DefunctTV: The History of Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?

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👍︎︎ 58 👤︎︎ u/hippopotamus1997 📅︎︎ Apr 07 2021 đź—«︎ replies

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👍︎︎ 30 👤︎︎ u/38LeaguesUnderTheSea 📅︎︎ Apr 07 2021 đź—«︎ replies

Wow - it's been a VERY long time since I played this game, but I remember it well.

I just looked it up on one of those retro-game online emulators. It was actually pretty fun.

In fact, what's MORE fun about it right now is that - much like this YouTube episode said was even a problem for them during their live broadcast - tons of the geographical information is different. There was no EU back then, so you have to remember all of the currencies. The Chinese still used their old spelling and so it's Peking as opposed to Beijing, just as an example. The Communist Bloc was still very active. Things like that.

So perhaps not for the same reason initially programmed, I actually found the clues kind of fun.

For those interested: https://www.retrogames.cz/play_1305-DOS.php?language=EN

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👍︎︎ 16 👤︎︎ u/b0n_ni3_c 📅︎︎ Apr 07 2021 đź—«︎ replies

I love the fact that I used to watch a game show when I was young where kids would dance to acapella music and then answer geography questions from a goofball host with an oversized magnifying glass, and then I grew up and Netflix was like, What if we said that goofball killed a guy?!

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From the island of DefunctTV! Good work, gumshoe.

👍︎︎ 8 👤︎︎ u/mybigfatreddit 📅︎︎ Apr 07 2021 đź—«︎ replies

The Chief was the absolute perfect pick.

👍︎︎ 6 👤︎︎ u/NewClayburn 📅︎︎ Apr 07 2021 đź—«︎ replies

There is a Carmen SanDiego Netflix show too. I absolutely recommend it, it’s fun, educational, quite silly.

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DefunctTV is made possible by the Defunctland Store. Go to defunctland.com/store and use the coupon code "DefunctTV" for 15% off your order. This program is also made possible by Viewers Like You! Thank you! In 1980, brothers Doug and Gary Carlson founded their own computer software company named Broderbund. Both programmers by trade, the Carlson brothers led Broderbund to develop many popular titles, including Choplifter, Gumball, Lode Runner, Karateka, and The Print Shop. By 1983, Broderbund supported a staff of over forty people and sold millions of dollars worth of software annually. Despite the stable business model, the Carlson brothers were nervous about one of their upcoming titles, a new geography-based game named Where in the World is Carmen SanDiego? Lacking the confidence for a standalone release, the brothers opted to release the game alongside a World Almanac. Despite the hesitation, "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?" was a smash hit, immediately becoming the company's most popular title. While computer enthusiasts were impressed by the game's 4-color graphics and innovative menu system, casual gamers were captivated by the globe-trotting, cat and mouse gameplay, and mix of trivia and humor. The game saw players pursuing the notorious thief Carmen Sandiego and her gang of crooks throughout various countries and landmarks. Although not explicitly designed as an educational game, parents and teachers saw its value as a teaching tool, and the software was purchased for computer labs throughout the US. By 1989, Carmen Sandiego was a budding franchise with the original game spawning four sequels, "Where in the USA is Carmen Sandiego?", "Where in Europe is Carmen Sandiego?", "Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego?" and "Where in North Dakota is Carmen Sandiego." The Carmen Sandiego franchise was soon a significant portion of Broderbund's 45 million dollars in annual sales. The company had created an iconic character, and it was not long until they looked into ways to expand the brand. Broderbund considered taking Carmen Sandiego from the computer screen to the television screen. One potential partner was Walt Disney Television. Producers from Disney had considered creating a Carmen Sandiego show for Disney Channel. This would not come to fruition, and Broderbund continued their search. Around this time, the company would receive a valuable piece of advice from a producer named Howard Blumenthal. Blumenthal had worked on shows for MTV and Nickelodeon, and when Broderbund asked him to consult on the development of a Carmen SanDiego series, he suggested an interesting strategy. Blumenthal did not believe that licensing the show was where the money was. Rather, the value of the television venture was the national promotion of the Carmen SanDiego software. Blumenthal recommended that Broderbund sell the television rights to Carmen SanDiego to a Public Broadcasting Service station, entrusting PBS to create a successful program and deliver it to their large audience. The price that Blumenthal advised Broderbund to sell the rights for? One dollar. By giving away the rights, the show was more likely to be produced by PBS. Blumenthal left Broderbund with the advice and went to work on other shows. It would take another few years, but Broderbund would take Blumenthal’s advice. Given the educational focus of PBS children’s shows, Broderbund would emphasize the geography of the Carmen SanDiego series. The importance of the subject matter was highlighted by the release of a National Geographic survey that found that one in four Americans could not locate the Pacific Ocean on a map. With a public need for geography education and a cheap, semi-recognizable property to base a show-off, two PBS stations, WQED Pittsburgh and WGBH Boston, agreed to co-produce a pilot for a Carmen SanDiego television series. Broderbund opted to allow PBS to use the Carmen SanDiego name and concept for free, one dollar less than Blumenthal had suggested. Broderbund would again reach out to Blumenthal for his help on the series, and Blumenthal would join the project as a producer. PBS ordered 65 episodes of the show with a total budget of around 3.5 million dollars. The Carmen SanDiego name, character, and subject matter would not be the only elements taken from the computer software. The game aspect would be adapted as well, with the PBS show utilizing a game show format with adolescent contestants. The show’s pilot episodes were shot at WQED’s studios in Pittsburgh. It was clear to the team that the show needed work. The geography aspect of the game was educational, but it lacked the energy necessary to draw kids in. Blumenthal knew that the children of the early 1990s responded to quick, colorful content like the shows found on MTV and Nickelodeon. After the lackluster pilot episodes, Blumenthal needed to inject more energy into the production, and in order to do this, he went straight to the source. Blumenthal personally interviewed over 900 kids to acquire a sense of what they would like to see in a show. The kids told him exactly what they wanted; adventure, silly characters, comedy, cool prizes, animation, and music. These elements were the exact energy the show needed. In order to craft these into a cohesive show, Blumenthal liked the idea of a 40s Noir parody, integrating the genre throughout his first script for the game show. The format would feature three young contestants who would be classified as rookie Detectives, assigned to hunt down Carmen Sandiego and her gang. They would report to the Chief, the head of ACME Crimenet, as well as the host, ACME’s Special Agent in Charge of Training New Recruits. With the new roles to fill, the crew began casting for the series, and the production was moved from Pittsburgh to New York. The show would find a new home at Chelsea Studios, where it would have plenty of room for a new elaborate, interconnected set that featured Crimenet headquarters, the Chief’s office, a city street, various international terminals, a giant floor map, and a studio audience of 200 kids. Greg Lee, a children’s game show veteran that had worked as a contestant coordinator on NIckelodeon’s Double Dare and a co-host on Total Panic, was cast as the show’s host. For the role of Chief, Blumenthal fought to cast film and theater actress Lynne Thigpen, as he had imagined her for the role when he conceived it. However, Thigpen repeatedly turned down the role due to the show’s intense production schedule, with the production planning on shooting the show’s 65 episodes between March and May. Blumenthal auditioned hundreds of actors for the role of Chief, but it was clear to both him and Greg Lee that Thigpen was the best person for the job. The two met with the actress over brunch and were able to convince her that she was perfect for the part. Thigpen agreed to play Chief in the game show. The show was coming together quickly, but Blumenthal was still needing to integrate music into the show. He researched different musical types, specifically attempting to integrate rap music into the show. It was during this investigation that Blumenthal would watch a laserdisc of "Spike Lee & Co. Do It Acapella” with his family. The PBS documentary, directed by Spike Lee, was focused on Acappella music and it featured a small band of singers named Rockapella singing an original song "Zombie Jamboree". Rockapella: "One female zombie, she wouldn't behave. See how she's dancing out of the grave!" Blumenthal's wife suggested that he should use Rockapella’s music for the Carmen Sandiego idea, and he took her suggestion. Rockapella's music would become an integral part of the show’s energy. The singers, Sean Altman, Scott Leonard, Elliott Kerman, and Barry Carl, also pulled double duty as a supporting cast to Greg in many sketches. "The only active volcano on mainland Europe today, 2000 years ago, it's not Pompeii." Greg: "Now that's a clue ladies and gentlemen! Rockapella!" PBS assigned a portion of the show's budget for animated segments, so Blumenthal decided to represent Carmen and her crew of criminals as 2D animations created on a Macintosh computer. This approach was groundbreaking for the time and logistically challenging since there was no easy way to digitize the drawings. The workaround was sending the drawings through a fax machine and then converting them for use on the computer. The often crude drawings of Carmen and her gang, referred to as VILE, were weird, wacky, and a large source of the show’s humor. Criminal Mastermind Carmen Sandiego retained her appearance from the computer game with her trademark trench coat and red fedora. Many original criminals were created for the show, including The Contessa, Patty Larceny, RoboCrook, Top Grunge, Vic the Slick, Eartha Brute, and the Double Trouble twins. Each episode would feature a different crook, and the ACME Crimenet recruits pursued Carmen Sandiego in the finale of each show. The digitally animated scenes also served to retain the feel of the computer games. The final piece of the casting puzzle was the contestants. For every episode, three gumshoes joined ACME Crimenet as new recruits. Blumenthal and the producers sought out kids between the ages of 9 and 14 who could handle the pressures of a television game show. They also made sure that the children had a strong knowledge of geography, having them take a written exam before being selected. Every episode began with the Chief shouting over the rowdy child audience… This cued what would become the show's iconic theme song. The Chief then introduced the three contestants and the title of the episode's case, usually a pun on a common phrase. Once in the ACME offices, Greg entered, and after a very brief introduction, began the game. The Chief communicated with contestants primarily via a television that Greg would tune. Cases for each episode involved different members of Carmen's gang stealing important cultural works and landmarks. In the first season, this included the Mona Lisa, The Great Wall of China, the leaning tower of Pisa, and even Abraham Lincoln's nose from Mt. Rushmore. The Chief showed footage that revealed the crook's history and the item that was stolen, before ordering the Gumshoes to recover the stolen item, arrest the criminal and find Carmen Sandiego. Chief: "Here's your mission. Put Patty in the patty wagon! Free the Declaration of Independence and then capture Carmen Sandiego! Greg!" Greg then explained the rules of the round, and the Chief returned briefly to provide a clue. Chief: "Crispus Attucks was killed there in an infamous massacre, a Black man who was the first victim of the Revolutionary War, now this could be a tough search! Especially along the small winding streets of Freedom Trail, but gumshoes, I know you can do it! Greg!" Greg: "Thanks Chief, alright gumshoes, name the city!" The three contestants were asked to answer a multiple-choice, map-based question and were awarded or deducted points based on their answers. Points on the show were referred to as Crime Bucks. The questions in the first round were sandwiched in between player bios... Greg: "Now why do you like fishing?" Kid: "I like to eat them." Greg: "You eat the fish! Good!" short sketches... Greg: "Oh my, that was great! You're good!" "Thank you! You should see my Hamlet!" Greg: "I'd love to!" songs... Granny Rapper: "So hop a plane to these islands off the Scotland coast! Tell him Nana Rap sent you! That's no joke! You've got the nana! Na- Na- Nana!" and guest agents... "I don't have much time so listen carefully. Brush up on your German!" Most of these segments led into the next question. Halfway through the match, a frustrated Chief would call Greg into her office, upset that he and the recruits had yet to capture the Crook or Sandiego. To motivate the detectives, she offered a free trip to anywhere in the contiguous United States, which was the show’s grand prize. Chief: "Find Carmen, and I will send you anywhere in the whole country!" Greg: "Chief..." Chief: "Why not? Oh, anywhere in the lower 48 states! Hey! Still a heck of a deal!" Once back at the ACME office, Greg played a recording of a tapped phone call between Carmen and the Crook of the day. The call would contain clues to the Crook's next destination, and the trio of detectives would determine where to travel to next. Carmen: "Head to a South American country with two capital cities. Take the towers to the legal capital." Double Trouble: "Good thinking, Carmen. ACME won't figure us for anything legal." The final question of the first round displayed a map with three locations. Before revealing the question, the contestants could wager between 0 and 50 Crime Bucks that they could answer the question correctly when asked. Greg: "So take a look at this map and think about it!" Rockapella: "How much you gonna risk? Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Ooooh." At the end of the round, the lowest-scoring gumshoe was eliminated from the competition, but they were not sent home empty-handed. The eliminated contestant was awarded an ACME travel kit including a World Atlass, a year subscription to National Geographic World magazine, an Official Carmen Sandiego watch, and other Carmen swag. The show's second round began with the Chief debriefing the remaining detectives on a specific location that the Crook was traveling to. She presented historical, geographical, and cultural information about the destination as a slide presentation. Greg and the recruits arrived at the terminal of the location, and a "memory" style game featuring a large board was played. Contestants alternated revealing portions of the board in pursuit of "The Loot," "The Warrant," and "The Crook," the first to find all three put the Crook in jail and advanced to the next and final round. A runner-up prize was awarded to the loser of the second round, which included the ACME Travel Kit along with the addition of a pocket translator and a world-band radio. Before starting the final round, the winning detective would write down their grand prize destination city for Greg. The captured crooks called the new agent to inform them of Carmen's location, narrowed down to either the United States, South America, Europe, Africa, or Asia. Crook: "Carmen double crossed me so I'm going to get even. Find her in Asia!" Greg then took the contestant to a humongous map of the location, and the Chief rattled off a list of places Carmen may have traveled. The contestant had 45 seconds to race around the map, placing light-up markers on the correct locations as Greg rattled off three clues followed by the location name. If the kids set the marker wrong, they got a second chance before moving on. If a contestant could place seven markers in the correct position before time was up, they caught Carmen and won the grand prize. The prize location chosen by the contestants was only revealed when they won the game, and kids who didn't capture Carmen parted with a CD player and CDs from around the world, including the acapella soundtrack to the show. Win or lose, every episode ended with Greg and the contestant pointing to the camera and yelling the show's signature sign off "Do it, Rockapella!" triggering the band to perform Carmen's title theme. Rockapella: "Well, she sneaks around the world from Kiev to Carolina. Tell me Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?" Production of the first season moved at a pace as frantic as the show itself. The entire 65 episode season would be shot in six weeks, taping three to four episodes every workday. Being a PBS show, "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?" aired without commercial interruptions, resulting in 27-minute episodes. For the first season, the cast and crew performed the episodes as if they were live. The exception was the Chief, whose interactions were limited to clue giving and skits with Greg. Lynne Thigpen pre-recorded the Chief segments for each episode, and the videos were intercut and shown on monitors to the contestants throughout the show. The game itself evolved over the first season, changing point values and dropping the three clues for each location in the final game. Rockapella frequently had to create impromptu songs and parodies mere minutes before the taping of segments. Rockapella: "She's got a thrill that's long and true. Just look at all that mad doggy do. Pretty Patty." Viewers could hear the group's distinctive voice throughout the show, including in the narration for Round 2’s memory board. The season wrapped on schedule in May of 1991, and PBS was pleased with the product. "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?" premiered on the afternoon of September 30th, 1991, on PBS stations throughout the United States. That same night, PBS broadcast back-to-back episodes of the new show in its primetime slot. After this, the showed aired Monday through Friday in the after-school block. Children across the country became instant fans of the show. The focus on high-energy fun paid off, and young viewers kept coming back for more. The show also drew a diverse audience, and the show itself was focused on diversity, both in its contestants and in its geography. Executive Producer Kate Taylor explained, "We did not want to have a show that was culturally insensitive, that focused too much on the Western world. We didn't want a show that too narrowly defined what geography really is." The show was renewed for a second 65 episode season, moving production to the Kaufman Astoria Studios in Queens, the home of Sesame Street. This was not the only change made between seasons. In the early 1990s, massive geopolitical changes were happening throughout the world, and many maps and clues used during the first season were already out of date. Episodes after season one included the disclaimer "all geographic information was accurate as of the date this program was recorded." As countries changed their names or borders, the giant maps used on the show were updated, often overnight for recording the next day. The second season also expanded the grand prize to allow children to travel to anywhere in North America rather than just the contiguous United States. Blumenthal would also push for more silliness for the second season, encouraging the staff to watch shows like "Animaniacs" and "Rocky & Bullwinkle" for inspiration. Greg Lee also joined the writing staff in addition to his hosting duties, and the series built a world of recurring characters and gags, frequently played by a Rockapella member in some form. The show expanded Carmen's gang of crooks in season 2 to include the space alien, Kneemoi, and the superhero character Wonder Rat. Season two's first episode was the series only "double" episode where the contestants were paired with celebrity teammates Mayim Bialik, Tatyana Ali, and Jeremy Miller. Celebrities also supported the series throughout its run by pre-recording clips as special agents of ACME presenting clues to the players. Rhea Perlman, Sally Jesse Raphael, Walter Cronkite, Penn & Teller, ZAP and TURBO, X the Owl and Henrietta Pussycat performed Mr. Rogers, and many more delivered clues on the show. Joe Biden: "Greg, this is Senator Joe Biden. I just proposed a congressional resolution naming you the best detective of the year." In one surprising case, Greg Lee's mother provided the info to surprise her son. Greg's Mom: "Greg! You've got to do something! This alien came to town and now we can't stop doing the tango! This is corn country song, son, and farm folks have to get up early! Just because Fred Astaire was born in this state, doesn't mean we all like dancing. Get here quick Greg, our feet can't hold out much longer!" Greg: "Can we please get a round of applause for the finest informant ever on this show." The second season also introduced a new game element called "The Chase", where contestants answered a quick progression of questions leading to the Crook's predicted destination. In some cases, "The Chase" was preceded by an actual chase through the sets and audience before the questions were asked. In the final episode of the season, "Gotta Get a Yeti", the series had its only geographical error, causing the correct answer to be considered wrong and noted as such in the end credits. The contestant, who had been eliminated in the first round, was invited to come back in season 3, where he won the game and caught Carmen Sandiego in Asia. Greg: "You should feel good, you came back the second time, you did it! A few moments ago you wrote down where you'd like to go, so that means you and a parent are going to Florida!" Season Two of the show increased its audience size by 16%. By the end of 1992, the show was broadcasting on 92% of the nation's 331 PBS transmitters Approximately 5.4 million viewers watched at least once per week. The show won a Peabody award as well as a Daytime Emmy for Art Direction and Set Design. Broderbund continued its success with its line of Carmen Sandiego software, releasing a deluxe version of the original game along with officially licensed board games. Another Carmen Sandiego series was developed, this time an animated serial produced by DIC animation called "Where on Earth is Carmen Sandiego.” This Saturday morning cartoon premiered on Fox’s Fox Kids Network Block in 1994. Title Theme: "Where is Carmen Sandiego? Carmen Sandiego!" The series followed ACME in their pursuit ofCarmen Sandiego and VILE, and the animation incorporated elements from both the original game and the game show. The series would last for four seasons for a total of 40 episodes with the final episode premiering in 1999. Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego was renewed for a third season on PBS. PBS created a new prize program for season three to reward the viewers at home. The Chief instructed kids to write down the loot and location of each episode on a postcard. After listing four episodes of info, the kids mailed in their postcard to ACME Crime Net. If correct, they entered into a drawing and five kids each day won a Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego T-shirt. International versions of the show were also developed for broadcast, mimicking the show's style and friendly Chief and Greg relationship. British Greg: "Thanks Chief will do! Seeing the Chief upset like that has made me feel like I'm going through torch-ure." Season 3 of Carmen Sandiego would also consist of 64 episodes, and it would air from September to December 1993. The show would be renewed for a fourth and fifth season of 50 episodes each, airing in 1994 and 1995 respectively. These seasons brought more recurring characters, including VILE criminal, Sarah Nade, and many alter egos for Greg Lee, including ACME Man, Gus Lee (Greg's retired detective father), and Phil the Barber. Phil: "How about this? I call it my Marlon Bran-dew!" In the last taped episode of Season 5, Phil the Barber surprised the audience and Rockapella by cutting off the singer Sean Altman's signature braided hair at the end of the show. Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? was a great success for PBS and the team that made it, but after five seasons, some believed it be easier to secure funding for a new show rather than the existing one. Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?'s final episode aired on December 22nd, 1995, but a spin-off game show, "Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego?" would air starting in October less than a year later. Title Theme: "Tell me where in time is Carmen Sandiego? Stop the crime, and solve this mystery!" Lynne Thigpen reprised her role as Chief in the new series, but Greg Lee was replaced by Kevin Shinick as the host of the new show. "Where in Time" was retooled significantly from the original show, taking place in a science fiction setting and focusing on world history rather than geography. Also, the VILE characters were portrayed by actors instead of represented by animation. Carmen: "Blast! Everyone thinks V.I.L.E. is evil, which it is, but we need pazazz." The new show’s animation budget was instead spent on computer-generated 3D effects. Rockapella was no longer featured and a new theme song was created for the show, performed by the show’s new musical group, The Engine Crew. Title Theme: "We're on the case and we're chasing her through history! Chronoskimmer engines hot! Our brave Squadron Leader will help us defeat her and bring back the loot to its rightful place in time! Tell me: where in time is Carmen Sandiego? Stop her crime, and solve this mystery!" These just a few of the many differences between the two shows. "It's 1991, how many advertising dollars are spent in the US?" "37 billion!" "Yes come on! [Sci-Fi Gibberish] Now capture Carmen Sandiego! You've completed every one of your missions!" Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego would last for two seasons, for a total of 115 episodes. Since the conclusion of "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?" The titular character has continued her cultural relevancy through consistent video game releases. Carmen Sandiego was even given a fourth television series on Netflix, which premiered in 2019 and ran for four seasons. This animated show incorporated elements from the original 90’s animation, the computer games, and of course, the hit PBS game show. *Theme Song Riff* Over the decades, geographical changes have made much of the trivia featured on "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?" outdated and incorrect. Fans can find VHS rips of the series on YouTube, but there have been no official releases of Where in the World is Carmen SanDiego. The game show is well remembered for its elaborate theming, high energy, production value, and talented cast. It is considered not only one of PBS’s greatest children's shows, but one of the greatest game shows created for children, more impressive considering it aired in the golden age of children’s game shows. Above all, the show had a very specific goal of educating children on geography, a goal that it achieved and surpassed, resulting in not just education, but a celebration of the world and its cultures. All of this wrapped inside a humorous, non-stop detective adventure. It is no wonder that the show was a hit, and it is obvious why millions of gumshoes tuned in every day to find out, Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?
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Channel: Defunctland
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Keywords: defunctland, kevin perjurer, extinct, abandoned, defunct, history, previous, pbs, where in the world is carmen sandiego, where in time is carmen sandiego, where on earth is carmen sandiego, carmen sandiego history, carmen sandiego pbs, carmen sandiego game show, game show pbs, pbs childrens show, pbs history, pbs kids go history, pbs kids history, kids game shows, pbs geography game, geography game shows, game show history, childrens nickelodeon pbs game show history
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Length: 28min 57sec (1737 seconds)
Published: Tue Apr 06 2021
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