Piers Morgan | Club Random w/ Bill Maher

i am so glad you're here i have been wanting to uh [ __ ] shake your hand since you stormed off your show yeah i feel like there is not enough storming i completely agree i think there should be an award show called the stormies just for people who have the balls to storm off yeah so what is that show that was like their today show yeah this is the morning show good morning britain i love her brit oh never bring london to londonderry everywhere scotland yeah scotland wales ireland everywhere and it was um yeah i mean the blow up came because i was hired specifically to give forthright opinions that's why i got the job and when i gave a very forthright opinion i didn't believe a word meghan markle was saying in her oprah winathon uh all hell broke loose and the white brigade tried to cancel me i thought well they're not going to cancel me because well my opinions are my opinions but of course it turned out the whole thing you actually are not allowed opinion yeah it's so interesting england you know it just becomes more and more americanized completely like the hypersensitivity thing which you know i used to think of the british's stiff upper lip but i remember going to england the first time i think it was 1984 the des o'connor show yeah you must have grown up on that this is great but it was like the tv was like two channels yeah like a documentary on [ __ ] lawns and was there prime time right yes i mean i grew up when i grew up that's where you there were three channels when i grew up now there's obviously hundreds and hundreds well we only had a few channels when i was a good either but at least they put entertainment on it at least it was michael's navy it wasn't like a show about granite or some [ __ ] right oh yeah and then when i as over the years i would go back to london and turn on the tv and then it'd be like oh there's the american version of this stupid [ __ ] thing we do whatever it was you know a game show or you know it just got more gossipy and i thought this was the crown to that the the meghan markle thing because there was just so much [ __ ] about it right well i can't even remember now what it was why was sharon osborne come on your show after you oh yes because she then got fired for standing up for me oh right because she was accused of supporting a racist and as she rightly said okay what did he actually say that was racist of course the truth was i hadn't seen anything remotely racist what i had done was say i didn't believe right who by the way was lying through her back teeth and that's right that's what i mean about like the way england has become americanized you can't because she's half black she couldn't possibly lie right that's not racist and also there's a point there there were lots of people on the show that day who vehemently believed every word she said i said well why are they allowed to believe her why can they exercise their right to a belief when i can't exercise a right to disbelieve that exactly i don't care if you disagree with me or if you like or if you like it or if you agree or if you agree with that but i'm surely entitled in what used to be a democracy to say i don't believe you of course espe and let me preface by saying um the sad thing is the way our country is now that we will just by having this conversation we will be perceived and they will try to characterize this right wingers right i'm not a right winger just no just because i don't bend the knee to the one true opinion i call it the otl yeah that's the one especially since when it i can see with my eyes this is full of [ __ ] you know what i could see with my eyes oprah it's all coming back to me this wasn't that long ago i probably smoked too much pot but uh oh she okay megan and harry they go on oprah which itself you know why do you need to do that okay so the royal family is accused of racism i'm sure the old bag has got to be a hundred i mean she grew up not called her majesty the old back really i've i've got to have some limits with my company you know sharon is nobody trashing our television that's fair enough because you're right about a lot of that well this is this is definitely not television the queen has been on that throne 70 years okay but actually i would say of all leaders of any kind of the world probably despite everything remains the most respected leader of all in the world okay [ __ ] me for like okay they're so interesting you can't call out offensive names in my presence without me calling you out of it i'm fine but what's so interesting to me is that sharon osbourne said the same thing yeah like you british people it's like it's like once a catholic you know you like which i once was you walk into a church and you still get a little not that i want to rejoin or anything but there's a little spokes because you're just in this place that was drilled into your head as a child and it'll nev you can't make it go it's just a good time to say i'm a catholic are you i am okay but this is the same kind of thing the queen even though your rational mind must know this is just an incredible bunch of [ __ ] just the idea of royalty is offensive to me i did a whole thing once of course the premise that some human being calls another human being your highness i find to be incredibly illiberal but you call the leader of your country every four years mr president right i mean that's his job that's like your highness you don't see a difference between your highness and mr president you know i think you're missing the point of what the quit the queen's job has purely been to be a figurehead of stability and as a calming influence through difficult times she's actually been very effective okay but i'm just saying that name your highness should be offensive to you i actually don't call her i call her your majesty you talk to her i've talked to her many times yeah you talked to that exalted wonderful woman she's actually very she she calls you like trump calls hannity yeah i don't quite like that but yes she's very funny well she's very funny there was one moment i remember when we were at windsor castle and she had a media party name-dropping name-dropping castles i love it we were in this magnificent castle we were looking out over the lawns and i don't know if you're aware they have these garden parties where 12 000 people completely random people turn up and the queen just walks among them and they held a few times yeah yeah and they're called the royal garden party i feel so sure i said so i said your majesty i said can i ask you something if you look out of your lovely beautifully manicured lawns i think do you actually enjoy the garden parties that you have here so she looked at me she said well mr morgan let me put it to you like this how would you like 12 000 complete strangers trampling on your garden so she has a sense of humor completely and she's very she's whip smart when i look at america particularly now with the fractured nature of america the sort of slightly chaotic out of control nature of america and the rampant division which is arguably worse than it's probably ever been we have the same thing politically we had brexit you had trump these are extremely toxic tribal political environments if you like where it wasn't enough to take a side you had to impractically take a side and i wrote a book about this last year called wake up and it was really going back to the genesis of liberalism what it was actually founded on what it was supposed to be about because i identify more as liberal than not and how it's being completely bastarized over time particularly in the last 10 years not only is it preposterous for liberals to want to cancel everything because it's the antithesis of what liberalism should be about right not only is it completely uh difficult to democracy i mean democracy is supposed to be the ability to sit down with people whose opinions you don't share and to have a vigorous debate at the end of it go and have a drink and make friends which i know you do and i'd say yes that's gone as well now so these modern days in britain too in britain too so the the modern day woke liberal they don't want debate they just want you to have their narrow prism of life and if you don't sign up to it you're not just wrong and they don't understand you're wrong you have to be destroyed everything that you stand for you have to have your job removed you have to have your life destroyed and that is not liberalism that's fascism it's a new form of family so would you would you have gotten canned if you hadn't walked off well i was put in a position where they said to me my employers look if you apologize you can keep your job i said what am i apologizing for they went for you know disbelieving meghan markle i said i don't believe her no i know but can you just apologize to appease people well why would i do that yeah good for you who am i appeasing why oh and okay so let's go just to be clear none of the viewers none of the viewers of the show had any problem with what i said here's what i thought was where my antenna went up i i understand exactly who she is if i was just looking at her i would never guess she was anything but a straight-up white girl that's just i mean just looks uh she said they showed a clip of her in africa dancing with african girls and she's like you know we've done so much because when i go here the girls look at me and say someone who looks like me could marry the you know be where i am well first of all they don't look like you uh an interesting question would be would harry have married someone who looked like those african girls they were dancing with i mean that's an interesting question maybe he would have maybe maybe they're that maybe they're not racist at all either but if you're accusing the royal family of being racist ask that question of yourself and then also you know just like i don't think those girls had a chance to marry the prince of england or whatever she was saying like they see me and they realize i could be where she is there was not a trace of racism in the british media towards meghan markle really it's no oh come on no no there wasn't and in fact quite the reverse in fact i remember when they got married the outfit do you have a drink i've got a soda you don't want a drink well i mean you can i'm just where's my [ __ ] liquor um it's your bar i know i don't want to be in pertinent nice uh just like yeah we're good perfect yeah i'm telling you you know the british can drink like i mean i remember when i first went to england every time i went one of the great things about england is pubs because unlike here in america where we segregate the uh generations you would never see someone my age in a club or even in the same bar but in england it's a neighborhood thing i grew up in a pub my parents ran a pub is that right i grew up in one in this on the south coast of england wow five miles inland my parents ran a pub the griffin inn a little village called fletching and actually i think the whole my whole love of journalism and debating and all that kind of stuff came from just observing people in the pub because in a pub it's like in certainly in britain a pub is the pillar of democracy it's people from all walks of life you'd have millionaires next to you know sheep herdsmen right and they would be debating the issues of today it didn't matter what class they came from it didn't matter how much money they had as long as you could stand your round for a pint you would vigorously animatedly debate stuff right and then you'd clink glasses you'd have another pint i would see people in pubs like passed out sitting on the barstool you don't see that in america you just do not and they were just and it was not a thing it was not a thing that bothered the other patrons the bartender he would literally be rocking carcass was perfectly normal on a friday night just right out of it on the stool like a nodding heroin at it oh yeah i'm like and the british actors the amount of liquor all those you know michael kane uh richard burton peter o'toole peter o'toole like they'd bring a bottle before lunch and then have like wine at lunch and then and still do their lines you know churchill used to you know churchill famously through the war he would get up he'd have champagne paul rogers champagne for breakfast he'd have a long lunch with lots of wine he'd then have a 15-minute crucially power nap he'd then carry on drinking and running the war and then at night he'd write voraciously he'd write these enormous speeches which galvanized the nation but he would basically drink all day churchill and yet he's well he's the greatest briton in all the polls we've ever had i mean you know i'm not saying kids do drugs or anything but the amount of creative output that was you know lubricated and birthed really midwived by whatever liquor lsd marijuana you know i mean it's the beetle sergeant pepper what would that have been like not just not just that one no but i'm just saying as an example of an album written on psychedelic drugs if you took the drugs away what would they have done the beetles in that building club random is supported by signalwire if you've been on a video conference recently you know how it goes laggy choppy video and audio it sucks but still not as bad as having to put on pants for an in-person meeting but this experience doesn't have to be so bad this experience can be amazing that's where signalwire kicks ass and takes names signalwire's tech arsenal allows developers to create better real-time video apps and fast from the little things like actually being able to hear subtle audio cues to the big things like being able to support broadcast quality audio and video for thousands of participants signalwire empowers developers to create more natural real-time interactive experiences better remote work remote learning telehealth interactive 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legend my age group yeah but he should he's the kind of icon you you'd hope that they would know but man they don't kids don't know anything like that or anything i've got four kids three in their twenties one ten-year-old kids yeah four three boys in their twenties same mom uh no two moms the boys are the same mum and then i remarried and had a daughter's ten but what's interesting is their knowledge of the kind of cultural stuff that meant so much to me is very limited you know if i try and get them animated about paul mccartney or the rolling stones or any of this kind of thing their eyes just glaze over well i mean i feel like the beatles must have some resonance just because their level of success their pervasiveness and if you try and talk to people in their twenties about the beatles it's not the same and it's of course it's not the same because they didn't live through it but they don't get they don't get the scale of it they don't understand the right of it no they all the musicianship you know i watched the the peter jackson get back for me too it's unbelievable the musicianship when you watch mccartney sit there and just start composing a long unwinding road and you think well who's doing that now i mean people are obviously there are brilliant musicians but the brilliance of the musicianship and also i thought was interesting the dynamic between mccartney and lennon which i'd always been led to believe when i grew up mccartney was the kind of sweet guy lennon was the tough one he was the one calling all the shots running the show you watch get back and actually it's the complete reverse which may be down to lennon's instead of mind at the time and other stuff of course whether that was early on but we knew that i didn't know that of course can you watch what's happening well then you're not as much of a beautiful we knew he was definitely running the show from well well before that i mean sergeant pepper was his idea everything they were doing john was more uh lazy at that point and also more in on drugs and then he meant yoko he was other directed he once said you know paul calls me up and he says you know i've written 10 new songs and now god damn it now i've got to go write 10 new songs um i had an interesting conversation with sean sean lennon because i just know him a bit and we were messaging each other about it so what did you think of it you went well everyone else is watching it and obviously enjoying it but i'm watching my dad in a way that i've never seen footage wow of my father which i thought was really interesting that he had never seen so much footage of his father the ultimate takeaway from that peter jackson thing and of course if you're not of that era and you don't love that group don't bother it'll be like watching paint dry because you know it's so verite i mean it's eight hours or something and but couldn't you watch more of it i totally i could have watched double well just the idea that you know it's the way he set it up with drama like they have a month which is the truth they have a month from scratch to get together at the beginning of the year and by the end of the month to have a whole new album of 14 songs and perform them and at first they're it's so disaltering you think how is this ever going to happen in a month and they keep exiting the things off on the calendar and it's like of course they [ __ ] pull it off like brilliantly but what to me the ultimate takeaway and i am backed up on this by martin lewis you know him probably the ultimate beatles expert uh he asked me what i thought of it i said this he said you're spot on it was always lennon and mccartney it's not anything else i'm sorry the other two beetles they're beatles and we love them but you could see the love affair was between lennon and mccartney all the interplay he totally ignores yoko this idea of yoko broke up the beatles it's like she's not even there i bet he was always relating to paul mccartney and that was the original do you think the simmering tension with george harrison's interesting yes harrison actually did do probably arguably the best solo stuff afterwards so he was clearly breaking out wasn't he he did he did great stuff for for yes i think through the 70s and then he had a good album in the 80s you can feel that i'm the big george harrison and see ringo gets ringo doesn't get enough credit for that game because you barely notice him but it all is chaotic around them well you get these guys who just did the rhythm of the heartbeat of the band you know also yeah i love ringo i mean uh it's also the case that it's good to have a guy in the band who no one's fighting i would join you but it's illegal for me to do that here you know that you have to be an american citizen to do what you're doing in california you can't be a non-citizen so who would do what to you so it's interesting the the legalization of cannabis and how many states is in america now if you're an american citizen it's fine it's legal but if you're not a citizen you're governed by federal law which remains that uh marijuana is illegal so who would arrest you i don't know americans or english uh it would it would probably be a big issue with like immigration and everything else because you still live in england i live there a lot of the time i've got a house in beverly hills so i've come here a lot yeah yeah but you're still a british citizen yes yeah and you have a whole place in london yeah oh and that's where your family's based yeah well i've got family all over england but yeah there's a lot of family i think you're going to say you're like a trucker i got i got two families i got one here well my late great grandmother was the matriarch of the family when she was 90 we got together everybody just on her side of the family into one marquee 104 people this is a big family i'm from and there's a lot of us but you weren't poor growing up were you no but i wasn't didn't have any money my parents my parents ran a country pub they worked they worked seven days a week without much help they had four kids to bring up we all went to the local the local state schools and we had certainly had no privilege we had no wealth or privilege we never felt like we missed out on anything and of course life was very different there wasn't it i looked at it that sounds like my upbringing yeah i mean the house i grew up in my father paid i believe 24 000 for it you couldn't get a [ __ ] car yeah at four percent or something whatever the gi bill was but we lived out in jersey that's what people did but it was leave it to beaver time yeah you know there was no issues in that town no drugs no no racial issues because it was completely white the difference when i go to the pubs in my county where i came from when i was younger my parents had one then i grew up and went to publish myself you never saw drugs in the pubs kids would drink beer and whatever and fall over and like you said be dragged out but the amount of drug taking now in the pubs and clubs in england is i would say 100 100 times anything ecstasy cocaine marijuana you know not i don't think it's necessary you're not against drugs right no no i'm just i'm i'm like you i'm a i'm a pretty liberal guy whatever gets you through the night kind of view of all this stuff what i've been struck by is just the amount compared to what was around when i was young but you're just a drinker yeah i like i just prefer having a drink yeah right yeah i mean marijuana is not meant for everyone yeah it's it's only really agrees with about a third of the people is i believe i'm not completely pulling this out of my ass but i'm partly just this is from my experience and i've got a lot with it uh but like some people get uh logy and sleepy some people get paranoid yeah and some people get creative and it makes them high literally high that's the good but that's not everybody and if it's not you if this it's not your thing you shouldn't do it but i always think i mean the idea that people can drink tequila until they literally tequila over yeah and yet they take some sort of high moral position about cannabis to me has always struck me well of course ludicrous it's like do you not understand the inconsistency in in this country i don't know if england is the same really all the drug prohibitions were racially motivated it was a way it was a it was a sly way they used to target i mean like oh when it was the chinese it was opium marijuana crack cocaine versus powder right okay it has always been a uh you know subterfuge weapon of racist policies that i mean i don't know about england is the three strikes thing still active here oh that's a good question i think somebody asked me about it i think they're trying to i mean yeah it's such an insane law yes it's well it's so typical of the american predilection for zero tolerance meaning zero thinking yes let's just like do something where we don't have to [ __ ] think about it you know when we could just that's three come on uh hit you're three and you're out but yes there are people who've been the third can be like a tiny fragment of whatever right it's like anything right you people have gone run away because they stole a slice of pizza or something i mean there are there are stories like that so you know but i mean don't get me started on all the [ __ ] things about this country we are supported by masterworks i'm fighting an ape and he's got a baseball cap and a gold tooth that's the dream i keep having because people won't shut up about nfts and i'm over it it takes up all the headlines it could be telling me about actual real things to invest in although through all the noise i saw something that blew my mind it was a startup that had just gotten valued at a billion dollars that enables people to invest in real art not some [ __ ] energy sucking digital piece of garbage actual paintings from masters like picasso basquiat and banksy it's 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through right morgan and i'm actually irish really yeah my father my father was irish he died when i was very young um i was one because that's my heritage right so i'm actually from galway originally yeah that's my heritage um 1922 is when ireland got its independence i don't think people understand how much ireland is a conquered country by the british they did not speak the same language right they were club they're geographically close they look the same but the irish was a completely different culture with a different language and they were subjugated brutally i mean there was a lot of and the northern part is a british colony that's part of the uk that's one of the four parts of the uk it's england scotland wales and northern ireland correct and of course they you know there's a lot of british people there who want to stay it's been a long time since centuries since they've been part of britain but it's kind of like hong kong and china shouldn't it be reunited that's what the chinese would say come on look at look at the map it looks like it should be part of us and ireland wants it and i don't blame them and it really is and at some point it will be it might be uh it might be and scotland may go independent of course that also might have scotland has voted on its independence and said no we do not trust ourselves but then as time has gone on more and more there's been more popularity now coming back for independence who knows the scots there are people who are outsize of their of their numbers to their influence they have great influence i think many of the great thinkers philosophers writers yes like like a higher percentage of many in the canon are scottish and also very uh influential here in the american south yeah scott irish uh i don't want to say that that's a big part of the problem down there but it's a big part of the problem down there there's this war-like clannish that they brought over from [ __ ] the old really but the american south i'm telling you has a war-like and mean quality to it uh that that is where they get it from and if you don't believe me in gone with the wind her name is scarlett o'hara her father famously in the scenes he's in i can't remember the actor but he speaks with a thick irish brogue land land catchy scarlet land it's the only thing worth fighting for worth dying for and then charlotte vows that she will never be hungry again by the way that movie i gotta say entertaining as [ __ ] and uh the people who need a disclaimer this is the problem you [ __ ] babies can't you just see by the film stock that things were very different humans are like it's history in general we evolve just celebrate we're not racist just be a grown-up you have a warning it's about a comedy film where it's not a comedy no i'm not talking about the wind i'm talking about just generally you know warnings on comedy films where a joke is said which is clearly a joke not intended to be remotely offensive to anybody right and even that now needs a warning at the front in case anybody's offended what do you think's going to happen when you watch it what happens to people i mean the fact that they're shaking i mean the fact that this generation needs a trigger warning and a klonopin get through an episode of phil it's pathetic it's pathetic we've become a world and i've talked about this a lot a world where it is now a premium to be a victim it is celebrated to be weak you see that great sporting athletes are now making more money and becoming more acclaimed if they quit than if they win we're becoming essentially you're talking about the one who got the twisties that's not right well um actually is that what you're talking about well i can't remember her name but i'm actually not talking about her i was actually talking about she did not quit well they drove this they olympics that sickness of taking someone as a child and training them like i mean you're just with no humanity really it's just you are this this vessel for america winning a medal and they drove that poor girl to simone bile okay so she they i have no doubt that she maxed out to what she was possibly as a human capable of taking she didn't give up that i wasn't actually why she quit she came out with a lot of reasons why it was all you know her mental health and this and the other she then managed to make a miraculous recovery to do the olympic flame at the olympics about two months later and i watched all this guys just carrying the flame yeah but well that doesn't take guts but my point is she said if she if she quit because she couldn't play a match that's more than just carrying out but i don't really agree with you about it and i'm not sure i completely agree about simone bars because she managed to recover five days later and take part in a individual competition having let her teammates compete without her and lose to the russians so i don't entirely agree but my general point about it is this i think that in both cases and many others at the moment there is a weird cultural phenomenon going on where it's almost frowned upon to want to be a winner where if you ex if you express yourself you're an oppressor yes in some way if you're if you if you want to dominate your sport and be a champion and a winner and do what it takes to win well let me finish we still love winners come on we just had the super bowl we do we like the winners they go to disneyland the other losers get to weep that's true okay but let me but if you now quit if you now give up and you just embrace this new phenomenon of well i've got mental health issues whatever the real reason may be and i'm not doubting sometimes the veracity of that but you get celebrated more than if you win and i i have a problem with that well i i think he all plays to this and then everybody wants to be a victim after right now everybody says i have a little sniffle and they go on social media i want you to feel sorry for me and i want to be celebrated for my little sniffle which means i can't now do my job and if by the way if you make me do my job you're an oppressor who is forcing me to something against my will and so this thing starts to spew out right eventually weakness becomes celebrated more than strength right which is not to say that there aren't real oppressors in this real people are suffering from symptoms right right but you are correct it is a victim culture it it it is exalted there's something pathetic about it it's very pathetic well it's the end of the empire i'm told that i can't for example you talked about a stiff upper lip earlier but the british yeah i've always prided myself on having a stiff upper lip i think it's a thing to actually to want to aspire to have what about your penis how much pride optimize stiff lower lip a bit later come to our part of that part of the podcast some people find it awkward but i feel is generic to what we're talking about i'm extremely relaxed if you want to talk about my lower genitalia but i'd rather get back if you don't mind in the short term yeah to no i agree with you no i just think that we are we are entering a perilous period of society weakness is celebrated and the stiff upper lip which used to be something the brits were admired for around the world synonymous with right and right and we we were we were like that's a good thing you know in in times of trouble the british ability to rise above this not get over emotional not get too down about this dust yourself down i mean that's gone now now the stiff upper lip is now right to be condemned i am to be condemned for saluting a stiff upper lip how dare i be resilient see this is not to be arnold toynbee on you but this is what happens to successful civilizations you become so successful you become weak you become it's happened to rome it happened it happens to everybody you become uh a feat you become you become fat soft complacent soft you know what you are you're uh martin sheen in apocalypse now when he captain willard in the hotel room and he's like i've been in this hotel room charlie's in the jungle he's getting stronger every day and i'm [ __ ] karate dropping this mirror and cutting my hand that's us we're in the hotel room hitting the mirror and charlie but you know you don't want to be charlie in the jungle you want you can't blame us for wanting our cushy life but it just can't seem to stop us from getting so cushy in the morning we used to admire mental strength and resilience and now we seem to be moving to a place where to even say that you should want to have that is wrong i mean that is somehow insulting to those who might be mentally weak or who might be you know more inclined to be a bit over sensitive or whatever and unless you're emoting 24 7 on social media you know i have a problem for example with the kind of the global social media days where you're told you have to do a certain thing on twitter or instagram and if you don't virtue signal in that way then somehow you're you're identifying yourself you're a racist you're this you're that if you don't go along with the herd that's decided that's what you have to do to prove that you're not a racist one true opinion and i'm like this is absolute nonsense why should i do that that's not how i prove and they all move on a day later straight back to the way they were before this is like a momentary right i'm not a racist look at me i've done my black square it's kind of it's kind of it's kind of like when an actress everyone when she does like a part where they have to ugly her up yeah and then it was like she was so brave i'm like it would be brave if she stayed ugly yeah but you know she going to be nicole kidman again on monday they're going to take the big ugly nose oh you know the fat suit will go out in the dress yes you know not that acting should be something that's really brave and when marines are brave you know but it's kind of like that you know it's just uh you're you're going to go back to being exactly just i just find myself constantly feeling what is going on with the world like i just saw uh in the uk today there was a thing about the fire service or something they're being ordered now to use him her them their pronouns whatever i said okay well fine let's take this to his logical extension because pronouns are whatever you want to be right so if i decide i want to identify myself as a [ __ ] which many people watching this might think is entirely you know why they're going to think you're a [ __ ] because of the way you said those pronouns you dismissed it like and look i i it's not my generation's thinking there but i get it that people you know sometimes you feel like a nut sometimes you don't and people you know they just whatever it is they want to be that and it's no skin off my nose so don't say it like they them that because then you're just let me explain why i feel that way so i had a debate on the morning show before i i left and it was about the bbc which is the british broadcasting corporation paid for by uh taxpayers you pay a license fee to watch the bbc 150 200 a year for every every uk citizen pays 200 dollars they're taking that lolly out of here and they pay check yeah no you have to pay it as a license for how many quid right it's 150 bucks what do you what do you think of my pub so you're a pretty great person this is a great pub it's a pub right so but imagine here if you paid 155 pounds a year 200 dollars to watch the british broadcasting company and they were sending out educational videos in which they said there were a hundred plus genders one of the genders this had existed was astra gender astro gender is an affinity with the stars and the moon i'm very happy if you identify as astra gender if you build walk out today and have an affinity with the stars and the moon good luck to you my friend however when i said okay so what you're saying a couple of people there let me just get this straight because i'm a logical thinking person i think does that mean then that i can basically identify as anything i want and he said absolutely i said and it should be respected yes i said it great in that case i'd like to identify right now as a two-spirit penguin and there was a long silence and then the inevitable response was that's completely offensive how dare you i said you're sitting here trying there's a hundred genders i can go out and say i am i have an affinity as a gender to the stars and the celestial galaxy but the moment i say i'm a penguin that apparently is the that's the bar you can't right i mean i had a similar thing it's all [ __ ] well here's the thing in america weight watchers changed its name to avoid saying the word weight which is [ __ ] well i mean like kfc i remember did it years ago kentucky fried chicken because they didn't remind people that our chicken is really probably nuclear waste or something i'm sure it's not i don't mean to offend the kentucky fried chicken people i'm sure it's wonderful pure wonderful food i was just kidding you try to head off the lawsuits where you can but on weight for example right i'm quite happy to look at myself in the mirror and go you should lose a bit of timber as we say in the uk right there's a bit of timber uh i've had long covered for eight months i've been a workout like i'd like to really oh yeah yeah bad yeah whoa burying the lead here you had long cover for eight months so i got the delta variant last july and for eight months i've got zero smell still i have probably 20 percent taste and i have constant fatigue which most people have had long cove it will identify with it's not like being tired you're just flat lined any over exertion you can get a flashlight today right yeah i'm fine now and yet by potentially over exerting in this interview tomorrow i might be completely whacked give us a [ __ ] about tomorrow exactly and it's a weird it's a very strange thing to have experience just give me another 10 minutes and then you can [ __ ] die but it's a weird thing i know lots of people who've been through the same thing not from omicron which is a very different variant and much easier and changes all the game were you vaccinated before you got it yeah i was double vaccinated yeah and i got my delta variant and you still got this sick yes and it's not it's a weird thing because you you i you know you appear perfectly normal but actually uh anyone who's had it knows what i'm talking about the the assault on your senses and the assault on your body is really not to be understood western medicine loves to like divide everything up into a million different categories and then give everything a name so long covert okay i'm sure that's a thing you know like to name new diseases but really it's the same old thing which is viruses are opportunistic if your metabolic state is sound yeah terrain versus germ theory this is a fundamental argument in science but even louis pasteur the father of german theory on his deathbed said you know of course we're not denying that there are germs he's saying it is the terrain that the germ is in the analogy being swamps and mosquitoes right mosquitoes can't breed unless it's in a swamp right if you're a swamp anything can take you down and will america the main reason america had such a bad time with this is because we were not in good health to begin with but if you say that people like attack you they attack them well so you only you've only got 50 odd percent uh vaccination that you get no higher than 50 here what is it now oh way higher than america yes but you know what we were told that i think whatever it is i think it's very close to where they said if we had that we'd better we'd be at herd immunity and when you combine it with the number of people who have actually had it yeah i mean i think we must have passed heard immunity by now so there's a saying that certainly would be apropos of someone with the old stiff upper lip in his background which is a fate worse than death that was a concept forever i mean it's a meme or it would have been if they had memes back in the day but a fate worse than that the just the idea that you know as bad as death is yeah and we're not for it yeah there are some things that are even worse that's completely gone that to me is what this first of all it's so scary that they could foment this amount of hysteria not that covert wasn't real and couldn't take down anybody we don't know everything about it but you know i did a thing recently i just said why didn't we focus on what we know it 75 are people over 65. it kills older people well that's sad but older people they're going to die at some point i don't want them to i don't want anybody to die ever but earth is a timeshare you know we can't all be here at some at the same time some so i don't want anyone to die ever but you know the flu kills people i think uh and then people who aren't vaccinated like 99 all you got to do is get vaccinated and you're not going to die it's not that hard and then of course obese is 78 of the deaths and hospitalizations we know where the areas we should address helping those people yeah but that's not how we do it because we are stuck in tribal mindset and it's the same in my country as it is here and the tribal mindset means you cannot change your position dependent on facts and this is the key problem with what is going wrong with democracies in the uk the us many other places too is that if you start to abandon the ability to change your opinion on things as facts change what are you left with you're left with going back 2 000 years to when we had genuine tribes you lived in a tribe right and you never came out of your tribe so everybody in your tribe looked the same dressed the same right spoke the same had the same attitudes because they they shared it amongst themselves and then slowly but surely the tribes began to move out of their own environment and they encountered other tribes and the other tribes dressed differently thought differently had different attitudes right and both tribes when confronted with this extraordinary moment decided the only solution was to kill each other and we have come now we're 2 000 years old well actually we're 2 000 years back oh yeah where whether it's trump or brexit or coronavirus or vaccine whatever it is you you feel obliged now many people feel obliged to get into their tribe and then they cannot leave it regardless of fact there's a there's a writer for the times which has done so many ridiculous things about cobot but this david leonhardt he's so smart and he i think is much more on our page and he wrote a great line recently that he studies it and he said something like um being for maximum safety has become a core part of what progressives feel is their identity yes it's like i'm a better person than you this is my point about superiority about what i was saying about you know death there are things worse than death if you believe no there is nothing worse and of course we could stop more deaths if we didn't drive if we just stayed home if we just stared at our neighbors you and i never left this bar and nevertheless and all we did was do this we'd have about a week you're in the pub but that it's like i'm a better person than you because i am for the maximum safety yes and that's a it's a reasonable debate but that's i would take this side i'm not a worse person i just think life is for the living uh i you know to your point about people or you know just [ __ ] these days like yes there are risks all around when i see kids like when i'm kids 20 somethings walking alone outside with a mask i want to punch them i'm like you [ __ ] first [ __ ] you're not going to get it outside walking alone outside or people [ __ ] play the odds you got the good immune system by the way i say this whole thing of following the science i'm like go back and watch what all the top scientists in the world were saying in march 2020. fauci was on television saying masks are no good against covid but can i just give what i think is the reasonable view on masks uh some are better than others one that's for one yeah they do stop some and in some instances like very vulnerable people indoors during a surge makes sense but the general idea that is in people's minds that they put there and this is what they bother me so much about that weak the way to fight something like a virus is only externally as opposed to your immune system you cannot avoid and you should not even want to avoid all the germs and the virus how many viruses there are in the atmosphere it's like 10 to the 31 they're everywhere it's part of our ecosystem it actually makes you more unhealthy to avoid them completely it's we're humans also look at what's happened with flu globally but so flu was a massive killer globally every year and since kobe came along very few people have been dying of flu and that may well change because of the immunity issues that you've talked about as we go forward and it might be a big problem in years to come however you get to a position of not catching flu when you stop touching each other and you stop socializing with each other and you wear masks and you have lockdowns but who wants to live in that life not me right i don't want to you don't want to no there was doing this with [ __ ] masks but but i think but i've evolved in other words at the start of all this when no one knew what the hell we were being hit with in places like italy where the second best health care system in the world were being run over i was like okay well locked down until we work out what the hell is going on before vaccines that seem to be a sensible position now that's not a sensible position right now you have to as they say live with the virus right we have to get it in that drink okay we're done and when we're not filled when we're not filming the drinks are not free 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Published: Mon Apr 18 2022