James Allen McCune - The Gus & Eddy Podcast

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ours who I love dearly who I'm in love with and I'm telling him for the first time right now he was on the walking dead he was on shameless he started the Blair Witch movie Allan McHugh hey that was very sweet it was the sweetest intro anyone's ever given me oh we didn't try hard I really just kind of winged it it wasn't really googled your name before handed even know your last name yeah we've been calling you Jamie and I was like is that the whole names like share or like Jamie what's up Jamie how you doing just you guys know before we started rolling Jamie started purposely doing that I'm not doing anything I'm just trying to get comfortable here you're gonna ignore do listeners so stop I love to that so Jamie [ __ ] you die in a ditch or a hole it's on that was I don't think that's a song I just can I'm reading the comments the second best theme song of all time what's the first thing um Iver song no that's ducktales do ducktales pretty good oh no way no I'm sorry that was crazy frog sorry sorry you know I love to that Jamie like who it was instrumental in helping us set up the podcast the first episode was like make sure to take those labels off your water bottles so you just [ __ ] munching down on obviously pretty limited time only Pringles it's like I hop they turned the pee upside down and it's bring goals the most immediate snack of all time well I had like that but they didn't do that it's a hard time I had a situation at the 7-eleven where I was just going to take a look at the new fun new flavor of Pringles that I spotted from her from outside I'm like I took a took a quick peek at it and then butterfingers and it just clapped on the ground like I was intentionally trying to get everybody's at tension with the can and I was like yes I'm buying this now I'm gonna walk down the candy aisle like I'm meant to go down there instead of just trying to hide my face from everybody have you ever had to buy something really dumb cuz you broke it in a store an accident no no I was a terrible lead in but I was at a spelling bee when I was in like six or seventh grade with my dad was driving me like to the spelling bee and we wrote the words and you know broke the bond with my father a very traumatic story thank you not to laugh at it I just smell the [ __ ] seven-layer dip chips just like seven-layer dip that's too close it's like the problem with with ranch chips they had they have their land ruffle of ranch ruffles right this is [ __ ] riveting we had ranch ruffle chips that were [ __ ] perfect because they didn't quite taste like ranch but now they taste exactly like [ __ ] ranch really isn't he the guy that played the Hulk ranch Ruffalo or what for driving down the road and you're going like I'm a look at the menu and me saying yeah is there a women you and you getting mad at me you can't do that I don't do those ever so well see that's why our relationship is about here when it could be here your father's broken relationship with you so we've driving to a spelling bee and we stopped at a gas station and I just was going to the back to the bathroom and I knocked a couple shot glasses off that has like no big titties off if you buy cheese at the end of this story that's the most Wisconsin story scottson stays in Wisconsin so my dad had to like buy four broken oh Jesus Christ that is so [ __ ] funny dude let's a sketch from the bench show if you guys don't know it it's a bench I never hear anyone talk about the bench oh but there it had some quality sketches just let sketch alone is [ __ ] incredible yeah and also the one that I'd maybe don't want to say the title of right now so Jamie what do you been working on recently what what are you up to these days I am currently a producer of sugar pine seven is a roosterteeth channel which has been very interesting I'm still also acting and whatnot I don't know it's it's a it's it's a weird I have a weird career I think in a lot of ways but lately the main gig has been like producing mm-hmm I'm trying not out that's a new hat I'm putting on yeah that's a you're very good at it that's why this podcast is rolling right very sweet of you I love the I love my credit that makes me real happy I don't know if anyone's put that on the IMDB yet people are just waiting to add our podcast MDV stuff what's funny is the executive producer credit is usually saved for people who help fund a project mostly in a producer's just like just producer or the ones who like helps put it together and stuff so executive executive producer it sounds like I have funded the people who funded the movie everyone thinks I'm loaded so Jamie I want to ask you you since you do wear so many hats like you say acting producing is that writing stuff too what is your favorite part like what is your favorite task to do I mean in show business ii stuff i hate using that term but you know what i mean i mean we are in the business of show I don't think that's reaching I men you know I've been asking myself that a lot lately because I feel like I have had multiple existential crisis crises because I've been trying to figure out that like what do i what do I actually care about because truthfully the the lifestyle of being an actor is and again I'll never sound I never want to sound ungrateful so if ever I do just know that it comes from a I'm fully aware that I'm lucky to have ever gotten to work at all in any of these with any of these hats in the first place but I am I the lifestyle of the job of acting I hate the lifestyle it is the most crippling emotionally destructive lifestyle you can live outside of being a sex worker I think you know it's it's a very I think they're very similar in a lot of ways I will never compare my struggle to theirs because you know that's a very different kind of mindset but like the I'm it's basically like yeah selling yourself and like trying to but but instead of having any control over that it's like waiting for somebody to call all day long it's like when you have a crush on someone and you've you're trying to like move the relationship forward and you text them one day and it just says read for like three days and you're like I mean I'll text back today and that's like all you think about that's my entire life it's the entire career look you go on these auditions or like you hope for an audition in the first place and then if you get one it's like you get all of these like different steps of feeling like oh maybe maybe this is the one or something like that and it's crazy because you could you could win the lottery like I have had friends who just like all of a sudden when they wake up and they're making like 30 grand a week or something like that mmm sex workers or what I just I'm not gonna divulge other people's information but they it happens like you you can you can overnight become a huge success make a ton of money and stuff but or you just you sit at home all day you just like wait and what's crazy is even if that stuff does come it goes away right away and people stop you know you immediately stop working once you've had the job and stuff you never know the current thing you're doing will be the last thing you ever do and that's really very frightening so it's interesting so I've been trying to figure out like okay if I my day-to-day is really that frustrating what what do I actually enjoy about it that's it so it's a hard question yeah what do you do to kind of like occupy yourself between like if you're between traditional acting or performing projects like that um producing has been really nice this is the first time in my acting career that I feel like I have some semblance of control with my with my day-to-day because i-i've just been like you know I'm gonna dedicate myself to being an actor full-time and it's a you know it's you just wake up and you just wait for someone to call you and you can't leave this day you can't you can't gain too much weight you can't lose too much weight you can't get a funny haircut you can't get any tattoos you like you have to kind of stay the way you look in your headshot it's kind of like hope that somebody's gonna call you and [ __ ] and it's like that dedicating yourself to being an actor full-time is like spending a lot of money on classes and just waiting and I was so miserable of doing that that now getting to be a producer is kind of it's fun because it's it's creative and I have I have more control than I ever did as an actor and I mean I really do appreciate that it's very stressful but it's it's something it's amazing what having just a structure to your day even if you're doing stuff that you're not crazy about like the difference that makes that's why it's so much respect for you guys you can get up and like start for me specially you guys you guys are incredible you blow me the [ __ ] away that's why I love about youtubers I am obsessed with the YouTube community I love it I've always been really really into it I think I've been more passionate about youtubers then I have about actors and you have fun fact Jaimie slept with most of us I mean that's the main way that I got to be an executive first executive was for sleeping with I don't want to do this anymore and we're like we'll add another executive you want the golden toilet of titles do ya I interrupted your very nice thing sleeping with me I have so much respect for you guys and and just youtubers because you cuz you you basically have you were doing it for yourself and you're [ __ ] getting up and pushing through [ __ ] and you're getting rid of all of your distractions in your home which is the most distracting place of all time and it's outside of a 7-eleven in Wisconsin when there's titty bugs and it's you're you're making you're making [ __ ] like that's that's incredible just to be able to make I have ADHD so the active accomplishing stuff is gargantuan I have the most respect in the entire world for for you guys in particular because I know how hard you guys work but the YouTube youtubers as a whole I just I'm in awe of it's like ninja sex party was on Conan the other day did you see that yeah that was awesome I was so I was like on the brink of Tears I was so [ __ ] excited for them I'm so [ __ ] excited for them they like Danny just I don't know him personally I know people who know him and it's just like I don't get starstruck about actors I'll give a [ __ ] about actors but like like the [ __ ] there's certain there's certain youtubers I'm like that's like Linus tech tips the game grumps like the there are certain people that I'm like you're [ __ ] Titans and you're in your field it's incredible and I just it's so exciting to see you guys get the especially you guys you guys are blowing up it's nice to see that you're getting the the respect you deserve you work so hard as you it's so cool well thanks dude I appreciate you yeah no that's the thing is it you're an incredibly complimentary person - I won't [ __ ] you I you know I'm not saying stuff just to get close to your ass to blow smoke up I just want the little emojis around no I well thank you dude I yeah you know it's interesting to like looking into and I've said I've talked to both of you individually I like a lot this week - where you just go through these periods as youtubers were it could seem like you know sometimes we would give off the illusion of being prepared or like hard-working with stuff but there are spells where it's like at the end of the day you are your own boss and you make yourself do 100% of the stuff that you have to do and it's like this last week - I just was like I have so much [ __ ] to do and I feel like I just wasted so much time just you know you see wake up and you sit in your room and you're like I do all this stuff [ __ ] like I'm behind on this stuff and like I don't know but thank you everything but you do it you know like you like [ __ ] eventually at the end of the final hour you know [ __ ] I gotta upload and it's like I still love shooting stuff but sometimes I just let it slip with that do you get that that way like your projects are bigger though - yeah well that's why the crap nation can be like pretty bad because for me it's like with there's videos that I'll even chip away at and they'll be like I'll get like a minute done that day when I planned on finishing that day and it's not it's never the mindset of like oh I got a little bit chipped away and it's a week till the upload it's like you [ __ ] idiot like why did you not get it done and why did you play fortnight and then Spiderman and then fortnight again yeah so that's that's kind of what that is for me yeah because yeah it's the longer ones I don't know what it's like to do this shorter ones that's it it's we've always talked about that we have the two different stressors with our stuff yours is to constantly come up with something new for the idea and then the execution is still difficult but like the editing is pretty quick and then it's out but it's like thinking of it and keeping that schedule is a lot and then mine is like having this big one thing to like chip away at and it's just like guilt the whole time but I think yours is harder to do see my your stresses me out more it's just me up to here yours boy yeah cuz I'm like [ __ ] I would just over think it's so much was like you're your uploads are like event uploads in my mind was like there's no way but that's what I think of my own videos ish no but it's like yeah I would put so much into that one thing whereas mine's like this is kind of a dumb joke if it sucks I'll have another video in like three days you know but that's that's so interesting it's like you it's it's also really indicative of your individual personalities to you know like I think that you both have like I think the three of us are very or very similar minded like we all we all kind of function I think as far as the way that we analyze things we talked about this before off-mic but like you guys are kind of doing the same thing in a lot of ways which is really fascinating to me like you're you're commenting on different aspects of life and different parts of existence on the internet and you know you talk on a whole little whole litany of things in a very detailed in-depth way and with a very critical eye and you're doing basically the same thing but in 30 seconds like you're you're you're you're finding little anecdotes about the universe as a whole and you're kind of like farting on them moments at a time and it's like you know you're both holding mirrors up to the viewer which is really cool yeah I respect that one one question of both you guys then with with work load stuff did you guys were you good at like doing homework in school and liking stuff I was [ __ ] terrible I didn't do it yeah just a minute I mean I was always of the work smarter not harder like mentality which royally [ __ ] myself over I just I stumbled and limped my way through the school system I barely passed college well I would have thought that you would have would have really passed with flying colors well I mean I the thing is I feel bad because I I'm so constantly torn between resenting like any school [ __ ] and then not wanting to like hurt people and I was surrounded by such loving teachers and professors but I also kind of like manipulatively like I knew how much I could like slack off and I was never like this grew around kid but it's like I knew I could at the end of the semester be like can you help me like cut me some slack and I felt like such a piece of [ __ ] every time but I passed you know like I mean in college genuinely this is not an exaggeration I would be surprised if in college I did more than 20 hours of traditional homework for my entire college thing like outside of like art projects and [ __ ] you know like taking homework home I probably didn't do more than 20 hours for the whole time because it was like I'd show up to class and I'd quick like wing in and get like a c-minus on something and I'm like I just passed with season D's and stuff too and like I could justify in my mind like oh I was doing YouTube stuff too I wasted so much time hanging out with friends and stuff too but like at the end of the day I passed and I didn't really like burn any bridges so mmm what about you I know I was the same way I was the same way except the difference is is that I wouldn't ask for help at any point in time I would just time be were you really yeah I was just resolved at that points to just kind of like I guess I guess I just this is gonna go poorly like I kind of it was a good test for how much can I passively absorb without paying much attention and it turns out it's the bare minimum to pass all my my [ __ ] and I'm very ashamed at that because I'm now very injured and these things that I completely glossed over but I feel so I feel like I feel like I have so little information in my head and I'm really like I'm really bad I'm really not book-smart in any way shape or form it's very embarrassing I can't hold but that's that's one of the things it's like I finding out I have I found out I talk about this kind of stuff a lot on another podcast so I apologize if somebody's like heard me somewhere else and I'm repeating myself but like I I found out that I had ADHD last year and it was a [ __ ] revelation was like oh that's why I I always felt like I was just a huge [ __ ] like oh my god I just didn't learn the way everybody else did and nobody ever cared enough to be like why aren't you why isn't this working for you and it's it I just breaks my heart to think about how many people out there who are like creative types or just like you just don't learn the same way as everybody else we're just kind of like it sounds like the way that we all were we're like I'm just not good at this I'm not smart I'm not capable or like whatever and it's so far from the truth because you guys are - as far as people I know but it's like the system isn't built for us to learn that way and it's a damn shame well what were you what was your your experience with similar was it yeah it was especially I think was something like math for me which I know a lot of people it's like it's kind of it seems like everybody I asked is either like yeah I'm naturally great at math or people are like I'm [ __ ] terrible and the thing was for me growing up I was good like really good when I was very young and then it just seemed like I would like slowly fall behind and fall behind and like hitting walls where it would be I have I'd be in like an accelerated math going into high school and I'd have like a c-plus and I'd be like kind of struggling and I'd be like I just can't do this so I drop down to the next one I'd be like I'm gonna this is gonna be easy as hell C+ in that class too and I'm like this is something about how I'm retaining this information and especially with math I was like I feel like I can't ask anybody because everyone in class are my friends and I feel like they all know what they're doing yeah so yeah I even got to a point where I just didn't especially my senior year I didn't take a math class because I was going to Community College and I was like oh I want to go to Community College and then film school and I just asked my counselor I was like do I need this and like well it's not really on the court like you don't it's not required it's like okay drop it immediately like I don't want this and I remember even my junior year of high school being like I'm I can't like everyday trying to listen to the lesson and being like my brain just keeps going like no you can't retain this you don't get it yeah at all which was frustrated that's my exact situation like I've mentioned the spelling being [ __ ] before but like spelling and literary stuff like that was so far ahead of everyone yes I was I was laughable like borderline 5 grades below everyone else at any given time I was just terrible but I was good on those you know I could add and subtract and hold that [ __ ] in my head but I couldn't do anything and again another example where I should have really kicked into gear and be like well maybe I got to do one of these I took four years of college and I did I had not taken a single math class still haven't since my sophomore year of high school and the highest I took was like algebra two and I limped my way thread to go in early for school every day to meet with the math teacher personally to help me get like a c-minus in that class I barely passed and I went to college and I had to take more math [ __ ] but I was like there's no [ __ ] way I can do this so I worked with I shouldn't throw my mom under the bus but she helped me with this but like we went to there was a high school class that took called personal finance which was incredibly helpful right why is that a core class high school should have that why isn't social skills of core class why is it taxes a core class yeah why aren't they [ __ ] teaching people [ __ ] that they actually will use yes and that's what that class was it was like here's how you balance a check but I wish it you're saying a budget short I had one in in our and I don't know if it's a Illinois law I forgot the name of the class specifically but health and that were like they were optional classes not optional but you had to you choose them at one point in the four years and everybody just chose to take them during summer school of their first two years to get it out of the way so for Illinois I think it's required that's not a country yeah that needs to be it just boggles my [ __ ] mind how people don't have we're not we don't the school system is basically unchanged since like what the [ __ ] 60s Elementary School's change a lot more I hope so I think middle schools and high schools change less I know what I'm talking about I don't but like you know the it seems like the biggest change we've we've had since back in the day as we spank children less but you know coming back or just bringing it back the last business let's put some [ __ ] nails and a board hurt people let's let's scar them for life I just it's crazy dude like I I just look if you're if you're if you feel like you're [ __ ] up and things aren't going well in school and that you're a failure and that you just can't [ __ ] do it because everybody else around you seems like they got it figured out and you don't understand what you're going through and why you're different you're just kind of faking your way through everything you just can't focus on stuff it's okay that's you're not the worst parts of your day and you're not the things that you can't do just find what you're good at and start [ __ ] working at it that's what's so cool about you guys is that you you you were like okay not school but like what what gives me worth outside of that you know just fine I didn't I didn't do that I think I like fell ass-backwards into my career I got very lucky but I didn't like aspire to anything as a kid I just didn't understand that I was capable of anything nobody ever built everyone called me stupid growing up because I just didn't understand I didn't understand how to do this stuff everybody else did I just kind of resigned myself to being like I guess I'll just you know fade away and like open a lawn care business just like that I think when you're young too you think that that is going to be the most long-lasting feeling of your entire life yes especially I don't know how the atmosphere was in your schools mine was like I think the best like the best performing class or high school ever had so it was like every [ __ ] person I looked at was like getting ready to go to [ __ ] Stanford and is like guy I'm going to Community College and working on YouTube like holy [ __ ] but yeah I think when I was younger I really thought like this is gonna [ __ ] my entire life they tell they tell you that yeah they're like this is going on your period oh my god they do even that I remember the transition from middle school in the high school how serious it was like have to learn cursive all the letters stitched together and you can't even read the difference between an in and an M it's gonna be [ __ ] horseshit if you don't learn how to do this you're gonna have to write everything like this you see how you can't read your mom's checks on purpose you got to figure it out right here right now and if you don't you're gonna get [ __ ] every time you try to do anything because everyone uses cursive can you please write print SAT essay that you have to be four [ __ ] paragraphs full of nothing but print letters you cannot use cursive it can't even look like the turn around between enforcing cursive and basically banning it with you I want to see like a cut of two different moments in my life of my second grade of them going like guys you'll need to use this to like we're learning it in third grade of them going like well when you sign for a house or something - when I got my license for the first time I signed it and I go oh I'm sorry my name is Edward and I accidentally put in cursive Eddie and they were like your signature doesn't matter whatever the hell it is you can write a the guy literally says you can write a smiley face if you want to I was like [ __ ] care that's what I signed for anything now it's an E and then a bunch of scribbles and then a B in a bunch of scribbles I said a lot of my signature I'm embarrassed I'm this that's the stupid [ __ ] like drama kid thing or like looking one day somebody's gonna sell this Taco Bell receipt for $40 I think she Google's my name once a day which is very sweet but she she found after the walking dead happened she found that people had been taking my I had been getting like fan mail for the first time as stuff and so I was sending like head shots out and my mom found them on eBay and I don't even I don't know if they're still up there but it was the saddest thing in the world because there was like three of them and they were all like $15 buy it now and it was like some [ __ ] scalpers have pretended to be a 13 year old girl in the hospital agape to center or it is the thirteen-year-old girl in the hospital she's like I'm gonna make some coin nobody knows it is [ __ ] cowboy hat cracker is what the I feel like especially we know you so we know a lot of you know these stories but I would do you have any like cool stories you want to share especially from someone like The Walking Dead or shameless because I know people listening like definitely would want to hear something like that I um yeah dude like I it's it's so strange I have a very like conflicted my brain I'm very conflicted about talking about the walk and I think I've talked about you do this with you guys talking about the walking dead it feels like I don't really have ownership over that because it it was my first job and that was extraordinarily lucky and like you know I have friends who have been who'd killed be zombies so I'm very lucky I never want to talk [ __ ] about my involvement on the show I keep I keep doing this I have to like put like a yeah like you don't call me spoiled [ __ ] because I know but like there's I when I got on the show I I did I didn't realize anything I didn't know anything I don't know anything about what I was doing or what I was up to or whatever and like the show is in a very strange transition period so I was originally gonna have a more involved storyline I think that I ended up having but what resulted was me just kind of for the most part just like me bopping around in not really accomplishing much so I feel kind of weird about being like I was on The Walking Dead cuz like yeah I was there for like 10 episodes but I really just kind of didn't creatively contribute much to the story so I feel I feel very strange I don't feel like I have ownership saying it was on the The Walking Dead as much as you know like Amy it could have heard you know I but but that said it was still probably one of the most rewarding parts of my career by far because it was I think the best thing that could have happened to me in my entire life to begin with just for my longevity as an actor but also just as a person like the cast they had don't know if his it's still a case I haven't met a lot of the new cast members but they they had like a no [ __ ] policy yeah you know and everybody it was just a good [ __ ] person and Andy especially it plays Rick he on multiple occasions would would really just kind of level with me and he he would he didn't really like breaking he didn't like breaking character like you know he wouldn't drop his accent he wouldn't always knew what I was doing the southern accent but he would still do like an American accent kind of vaguely wasn't like walking around you know all gritty and [ __ ] so but he would more or less kind of be in character most the time but he would drop character and like really kind of like love with me about stuff and kind of encouraged me to like you know when you're a leading man you can do this and like really talk to me like I was gonna do something one day and that that I think was like he taught me how to be a leading man and what to do when I'm being looked up to in general and you know how to hold myself and like Steven Yeun plays Glenn like he he so much that guy just by proxy he like really showed me how to be like a good dude in like how to how to present myself in in the job and stuff and I just you know they all really sat down with me and showed me how to had it do this [ __ ] and it was [ __ ] valuable because like when I have leading parts after that all the stuff they taught me like really you don't you don't think about it you don't think about what kind of an effect you have as the actor on set but like having produced stuff now and kind of been on the other side of production I've realized it really just takes and this is I think this is true with everything this is something Andy said it's like it takes one crappy attitude to destroy a set one person in a bad mood can destroy an entire set and as number one of the call sheet people are going to look to your attitude as a beacon for how everyone's attitude should be mm-hmm so if you're having a bad day you have to be mr. optimistic you have to push through and really you know show up and work through it and stuff and it's true cuz like I've had I think maybe like two days where I've worked and I've had bad attitudes and I you could see it we could you could smell it on set everybody everybody's feeling the way you're feeling and I think that that isn't just bald into being to the actors I think that that's I think that's the case with everything you know having been responsible for actors as a producer it's like I have to keep these [ __ ] people happy you know if they're not keeping their own attitudes in check if I if I'm not helping them stay happy the whole thing is a [ __ ] disaster to slop this walkthrough and stuff it's like you really got to have this Lake it's not lying it's just you're the most optimistic version of yourself when you're making something because how often do you get to make [ __ ] you know it's like this is this is so [ __ ] cool and it's not hard to have a good attitude and believe it's gonna you know go well and be fun and stuff but like if you heard we were shooting something some of the actors were like we really do anything from the store or anything we do like a run and like it's good some Red Bull haha and my first instinct was like we need to get ripple they're joking but they don't think they need Red Bull but if they don't have Red Bull we're going to need them to have a red ball it's like if they if they if they joke about it they're getting it because it's it would take one like one person can be like no it's kind of hoping yeah everybody else to be like nice I guess maybe they're not thinking about our best interests or what we want or you know is it's it's how it's crazy how quick people can shift and how that can shift an entire room but yeah and I owe so much to those guys and girls and everybody on set for putting me through like boot camp on that show is incredible and that's not how every the other jobs that I've worked on there's nothing nothing like the that set that set was full really kind people who worked so [ __ ] hard and they just they really were huge examples for how to not be a ticket what I love here and stuff like that that's just I like hearing stuff like that when people cool in a show yeah so that was the the first time that you were like on like a traditionally camera doing something because you didn't stage acting stuff but that was like first so was that first day like the most nervous you've ever been because I feel like that is [ __ ] terrifying yeah because I was a huge fan of the show so okay I I like like meaning everybody was so [ __ ] surreal to make side well I didn't you know I'd seen all these people like just Google Gale Anne Hurd is the producer of the show just google her what she has done is pretty much shaped society for our generation I think in a lot of ways like the [ __ ] Terminator movies like dude really yeah well I didn't know that I didn't either until that first day damn and I googled it it was like suddenly my pants are chock full of [ __ ] is Jamie ready to go I'm gonna need a moment it's a Hershey factory downstairs just keep the southern accent no need to do that radio voice like this just stay in character maybe I have taken britches was like walking past the trailer and he hears that and he's like I have an idea it's like a serious moment zombies are rushing in like Rick's going for his gun and then just right on frames and suddenly [ __ ] perfect the motivation was there he was feeling it he was in character the man actually [ __ ] his breeches there's a [ __ ] producer meaning how quickly can we kill this guy as quickly as you can [ __ ] his breeches no I was [ __ ] nervous as [ __ ] especially because again I was a huge fan of the first season and I remember pulling up on set and I just met Amy and she and I were kind of in similar boats I later found out that she was on Broadway and like did all this other cool [ __ ] so she was way more experienced than I was so I you know I she is I [ __ ] adore that girl she is so she's so I feel like the word talented is kind of disingenuous to how hard people work because people feel like if you're talented you just get [ __ ] but she she is not only talented but she is really [ __ ] dedicated and that's Emily Kenny you know yeah okay she plays that Beth right on the show she did yeah yeah it's I didn't see it live either but she and I were kind of like you know like shaking in our cowboy boots and [ __ ] and in the distance because we're on the field uh the the farm that we shot at and it's just like expanse of Georgia landscape that just rolls for miles and miles and stuff and the distance I could see like this there's this little like raisin just like jogging around in circles around trees and [ __ ] and like what the [ __ ] is over there and [ __ ] it Andy Lincoln he's he's doing laps and his cowboy boots and stuff he's covered in fake blood and he's he's getting actual sweaty before the the scene like it's the scene where he's carrying Carl up to the thing that was a very first thing we were shooting hmm was his approach on to the farm and he is in between sets he's got his headphones in and this tiny like pink iPod and he's listening to like country music and [ __ ] and he's jogging in his cowboy boots around the farm and I was like I was like who's that you know and they told me and he sees us he sees the van and he looks over and he pulls his earbuds out and he comes over and that's the first time I had the first time I met him was him he was an in character he spoke in his actual accent and like he that's a really big deal like he was he was in it you know like he was getting ready to go and stuff and he dropped all of the progress he had made for the past like I don't know like hour or something like that if I'm just running around just to introduce himself it's so cool he was [ __ ] it was huge it's like the I wasn't lost on me the gravity of doing that kind of thing it was huge it was it was it's such a testament to his character and like there is nobody there was any cameras you know watching him do that or like you know he wasn't trying to impress anybody or anything he's just a good [ __ ] person that was that was huge yeah so I was super [ __ ] nervous but like that introduction was like oh this is this is gonna be good yeah it was really cool it's very very lucky yeah that was that was really really cool no that's awesome what would you say is the acting work that you're the most proud of that you've done on any any project ever that's hard cuz I honestly I'm not really proud of a lot of the stuff that I've done if I'm honest like looking back like again the walking dead I really didn't contribute much and whatever I did do it was kind of like I was really it was really kind of I didn't really I didn't really know what I was doing so there's really not much to it I'm the most and shameless I really I feel like it was the first thing that I really could take ownership of because I had an actual like I contributed to the story you know I affected a character in a way that wasn't just like I'm in the background you know zip zap zop and with the props I was actually like with the story and stuff yeah I had a character is that what you died on the walking dead is because you're trying to fight like stop the actual [ __ ] cement you know I've seen before I'm trying to gross the zombies out so they lose their appetite [Laughter] I see podcast proud stuff oh yes so yeah no shameless I I really like what I did there at my character was a little special and I loved him thought he was super sweet and it was he was a piece of me that was like 10 years younger and I kind of based him off my nephew too in a lot of ways and it's like it might not be like immediately apparent that I was doing something with that but like emotionally I really felt really connected to what was happening there that was a real super uncomfortable set way to say that difficult today I mean I told you about the situation on that show you told me a little bit about that I think in the fact oh and we at the Americana it was a long time ago yeah yeah yeah yeah so for those who don't know I played a character named Mattie Baker in the fourth season fourth and fifth season of shameless and my character is like this real sweet kind of loner kid who gets involved with a the the young one the I think the youngest girl of the family I think she's I don't think there's anyone there's like younger boys but yeah the youngest a girl of the family and she doesn't realize that I'm in my 20s and I don't realize that she's like 13 so she's like 10 years younger than me and she's like 10 years younger than me in real life too so the character progressively gets more and more involved with this character in a way that gets a little more romantic and confusing and when we find out each other's ages it gets real wacky find out what happens next time in prop game get ready big booty big booty big booty oh yeah what's up big booty and it was a little uneasy she she's when you're a kid on set you have you have to have your parents behind the camera and like you have to go to school at amount of time so quick and you also can't be on set for a certain for longer than a certain period and so she like she's like in like a nightgown trying to like seduce me and stuff and her like actual dad is behind the cab oh wow great guy really sweet dude but it's there's just something about the patriarch of the family just like staring at this 20 year old as he's being like grinded on by a child we have lost a prop down or there was a shape it would be these yeah the was a good improv prop and you saw anyway yes yeah so it's just it's it's ah it's uncomfortable in that situation and I tried very hard to like be cool and be like it was pretty weird right just cuz I didn't want her to actually feel like I was enjoying it in a weird way yeah and I realized there was there was a moment and I'm kind of I'm kind of proud of it in a weird way but I I realized that I was probably making her more uncomfortable like I probably she's probably not understand realized she's probably not understanding that I was in character in a lot of ways so I think she was made to be aside from just being like this young girl in this very adult environment doing very adult things and having to be in the public eye and stop aside from those things it might not be apparently obvious that she's that I'm not actually interested in her and the way I realized that was the director of one of the episodes who's a really sweet woman she came up to me and she started talking me like so where are you from and what do you do how long you been doing this and I was like oh she doesn't realize that I'm fully functioning adult and you know like not like special needs at all ya know cuz I really tried to and again that's like I I'm really happy that that I could have that effect and stuff but it was still like I had this like realization like oh [ __ ] what if everybody's not aware that I'm in character and they just think that I'm actually this perverted guy who is just real slow and it's like enjoying this intimate [ __ ] with this kid and stuff and so I like I like talk to her I like dropped everything and I was like yeah so um that's what I realized like I don't know I would not consider myself like method but even like encroaching into being and just I'm just not a good enough actor to be able to like go back and forth really quick and so it was it was like I I can't imagine how like Daniel day-lewis could possibly be full-on in character a hundred [ __ ] percent all the time because that was that scared the [ __ ] out of me it's like I want people thinking that I'm that guy yeah he's a nice guy but like that's a [ __ ] up thing for people too conclusions of but you know so is like now I don't like drop everything and be like yeah so here's a you know like a very like try to use a lot of like like two-dollar words and like all right a great week I mean my 45 year old girlfriend go Cyrus I drink it real nice whiskey just in case here's my high school diploma as you can see here I am attracted to adults here's my attracted to adults places that we all carry around and as you can see I've [ __ ] my pants do you not have but yeah that that led to a lot of talk where there was just an awkward awkward [ __ ] and then show and it ends very awkwardly as well Mike Mike character art and that was a it was an interesting interesting time I'm very proud of that performance hmm but I do think that the the this it's it's just there's there's a there's a catch with like everything that I've done and I really feel like with Blair which I just I just didn't get it I don't know I did like didn't understand it or like what do you mean like oh you didn't hit it like you're proud of it yeah I felt it like I think emotionally it's so interesting because I think emotionally I was there but like it didn't play on screen okay I I worked really [ __ ] hard on that movie and I'm very proud of the work I did on it but I'm really not I'm really not proud of my performance in it it's just some it's crazy how that can happen like you think do you think that things are going one way and then when you watch it you're like no [ __ ] you guys ever had that oh well I was gonna say briefly I've not seen the movie yet yes I have not but when we saw the trailer - I've told you this already in person I'm like a lot and long but I still like love you as an actor and I think that you have this gift of like making you seem believable even though I know you personally so even when I like saw the trailer for it I was just like believe it right away yeah so yeah your [ __ ] no that's just a - like um I have not watched your stretch of shameless I watched the first episode that you were on I was already I was already all caught up on The Walking Dead where as soon as you tweeted at me you know a long time ago I immediately recognized your profile picture but like but when I watched the episode of shameless - you immediately just dissolved and like that's a character on screen - oh but but for Blair which - I haven't seen I mean I maybe watch the trailer a long time ago but that is going to be so different knowing you so well and then just watching you like because especially at this point like we know you so well and then you're like the star of this like horror movie it's gonna be so like strange - that connection you know yeah my goal with that character was to just be as and this was a [ __ ] mistake but I I wanted to be me I just wanted to be like it just felt like I when I was like reading the stuff at the auditions and stuff I was like I just get this like this feels like me and so and then the character was even named James like they named it actually I think that they had named it that prior but they I can't remember what they said if they if they had changed it for me or not but like it was a different name while I was auditioning and they changed it to James as far as I was concerned laters it was like oh this is this is me and so I just really tried to just be as close to myself as possible in a lot of ways but that just made it harder to like wash off when I got home and so it it really it really kind of put me in a really fucked-up headspace for a very very long time and I don't think I don't think I'd fully recovered from like dive-bombing myself emotionally during that process for like two years following because of the nature of what the film was or because of how you felt about the performance I just think I was like trying really hard to like to like live in it all the [ __ ] time and like and again it was it sucks cuz I don't I don't really feel like this stuff comes off it comes across on screen but emotionally I was doing the work I really felt like emotionally I was there but I don't think I really appreciated the universe as much as I as I could have done and I don't feel like my performance really shows what I was feeling the way that I wish it had in a lot of ways I think the movies I like the movie but I think that there's just some there was I didn't play to the camera the way that I think I needed to it was it's a really difficult thing doing film footage because you're kind of tasked with being as real as possible you can't do anything fun like tricks the you do on camera for like a TV or TV show or anything like that mm-hmm so it was just kind of trying to be me and like what that entails is basically just [ __ ] traumatizing myself every night and like watching this I would watch the first one every night before bed oh my god yeah how long was this shoot for late months Jesus Christ oh that movie is already like the original is [ __ ] scary that's one of the scariest movies I've ever seen that was the restful yeah that was my lullaby imagine like the last thing you did before you slept every night every night I would take a bath I would watch the flash and then I'd put that on while I was getting ready for her bed and stuff and chase it with Blair Witch yeah yeah I would I would fall asleep to it a lot of time and like I was I was like I was just going through it just it just did a weird it just did weird shits me and it's like I went through a lot of therapy and a lot of like I went through a lot of physical therapy had a therapist after a physical therapist afterwards when I got home I went to Georgia after I got back and I saw somebody was like giving me like a massage and she's like fit it's long you show up back she was like this there's something very wrong with you you know it's like it was she basically was like you [ __ ] up like a slinky it has been toss in the trunk of a car and gotten an accident like I would I'd really like physically [ __ ] myself up because I was wearing the big-ass backpack all the time and we were hiking for like 14 miles a day and she oh my god Jesus Christ dude and I I had I had this thing in my head about it where like because in the script things don't really go wrong until a certain point in the script there's like a certain night where things just all of a sudden [ __ ] shift and there's no safety anymore and up until that point we're hiking basically and that's like the first two-thirds of the movie essentially and I so I was I always like to have a thing that I on two four four four parts just to kind of like like it I don't know if like a totem is a pretentious thing to say but like just like a thing that I'm like this is this is my character and for me I've used the backpack in for James in because the the backpack was my safety until this certain point when I lose it and there's no more safety left so I I wouldn't have any relief like I wouldn't let them take the backpack away from me while we were rolling at any point in time so I was just wearing this heavy ass backpack yeah all [ __ ] day long every single day until until that part of the shoot was done and then it was just night shoots the last month was nothing but night shoots and so we were we were shooting like 14 hours at night on our feet doing French hours which is basically just instead of having one lunch break you're basically getting a fed a small meal every hour so you're on your feet the entire [ __ ] time the entire night and I'm sprinting and screaming and like crying and like so I was like you know it sounds pretentious to be like the movie I was it's like if I can get over it you know but it Slayer [ __ ] prod yeah right it's just like there's it's it sounds really [ __ ] cornball but it's like you know go outside and cry for two months at night every single night and listen to Heather Donahue scream her [ __ ] brains out every night while falling asleep and like and now it's like maybe it's pretentious but like it [ __ ] me up I put myself in a really weird position I didn't have to do that I think you know it was really frustrating to like do all that [ __ ] and - I completely [ __ ] lost my mind I lost my [ __ ] mind I came home and Mimi and I had just started dating at the time and I completely dive-bombed my relationship with her because I was afraid of what I was experiencing I didn't know what to do and so I just the only thing I knew was I was like [ __ ] it get everything away and I completely destroyed everything around me and she said that while I was sleeping I was like screaming in my sleep every night and I was like oh that's why I haven't been sleeping and haven't getting any rest because I'm having night terrors every single [ __ ] night and she was there every night and I was just like screaming and constantly having waking up waking her up and like I was swearing in my sleep and like standing up and like running around [ __ ] and I was crying nightly in my sleep and I didn't even know what's happening I'd wake up and be like oh that's up so well and she's if her hair is everywhere in like shots for the Kray would you do to like kind of cope without her combat then I broke up with her and I left really I was I freaked out I freaked the [ __ ] out and I think I spent the following two years just in like a really weird head space I don't really blame that I think that had much more to do with a lot of anxiety and depression that I wasn't dealing with and stuff just in general but I think that kick-started a really big hard steep dive for my mental health that I really didn't I really didn't know what to do with and you know eventually we got back together and thank God but like there was that time period was just so strange because I wasn't prepared for what I was doing and it was also on top of all these things like I was like [ __ ] myself up physically and emotionally every single time but I was also doing the Andy Lincoln special which is being mr. [ __ ] positive all the time yeah and I don't know if you've heard emotional labor but it's this kind of thing they associate with like people who work like service jobs and stuff it's like that's a really exhausting gig to be like a cash register person or to like whatever cuz you happen to be like thank you come again like all [ __ ] day long it's not how you it's not how you feel you're basically lying to yourself and everybody around you and it's like that that like that the struggle is really physically exhausting in a lot of ways and I think I was doing that as I was like I was like losing my [ __ ] brains during the day and screaming and running around and sweating and like hurting myself physically like it's going great having so much fun it was like I collapsed multiple times out of exhaustion and would come up and be like go well and then I wouldn't sleep at night and I did that for [ __ ] two months it was like I just didn't I didn't know what I was doing to myself idea again there's just like weird thing that I think a lot of actors do whether you read about like Christian Bale who did all these huge [ __ ] diets and exercises and stuff and have you like losses mine on terminator because he's such a like [ __ ] hard actor he's like working so hard a so emotional and stuff it's like that's we really put a lot of praise on people when they hurt themselves it's like a contest to work so hard that you're in pain and it's not cool it's not smart you don't need to be doing it look if you're get into acting don't hurt yourself like use your stunt double let that let that person work they love it and they're gonna get mad at you for not letting him work as I found us look dumb [ __ ] tough I'm gonna go jump [ __ ] land on a goddamn ground back first or like drive a car and crash it [ __ ] it's like I've done this stuff because I wanted to be like [ __ ] Tom Cruise and it really I just put myself in the production in danger and I paid for it every single [ __ ] times it's not it's not it's not more impressive to hurt yourself when you're working on stuff it's it's just kind of silly and I think that I it just frustrated me to like do all that [ __ ] and to watch the movie and go like it doesn't play can't believe I did that [ __ ] and I don't feel any of the things in my performance like I felt like was really flat like man that I have such a very proud of the movie as a whole I think just because we all worked really hard on it I'm really proud of everybody else's performances and stuff but I want that I'm just like that's not I didn't do what I wanted to do it's a very weird very weird so this is the very in the longest way to ever explain to answer your dream Lee and know it gives such good I mean I don't blame you I don't think anyone can pretend to understand what anyone else's experience was like on a thing but like yeah just from an outside point of view it's not surprising at all to see how like that would have long-term like impact I mean you put yourself through so much physically and mentally and emotionally and [ __ ] like that like it makes sense I mean you know it's not like that after like boohoo like I don't I don't make it sound like I'm I'm like you know tortured actor or whatever it's like I don't I think the main thing that hurt me was just not addressing that I was going through something and not trying to find a solution to it until last year you know it was to the point where Mimi had been so used to me being in this depressive destructive state that when I started to actually get help and sort of to get proper medication to see doctors and to see to have a consistent therapist and like really work on myself and stuff she wasn't sure how to respond or something I'm not used to this guy yeah it's strange man like mental illness affects everything and everyone around you and stuff and it's like if you're if you're an artist in some way and I do feel like that also is pretentious to label anybody who's not doing a conventional job as an artist but like you know if you like making [ __ ] it's probably because you're trying to fill a hole I think in a lot of ways you're trying to like trying to do something that you feel like hasn't been done for you yet and unfortunately I think that we've now put like this glory around hurting yourself for your art or something and it's scary cuz that if you already have a mental illness and you start to willing like pursue pain or something like that it's like you're not max Bemis and if you are look what he [ __ ] went through to write that music who's the max penis I'll take the fall I said say anything oh he wrote no no not that not that movie but like the band I don't know if any what you guys listen to emo but it [ __ ] brilliant brilliant man is that the Easter the marshmallow Easter things those are delightful they haven't you see they have them in yellow now I used to think they were just in pink the yellow I saw one that wasn't even a duck or UB animal true little peeps plural little peeps did you see if it was in the shape of a banana I went over this three times of them today if it wasn't even banana flavored oh he told me that he like brought some gifts for us for the podcast and his whole bag was full of hard candies he tripped and they spilled all over the ground I know if you heard this crunching while we were stepping over to set yeah is that why I heard him screaming oopsy poopsy you know yeah yeah and he said you know we know he's saying he want to see poop see I got some nose it's a little much you with us right I've got some good nose yeah I've [ __ ] it's a new it's like a new meme Steve had a really funny Instagram post from it one thing this is just not even of the like critical sense of like performance or anything like that there's was there like a traditional screening for Blair which I assume there would was because it was like a red-carpet premiere yeah as you [ __ ] flash another brand you know I keep seeing it my mouth was getting very Canada dry sure is refreshing all slamming [ __ ] on the table tastes exactly like it's actually like I'm gonna make in a restaurant putting some chips into it you know that queso is it actually Mexican sorry it went [ __ ] trigger-happy on the [ __ ] soundboard I got Jamie here just destroyed I liked it until the white guy started talking my question really though is is it really bizarre I feel like I am my worst nightmare would be to be the star of something [ __ ] die but yeah I feel like it's my worst nightmare to like be the star of something and then have to watch it with like a group of people that sounds awful it's weird man it is really weird I I think I'm I really like that stuff just dislike it's especially like one of the coolest things of my career so far was like the very first public screenings we saw it once or twice privately at the the studio and then the first like public screening was at comic-con mmm that year and it was um a really exclusive thing they were like Adam wyngaarden and Simon Barrett snoo new film the woods is coming out as a advertise it as the woods for so long and they everyone came expecting just to see this you know this this new spooky found footage film bite these these guys who are like on the on the rise and nobody in the audience really knew anything about it and there is there is a point in the movie where somebody says the words Blair Witch and the audience had no idea was a Blair Witch movie and so it was like people like throughout the beginning movie everyone's like and then somebody was like do you believe the legends of the Blair Witch and the whole audience was like no [ __ ] way dude like that was like sounds awesome regardless of the reception of the movie afterwards that [ __ ] bait-and-switch was so [ __ ] cool everyone lost their minds in the moment like that was that was like even that you don't like the movie they were like that was [ __ ] neat do you think it would have been possible to market it as the woods or do you know if it was a good studio decision or actually I don't know if you should we'd always plan to do that yeah and I thought it was brilliant until I saw what that act would actually happened with that what it really because it's it's it sounds like a really [ __ ] cool idea and at Comic Con that was a really cool idea but the truth of the matter is is that people didn't associate the woods and Blair Witch and realize there was this big switch and so really we just advertised Blair Witch for half as long as we were actually advertising the movie because the people didn't realize the woods was the same thing okay like what happened in the woods movie you know it just it was it's kind of unfortunate and I think that because it was being pushed as like this is Blair Witch this is the Blair Witch it felt very like oh they're doing a [ __ ] remake hmm kind of situation and so people went into it with this this thing of like come on you know and this is what everybody's been doing all year long is just making like you know these these like really over produced versions of cult classics and stuff and so we have this built-in audience who is extraordinarily passionate like horror fans in general are some of the most pretentious like passionate people of all time there's so into horror movies Blair Witch fans oh my god that is a whole nother level of passions it's got this whole lore behind it yeah all these like theories and [ __ ] and so people got really really into it and it kind of they went into it with this lake oh yeah trying to make a movie better than the first one [ __ ] you and it was you know so not to say that that not to negate everybody's very genuine feelings about the movie but I think that there was a level of like try me you know when they wouldn't see the movie and stuff because it was also marketed like the scariest movie that has ever existed you will [ __ ] your pants and everybody's like doubt it it was a hard sell man I think I think that it was it was I there is a world where we marketed it as the woods the whole time and the whole world found out it was a Blair Witch movie mid screening you know and didn't go in with any expectations that'd be cool and I think that that in that world it might have actually might have actually done better but it didn't do bad I think there's a lot of people who like really very strongly dislike it for all of the clout that lays on top of it being a Blair Witch movie alone much less how they actually feel about them if they just like the movie but I think I think that it would have I think it might it might have actually been beneficial to if people to go in without any expectations or sort of like yeah idea yeah it like matching the very the first one or something isn't that kind of how they advertise the first one to like I remember hearing stories around the first one like as I'm telling you did you know about the Blair where did you see that they're selling peeps year-round now I saw a blue one they don't make ducks blue we watch Blair Witch for two months in a row even talking like that's ever since my sister in the woods it's been 20 years amazing she'd still be alive this is how you contracted a PTSD issues turn into like a radio announcer from the 40s and now as we around the corner I sprint in my Dockers and [ __ ] present tense yet though we're making progress as we here we are we're bringing it back around we make our way to [ __ ] pants in almost every podcast episode yeah it's improv zip it's a universal trip I mean truth as opsins up is if adapt you [ __ ] idiot gossip steps up I was doing feel really bad when I [ __ ] around with you guys like that I was just thinking of Cosby thing but Zoop I just like to point out that I got both of your references a zip zap zop and big booty because I'm mad you see I'm a theatre dick I have that running joke with you guys where I'll like snap but you all of a sudden be like a huge dick and it I feel like go to I'll like go to lie down and go to bed and I'll just like it right before sleep and be like my friends like always felt really genuinely bad because I love you guys last episode I think my favorite like bits to do or when my friends are being mean to me I think it's so much fun to you like being next he's into it no it's gonna say the natural follow-up to the [ __ ] things have you ever [ __ ] your pants there's a line there's a line that you can cross very simply it it's it's hard sometimes to designate if this is this is this may be just a very confident fart or oh I thought you meant do I answer this question I don't know the lining of his pants they got [ __ ] on like is this just a really embedded my pants situation is beautiful and it's hard to tell sometimes because if you have enough see via Cola sometimes the lines get blurred is that the case I just bought a whole [ __ ] like 10 pack of telling you dude that if fake sugars are not your bag you will [ __ ] damn and not even know it that's the worst thing I was like I'm suddenly I was tweeting I was just doing my taxes for the last three hours suddenly quite lubricated not even that sweaty right now was that way I kept sliding off the chair that was dealing with dare declaring dependence not to Pam sure where it occurred from I don't think that I'm proper like since being a kid I don't I don't think that I've completely her she'd in my my trousers I don't think that I have it I think I've had situations where I've it's it's like you know it's not a fun it's not a it's not a Disneyland in my pants it's but it's you as far as like the olfactory association with it but I actually like I'm [ __ ] yeah I don't think so that's good that's a good answer though have you we shared in the past I said when I was a kid I forgot I totally forgot that I'd [ __ ] my pants another time - okay yeah like really no I was I was painting her Nell we me and my buddy Joe were it was back when we're in high school and we were washing windows for like an old woman at his church or something like that so we were just like a twister was like the windows of the church or drop you name drop dungarees earlier so we're just washing windows and she brings out because it was like we got there like 8 a.m. and it was like 2 p.m. and we had so much to go or like we need to eat like I don't want to get all like osha on her ass for it's like we were in the middle of nowhere like out in the country i was like in [ __ ] hungry and she just comes out and she's like also put a camera in the back [Laughter] I should have known because um she practices as she's like I don't have a lot of food in the fridge but I found some Jo at the back I've got to be confident when you eat tuna you have to know for sure where I'm from and it was like his high school three Sport athlete Gus I was [ __ ] starving so like and I hate tuna so I bite into it and right away I could tell it's tastes a little funky but I but and the thing is Joe took a bite he's like this is disgusting and he dumped his whole plate like right in front of her no like she wins a ship later I think a tuna sandwich is the most regular sandwich that's like the most polarizing of like I don't know what they like but I guess I'll just throw a tuna sandwich together I [ __ ] hate tuna it's terrible gusting it sounds worse than it is I know it looks bad that's when I look at it because my family all of them like it and it's like just hearing the like good and I'm like no get it away from me smell it sounds like two high schoolers making out for the first time I do with my mouth my tongue put the whole thing in there what did you scoop all this tuna in between us before we started lubricant Joe Joe dumped it outside jumped it out and I ate like the entire thing and then it was like about half hour afterwards I started pleasantly enjoying some very so nourish farts and I was like it was funny we're just like listen to music and stuff and just it was it was one of those rare situations where you could like almost that like you're back in college but hey Joe you know just a dumb joke and it was probably like the 20th fart or so I was up on a ladder hey Joe I immediately knew I [ __ ] my pants that's one of the worse not places publicly but physical places to be is unless you can please tell me you were wearing the shorts are wearing right now just like khaki short shorts worst one I can think of is like a treadmill I was like immediately I was just like sort of like I went down the ladder and I went into the front entryway cuz I was going in cuz she's like if you need to use a bathroom it's right here so I went into the like entryway and it was just as she was about to go into the bathroom and I was like I'm so sorry I just was coming in to use the bathroom she's like dude do you mind of I go friend so I was like and I didn't want to go back outside so I just was like standing in her entryway with like [ __ ] in my butt and I just couldn't like and then here's the problem too was like I'm I clearly ditched my underwear you know luckily my pants were salvaged but like what am I gonna do I could try to flush them and clog her old lady toilet oh by the way old lady toilets are the weakest [ __ ] water pressure everyone any old woman's bathroom I like I don't know if they poop little deer pebbles or whatever but like they're weak as hell so I was like well I can't just throw it in the garbage and leave like my shitty boxers there so I had to like take her garbage bag out and like and like wrap him up and like put him on my pocket and like run out to the back woods and just wing him into the woods like I mean like that she's seen some [ __ ] like she would if you had been like excuse me missus I assume your name is Edna Doubtfire but yeah yeah like I [ __ ] my pants I think she'd be like I get it you know I like she's probably like God but like I guess in those moments you want to be like something like that when you're talking about tossing it I just like combine the images of like Blair Witch Jaime's like running this must be her [ __ ] she wears Hanes boxers oh my god I you know there was a time I was I don't really remember this situation it's mostly the kind of thing that people talk about like there's this there's this my friend used to live down the road from me and my house my parents house back in Georgia and he his name was Alan Craig line and he used to live up the street and when I was little that I had to been like 5 to 8 years old something like that and I I I was we weren't allowed in their house for some reason very much so I've got this fear of going to the bathroom in their house because his mom was Alan's BOM was was really not into us being in there because little boys are dirty and she has she had every reason not to let us in the house so like I had to go and it felt like my house was so far away and retrospect two houses down not that far but at the time I was like I'll never make it and I [ __ ] in the yard that this big like bush like this hole this big thing of bushes and I remember I went I like went into the bush and it was it was like in the Legend of Zelda where you go into that where you find the the flute in the forest is like this looks like sudden opening in the center of it and I was like there's so much room here this is the perfect place to [ __ ] and I just took a dump in the yard and now that was bushes aren't there but every time I Drive by the yard my cousin [ __ ] in that yarn that's let's play yeah every time with maybe I'm like this I killed that Bush yeah yeah that's probably the closest I've come to actually going all the way to - that's a good one I have a question that we've asked some people before in the podcast who I'm wondering if you have a hot take on it do you know / are you willing to share the most uncomfortable experience you've ever been in I'm the most uncomfortable experience of yeah they've been a few very uncomfortable experiences and they range all the way from g2 are some in Z 17 is that it still I don't know I still see it advertised on the MPAA thing but like is it still the MPAA and like yeah yeah yeah but like that's like at that point it's just pornhub yeah I'm a shitty producer I never Google who think I admire the tab studio I just like keep my YouTube channel page up and that's the only [ __ ] thing you just in his brain yeah that's a you you you've told me that you're gonna ask me this and I'm still like gosh on the spot we ask people at night still can't remember like a good one for myself I have I have one I told it before I'm the official podcast a while back so I hate to Eskimo brother you're a man or a woman loves an Eskimo or anything I know what it is guys when you rub your noses together with the same person it's your friend so I think I'll tell I'll tell that story it's it's it's an interesting story at least even if you've heard it before I've yet to learn the most efficient way you know how you tell a story multiple times and you're like but I like the fourth time you're like yeah I got that story down pat yeah I [ __ ] it up every time I tell it because it requires certain specifics but there was an episode of shameless where I had this director who had been an ad on former episodes we knew each other we were fond of each other got along great but he was directing for the first time and I was still I don't know it was like episode my my fourth episode something like that so I was still getting in the swing of things I wasn't quite settled in yet I just gotten off an episode with the director who I [ __ ] loved and we were just so we got along so well he was from Georgia and we had we had a lot in common I just I felt I was feeling really [ __ ] good and we switched the next episode on the same day um he starts directing and I'm really excited to work with him but just stuff just didn't go well at all it was just a series of fuck-ups from someone we weren't really sure I wasn't I wasn't sure if it was me or if it was him or like what was what was happening but I kept [ __ ] everything up and it was like a snowball or just eventually everything was a mistake and it's got worse and worse and I forgot all of my lines all at once and it was a really long scene and there's a lot of technical [ __ ] I'm terrible at technical stuff like moving walking and talking at the same time and stuff awful with it so the first day was dreadful and I thing of the day I was like hey man I'm sorry that I kind of didn't drop the ball today I don't know what happened I had a lot of bacon this morning I don't know if that's what it was and he's like you'd blame this on bacon man I was like oh [ __ ] no dude I was making a joke man I'll talk to you later it was like and that's how that that's how the the episode started and we had a whole week to go damn dude and so we're we're shooting things that aren't really getting much better the rest it's just we just didn't speak the same language it was my first run-in with like someone who just didn't understand me and I didn't understand them we just didn't have the same we didn't have the same brain in any way shape or form and it was just a big [ __ ] up the entire way through and we had but we had one final day at the very end he's a great guy I don't want to I don't want to talk poorly of him at all because he's [ __ ] great he's a great director and just we just somehow we cross wires and [ __ ] and it just it's such a [ __ ] bummer he's a good dude I think we work great as friends but man just we just didn't we didn't understand each other just there was just so much [ __ ] and cut to the next week we're shooting the next episode and he's a being for that one so he's not directing anymore new director and we do the table read for that episode and it goes well and we're wrapping up and stuff and everybody's like getting snacks and like walking around and stuff and he comes up to me and as like a as a you know like at and to make amends situation he bumps man he's like man I love you James Alma Kuhn it's like you know really really nice tender moment I was like I love you too Gary thanks man he walks away he waits til he's a good Queen 30 feet away looks over his shoulder and goes it's Greg guess who guess who he was adjacent to that's right guess so he was adjacent to and that happened William H Macy no Jamie no and that's the last time I ever saw Gary shameful that is painful man [ __ ] bad pretty low has such a sweet guy he was such a good dude I just I don't think I'll there are many situations that are like that immediately disturbing oh oh really quick for the audio listeners Gus and I took off our headphones and walked away sorry silence I should have just started like making fart noises with my mouth quietly when you walked off that's that one hurts yet it still hurts right that's that's that is genuinely if I'm not thinking about if I've made a misjudgment with a joke with you guys I'm I'm like let's like go through all of the things that I [ __ ] up in life with that situation and [ __ ] every time you have a restless night and you're just like thinking remember that time I call them gear what's what's great is I I shouldn't really can't remember that if that's the name or not and it could be that I am wrong I hope to god he'd never it never gets he's not like watching that sneeze like he's still saying my [ __ ] name up I just look I I have ADHD I'm terrible with names I'm really [ __ ] bad at names it's not because I didn't like him or there's something that's just like one of those things if you forget somebody's name it's such a common understandable thing to do but god damn it [ __ ] insults every time somebody open I would I would just be like oh man he was close let's just leave it there yeah he he was I earned it I review is just a huge fan of Danny and he's like I don't go by Gary anymore I'm Greg now I still feel absolutely shitty about that great dude I just man yeah if I'm like right before bed it's like the time that I accidentally farted in a girl's face when she bent over to pick up a pencil the same time I bent over to pick over a pencil and in middle school and then that that situation it's always it's always like remember that thing you did she sat there in it and just went it's Greg she said this boy just farted it's like we both the same time we're like you know but I get up and my first instinct was like maybe if I act like I heard someone else do that and I thought it was gross to think that it was someone else because with somebody who farted act like it's gross and look around the room all shot did you just get your face farted into I think somebody else dropped a pencil in front of us a bit right there as we were both bending down there he goes yeah oh you should have seen him blue sneakers if you see him in oh my god can you believe they still sell peeps throughout the whole year it's not even anymore it's green for Halloween now what they look like they've gone off if you go in the bathroom and see a camera yeah oh dude if you talk on the back you sound like no dude why is this oh it's 21 guns 21 guns there are 21 my friend was in the the two friends who were in the Broadway show of American Idiot really I watched the documentary on that really so I've seen your friends of my system I went to I went to high school with one of them and he's actually i tribute him for being one of the main reasons that i got into this because he was his name is chase peacock if I could brilliantly talented it sounds like a rockstar name it does because he looks like a rock star but yeah he and I look like we could be siblings if I wasn't the melting version of him like he is he is so [ __ ] he is so [ __ ] cool looking and he um he's so he's so good he's always been a really really [ __ ] great dancer and great singer and it really tremendous actor and stuff and he [ __ ] took off and did that show and it was like it's somebody was we were getting called up to the office when I was in school and it was the first time it was the guidance counselor she was like she had like you know most people have like big forms or like here's all the [ __ ] extracurricular activities and stuff for me it was like one piece of paper and she was like hey what the [ __ ] are you doing what do you want to do you try to do something we doing and it was like what do you want to do with your life it was a first time anyone had ever asked me that and I was like chased after I'll go up to New York and be an actor it was just said it to get her off my back but like that's what I ended up doing it was because I had no other answer and chase chase had just told me that he was gonna do that [ __ ] he cocked yeah he did he's a cool dude but like yeah it was super I had auditioned for that the tour of that and it was a it didn't go well really yeah I miss do a musical theater man yeah but it's like hard it's real [ __ ] hard [ __ ] stressful enough I say you did you did a big fish before you moved out here yeah yeah yeah you have just at the most ever done is just like college shows and stuff too but I mean I do this to college but it's not just you know like rifle still too late it's a big deal did you ever do any like theater or anything like that no I mean I did improv in high school but I just I can't sing so I was like I didn't die we did have like plays but the big ones were musicals there we had a great my biology teacher was like the head of the program for it and he was like I think he won like awards for Illinois for it like he was like the best in the state and I was just like I wanted to be like comedy roles even they would sing so then I just be like nah I'm good I was thinking your teacher winning an award like best teacher musical biology Division yeah biology version what time were we up we're at hour and a half on the dot okay yes I just trying to make sure we weren't running longest and inches rayguns was long our 50 or so yeah our 45 [ __ ] you Chris I'm gonna beat I'm gonna beat Beecher's get dead but Fela dude I was gonna ask I was gonna ask before because Chayton first of all chase peacock [ __ ] bang her name again yeah what are some like ordered some kick-ass band names if you don't [ __ ] listen to him oh dude I got a think that's not band names I'm gonna answer a question you didn't ask me listen so when I first got to my like first agent in Georgia I got my like legal papers and stuff those supposed to sign for them like what they're supposed to like put in all my forms and [ __ ] and they're like your real name and then stage name and I was like I could change my [ __ ] name oh I can make it whatever I want I mean my friends just spent a ton of time just thinking of like what's the douchiest name we can do the best the best one we came up with was Gavin Reese like that guy that guy where his transition lenses he selects his hair back he wears socks and sandals and he doesn't get looked at by anyone because they're afraid he'll shoot them that's me this is my future good old Gavin research if you have a bangin band name you like I was in a band I was in a few bands Wow in high school I was in a ska band thank God called which of course I was in a ska band called rising freak ball you ever told pre-screen that cuz he does a home even talking about Scott oh my god dude like he if Bruce and I went to school together we would have been [ __ ] best friends we don't best [ __ ] friends it's like you guys it was like I like I met him and I was like why didn't I grow up with you it's so [ __ ] it cracks my [ __ ] up we yeah I'm I was a huge big [ __ ] Scott alike growing up but I wanna what's kinda light is that those rude boys God too light weight is rude boy another name for it yeah dude I think a Scott the world of Scott light is amazed irias dude it's dude the the sky universe is so [ __ ] interesting to me I my favorite band was I had a [ __ ] ton but I was always really into real big fishing growing up at Scott Klopfenstein was the backup singer and trumpet player for real big fish and I was such a huge fan of him in particularly this beautiful voice it was it was gorgeous and I think that was one of the main things that made their sound so interesting is that they could really sing especially Scott and he started the side band called littlest man Bannock felt [ __ ] and go look it up it's so [ __ ] good he is such a wonderful songwriter he has a song on YouTube you have to go look it up it's it's called the hilarious he has the hilarious and welcome to New York and I swear they're like two of the best written songs I've ever heard they're so [ __ ] good and like no one could sing it but him he's so good and he he ended up being a fan of some of my work and now we're like Facebook friends oh cool I was like my brag for them but his ass in yeah I have [ __ ] loved that guy but he's making a documentary about ska I think right now so that was like its yeah brought that back around Scott Scott bands have the funniest [ __ ] names so we were we were rising freefall we never played any shows and then I was in a band that did play shows called Nathan Martin and the Hurricanes I was I was a hurricane Wow and we were changing Christian pop punk respect the Lord yes [ __ ] the system but only a certain level of system don't disrespectful has not okay I don't talk like I don't like him anymore you can't play at my church fingers in the air across your chest Paulo sysm yeah we did it we had a few weird band names and [ __ ] Grande we were we wanted to start a new ska band called Kandi Koated fury and down we were like yeah and later that is up being the name of one of real big vicious albums like really yeah did you tell your buddy that oh yeah yeah yeah that bastard he owes you royalties no he didn't do that that was those real big fishes no not that wasn't he had actually left the band by the time that uh he and I didn't talk about that we still owes your royalties I think the amount of money I get in that man at CDs and t-shirts and [ __ ] he owes you that money back famous no there are 14 people including my mom who love me on the Internet my signatures have sold for on eBay for $15 each side now by October 13 $15 more 99 shipping about what's the weirdest band oh dude okay well I'll just give my answer cuz I'm a bastard I always [ __ ] loved the band name Passion Pit oh no a single song by him but I always do oh my god what a cool band yeah dannis the first ever heard of them was they had a song on the trailer for LittleBigPlanet - and I was like this sounds awesome yeah they make some goodies you've never heard carried away maybe you definitely heard it just like you mostly I'm one of those things I didn't know those Passion Pit but that's a stank ass name Soundgarden is everything - Soundgarden is [ __ ] great dude Soundgarden is definitely up there oh my god man I have never thought about but Soundgarden yeah dude great she's [ __ ] first of all wait the band a band is only as good as their name and you know who's got the best name and best ban Hoobastank sugar RIT yes [Laughter] the same air so i [ __ ] destroy your joke is so much better why am i I was a kid I had a friend convinced me that Hoobastank was Jesus's middle name and I was like I think Jesus you bust a Christ Matthew Mark Luke who best probably I'm probably wrong listen friend it was the same friend he's like here's the thing too I look up a photo and I can't even like say he looks Asian because I mean this is a [ __ ] minefield this is a Soundgarden where it's it's it's I look I'm ignorant I don't know I saw I've seen a no way out of this conversation it's gotta make me look good one of my favorite ones it's not like the coolest band name but it's one of my favorite bands and I love how like it matches their tone of just being fun is I really love Wolfe Peck yes yeah both like [ __ ] rocks yeah they just like it matches it of it's like kind of hard you hear once you like what the [ __ ] you say yes a Vulpix sound you make when you pull your zipper up on a poofed up jacket a windbreaker that's it there I love their music man it's just some smooth [ __ ] it's just they have fun there's one video I love on their YouTube channel where I don't know the guys name it's Antoine something I think where they made some songs with this one singer that would do a couple of songs with them and then this recently like I don't know if he's a main part of the band I don't know enough about him but like they make more songs with him now and when they were on tour they did like a tutorial for like to make a certain type of salad and they just like had him sing out every single thing for it like it's really great there's this one guy who sings with and I think he's done a few different so I'm like away from the microphone like I have to produce four different pockets or I can't remember which song as he does but he is the most gorgeous voice in the entire [ __ ] world for voll thank you yeah he has him that's it for that's him yeah wait for the moment all my favorite songs of all time really wait wait for the moment I'll look up his name he we deserve to mention his name that song actually I started listening to both back my first summer of working that concession stand in the summers and I would get out when the Sun was setting so I just like for three years was like alright I'm out of work time to listen to wait for the moment as I Drive home and it was really nice because there's so chill maybe a bunch of work what are you banging lately in terms of música you know I've been listening to a lot of bad sons I'm know if you guys have heard them su in s let me see at my spoofy to look at my Spotify playlist to see so you [ __ ] just called spoofy don't brush past it look and see what's been going yeah his name is Antoine Stanley and he's a [ __ ] incredible voices showed a full voice oh my god it is [ __ ] butter it is 16:12 that's a great [ __ ] song which we ordered sling twelve it's it's called it's just called 16 12 and he just kind of [ __ ] around like I'm sure okay and then he's got um oh [ __ ] what some about baseball uh-oh should I know this it's one for one DiMaggio that's it how's it go I [ __ ] it's not it's look at me I could be Santa field is it that one no I think that's like by Kenny Loggins there's no field damn it oh shoot Kenny Loggins has one of the best songs of all [ __ ] time what is it songs oh it's John Fogerty I was wrong oh dude no Kenny Loggins very genuinely not a bit one of the best songs Jimmy you can't do that we can't do that Oh Tony add slurs over that wait wait oh this is gonna [ __ ] kill me Jesus get to the point where I'm taking too long to find it where the time doesn't just lose it yeah we lose interest them the longer I take to find it remember here it is okay it's it's Oh [ __ ] nobody's fool nobody's fool hold on Hamid are singing wait cut this part out someone's to it for a second and we're back for [ __ ] a copyrighted music you got the sodding Kenny Loggins is the French kiss of songwriters so [ __ ] good dude he's wrote he did a lot of like movie soundtracks too didn't he like with big like hit song man that's not does that still happen where it's like cuz I'm thinking back to like Kenny Loggins and like Huey Lewis in the news where it's like their songs were like blowing up with the movies and [ __ ] I don't know yeah it happens theme songs anymore they're afraid to be goofy about it it's like gummi bears [ __ ] that's the best theme song of all time gummi bears are the best theme song you can't fight me on that gummy bear is the best theme song of all [ __ ] hot crazy frog exists guys I don't know it's not even theme song a show yeah yes I remember that like gummy bear song that was an early viral video that shitty 3d animated like green gummy bear yes that had the the lead singer of The Aquabats was one of those one of the gummy bears another [ __ ] great band name that was a good one a bit mad yeah the Aquabats are [ __ ] great that was a ska band - they're not really Scott anymore they kind of do they kind of do some weird [ __ ] now they invade their behind yo gabba gabba you're saying this is if it's all common all who know Yo Gabba Gabba I do know that she info let's go oh my god it's the drop off rhythm yo Scott trivia and you [ __ ] when you were in the ska band did you and please say yes and if you didn't please say yes anyway I still have bit from Family Guy but did you ever play the AFV theme song done in it didn't it that Dan and that that Dan amped up that data at an N and it oh and then it goes Tom Bergeron [Laughter] [Music] dude you know what the best ska song is we're not even Scott anymore but Goldfinger did that [ __ ] song from Tony Hawk's Pro Skater to Superman so here I am doing everything I can [Music] it sounded cool though do any Hockett some [ __ ] bang it sound trans dude yeah go finger head like 1 skål alla boom and there's still label the sky I think but that was a good [ __ ] album holy [ __ ] that was good yeah we do one of my favorite songs ever I got from a Tony Hawk underground 1 it's a imaginary places by bus driver how'd it go I'm just here hold your hand when he dies it's one of those like hella fast like iseas he'll kill me I'd like one of those really fast raps on your cowl you're speaking real NorCal right now let's go get some cold brew coffee I'm sick I call my friend Trish even though her name is Katrina we're nearing closing out well first I just want to thank you Jamie for being on and for making this podcast possible I'm gonna genuinely one of my favorite people ever you guys are generally one of my favorite peoples ever is I'm very on the top I'm very grateful for your friendships honestly and I'm not going to take that back when we stop recording this isn't just for show you say that and that makes me you haven't hated $35 for me to say this both of you between the two of you both paying both of you paying me $35 I'm leaving with $70 total because oh no no I know you're not kidding because you you asked about getting paid $70 and then Gus was like I'll cover Eddie's cut and I was like oh yeah so then Gus is gonna pay you $70 and we're done with the podcast yep so good thank you for your friends yes you have anything to say he's gonna pay $70 hey wait wait wait Jamie where can we find you everybody can find me on all the internet on jalan Mik j @j a ll en MC i have a website called James Allen McCune com it is a [ __ ] mess that's why I like it links in the description down below go check out Jamie he's also see me on the sugar pine 7 in most days of the week I'm sorry I'm better than this I swear to God and something else oh we were talking about I don't know if this is gonna be you know we can say we can do a tentative announcement and if you can't announce it yet that's when at this point in the podcast we'll say Tony cut this out if we give you word later and Tony if it's not cut out you got to put like air horns and effects on the screen beep you special announcement tentatively what's your tentative project that's definitely coming out but is tentatively secret still it's not a big deal it's what who I don't make a big deal about it because I've like done where I've done yet where it's been like oh my god we can't wait to watch it and it's like it's actually one or two scenes it's really not that not that I wanna over blow it I'm very excited that I got to do an episode of how to get away with murder mm-hmm with good old Viola Davis and I had a real [ __ ] good time and it's the second episode of the new season coming out on I think September 27th ok I had a little fun doing that I'm live tweet out I don't want him to do it fun making that that little episode it's really it's just just don't I don't want to overemphasize it cuz I've done this in the past but it's a lot of fun and I'm very happy with how it went I think and then I get it cools how I'm in a video game I don't think I can talk about that yet though I'm in a video game it was pretty good did avid gamer that's actually you you asked me earlier what my favorite performance is that's that that makes frightened I feel like my parents in that video game is easily the best thing that I've done for me as far as I'm concerned in Psych and I get re proud of it can we kill you in the game though I guess eh can I kill you in real life I will do it oh all right well yeah so I'd say let's all bust our wallets but Gus's guys covered for this one Gus's ribbon just busts rich bust out those how you don't know those wallets give that seventy bucks going good job we should all sing or sing a song on the way out start a job start us off Gus [Music] the prayer of the children [Music]

Channel: Gus & Eddy

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Length: 109min 4sec (6544 seconds)

Published: Fri Sep 28 2018