Joe Rogan & Elon Musk - Are We in a Simulated Reality?

right but is I mean ultimately is it making people happier right now most technology I would say no in fact you and I were talking about social media before this about just not having Instagram when you're following and not dealing you feel better yes I think but one of the issues with social media that's been pointed out by many people is that I think maybe particularly Instagram people look like they have a much better life than they really do right so by design yeah people are posting pictures of when they are really happy they're modifying those pictures to be better looking even if they're not modifying the pictures there at least selecting the pictures for the best lighting the best angle so people basically seem they're way better looking then they basically really are right and they're way happier seeming than they really are so if you look at everyone find Instagram you might think man they're all these happy beautiful people and I'm not that good-looking and I am not happy so I must suck you know and that's gonna make you feel sad so when in fact those people you think are super happy actually not that happy some of them were really depressed they're very sad so I'm the happiest seeing people actually some of the saddest people in reality and and and nobody looks good all the time doesn't matter who you are no it's not even something you should want why do you look great all the time yeah exactly so so I think I think things like that can make people quite sad just by comparison because you just sort of you you people people generally think of themselves relative to to others it's it's a we're constantly re we based lining our expectations and you can see they say if you watch some show like naked and afraid' or if you're just go and try living in the woods by yourself for a while and you like Valona civilization is quite great aslha it's a lot of its people want to come back to civilization pretty fast on wood and afraid wasn't that a thorough quote the comparison is the thief of joy yeah of happiness is reality - expectations that's great - but the comparison is the thief of joy really holds true to peep is it Theodore Roosevelt Roosevelt fascinating in when you think about Instagram because what essentially Instagram is with a lot of people is you're giving them the opportunity to be their own PR agent and they always go towards the glamorous you know and when anybody does show you know hashtag no filter they really do do that like oh you're so brave look at you no makeup no yeah they look good anyway you look great what are you doing oh my god you don't makeup I still look hot as [ __ ] you know what you're doing I know what you're doing too they're they're they're letting you know and then they're feeding off that comment section oh look it's sitting there like like it's a fresh stream of love like you're getting right up to the source as it comes out of the earth and you're sucking that's a lot of emojis water Bodi emojis yeah lot of orgies my concern is not so much what Instagram is is that I didn't think that people had the need for this or the expectation for some sort of technology that allows them to constantly get love and adulation from strangers and comments and and this ability to project this sort of distorted version of who you really are but I worry about where it goes like what's the next one what's the next one like where is it is it going to be augmented is some sort of a weird augmented or virtual sort of Instagram type situation where you're not going to want to live in this real world you're going to want to interface with this sort of world you've created through your social media page some next-level thing yeah go live in the simulation yeah maybe in the stimulus I'm ready player one type [ __ ] that's real that seems we have that HTC vive here and I've only done it a couple times quite honestly because it kind of freaks me out or my kids [ __ ] love it man they love it they love playing these weirdo games and and and walking around with that headset on but part of me watching them do it goes wow I wonder if this is like the precursor just sort of like if you look at that phone that Gordon Gekko had on the beach yeah any computing cell phone yeah if you pair that to like a Galaxy Note 9 how the [ __ ] did that become that right and I wonder when I see this HTC vive I'm like what is that thing going to be 10 years from now when we're making fun of what it is now what is it how I mean how ingrained and how how how connected and interconnected is this technology going to be in our life it will be at some point indistinguishable from reality where we'll lose this we'll lose this like you and I just live in each other through our eyes I see where you see me I think I hope you think so I think you probably overwrought it regular eyes this could be some simulation it could do you entertain that well the argument for the simulation I think is quite strong because if you assume any improvements at all over time any improvement 1% 0.1% just extend the time frame make it a thousand years a million years the universe is 13.8 billion years old or what a civilization if you count it if you're very generous civilization is maybe seven or eight thousand years old if you count it from the first writing this is nothing this is nothing so if you assume any rate of improvement at all then games will be indistinguishable from reality or civilization will end one of those two things will occur both or we are most likely in a simulation or we're on suite system right well we could most certainly be on the road we could be on the road to that right it doesn't mean that it has to be a reality it could be in base reality we could be here now on our way to the or on our way to the destination where this can never happen again where we are completely ingrained in some sort of an artificial technology or some sort of a symbiotic relationship with the internet or the next level of sharing information but right now we're not there yet that's possible - right it's possible that a simulation is one day going to be inevitable that we're gonna have something that's indistinguishable from regular reality but maybe we're not there yet that's also possible when yes quite there yet that this is real when I touch that feels very real maybe that's why everybody's like into like mason jars and [ __ ] Mason's suede shoes people are into like Kraft restaurants and they wouldn't want raw wood everyone says everyone ought to see metal people it seems like people are like longing towards some weird log cabin tightness around reality yeah I like holding on like clinging just sir dragging their nails through the mud like don't take me it yes I want to what but then but then people go get a mason jar with the wine stem or a handle that's dark mist we lose faith in humanity wine stem and a handle they have those yes oh those dirty people oh that's just [ __ ] that's like people make pet rocks rough right there's some people are just [ __ ] they take advantage of our generous nature which was made with the wine stem I made with Andale they made it that way yeah so the one way you felt early on to the Mesa job you thought that was he fine if there was they glued it on or something but right so Ahlers made that way white trash chic oh this is disgusting yep this is terrible yeah that's like fake breasts that are designed to be hard like fake breasts from the 60s it's like if you're really long for the ones with ripples here we go yeah that's almost what that is yeah what are you gonna do man it's not nothing me no something you do stop certain terrible ideas from propagating yeah anyway I don't want to sound like like thanks for too dark because I think like you kind of have to be optimistic about the future there's no point in being pessimistic it's just too negative this house doesn't help you know I think you want to be I mean my theory is like you'd rather be optimistic I think it rod I'd rather be optimistic and wrong than pessimistic and right right at least or on that side right yeah is if you're pessimistic it's going to be miserable yeah yeah and nobody wants to be around you anyway if it's the end of the world you like a folk told you bro yeah the world ending you know it is great for all I mean enjoy the journey right if you really want to get morose I mean it is what it is for all of us anyway we were all gonna go unless some something changes yeah you know I mean ultimately you know even if we just sort of existed as humans forever we'd be its toll eventually that'd be like the heat death of the universe right as well Ian years from now right now if we get it past the Sun if we can figure out a way past the Sun running out of juice eventually it's gonna end it's just a session of when right so it really it's all about the journey hmm or transcendence from whatever we are now into something that doesn't worry about death the universe as we know it will dissipate into a fine mist of cold nothingness eventually and then someone's gonna bottle it and put a fragrance to it sell it the French people in another dimension it's just a very long time yeah I think it's really just about how can we make it last longer are you a proponent of the multi universes theory do you believe that there are many many universes and that even if this one fades out that there's other ones that are starting fresh right now and there's an infinite number of them and they're just constantly in this never-ending cycle of birth and death I think most likely this is just about probability there are many many simulations these simulations aren't we might as well call them reality or you could call them multiverse these simulations you believe are created like someone has many if they're running on the substrate so that substrate is probably boring boring mm-hmm how so well when we create a simulation like a game or a movie it's the distillation of what's interesting about life you know I get it takes take a year to shoot an action movie and then that's all distill down into two or three hours so let me tell you if you see an action movie being filmed it's frigging it's boring super boring it takes there's like lots of takes so everything's in a green screen looks pretty goofy doesn't look cool but once you add the CGI and have great editing it's amazing so I think most likely if we're a simulation it's really boring outside the simulation because why would you make simulation that's boring because make simulation way more interesting the base reality that is if this right now is a simulation yes and ultimately inevitably we're if as long as we don't die or get hit by a meteor we're going to create some sort of simulation if we continue on the same technological path where we're on right now yes but we might not be there yet so it might not be a simulation here but it most likely is you feel other places this notion of place or where is is a flawed yes flawed equation like that if he has this sort of that vive you know which photo that's made by valve and steam and it's really valve that made it HTC did the hardware but it's really a bad thing makers of half-life yes twelve great company great company mm-hmm when you're in the and that's in that virtual reality which is only gonna get better where are you where are you really right you aren't anywhere well where is in the computer what well you know what defines where you are exactly right it's your perception is it your perceptions or is it you know a scale that we have under your but you're right here I've measured you you're the same weight as you where when you left oh you mean while your experience I didn't think you're where you are right now you might not be i'll spark up a joint if you keep talking your managers gonna come in here we might have to lock the door right now you think you're in a studio in LA that's what I heard you might be in a computer Oh missing me I think about this all the time yeah I mean it's unquestionable that one day that'll be the case as long as we keep going as long as nothing interrupts us and if we start from scratch and you know we're single-celled organisms all over again and then millions and millions of years later we become the next thing that is us with creativity and the ability to change this environment it's gonna keep monkeying with things until it figures out a way to change reality to change I mean to almost like punch a hole through what is this thing into what what it wants it to be and create new things and then those new things will intersect with other people's new things and then it'll be this ultimate pathway of infinite ideas and expression all through technology yeah and then we're wondering we're gonna wonder like why are we here what are we doing let's find out well I mean I think we should take the actions the set of actions that are most likely to make the future better yes right Yeah right right and then we evaluate those actions to make sure they're there that it's true what

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Length: 15min 2sec (902 seconds)

Published: Thu Sep 06 2018

Reddit Comments

[u/jamppa3340]

That's because they're working with his AI project, else they'd be a bunch of pedophiles.

[u/UBourgeois]

Grimes music pack incoming?

[u/SteelDarklord]

Just a side note - he's drunk whiskey and smoked weed during this podcast

[u/CillGuy]

Elon Musk just confirmed Valve 2?

[u/Weeklyn00b]

when u realize the video game industry isnt properly unionized

[u/Duwasiva]

Yes, It is

[u/DubitousAnubis]

/r/enoughmuskspam

[u/Charles-R-D]

i swear everytime i see elon talk, its like he's seen the end of time

fucker is speechless half the time

[u/kikoano]

Was he one of the guys who were privately showed HLVR?