Marley Marl | Drink Champs (Full Episode)

what a good be hopefully this would still be a boy and oe1 up his DJ efn this [ __ ] dream chaps hurry I'll make some right now will you think a hip hop you think a hip hop royalty you think of a guy who had a record label back then who had so many artists who broke so many artists who who stood the test of times I heard through the grapevine that he might have been the first one the sample won't get won't get to that I heard through the grapevine that he was the guy who discovered Rakim our great banda this guy this guy's been countless when you think of like the first CEOs in the first you know I'm saying he has to be up there what it like well you've seen a black crews together our company the first time we ever heard of a black person or non company a regulator at this time at least if you don't know how we talked about [ __ ] legendary boy so let me let me let me take it from the beginning you got one world Diego um let's take it from the beginning how did how did you how did you evening like no come across music Bush fell in love basically I was you know a DJ out there playing in Queens bridge and the part you know was to do jams in the park and um I you know I was the dude in Queens birds coming out every weekend so at that point one day I had the the musician cats coming you know they was down one side I was like around the time when hip-hop was just bubbling so what really happened was like I had the band plug into my system my boy Andre and then the next day that the musicians started coming in my house so I was already two DJ now I got the musician cats from the neighborhood like guitar guitars keyboard players everybody's that started coming to my house because I had a big system and that's how I kind of caught the bug to become more than just the DJ cuz I was already a DJ I want to be that special DJ that has special powers and when I say special powers is that means like special mixes that nobody got something special and that's what you notice when I first caught the bug so let me on Stan's record it he says hip-hop mm-hmm started out in the park he said hip-hop it was set out in the dog set out in the dump before you said that I said I'm gonna tell you a story about where we come from so let's make clear so this is like this was our neighborhood story right that was a tape floating around a neighborhood and that's how the bridge got started from you know it was like a neighborhood tape right and you know you know nobody was trying to say yo hip-hop started in that from that record all gonna start a hip I would say I'm gonna tell you something about where we come from all right who are you guys looking up to at that point in hip-hop well only person people who was looking up to was probably cast from the hood that was able to see because you know nobody outside of the hood not really I was really young and so I was I was too young to go to see Bambaataa when he came to Queensbridge so Wow there was you know that was the other generation before me well if you understand what I'm talking about so I was you know I'm looking up to the cats in the neighborhood like dr. Bob Lee you know like um Jackie jab who's on the REC jammie Jack did it you know what I mean gasps my brother Larry lad was the DJ and the man the mastermind that put it all together electronica wizard his name was T Tong now was that the first record that came from Queensbridge oh no no other records yeah you know what's funny about how hip-hop sits with Queensbridge before hip hop there was like a whole disco air out and it was cast from Queensbridge like the andre boobs the darryl pains the the Michael Bailey's they had records on the radio already Wow now those was the cats that I was looking at well maybe that's why I became a producer because I'm looking at these cats walk around in the hood they got records on the radio all right you know what I'm saying Darryl Paine wrote most of all every disco era song now thanks to you and stuff like that um you know Andre booth yeah this beat is mine back in the day so you know I'm walking around as a little kid in Queens bridge these cats got records on a radio already so I had I had like a a bar to catch up to if you what I mean because all the banne cats was already famous mmm hi records out good so what was it what was your first reckon you would say was successful my first successful record yeah I would probably say mom said knock your own record that is a huge that's what I'm trying to say because with me I've been on both sides but I've been in the beginning a hip-hop we made you know we've made a lot of attempts to do things that that's neighborhood favorites but it ain't generating publishing all right I would say that was one of you know like a big record for me that around a way girl that transcended I believe when I came out of me I'm sorry yes yes squeeze right this Queens Queens one way but I say all that to say that you know for me to even a rise up to be able to make that record it was all in the making mm-hmm I look at my whole earlier career was getting me ready for something kind of big I was just you know it's kind of sparring I'm doing records we makin history we changing how people produce but all that you know I just look at it for me sparring to get to something or I know I need to get to to make an album like that with LL you know every track if I know what I mean to make an album like that in it to make it successful and to be what it is in to sit in people's minds and psyches like that I had to get ready for that so every record I made up to that point led up to that now in the short a movie right here you was actually producing in Queens break so that's what it is producing in Queens but she walked by and you you acted was it was that was that accurate it was it was close it was very close I didn't my window didn't face that way right but it was kind of like that because I already knew she was like a freestyle king and queen was like harsh and cat infinite and you know a bunch of them used to be just on the block freestyling going and they used to always have a crowd sometimes would walk do like and this little chick is killing these cats out yeah you know saying so you know one day I told you know I had that that Roxanne beat and you know she had an idea to do something and I seen it that day I was like yo it's like help me put my clothes in it and in the spin cycle all that was actually a real talks he doing down in laundry threw it in the thing ran upstairs did one take and broke out get to work out there one day and she she wasn't even taking a seriously didn't even know we didn't know we didn't know because she hadn't dozen records yet it to that point I really it really didn't because most of my earlier joints was not supposed to be records like I said I want to be that magical DJ with something special and so you know my first recording that I was working with before was arm I'm sucker DJ's I only did that because sucka MC's me I wanted a special version that only I had that's my dumpling right at the plate right something special but with the chick talking about it suck at DJ's I'm pumping me up so I was like add up play you know most of my earliest songs wasn't ever supposed to be songs they was supposed to be something special for me but the public grabbed onto it now now is it true you just like discovered Rakim um I wouldn't say I discovered rockin Rock Kim came to the crib with Erik be in Queens we're in Queens but I was living on 12th Street you know in that same apartment we did the Shantae record and you're from 12 Street I'm from Vernon people Vernon okay my dad had an apartment you know Queens Brazil you know she gave me the apartment it was like the rent was like a 100 100 110 dollars a month you know what I mean so I just like to pay that for the year just you know I'm gonna put crib and you know have free electricity you know just go in and just make joints that was hell upon me Rock Kim came near Rock Kim came no one who rock him work now now check this out though at first I believe Freddy Fox was supposed to show up lonely knuckle bumpy knuckles and he didn't show up so I'm looking at a like yo Eric wizard man he's like now don't worry I got some light coming tomorrow ba ba ba and bang rockin cane well now you got to think about it names throw now rockin comes and you know rockin weren't to go slower he went to rhyme slow because you got to think about before he got to my house I was already like dabbling a little with cane dabbling little with G rat so we were they wasn't making white music and it wasn't a sign to you at that time pain and I'm Gia I'm came after they got with the UH with the labor board game was always business writer okay you're always lurking around Y always hanging around you know what I mean you know what the crazy I could make sure we get back to this point you know the crazy thing is Bismarck is probably the only person was probably up from that he had a Ghost Rider hit me eazy-e and no one cared right right so before the beginning Kane was right in biz ones I mean I think cain't biz Road was earlier stuff but the stuff that really makes sense but you can obviously it's like even picking boogers I didn't even think Kane had like a personality like that like I you know came was came with K was dope uh oh you know we don't get into Kane any minute because yeah you asked me about Kane he's definitely the one that changed rappin yes it's some crazy with Wow well it made me better okay stay on rock him there right cuz yeah so rock him comes now is it true that every be for president was actually the tragedies record that was actually a record course none of the block Wow but it didn't have that baseline of the same drums okay so what I did one you know he had the idea to use that I had it I was like oh let me strip the track it's none of the block and just keep the drums now let's add doo doo doo doo doo and I played that over and that became Eric B as president okay so that's all that's mix of noise damn it we gotta buy that apartment and just make that a studio my dude that was the one only record that you and Sean say like Isaac so there was other people coming to the house and this is a house 112 Street you say house from 12 Street 45 40 40 you first saw what he foresaw okay that's [ __ ] locked I say now I'm having lived in the next building alright Coppola phone was made across Oh so hello love now I'm [ __ ] up now I feel like I don't even know my own childhood right now I'm so oh my god is Poland building right here then you say in the building right before having building right was here I was the building around that corner Wow and um Jesus have a kingdom was was like kids right is it what havoc and I miss actually his uncle used to be blasting music out the window well I don't even have it yet I used to battle I met him playing beats out the window he's playing music so I would play loud sometime he would play you know so what made you what made you say you know let me get out of the bridge like what guess such as these great things is happening still the projects my I got a little too famous okay because people started like showing up to the career not hanging out coming you know and girls was coming out there getting mistreated trying to meet me to get up because you know started getting a little a little a little crazy with me living out there alright people used to be waiting in front of the building for me to come home what was the very moment where he was like this is it salud man a mother [ __ ] Molly more [ __ ] thank you for being here by the way what was that one moment when he was like he was like oh the moment came some some girl came to Queensbridge I'm she much there really wasn't you know she wants to meet me she was like intrigued by me but and you got the flat top of the time yeah I just started making ring finger rings yeah not enough you know I never wore rings okay okay okay okay okay all right cool cause the houses okay okay okay okay but um a girl got really he's like they really they disrespected this chick because you try to meet came out there to meet me like oh we could take you to America but first you got to do this oh you got to do this you guys happy yeah Blaine Blaine yeah you know I'm saying she came out there to meet me you know they just did whatever you know this to her back then Haiti so they just did whatever and I heard I've heard about the story and I was like you know I wanna I got it I got a move right now because somebody could get hurt right yeah no I definitely wasn't you know it was crazy did you always know Queensbridge was a special place because everybody likes to think your hood is like like you know like you like to think your hood is the best hood in the world when reality over everyone around the world things like that with when you actually thought like that and you guys made the bridge did you did you actually was really knowing that Queens we're just one of those special places on earth I kind of felt that it was something special because Queens were just set right across from Manhattan yes damn you could see you could see success over there you see the money you can see the money you know I'm eration me my windows faced Manhattan Wow when I was a kid they didn't face the hood a lot of my friends who whose windows face inside the hood didn't they didn't think about going over there mmm I saw the lights in Manhattan I want to be over there what's going on over there I want to be over there so my whole thing as the kid was looking out the window because I lived on Vernon right looking straight over the park hi yeah so I'm seeing straight across past Roosevelt seeing a skyline and a bridge going on the side I want to the lights right and it had inspired me to run to them lights right that's crazy make some noise okay okay so I wanna I wanna dip back into the rock Sam movie a little bit so um when did you see did you have approval over anything yeah there's hot stories you know we see the HUD thing that was strictly her story I'm you know I'm glad she was able to tell her story because I didn't know it was that deep like that what I didn't know when I was dead like the other personal stuff you didn't write here the personal stuff I didn't know it was that deep right so I'm glad she got to tell her story right because you know you know you survived abuse like that that's that's why yeah a strong person yeah I didn't know they keep your face going you know with anybody else didn't everything is going on people look up to you in a way so you know I gotta commend her for that is he got a tough story right that opens the door for me to tell mine right because this one time I think she's on tour to kind of try to make you look bad was that do you keep honest mine I think she uh she's on tour and they said that the promoters the promoter and Amanda stole the money yeah yeah yeah um so I mean she didn't make me look bad because I just stole the money it was the kind of thing we like in the early part of hip hop so nobody know what the hell right everybody's like we flying from the seat of our pants next thing you know she obtained in my house and recorded that freestyle one take joint like two three weeks later we on private planes you wanted to show three shows in three different states so we need like a private situation to move around at date in this like like three weeks later all right you can record on the right right so we yeah it got real popular real quick alright cuz that was like the like I don't want to say the beginning in a hip hop but that was like the the stages of hip hop actually finding success like it and actually starting to be on the radio cuz then from there that led to you going on the radio correct mr. master master actually I played how freestyle on the rocks and freestyle or mr. magics w-wait should be a show Wow back in the day at one time Wow it was a it was like a week before Christmas so it was just crazy that that the record company that grabbed the record they had records out about Christmas they had records out in seven days all over the country a was it was it was no no it was it was like everything just messed up right uh-huh if you know what I mean everything messed up they ran with the cassette we play from I never mix the record down to master I play check this out played it on our show and we recorded our show playing the record and gave them that tape and they made the record so of that so a recording of a recording is the wax a recording from the radio right yeah that's why it goes oh my goodness because magic was talking [ __ ] over uh and the record came out like that and they was got it out in seven days and you know it you know it probably did it probably did really well because it was all over the place rap was new Roxanne Roxanne was dope at the time and the here comes the female you see how many other records came out after that trying to be Roxanne's whatever it was already too late alright if you know what I mean that's when I realized that that I had some hmm because if anybody was following like that oh I got to make more joints all right oh they follow it alright so I got it I got a move on this and that's when I really discovered with the success at at mmm I was like wow you know I started doing shows you know when you know we came out we came by head and you came out to Miami you know is all over the place with Shantae all right you know we used to have the little 808 drum machine and this is you know this is before this is before Luke Skywalker was doing - Life to Live this one it was like he had the DJ's you got a style ghetto style DJ's back in the America people collide but the timeline don't know sure if you knew so I came out with an 808 yeah and we had we put it on some bass because the act was good used to have the ghetto style DJ's kids have a crazy system sounds as it was yeah so you you know that these two have like a warehouse like a Lego I have no idea yeah they're gross by the way look what I got famous thanks to Tony's parties girl style DJs and it was like big supermarkets yeah but it was a club and they had these big huge sound system speakers as 12 you could see so you know one day I went out there with my 808 he used to do a freestyle and you know it's hot time can't lie timeline can't lie we'll do it straight up so I can tie it with the 808 put that [ __ ] on mmm [ __ ] was like what everybody ran and look because he had the big system hey I come with a 808 next to you know a few years later Miami got big perhaps well you know I could have been him when I brought the base of Miami whoo with the 808 what shall I tell you back in the day because everybody ran a look and see what the hell I was doing right cuz they were just playing The Breakers there what you came and played original records that played the 808 no I brought the 808 drum the drum machine actually and did it right there plugged it in today system on a freestyle and rabbis like what the [ __ ] is that oh [ __ ] how did you meet biz markie biz that's he was another person that came out to Queens Bridge to meet me okay and so he hung out there for about a week in Queens Bert yeah he just was hanging out he's all night you know biz business like anyway you you in with quarter hillman roots - I did you did what nobody beats the biz I think this came out of the bridge I think somebody gotta buy this apartment my dude yeah making him or somebody gotta buy it as it walks in so yeah so he came he was like like that girl but he came out to the Queen he came out to Queens bridge where he was a a guy hanging out so he hung out on 12 Street young with them for a few days there you go on this block he hang with them just staying on a block overnight whatever next thing you know like about the fourth day or fifth day somebody say yo some [ __ ] in the hallway beatboxing mmm I was like I wanna have no feed blocks ass and they go right now off he's out mm-hmm Dougie fresh but he nice oh they I let me go see him soon that [ __ ] made a quick demo the next you know that very next day which was make the music now now now cuz biz like I always say I want to play biz in a movie right you know I'm saying because he keep on comedy like that's that's something that I like I Maya about hip hop was just always front like hip hop was so serious like so all my videos always like try to do some type of comedic did did how did you know that about biz like did you or did you even know that you knew that I recognized it when I saw him on stage mmm because he used to you know it when he once he started working with John Taylor and they started doing little routines and I started saying seeing mmm he kinda nice but he he ain't rough like everybody else we [ __ ] with she rapping you know G rapper kill you with the lyrics back in them days and even Sharon was nice Sharon was kind of nice back in the day well if you know what I mean so when this came this he had some fun like staying he was always joking in the studio so his rhymes we kind of never took serious because he's kind of joking laughing and all that you know so he started bringing the comedic side out of us so but because you because Cain wrote all nobody beats the business as well no I was busy although wait for my movie I see okay I think I wrote it so you can I do have the original demo that somebody else did the verson they usually wait for the movie you see Wow that's it that's it papi it's to be right here my bad actually to drink Molly I throw it out there my brother you got to have a drink with us brother come on come on all right so what what else was recorded in the bridge before we move on of course the bridge vector was of course know that Marley scratch was recorded in the bridge of course we know Eric B as president and my melody was made there Roxanna Shantae the earth oh my early my early Oh take it off by spoonie gee moon was made there oh I made that the yeah they take it off by spoonie gee what else so so those are my earlier records how are you guys recording the vocals I had a four track but it would have put a [ __ ] Mike with no well a real portrait with the real yeah first Marley scratch was a flawed track has said hmm cuz you know I was already sampling however new had a sample so I was beating people already I could add a to track and still be people right as I was sampling and taking breaks nobody knew what the [ __ ] I was doing did you think you you start a sampling for hip-hop breaks yeah I don't know if I if I did it not but I made that [ __ ] you know it's my brother in them you know the high fidelity crew fee Queensbridge they used to play a lot of bricks before I was a DJ so I had access to their [ __ ] because my brother was one of the DJ's when he went to the service I had access to all the [ __ ] they was playing right so you know nobody's the Bisby was one at a records mmm that they used to rock as a break beat alright you give it I'm saying fly like an eagle that's from nation you get what I'm saying so I would take elements from my brother in them records and you know make me seem older because it was [ __ ] that they used to rock before I was I was able to get on and what point is juice crew getting created all those who juice crew you gotta think sir juice is mr. magic a lot of people run up to me and say mr. magic Marley Marl but they called me mr. magic Marley Marl that's two people a lot of people don't know mr. magic was the first rat the first person to play rat period on the raid all right and bring it and bring it mainstream so he's a good his compilations they used to come out right right he used to be on a late night you know playing a rap music you know when nobody was even caring about it mmm you know what I mean so he was the first rap DJ when he went to BLS that's when I got wouldn't when I became an engineer all-star Baltimore with the mixing gloves that I never wore so um how did you a shin who's Janice from the bridge obviously Shin Chan's actually from Brooklyn what chance from you you are killing my childhood right now no no no that has chance from left left its left [ __ ] pull the water leopards Avenue but his mom's his mom's father was Gramps yo you gonna legal a lot of people's childhood right now no no no that s told his grandfather lived in Cuba so he's the frequent a that big started getting famous he still started staying with his grandfather but you know as far as contract that I got it says left it's left its Boulevard Wow Brooklyn is oh God oh I would have never thought you would have said that doesn't well big up pick up pick up [ __ ] you gotta have a warrant he did rap yeah they read for the hood right you know you know he got our story told yeah so how does that happen because this is this is a legendary Becky this is the this is the whenever you Queensbridge they're gonna play this regular no I'm saying we're the bridge the book do you got a general the story about knives they tell the story about mobb deep that's the first record they gonna go to so how does this come about do you know you're gonna make the anthem for your hood for 30 [ __ ] years to come now check this out it wasn't supposed to be a record like I said nothing I made was supposed to be a record for you to pull I was supposed to be intermission music for Queensbridge day in a park that I can play in between the bands wow so that was like that was like a Queensbridge intermission record for us only so I played it in the park and I believe that year somebody got killed Wow - god bless god bless the day I guess a little Jose from 10th Street right you got a guy you gotta hit but um that's what it was there was intermission music okay for in-between because the bands was hot he wasn't nine right advance was the [ __ ] so the record comes out so what happens after the record is made you others I'm saying you did you and she ain't looking at each other like we got the anthem for the hood all say it's just the intermission just an intermission so it's so we made it two years before the public heard it okay it was already floating around the hood heavy mmm my nephew leaked it out freedo leaked it out to the hood what and then everybody had the tape I was like damn and then you know Lawrence and was doing beep later you know that's what Sam was going at LF alarms like you know put that one you know he's from Philly put that jump put that John on the B side man ain't no Ricky that's specially made a house for Queens birthday but you're talking about now put on the p-side oh yeah [ __ ] it let's let it go it's already leaked out in the hood next thing you know we shan't start doing crazy shows you could you know you know you know the reaction you get a hot joint next thing you know your show appeals dog going up and that's why I knew that work mmm we started getting crazy shows so then you what do you what what comes out after this um the bridge is over or the South drop South Bronx came out South Bronx came out because okay magic see Karis one of them was that power play while I was recording power play and Queen and they making the hole you made the bridges blocks away explain let mix block a now reason studio doing this okay taken with you fine power please okay I'm in a big I'm in a room yes bp's in the room put any money up going in a lab get me together right now we we in a studio you know scala rock comes in the room you know mr. magic pleased to meet you thank you you know could you please coming out really listen to our suit and tell us what you think so you know magically i being there later met mr. magic was very unruly because he was real mean to mother for us I know God blesses you know God bless God bless so but you know he was he was wearing them do that he's a keeper yeah if you like you tell you oh okay now now mr. Madison your Molly now this is you know I'm just magics engineer DJ how old are you at that time gotta be about could be about 78 okay I'm [ __ ] I'm the mad mad skinny cuz i make money yet so I'm like anorexic he's like you'll come with me man in the room and listen to these [ __ ] [ __ ] so now we go in the room put song they all going they jumping all crazy around the room mr. masses looking around he just goes over to the volume knob turn that [ __ ] down now you know how it is in the studio and just gets silent all right [ __ ] the cameras one yeah and look is the whole cruise like a whole room full of [ __ ] just me imagine right indeed oh they could have just thought of square I know mm-hmm if it was real like yeah but I guess it wasn't because that was a square off moment well that's [ __ ] he said yo you want the real hip-hop MC Shan Roxane shot Savior Molly Moore mr. magic make it get the [ __ ] out it he just walked out the room on these [ __ ] what did you think of the record though it wasn't it wasn't what they it didn't have the energy of what we made them come out with it wasn't South Bronx okay you know what I mean it wasn't nothing like the album so they regroup they [ __ ] so they didn't play South Bronx that wasn't the record no okay uh they never come out to the place the magic is from Brooklyn I thought miss magic from the Bronx always in Brooklyn but he moved to the Bronx okay okay okay then after that that poof you know nomination now this does like that so everybody he said and they face he they put on the record made that look at that night they could have got the fuel that night they make it [ __ ] got the bridge now man [ __ ] their self wrong sorry you know that could have feel that but next thing I know I hear South Bronx mm-hmm and I'm late I'm like to be honest I was like y'all [ __ ] ain't gonna believe man [ __ ] them [ __ ] yeah that's how I felt about that first like nobody gonna bleed them [ __ ] mad cuz you know number one win say that I think people was that dumb connor to believe that [ __ ] to believe what that that that he said that we said hip-hop started in Queensbridge but we don't say that [ __ ] right I'm like like people smarter than that they ain't gonna believe that dumb [ __ ] because we never said that next thing you know that's it became a hit I'm like that made me think that damn that [ __ ] is like kind of slow especially at that time it made me really think that I was like yo yeah but you know it's all good because you know we need the teacher in hip-hop Ronny's history and I'm glad we made history but in the beginning I was like I think nobody was gonna believe that [ __ ] cuz we never said that and so so shares like yo listen let's go back in the lab must go make arm killing that noise you know which I believe should have been like a three verse of record and what maybe two verses because its first two verses are in the track is the track was kind of dope then they came back with the bridge is over hmm what you know it's just crazy it's crazy and so that day we rushed had a studio a magic system I leave my drum real March my magical drum real that mayor agrees president that made nobody the [ __ ] know you going with this martini took I don't know you go ahead as Molly they take the box we take the drum real oh and that's the drums on bridges oh oh let my drum set yeah they could lie and say yeah we took it from Eric B's president that's my [ __ ] I think and someone told us that part no I don't think so most important so so the bridge is over actually comes out you said you don't believe this but what was the what was like the biggest black lash of that like was it a moment where you you felt uncomfortable like because serious I wasn't [ __ ] with them chanting when did tours with them and make commercials and all that well I was not late early or not during that time period that was a little after cause remember they had a sprite commercial yeah oh yeah he'd be the sprite commercial I was like nine [ __ ] with them y'all go get that y'all go do that cuz you know I was like I wasn't [ __ ] with them I fought for the years and years I mean I ain't [ __ ] with all hours like what I went start producing jeer at you get what I'm saying oh gee rap and King I just went to the next next next level [ __ ] but you know I never I never want to make money with you I was like man go ahead with it yeah and I'm gonna be no commercials under that Bush was at a time where you you you like felt shaky because you know like when a person is they like most the time when you have good battles like real good battles they'll say that once a person leave the other guys finish like it was a time you felt like that because of that record or no no I felt that I had more in the bag because you was what you're producing yeah you know I have more in the bag but you know I was already working with G Rap already like on the low we probably had a demo already right so I was already on on you know and then Kane was hanging around them saying so I was like on the next phase already so I'll let let that one let that one go to where it was going how are you now a carrot oh we made that album when it was a big day biggest selling that we may hit pop loose yeah mmm-hmm as one of his biggest sellers you know that was years after because I only did that because I have other acts I've read his bio because for years I didn't you know I forgot about these [ __ ] in the studio that they that magic used to disobey people who's like this so regular I don't remember even this [ __ ] that power play oh yeah I read his bio in the cellar in his bio mr. magic just does our play and I was like so four years all of years I know why he was so mad at us why we killing [ __ ] out here right yeah we're changing the game - [ __ ] you're mad at make sense you get what I'm saying so I never [ __ ] with them [ __ ] y'all matter we slay in the game right you get what I'm saying alright so I never understood so once I saw that years later oh that was them dude now it all makes sense I saw Chris one day I was like yo Chris I didn't know y'all was them [ __ ] that time estudio me and started laughing about it I said yo man we should do something and we [ __ ] around you know mmm but that's how that all happened but you know I wasn't [ __ ] with the none of that [ __ ] back in the doctor just very serious I took that [ __ ] burnin burnin Bulevar series all right now was it a rumor that just ice came to Queensbridge one day yeah you know start no [ __ ] no because I always thought that the beef was like respected like I always thought like like like like Sharon knew what it was and cameras knew where it was so they like you said there was ink that's how they ended up that's how it ended up but because I started doing shows together I started doing the commercial yeah but in the beginning it was none of that um nah I wasn't [ __ ] with you I never [ __ ] with it at all right I know you think you think you would like it would've been violence if you did like yeah of course I know yeah yeah oh it's crazy I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad we got a I think we brush it over juice crew like no no no we going back yeah I'm not like them like the Marvel Comics of hip-hop I think juice crew was like like like like the epitome of like with the firm was supposed to be and like these other like certain things is supposed to be but the juice crew is the firmest inspired definitely of the crew was a blueprint for what was next to come even the cold chillin was a blueprint for like bad boy and attachment record yeah and I didn't own cold chillin I was at Steph what holy moly how's the staff producer I always took you own country let me take what I my first my first job with cold chillin I was a staff producer so they they would have I will pop up with the artist and go on a studio my wasn't making 65 thousand a year the first first year then when we got what Warner Bros thought to make a two hundred thousand dollars a year but I still like 20 years so um you started working after Shan at the Shante is that when Big Daddy Kane comes in out jeer at G back comes we're at now cheap rappers from Corona Corona come on tape and slash left fracking the left Rock a little while my big pick it up in my building I think I believe well it's a whole lap do right yeah okay polos to go to school with me okay a while at school because I never when I was in school they kicked me out of every school because I was you know robbing everybody hmm you would never think that but I was good [ __ ] Robbin [ __ ] you know well go I was I was so nice I could go in the closet in school and go up an event and come down in another classroom and go through a pocket oh wow I was nice with it from night they kicked me out of a tit I like regular schools in like fifth grade it's hard to go to like 600 schools like junior jail I got no six I which would I went to school in Miami with the ps4 okay there's nobody live from that school what god bless them there but I'm you know and I went there and you know and I met polo all those in my class mmm so you know after I got famous me and polo stay cool and I was like yo man make a group of something man there's something negative rapper and I told get a rapper [ __ ] you know I rock a rock with you sin and he has me doing a frosty freeze first that was his first rafter they made a record called polo polo whatever and then you know it was whatever he went to jail he's still in jail to this day I love Wow but but then he got jeer at that dude oh I do was you know then that's when the whole my whole production started changing because jeer at you know gee rappers are some different [ __ ] mmm that's when I started you know sampling up the it's a demo [ __ ] [ __ ] before everybody because you know he was on that gangsta [ __ ] early the fly ever heard it anywhere else I was always hearing G Rap telling little gangster stories of street stories and [ __ ] all right so that's why you know I was yeah I'm with him and then then then we moved moved up a bit then we started you know bass then we started doing [ __ ] you know Cain Cain mm-hmm you know what Cain was this is this who flattop rules in 89k oh is this who's afro not some we're talking about he's talking about his business right and I am believing I'm out you went too fast mom you had the high top figure okay so you so there's queen wrist nice my mood was story okay okay okay oh you move up people do the story just move right down the block first got some money I moves right groaning what do you mean you ain't leave what it was a town oh you had a Charles are you have a town my [ __ ] look like a town house it was still a regular apartment mom I said so you Moodle a story yeah and then got now business leave something some effort looking stick up [ __ ] knocking on my door talkin about yo I write for bids wow I'm right here you write for him tell me something that didn't come out yet he told me one of the door come in DC I write for bids and he's late I had this for him for today so we sit in there he's like yo you know I want to see how I sound on tape cuz he wasn't trying to be I mean like you just want to be right he was a he was a rapper already he was dope but he wasn't really flexing the us that he was a rapper right because their whole thing was let biz get on first plan he's gonna open the door for everybody huh you know what I'm saying so he was you know he just wasn't doing protocol he's like oh that's no ha no [ __ ] yeah buddy what we's in the room in the room and he's like yo you know I always want to see our sound on this joint so you know I'll take you there and I whipped it up real quick I'll take you that was the first recording I haven't made with him while he's awake waiting for biz or me I'll take you to his first his first record and you know and I went to the record company like yo business writer is this [ __ ] well you need to come out they like nah man he's the writer they was trying to friend Oh back seat came yeah he's trying to front that first like so you know what I would do with can just record [ __ ] around everybody just coming to Studio One I'll show up okay come to the lab about so we started doing his album kind of behind the scenes hmm but the first the record company they've dated they fronted on Cain they say no that's business writer oh hey no rapper but they him I did I'm like no that [ __ ] mics that [ __ ] nice enough to come back later and change the [ __ ] game Wow so so so you but he's not so he's coming up I told mom right so when was the birth afro what a fool not even right and you told me you said magic told him magic was like yo you're getting onstage represent for us with your hair like that [Laughter] represent the juice could just [ __ ] like that and then I think that's when they're a hot toughy pop back with the heights off feet so you got the CK go from like come up cuz that one point came was like like jay-z like of now at yeah how did you how did that feel like getting to see that process it was really good because at that point that's when Kane changed right after raw yeah rap game again yeah it was never demeaning break that down for us you know because before raw before I made that record war with Big Daddy can't anybody was wobbling the cable all the records was walk workings you couldn't walk them to raw that was that [ __ ] that made your face cold who the [ __ ] is that hey after that for two years straight roar had to be the last record played in a club in the club well I'm the denied because you can't play none after it was so dope we had to catch up to that uh-uh you get what I'm saying so when Rock Kim first came in my house you know rockin you know I saw an interview way he said I'm Molly try to change my style I didn't try to change the style try to bring them to where where it was going because eventually he went there anyway you get him saying the first record was my melody mm-hmm then Herbie as president took a little faster you what I'm saying but my my initial idea when I first heard of rockin was to speak because because Kang was doing 130 some already I'm saying Kang was already speedy M yeah he was already speeding he was already rhyming off for fast beats so and then later warning and Rakim Korea that they rhythm hit him stone so someone so everything's fast because Kane came made it can't change the game with raw mmm that was it nobody couldn't what make what records no more mmm it was it was already Public Enemy came out speeding ll was speeding everybody was speeding because Kane took the temple look came a more focused want to quit I know I know [ __ ] coming to me that that day that [ __ ] love saying it when I first heard [ __ ] Kane I was I was going to quit cuz that [ __ ] it was nice he changed the [ __ ] game and he was smooth with it then once them started liking him and then he Madonna and sometimes you know like my blues pioneers you know you ever look at this new generation and be disgusted no I look at it as evolution graph mm I can't evolution in a good way or evolution in was we were you get what I'm saying I'll get it the people who don't like with the young kids is doing you too old yeah because when I fell in love with what I was doing I was about 18 years 18 years old musician was mad at me I'm sampling [ __ ] musician [ __ ] now I got a button depressed right but what famous probably say interception about us exactly so I just call it evolution man let these little [ __ ] do what they do man if they want to mumble mumble on [ __ ] right [ __ ] that do that [ __ ] if that's what they want to hear good [ __ ] I told [ __ ] around the way yo you ain't mumbling how did you miss nas how you the inside you know what the funny [ __ ] about nods with me with Queensbridge I never knew nas run he never came to me he will always stand on the side watch so you saying like that [ __ ] on the album rocks a movie was like cuz remember here I'm for her he was [ __ ] I mean he was [ __ ] with her like that because Sean say he was a street girl so you know everybody all over the hood of course but nas never stepped to me because I had core mega mega had sex drugs is a money song out in the hood yeah yo listen um I heard of called mega first like he was the first like guy I heard from Queens was like underground of course like prior but yeah that's why that's why I NAS probably never stepped in me because I already had mega alright mega was [ __ ] with me yeah mega yeah I'm gonna say damn NAS you gotta like I remember even you know even with Percy tragedy everything you know you still live on my block even wanted he went on me with the jail out there in control so you know I made sure he came home the money hear what I'm saying so much you know alright boom but you know him and mega kept going to jail mmm so I couldn't really get it how I needed to beat because they will come home make some hot [ __ ] next thing you know they've gone for many mmm supposed to be doing while you're gone for me alright you know I'm saying mega-mega had sex drugs money that was them song he made a key Queensbridge before anybody was on that [ __ ] Wow yeah but he went to jail yo man moon away we in the studio yeah I'm going away next week where you going I'm going to jail I got a do like the three points so I got to do like three so that's why you know what nods nods never really stepped in me because that Street [ __ ] he was on already I already had those dude you're certified cats from the hood right you know I already had mega and and you know the second verse on live motivator that's the blueprint of Queensbridge mmm you know anybody that's hearing my voice go listen to the second verse of live motivator and that's the blueprint you have you ever regret it you not step into NAS no because I understood what it was when they came to get nas we mean like you know when the industry came to get nas I'm sure what it was you understood yeah they needed him okay you know I'm saying they needed representative from Queensbridge the place I made hot right even with mob the mob right I understood what it was all about right they need it part of that you know I'm saying and that was the next generation of it so you know what but by that point but I think by the time nas can I was already probably what the way ll okay the loudest [ __ ] in the room we got a ball ball god damn it so um dance you know I thought I thought that would be something you was either said you wish she was a part I mean not even I was I was out to produce one of the records on the first album no matter yeah okay but you know me well I'll do all albums right yeah that's all that's all and and the first mobb deep premier was the one that that executive produces that one right back project earlier earlier I don't know would do stick yeah nice premier premier was involved in that project okay and and how about that woman well mom mom I mean I understood what it was we're on with Chris lighty and in regards to dead I understood that they needed a piece of that Queensbridge alright if Clippers was bubbling at that Holly you know they needed it so I get it completely I already know what it is it was hot interesting because me being from left right and me hearing like you and trash having turmoil right and then me being a part of we had a record court la la and he was it was the first person he thought of was you and I was like it was weird because I always thought I had like some type of thing and he came to you and it was it was actually like dope to see it was dope to see grown men where it was dope that even do that project Mac right did you know did you ever think that if tragedy never met if we'd be sitting here right now this is exactly what I'm saying that's exactly what I'm saying trash with me on you put trash on so in a way if you was not if you don't exist I might not be here we might not be sitting here to Mars intelligent at that point yeah he's a super king before intelligent I don't know the story he's saying attacks yeah yesterday I got his name from that record people start calling him tragedy because of that record he just man with it I'm rocking with them so that's how I used to make records back then yes to make it and oh it out I'm just making Wow and and I used to be like the radio radio DJ for magic so you know I was able to use it as a promo first mm-hmm and then watch it go mm-hmm so how did you link up with trash how did you even mean he's from the block okay it's like with Craig eat Craig he's from my bill Reggie Reggie from my building the Queensbridge tragedy was that little little dude that lived on the block on the first floor there's the jump out the window and go to the park jams mmm good I'm saying mmm you know we all grew up on the same block so we we all knew each other I knew his mom's step pops it's like you know everybody's off the same block mm-hmm so you know it started getting warm and they started rhyme and I said yo this let's go make something yeah you know and in the funny state contracts was [ __ ] up back then we did a lot of [ __ ] and just got paid that one time what that's part of what it was if you understand yeah so um masta ace I was about to say that cuz that's Brooklyn all right master 81 us a us a skating rink contest what was that that's a jackson idea little skater me Jackson Heights he wonders he won the skating rink contest to go in the studio with me mmm so we made one record but he was nice I was like no no he was real nice he was too nice to be where he was at if you ask me I feel bad what a situation with Cole chilling because he was too nice and they didn't know because cold chillin is the Stars is Cain right is G rat right right Shante Shante was gay she is so you came after everybody was poppin and they couldn't really see but he was bringing it was later when Greg masters incorporate right that was delicious violin yeah that's when it really play it that's when he popped to a car I always felt ace got some specialties yeah but it was just that was you work around before Trackmasters or or after Chuck Bass is before it was before yeah yeah they tried to they try to relight that fire when they put him with with them thinking that they could do what I do even though there's just using all my samples back anyway alright the weekly sampling you back yeah yeah that's one glad I got publishing because jay-z and my adjoint they made put my daughter to school Jennifer appreciates that the person does sample you is it is it is the honor or like how do you feel how you feel about that but first they better make it a hit cuz we trying to make money if you sample me alright and example me on the flops right but you know um a lot of people don't know that that that song theraflu can a young [ __ ] get money anymore Kanye Kanye save my life people people don't know I'm Tara food yeah you know but remember ll said that on a record - yeah so we owned a lot of that record the Kanye record and it came at a time when she was a little funky for me mmm and it really changed my life I got it like Thank You Connie because kind of changed my life and don't know well but when you made that record it's dope it made so much [ __ ] money well that it was a life changer mmm know what I mean and and I just knew I'm gonna thank him for that you know he probably don't know but you know how she you know we got about ups and downs and thoughts so you know who was wrong it was on a downs downward spiral and one day I got a call everyone to declare theraflu you're a writer on I'm like what are you talking about well Canas gonna do it on Soul Train tomorrow you you need to approve it what are you talking about I'm never gonna do it that song and I listened to it and I didn't catch it I looked on ASCAP and so me as a writer for you to not catch it I met she was poppin for like two summers and I was hearing that's it for two straight summers Oh poppy - and everything not knowing oh what's yo by the time you know by the time you think tallied up and everything came around and the published in pop it was it was life-changing were you ever on the other side of that issue about sampling yeah I got sued on fall around awake girls and pista president went around the way girl and the [ __ ] that sued me gave me the record when he went back and bought the rights to it after our sample didn't put it on all these hits and then sued me you get no pup I'm gonna say your name okay cool that it Dale I was the one that cut like that's when that whole sampling thing started right this marquee biz markie was the first [ __ ] up sampling case all right that that there's somebody one for sampling there was Gilbert O'Sullivan alone again naturally and he used it on on his record and got sue and that's when all the lawyers friggin realize you could supersize you can make money off of all the business and everybody started coming out suing everybody but biz markie that you know after I stopped producing everybody for cold chillin they started trying to replicate what I was doing for them mmm but this you know sampling when I used to sample used to be kick snare hi-hat and I'm making my own beat right making my own looping I wasn't looping like half of the records like that acting like I produced some he was taking sounds ticking sounds and manipulating the sounds like my own patterns and putting stuff over it that's how I started sampling maybe I'm gonna from to be honest maybe I'm the first person to chop up a beat mocha chocolate another four convenient that's all to make it unrecognizable to make you not to make my own soup out of it I could take a kick of snare and put my own pattern right you know like Eric beers president like nobody beats the biz and those are that's impeach the president but I haven't making my own beat out of that sound so I'm the first to do that and he's the president that's the tragedy record us arrest of president's trying to do it arrest the president was on tragedy record later on what kind of flack did your hobby see you back there I guess we're [ __ ] make a arrest the president right now is making fake [ __ ] Donald Trump songs I loved him right right back didn't yeah but yeah he had a few visits yeah Secret Service yeah he got a probably out a few visits Wow him personally you got ask him don't break an era he told me a story or two about you how to visit it too and this is when hip-hop cuz now remember we have [ __ ] the police from NWA right so now he's saying arrested for all aliens right and you produced this correct yeah what so the backlash you you didn't get nice okay make sure yeah I'm scary moments right how could we live it in a scary time right now real close real crazy wit yeah what was the craziest thing that you saw that said man I gotta fall back this is we out of line the craziest thing I've seen is how and you know it's how certain entities and people want to keep our people stupid if you know what I mean so that's the violent type of stuff no no no they want to keep you know like kind of like keep it where you don't have to be intelligent to make a lot of money keep us you know make people have to stoop down mmm to go back and revert so what it's like what you think about streaming streamers the [ __ ] is this the new it's the new you know it's the new money make an app as opposed to you you know buying my record and I'll buy my property now you can stream it naka still money mmm the more streams you make the more money you make but you don't have to actually download my app listening to it and it could spread like a viral goes viral like streaming streaming was good they had to do that they had to get a hold of this digital it was out of control first but when CDs first came and started getting digital and mp3s in a Napster yeah they would say a CDs was like the most expensive shino and the labels were disrespectful with CDs the way they were overcharging for what it was causing them right but when digital came out that was this one everything study they had to learn how to control that now streaming is the way to control it because if you're streaming it from a site that's generating money now of course you're looking at these artists right now they don't care about sales oh they don't care no I get money off streams right and that's what it turned into the industry had to figure out how to make money off the digital because they was losing in the beginning yeah that's real talk so now your catalog it is that yeah all your catalog you do get like stream um some of the stuff the later successful stuff here because a lot of my earlier stuff was just what it is it wasn't even in the contract yeah yeah digital you know to be honest digital was never in nobody conscious nobody conscious it wasn't a thing is digital yeah it wasn't nobody no it was all physical I was wondering when the artist was analog right I was wondering when the industry message when the industry was gonna sue for for digital rights because as artists we never signed for this yeah y'all just took it there I heard Chuck D sued University on one see something was kind of with internet radio early on he was always ahead of the curve yeah but everybody signed contracts and didn't sign for streaming and then sign for digital it wasn't enough they just took it as yeah and and made that concept and want to pay you what they want to pay you hmm do you insane they just want to give you what they want to give you mmm isn't the probably not what we deserve because sales power was more hmm we probably get like 3.2 percent of a and yeah every stream when we was getting 12% and nothing before alright you good I'm saying so we could be getting less but it's just what it is I was wondering when the artist was gonna step up to that yeah no I swear oh my god we got we gotta do that not a symphony yeah whoo I need to fall back and just tell me how the hell this happen you know my album cover you see us at the UM the the the jet the Learjet I thought that was obscene a burro early was you the first do that clear port no doubt god damn it [Applause] [Music] you woke the shrimp boy in that's real honey so [ __ ] in the clip oh yeah okay okay all right that day came you know before that day came and jeer at made a freestyle off of raw when it was going back-to-back all the way out it was it was like some I played on the radio like a few times but everybody was getting excited you got this you got this in archives okay so what happened after we made that that photo shoot in front of the airplane and legend all that and so came was like you know let's go make a record and I was like bad let's let's recreate that thing y'all did off Raw but everybody was with us so we went back to ruin to UM historia that was made a story that's nice oh my god I mean the story of project not surprising story apartment overwhelmed and so when we get there masta ace was there cuz he's gonna have them Shanshan was like you know I meet your there that's the album right yeah don't mind control out on it the legit the back of it yeah so now we go and make that record mmm now nobody wants to run first so then I said let me put master ace on there just to fill up the space cuz it wasn't gonna be on the wreck because the person at the end at that time was the hot right so hot right so nobody go through and oh because you're sitting there talking about I want to be first so Mindy and the pressure was so high do without a dick that was a keeper everybody heard his rhyme was like all [ __ ] just this new [ __ ] [ __ ] he's the new guy [Music] mmm that's probably why she and Ashok what was supposed to be there Sam Sam was gonna come to that he was gonna be on that record you know what I'm saying so he got on he killed it everybody's looking at him like oh [ __ ] yeah you might go heavy in the pan it got quiet CGT rap over there Seymour [ __ ] King over there and then then Craig jeez do his part which was hot and then all of a sudden they looking at your who's gonna go who's gonna go they don't they all get about who's gonna go first geographic a mangie rat gets on and wraps all the way to the end of the beat you don't give kaa no space okay look what happened I had to cut sea bass part down and give canes from space with the cane say right there when he grabbed just wet what do you was the slaves looking at each other like if they had they always had like a ill inside competition going on and I loved it I felt like all three of them like jeer at Caine and rock him I felt like no doubt it was always a secret let me explain something about the whole creation of Erik being about Kim okay I was introduced to Erik by pollo so now that I got the connection translated the corner yeah so so what it was Erik be was hanging around with polo and with us first mmm right so he saw a polo get with Z rat and make a group wait wait so G rap came before okay oh yeah I'm lucky I'm a rock yet yeah I always thought about a kid not and I'm G right not a no talk of ever rock him being a part of juice crew no because that's I could think about what you you know was crazy when I we're not um when we first made my melody and everybody's president I think the Eric B is president day I gave them like demo mixes house they young I'm gonna mix this next week so to make a copy of what y'all got and that was the record it's all sloppy [ __ ] was all loud but it was the [ __ ] vocals going I'm riding vocals live you know it's all out coming out of nowhere at the end of the records that [ __ ] but that was the record that's what people loved yeah and but I'm telling you I don't think if if if Eric B wasn't hanging around polo he probably wouldn't got the idea to do a group mmm because he saw polo do it so easily with us he's like yo [ __ ] that everybody coming up here getting become his stars I could I could make a rapper come up here too yo could we get the studio tomorrow I got so much so coming that's how kind of happy he was hanging around polo first all right polo kind of like pop different when you first seen Rock Kim did you did you think he was good cuz Rock Kim Chi I heard you say Kay in Chains rap earlier mm-hmm I can't change rap too because he gave definitely he definitely uh he had a dope tone when I first heard his tone I know it was weak off the [ __ ] change-o and I had a [ __ ] Mike he still was dope so I already knew just this [ __ ] nice right here it's something something different about his word played I always knew ya were played if you know what I mean right he always had wordplay and as soon as I heard it from the top I was cat dog I wasn't he didn't curse right and he didn't curse too and it was hard [ __ ] right I don't never really peeps he didn't really curse you wouldn't dig that yeah is real talk my child is really [ __ ] up right now I'm thinking about obviously yeah he was just dope yeah yeah work play yeah we're playing and flow you when you heard nas the evil mind you a rockin first time your nas cuz that's what everybody say you know the first time I heard nas yeah I think it was any hard to tell was the first time yeah I heard one on the barbeque first lobby yeah that's when anybody's I killed a kid from from knew from the 40 side and back to the grill again wasn't before I don't think I maybe I didn't pay attention to it like that malte getting too much money at that time yeah I could have could have missed that one but by the time the barbeque came out that's when that was like old I went to jail for snuffing Jesus when I was 12 I went to help was the big one when I heard him say that [ __ ] my architect I was so proud of you know I went to help us compile it I was like god this how you [ __ ] pounds back my day I was so proud of my [ __ ] hood I was like good man right that's it was so dope yeah we're gotta be proud yeah you gotta be for oh this is these new kids from from Queensbridge right now Jay Rosie mmm so I'll just look out for him and [ __ ] uh I like his little movement there you got okay that's my people from the frag block gang well um so what's your favorite area music my favorite era it has to be like like like the Arabs president era like 80 I would say 86 to 89 or 80 86 to 88 it was some it was like some specialist who's like special albums came out at that time it just shifted yeah it was definitely a shift in the hip-hop it was it was a shift it was more sample heavy because I haven't taught anybody like how to make records right lyrically a change yeah everybody got better you know what I'm saying yeah people digging digging for [ __ ] they you know yo you use that I'm gonna use this you giving them saying that was such a great time right there there probably I'd never be like that ever again mmm for the music it that was such a pinnacle point of everything we love and it won't go away you know how much I'm working right now around the world DJ and just playing that [ __ ] right play no but talking about that era what did you guys think about what was going on the west coast at that exact same time me and NWA and all of them coming up I remember the first time I ever heard a [ __ ] NWA record ice-t was already out too and I think it was the first compilation they put when they all was standing standing in behind it it was like a NWA album and they all was standing behind some warehouse what the feel of fresh crew everybody was like what was that that was a streetcar I mean they ended up putting that out afterwards it was like NWA in the family or some like right anybody in the posse yeah i remember when i first heard [ __ ] affiliate craig g put me up on them Craig she was like now I'm a god I make records I'm on a radio I'm already making hit records what and we're not cursing this [ __ ] but when I heard these [ __ ] the [ __ ] I was like this is some crazy [ __ ] right here I knew because every every other rapper was to clean the MorphOS like man [ __ ] y'all [ __ ] everything [ __ ] this [ __ ] your mother ice-t come before though yeah okay ice-t was already a nice game the ice-t was out but he wasn't as well as them at that time okay I mean he was doing his thing I think what caught me with them was they beats mm-hmm I wasn't into the earlier iced tea because of the music wasn't it wasn't kind of like where we was at Connor it was like one of West Coast vibe so I kind of kind of missed it a little so his Dre's production Dre's production yeah he was leave his drums crazy looping Beatson chopping [ __ ] had bad [ __ ] playing guitar - [ __ ] I was like god damn these [ __ ] is saying something who was the [ __ ] to me well I was stuck I was like you when I first heard this [ __ ] I was like man [ __ ] is doing doing it and I realized I realized how regional rap was gonna be at that point because we could have cared less what they was talking about me but out there they kid less what they was talking about they could have cared less but what the [ __ ] we was talking about because they had their own language and that's what I seen you happen to read I'll go to different countries you know this [ __ ] people rapping in every [ __ ] everybody possible Yeah right now you're gonna say I'm I'll go it's always some open up MC or DJ for me whenever I go to any country or whatever they rappin in a language and I'm seeing a progression all over the world and every part of every part of the world every corner yeah I'm geppu said and I would have never thought it would be like that sitting in my Queensbridge apartment making [ __ ] I would never thought it would be like that that's crazy that's [ __ ] beautiful thing man hip-hop scene pop saves lives so how did you link back up well like ll cuz you wasn't with him in the beginning right in the beginning we was large rivals before a bride who's going active we make we made beat by it remember that's why he says trying to take oh we got mad because you know the rock the browser remix sounds like Molly's friends so easily know young didn't give a [ __ ] going you know I'm saying but then you know later on you know ll from Queens well I said yo the funny [ __ ] about l would meet is my aunt my father's sister raised his wife or like my father sister was I'm Simone's mom's when she was alive her best friend and Simone's mom passed and my my aunt was like yo my best friend gonna take care of you I'm gonna Baba and I never knew that Wow and later on in life me ll kind of found that a that's why we got kind of tight well he's talking about he said oh you know Oh Peggy Bubba I said y'all got on Peggy's seven degrees of separation yeah it's crazy it was crazy because it said something about Aunt Peggy one day I was like I was joking but joking me is the same same person and and you know and you know she's 30 she's used to work with his family even as the kids was growing up and you know we never we never knew that that that was that close Wow yeah that's that wasn't it's my father's sister you know she lived in Jamaica I lived in Queens bridge how do you know I didn't know that that's what she was doing but it was it's weird so yeah after that then musically we got together it was insane you know what I'm saying and you know we just went out to which one was it the whole album mmm the whole album every every gravy record which album was this and that was going at home come on Dino I took till the break of dawn was actually going at kool Moe Dee ice-t and everybody's gonna pour hammer I feel bad from now yeah we came back at that yeah everybody was going at him but yeah a lot of people was mad at him because he made a lot of paper yeah so you know that's a good thing and it wasn't considered real hip-hop well he was you know it's that was the beginning of that that should've let everybody see what records they should be making because that's where I went anyway everybody everybody went pop that's where hip hop is that right now yeah exactly what Hamlin was doing is what mumbles rappers right now you know it's in the same place right I go I go to a future concert before I was like sending myself 20 years ago this would have been a rock concert yeah the same people in the audience the same people want somebody show this the same blah blah blah I'm seeing anybody out there I'm like 20 years ago this would have been a rock concert so I see how rap took that spot alright so that's how hamish it was back in the day this [ __ ] was a rock concert you know before they was doing it right you know he had hundreds of people's on stage dancing it was like a big production yes that's a rock concert yeah you know and that's what these you know yeah I want the future show well hour and a half [ __ ] was losing a mind straight to every record he's just doing half of verses and every crowd doing the rest but yo that was one of the most intense times I ever seen I'm a fan yes why can't hey hey kids man but as a producer you think you could contribute to that or would you stick to not everything your Leary event my wheel you wouldn't I wouldn't okay okay I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't do it and I feel like there's room now it is for everybody to be in their own life anything I was I would do more damage to some media really yeah something like that as opposed to you know trap I didn't expect that yeah what do ya know dude before I started making hip hop I was making electronic music anyway that's why I had the edge over everybody because I was already tech savvy I was working with off the bacon dude come on man they was making AEIOU Planet Rock all these electronic beats and and you know a eio user sample I was a I was an intern watching you do it so what I did is I saw what they was doing with these vocals inputting vocal samples I'm like y'all could put hip-hop in that [ __ ] I could put my favorite snare and play it to a beat while nobody knows what the [ __ ] was going on that's why I was able to add the head joint everybody because I worked out unique studios and they was ahead of heavy [ __ ] body unique studios in my head yeah okay yeah there was a head of everyone [ __ ] I like technology-wise 47th Street yeah 47th Street said I was an intern that's why I started out that's what I said well my first that's why I discovered sampling well unique studio had unique cuz I was doing something else and the snare was one tragedy brought us there for more report album right so I was I was playing I was sampling something else in the snare when I start playing snare with the B I say alternates that [ __ ] snare down I playing my [ __ ] and I started thinking I was like oh [ __ ] I could take any kick any snap from any hot record I got home down that's proven already and make beats all the favorite break beats to everybody will go crazy to impeach the president was the hottest record for any DJ to play for years you know put that [ __ ] on a record every record that I have a sample those drums were it was a hit every record that we used that was it hit because your brain likes it already mmm it's a science it's like the music that's out why you think every beat sounds the same because your plant likes it over yeah yeah yeah that's for sure the same drums even the vocals the melodies right there because your brain likes it already it's like this you know what it's almost like a chef if he knows what you like he could add those ingredients to everything he cooks for you you gonna [ __ ] love everything he does it's a science like me right I got friends his name's Scott Storch right Scott Storch at one time was one of the hottest producers have seen him literally be outside with a cheese line outside his door you at one point well the only [ __ ] you had that he wanted a hit record you had this SEMA I imagine your cheese lines was crazy yes well no no no this is approximate the people that came in my house bro you'd be so surprised you know it was crazy to this day you still like working your house like you got your own studio that worked for you your whole life while watching yeah you know it was a point where I could have bought a big multi-million dollar mansion or an SSL but I wanted the kid I want forget the SSL that's always there so you have that in the crib not no more oh that but that was probably one of the first people to get what it has to sell in area because I felt it was gonna make money back yeah I'm into me I'm buying all gold chains and people don't know that's the big mixing boards yeah yeah yeah probably having a big so I was always into buying equipment because I knew it was it was like it's like drug money my god I got a real well I'm gonna do to get better money I gotta get better equipment well I gotta get the best [ __ ] on the block all right so instead of buying frivolous stuff I would know how much in demand demand you were like I remember like I swear to God I was young and I remember it like I knew if you had a hit record you need it had to be produced by Baltimore know like how crazy was it it was insane I mean I wasn't doing mixes for prints shaaka whoa Dave's coming out there's coming at me whoo all over um one time even wanted me to produce The Beastie Boys oh that would be crazy that would have been crazy but I was kind of like oh I kind of like want to save the culture for what it was I never thought that I mean I dug them but I don't think that they was what I was doing mmm if you know what I mean mmm you know I had ruff ruff fast [ __ ] on the beats right we wasn't joking all right so you know it probably would have been different I think it would have been doh well I woulda gave him a hoppy I think what I did what they did yeah now I see it but back then I didn't see ya I got antsy I was trying to you know keep keep rap hard you keep it true than what it was cause it seemed they were clowning hypoxic or yeah I guess that's what yeah but you know they did they think God you know God listed the one that passed yeah but you know they did they think but I believe that I didn't I didn't produce them because I thought they was clowning what we was doing I mean I didn't see that that little culture to look that that would be the suburbs way in you know what I mean I didn't I didn't catch that you use anything you regret I regret not producing Michael Jackson you had the opportunity no I regret not patrolling not good oh yes that's what i regretting that because yeah you set us up bad reapers now you set us up bad all about heart oh all my favorite group guy who a God God God was my favorite group all gonna day I don't know why guy was one of my favorite groups but you have you got a chance to work with W and you and you did now I wish I wish I would have heard their excel tell a story is only right and we want to talk about the story with the the phrasing of New Jack Swing you know a lot of people think that Teddy Riley kind of invented New Jack Swing but Mia Heavy D was making records and he was always talking about his news now he stole we told my his swing beats I could see my swing beats my swing beats my swing beat that's before Teddy Raleigh even got cowboy uptown right if you know what I mean so he's talking about his swing beats so somebody put new jack on the beginning of the swing beats and now they they formed a whole new way of making music but it's the formula may Heavy D started so up you know I was already out of town earlier in the game mmm make his swing beats for Heavy D see people collide but the timeline doesn't lie on records go back to the early Heavy D records with me before uptown was New Jack Swing he's talking about his swing beats that I produced but what specifically make something New Jack Swing it's just it was it was a it was a timing it's like one to want to want to see that's the New Jack Swing regular was one two one two that's like crackhead music basically I got a thing crackheads used to dance good that you jack [Laughter] to say that I want to say how much cocaine crack effect because that was that was that's when they did VIN right right like all the records about kragle all it is about that error so how how much was that affected you like lucky like me I mean lucky for me I mean I thank God for this day one day I tried crack it didn't work wait what yeah it work yeah if I was getting high and we use a hole in them in the place a check it out so the glass may be high air in it so air came in instead of crack and I like oh man is wack y'all do that give me the we hear them saying back that time so God saved my life but by making the air come through nothing because I see too many people that the air in come to they're not the same how many people you see get hot olive oil stow it out there I seen superstar artists get em up in there and I'm like okay I'm okay Rick James house I'm not gonna lie i mighta got weak James my [ __ ] i mighta four [Applause] [ __ ] yeah what Saturday one time with um with mr. mr. p-funk his self yours clear George Clinton he's like yeah we going to pray he does everything but not one day I was like we pray he said we going to pray okay I don't know what that means it sounds scary with us what's going the room and pray they talking about praying you know they was doing a thing and I was tempted I was like then this is like this will go down tomorrow it's like a bucket list that's like a hit with this mother right we're gonna do anybody that dude I took a [ __ ] hit with him you know it would have been a book in this I didn't do it but I was really thinking about it well is he dropping acid not it was peers or whatever I was tempted to do it was just so I could say in my mind hmm not Bill George that's all that wasn't you know I was tempted but it they never right because I was like Tom yeah like they like like that was like the first like drug epidemic era like you got the scene you got to see hip-hop go from happy to dinner you start to hear these records maybe I was one of the reason I had to lead her to mmm it became like like at night it was like night night living baseheads lion living because like now we used to crack heads but this is the original crack head is the Reagan era yeah when the block block was dark and you see people just walking like zombies cuz I'm 40 I'll be 41 this year and I remember cocaine was like a classic drug and then crack actually at first was like the cool just the cheap way to getting coke into the it was a cheap way and then like so you remember like the cocaine era as opposed to the crack era like okay [ __ ] over there they over there [Applause] he has Carlito cousin why cousin Carlito Boris and Kindle we've been trying to tell you for years Boris is down [Applause] slippers is down with your boy let me find out you know that's why you swayed like that a lot man I'm just telling you gotta pay attention to your breath I'm just doing it okay in a cookie remember because in a cocaine era I wasn't really famous yet okay I'll still planning in Smitty's after-hours glove oh okay Queens breeze I saw this would be after-hours the number spot man arm it's not cheat Gordon appalled by the pub was down the street okay is it the block the competition okay you know in a cocaine era I should be like a DJ in clubs mmm and then once I started getting famous then that the climate started changing a little crack started coming out then the wolves there's no smoking you get what I'm saying so and the baddest chick on it on your block that never gave you no ass was giving out ass but nothing that's that changed it what's a woolly that's like a dirty that's a dirty okay that's a dirty you wanna subscribe to people with dirtiest to the people I mean has could tell us better dirty he just knew the more you're displa Jubilee is given why you're justifying smoking and smoking powder oh that's yella yes mother poverty Rowley and powder in Miami okay actually smoking a dirt yes was dirty okay but in New York a wall was weed and correct exact can we make my eyes bleed yes see matter we didn't go that's wait wait this is a real goal this week we sit back and we yes there was a whole era of that mmm it was a whole error hmm and you know it was rapid you know what to be honest what I was seeing everybody to get high I had to get away from that that's why I moved upstate that's what I moved to where I move I've got water would you update yeah you know that's why I moved it I went to get away from everybody getting high it was like too much for me Wow [ __ ] thought they could just come to my house well you know it's I had the studio is just show up and think you're gonna come in and start getting high let me just describe let me just get the glass pipes correct cuz this has got to be looking crazy that sort of smoking crack yeah we talked about hitting first okay Emily was crack came in it got a little got a little crazy won't focus just thought they could just you know it was like it was like recreational well we still was making hits and still kangaroo bring out the Sun in this [ __ ] what's the hit that was me Oh crack cocaine you know that was around we need to know great chance we love just say no I could tell you one of the artists came to my house sniff so much coke I found him in the back from his brother [ __ ] out you went to the hospital and got an operation I just leave it it no record was like I'll leave it as that and it's one of your favorite artists Oh [Music] baby starts like a bone - it's like a child's like a boy I took a piece in that you know that famous freestyle is Cain jay-z I think parks in it were you there I'm not that wet Brooklyn at freestyle - it was crazy yeah that was crazy mr. C actually he recorded that that's his record that's his recording right he was we can record that live right he recorded a live and threw on the beat for them and you know that's another history-making moment right there you know who would think that mr. C would even discover Big E if you know what I mean that's like it that's part of the tree - part of your tree of course yeah of course you know and you know Big E was incredible Big E was one of the dopest dopest rappers that could cling on a beat better than anybody I mean I'd do magic with other artists to make them be on a B hey biggie shots you're oh of course I'm called an IV I didn't know what that meant when he first did it I didn't know that thirty years later it would still mean some but that was gonna mean you know what it would mean because that put me into a whole nother generation and the record just keeps playing anyway it plays every day somewhere and you know people may not have known about my production or what I've done for hip-hop art who I brought out or who I discovered or nothing they just no biggie mention my name on the record and they keep hearing so I didn't know the significance of that I kind of slept on it at first oh he's old [ __ ] he said my name that's cool ba ba ba but where he says it yeah Mali more classic it's kind of like Jaffe [ __ ] on a bridge chappy Jack Zini you know I'm say it's like at a pinnacle point here and I didn't know the significance of biggie shouting me out on that record how important it would be to me and I didn't really realize the tree that the connection through mr. C right daddy came here juice crew biggie you what I'm saying is oh it's almost like that if I didn't meet if I didn't meet mr. Siegel would there be [Music] because mr. see put cane cane put big see what canes DJ yeah right so then and then that led to that gave me you know that gave him clout so you know would they have been what we don't know I mean there's possibly a lot of people you don't know that got inspired off of everything you did that you may not know I'm direct but you want direct yeah direct lady at rectory tree there any artists that ever um came to you that you fronted on like you you didn't see that there was a star and then later on became a star he was like damn I [ __ ] up you know what's funny I'm glad you say that because jay-z nah don't say Jason used to be working all the time mmm-hmm you know what I mean mmm so I did a remix with with um shy and Jay Z so Jay Z was up at my house right so Jay Z came in the crib just like when I you know I thought I was doing my first time meeting him and that's what's up nice to meet you Bob well I wanted to go like this I'm what era of jay-z's is a Hawaiian so this is um this is just would have started leaked just want to start upon I did already rocket League just just moon Rockefeller started rocking and he was able to get he was able to hire him to get all right you know what I'm saying it's like just just when it was coming up maybe 95 like the dead press record is around that time so he comes to the crib right I said oh nice to meet you Bob I said yo man you met me before man I've been here before I stood right here when Kane was doing so so so and so that's just [ __ ] me up well that's it [ __ ] me up that came was at the Curt I mean that that Jay Jay Z was at the crib we came for maybe young gifted a black ass on one joints you know what I mean so I would like to known that he was a rapper then yeah but I didn't know but that's Mike one of those stories like I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't miss that boat if I knew he was a rapper mmm okay so I don't want to ask you who's your favorite artist god no I want to actually who's you your favorite hip-hop artist who's your favorite hands-down number one overall if you had to pick one artist just one full package artists full package just one whether it's to work with or whether is to listen to yeah let's go back to that one thing about who's my all-time little overall artist who got it right I mean to be honest we open a lot of doors for me production-wise and it was more than just making a beat for somebody to rhyme one could have been caned mmm you know cuz I seen the whole form into what it was he's doing hardcore [ __ ] first and then the ladies started liking and the female started liking him and then it just switched he started you know it changed into something different and I so you know and it made me grow as a producer but you know Kayne change he changed me as a producer because before that I was just giving people whatever I want them to have mmm with the Juice Crew here I made it be yet you got that [ __ ] ho Shante you could get that oh you can have that you got that Kang was different so you saying right now if God said listen tomorrow you're gonna be straight for the rest of your life you got one beat to produce for one artist I already know what had to be right now who would there be talk hello goddammit make some noise [Applause] make some noise Sam you know but cigar say listen this is the last beat you can make in the world you gonna be straight for the rest of your life well well well he did that already this is it and you get one lap and you will give it to you we'll give it to our yeah that kind of happened I think you won't believe how we living off that song wow you don't believe it's good well it's gonna be on the chase it's gonna be on chase commercial for the next few months right - well you know that pool - working on the soundtrack for Deadpool 3 possibly come on bro you know believe we're that that little angle got me it's really different it's a beautiful day it's beautiful beautiful beautiful hey Parsons nice hip hop save laughs hey pop say is it is there anything you will want to do like you feel like you got left in the game um the game could be the game the game for me the game is lame I'm doing something different all right the game is like okay yeah you know what I would like to do any music supervisors checking this out I'm you know I'm gonna I wanna score movies you know I scored like a few scenes for Biggie's movie right as you could sell you know they had add me and mr. me they they let me actually do it even in pots movie I had like a scene or two that we did it for so I would rather get into doing scenes for movies and making stuff for movies and theatrical or something like that I mean the music is good I'm good with the pub pub right now I publish the pub is good okay I mean the pub that I mean my earlier records don't really make pub but you know the popular ones do and it's pretty good it's good it's like we don't have 401k in hip-hop right but if you got [ __ ] we need but it's beyond you sure that's a publishing is that you publishing is that if you get a good record and you'd be surprised yeah it's very close it's almost you know it's crazy because the beyond is if Kanye didn't do that and I not pub it'd be a whole different story mmm if you understand what I'm saying it's different story pop is important anybody out there even wanting to make records make hit records okay tomorrow we got a tick off shot Tiger bonus is a traditional go oh Jesus you know on the show yeah sorry I feel like this is the second quarter do it it was so terrible I've wished cuz Tiger doesn't that go with the one doesn't go anything though it doesn't go with the one yeah yeah appreciate you have me I think it was well over dude okay you know yeah I seen a lot of you know it's a lot of misconceptions about Marley Marl out there no way yes for years I've been letting people Yap it's all yeah so required dude sitting in the back yeah we just watching it but we got was one of the misconceptions of Marty more did you think that happens out here I'm one of the misconceptions cuz what everybody always thought you look you own cold chillin yeah I said now anything that buzz-buzz was cold chillin blame like they always blamed the misconception is any artist that ever said Oh Molly didn't make that record and then they went on to do records later and it never sound like what we did together that's all I can say mmm I suppose [Laughter] [Applause] I don't like it I'll never get you I like it I like it oh that's good oh my god that's that OGC [Applause] yeah I never get used to ha that's your [ __ ] put a flame right here come out oh my god so how was it being in the game back then you know um you guys cuz the people before you the melly-mel yes I'm not but you can see yourself a golf ball though because the father but but the pioneers is the guys that came to America first and I slaughtered the Indians oh damn we'd have to do behind her they came already so the architect is maybe a better market right there you because this was like you said like you guys were the first like um he's in private jets and right showing like that as opposed to other people who are all this before who was like they didn't really they said they they didn't make money I know and it was like this is look good though they look like you guys your era you guys are the Arctic architects of modern hip-hop what became modernist yeah I feel like that hundred percent cuz you right no dancing [ __ ] at Teterboro until we go right right right that's that's the real talk that's real and for those of y'all know what Teterboro is that's the primary airport yes you know it's the clear port a clear wood yes clear Boyd mm-hmm no that means so you know we opened that up Derek I feel like you wouldn't come over here brother my cousin Derek he's a legend man you and your legend Molly I'm going to tell you my we have right to give our legends they flowers cause so many people like we want to give these people they flowers when they can smell them they trees when they can tell them they thought so when they could dig them and they drinks where they can drink them so many people want to celebrate a hip-hop legend and I look at it that's like you know what these people need a flowers what I hear you know okay this is the reason why we give up the love when I'm alive don't wait for me to die say I was the greatest yeah yes you're welcome to any doing it don't wait today so you come in with your movie or your book first cuz I got looking fuse what I'm working on the book to become the movie let me just uh she's gonna be real is the Jew is it did you screw that should you usually come with first I'm gonna be honest that's ill that's the story did the Jews cool like I'm just telling you it's that introduces the Jews crew movie might make more sense that and wu-tang optimal like like that's gonna mess with NWA because you know why everybody's still here right the movies that were the people that still here is always gonna be the best movies that's why I would say you know you know go to that and then that introduces the mall tomorrow I don't know I'm just I'm just a real fan like this is real fan of the fan mold you know what I wanted to do yeah I want to do my perspective of what I the way I seen everything but your movie could because Jews could write it could be you I want my movie to be through my eyes why everything was happening what I was thinking what I was seeing what I was saying what everything meant like you but you did anybody you're the first visit daddy you're the first you know first uh everybody who like has ready the first one tank type of that [ __ ] that [ __ ] came from you like I'm proud and I'm from Queens you understand because and I'm proud of that so you gotta capture that [ __ ] Quincy I think in a lot I'm gonna be honest we live in so much of a dumb era then I don't know if you shouldn't drop the book first the movie might have to come first because they because they medium just tell you that's true these [ __ ] all these [ __ ] is because these dumb in this generation audio-visual because these [ __ ] is like Marley they're gonna be like there I go for I don't want to drop a book right now I know but [ __ ] this dumb the biggest a problem me no I'm just throwing it out there I would say book first to make it make sure it's complete and right yeah because you gotta answer the Shante you gonna go right with that much I'm just telling you that it's easier to I got faith in me you got baby into you or the [ __ ] there [ __ ] with us [ __ ] that [ __ ] what does is not very smart I like [Laughter] I knew exactly who they are yeah I'm sorry I went too far I went up there so you've done everything what do you think about other are the producers like when who was the first person that you saw like that you said Dan he took my blueprint but in a good way like you know like like the the next say I'm premiere per man he's a premiere cuz he personally told me say yo nobody beats the biz was kind of like my blueprint because you scratched you cut a hook from different parts you got I'm saying I took different parts and was cut and I cut the hook yeah and he's like that was my blueprint oh you know and then other than that was he cut the samples like the sample size right right he would scratch the samples up to make the hook and you know he said he first heard that on nobody beats the biz and I'm like okay that's it that's a big honor secondly I would say um P Rock mm I mean Pete Rock I mean the the way he took sampling on on the drum machine and equipment that he was using was incredible and then things he was able to do all for those little five seven seconds okay it became incredible by speeding the record up putting it in fast and then slowing it down getting more sample time I never thought of that that's almost as dope as flash with the backspin oh three revolutions for you know 311 revolutions forward 311 revolutions backwards that's genius instead of picking in either well yeah and and and recording it fast and small sampling time and then slowing it down that's genius right there nobody gives them as credit for that the last record you could produce that you you could be a part of that you you're not gonna produce you got one producer too high hulis moly mom get to do this the last beat you you were mixed it or Kanye yeah [ __ ] are you he's dope you know what you got you can't you got to overlook like the last year that's dope oh but but you know this production and and what he did with sampling and then started pitching things up he took that [ __ ] out of this world from what I started if you know what I mean I brought it here he brought it [ __ ] here wait what were you talking about their food their food so what did you just say Kanye will be that person that makes that last final record for me if it was ever to be made Wow I would let them do it and now mix it down so in this in this new generation who is the person that you will work with in a new generation I [ __ ] with future future quick I would like to hear you with Kendricks ok York and Rococo lace j : kendrick our laced already know are not would lace oh yeah we're with them that'll be a yeah I'll [ __ ] I wanna do a CNN baby yeah you know we gotta talk about Rikers Island that's what I'm saying because um I just want I want I just want the fans to know how much of a fan I am of you and what he was doing is you know who's living in a time where I could have sampled the record right I'm not gonna still page you just from sampling a record but I didn't want to do that that I actually wanted to go back in the studio I wanted to recreate it and I had g rap I did we did every day I don't remember G back came to the crib that day or if he came later well I came I went in with you is this correct yeah yeah I was I mean we did it correctly and you know what's so weird to meet him we did a lot of records together but we didn't work together a lot and till then who know me and you okay okay you did a lot of records together like I was like remix in this for you yeah - listen this is me on my own right yep but now he came back he was like yo I got this check for you you know it's the crazy [ __ ] I gotta say before I get up out of here a lot of [ __ ] I put on [ __ ] never cut me a check when they got on [ __ ] ass [ __ ] and you know they got they got a position and they act like [ __ ] never cut me a [ __ ] check so much when I went into the research and was like yours ung rap I wanted to be homage to you both you don't say so I got in position to do such and I wanted to do it I want to do it on my own too cuz a lot of times we worked before it was through trash and I wanted you to know like I cool he was kind of limited - yeah it was he wasn't around a lot yeah and it was around no no no no I didn't even fight me through that section I'll be taking that personal for years don't worry about that Wally it's not your victim what you know a lot of my Street the Capone all the time the trash you know what's going on and um yeah man I just love the history I just love what you did tonight man you know you got a lot of people don't hear you talk a lot of people you know I'd be silent man yeah you're sounding just watching these [ __ ] buffoon a ass talkin that [ __ ] yeah but we live in a day at a time you know if if you don't actually say like if anything on camera it didn't even happen that's why I'm handling so glad y'all got this platform know what you're doing I love like so many people like I just I just think that that's a disrespect to our culture when people like you whine listen listen whine it's not good unless it ages right you understand I'm saying like we can make a wine right now that's just gonna be full of sugar it's gonna be full of whatever but let's just sit around for 10 days you know and then do that and then you get to see an age and there's no platform for that for our culture that's right so me and my mom my friend right here we saw here and said you know what let's just and we're gonna do it like that we want to salute our legends we want to salute the people that who has been seasoned who's been here for 20 years and still attested times yesterday and every other culture in the world salutes their legends at this time and at this point right why the [ __ ] are we the only culture that says ok you gotta be sixteen years old like y'all got y'all [ __ ] you got you know the radio stations and all that but this is our platform all right no we want us to do our [ __ ] legs you know and we don't want to do it while they come up when people is dead that's not let's do it in your face like that your own weights of cast get in the casket before you tell them what it is because you know sometimes in life to be honest I'm gonna tell you what the most disheartening thing is about the whole industry that I feel it's discredit when somebody you know you put in work you changed the game and somebody want to try to discredit what you was doing and going with it ahead and rewrite history around you you know you don't be seeing you don't be seeing me on all these award shows and all that like you should because somewhere somebody's trying to write around me that's why my story got to be told that's why I'm I appreciate you guys doing what you're doing right I appreciate this platform so now your story should be told it has to be told it's my mean um you know me just even see this is just a little rock sad thing and then me knowing I'm just saying oh it's just so it's just so much that needs to be total I'm saying everything you said to me just now I saw it visually like I literally saw it like when you said you're just the Queensbridge apartment alone just so those records like if you a hip-hop historian and you know those records that you just said and you mention it that's that alone is a movie bro no no that alone is crazy because no one will never know this you know I'm saying every everyone everyone thinks that I hit record is planned you know 16 months in advance a lot of people don't know it's just it's a sprayer in a moment of the time yeah and that was the testament of what you just said and the craziness a lot of artists don't even know why they famous and that's the truth they don't know why the [ __ ] they famous they think they put out a hot record but [ __ ] use the promotion of the month and it clicked people started to like it because the next month he wasn't a promotion of the month somebody else was and the next record didn't work the way that men do so a lot of artists don't even realize a lot of [ __ ] things because you know how record companies were we promoting this week I don't give a [ __ ] with this artist guy we come over him and you know a lot of people don't realize that they happen to be in that matrix at the minute because I've seen too many superstars try to make records not in the matrix and it doesn't work I know why exactly every record every successful record I have a made I know why it worked there's certain elements you need you need to make it work maybe that's why I won't make records now because there's certain elements you need and now it's algorithm right that too but you know a certain element you need you know artists need the ability to make people want to be them unlike them I like what he's wearing I want to wear that mm you're gonna say listen it's not just a record no more yeah it is a little more to it anybody can make a hot record but do you have the ability to make people like you do you have that energy to pull them in even if you make whack [ __ ] why do people like Drake mmm ain't the best in the world but he has an energy that pulls you in why do people like Kanye or jay-z or whoever it's not the music they have an energy that posed to people in so it's more than a music people got to realize that it's more than music there's a kind of always been more than music yeah yeah yeah you know a beautiful if you have like at anybody want to dress like and look like and we're what you were like Kwame Kwame wasn't the the illest but when you seeing Kwame with that polka dots I wouldn't got a polka dot shirt there you go how low you want that left we're definitely not is 61 that's it took it over walking so um basically that's what it is you know is there's a magic there's music and there's there's also that that energy to pull people win if you know what I mean certain certain orders have it certain people have that you know people watch this because you have that mmm you know I wanna hear what the [ __ ] that [ __ ] nor we gonna say today right there you go what I'm saying I want to hear that [ __ ] go you pulling them in y'all pulling them in right so there's a certain energy it's more than what you do is that energy to be able to pull people in because anybody could do this but you don't have to energy to make people want to look [ __ ] you that's the basic [Applause] is there anything you will want to do over say anything I would like to do over whatever I would do over yeah anything ah I would like to make kill that noise over oh damn what would you do differently oh yeah I probably would use different drums well I probably use the drums that we is winning on because they won with my drums the same way so I will probably would make kill that noise with impeach the president drums ooh the same way they did with bridges over that's what that's what I would would do if I could turn back the hands of time because recently you know me and Shannon got together we we redid the bridge and um and um kill that noise over well I'm you know for movies and stuff you know we made new masters we got back together I got the original samples that I use and weari chopped everything up and he did his vocals over Wow and and then I was sitting back with would kill that noise I and I switched the drums up I put in peace the president drums on kill that noise that [ __ ] was so [ __ ] hot I was like yo that's what I should have did in the beginning but I had so much stuff that I didn't rely on my old sound like that cuz I was moving on it but but I wish I were to use those drums don't kill that noise yeah do you feel like y'all lost that battle well I feel that people stupid as hell for believing in them because we never said that and for the record never said hip-hop you never said that hip-hop started in Queens birds right so I feel like people got bamboozled but you know so good so that was like the first trolling yeah because they they you know it's like they preyed upon people stupidness at that point all right it looked like but if it's on record it's right right they played on the stupidness over you believe in an ashy because we never City right it's like somebody yo you know somebody like somebody said you said something you know you ain't say it you know whoever get the over hand may may people may believe that [ __ ] if you don't say night now now where was your wedding you father our prodigy it's passing oh man I think I was in Japan yeah I was in Japan you know you know I'll go overseas a lot and always checked you know an Internet when I wake up and I saw it I was like yo get that because the weirdness is I had just hired him to work with the xpg a few days before a few days before he passed I think the show before he went to I think he went to Vegas Vegas show before Vegas he was with us exp G and we was taking pictures laughing joking bah-bah-bah and after they did that down with the Japan and they went to where they was going and then I saw it was like so crazy because we just took pictures would do like two days before it was crazy to me that was crazy and I felt that he won't be the last one there's more you know you know there's more people gonna pass we don't live forever and you know the good thing about you know hip-hop and being an artist is whatever you do when you're alive it lives longer than you you know we won't be anymore well people still be playing our music still talking you know we're still live after we're not here and that's the one of the benefits of being an artist and you know it was kind of sad because God just was what dude I just was when jess jess was with him like two days before everything happened well god bless them god bless family yes that's the peace prodigy yes havock still keep making them beats we need you out here yeah that's what I'm saying yeah don't let it don't let it slow you down I mean when Naz did the bridges over of the bridge I'm not as obvious cause the bridge was he had put all the artists from Queensbridge on there oh okay yeah I remember that did uh did you do to be or no he just sampled it um I think was le s I think maybe somebody else made the beat but I was on the record I was on the intro okay cool that's what happened I was I was part of that I'm not as been looking out I can't front well know what I mean we're from two different eras but you know he'd always look out right you know I'm saying always and he always show love every time I see him so you know you know like I said when the torch was passed they did a great job with it I'm saying beautiful with the music business with me I'm not thinking about it almost amore technology right now well I got technology that's gonna change the world thinking about yet you know my head is in line with music and in life I got the answer I can't share some information [Laughter] but you know we working on some technology right now well do your dig dude if I could think about putting hip hop in a goddamn machine and it changed the change hip hop I could do a lot of other things well you know I'm saying oh yeah see me personally man you know I'm on a quest to have hip hop control all aspects of media like to me I don't think that if we should wake up in the morning and we want to watch a sports show I think that sport shows to be hosted by Jadakiss no I think whenever we want to go watch a weather show that's just should be hosted by Jim Jones that's what I think we know I'm saying like yeah so I wonder that's why I'm doing this because I just feel like a hip-hop it's about time we control the oil media and what I mean by that cuz hip-hop is his own race it's not I ain't talking black/white I'm talking more hip-hop and hip-hop so this is the reason what we doing you know to me and we have enough goddamn fun doing it we want to respect people like you and continue to respect people like you let you know you got this outlet is why the [ __ ] open and this is drink chance [ __ ] pop [Applause] [Music] you got like you got one more thing you want to say not you wanna say if anybody want to get in touch with me as I'm at Marley skills okay on Instagram okay DJ Marley Marl and you know Facebook stuff you know but I'm always skills that Instagram and Twitter you know what I mean absol get at your boy [ __ ] you know what I'm saying and he investors that want to get into some real money get at me cuz I got that technology for that ass absolutely look at this sign that um non-disclosure you know we up on that but you know we did this what I do man the music the music thing is gonna be where it's gonna be that these young kids do it the [ __ ] they want to do cuz their [ __ ] yeah that's how I feel do what the [ __ ] they won't do because it's only evolution you know what I mean listen let's have a good day that's all it is and think freely that's real talk [Applause]

Channel: REVOLT

Views: 402,912

Keywords: REVOLT, TV, hip, hop, music, rap, r&b, Nas, Drink Champs, Noreaga, DJ EFN, Marley Marl, Roxanne, Rakim, Kanye West, Nore, N.O.R.E, LL Cool J, Big Daddy Kane

Id: 5U14KRSztK4

Length: 135min 14sec (8114 seconds)

Published: Fri Sep 28 2018