Lisa Kudrow | Club Random with Bill Maher

oh wait we're not supposed to hug because of the mics can you still hear the omicron i said oh no i don't hug and then i forgot because it's full of monkey pox [Laughter] no that's the old dean martin show where he didn't know who the guest was do you remember that no you don't you don't remember the dean martin show no really really young for that oh well i might be a little it came unless my parents watched it i don't think they did i bet you your mother did my mother had such a boner for dean martin and that show he was a very attractive guy yeah and he and of course that character he played sort of a character who was like drunk he really wasn't drunk but he did really oh he really wasn't ever no really any but he really did only show up for the taping you know so they were he had these these three broad called the gold diggers something you would wait no that i sounds familiar yes and they would lead him literally lead him and just prop him up in front of the card which he would read up which made it funnier right right right you know and there was one section of the show where he didn't he walked it was at the piano with his piano guy tinkling and and it was like and the door would open i tell if it's geraldine or sammy davis he had no idea i really think that was true i did know i mean i have been asking from the beginning i said if i can get you here what hipper person for this little uh place what really you didn't why why would you think i wouldn't want you i mean i would never want anyone here first of all in my house who i did who i didn't adore oh my god i'm so happy to hear that well why didn't you go big disappointment disappointment no because i'm in awe of you oh i adore you see that's why but i don't assume it's a two-way street of course i live in the real world oh no this is my home this is i mean i don't know this is only for fun yeah this whole thing i mean i did yeah are you liking it oh my god i mean look i'm not gonna lie i spent quite a bit of money so that we could you know set this place i mean it's almost like a reality show combined with the podcast but that's the way i wanted it so that we could have you know i mean there's a lot of podcasts and i find them some are great but they're you know there's a big penis mic in your face i haven't done that one you know there's a giant i've done the one with the big flat flower in your face what's that like vagina yeah i've seen those i went too far i went to well out of i wanted just to be like the way i really am except there's no music that always you know of course we can't while we're talking but it just feels like there is something missing and everything else feels right it's just us there's nobody else in the room there's liquor and these club cigarettes i don't know what they're putting in these things but let me tell you these are too bad you're not allowed to know i know that's the story well cloves um do you know i know you're a history buff do you uh know anything about the history of cloves no we'll make it up okay me make it up yeah oh okay well tobacco was for export so they couldn't afford to let regular folks smoke it isn't that interesting but that sounded possible right so incredibly real like if you had if i had not set it up like make it up i would have just gone with it i could make up anything yeah many of us could you know when the kids feel bad about not knowing [ __ ] i always try to comfort them by saying you know we all don't know like i mean when you think of the infinite amount of things that you could possibly know in this world even the smartest person does not even know 0.1 right yeah we're almost fully ignorant of everything what we you know obviously some people more than others no and then the things you learn you don't remember so that's too bad that's true that part it's really too bad i think that has something to do with the clothes i don't know i can't make a direct correlation but well you know now but we'll know they're doing studies with clothes and cognition can i make you a drink or no i have water you that's all you want yeah you're out i know it's five o'clock you're absolutely so it's okay it's five o'clock somewhere oh wait here uh are you upstimus yeah i don't drink a lot i mean you said i'm stemius so i thought okay abstaining abstaining abstain uh abstemious doesn't that mean you yeah you're are you no uh with drinking the only time i drink really is here oh really i yes i i used to drink um you know like an irishman i was never a drunk although i certainly have been drunk many times but uh i drank irishly you know which is not good for your liver i'm sure yeah and you know i don't want to be look like ted kennedy at you know so i you know especially now that he's dead but even before you know that that kind of no it takes a toll especially if you're irish really well sure because you're lighter yeah you know it's like the opposite of black don't crack cracks the most european all europeans are pretty white but more so the the for some well like the beautiful people of the nordic countries somehow are even further north but they have that beautiful olive skin usually they do yes olive yes wait why doesn't that sound even a little bit right to me you mean the like blonde scandinavian yes scandinavian of course they don't look like the gaelic people my people they're not ruddy wait a minute what's ready what is well that's think of somebody like uh you know uh kennedy yeah okay right i'll sort a name out but not kennedy but not jack kennedy he looked more well he had makeup always he was just a good-looking guy yeah it's it's funny how in families sometimes there's just you know siblings and one of them is the good-looking one yeah you know bobby well he was good-looking not like jack he was a little was he that good looking though he was just he was sexier because he was grittier i guess i think not my type i think that's not your type no a jack kennedy no but a bobby kennedy was a little cuter to me physically cuter yeah see most people would say not that they would say the reverse right and and i even think that you're you know as a woman who are deeper and feel things on a deeper level well it's true especially in this subject it's like the physical part is not as important to you i think something about bobby kennedy is getting to you in your deep woman way maybe but here i misled i was just comparing but none of the kennedys are my type none of the kids no no because of their look or because of their their actions their teeth their teeth no yeah what yeah what's wrong with their teeth i don't know that's the british who have the bad teeth no it's not that they had bad teeth but i didn't like their teeth i just didn't like it i don't uh-uh no they all looked like i did this and inflect i mean infect your view of their politics no no well i was well i was you wouldn't not vote for someone good to their teeth it's a good role would you well um i don't like bill clinton's teeth no but i um no but i was i was born when um john kennedy was killed 63 yeah then yeah and i was five when bobby kennedy was right so no no i mean i didn't have politics about them but my parents were huge fans saw her mine yeah but this was my father again irish catholic and you know i mean and my father my grandfather had a full brogue really yes he was from uh no but he was i guess second generation everybody yeah so but this is i mean a man i never met but it's funny if i had done your show instead of skip gates's show yeah we would have voted did i see it did i watch all of the shows i guess i don't remember them when did you do it i would say four years ago oh shoot something like that i'll rewatch it um okay sounds like i'll re-watch it i mean but yours your show was fantastic i mean it's a great idea for a show and the way you make it as a history major i appreciate it oh you're a history major i was in college yeah you know that's a lot more history than oh yeah i know everyone learns in high school right or i love history and i love when you weave in it yeah um no because that's why i loved this show because it's history but it's the personal stories right that drive at home it's the actual effect more interesting like why can't they teach it but when i did the his show this the my genealogy for skip i mean the star of that was my grandfather who again i never met but he was a he was a baller he was a macho guy he ran the boatsman's union oh in new jersey and new york you know the circle daylight of the stuff that went around man and this is the in the days when the irish ran new york right every cop every fireman you know yeah so and this isn't part of the teamsters because that's it's no no that's truck this is this yeah this is nautical okay and it was also what happened i guess on the ports because he had a headline from and it was my grandfather called a strike and was brought up to the white house because it had to be settled because this was the port of new york oh yeah but he was a union captain who got in the days when i mean they what what what unions had to fight for back then was like you know yeah we would like a 14-hour work day and we're not going to and you could only whip them if that you know it was just crazy what he had to fight you don't get to choose who we marry yeah yeah crazy [ __ ] yeah so that was my grandfather wow william moore also my i would have been william mar iii if i had been confirmed uh in the catholic church because i would have been william aloysius mar that was my grandfather's name and my father's name and i was supposed to be william aloysius moore but you get your come from your middle name or your confirmation the catholics so and i never made it that far i didn't know that yeah but you're still is that's not your given name like the birth certificate doesn't i have no middle name because you're supposed to get it at 30 wait you're supposed to get it at 13 when you're confirmed that's a big thing in the catholic church at seven you have your first communion that traumatized me like i can't even tell you and then thirteen you're confirmed i don't know what it's so just like the bar mitzvah why did it traumatize him what you know nuns yeah [ __ ] sadists and you know they were well of course well some of them are nice i assume on trouble with angels they were really nice but i mean well nuns are married to christ and apparently he's not putting out okay because they have a kind of a anger issues that you only get when you've never been late i don't know what it was and i was seven years old all i know is one of them one day uh for example this this one sticks in my mind said uh you know we're in the church and they're doing their [ __ ] up there and i guess i was like you know and she said the boy who's slumping is going to go to hell oh wow they did [ __ ] like that wait a minute okay but i thought your mom your mom jewish is jewish right that i never even knew until i was 13 because i was so traumatized by going to church i didn't even think why doesn't mom come i don't know she just never does it never crossed my mind to ask i just wanted to get out of it but i thought it was tricky for a catholic to marry a jew it was how how did that all happen especially in 1951 when they did it was like an interracial marriage not even today right like 20 years ago yeah well it was in the 60s too and even into the 70s it was sort of starting to get like wow did you watch mad men yeah remember the first season or second there was a plot line um he goes out with the girl from the jewish department store yeah yeah i mean they had their own jews had their own department store or owned a very successful department store right but i mean like i think gimbals yeah the real gimbals was that yeah i think in a day when what what what oh i'm just saying how [ __ ] to shop yes well just the idea that this was the early 60s and gentiles and jews shopped separately in departments wait i wasn't aware of that i wasn't aware of that are you sure history major i'm not sure that uh a jew couldn't walk into macy's they did i guess so yeah yes but it seemed to me like he was cross like he was he was of course cheating on his wife as he always was right but also he was sort of like crossing into a different world is the way they sort of presented it and i think people don't realize how much jew and gentile you know i mean when kennedy ran in 60 it was a big deal that he was catholic right yeah yeah you know yeah yeah this country is always changing as people are always changing and growing and and getting used to each other's differences progressing these people who cannot help themselves from looking backward and saying you know what you people were so benighted back then and i you know what if you had lived back then with us you would have been the same [ __ ] right history is very much like humans it's like looking at your own life and going what a dick i was at eight yeah oh i can't believe i spent all that time thinking about baseball cards dumb ass you know it's it's childish yeah yeah right yeah but what's childish but what part's childish the childish part is making is feeling superior oh you are woker now but it's not you are better you just are living in a different time right you would have been just like us yes we all wore big hair in the 80s yeah right yeah i don't know if my hair was that big but because you know i wasn't that in step but yeah no no it's true you're not in step you mean you were with big hair i thought nobody wanted to look up generally you were an outsider you're saying i was a little yeah a little moody you know i'm so yeah a little bit moody you know and doing 80s yeah well starting growlings and figuring out my comedic voice and you know all of that was the most important thing ever so that's all i was thinking about i really didn't want to look like absolutely everybody else because i didn't think i'd do well if i was trying to but um no but i mean getting back to what you were saying though because i was talking about this like in the context of who do you think you are because we're going to be on soon and and i was saying you know it's i think it's really important to know our history and understand how it informed how our society worked yes and what was tolerated that you know there were people thought it was perfectly okay to own another human being you know that's ever but you know let's have some context to that they thought that everywhere in the world yeah but not 30 years after everywhere else in the world stopped doing it south and in america in the south we were we've been we have brought up the rear on a number of issues yeah that's one of them uh we 80 countries i think have had a woman leader oh we have not universal healthcare most of the big boy countries have a much better system you know yes nothing is perfect in that realm but and don't get me started but remember when medicine wasn't uh wasn't big business because that in the 70s it wasn't it was still like the healing arts well we i mean health care is a mess in this country for many reasons but the top two probably would be for me yes the corporate element of it the fact that a hospital is run very much like an airline they don't want any empty seats on an airplane and they don't want any empty beds that's why when there's a crisis they're overrun they should have excess like space but that would hurt the bottom line right so that's huge and the other huge thing i think is that the people the people are just so incredibly unhealthy to begin with and that is absolutely something i lay at the doorstep of the medical establishment who doesn't have the balls to tell them what's what they should and shouldn't do and of course the how cozy the pharmaceutical industry is with the medical industry and i mean i'm not saying it's all corruption i mean obviously culvert was a real thing and i have many qualms about how we handled it but i mean that's not anybody's fault but if the population wasn't so fundamentally unhealthy to begin with we would not have devastated this country the way it did we had a worse outcome than any other country oh we did yes it turns out that we did proportionally i think so yeah i mean i seem to remember that headline a couple of months ago um i mean i'm sure there are variations and per capita and blah blah blah but i mean it was over a million people and of course that's a a fuzzy stat also because right they don't really make any difference between dying of covet and dying with covert right and anyone with medical sophistication understands that everything in medicine is a combination of factors we are supported by wine enthusiasts you know the old saying wine women in song i used to say in my stand-up act that out of the three if you had to lose one song i loved music but yes song 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starting to hear more and more about personalized medicine like a doctor who's practicing personalized medicine so that not just going by looking into what else about your physical makeup and your biology might be contributing to whatever symptoms or what's going on instead of just treating cortisone well um yeah i mean or calling it this time i thought that was not that syndrome because there's other things informing it i mean that's a lot of holistic medicine right what i would call holistic medicine right well that's now they're calling it personalization they don't want a sound right they don't sound like hippies right that's that word guts right that's that's quack stuff right i don't say that i mean some of it is i'll tell you interesting thing about and i have had a holistic doctor who i think changed my life as much as anybody and i'm very grateful i he absolutely knows that i don't agree with everything yeah and i also definitely want a md doctor also i think you need both to balance yeah well you get you might get more information right too that you can decide about but so like you know i got it started to get into it this is like almost 20 years ago and um you know everything is super natural which i totally get that i remember the first time we went out socially there was one restaurant in all of l.a he would go to that was pure enough wait who would my this is my holistic doctor oh okay so like and you know he just wouldn't have anything you know no bread no like down the line uh natural natural natural no antibiotics of course no pharmaceuticals no this no that no sugar nothing but then um very big on colonics oh which may or may not i remember that trend it's i don't think it's a trend i think but point being like if you're like natural natural natural when you think about sticking water up your ass the word that comes to mind is not natural it's not like if i was just standing around with a garden hose in my hand i would absent mindedly just stick it up my head you know so for everything to be natural natural natural and also stick water up your ass right no it's not something that naturally occurs right but it also might be very good for you i don't know if it's really good for you nobody knows anything right in medicine thank you nobody that's i'm always trying to push this point yes just you know what i accept where we are i have to what could i do elsewhere in the year 2022. yes in 2052 they're not going to look back and go boy in 2022 we pretty much had it all figured out medically didn't we were just crossing the tees and dotting these they're going to do what they do every seven years which is yeah we were wrong about right that that's what i was saying yeah just don't give me the attitude of just do what we say because when have we ever been wrong right all the time all the time and all the time and it's not mostly your fault it's just again like the year we live in no but just be honest we don't really know right but what's recommended and there's some studies that show this might work their associative studies not cause and effect so we can't know absolutely but here's all i have to offer yeah go for it but don't say like they did no honey for your pregnancy you need to take des for for you know you're pregnant and we need you're nauseous so you'll just take what's yes this estrogen right that caused all kinds of reproductive problems in the in the kids that were did you take it no no not me i mean my mom's generation your mom's generation and you know i do know a lot of people who have reproductive problems because of it but they gave it to all the women no back then no but they were offering it a lot right just like in the 20s they were offering women offering insisting yeah you need um some opium i mean we have to give you yeah because you're history or hysterical right you're going through the change and you're hysterical or you just had a baby so you're hysterical right and yet all these people it's the same it's the same crisis we're having yes and we had it in the 20s it all happened and then the government made it illegal and and they went to heroin you had the exact same problem we just repeated history and in 100 years this will be the 20s that they're talking about when the same attitude that we're talking about the 1920s things will seem incredibly primitive in their thinking and just very wrong yeah i mean simple things like they very often misdiagnose fungal infections for bacterial infections they treat everything with antibiotics first of all there's a lot of money in it but it's also just where like they're not i'm not saying they're trying to be corrupt it's just like right right well i don't know you know somebody's trying to make money well yes and also but the doctors are just trying to give you the the best information they have yes and also they listen to the patients too much you know ask your doctor we're only one of two countries that has direct to consumer advertising for pharmaceuticals yeah so you should never be like hey doc can i get some of that sure the cute rep from the pharmaceutical company was by this afternoon and she strutted her ass in here and winked at me and i bought a whole pastel of this and they're taking me on this cruise in a couple of months you know that [ __ ] goes on yeah with doctors i know and so and it's very easy just to pass out antibiotics and vicodin and especially if you're one of these low rent you know i certainly have heard the stories from people who go to the one on the corner in the you know urgent care and it's it's like i've heard harrowing stories just terrible decisions that these people are making because they don't care they're not really your doctor right you know i mean it's like i know my mechanic better than that you know so look at me uh-huh i don't i don't even i don't know anyone but he just did like a you right there you did that like you were reading a line and uh you that's why you're so good i'm excited because you're disingenuous yeah you're lying you know i've never seen you in anything where you didn't kill it and you're like yeah you it's so funny the way you like you know you never seem to want to be out front you just want to like be the one who steals it and you always do well i just want to be the one who steals it that would be funny that's what i tell my agent no just find me something where i can steal it oh yeah and i don't know when the last time i saw you but because you know these globes but like if i never told you how big a fan i was of the comeback oh you today would be the time really we never talked about that i don't think so i don't know i have secondary clove right issues and the reboot but i i mean i'm most proud of that you should be that was a genius show and i am not an easy complimenter and i don't [ __ ] that's why i don't have people here i don't like because i'm not a good liar yeah so i can't like pretend you know yeah then i'm really into you know yeah danny bonaducci i'm sorry danny if you're listening actually i'd love to have you on i guess i have to say that now uh but you know i like danny bonnett i do like of course goddammit why can't we get him on this show well but uh the comeback was yeah that was just thanks i mean i saw them all multiple times really yes yeah the just everybody was you know that the actor i don't know his name i don't think i ever did who played the uh heavyset writer producer who was mean to you yeah i've seen lance he yeah he's on young sheldon he plays the father oh yeah he finally you know people thought stop thinking he's really mean i was just gonna say barbara he was so so good good and there was something about that show that was so real and of course i lived that world of sitcoms too uh-huh you know but it wasn't that i mean it is universal but were you on were you on writing staffs no no no not on sitcoms no no so i know that tension with the writing right especially when you're a comedian and they kind of hired you for to be funny and they did use a lot of i was on that show sarah do you remember that with gina davis oh it was 1985 yeah yeah not that much before you ran you're right ten years yeah 85 94 we started right but wait so they would they would um encourage you to pitch lines and alternatives and stuff absolutely and they used them yeah yeah sure i mean it made their job easier but they also could be inside i do appreciate that though when they do a lot that means that they really do want the best show so it doesn't matter where it comes from because i think it's a bigger disaster when their ego you're right gets in the way of right wherever the great line comes from what do you care but i was 28 and stupid and this is my first job and i didn't sometimes get it like one time i remember we the first run through we always you know on the mondays i remember that whole schedule and you know the read through right and then the first time they see it on its feet what they wrote their first draft yeah and like i had changed lines and i remember gary david goldberg saying to me could we hear ours once yeah you know before you tell me it's [ __ ] i was told that too [Applause] and then pitch your thing that's amazing it's easy courtesy it's easy that's why it sucks being young there's good reasons why it's great well young you're trying to prove yourself and you're stupid and that was just stupid it was just [ __ ] stupid and it's just i gotta no you gotta know that i've got good ideas before you i don't have the opportunity to no you don't know that i do yeah it's stupid gary david goldberg it's okay who got that show canceled because he had a shoving match with brandon tardikov at a taping oh so he could be volatile and i could have set him off and he was always nice to me he never like for whatever reason sometimes you're so young and dumb that they they know that they can't really hold it against you because it's like blaming the dog you know yeah or they don't care but just worse he cared but yeah that show got canceled yeah when there was a shoving match can you believe that between he was at the time one of the most powerful producers in television but was it a good show sarah you know it was what a sitcom in the 80s was i think it was a little above average it did pretty well in the ratings oh wow so that is what you know gina was coming off a couple of movies she was a very rising yeah alfred woodard oh my god and brunson pinchot were the other three we were four lawyers in san francisco uh they felt after like half the episodes we needed a boss oh so then they brought in a boss figure you know how they thought the networks those kind of notes and yeah we they made friends get an adult um hire someone to play the part of someone who keeps us in order right so god bless martin david like all right we'll try but yeah yeah and there was a neighbor with a kid so they could get a kid in the show but that was sort of shoehorn kids always make shows fly you had to well i guess they did because for the longest time didn't every show have to have a kid i remember yeah but you have to have great kids i mean roseanne had great kids sarah gilbert was so great and yeah they were great those kids they were really truly funny i remember after i did that sitcom and then i did a and went on show time called hard knocks well that sounds familiar and then i did one with sam kinnison in 1990 and then uh really yeah was very short-lived and he was on heroin so it didn't really work shoot but um should have been called shoot but i remember there was also a period there like 89 1991 when i was like i'd done a few of these sitcoms so i was like pitching i was at that point where you pitch your own sometimes and you know they would you get the notes and um i did how to deal with fox i remember i went to the uh something they had like where they were showing the advertisers their new shows or some [ __ ] yeah the up front yeah but it wasn't must have been like some of them weren't picked up yet okay this was one of them would you buy ads for this right it was one of those and apparently they were like no we would not we would not sell toothpaste it was called bill gets a life and really i i couldn't make that up and uh yeah they they were like there was that you need a kid discussion for you yes for bill gets a life bill maher needs a kid in the show it was just like we work for the network they're paying us we have to pretend we know something and are doing something so wait did you write it too yeah you were did you write the pilot um i worked it was gary shandling had a production deal yeah and we had the same manager and so like it was we we worked on it together the pilot okay and then i mean i wrote a bunch of other episodes just hoping they would pick it up but they didn't but of course it was never my calling as it is it was yours to act yeah well well do you know gary shan i was so in awe of gary shandling of course and i was brought in to audition for um larry sanders before it was on like a pilot and i was so excited janine garofalo's role oh yeah i don't remember the character's name and you know i i i came in and i was just sort of being me and i wish i could remember exactly i think this was it he said he's gary said so we're gonna read this together and he was being funny which was funny and i just said oh okay so i'm not reading it alone all right and uh he just went oh yeah okay and we read it and then you know i wasn't chit chatting because i knew for auditions you're not there to make friends right you know he's going to do that i'll just respond with a joke same you know but maybe a little too dry you know and then and i y and i left and i'm walking down it's a very long haul and i hear the door open and he's peeking out looking really scared like to make sure that i'm leaving the building and i'm like i don't know and i'm kind of smiling like he's so funny we're still doing our bit and he's like we will call we will we really will call and you're kind of all right and i keep going and i'm like it wasn't a bit he's really scared of me oh my god i was too dry i didn't wink enough at you know the bit it had nothing to do with the scene well like whatever i did like just joking back was didn't i hated it can you imagine because i've loved him so much it's like wouldn't it mean so much that you know gary shandling thinks i'm funny and i'm sure gary chandling thought you were there's no way in the world oh please no he it was he's a quirky guy i mean you're describing a moment in time and with a quirky guy like gary shandling i loved him but yes a little unpredictable at any given moment um i mean we had a moment working on that thing together that was highly unpleasant oh it happens in show business yeah people cross and again young listen i just thought of this speaking of how stupid i could have been in a room when i first auditioned out here i didn't understand that uh the producers sometimes just said producers were the writers well me neither okay right so i read for the two producers and then i go who wrote this [ __ ] i swear to god that happened thank god i know and i live to tell the devil i mean like many times i feel like i could have like i'm sorry that is stupid even if they're not the writers they're still producing it i know so it's not like someone's got a gun to their head to produce it i just again and i bet a lot of people in america can relate to this the word producer is very fuzzy it kind of still is for us because it's like it could really mean anything so i kind of had in my head producer you know dory sherry you know sitting at home with us right phone you know like hello i'm here from galactic pictures and i'd like to see that uh audition from bill maher that was the producer not the writers the writers were scribes you know they were like guys and t-shirts and so i just thought oh these are the producers and uh they probably think they must know that this is [ __ ] it's so funny i know i was tempted at times so that they would know that i know that it's no good it's like what does that get you it doesn't get you anywhere but to this day when someone says they're a producer i still have 500 questions like a concierge or like a writer like what what form does your role as producer take is it creative at all or are you a line producer like you actually get the show done like right no it's it's almost anything and then of course it gets muddied even more because the inflation of the title that anyone who is anything on the show i've seen 20 producer people and i know these are the writers they just want a producer credit because then you're in that union or it's all that kind of [ __ ] so we don't know what well it's a it's a promotion and then you're working your way up to executive producer once you get executive producer they can trust you to create a show maybe run a show right but people get you get a piece of the show but you can read a you're headed for you can read a name on a screen and it's all it says is produced by and it's somebody and that is a straight-up writer right that person does no producing they are just on a writing staff doing the writing yeah wonder how that happened because the title is worth something it's like a cab medallion union even allowed the title for you know like there's a there's the producers guild right and there's the writer's guild like how was it allowed that's what how come you can't just say i'm a director too that's what agents you know there's no crossover there we are supported by signalwire if you're a developer or product builder trying to add video communication to your app or service there is no good option you either build from scratch which can take forever or try to repurpose an existing app like zoom or as i like to call it hey you froze but what if you could have out of 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shift for me with regards to the comeback because we had gotten cancelled and i didn't feel bad about it because i felt like well someone made a mistake and that's their mistake we did the best show we could someone didn't like it or i don't know what nothing i can do about that i'm just proud of what we did honestly i felt fine and then um you know people kept saying especially business people i'm getting to you but business you know like executive types or people who ran networks that i happen to know you know would say what happened with ratings bad no they were the same if not better than entourage that started the you know season before i i well it must have been something i said i don't know michael thought maybe because you know we don't have a point of point of reference for a woman in that role you know and that's what it is uh that's what it is wait wait i don't understand it what am i what does that mean point of reference for a woman for a woman who um is um the leader is a woman the not just the lead but flawed and having that kind of ego and be humiliating too flawed and well you know setting herself up for humiliation you know kept stepping into that so but but and i couldn't i was like yeah that's fine how is that though and how could i forget is that possibly it then you said something i was watching your show and it wasn't related it was just that you were talking about someone made a joke at the expense of you know someone who's you know from a marginalized group and i don't remember specifically what it was and you said come on you know i i'm i'm all for humor is humor and it should be allowed okay but you don't make fun of the victim you know that's not going to work and that's when the penny dropped and i went because women are not the people in power they're not like the like the white guy in power and women are kind of that marginalized group and it really bothered a lot of people to watch a woman get humiliated all the time i feel like that's a um a casualty of an audience that was i'm sorry the people who didn't get it or just not sophisticated enough to appreciate it and that's fine there are things i am unsophisticated in and i do not appreciate hockey for example yeah okay uh and uh yeah and other and others i'm i'm stupid like watching um like like murky thriller mystery types i that's when i need a girlfriend that's you know someone who i'm always watching a movie with like honey what happened there with the guy yeah oh that's the same guy oh i didn't see that where he put the paper down you know that that's where a girlfriend would be good or anyone watching it not that i'm paying close not that i'm a lonely guy i'm just saying the kind of person you're watching movies with and you can always ask but uh so we're all dim in our own ways but they're missing like that is the what's no genius about that character is that you know she that's what's funny i mean it's falling between a man behaving like that and a woman behaving like that it's like that's how people who are driven towards something like the spotlight yeah they're going to just make no i don't i don't think that's what it was you don't no because i think everybody i think that's what made it very relatable because this subject matter is very specific that is where you lost people because it's like what is this world to us it's our world but and also the level of subtlety in the comedy that you were working with is something that that's what made me love this show so much and watch it multiple times because the level of the subtlety but that that's my business or my mind or whatever many people that kind of subtlety is just not in the realm of possibility for them to appreciate yeah i don't mean that as a put that i just mean no no i'll give it a second let me give you an example of a scene you were talking the gay makeup guy yeah mickey mickey yeah okay you run into this other guy and you're asking about some other friend i mean i think they were they were both gay and so that was in the mix of the scene and it was so brilliant because you never enunciated what we were thinking and yet we knew it was because they tell you they give you this piece of information oh no he died and you react you never say the word age right but you you're like oh and then he goes oh no he was hit by a car crossing barham and you go oh good no not good right and like encapsulated in that 13 seconds of genius comedy right that's how you know she thought it was aids so much but without ever saying it right to me that is the genius of that show i also see how other people go what was that conversation why is that funny yeah right yeah and that's that we i i have the same sort of issue with stuff i mean there one reason i started this podcast is because lots of people just are not interested in politics or what's really you know that kind of stuff at all they're interested in more human stuff that they are relatable to everybody's lives they don't want to hear about ukraine and the u.n and the [ __ ] aclu and abortion and and that's fine and they never will and i will never get them but this anybody can listen to this yeah because you just want to entertain i i just want to get high with you that's what i all really that's what i want to do but i do just want to entertain honestly i mean i do think there's not entertain that makes me sound like ginger from gilligan's island oh my god yeah no i don't but i but i i i do think it's really necessary sweetheart you don't have to [ __ ] convince me on that one i am all about the idea that we're all just in entertainment we use different clay yeah you know i don't see my people bill you're a pundit well you know i i think i am selling wisdom out there yes i think the country's [ __ ] dumb and they do need me to straighten it out i'm not gonna lie about that but i if i i i my main thing is i'm entertaining yeah and i if i'm not i'm i'm nothing right because that's how i look at [ __ ] if you don't entertain me like you know the we did a funny thing about a year ago when not this oscar batch but the one before was just incredibly lugubrious mm-hmm you know minari and uh you know the nomad land and there were it was just debbie downer time mm-hmm you know and we did all it was funny about like come on you know it's got to be a little entertaining and yes we understand there are issues and you can but hollywood did used to know how to take an issue but also make it not just sad yeah right yeah so when you say you're out to entertain you had me and hello with that one yeah well i think everyone needs a break i mean that's what everyone wants really badly they really want to break but by the way your show you're there's no you have no agenda you're just you're just a very funny person and you're being really honest about what and brave about what you think about things and how you feel about how people respond to what you think too like you know like you know i actually said like you know but um yeah and no and there's a lot of value in that there's a lot of value in that but we both i think have these kind of careers where we got the memo fairly early on there is somewhat of a ceiling for us yeah and and there's a ceiling created by the fact that you know there are levels of subtlety that you know everybody can go and enjoy what's the room yeah right i mean it's a billion dollar yeah opening and a billion people will see it we're not playing in that no i don't see yeah and we don't we can't imagine we can't we don't know we really don't even want to right i can't imagine anyone asking me to be in well yeah you'd be maverick three or whatever you know you know it would be great actually you would you would [ __ ] steal that and also make it it would be so great if they actually did that or you were in i know but who's going wait are you 16 because it would be great but you don't look anywhere near 60. oh good yeah you look great thank you you always did thank you i always thought you i mean i always had a little crush on you and friends because i thought you were the smart one on your show and i like scott and and i was quite frankly the smart one on my show oh wait i was the only one on my show which makes you the smartest yes but i mean not that everybody on the show wasn't smart they were all smart everybody's smart yeah they are they're smart well but they are they are they really actually yeah and they're all good learned a lot from them yeah but i would say even they probably would agree if you had to vote for who was the smartest it would probably be you who's the smartest who's the one that drones on and on about things we don't want to talk about who's the one that has a theory about something is that what you did yeah really oh i always i'm always like what's my i'm like what's my theory behind that you know but you have a lot of time to get the evidence while they're setting up and [ __ ] right that's what i remember but i would bring up you know look well no i'm watching cnn you got to see what's happening here it's very important and you know they didn't want to get into that okay yeah no i'll be i'll be back will you tell me what happened yeah what were they talking about um things that people talk about i mean other things yes right that of course you weren't but not for as long as i'm not me i was 30 when we started 30 ha ha 30s same thing yeah but yeah but people in their 20s generally tend to be more you know first of all sort of like naval gazing i mean it's like your first i always say you're you're born twice in life once when you're actually born what i'm going to calling me oh on your phone i mean on your watch oh for [ __ ] sake i can't even i dismissed it no no no i just don't i don't i never saw anybody like get a call on their watch because my phone's just right there but what i know so it rings on here but why do you need i don't know that's not my extra layer of that's not why i have it why do you have it i like to know what time it is but you didn't have to get a watch that hooked up to your phone and it also tells me you know if i've taken any steps today or was i just sitting in my chair all day but your brain knows that not anymore bill what are you saying you're an android you're like do you know that you know ray kurzweil huh no oh he's an author they won't it's really important i guess it is all right i'll let you get out of here if you need to but he's he's a amazing thinker and scientist and professor and uh he's been right about predict predicted a lot of amazing things like down to the year like the fall of the soviet union oh wow um but he's uh he predicts he's he has a book called the singularity which says in 2028 man and machine will basically become i mean that's only six years away now of course we're already part way there people do have parts in them that are machine parts yes with computers in it some of them even yes so with things that communicate i mean as you and i are you know punching old edge in the mouth do you is this something that like you would consider like because i sure would really well i mean if i could just keep my brain and my dick the right favorite thing the rest of it you can [ __ ] replace your two favorites now that's really good because they have a sibling rivalry why argue he's always gonna win but uh still that's pretty good yeah that is pretty good we'll be right back right now um do you have to take your call or i mean no absolutely okay all right i know i i'm just so grateful yeah grateful you're here i was long enough wait can i ask you one question you didn't ask me anything we're sitting around drinking what was what did what field of history what were you studying well i was at cornell and i was trying to establish that i knew i loved history taught myself american history could name all the american presidents in a row if you forced me to not because i haven't memorized this because i know the history i think i could anyway um so i did love medieval that really called to me and i remember i mean this is before computers so we were in the stacks you know the library i loved the stacks yeah the stacks see you're the smart one you're in the stacks the girl in the stacks that'd be a good romantic song or a movie that i'll never write but so the girl in the stacks everybody well i'll see you tomorrow nice kind of sexy that title a girl in the stacks here yeah yeah but it would have to be a period piece because there's no more stuck yeah but i remember being in there these dusty old books and i was writing some paper on the something in the medieval period and the professor um he's talking about the paper or something and he said i asked him a question and he said um well it doesn't matter you you know after at this point there's really nothing new you could add to this and i'm like then what the [ __ ] am i doing with this as a major now mind you i knew i was going to be a comedian when i was 10. oh okay so i when i was at college i really wasn't trying to get a degree that would get me a job i knew what i was going to do okay you know go and uh so the grades weren't you weren't out for i got to get an a i no but i did anyway i was always wow i was a straight a student in high school i missed one day of high school wow covent and uh no but uh i i loved the subject like if i had like a 28-hour day i would spend two of them read just reading history wow i don't agree with that professor though there's no such thing but it was discouraging right how are you to know then no because i got it i was younger than when i was the idiot who said who wrote this [ __ ] you can imagine how stupid i was then well [Laughter] no [Laughter] it's almost beyond no but yes because i've got to say doing who do you think you are and the historians you know that that give us context for whatever the person is looking at um there's so many there are different interpretations of history so well my question is so would you read different historians who had differing opinions about certain events well there's and yeah i mean there's there's always someone who wants to be a revisionist based on new letters they found new information based on they have to publish something okay yeah that's a problem too that's a lot of academia is such a scuzzy area i know it's people think i'm sure there's plenty of professors now like dropping their pipes how dare you yes i'm sure there's exceptions and yes we need colleges and universities and but but a lot of it is they know this better than anybody political and what you publish and and yes sometimes you just have to find i don't think that professor was wrong when he said that when i if i was researching the venerable bead or somebody he who lived in 690 in lindisfarne in the monastery no we're not gonna find anything new about this [ __ ] anything that came out about this guy we know i think there's no more venerable bead stuff that's kind of tmz is not going to come out tomorrow it's a story about the venerable tmz won't but who knows sometimes there's a letter there's a something somewhere but even without that it's just i don't know like you know and then you have archaeology where they find new things about how people were what they were well that's if someone was poisoned or well that that doesn't happen that often that can but where that does happen a lot of course is in early man history that is always changing because they don't have the complete fossil record at all they have pieces here and pieces there don't get me started on the fossil record no evolutionary biology was what i was interested in before comedy yeah before comedy yeah that's what i'm studying in school and yeah well that's why i always thought for your for your genealogy show you should have on uh lucy okay lucy yeah the very first who better but not the very first anymore i don't think well early early i'm related to her i think we're all related to her who i don't know tell the audience who lucy is lucy was about well i don't know when i don't have the details 2.5 million years ago that's it yes lucy lucy was about four feet tall and lived about two and a half million years ago and is one of our direct ancestors yeah um humans came along you know like 200 000 years ago and of course we are not the only human species we wipe the other ones out you know wherever um have you read the great book sapiens no oh that's you love it no i didn't that is a book for you you'd love that book okay because it talks about well many things about sapiens but one wherever humans went the fossil record is very clear we killed everything including the other human species yeah and the other big animal species like there's a whole bunch of species for example in australia and then humans arrive and a thousand years later we don't have any fossils from those big animals they just [ __ ] killed them all like the way the people killed the buffalo in our american west just for fun and just like well for fun they're food food but they killed a lot of buffalo just because i mean they would just they would have a herd and they were just two there was too many to use the indians of course used all the buffalo right we were the opposite yeah and we're still those [ __ ] yeah that's right when when are we going to stop being surprised well i mean they're used to it no that's not the right attitude and it's not funny enough to say but well i mean not that look all humans uh are shitty people you know it's not it's not like indians didn't do shitty things too to each other if if yeah if feeling insecure enough and scared enough i think humans become really shitty but i think when there's a crisis or a need for people to come together and help each other they do to be cooperative i think they do when it feels in when it's imminent well some do and some take advantage of the situation many take advantage some do but then sheriff taylor runs them out of town so it's okay is that where you're getting this that was right you know that was a great lesson teaching show you're joining me great lesson i was just going to say remember when you you'd watch a show and there was always you knew that the right thing would happen in in the end and i missed that there was a great classic episode of uh not what was it called mayberry uh oh well now i can't remember i mean the town was mayberry was it called mayberry rfd or welcome to mayberry or the andy griffith show the ending exactly you know why because we can't like right at the ending i watched it in reruns when i was a kid when i was homesick and i loved you too so there was an episode where um opie ron howard of course later to be the great director ron howard he kills a bird with a slingshot and uh and then he's andy's trying to teach him a lesson why he shouldn't have done that and he's the i'll be complaining about the bird chirping and he said yeah well i'm not going to shoo that bird away that's that bird calling for his mama and i'm going to let you hear how sad she is wow so i don't know why that uh you know why that one stuck in my memory that episode but it may have been why i joined peta in the 90s uh-huh and i've been a peta board member all these years you know yeah no but it's also it's right and it's kind of sophisticated because it's very easy to say all right you killed a bird you didn't have to do that but all right i mean because that's how a lot of people felt like well it's a bird it's not a conscious being like we are right did you know hbo max had podcasts i'm on mike podcast talking about the podcast on my network this must be what the metaverse feels like now go even deeper inside your favorite shows with audio companions to some of the most groundbreaking and award-winning shows on television the hbo max series hacks is back oh good with a new season and a new companion podcast in each episode hacks creators lucia aniello paul w downs and jen statsky will be joined by a special guest host like hannah einbinder darcy cardin susie essman and more unpack each episode of deborah and ava's hijinks listeners will hear stories from the show's writers room onset and the world of stand-up and entertainment that inspired the show you can listen to the official hacks podcast on hbo max and wherever you get your podcasts yeah we have to treat each other with respect if we're all working on something you have to show some appreciation for what other people are contributing you know i don't mean demonstrate it every day show appreciation and not saying what the [ __ ] you did it wrong you know you don't talk to someone like that is that what your experience has been on sets yeah yeah not to me personally but i've seen it yes but sets are tense places but they're they don't have to be no and well they're less tense oh it's now i feel like the ones i've been on have been it's a much less tense really but it's a high wire industry i mean we're paid more than most people a lot more mm-hmm okay um you're up on a higher wire like if you [ __ ] up it can be in front of millions instead of just three people right mm-hmm um yeah what's at stake if you're on a film set you know a film is very often you know 150 million dollar startup industry that's really it's a quick startup industry right that's investing 150 million dollars if you were making widgets it's like boy we better sell some of these widgets and it could fail yeah it could yeah so people are tense and i've never seen any sort of set where there wasn't some sort of blow up or people going nuts i mean we see some of them on film we've seen actors and directors and go nuts from a while ago i've had it happen to me personally yeah on a set like just screamed at by someone for no good reason right and then how did it go after that this that's a sitcom that was not the one i talked about before but the other one that it was quickly cancelled uh-huh but uh yeah you know no but it's just yeah it's rough it doesn't have but it doesn't it's not necessary it's not you know you handed me the wrong instrument to for this brain surgery that's not what it is it's not in the moment life or death we can it's digital it's not even film we can do the take again but show people we have editors i mean there's it's everyone has if and your best work comes when you're just a little more relaxed you know you have like a nervous energy but it doesn't have to be an angry energy you know what i mean it's just yeah i mean but again it's hard to get the very talented people without their [ __ ] quirks show people just their everything about them is exaggerated you know they're very often exaggeratedly good looking temperamental you know my friend always says insanity photographs oh you know they're crazy people but something about that is also charismatic and you can't take your eyes off it or honest because they can't help themselves sometimes yes trump's that way you know he's he can't help revealing himself yeah um yeah so you're not i don't know if you're ever going to have this utopia where you have the really talented people and there's not craziness going on it's a crazy business you know i okay i mean i know plenty of talented people that are not crazy i agree and and if you have the choice to work with them you should yeah but there might be there's less tolerance for the ones that act out and misbehave and make it a miserable experience yeah and to me that's a good thing yeah unless they make a fortune if the thing makes a fortune because of that person they're going to put up with an amazing amount of they are but you're saying i mean i don't know that i agree that a person's difficult you know um punishing side of them is what makes them talented i think maybe they think it is but i don't think it is i really don't i'm just saying i don't think they trust that they've just got it and you don't have to panic or worry over it i'm just saying i don't think they're separable you know like watching the johnny depp trial i mean some of the things he was doing passing out and throwing places plates and you know going places that's right yeah you know calling her a [ __ ] and this and that uh are not model behavior no but the jury forgave him because he's wildly charismatic i don't know if you can separate those two things he's a nut he always was a nut insanity photographs it's it works on camera and if you took away the insanity i think you know you'd have richard grieco i almost said wait who he was he was this richard grieco no i don't know now i got it no man danny bought he was a very uh very good-looking um actor on a you know like one of those shows like 21 jump street or you know he had a minute there where he was the it boy yeah i was watching tv at that time but it didn't quite yeah you know i would you know i'm sure there are people who bet money on richard rico and not johnny depp and after that trial i bet you're richard grieco's like boy i dodged a bullet there [Laughter] yeah all right i'll let you go back to your life in the wild and you need to find another clove cigarette oh my god i'm right here oh it's a pretty cake i know i find it so sophisticated to have a little it is it's really elegant yes very nice no no thank you well thank you this was more fun than i could tell you and i'm so flattered that you just did it yeah why wouldn't i because you need me like a whole year what that's how i feel about you you're you no you know a big difference don't make me go through other parts of the comeback that yeah but meanwhile by the way i brought that whole thing up but for a reason was because it made sense to me like for the first time when you and i was like so because the people that i had talked to thinking they they see women as victims and it never dawned on me just like it never dawned on you that you know but that was it never dawned on me and i went straight the character was so much more than just that i mean that was certainly thought so the macguffin that gets the character going i mean that that i mean but again i think that's all that's what was relatable we've all been the person who thinks they're going to be cast as the young hot one not literally but in life but really is going to be the shrumpy ant with the catchphrase i mean that alone you know should have won you all the awards because that that was just so perfect and every certainly everybody in showbiz that knows it but in life it happens too yes no we haven't done there are plenty of people in other industries i mean you think you're gonna and they don't they see you as this and the way she smiled through it all yeah you know the way about that she never like let it get them down i mean she never let that heavy set guy who i'm still afraid of paulie g oh i did not like him remember one time he was getting blown when you walked in oh it was just everything was just terrible about it he still scares me um he should have been on oz oh so funny so scary but like he never like he would never you would never get bitter you know you would never uh you would just sold your own kept going yes yeah i find that so much more inspiring than you know i think it has to do with how like how you see things because for some people it was like she just got humiliated at every turn and for other people it's like no she just kept going she just kept saying yeah i clock that i won't have it i'm going to create my own reality here we go and then they didn't they were nice enough to somebody was smart enough to do it again yeah that was fun a third time maybe yeah it's have been nine years so maybe i mean that character is i know i slip into her so easily i mean there are people who have done you know as through time they've done it the same character they just picked it up it's it's yeah you know yeah alan partridge yeah yeah thank you now the mics are over all right that was fun i feel like i got to know you me too i love it good the podcast

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Length: 78min 51sec (4731 seconds)

Published: Sun Jul 10 2022

Reddit Comments

[u/_oogleMe]

Bill was on an Irish pasties groove and commented that JFK didn't share in the paleness of his clan. This is because JFK had Addison's disease. One of the signs of this condition is hyper-pigmentation (bronzing).

[u/dbcooper4]

I saw Lisa Kudrow out at a restaurant in LA a few years back. One thing I learned about her recently is that her brother was really good friends with Jon Lovitz (of SNL fame) and he would be over at their house a lot in high school. She came to him for advice when she was just starting out in the Groundlings etc. He said she was very bright and really took his advice to heart.

https://youtu.be/MnI1FnhTnVI

[u/0ooO0o0o0oOo0oo00o]

Let’s talk about all the interesting topics of conversation Lisa Kudrow brought to the conversation!

[u/ThePalmIsle]

I seem to be in the minority here but I think this pod is a bad look for Bill

He’s not as cool and charming as he thinks and the avalanche of affection he starts every pod with makes his guests uneasy

And man, is he pleased with himself.

[u/Bruce_Hale]

"Nobody knows anything about medicine." - Bill Maher

[u/Cyberyukon]

Bill’s podcast is perfect, and especially during the long breaks in between “Real Time.”

[u/reddititaly]

Just click to a random point in the video. If Bill isn't talking I owe you a beer.

[u/emperorjarjar]

I found this interview pretty uncomfortable to watch. Kudrow is nice, but she struggles to hold a conversation. It was mostly a Bill monologue with her chiming in at times. She really could’ve loosened up a bit (drank and smoked).

[u/CyberSunburn]

Watching this from her perspective, I think it must have been excruciating for her.