Hello folks, Kirk and jason here
with Kirk Giordano Plastering. Today I want to show you guys how to use a veneer
finish we're gonna basically put a 1/16 of an inch or less a little more sometimes depending on
the thickness and then we're gonna finish it with a veneer why veneer because veneer is made
with limestone you put one part gypsum plaster and you put two parts lime check this out guys on
my last video I showed how to do this I mean who wants to walk around you'll be walking around at
say art wine fair or something else imagine going to say Burning Man you're walking around people
say how you do that man I learned how to do this when I was on the ship I was watching these guys
spin plates and I said that is theoretically impossible I don't care how great your skill
level is, because I'm a Nun Chucks expert, with my hands and with tools and I couldn't do it I
thought they must have drilled holes anyway I showed how to do this in my last video you want to
know how to do it piece of cake guys I mean you I showed exactly how to do that I could put a nail
like put anything anyway guys I'll quit messing around I'll show you what we're gonna do here we
are going to use the veneer of base coat first why a base coat guys okay let me show you something oh
this particular material here this is a base coat now a base coat for veneer plaster is usually here
in the states you go with USG you go with diamond finishes or you'll go with Keens or you'll go
with diamond sister product which is Imperial used in hospitals and schools, Diamond lime, it has more fat, I
like to play with it, but right now this is a base coat and the base coat so if I were to go take him
out here guys you know it'd take me three trips it would take three trips but with the base coat
here all I'm going to do is it was put it on I would start the bottom now this base coat is a lot
stronger than say tape and mud and I explained it a second ago why because this base coat has sand
in it and it hat well it has crushed lime where'd you get the lime from the the quarries or the
the mines you break it down and you put usually two parts lime for every one part gypsum and mix
them together and you got this stuff here now can you just use a base coat you can but it'll give
a sandy finish can you just use say the plaster because I'm gonna plaster right over this in about
about say 10 to 15 minutes I'm gonna put another coat well let me change that in case you guys are
watching in about half-hour I'll put on another coat on and this right here is basically just so the
next coat does not bubble because the people who say hey Kirk can I just do a coat of veneer finish? yes, and no if you're very good you could if you're not very good you should do this,
even if you're very good I recommend you do this anyway, because it's a lot stronger, guys I know
we're in a society where everybody's in a hurry you got to get done fast they'll have no time for
waiting, but if you skip this process here guys you skip some of the strength, I don't I mean
some jobs you don't have to worry about the strength and you guys watch me plaster, how do you always
use a swimming pool trowel, well the swimming pool trowel is not really a swimming pool trowel, it
is technically but I've said this many times guys when I was Union, I cut I take a skill saw
with a masonry blade or metal blade, I cut this and I just leave the arcs so I liked it better
it's straight on the top not it's not a complete radius but anyway I still use it guys now here's a
joint here's a paint joint here's a plaster joint so we fill the plaster joint and there's a paint
joint for paint joint you can allow the finished product to do that and the finished product again
is just lime guys it's lime and gypsum there is no sand in it this has sand and the sand is for structural strength,
When we were Union that just means we worked with a whole bunch of people and out of
the hall they used to have eighty-pound bags we'd be carrying these big old bags, as big as uh eighty
pounds because for hospitals and schools they didn't allow for any other stuff but I'll show you
when we, I'm not gonna do this whole thing on film but for the sake of those who say man I want to
do one coat I'll explain something because I can meaning okay say for example what's this base coat
drives right here and I get ready to do the finish coat I can show you do to finish coat just over
this is straight because all these cabinets right here the fellow who owns the kitchen over the
the house he said, "Kirk, don't worry about this wall at all, you can do just over the vent and this" and
I said why is that? well, he said, I'm selling the house. I said, Man, that's a scary attitude I
tell you what I'm going to do I'm gonna do the whole thing anyway man I'm just not right leaving this
like it is so when we come back I'm gonna show you how we finish over this it's nothing
guys this beats the heck out of say taping mud because one trip you see that didn't take me long
it's all on film and it's it's so much harder it's monolithic, I mean that's concrete solid durable
like rock marble, I mean, it's solid, so you can't push thumbtacks through this and plus with the
lime in it it's more resistant to all the cooking the steam and all of that in a kitchen we're in a
kitchen anyway we'll show you that in a minute all right guys I'm waiting for paint to dry actually
I'm waiting for that to dry I've got another ten minutes or so we covered the windows so they've
got no air going on people to say, "gee whiz that trowel is too big" to get in small spots, okay you see
this we got corners we got all kinds of junk I can get in small spots with it for the folks who
say man that that giant trowel, is just not working bull it all depends on the applicator guys because
I could use a big trowel, a tiny midget trowel, I mean I could use the spatula or the taping mud knife
that all the tapers used to that's nothing this material spreads so well that you could use any
any tool, I could put use my big this is an 18 inch trial and I also have a 20 that I like to use
for interiors, I could use that 20 also because you just you just got to ankle the trowel guys, angle
it and move that mud, see as I move my hand I hate what I want with the mud in the direction I
want it right here where it's lower we just fill it over here where we're going behind things
we start here to use the end or the toe and fill it up then go this side to the cornerback get that
out of there boom now because I'm out of mud, I'll grab some mud and show you how we get even this
this little stuff out of the way, okay guys tight spot with a Congo trowel, there's a tight spot but
if you know how to handle the mud it's not so bad and right here guys as a rule base coat Diamond
finishes they're supposed to go say a sixteenth of an inch three thirty-seconds but have I gone a
quarter-inch yes, have I gone a whole inch, yes, that patch over there it was about an inch thick, I just hit it
and it will be dry and it will be hard and it's an inch thick, so there are rules with this stuff, but
those rules are when you're working professionally on jobs for schools, hospitals, and stuff like
that you better know your specifications for each, but for homeowners stuff like this it's
not a cardinal sin if you break the rules and go a little thicker my buddy From walls and ceilings
would disagree, he'd ask "Kirk, you know you gotta be within specification?" Specifications what's that? I'm an applicator, not an engineer. Anyway Mark Fowler he's the specifications expert editor for walls and ceilings; I'm an applicator and I'm not working on government projects.
Right now working on a homeowner project, see, how that sticks you turn it, you spin it
and have not like spitting the trough you put it there and use your hand you spin
this turn your hand and push it on here then squeeze it down and push it up and
boom you got it all that ceiling we're going to take it here and you're probably
thinking well how you're going to get that corner because your trowel doesn't have
a tip good question I'll show you okay how are we going to get that tip put this over
there I'll grab my handy-dandy trowel, okay I'm going to take some of the fat that's why
I like this these materials here that the the veneers such as Imperial it doesn't have it
much fat for the or as much lime as this lime is what makes it buttery, guys now I'm out of
material so we're gonna wait on this to dry and you'll be able to tell it'll start to lighten
we're gonna start to lighten you'll know or is it starts to darken one of those two I left this
little piece here, because I want to show you the the veneer lime finish, you can go over this as it's
pretty thick so you don't need any more strength plus it's getting covered by the tiles or by the
cabinet's any way when we get back started I'll show you that the finish alright guys we are doing
the finish coat now notice it did dry a little bit darker I think it's I said I was gonna dry uh some
lighter just a exterior work dry and lighter there anyway this is what we're doing guys and you
know also I guess I'll point out right now see right here this mud this will do that this whole
thing right here that'll take another trowel but now check this out and again by the way guys the
advantages to this monolithic stuff is it's also water-resistant and it's got no sand in it, it's
strong you could paint the next day how many of you guys can use a product that you could paint
the next day how many interiors were out there none that you could paint the next day, that is the
the biggest advantage of this man, you know a lot of guys they call me, and say, "Kirk, we're in a
hurry," and I think well why didn't you call us earlier but there's a lot of advantages
to this veneer finish of course my buddy. Mark with walls and ceilings would say, "Kirk, you're
gonna show them how to go an inch thick with that too? where walls and ceiling they wrote the book
on these products, they do a lot of video work so if you want to see somebody else's work
and they'll come out there they got all their videos very professional look, not like old
Kirk, saying you can go an inch thick, that's taboo you're not supposed to go an inch thick
you're supposed to go just about 1/16 to 1/8, and you still get that monolithic hard finish
you can't get that with tape and mud guys it's just gypsum, this you got this lime in it, and
so lime is incredibly strong, oh I'm gonna get yelled at the homeowner, Andy Davis, man, enough how'd
you know I was here, oh you saw my truck, yeah you brought the whole crew take a look at these
guys to take a look oh so chef Seth Richardson Father and son, yeah, it is. This is Andy
Davis of Davis plastering. He's the best guy I know doing almost anything except for me. I've been teaching him stuff, man, I got a couple minutes, and I'm gonna
this muds getting hard man getting hard, that's good to see you guys, man,
I take it you're working close by, Yeah, you ever confused me like that
on video again. You're out getting ready to go out there and move my truck.
okay guys, anyway once you finish this up Andy yeah yeah now this finish here this is smooth
am I gonna finish everything right now no because this mud is getting hard but I just want to leave
it at that plus I want to stop and talk with my buddy for a minute but I will say this guy when
you get it to this stage here now again this is really really strong much stronger five ten times
stronger than tape in mind because tape in mud is just gypsum this has got lime in it so the lime
gives it that monolithic strength there you go you let that set I'll tell you something
here's the key to a lot of this stuff the back in the day we used to when we did white coating they'd call
it "White Coating," we'd have a $60 brush and you were a punk if you didn't have a $60 brush but today I'll
tell you I like to get these little dollar brushes that I have somewhere okay a dollar brush these
little dollar brushes you throw them away the next day after you use them you just use them like
a paintbrush get your corners with the edge get your inner corners right here right here and that
little corner there that'll do it I said I was going to show you how to do this oh my goodness
okay that's stuff that's gone that's okay but we're just doing a quick thing here now because
oh that's hard because this wall here is going to get covered with cabinets I'll just show it
their guys that's stiff mud this gets hard quick So anything you guys say well, gee whiz,
I just want to do one coat or you guys put in the UK that say Kirk you bloody wanker, you
waste time we do that with Kal coat one coat, but we don't have Kal coat here guys we're in the u.s. anyway that's a goner but if you're gonna do one solid coat put it on don't over
trowel it, like what I'll do is like this right here and again cabinets are gonna go over this
so but even if it works I'm still gonna make it pretty, we do like so you let it try a little
bit then you take a water brush or a bottle or a Hudson sprayer you hose it you missed it then
you take a trowel and you just go back over and get all the cat faces out and make it smooth
like a baby's butt guys anyway, my name is Kirk, Jason on the camera what uh we thank you for
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