Miscellaneous Myths: Loki

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This actually makes so much sense, especially the whole "trying to avoid a prophecy only to get caught in said prophecy" with Loki being some sort of mischievous but all in all guardian of the world. And am I the only one who can't even begin to imagine how long it must take for Red to research this, like, I could barely find where to read a proper translation of the Iliad and Red just digs through information eons ago and puts it all in a perfect timeline. And she connects everything up at the end. Wow.

👍︎︎ 26 👤︎︎ u/SandtheTomato 📅︎︎ Apr 09 2021 🗫︎ replies

What I find interesting is that there is actually a very similar figure to Loki in Christianity (although I think it is mostly from the book of Enoch, which is apparently a bunch of bullshit). An angel named Azazel was cast from heaven and chained to a rock for gifting mankind several things, from weapons like swords and spears, to cosmetics like jewellery, as well as fire itself. As punishment he was chained to a rock and had his eyes covered so that he couldn't look out at the world.

This reflects Loki gifting a spear to Baldur's brother which lead to his death, and being chained to a rock and blinded. Azazel gifted weapons to humanity, notably the spear, which was used to kill Jesus. Azazel is also often called 'the Scapegoat', which as seen in Red's video, Loki is often attributed as.

Azazel is also compared to Prometheus as he was also the one who gifted mankind weapons and fire.

The probably isn't a real connection between the three figures, but the similarity is interesting nonetheless.

👍︎︎ 17 👤︎︎ u/Jojohairytoe 📅︎︎ Apr 09 2021 🗫︎ replies

Talk about synergistic timing!

👍︎︎ 14 👤︎︎ u/RealAbd121 📅︎︎ Apr 09 2021 🗫︎ replies

So if Loki isn't documented until after Christianization, is it possible that Snorri added Loki, to represent the Christian influence on Norse culture? I can see some value in Snorri pointing out that his own culture was becoming entangled by Christian influences.

👍︎︎ 8 👤︎︎ u/thanojan 📅︎︎ Apr 09 2021 🗫︎ replies

The sacred text!

👍︎︎ 2 👤︎︎ u/Lea_Lovegood 📅︎︎ Apr 10 2021 🗫︎ replies
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Most of us first get exposed to mythology through illustrated kid's books. This gives us the false impression that mythology is like a book - written down and not particularly prone to change. But that's more like… what mythology fossilizes into over time. The actual living mythology looks very different from the carefully articulated skeletons that we put in the museums. Mythology is stories, and stories change with every telling. If you're passing stories down generationally through folklore and oral tradition, things change a lot. Especially the characters. And in mythology, the characters are gods. So the gods end up evolving alongside their society. Every time a myth of a god gets written down, it's like a photograph of that god in that single moment of their development, or like a single frame from an animation. That single frame might be very cool and interesting, but if we can find enough of those keyframes and put them in the right order, we can try and trace out what the full animation might've looked like and get a feel for how this god actually evolved over time. When we do a deep dive like this, I usually go as far back as I can to try and find the earliest stories so we can trace this evolution, and watch as the gods we're familiar with now start out as wildly unfamiliar figures before growing and changing with their societies to eventually become the figure we recognize today. Which brings us to our first problem. What do we recognize as Loki these days? Sources are very contradictory. He shows up in a lot of modern stories - frequently a shapeshifter or illusionist, and usually an antagonist, but that's about the only semi-consistent quality he gets. Sometimes he's a jotunn like his father, sometimes he's a rebellious kid cuz odin is his father, sometimes he's working with odin, sometimes he's a tragic, gothic prince of darkness, sometimes he's a sniveling coward, sometimes he's a full-on good guy with a tricksy streak, sometimes he's just a sassy lil kid, sometimes he's literally satan, and sometimes he's confidently described as a fire deity even though he probably isn't, my bad So while previous deep-dives have had an easy starting point, cuz we have a clear image of where the deity in question ends up, Loki's wildly inconsistent modern portrayal complicates the issue. We can still look back to where he started, but we don't have a clear image of what he's gonna become. Which is just like him, honestly. He could stand to be a little more considerate about these things. But looking back to where he stared isn't as easy as I made it sound. The other main complication here come to us courtesy of Christianity, and the stubborn refusal of the norse to actually use their existing writing system to write their mythology down before the monks showed up. Our pre-christian sources are sparse to nonexistent, and christianity has this frustrating habit of retconning other people's religions out of existence. So inconsiderate! Won't someone think of the scholars?! So instead of diving into the earliest mythology, because we don't have any from that far back, uh... nobody tell Blue, but we're gonna try starting with the real history about as far back as we can go - the end of the ice age, when the glacial ice pack finally receded from Scandinavia and the region entered the Nordic Stone Age. This period of history is pretty solidly in the "fog of ages" zone, where basically all we know about the people who lived there is how they preferred to knap their flint. A series of stone-age societies cycled in and out of this region from 12,000 BCE until around 2800 BCE, when the indo-european Battle-Axe Culture broke onto the scene and hung out with the coastal Pitted Ware Culture for a thousand years or so until 1700 BCE, when the societies fused together and entered the Nordic Bronze Age. This new culture practiced agriculture and domesticated animals, maintained trade with our friends over in Mycenaean Greece, had a ton of wealth by the standards of the era, and were really into boats. Between all the rock carvings of ships and their boat-shaped burial monuments, we can already see how these proto-norsemen were on track to becoming the seafaring vikings we know and love. Now they didn't seem to have a writing system at this point, so all the theories about their mythology are pretty fragmentary and not very well-sourced. But we know from their art that they cared about three things: animals, boats, and the sun. They seem to have made a mythological connection between the movement of the sun and the movement of animals, and specifically they decided the sun was being pulled by a horse, like a chariot. This is noteworthy because it actually survived into Norse mythology in the characters of Skinfaxi and Hrimfaxi, the horses that pull the chariots of the sun and moon. While plenty of mythologies conflate the sun and moon with chariots, the person in the chariot usually gets more press than the animal pulling it. Anyway, around 500 BCE there was a bit of a technological leap, and Scandinavia entered the iron age, working with bog iron they extracted from peat. A little bit of local climate change seems to have nudged the norsemen a little ways south, which probably helped take them to the next big jump just around 0 CE - when the romans arrived. The transition from the pre-roman iron age to the roman iron age was pretty painless, since for the scandinavians it basically just meant another trade route. The romans gave them coins, vessels, weapons, all that good stuff. But the Romans got something very valuable for us - they actually wrote some stuff down. In roughly 98 CE, General Tacitus wrote the Germania, an ethnography of the germanic peoples they made trade with, and noted that they seemed to worship a pantheon of gods led by Mercury, honored with animal and human sacrifices on a specific day of the week. He also mentioned worship of Mars, Hercules, and Isis. Now, that classic roman syncretism is in full swing here, but it doesn't take a comparative mythology scholar to work out that this "mercury" is the tricksy traveler Odin, worshipped on Odin's day, aka Wednesday, and that Mars and Hercules are most likely Tyr and Thor, Tyr mapped to Mars because they're both war gods and Thor to Hercules probably because they're both giant-slayers. Unfortunately Isis could theoretically be any of the norse goddesses, but Frigg or Freya is probably the best bet. Regardless, this is the first solid written confirmation of the Norse pantheon we know and love. It's fragmentary and filtered through a highly biased lens, but it gives us something to work with. Unfortunately, it doesn't give us Loki. And what exactly that means is a little unclear. He could have been a relatively minor figure in the pantheon, not worth Tacitus's time to mention - and since he only listed the hugely important major players with days of the week named after them, that's not too far-fetched. But it's also possible that Loki didn't exist yet. And that's weird. This is also around when the norse writing system first appears - Futhark runes first get used around 150 CE, theoretically derived from an Old Italic script, though it's not 100% clear how they got from the Italian peninsula all the way up to Scandinavia. Mythologically, Odin receives the forbidden knowledge of magic runes by ritualistically sacrificing himself to himself on Yggdrasil the world tree and getting a sweet powerup, which I guess is as good an explanation as any. (Step up your game, duolingo) Anyway that trade situation continues til around 400 CE when the Roman empire accidentally plugs a powerbar into itself and collapses into the ocean, and the Scandinavians basically don't notice. But they sure notice what happens next, as the 700s CE is when the monks show up. Christian missionaries roll up to scandinavia, and the norse hate it so much that apparently it kicks off the viking age in retaliation, officially beginning in 793 when vikings ransack and burn Lindisfarne Abbey, taking all their shinies, killing and enslaving the monks and firmly establishing their reputation as terrifying for the next thousand years. The viking age continued for around three centuries, but while the vikings were out viking, the christianization of Scandinavia continued behind them, and by 1100 the area was almost fully christianized. And THEN, after ALL THAT, we finally get the first reference to Loki. Around 1200, Icelandic politician and historian Snorri Sturluson wrote the Prose Edda, the first written compilation of norse mythology, apparently in service of his main political goal at the time, which was getting Iceland to unify with Norway under the rule of king Hakon the Fourth. He didn't succeed and Hakon had him assassinated a couple decades later, but that doesn't matter right now, because this motivation completely reframes his role in compiling the Prose Edda. Iceland and Norway were fully christianized at this point, but by consolidating their shared "pagan" history and mythology, Snorri could give them a single cultural identity to promote their unification under Hakon. Sure, we're Iceland and you're Norway, but we're all Norsemen, right? Bring it in! So that's why the Prose Edda begins with a prologue describing the Christian story of Genesis, and reframes the Norse gods as trojan heroes who fled the fall of Troy, settled in Scandinavia and were accepted as divine kings thanks to their superior technology. That's right - Snorri Sturluson Ancient Aliens'd himself. Anyway, with that bit of christianity-approved justification out of the way, Snorri dives into what we hope is some proper pre-Christian mythology. And this is where we get our first look at Loki. Now Loki pops up all over the place in the Prose edda. He's referred to with the epithet "backbiter" and described as fickle-minded, the inventor of lies, and beautiful but "evil in disposition". So, basically classic Femme Fatale. He's summed up in one sentence as regularly causing problems for the Aesir, but just as regularly helping them out with his clever tricks and schemes. Basically the token chaotic neutral teammate who causes problems for shits and giggles but then cleans up his mess when he has to. He has three children with a giantess in Jotunheim, and he keeps them a secret from the Aesir - but they find out eventually, and unfortunately for Loki, there's a prophecy going on. These children are destined to cause some serious problems for the Aesir when Ragnarok rolls around, so Odin deals with them. Loki's daughter, Hel, is cast into Nifelheim, and while she becomes the super powerful queen of the dead, it's pretty clear she can't really leave. His son, Jormungandr, is cast into the ocean - where he grows to enormous size. And his other son, the Fenris-Wolf, is too powerful for the Aesir to take head-on, so instead they take him in to keep an eye on him, and he lives alongside them in Asgard for a while, even becoming close friends with Tyr. But as he grows bigger and stronger, the Aesir get more and more worried, and eventually come up with a scheme - framing it as a game, they tie up Fenris with stronger and stronger chains, though they can't find anything that holds him for long. Eventually, they commission the dwarves for a chain made of impossible things and ask Fenris if they can try it on him - but he's starting to get understandably suspicious, so he agrees on the condition that one of them puts their hand in his jaws. If they betray him, they lose the hand. The Aesir are obviously reluctant, but Tyr agrees - and when Fenris can't break the chain and realizes the Aesir betrayed him, he bites off Tyr's hand. No word on how Loki felt about all this, but we can assume Not Great. There's another story where a disguised giant offers to build the Aesir a fortress, but as payment he wants the sun, the moon, and the goddess Freya. The aesir agree cuz they want that fortress, but they also really don't wanna pay for it, so they force Loki to sabotage the construction so the giant won't finish in time. Loki does this by turning into a mare and quote-unquote "distracting" the giant's horse, and when the giant realizes what's happening he returns to his true, giant form to file a formal complaint with his battleaxe - at which point Thor kills him. Loki later gives birth to a healthy eight-legged foal, and that's how Odin got his faithful steed Sleipnir. And before we all judge Loki, let's consider who's more irresponsible - the guy who gives birth to a horse, or the guy who rides his nephew into battle? I'm just saying, I know which one I wouldn't trust as a babysitter. And as one more core worldbuilding myth, Snorri recounts the events triggering Ragnarok, where Loki arranges for Baldr's death by mistletoe and flees from the angry Aesir, living in hiding and incidentally inventing the fishing net in his spare time. When the Aesir find him he burns the net and turns into a salmon, hiding in a nearby waterfall, but one of the aesir deduces his fishing-net invention from the ash pattern and recreates it, using the net to then capture him. Foiled by his own cleverness one final time, Loki is imprisoned under the earth and tortured by a snake, causing earthquakes whenever he wiggles. Now there's a bunch of other stories about Loki - his wager with the sons of Ivaldi, his adventure with Thor dealing with Utgard-Loke, and an interesting prequel to the Volsunga saga where he steals gold from a dwarf to repay a debt, including a cursed magic ring, and passes the ring off to the guy who forced him to pay the debt in the first place, kicking off a chain of murder and misfortune for the jerk in question and leaving Loki consequence-free for a change. But basically all the stories follow a very specific format - the Aesir make Loki fix a problem, whether or not he caused it, and Loki makes it work through a combination of cunning trickery, slapstick comedy and the occasional pregnancy. But you also might notice that the Aesir don't really come across as all that good here. They break their oaths, cheat their way out of debts, torment and abuse Loki even on the rare occasion where the problem wasn't his fault. They're not painted as particularly divine. Snorri's retelling portrays the gods as flawed, fallible, and extremely human, which makes sense if he's trying to forge a historical cultural identity without getting too deep into the currently-taboo religion that cultural identity is made from. And there's something kinda… Christian about the way Loki's represented in this era - and not in the way you might expect from his modern portrayal. Beyond the Prose edda, this era also has the Poetic edda, a compilation of poems collected around the same time. The Poetic Edda contains the Lokasenna, the Flyting of Loki, an additional bit of detail from the precursor to Ragnarok where Loki calls out the Aesir on their failings and sins, and how they all like to heap blame on him when really they're just as bad as he is. At the end of that poem, they bind and imprison him, but they never really prove him wrong. Now the portrayal of Loki in the Eddas kinda resonates with the biblical concept of the scapegoat. While nowadays that term means someone who's blamed for everything, in the Old Testament the "scapegoat" is part of a cleansing ritual. Two goats are taken, one is sacrificed, and the other is driven into the wilderness - that one's the scapegoat, and it carries the sins of the people away with it, leaving them ritually purified of their failings at the cost of two goats. Christianity later added some Jesus-flavoring to the scapegoat concept, with the idea that Jesus himself is kind of a scapegoat for the sins of all of humanity - but unlike the goat, he does it on purpose as a willing agent, which is deliberately separating him from the scapegoat concept. But this portrayal of Loki kind of lines up with that. The Aesir do a lot of bad stuff, but then they turn around and blame Loki for it, or they make him fix it for them, absolving themselves of the consequences. Written two hundred years post-christianization, it wouldn't be too surprising if this biblical concept worked its way into Snorri's framing of this character, giving Loki a biblical context he wouldn't have originally had. And between his role as scapegoat and his torture and imprisonment for speaking a truth the Aesir didn't want to hear, it also has the wildly unexpected consequence of… kind of making this version of Loki…… a Jesus figure. … …Didn't see that one coming. So since these eddas already show some major structural hallmarks of christianization, both the obvious with the genesis stuff and the inobvious with the thematic parallels, we're once again stuck in a position where the only information we have about Loki is very… untrustworthy. Go figure. Now this isn't quite all we have from this era. Along with all the pillaging and burning, the Viking Age saw the creation of a lot of runestones - carved rocks that don't tend to feature written mythology but frequently show images of some familiar stories. Mjolnir was a very common symbol on runestones, and we have a handful of runestones from between the 700s and the 1000s that show a few familiar sights - Odin capturing a salmon, a bound figure under a snake, a face with scarred lips, etcetera. While these still post-date the monks' arrival, they do show a figure whose role lines up with Loki's description in the Eddas, and they were carved at least a couple hundred years before Snorri got his hands on them. Although, fun fact, one of those theoretical Loki images shows a bound figure with horns - and was carved on a cross. Once again, the christianity's baked in. Still, while our knowledge is fragmentary and incomplete, this at least corroborates some of Snorri's stories. Now there's some other fun stuff about Loki's character that we can glean from these eddas. The Poetic Edda mentions very briefly that at one point, Loki finds a half-burned heart of some unnamed evil woman, eats it, and becomes pregnant, later giving birth to the vaguely-described "evils that plague man". This story is never brought up anywhere else and we have no idea whose heart it was or what evils it created, but this tiny four-line anecdote puts Loki in the role of the folkloric mother of monsters, a not-uncommon motif ascribing all the evils of the world to some unlucky usually lady who initially gave birth to them or set them free - Gaia, Pandora, Echidna, Tiamat, Lilith, it's a theme that shows up sporadically all over the place. And speaking of themes, Loki has one more unexpected role. There's a very common Indo-European narrative of a prophecy (guitar sting) where someone, usually a king, learns a prophecy of their future doom at the hands of a child, usually a direct descendant or other close relative. The doom-ee responds poorly and imprisons the child - or their parent, if the child isn't born yet - which inadvertently causes the child to later play out the exact role the prophecy foretold. It happens with Oedipus, it happens with Balor and Lugh, it happens with Perseus, it even happens with Krishna - and it happens with Odin, Loki, and Loki's kids. Since we tend to think of Loki as the bad guy, or at least the one to blame when things go wrong, it's easy to miss this - but Odin slots perfectly into the role of antagonist in that quintessential proto-indo-european prophecy structure. He hears the prophecy of ragnarok, and in trying to forestall it, he inadvertently gives Loki's children the exact powers and motives they need to fulfill that prophecy. Hel had no power over the dead until she was exiled to their realm, and when Loki marches in Ragnarok, he brings her army of the dead with him. Jormungandr wasn't the world-serpent until he was cast into the ocean, making him large enough to eventually kill Thor. And Fenris-Wolf was perfectly happy to live among the Aesir in peace with his best buddy Tyr until they betrayed him, and when he breaks those unbreakable chains, he kills Odin himself. And where does Loki fit in all this? Well, he's in good company with characters like Danae, Devaki and Eithne, the unfortunate mothers to the prophecy children who are imprisoned, tormented, and otherwise live quite unhappy lives until their children reappear to fulfill the prophecy and kill their tormenter. Which… lines up uncomfortably well with the start of Ragnarok. The only thing making Loki unsympathetic in this situation is the fact that his prophecy children cause the literal apocalypse - but, and hear me out on this one, Snorri might not have intended to frame Ragnarok as a bad thing. Loki may be a back-biter and a trickster, but at this point in his development, he's in a surprisingly sympathetic role. He helps out more than he hurts, with the noteworthy exception of the death of Baldr and the onset of Ragnarok - but even that story is kinda suspicious. There are plenty of theories about it, but one of them suggests that Baldr's death is actually a ploy by Odin. Odin received a lot of human sacrifices, at least in the mythology, and he's sort of died a few times, sacrificing himself to himself for power and knowledge. And Baldr's death by mistletoe has some suspicious mythological resonances with other stories of sacrifices to Odin - there's a story about a legendary king, Vikar, whose ships are becalmed because Odin requires a blood sacrifice, and Vikar's name is drawn every time they draw lots. Vikar doesn't wanna die, so his counselor assures him that they won't really kill him - they'll do the setup of the sacrifice, but instead of actually stabbing him, they'll use a harmless tree branch and, like, a really soft noose. But when they do, the branch suddenly turns into a spear and the king is really killed - trying to fool Odin with a fake, harmless sacrifice isn't very wise. So when Baldr is killed by a weapon made from a harmless little mistletoe branch, it lines up alarmingly well with this story of a tricksy sacrifice to Odin. And we gotta remember, Baldr doesn't stay dead. He comes back after Ragnarok. And Odin knows this because he knows the prophecies of Ragnarok. It's also noted in the text that nobody knows what Odin whispered in the dead Baldr's ear, but why would he whisper in a dead guy's ear at all? Baldr is killed in a way that closely resembles a sacrifice to Odin, and comes back even better than before - something Odin famously did to himself to gain knowledge and power. And with all that for context, Loki's role in the death starts looking a lot weirder. And for that matter, Loki's relationship with Odin is a subject of academic debate. The poetic edda describes them as blood-brothers, but some scholars suggest that Loki might actually be an aspect or a reflex of Odin, some offshoot deity playing a specific and unknown role. They are both tricksters and masters of disguise, and if I had to pick a norse god to map to Mercury or Hermes, the trickster god and thief, I'd probably pick Loki instead of Odin. Baldr's death smells of lost mythological context and ritual implications. There's more going on here than we know - and that means Loki's role in the death is similarly mysterious. Anyway this is unfortunately in the category of "we'll probably never really know what was up with that", but it's still valuable information just to know this story probably shouldn't be taken one hundred percent at face value. Loki does a lot of dumb stuff, but casual god-murder is a bit outside his regular wheelhouse. And here's another weird angle - because of Snorri's authorial biases, his very conspicuous framing of the Norse gods in the strict past tense and his extremely careful separation of these pagan myths from the christian faith they'd adopted, Loki killing Baldr and triggering the twilight of the old gods might've been originally presented by Snorri as kind of… a good thing. There's this biblical concept of cleansing armageddon - that the world gets too messed up and sinful that your only option is to burn the bad stuff to the ground and start over. And while Ragnarok is almost certainly a pre-christian concept, Ragnarok as a huge deal and the central focus of the narrative might've been a christian modification. The idea that the old gods were messed up and had to die so a shiny new world could take over - with a shiny new christian god, in some translations - would've been very appealing for someone trying to appeal to a shared cultural history without superseding their shared religious identity. So what might've been a footnote or a highly contextualized ritual in the original folkloric space could've ballooned into being loki's defining act - killing baldr and kicking off a cleansing apocalypse to make way for the new world. And again, as we've discussed, Odin has a lot of themes about dying and then being reborn even better. And it's another facet of Loki's character that's not nice, but from Snorri's perspective was probably still fundamentally good. All in all, the Eddas don't exactly paint a flattering portrait of Loki, but he still comes across as unconditionally necessary. He solves problems nobody else can handle, he gives the gods a scapegoat so they can maintain their own perceived flawlessness and never introspect enough to meaningfully improve, and he ends their imperfect world to make way for the new one. All good things from the perspective of someone living in that new world. So that's… potentially Snorri's angle, though it's impossible to know for sure. But he's not the only christian historian with an opinion on Loki - and amusingly, while the Eddas seem to frame him as a necessary nuisance, some of its later translators apparently missed the mark on that one, and interpreted Loki's role as trickster, deceiver, and father of lies as making him a Satan parallel - something Snorri himself never did. For instance, back in 1880, hilariously-named Norwegian philologist Sophus Bugge theorized that all the stories in the Eddas were actually Christian with basically no pre-existing mythological basis, and Loki was just literally satan. And while that theory was soundly rejected by basically everyone, Loki As Satan wasn't so easily scrapped. It's not the most baseless analog - he's the token malevolent divinity, the god who betrays the other gods. He's not that hard to parallel with a fallen angel or a Judas figure. Except these interpretations hinge on his role in the death of Baldr as the ultimate, unforgivable betrayal, and completely ignore every other story about him. Some of these translations add prologues that refer to Loki as a "vile serpent", which is totally made-up - his only major epithets in the Edda are "backbiter" and "Laufey's son", and he's never a snake. He and snakes don't really get along. If Snorri wanted to make Loki a Satan figure, he would've made him a Satan figure. But because Snorri put focus on Ragnarok for his own reasons, later analysts also focused on Ragnarok, and without the context Snorri had of "cleansing the old world to make way for the one we live in now", it looks like a very bad thing, a tragedy. And it looks like it's all Loki's fault. With this perspective shift tipping Loki from "necessary nuisance" into "fully antagonistic", Loki's complex and surprisingly sympathetic framing from the Eddas gives way to a much more basic one - cartoon lucifer. He's still a liar and a trickster, but his role as problem-solver withers away, and gets replaced with some more satanic implications of being a manipulator and evil tempter. Which is hilarious, because mythological Loki literally can't manipulate his way out of a box. But with Loki placed in explicit opposition to the Aesir, another possibility opens up - because the Aesir still don't come across as all that heroic. Violent, oathbreaking, perpetually drunk, it doesn't take much work to frame them as structurally problematic - especially if you add the subtextual implication that, on top of all their other flaws, they'd have to be idiots to keep someone like Loki around. But if the Aesir are bad, then Loki, their opposition, has the opportunity to be good. Loki makes an easy rebel against the system, since he's basically just an agent of chaos. And with a little tweaking, he's not hard to rework into a misunderstood rebel antihero. Even post-satanization, Loki still kinda walks the line between sympathetic and unsympathetic. Loki's character is fundamentally transgressive. He breaks rules and crosses boundaries. He's pretty much the only Norse god who changes gender on the regular, and even his heritage crosses a line - a Jotunn father and an Aesir mother, mixed parentage no-one else seems to share. He travels a lot, accompanying Thor on the occasional journey but more often borrowing Freya's feather cloak to travel to Jotunheim or the realm of the dwarves. He doesn't fit easily into any one realm, and his divine domain is also a bit… uncertain. That's a weird thing to overlook, right? He's a god - but why was he worshipped? Tyr and Odin, gods of war, were prayed and sacrificed to for victory in battle; Freya and Njord, gods of fertility, were sacrificed to for peace and a good year; Thor, god of storms and rain, was sacrificed to in times of famine or disease. But I can't find any big sacrifices to Loki, or any agreement on what, exactly, he was the god of. Lies and trickery were his personality, not his deific domain - Thor wasn't the god of getting drunk and hitting stuff. The gods were worshipped because they played a role in the day-to-day lives of the norse. What was Loki's? Unfortunately, it's really hard to tell. If he wasn't getting festivals or big dramatic blood sacrifices, it wasn't really gonna be written down. Maybe he was worshipped in smaller, more domestic ways, maybe he was one of those antagonistic gods that people would pray against - but there's almost nothing to go on here. This is around the time where, with no other clues to go on, I'd wanna dive into the etymology of his name to find what he originally meant on the most basic level or to see if he was based on an older god - but, unfortunately, that information doesn't really exist either. Loki's name is short and simple and the etymology is a subject of furious debate. Due to its similarity to the old norse word logi, meaning fire, some people have suggested that he was a fire god - and while he might have been some sort of hearth spirit, more on that later, he doesn't seem to have been a fire god. The words are similar, but not cognate. Plus, in the myth of Utgard-Loki, he loses an eating contest to Logi, the personification of fire. That wouldn't make any sense if they were supposed to be the same being. So it's not logi - what else could it be? Well, there's a few possibilities. It might be derived from the proto-germanic root luk-, a root used for words related to loops, like knots, hooks and locks. It also sees use in words for spiders and spider-related things - in Swedish and Faroese, the word for "cobweb" is literally "Loki's net". So… is Loki a spider? While possible, and delightfully creepy, that particular spin doesn't really have much evidence in the folklore. But Loki doesn't need to be a spider to have something to do with knots or nets. Loki's name could mean something a lot more basic, like "entangler", which would fit pretty well with his mythical role of inventing the fishing net, which was then used to trap him - he entangles other people and himself in equal measure. This also makes sense if "Loki" is more like a title than a name. Utgard-Loki, the illusionist giant faced by Loki and Thor, is very confusing on paper. He has no apparent relation to Loki, and they don't seem to know each other, but his name, Utgard-Loki, means "Loki of the Outyards". If Loki itself means "entangling one", then the distinction makes more sense - Utgard-Loki entangles them in illusions and impossible tasks, "the entangler of the outyards". If it's a catch-all term for tricksters and ensnarers, it would help explain why these otherwise unrelated characters share such a unique name. Loki's name has also survived in some folk-phrases in Scandinavia - like mirages and other heat-based distortions are sometimes described as "Loki sowing his oats or herding his goats". If the term has retained elements of trickery or illusion, it makes sense to use it in that context. But the folk customs can tell us more about him than just his name. Loki might not have gotten big feasts or dramatic society-wide sacrifice days, but elements of his nature seem to have lingered in the day-to-day folk customs, painting a rather more domestic picture. Some phrases describe Loki as responsible for heat-hazes, sudden flares of a fire, cobwebs, and other kinds of ephemera often attributed to small nature spirits called vaettir. Some other surviving Scandinavian traditions involve tossing a child's baby teeth into the hearth fire and asking Loki to watch over the kid. Particularly interesting, a lot of phrases and traditions about hearthfires and tending to them seem to work in a Loki reference. Now, this doesn't automatically mean that the Loki associated with the hearth has any relation to the god Loki - as we've already discussed with Utgard-Loki, he wasn't the only Loki running around - but there's some pretty compelling evidence compiled in this essay <Loki, the Vätte, and the Ash Lad: A Study Combining Old Scandinavian and Late Material> that suggests they're actually probably the same figure, and further that the hearth-spirit Loki might've been adapted later into medieval Norwegian folklore as an unlikely hero called the Ash-Lad, a clever but lazy dude who tends the hearth all day until forced into a heroic adventure. If this is true, it suggests that Loki's divine role was as a mischievous but ultimately benevolent protector of the home and family - which, honestly, does resonate pretty plausibly with how many kids he canonically has. But unfortunately, like everything else about loki, this is pretty confusing and hard to pin down. The connection is possible, but it's kind of impossible to conclusively prove. So where does that leave us? Loki has so many stories, but every single one of them has either a biased narrator, an incomplete narrative, or both. It's nearly impossible to find consistent threads, we don't know when he first showed up or what role he played in the society, we can't connect him to any precursor deities, we can barely even get a read on his personality. Loki is a mass of contradictions. And you know what? That's okay. This is one of many ways that gods can develop - they end up splintering over time. Usually the only gods with one perfectly consistent linear narrative are the ones who had that purposefully constructed by someone with an agenda. But in a living mythology a god is worshipped day to day. They play a role in a human life. And people's lives change, and so their needs change. The role a god plays can change a lot over time as the society changes. Without an artificially constructed coherent canon for Loki, we can't really get a good look at a linear narrative for him - but the fact that gods have linear narratives at all is usually an artificial addition from other people. Loki is extremely confusing… and that's okay. Nobody ever said he had to be simple. And the sad truth is that, sometimes, information gets lost, and once it's gone, we can never get the full picture. Trying to fill in the gaps with information that isn't there is a recipe for conspiracy theories. And to be honest, I don't think there's anything more quintessentially Loki than getting centuries worth of scholars at each other's throats trying to figure out his one true nature. Can't a guy shapeshift in peace? Uh, real quick, before we go, we've got a brand new pin for you guys - and this one isn't a Greek god! You can snag this snazzy new Loki pin from our Crowdmade shop for a limited time only, and it comes with this nifty sticker set! And I'm gonna say this in absolute seriousness: I think this is the greatest thing I've ever created. Okay thanks bye! [I'm Looking Through You]
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Channel: Overly Sarcastic Productions
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Keywords: Funny, Summary, OSP, Overly Sarcastic Productions, Analysis, Literary Analysis, Myths, Legends, Classics, Literature, Stories, Storytelling, History, Mythology, Loki, Norse Mythology, Odin, Thor, Edda, Snorri Sturluson, Snorre, Ragnarok
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Length: 27min 10sec (1630 seconds)
Published: Fri Apr 09 2021
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