Judd Apatow | Club Random With Bill Maher

how awesome is it that i can drink and talk to judd apatow at five in the afternoon this is this is this is what you've always wanted and people say i've been mean to jesus but saying since the man does not take offense apparently yes so do you have a drink i do have a drink right here oh you do good i'm joining you you know my parents used to watch the clock like kids in school waiting for the belt to ring yeah because like before five you're a [ __ ] drunk and after five it's cocktails they hit it hard people in that that's the madman era they [ __ ] drank i don't know if that's your parents my dad will do that but not before five how far would it go well my father was irish shall we say he was tense in his job he was a news man yeah um so you know in the days when you had to read the news like with a stopwatch because it was live on the hour on the radio station it was a tense job yeah the best conversation i ever had with him was when i was in college and i was stoned and he was drunk yeah you know but he was never somebody who didn't function or was drunk on the job yeah just like you get home and boy you need to unwind you know then did he mind you unwinding he was so [ __ ] naive about it yeah one time my friend and i said the first year i'm smoking pot what year is this this is 1975. and you're 12. 19 19. and uh 19 is the first time you spoke yes in sixth grade bill look at me i'm the straight one between us you smell pot in sixth grade my best friend ronnie garner his brother followed the dead and he grew pot in his room and so one day we said let's smoke that pot because we were young animals no one was paying attention to us we were like latchkey kids and so we were so scared we went to where they were building condominiums like half-built condominiums like a horror movie and like we like took like one puff each and then a security guard was like hey you and we ran for like seven miles i don't think the guy even turned and took a step but and that was it for a couple of years young animals by the way is a good title for you yes for something right yeah young animals i haven't written that movie yet the sixth seventh grade here i mean i would go right around the title i would just go write for the title judd but uh so listen to this story my i'm 19 where my first year you know i literally would like my friend would when i was home you know from on vacation yeah from uh my wonderful time at cornell okay so i'd be with my friend he was the one who introduced me to the pod high school friend he would come over and we would smoke like in the car in the driveway and then sit in the driveway for an hour because we were just laughing at the glove compartment i mean that first year the drug works so well at least it did for me especially as a laugh drug yeah that you you're just hysterical almost like what mushrooms would be later in life you know mushrooms is always a laughing drug but one time we was the dead of winter's home winter vacation and we're driving smoking in the car doing bongs we had a little bong we do it at a traffic light we didn't know well i could have been in jail now so uh we rolled down i say roll down all the windows when you had to roll them down in the pontiac dad's pontiac because we got to air out the car no seatbelts no seatbelts no airbags [Music] no nothing just our wits and here's our wit besides smoking at red lights so i say roll down all the windows to to air out the car before we get home it's like 10 degrees out we pull in we forgot about the windows so my father's shoveling snow he comes over and he says it's 10 degrees out why are the windows all rolled down and any other father who wasn't like so trusting in his son would have known why yeah and i just said oh uh he farted you know what the lesson that was it your dad was a terrible he didn't journalist that out at all you're right but it came to his kids he was very naive that way yeah you know he was just you know a good heart and trusting and stuff but you know speaking of family i have to say your kid so killed it on euphoria this year i know it's crazy such a proud papa oh so so proud and it seems like just yesterday she was saying [ __ ] you mom and this is 40. exactly that was preparation for euphoria you could see the stages she's a nice one yes i mean and she she really they made her gave her a big part that it was she was fantastic i'm boy what i liked about the show is it was like two years the first two years was all leading to this idea of him showing you know why they're all messed up and traumatized and the grief they have and and uh it was really beautiful i just as a as someone who likes good television and cinema to even get to have a little peek of what they're doing is by the way that's some high school play that that high school can put on huh exactly well it's a surreal experience i mean of course you can't it's like apocalypse now yeah if you if you took that movie as people remember at the time compared it to platoon i was like no platoon is not a comedy yeah this is a black comedy if you don't see it that way it's like and it's kind of the same thing with the no high school play could ever look like that you just go with it because it's so entertaining and it makes the art good and i mean it was uh he's quite a uh talent that levinson right and uh and it's fun to watch mod you know preparing because as a parent you know she's telling you what work was like that day and so she's like oh i hope uh i hope i did a good job i'd cry a lot today and that's all you really know of what the day was and then you see it and it's the most beautiful intense scene and it's not at all like her description of it when she's coming home so many um kids of you know stars or uh well it does a little sure look at what you did right and he was funny yeah that's i saw that oh i saw the first part of your carlin yes it's so fantastic yeah which will be out in may may on hbo yes okay it's amazing i mean you don't even have to love carlin to begin with but if you do of course it's even more amazing but it's just everything everybody knows i mean your show there and i've seen it also a lot he's still quoted tons on social media every week he trends and he's been ready for like 15 years that's so rare especially among the younger generations who were not like us who don't like we cared about older people and even if they weren't around anymore if they were interesting whereas i feel like the younger generations it's like if you're not around while i'm around you don't exist so for carlin to be like still trending it's it's amazing because he has the perfect bit for everything that's happening all the time and it doesn't matter what comes up he has something about it over the span of the career yeah over 30 years he hit big government big pharma awokeness i mean there's there's a right for every subject but his i noticed you showed that his father even though he was such a rotten guy and he was gone by the time he george was eight right about like one i think no i think he was around because george complained about him i think he saw him a teeny bit yeah but he was a monster to the mother yes but he says he was very funny he was funny he was and this is such a common chord right with comics the father is like a living room comedian the father's funny but not professional funny and the kid so many comics have that story in them sure my dad had all the cosby records and the lady bruce records and was he funny and he was funny he made his friends laugh but on some level like he just put in me that like comedy was an incredibly great thing like he loved it so much that's what we had out like oh you have to listen to this and your parents were together for a little while oh not for all time until like end uh junior high oh which from my height you know my high school is pretty good one by one every kid's parents got divorced and you would move from your house into like the hidden ridge condominiums everyone would switch over so that shows we are not exactly the same generation yeah because my experience is not that at all no one got no suicide was rather high yeah just to get out of it dad would be in the swimming pool yeah seriously before he would leave because he couldn't leave right i mean that's honestly that was not that uncommon that's the jersey way remember in mad men there was the character the neighbor lady there's a lady who's like a single mom she's got that kid glenn who has a crush on yes john hamm's wife and kind of a creepy kid a madman yeah on mad men yeah well she was like a pariah in the neighborhood and this is the 60s yeah because you were in high school what in early 70s yes uh freshman year was 70. i graduated in 74. yeah what what i graduated in 85. yeah so we're like a [ __ ] and that decade is the difference between a boomer and a gen xer yeah but very different times very different because you you experience the beatles a little bit i was the end i was old enough to know what i was experiencing let me rephrase it you experienced the plastic oh no band boy they were pretty terrible there's a couple of killers there what isn't that mother is it motherboard classical about okay you know what i'm yes i'm thinking yes if you want to be technical his first two uh solo albums were the plastic owning them but they're john lennon albums yeah i think of the plastic on a band as the gang that went up to toronto with no rehearsal eric clapton and klaus mormon and yoko and uh played like cold turkey which is a horrible song um he never did the big tour of john lennon no he hosted the mike douglas show because there's a clip in the george carlin documentary where he's talking about changing from like a corny comedian to an edgy comedian yeah and then you reveal the other guests on the mike douglas show or john lennon in yokota you know what got me more than anything well two things one when he says um when he's first like really hitting it big and he says the thrill of getting caught in your own traffic i've had that experience where you're coming to the theater or trying to leave the theater where you're playing and there's a huge traffic jam because they came to see you there's a crowd i have not had that but i i i could you could i'd have to okay i'd have to create fewer lines of traffic to get in to create that well i mean no you you what you know what there's very few directors and there's one coming a little later i hope you stay a little and say hi uh who are famous it's very hard to become famous just from being a director you know i'm talking to the public like the man in the street knows your name like he knows spielberg's like he knows quentin's name like but it's not a lot i mean you say to the man in the street you know i i don't know name some directors scorsese they know that name yeah but it's rare and they know his face and you know they he's like a celeb that's a rare thing yeah so get out there and sell some tickets yeah well that's as i mean i also do you know i do some stand up and i actually only direct to get better spots of the improv club random is supported by signalwire ever been on a typical video conferencing call with a bunch of people it's impossible to understand anybody especially if they're all talking at once you don't believe me remember what it was like the last time a bunch of you tried to do an intervention for a family member on a video call nobody was in sync uncle al's still a mess that's because the latency sucks signalwire has virtually zero audio and video latency so you can hear see and hear others in real time the guys behind signalwire the same developers that pioneered the tech that enabled cloud phone systems zoom and the ring doorbell years ago but since then the technology has gotten so much better that they developed their own next generation platform signalwire's advanced communications platform 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about is how shitty we were treated when we began i mean there were times when i uh was promised money and got sniffed i could think of two not that they burned in my mind 40 years later but one was the comedy works in philadelphia he said he would send me an excuse me check for a hundred even that didn't come okay it doesn't matter i've forgotten all about it and there was another one i played in a disco oh my god i was supposed to get thirty dollars sure to be in a disco which let's just say that wasn't a great gig to begin with never got that and then of course they would just cheat you out of money when we had to have a strike this is uh like 79 the comedy store strike comedy store strike and also we had a union thing in l.a my book uh i wrote one novel about my beginnings it's called true story um you know ben almost made it into a movie way back in the day but then other things happened but um you know that the political spine of that is the nascent union movement there was a group of comedians who felt this is a showcase club we stink and we're allowed to stink and the you don't pay us and in response we don't feel any obligation to be any good because we're we're working it out so the place is packed exactly a fortune that's the other argument yes and um which side were you on well that was a little a couple years before my time but i know that uh it was ugly like you know my book the plot is is about me and my best friend this comedian you wouldn't know him and that kind of split us apart you know i thought he was a guy who was never going to make it as a comedian he was not he was a funny witty irishman but he was not overly burdened with talent for the stage yeah a little corny a little bit you know a little not ahead of his time behind it yeah and i thought he used the excuse of let's all be you know in solidarity and quit if you don't get paid just like well you're not going to make it anyway you don't care if you get paid whereas i'm going to [ __ ] beat out you other [ __ ] okay so i am willing to eat [ __ ] now for what this club is giving me and so and i kind of stand by that not that we shouldn't have gotten something we got cab fare but you know i was terrible i shouldn't have been paid you know and i feel like across line there were people who crossed the picture there was no picket line in new york yeah i would not have crushed that i was in new york in l.a there were people who who mitzi got yeah i would never have crossed a picket line because my father was a big union guy and his father i had my uh genealogy done a few years ago on that show on pbs you know the skip gate show it's fantastic i refuse to do it because uh they wanted my dna and i don't i'm not giving it out to anybody is that sharing maybe they're gonna give it to my health insurance people maybe they're going to clone me after i'm dead i'm not giving gates my personal genetic information did i yes he has he he could build you in the lab with it he can make a bilmar ear that's no skin off my nose oh maybe it is um no why is that why would that be i don't like people that i don't know you know what it's so funny like the things that creep you out right there's no logical reason for it uh other than it made me think that feels like the most personal thing i can do to give to strangers and i don't know where all that data is going so i've never done 23andme now you're getting me paranoid about it and you could probably talk me into that point of view anyway i don't remember the part about my dna i i thought they they just had researchers yeah because they like went to ireland i mean they found my irish relatives going back to i think 1818 you know the church where they're born that kind of stuff there were records of that it's fascinating my grandfather who i never met but he was a badass he was on the front page of the newspapers in like 1919 1920 he was head of the boatsmen's union he met with the president woodrow wilson in the white house to settle this [ __ ] he had the whole new york harbor locked up looking for better wages i mean back then wages were really [ __ ] that's my heritage my father came from the same irish you know when the irish ran new york the cops and the irishmen and all that stuff and he would he would have been heartbroken if i ever crossed any picket line and i never would i mean i'm pro-union but unions got corrupt too mm-hmm that's like why so you it's you you're from a long tradition of not taking any [ __ ] well certainly my grandfather was a badass i mean that was mostly what skip gates um concentrated on and then he brought out a small mouse with my dick on it have you ever seen that with the ear on the mouse yes well this is the future this is they're going to be able to improve little sections of our body i mean you're not getting any younger wouldn't you rather i'm going to miss it i'm going to miss it i can tell miss what well like if i was 20 i'd be like oh i'm gonna all these things are happening are going to reach me and they're going to regenerate me but i'm going to drop dead the day before that kicks in right i always say that too i say i don't mind dying i just don't want to be the last guy to do it exactly we got the cure but if they had spare parts i mean we already are part of the way there do you know who ray kurzweil is yes you do of course you do you know everything well he predicted a lot of amazing things that came true like almost to the year of the fall of the soviet union among them and half man half robots well that's his thing it's called the singularity i know about it i have nightmares about it well why it's it's it's he says 2028 is when man and machine become fully integrated no we're already part the way there because i i notice when you fill out certain things it's like you have any metal in your body you know it's like they're like and soon that's gonna be like do you not have any are you a weirdo has no metal in your body well now they can put things like on your your head and have you like type with your thoughts they're just beginning to figure with your thoughts yeah like move the cursor with your mind so we're getting closer but at some point the robots just say it would be easier without the the flesh people they just yeah well that now that's an interesting debate that people like musk elon musk and maybe it's bezos have um i'm not sure who but elon musk and i believe and i'm on the page with him and you which is that it's true because everything that happens in movies eventually happens everything yes you know i was at the oscar party with elon musk and i asked him this is really funny it was like like maybe 10 12 years ago it was before tesla and he's he's there someone introduces me to him i don't i've like heard his name but i don't know who he is it's before people really knew who he was really and i said uh but you did i i just kind of knew the name that maybe from like how did he do paypal or and so i just said so what are you up to and he said uh i'm trying to come up with a spaceship that can fly to mars and back and i i said to him and we're both kind of maybe a little drunk i said there's no way you're going to figure that out before you die that's the stereo i was trying to get him not to innovate i was such a jew in that moment i was just like you'll never figure it out do something practical that's hysterical wow what but he is of the mind that yes what you what'd you say that eventually the robots figure out they don't need us we i mean it's disturbing i feel in itself this typing with your mind because that seems like if you can do that can't you read someone's mind i mean if yeah okay for those google glasses that no one wanted a few years ago because like you could be wearing those glasses now but videotaping our conversation without anyone knowing those are about to come back i think you know the idea that you had your computer screens on there like robocop yeah that doesn't bother me as much i wouldn't use them but it's still living in the realm we're living in it's sneaky but we all always have done sneaky things but getting inside my mind yeah uh what's in there what would they say then we don't like to way less than most people that's true it's it's me and then a little bit of a real or me and then a little real or realer me and then public parking and that's what i would say is right in the middle what i always say about you bill is that i feel like the thing i really respect is that you mean everything that you say i never feel like you write a joke to get to the joke that these are your beliefs whether you agree or not correct and i think a lot of comedians they fudge their opinions of course to get to jokes and like people want to be taken seriously for their opinions but they also want to say i'm just goofing i don't mean any of it and you have to pick a lane i think and well when you start out first of all you're just trying to get the oxygen of laughter so you'll say anything whether you believe it or not you know yeah or if it's you'll put on a wig you're just trying to survive but yes as you get better and more sophisticated and yeah that i mean that became much more my brand yeah you know i feel like that's the bond with my audience you don't have to agree with me um and many times people don't or they don't fully i mean i always appreciate when someone says i always agree with you i'm like there's a true failure but no many to i i love just as much people who say you know i don't always agree with you but they appreciate that they respect that and that's the thing i won't break because then you you know you got to stick with your brand right but uh interestingly in the carlin thing he says at one point uh when he's making the transition from sellout you know the that person who needs the oxygen of laughter and money in his case he's on the craft musical i mean you see him with john davidson yeah where's the other one and the other comic is richard pryor we're in the same sweater the two like little [ __ ] oh that's it's not sad it's like everybody's career in show business you gotta [ __ ] eat [ __ ] yeah even prior and carlin ate [ __ ] on the craft musical it's almost uplifting yeah and they're singing they're literally in like variety show singing numbers but he says when he switches up he says yeah i'm playing to like 40 year olds in nightclubs you know and they're not digging it i i realized i had to go for the college crowd yeah if a comic was like super honest like him today yeah the last place they would go yeah is the colleges colleges is where even jerry seinfeld won't play colleges right you you know all about that i i've heard that he said uh yes it's not his favorite place we're doing the whole thing about like it was jerry seinfeld said it chris rock said it and larry the cable guy do you play colleges a black jew and a redneck walk into a college and none of them want to tell any jokes to these little pricks to whom nothing is funny yeah and uh yeah i mean do i play i would be the last one to be i mean i would be they would protest before i got to the college i wouldn't even be able to walk on this stage let alone survive i mean they would not agree with one premise yeah uh probably that i had to say unless it was like trump is an [ __ ] yes we can all agree trump is an [ __ ] there's an easy one yeah depending i guess where the college is um true i'm sure there are colleges you know in texas and [ __ ] places i used to book the colleges when i first met you i booked you to college thank you for getting me back to my point of 20 minutes ago which is why comedians are better because we don't get paid well but i remember to this day as well as the ones who didn't pay me that you paid me 500 at a time when that was not yeah a common that was a good payday yeah a good paid day in town in l.a in l.a you picked me up i picked you up do you remember the car that i was driving yeah i'm sure i was driving a jeep i think is this 89 yeah it could have been a volkswagen also i'm not sure no this was probably like yeah 87 88 87 so you were just two years out of high school i was i was booking shows yes to get spots so i booked uc santa barbara i booked usc when i was going there and then occasionally people would ask me to book things and then i would book people i admired and then force you to drive in a car with me and talk to me well i remember thinking i mean i must say i have a pretty good eye for spotting a talent it takes a ton it takes a big talent to spot a big talent i always say uh no i don't really say that but it made me feel good but you i thought from the very beginning i said this kid definitely this this kid is going somewhere i'm not sure where but he is just too far along for his age your level of knowledge i remember about comedy was and you know i was crazy i mean whatever happening well this book oh perfect perfect way well you know you know most people are listening to this not hearing it and watching it so let me see it right i uh i hold it up to my ear there you go but when i was a kid in high school i would interview comedians because i wanted to know about comedy and then i put out these books for charity for dave edgar's eight two six is this more you have this is like a part two right this is part two oh i see i got right you know letterman's in there sasha baron cohen oh nathan fielder whoopi goldberg who's that nathan for have you not seen nathan for you no oh you'd love it okay put it on you put in your cue i mean of course i'm gonna read that one but i was always obsessed with talking to comedians it was fun for this to talk to people because it was during the pandemic and everyone was home so i got letterman on the phone to talk for a couple of hours about what it was like well you got little men to talk on the phone because you're you are who you are now um it couldn't have been that easy in 1987 and yet you still did it you still got to you talk to all these people yeah well no one wanted to talk to anyone back then i mean the thing is if you called jerry seinfeld in 1983 to do a long interview he had never done one ever right i mean no one no one did like our interviews with comics back then it was they did they weren't really on the radio they weren't in the newspaper there was no podcast there was no internet so yeah it's people were i mean that story of that paul reiser tells yeah but he comes to his house george clooney came to his house to do an interview with his sister for her college radio i mean and he was well known by then i mean he wasn't a newcomer it was just people you know people who didn't used to be so paranoid yeah you know that like in in lincoln's time well of course lincoln had a bad experience with this but like you know you could just roll up on the president you could knock on the white house door yeah almost did it what elvis did no that wasn't an appointment he showed up i know but he was stopped before he went in he didn't just walk up there was not there was no gate back then it was just the white house it was just a house in the neighborhood you know if you had the right cape you were in there and a badge didn't they give them a badge there's a picture of that hanging in the bathroom in there of elvis and that day well i mean it just shows the power of celebrity yep you know i mean you can celebrity your way into or out of so much it's not right i'm not saying it's right it's horrible and yet come on i mean i'm sure you've done it my level of celebrity is so perfectly low oh it's i mean it's fantastic i remember going you've never gotten a table at a restaurant because you know what here's the thing it's like one in six that it's gonna happen and it's worth it and i'll take the shot every time then you need to get a better assistant yeah the kids whoever is calling these restaurants for you is is really is not doing the job and they call up and they go he made knocked up in 2007. i don't know if you saw it you okay do i have to read your crown are you having a moment of uh confidence crisis that i have to read your credits for you but i remember going to see the clippers with channeling right so we were walking in the clippers game and shanley always said he had the perfect level of celebrity because in a whole night at the clippers game three people walked up to him you know in a stadium and each one could not have been happier to talk to him no one else said a word to him right and he said judd this is what you want it to be right right there i would say it's similar for me yeah you know i mean sometimes it's so funny people in civilian life have three officers they don't live in l.a they don't have any clue they think every celebrity knows each other they think if you're famous every one of us is michael jackson in 1985 that you know we're just that if i had children i'd have to put a blanket over them because because everyone would be taking pictures of them and i saw that by the way at the mall in vegas so what michael jackson runs through the mall in caesar's palace with one of his kids covered in uh it was like a beekeeper thing yeah it was hysterical i remember there was a hat on the masks there was an episode of east bound and down i loved that show danny mcbride and he gets like the slightest job in show business like an announcer on the local radio sports announcer on the local tv station and the next day he's got his kids wearing those michael jackson things it it's like the ultimate fame went to his head too club random is supported by zip recruiter according to the latest research 90 percent of employers plan to make enhancing the employee experience a top priority in 2022 after all a happy workplace is a key to attracting and keeping great employees especially if they're working out of their kitchen there are so many ways employers can make employees 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official winning time podcast wherever you get your podcasts but you had george carlin on your show a bunch of times some amazing conferences where he really went at some of the other guests because i saw him when we were making you know what i wish i had that that whole decade back actually but like i don't think he had a good time doing the show because it was first of all he's such a brilliant guy and that show you could be with three idiots yeah and took the art out of what he does it's it wasn't for him and he was right and like i remember at the time i wished he you know liked it better but i see now why it he was too good for it in a lot of ways i mean he was very written it would like when he did that he never riff he wouldn't play with the crowd he didn't write on stage he just wrote it right and said it and so on we see that in your documentary yeah because just like you did with the shambling one yeah i love this we see the notebook yeah you know you actually see it almost in his head first but then on the page sometimes the scribble out for the revised version that would then see and hear him actually do i love that yeah and he talks about america and you see the post-it note it says it's a big club and you're not in it right what did that mean well you just talked about like america because he he had this bit and he said you know they call the american dream because you have to be sleep sleeping to believe it you know what bit i loved seeing i remember when he did it but it certainly resonated with me so much now because of the pandemic and my feelings about how it should have been handled much more internally than externally yeah internally meaning what well terrain theory which even louis pasteur on his deathbed and he was the father of germa theory admitted to is that and it's not denying germs of course we're not insane people it's the terrain that whatever the invading pathogen is trying to take root in that's what is the deciding factor if you're a swamp mosquitoes will breed if your body is not a swamp they have a hard time that's not saying you can't die if you're not a swamp but so um when he said when i was a kid we swam in the east river and none of us got polio yeah every other we swam in sewage and and he goes on and on and it's just like exactly i i just felt like he also said at one point it could have come out of my mouth these days he said i don't like orthodoxy from the left or the right he was like the only guy i can like sort of use as a load star for that who wasn't like predictable yeah you know with he's tough on everybody i didn't even always agree i felt like his thing on environment was stupid there's plenty that don't work at all i mean i went through all of it i mean some of it is like all of us is is great the planet will be fine yeah well yeah we're not worried about the planet we're about us living on it you know it was like there was an arrogant about trying to clean up the planet for your own enjoyment that's what basically your own breath yeah i mean he was just like your own life exactly like there was something about that that it was uh self-centered uh to do it for yourself i'm not exactly sure what that maybe i'm misquoting it so after you do one of these documentaries are you sick of the guy well that one i was worried because i was very close with gary chandling i had met george carlin but i didn't know him and i just thought can i capture him with my partner mike michael bonfiglio without having that experience and his daughter kelly carlin was really instrumental in telling the story and so i'm just so happy that her family thinks that uh it is correct because it's also about his marriage i mean he you know he he had a very tumultuous uh marriage they both had addiction issues and then they worked it out and it's a beautiful but rough story i i love the drugs um i love the drugs yeah why continue no i love the drug stuff in there because we learn a lot about coke liquor and pot uh is it he's on a tv show way back and he's saying again pioneers get all the arrows i mean [ __ ] he's saying i don't know what year that was but he's saying i guess the kid kelly probably was like seven or eight or something and he's saying well we'd rather her she smoked marijuana yeah then do liquor it's healthier which is now a fairly commonplace and of course scientifically undeniable and he was saying they sold pot in the house on a morning show right in l.a oh that's a morning so shocked it might be an afternoon show i mean their jaws are on the floor yeah we smoke pot and right we think it's fine and we'll talk to our dog you could tell the the lady is like like how can i say this so this doesn't get on me yeah uh you don't really think marijuana would be acceptable to a child yeah you know i mean they are losing their [ __ ] but when you there's a uh you you see him in the round yeah at one point in the i i kind of remember that show i don't know what it is but boy do i see in that performance a guy who's coked up sweaty it's like the typical coke joke is the guy who can't shut up and and you hate that guy but it's like oh but he has the right job for being that guy well he's also writing but he's also manic he's mannequin he's like doing coke for days at a time by himself never with other people it's never social and he's writing and he's listening to music and uh and we have audio tapes of him like singing and screaming and uh and he certainly paid a price word with a lot of heart problems and i i can't even imagine doing drugs like that yeah i i'm certainly not against drugs but only doing them wisely well one theory was that he had obsessive compulsive disorders and maybe attention issues and something about the effect of cocaine for him he thought was serving this obsession with writing and language and maybe they were all working together in some way and then it fully like it does with you know drugs like that gets away from him and really wrecks your life but i was talking to his manager about it because i wanted to make sure he got it right and he said to me you know judd he said to me all the time i love cocaine but you know he did it for a very long time and and uh and there was something lonely about it because it was about being on the road and he had to cancel gigs oh yeah there's an appearance on the mike douglas show with his mother where his you know his voice is gone yes and he was canceling shows because of it yeah there's that story it's very funny that paul reiter tells that when he comes over to the apartment yeah and then he's they say when he's leaving it's like where are you going he said i gotta go uptown to buy a camera and paul's father's like let me take you downtown i got the best place so he goes with him and buys the camera and they run into him like a year later and they say uh something about remembering that day and he said yeah i was on my way uptown to buy coke and i wound up having to go downtown and buy a camera he was never he was never going up to buy a camera he was in town to score but how amazing is that paul ryzer's sister interviews him they kept the tape i have the audio in the documentary and there's this amazing story of them driving him to a camera store and against his will he buys a camera so he doesn't look like he's buying coke show business is so serendipity do you know how paul reiser's really excellent career started he was buying underwear in new york city in 1981 with the guy i was just talking about who's in my book as the guy who the irish guy i think i know who it is okay i don't think you knew him um i loved him he was a great guy but anyway paul and he were going shopping underwear shopping at macy's and then paul's uh mike had this uh mic okay giving it away uh had this uh audition and he said paul was just like hanging around with him he didn't have anything and he comes with and winds up with the part in diner diner barry levinson yeah because he's just funny in the lobby he how did it happen where where did i think he was just like chatting with the people in the lobby and and they just said hey you want to come in but i mean you can't uh it's crazy and also you just can't i mean you know that movie for me is uh is a really big movie because i was very aware that he had improvised a lot of his part and that barry levinson him collaborated on that character and as a kid i thought wait a second the actress couldn't make stuff up in the movie was the first time i understood about improvisation and that type of collaboration and the way all those friends talk to each other in diner yes was what i was partially copying wow knocked up and all the friends and seth because i was blown away by that movie right you've always had a troop and that guy's son is the director and writer of euphoria how weird is that no i'm saying everything there's only six people in show business but uh i'm not surprised about that's interesting that we got onto the diner thing though because now that i'm thinking about it yes i do see that dna and your dna is well first of all it's not in the hands of skip gates i mean let's make sure that this dies by the way if i was going to trust my dna with anyone he might be the one guy he does he's very honorable guy all respect to him love that guy i'm gonna send him some of my blood as an apology skip you can have my dna my blood my jizz you can have whatever you [ __ ] want my friend i'm no snob about my bodily fluids unlike some people but i mean your dna is like you are one of those uh people like i would compare you a little although much more successful of course to pj o'rourke who just passed people pj when i read the national lampoon like in the early 70s man i mean mad magazine was fine for being 10 years old but national lampoon was wicked and that was pj iraq not at the very beginning when it was good too but pj's years were i thought kind of [ __ ] amazing and that dna became saturday night live a lot of those writers michael o'donoghue yeah yeah a lot of them sense and the sensibility you know and it kind of on saturday night live you know spawned how many must most of the comedy movie stars we've had in the last 40 years will ferrell how many movies did you do with him yeah well uh pj rock was one of the first political writers like who wrote in a comedic way after lampoon yeah lymph when it was everything you know but then yes he was for rolling stone he was their correspondent and he was all over the world he was a brilliant brilliant doing that too but yeah your thing has a lot of i mean girls well it was also like the thing from barry levinson was there are people who are funny you could get to know them pay attention to how they speak how they're funny in real life and find a way to put that in the movie and that's the big thing that i took from it was oh you you meet people whatever it could be anyone that i've worked with and i'm writing with them or for them based on who they are i'm not creating a character and going act like this most of the time i'm collaborating on creating a character i was just watching the movie uh the man with one red shoe oh yeah you remember that one tom hanks yeah 1985 probably his third or fourth movie it was like i never seen it so i was like you know i see these things i have tvs like in four places like a watch in my bed that's where i watch important stuff that i actually want to watch yeah then i got stuff i have a tv a little tv in the bathroom you know yeah for the tub yeah yeah that's you're right what are you watching me with your [ __ ] google glasses newsmax in the tub uh not newsmag no i was watching the man with one wrench i like that all tapes i'll go through the movie channels like oh i never saw that i'm going to catch up with them or i'll watch this again because i liked it 20 years ago or something i don't know what how did it hold up well it didn't hold up because i'd never seen it oh hold up in time not great i didn't realize it was it's like it's the oldest joke in the world it's the guy who's mistaken for a spy it's that movie i i for some reason thought it was a little more than that but it's not it's cute it's of its error but this is the 80s and like there was no attempt uh like when you knock a guy out to look like you really could have knocked him out it's just like it's indicated and it's like okay i see the guy is supposed to be out for the plot to move along this guy has to be lying on the floor unconscious but what this man did to render him unconscious preposterously unrealistic batman it was unconscious from every punch there was a lot of somehow if you hit someone with a karate chop like from the side on the neck it was something about the the angle of your hand would just automatically put them out and then of course they would wake up and there would be no repercussions from being rendered unconscious there's always like eight people on the ground and at the end of the scene as the guy who beat him up left they would all slowly [Laughter] but not not enough to like go get them but just enough to go oh that's just terrible but that was a great ear of tom hanks because you know he does bachelor party right you know and bosom buddies and then you know then you know big and he just said i'm gonna be a great actor and time after time he just kept doing it until he completely broke through oh yeah in that way and you know he was great uh early you know it's like the early beatles stuff yeah it was different it was somewhat simpler but it's still good the jackie gleason movie remember he made that movie yes it was a great movie that was 85 i recall that was a guy who used to hang out at the emperor i wrote that i remember bud friedman being very excited about it yeah it was a father-son one i think that was the first one he did where it was okay now we're now we're in the uh you know revolver phase punchline punchline yes yes we played the comedian remember when barry silva was running around the club with tom hanks teaching him how to do stand-up i don't remember barry sobel so much but i do remember tom hanks and i remember thinking wow he's an actor actors usually are horrible approximating stand-up but he could be a stand-up and he's proved that i mean he's done snl and things yeah i saw scared they reran a sketch of him as dean martin did you see that scan he's playing dean martin and carl sagan it's like 1990 oh it's man uh dana carvey comes in as paul mccartney oh some of that stuff i mean i watched um the ben stiller some channel had it on about five years ago wow that stuff was funny and you were a kid i was a child i was 24 20 was working there um do you remember the there was a commercial for a dandruff shampoo and dandruff people and him and bob odenkirk they did a parody of that oh the uh the one where they did woody allen's dracula it was uh husbands and wives that's right with monsters with so is andy dick because francis ford coppola's dracula was out so it was like yeah but the funny thing about that sketch and this is why we were canceled is ben stiller was doing an impression of sydney pollock as frankenstein and that's that's too many levels for most people yeah i can't even picture with that yeah sydney pollock that's another see there's a director a great director an actor too and a good actor who is not nearly as famous as you even said even and he could still get a table at any [ __ ] restaurant on any day on an hour's notice well he would call up and go i directed the firm judd do i have to give you show business lessons at this late date in your life well the one or two times when my kids have seen me try to use my name and this is how you do it this is why you don't do it is if you don't have an assistant at the time and you call a restaurant and you say uh hi uh this is john apatow do you have room for two because you can't say do you have room for two because they say no you have to get the name out quick and i did it and i hung up and my daughter who was fifteen at the time turned to me and went you are such a hollywood dick that's why i love that this is morty movie because it was so i mean i say it's interesting for me to be saying this so real from someone who's never lived in a home with children but there's no children but somehow i but somehow i knew it was real you know somehow it just really that's an opus that's a terrific movie i've told you that no thanks i mean i'm trying to write this you went to a different level with that one yeah thank you which was so appropriate because 40 is sort of when you you know you first you build your life from 20 to 40 and then you live in it for you know hopefully you can [ __ ] knock wood and play jesus or something that you get yeah you know albert brooks i mean to get that opportunity to yeah albert yeah you know because the night before he would shoot scenes he would send me jokes so i'd get emails with like his punch-up ideas which is like you know your dream that you get those and they were incredible uh yeah well he was always so funny i mean modern romance was for comics that sort of like shorthand movie that we would just do lines from which i'm sure loads of people do yeah with your movies i mean super bad and i've heard all those kind of you know stuff that comes back but in the future since you have this terrible esteem problem and this horrible person booking you reservations in the future just say i'm maude apatow's father exactly well you know what isn't that the reason to have children so they can help you when you're this washed up loser this is how i know that it's my time has passed as i was i go on twitter and i see this time is not fast what the [ __ ] i'm on twitter and i see that my name is trending my name is never trended on twitter and i look it up and the first person says uh i just found out maud apatow's dad is judd apatow and then the next tweet is who the [ __ ] is trying to happen now and then the next tweet is he's he's a director and then the guy responds i don't know the name of every nerdy [ __ ] director and i was trending because people were debating that they didn't know who i was again i can only i can only say your publicist i'm sure she's a perfectly wonderful person i feel like this is not appropriate do i have to like list all the things from freaks and geeks that you did and then uh cable guy i love and anchorman pete if you just did anchorman people just say hi anchorman guy that just you don't have to leave and then you know i'm going to get your assistant to do my reservations oh you know i even mentioned my favorite movie of all is walk hard as far as just losing it yeah just laughing we like that one oh although when walk hard came out and it did not open as they say it did 2.9 million opening weekend which is not what they were hoping for i my daughter watched me take the call when i found out that it didn't make money and she said the look on my face scarred her for the rest of her life to see dad fall apart but i'm sure everyone now seen it sometimes it takes a while and you see it uncapable and it's whenever there's a new music biopic everyone watches one you know what jack rollins was woody allen's manager yes you know the famous rollins and jaffe and many other esteemed clients and you know when what he was starting he was telling his jokes at the greenwich village bottom line or one of those clubs down the the cafe club you know whatever it was it was mostly folk music and it's like early 60s and uh somebody said i'm jackie he goes up there every night and he bombs no one's laughing and jack said they're wrong sometimes they're wrong yeah you know as soon as you just takes a while yeah well that is true things bubble up that you're surprised i mean like helping mod is a movie that we got killed when it came out and uh bubble yeah well my new movie are we promoting you know i mean i think [Music] i don't forget to prove to anybody that i am doing this thing without any sort of uh yes preparation or so like i don't i barely know who's here i knew you were coming of course at some point no i knew it was today but um i've been excited about it ever since but you have they told me let's get the plug you have a movie and you're a big time director assistant bubble yes okay so this means the pandemic bubble well it's about a group of actors trying to make a flying dinosaur action movie during the pandemic in a lockdown in london so right about this somewhere so they're all stuck in the hotel having a nervous breakdown because they can't leave they're only allowed to shoot the movie and as it falls apart the studio won't let them leave and it's keegan michael key and fred armisen mckinnon and leslie mann and uh yeah that's another thing you do great is cast you know not that it's not your script and your touch but like you know the people when you with jim carrey it's hard to lose with jim carrey in that role you know i mean uh ben stiller you know uh will ferrell you uh they once asked sparky anderson when he was a manager of the reds like what his secret to managing was and he said i write pete rose's name on the lineup card that's right yeah well that's so true of it especially with this one because i thought oh this is almost like a christopher guest movie let's get 10 funny people we'll shoot in a hotel everyone having a nervous breakdown and then on another stage we'll shoot this dinosaur movie green screen and intercut them and you know that's that's the fun part for me is to so is it like a straight up comedy or is it it's a hard okay it's like so it's just it's it's literally the goofiest most bonkers movie i've made it's not emotionally grounded right it's it's more in mel brooks right which is really fun because i thought that's what people want right now they want to commiserate about how terrible this has been it's great that you can like usually like woody allen okay um you don't hear a lot about them these days we just talked about husbands and wives we could get into the yes but i'm talking about what i think is uh his unfair banishment from life but um like he was the funny early comedies right and then he morphed into more serious and remember there was not always that thing about well don't you just make a funny movie and it's like well that's not what i do so that was twitter back then he never went yeah he died the street tell you to [ __ ] off exactly it's like that cfp and comedy when the woman is on the phone she says mr langford do you talk about it he says no you should only die of cancer yes i'm right but uh what are we talking about we're just talking about the early funny comedies oh yes people would be like oh woody why don't you go bananas and just be funny but once he transitioned to i guess with annie hall like he never went back and like oh you know what ten years later i think i'm just gonna make a mancap one yeah but he could have yeah and it probably would have been good for him to do that sure but so i think it's good that you can like go back to just like your i mean i don't even think i've ever gone this hard before really yeah and so that's really fun and also i've never worked with special effects i mean everything i've ever done just two people talking in a restaurant so to actually have to design flying dinosaurs and and work with the people from industrial light magic to make it look like one of those movies i had never done any of that before and then find a way to do dick jokes with dinosaurs you were good at everything you did still are thank you all right thanks i could talk to you all night but you know i have a day job [Music] ever since you got me that 500 i've been your biggest fan there you go i think i got you one for five grand after that and i feel like really yeah that could have been

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Length: 63min 25sec (3805 seconds)

Published: Sun Apr 03 2022

Reddit Comments

[u/annmarie311]

Who was the comedian "Mike" whose name slipped out, and that he had previously referred to as an Irish comedian earlier in this episode as well as the one with Quentin Tarantino? 🤔

[u/ssa111]

Not a fan of the camera shot of Bill that's shot from behind and over Judd Apatow's head. Makes it look like Bill's getting blown. Loved the content though.

[u/FawltyPython]

Apatow needs to either dye the black Hitler stash grey, or just dye his whole beard black.

[u/VersusTheMoose]

I feel like Bill thrives best in a diner party setting.

I will watch more later, though.

[u/istrebitjel]

Even when I'm high I can't stand watching people constantly forgetting what they were talking about...

[u/SadPatient28]

when is Joe Rogen visiting?

[u/Delta632]

These have been great up to this point and I’m looking forward to this episode.

[u/LoMeinTenants]

Murderer's row of guests so far. I'm curious why so few get booked for Real Time.