Lynn Wilder Former BYU Professor Testimony Of Finding Jesus -Q & A with Lynn Wilder Part 2

we have a choice on how he was going to respond to the rest of his life and it's the same with you and don't let say the win honestly what you need to do is say let's start a compassion ministry and what we're going to do just give up a billion stars you can control up you can deal with God say that I want use it to to treat me like you would treat your best friend those are real feelings that we think we gotta sound like he know all right good morning welcome to those of you that are here for our part two session in our truth matters series with lynn wilder we are talking about Mormonism today if you do not if you did not see session 1 please go back and watch that because that's her whole story so right now we have question and answers so we have lots of questions for for Lynde from the audience so we're going to just ask you questions you wanted to share something first god so profoundly changed me it but it took me five years to get straight I was wacko emotional ruined my health it's very difficult to make the transition Mormonism is an identity it's a culture it's your family off an inch of job it's 24/7 it's everything you know and it's not like going from the Methodist of the Presbyterian Church is very difficult so those of you who are witnessing to Mormons please be willing to walk with somebody that you love through some really difficult times for a long time five years in Bible studies bugging our pastor to death going to church every time the doors were open just to feel stable again about the time I began to feel stable the Holy Spirit started talking to me in prayer that I needed to write I did not want to write I just don't want to write so I proposed a book to Zondervan called Mormon Giants in the land I thought oh you know during the election they're gonna want to know about the culture of Mitt Romney and Glenn Beck the Zondervan editors looked at my proposal and I get a call from one of the she says honey we want you to write a book but not the book you pitch to us we just want to hear your family's story of course my first reaction is Lord no not my emotionalism my weakness my ignorance my stupidity my brokenness my sins not in public Lord and yet he began to give me this book unveiling grace almost as a download I knew it was his his work and not mine and I began to realize that he was at work among the Mormon people so I'm gonna read you an email that I received Saturday night this is God at work after being told to read this book called unveiling grace by a very good friend and purchasing it in September of 2015 I have finally read this book yesterday and I'm ashamed I didn't do it long before now my life is blown I'm a 41 year old woman born and raised in the Mormon religion I've had feelings of conflict and not feeling like I'm on the right path for many years yet have done nothing to change it they don't know where to go we're not telling go yesterday I started reading the New Testament as a child see how this is a thing like I have never done before and I am NOT able to put it down nor your book down I have gone through two pencils of lead an empty depend thank you Sarah PS I will be seeing you on Wednesday morning at the Bible study Nick and sherry you stand please we're so glad you're here well I think I need to move you back and I want to move you back so the people over there can see early there you go so that way they honor you yeah I just want to make sure you guys can see I want you to know the Holy Spirit is on the move with the Mormon people like this and I beg you to step in the gap between your parallel universe and theirs they are out there they're figuring out Mormonism isn't true do you know that folks are just streaming out of the church right now and they're going to atheism and agnosticism they don't know what your God can do you have to tell them I was taught Mormonism you were lesser we were green or you only had the Bible we had four books of Scripture you had a little the truth we had the fullness of the truth that's a downright lie only biblical faith and only the word has the unmitigated unadulterated truth but who knows that now I have to tell you this okay I had Christian parents I'm not sure they were saved when I was home growing up but when I left home they became so strong that my mom started Bible Study Fellowship on the south side of Indianapolis there's also a woman in here today who went to that Bible study praised by the name of water how strange God Wow people are streaming out in the need to know my Christian family didn't tell me my mom didn't come to my baptism my sister wouldn't come to my baptism but they never told me why they went shopping in Brown County that day my dad came but that makes sense though why because we don't know what to do we don't want to go because we don't want to we disagree with what you're doing as a parent but then that's the question do we go and support your marriage in the temple do it like do you seem something like do we go and do things like that even though we know it's so wrong yeah well you can sure love somebody but be bold about where you stand right why not why not I mean I am okay so the rest of when I got saved and realized that Mormonism was a saltshaker at the end of the table marching very honest precious people who wanted Jesus right off the end of the cliff instead of to salvation I was a little bit angry for a while that no one ever told me were you so afraid of breaking our relationship you were gonna March me right off the end of that table did it matter more to you how I saw you or that we had a relationship then you would at least try to have a loving conversation with me and this is something we all have to ask ourselves about people that we know and love the Bible says right you love God above all else and then we love others above ourselves well if you love if I love Lisa more than I do myself don't you think I better tell her about Jesus before there's no more opportunity and so I've dedicated the rest of my life to do everything I can do to help other people know the truth that so profoundly changed me what well let me try to articulate this change I did not know I was in bondage until I got free mm-hmm I now rest in Jesus my life used to be this durable wheel of works constantly go and my brain raced all the time and I couldn't sleep nights and I had to make lists and you know I also had a schedule and I got irritated if I got off schedule because I had to control everything I know my Lord Jesus I wake up in the morning I acknowledge Jesus I surrender the day to him I allow him to bring things to me and he does believe me if you're available and you're willing he does it's a very different way to live to rest in Jesus when I was rebaptised after Mormonism I felt like I actually couldn't sleep day and night for about three days and felt like I needed to be rebaptised and on and so I was but I we did it outside in living water because the Bible had been so amazing to me that living in water and when I came up out of the water God gave me this visual of you know when Christmas story Marley is bound with all those chains God gave me this visual of myself bound in all these chains and when I came up out of the water they burst and it was one of the most profound experiences of my life I am free I am grateful to be free and I want others to be free in Jesus you know it's interesting Nabeel Qureshi when he's talks about Islam we talked about this in Bible estate a couple weeks ago how he said no one ever shared Jesus with me and he said I finally came to the conclusion that either Christians don't care that I go to hell I mean and that that is what I'm like or they really honestly don't believe that Jesus is the only way to God so there's a disconnect somewhere so we have to but I think most of it and even for me I have a whole side of my family that are Mormons and the hardest part to me is I don't know what to say to them I they're so you know they're the temple recommend and they're they're so busy working and and they just look at me like I'm crazy and I don't know how to reach them I think that's what most of these questions are is where do I begin like what our first question here was how do you reason with a Mormon who is professionally successful and by all accounts has his life in perfect order absent crisis and absent God's intervention and it's what you said they believe that God is blessing them but how do you reach somebody like that well I'm gonna I'm gonna start in this place first you have to love them and you have to pray for them and I highly recommend this prayer you know how the Bible says God is always at his work 24/7 doesn't have body of flesh and bones like the Mormon God he doesn't have to eat and sleep and he doesn't need to have sex he's always at his work what's his work his work is drawing people to Jesus God is always softening someone's heart he's always drawing someone to Jesus and guess what a lot of those people are right within your sphere of influence they're people that you already know only you can't see spiritually so you don't know God's working with them we took a Bible study one time called experiencing God by Henry Blackaby and it says in there ask God to show you who he's already working with around you right I'm a new Christian Mike and I are in this Bible study these nice little Christians trying to disciple us they're coming over Monday nights and we're doing this Bible study Bible study says you need to pray this prayer so we all pray this prayer I don't know how big this new God is I don't know what he can do and I don't expect him to answer that prayer I'm going to work the next morning professor at Florida Gulf Coast University in Fort Myers Florida now I go down this hall and one of my colleagues says hey you come here I dreamed about you last night my brain immediately goes I'm sure this has something to do with the prayer that I prayed last night but I'll see what she has to say right I go in and I sit down this is my dream she said it was so amazing to me she said you and I went to Washington DC and you were leading a tour group she says to me and this weird voice in my head kept saying see her what she says you need to hear and where she goes you need to go and she said up I'm running to try to keep up with you and I can't keep up with you so I hail a cab and I say to the cab drivers see that lady over there what she says I need to hear where she goes I need to go so she said the cab pulls up right next to you and I try to get out and the doors won't open and I'm beating against the inside of this cab screaming what she says I need to hear and where she goes I need to go and I woke up what do you think about that dream nothing your dream honest I got up and I walked out you know it went down to my own office I go home from work that day and I say to Mike I tell him this weird story and I say do you think you had anything to do with her oh I'm sure it had nothing to do with our brain that's not right three days later she comes kind of marching down to my office slams the door sits down in a chair in front of me looks eye to eye and says I don't think you understand I've been praying about a personal relationship with Jesus and I think he's sending me to you it's like hit me over the head with it I don't know how do we man July's anybody I'm a new Christian I've never done this before so I'm like okay I'll ask her some question so like did you ever go to church before do you know anything about Jesus have you ever read the Bible this is what she says to me I'd look I had worked with this woman for years so I kind of knew where on the surface but I didn't know anything personal about her she says to me well 10 years ago when I was in law school in Europe I joined the Mormon Church this is Fort Myers Florida only God would have known that I could work side by side with her professionally for another 20 years and never known that and yet he was drawing her to Jesus and she needed somebody who could help her sort truth from Mormonism Mike and I walked with she her husband for about a year and a half they decided they were comfortable in this Nazarene Church they got plugged in there Assembly of God churches years later and they're due and she's doing great he's still struggling sometimes these grew up Catholic God is working with people around you and if you're willing to step into it just a prayer like that might be helpful I can't promise he'll always do something that crazy but he does bring me people that's a great point to know for for this person it's like all right start praying God what you got to open the door so I'll not be your relatives yet they may be 10 years down the road but only God knows those things right our job is just to plant the word plant the word tell people what our Jesus is like who he is one girl wrote me and she said this I'm a nurse who sees folks in their homes it's my mission field I pray that Satan stays out of my way I'm usually with each client about 30 to 45 minutes she said I love my work in my mission but since she moved here she said I've noticed there's lots of LDS folks and she said I don't want to debate any of them nor do I want to take a chance in losing my job but rather give them a couple of questions that would give them something to ponder about their faith versus what Jesus says could you ask Lynn Wilde what a few of these thoughtful questions might be well I don't know if you're allowed to sprinkle God throughout your conversation but every Christian should be Oh amazing I was praying about this the other day and this happened right or I was reading in the word this morning you guys believe the Bible right sorry I was reading in the Bible this morning and I read this and it just really touched me why would that be offensive right that doesn't hit against Mormonism you don't have to know somebody's out of Islam or you don't necessarily have to know about their culture or about Mormonism or where they're coming from you just have to know how to offer your Jesus because they don't know what you know they don't have what you have they need what you need so something simple like who is Jesus to you that's certainly one you could stew on for a while right yeah yeah perfect okay what was it about the Mormons at your door that converted you to like what was it like they come to the door they take like what was it that just like was like oh yeah I think we'll believe this they're loving and they take you in like family and I had a wonderful biological family but they almost immediately supplanted my biological family very very very good and especially if someone's having a hard time if there's been a death in the family my boys when they went on their missions said that they were taught to go through the paper and the obituaries and actually go visit the homes and then you could bring the message that you can see your loved one again if you join the Mormon Church and become a forever family Micah after he got saved said he was so convicted about what he'd done he literally went back to all the people that he had converted to Mormonism oh listen hard to told them I don't think he you know it was wrong I'm sorry and many of those have come too oh that's awesome you have kind of an awesome son is a Mormon prophet a human being or just a voice when he makes mistakes they'll say he's a human being okay yeah but what does he do he tells he sets the tone for the whole Mormon Church can he go back and because I know they they they've changed doctrine a lot it seems like is he the one that changes doctrine he and the other 14-minute that they're 15 men at the top there's a prophet he has two counselors and the 12 apostles those 15 men organizationally run the church make the decisions receive the revelations they're called prophets seers and Revelator's the Mormon God changes and they're proud of the fact he changes he updates with the times so that that is something you can talk about how amazing your God is how he knows all things from the beginning he knows everything you know he knows who is she borrow all those kind of things right and he's big enough to blow his nostrils and his enemies are gone yeah yeah did Micah tell the pastor the challenge him that helps you become a Christian years later he did they actually connected just a couple of years ago that pastor now is a church around Chicago and yes yes he's a dear friend of ours I've met him once okay did your whole family become Christians all my family left the Mormon Church three of our four kids are in ministering okay yeah that's awesome now Adams Road they go on the road they sing and play music and tell their testimony share the gospel from works - great okay from works - grace it's a universal message from works - grace so the unveiling grace book just telling that story from works - grace we've had Muslim comforts we've had folks out of Catholicism or seventh-day Adventism or wherever they felt like they were more dedicated to the legalism rather than a relationship with Jesus and that's a huge message even within the church I didn't get to the slide oh they actually have slides up again maybe I can find it there was a Pew study done the antidote is the Word of God amen here's the Pew study look at this this should rock you these are Christians in the US Christian Church 36% of Christians say that God alone is needed 62% say you have to do good deeds in order to get into heaven so here's Catholicism only 17% of Catholics say that you're saved by grace saved alone by Jesus 81% say it's good works see that but look even in evangelicals I mean we're the ones who have more faith in God alone right as far as the study but still a lot of us still think we have to do works and so that works - grace message in the book on bail and grace is huge even for Christians who need to get rid of those chains and let go of that burden and rest in Jesus and let him bring the work and the people that you've Angela what is wrong is it that are the churches not telling us what it's like you said you grew up in the Presbyterian Church never even knew you needed a relationship with Jesus no can we turn the lit up a little bit I don't know why we can't hear her and I'm Way too loud we know that is me okay try turning okay but what is wrong with our churches are they are we what is the message or we are we just going to culturally now and and we're not telling the truth I don't know what's going on you know I don't know anything about organized religion and I don't worry about it I when we bring folks to faith we bring them to a knowledge of who God is how big is that the Bible is reliable that's a huge thing we have to deal with when people come to faith there's all those evidence as I was talking about right so once they get solid it's about a relationship with Jesus and then knowing his word because truth matters what His Word says is how you're supposed to live your life and sometimes even when people come out of Mormonism they've always had an allegiance to the Mormon prophet so then they think okay if this church isn't true I'm gonna have to find the one that is true and then the pastor takes over that allegiance position almost like a pope and then as soon as he does something wrong you're done with religion people have to be connected to the Lord Jesus Christ he's the one you have to walk with one of the things God did with me in transition was all my Mormon friends went away 30 years of friends I didn't know anybody and I only had one place to go and so for five years I was going this place until I got really solid with this place and that's where yeah I think so too but I think it goes back to you know I was listening to I don't know if it was Nabil or David would and he was they were talking about how most even for Islam like you have Islam neighbors and nobody will ever Muslim neighbors you'll never no one ever asks them to come over and visit and he said how in the world can we ever share the gospel if we don't get to know someone and and but it's very intimidating because you opium Orman comes in and you're just like well what if they say something and I don't have the answer and and there's all those those crazy thoughts so I think most of us just say you know I should call my cousin's and go to lunch with them but I'm just yeah well what I did do is like sent him your book but that didn't work because I'm kind of apparently a baby but but you know they don't because they're taught not to read things is that correct because they one of them sent it back and said here's my testimony here's my so tell me what what that means they're telling us you had a testimony only the only way I would use the book on baleine Grise with a really strong mormon who's not questioning their faith and I've done this a number of times is they just be really humble and say I used to be a Mormon I wrote this book it's got a lot of Mormonism in it will you read it and tell me if this is accurate does this seem to accurately reflect what your church believes because I don't want to be out there saying something that isn't oh that's good and so literally then again remember I said respect putting them in the driver's seat so that they're the one that does the questioning so then literally I had a stake president one time read the book and he wrote in the margins and he got back to me and he would say well on page so-and-so I wouldn't have said it quite like that but basically seemed fairly accurate you know so you kind of have to meet people where they are like halted in their own culture and so it's a wonderful book for folks who are questioning their faith or who are ready to think about Jesus but it does take a little while to get to that point well you said it took you a long time to get to that point even when like when the minute Micah came home you're just like what is wrong with this whole thing yeah and it takes it takes Mormons a long time I understand why they become agnostics or atheists because all of their life they pour it into something they thought was truth and then they found out it's not it's like then they wonder what is truth it's just not worth it anymore well here's the other part of that least that they think they have the same God as you yeah so if you don't tell them when they decide their God as impotent and he's done all kinds of silly things and he can't really do anything powerful they never think to come to you if they think you've got the same God so let's talk about that God the Father is not like free is a man from another planet plantus how's that planet who's worked his way to become a goddess a correct a created being right who was born at one point as a spirit child heavenly father heavenly mother have celestial sex they have bodies of flesh and bone but their children are spirits they wait in the pre-existence to be born physically on the earth so that they can begin their eternal progression and for a man eventually to godhood that's all part of the system and that's how God did it and then he earned his godhood thank so with Jesus he earned his godhood so that's why John 1:1 he was gone from the beginning no you're under God that at one point so so to them Jesus and everything I've been reading Jesus is kind of like the older brother like well you just need to try to immerse born okay so that's okay it's just so completely it's just such a different Jesus I was talking to a girl here that had come out of the Mormon Church and she said the first time I ever said that that they believe in a different Jesus she said I took offense to it she's a Christian now but she said I was so shocked I'm like I've never been told that before so I think maybe that's a good starting point like we do not believe in the same Jesus whatsoever well and you don't have to point at somebody's chest and tough it's another Jesus you can point them to those scriptures and ask them they think you know literally it's a process I had to be in the word for a while before that kind of stuff began to make sense let me give you another story one of the first people God ever brought us to bring out of Mormonism was brought to my house on a Sunday afternoon and she was bawling so for four hours she sat on my couch I could hardly understand what she said but this was her story her temple covenants she had given her life to Jesus a year ago and and kind of left Mormonism but she'd gone to the temple a lot and her temple covenants were haunting her she said what does that mean as a child what that I don't know what that means explain that to me she said well I go to sleep at night and then this voice is chanting in my head all of the the promises the covenants I made in the Mormon temple over and over and over and then I can't sleep and I remember thinking that's not good you know that probably doesn't have a good root and now I'm a couple years out of Mormonism at this point that's the first time it ever even kurd to me that the root of something outside of God in the Bible might not be a good root and might not be coming from a good place certainly isn't something you point out to somebody right away but as part of the progression you realize right you can't have two true gods it's just I think it's just a matter of walking with someone through this it's not and okay you need Jesus you're gonna give your life to Him it's like I know for Nabila what we go David worked for them for four years before and the church kept saying we're just not gonna preheat he just has a hard heart you you're not gonna save him and he's like he's my best friend I have to continue to pray for him so I think that's it don't expect it to happen overnight Sarah that we just pointed out that's here she has a friend that she said witness to her for five years just wasn't sinking in she read the book boom it clicked the kind of bridges the two worlds yeah yeah it's it's it's in in for the long haul do you think that a Mormon who has found the real Jesus should formally tell her family or let them see the change in her and let them ask her that's a really good question yeah eventually it's going to become eventually you're going to have to tell somebody probably and what often happens is as you walk this walk at some point you give up your membership in the Mormon Church if you don't officially give up your membership the Mormon missionaries keep coming to your door your home teachers your visiting teachers everybody's checking on you and that that's really hard for someone in transition because as they're trying to get to know this new God the old God keeps showing up and remember what the Bible says about double mindedness and then sometimes you even want to run back so I try to help them understand that they can separate relationships for a while go one direction and make sure they're strong before they keep letting this interfere again one thing I deal with with men and women who are leaving the Mormon Church in their 30s they're married they have little kids and yet they're Mormon mom has called him on the phone every day of their life knows when their kids are sick knows everything about them probably even knows about their sexual life with her husband things that I would consider to be inappropriate and yet there's this really close family thing going on right so that person gets saved and mom's still calling every day guilting asking them about faith crying you'll never be with our eternal family and that really wears on someone right it's trying to go in another direction and those are the kind of things as Christians you need to walk along beside someone what is the weird eternal family thing what is that all about the definition of eternal why don't you say that very nice did I only because I have a lot of questions on that and and my one question would be if okay so I died okay let's say we're family and I'm a Mormon in you're a Mormon and we're gonna be eternally together but then I decide to leave the church doesn't the church teach that you can baptized for the dead so can't you in in essence baptized for me and I'm still gonna be in your eternal family or does that not work that way not if you've heard the truth and accepted it and then walked away that's okay so it's a different okay so we got a lot of different rules going on that's true yeah and because scriptures are often contradictory it's a little bit of a trick you can pull out whichever scripture that person might wanna hear it sounds just exhausting and terrifying like I I think exhaustion um I think does the Mormon Church try to keep you very very busy like you have a lot of callings and you have a lot of things you have to do is there do you think there's a reason for that so that they don't have time to think or because they're very busy like I don't mean that mean like but if you're so busy raising 15 kids and they say right doesn't mean so I always about to say the definition of eternal life is families forever living with God that has to be earned it's not a gift eternal life in the Bible is a gift but according to Mormonism eternal life is something that must be earned so you have to attend your meetings regularly you have to hold a calling for at least a year you have to pay your tithing for at least a year you have to live the word of wisdom for at least a year there are 14 things you have to do in order to earn a temple recommend in order to be worthy to go into a Mormon temple and then you have to keep going back and then you have to keep doing all the laws and the ordinances and good works of Mormonism till the end of your life and exactly like he is long if you've done enough good God's grace will kick in and save you at the end but if you ask Mormons if you died today would you be in heaven they'll say I hope so that's their many many similarities between Islam and someone said how should I share my faith with my Mormon co-workers is sending them this video a good idea or is it better just to talk to them definitely talk to people in relationship if you're going to use the video unveiling grace actually the video that I showed part of is very non offensive to marmots they'll typically watch the whole thing why don't you help them watch it by themselves they can interpret any of that right watch it with them I'm fighting over and yeah it's it's ok if you watch this video and then ask them what they think we're not you know just like anybody else unsaved you're not cramming stuff down people's throats you're getting a feel for their temperature of where they are with God and what they might be interested in let me tell you a story I don't know last fall sometime I was doing a radio show in Salt Lake and I come out of the little radio booth and here's a professor atheist former Mormon wait before me he wants to bash right so we're in a Calvary Chapel we go to the little cafe in the Calvary Chapel and he's just arguing one stand at first I'm jumping right in with him and it was like the Holy Spirit said just shut up and listen I let this guy kind of Cathar to ours into this conversation he started talking about his divorce his voice got broken and all of a sudden the Holy Spirit showed me there's a place of vulnerability there is a place where you can bring God right there's a place where he might have an interest because this is something that's really deep and powerful for him so why are you witnessing to people if you don't know them if you don't know their heart if you don't know what they're seeking if you don't know what their questions are so I love Greg cocles techniques he says to open a conversation faith just say to somebody do you mind if I ask you a question about your faith marmots are usually more than happy to answer anything so you guys build temples why do you build temples that's the perfect opening they're more than happy to tell you about their temples they love that so then you can say stuff like so it's like solomon's temple of old right so you do you do sacrifices with lambs in the front yard right oh you don't so yours is not like Solomon's Temple they won't be familiar necessarily with the Old Testament you're planting the Word of God right they might go home and look it up and go wait a minute Solomon's Temple wasn't anything like ours when did it change who changed it right you're trying to plant seeds so they themselves will go searching you just can't hammer anybody with the Lord yeah so I think it's just you you don't fight with them you don't argue with him you just because that was our big thing like this morning before I came here someone facebooked and said is this Mormon bashing and I was I wrote back and I said we would never do that like that's not our heart that's not your heart and and she wrote back and said that you were eight what would I tell you it was a disillusioned Mormon you know and I said well does that hurt your feelings and so how do you get past that when people really say negative things about you well and this is a funny thing about God right in Mormonism I'm this mousy cooperative do anything for you work extra hours at the University compliant you know obey the priesthood kind of person god saves me and then he throws me into situations like that where people are not happy with my testimony right at first that kind of opposition I would cry all night long oh they don't like me you know I don't know how to I got over that really fast I started reading those things in the Bible but say Jesus says right they all hate me and when I live in you they'll hate you those are strong words so then I realize they're reacting right to something they're uncomfortable with and I can't really run away from it I mean God created the story he's using the story and so I've learned to be as bold but as gracious as possible I love when Mormons will come and I will just love on them and hug them and talk to them about BYU and we have to love scriptures say they will know we are Christians by our left there you go two Commandments now love the Lord your God last question when a Mormon what you know I know a lot of people always send me the Book of Mormon and they'll say you need to read this and you need to ask God to you know to show you that this is the truth and and my cousins always keep saying things like you know they want to bear their testimony to me well what does that mean like what does that mean like you when you became a Mormon do you have this fuzzy feeling they always talk about a burning bosom like what what exactly if I'm going to become a Mormon what am I supposed to be feeling well remember I said there are five points to a Mormon testimony and Micah didn't say four of them I know the churches true I know Joseph Smith was a prophet I know the Book of Mormon is true I know we have a living prophet today Jesus is our Savior that pretty much is a standard Mormon testimony and there are other things worked in what's your testimony as a Christian that actually that's a great open door somebody's giving you their Mormon testimony why not say can I give you my Christian testimony you know you wrote this down I'm going to write my you down and would you like to get together over lunch and you know and hear what Jesus has done in my life and you can tell me yeah yeah open those doors for conversation and don't be afraid okay I'm gonna start going and trying to be unafraid then this is my new thing your kid she's gonna call me every week have you called your cousin's yet thank you so much this was such a big big part of the series and we're so thankful that you're here you are they're teaching 13 times when they're here okay so we are so thankful that you're here doing this for us so let's pray in them we'll get going father thank you so much for this incredible ministry for linen Michael I we're just so proud of them and so excited for what you've done in their life I pray that we can all learn from what they taught us today god help us to be bold to love people to talk to them to not be fearful when you come in contact with a Mormon that in other words we realize that we just we need to say something that will promote the true Jesus I pray for that for each one of us here today bless Michael and Lynn's trip as they keep them safe there is seriously precious cargo in that car as they go from town to town sharing the truth about Jesus for anyone here God that doesn't know you I pray today is the day that they say I want the true Jesus in my life and I just ask for him to come in and it's so simple being a follower of of you is so simple I pray that other people will will recognize that thank you for your word the truth of your word I pray that it'll motivate us to read more and study more so we know what it says so we have an answer when someone asks in Jesus name Amen they are caring more about punching holes in the darkness than they are the my life is anyway sorry for Jesus and you saying that is what is the norm in this kingdom what is it that makes you cry for happy or sad or miserable what is it they did something that I want

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Length: 44min 29sec (2669 seconds)

Published: Thu Feb 22 2018