I went from the New Age Movement to Islam

greetings and peace welcome to the dean shaw media host and we have our special guest coming up who was involved in this new age kind of movement so we want to get to know some of the things that she was involved in the meditation seems good why not getting in touch with your spiritual side seems good why not and then you get into this energy and the crystal balls and the list goes on so let's go get more familiar with this new age movement and then what brought her to now the way of life that she's upon that she's on the dean's show with my next guest assalamu so tell us a little about this new age a movement now it's like a new religion almost it is it's a huge um way of life for a lot of people um it's you don't realize the darkness of it until you really get into it um it's such a smooth way in um what happened was i went i was having a problem when i was in my 40s with going through car washes which sounds funny but my friend at the time said we need to go get past life regressed and i said well gee that makes sense not to anybody else but me and so i went and this woman said you're a very powerful healer you have a powerful third eye you know all of the so she kept putting me to more teachers and more teachers and more teachers and finally i ended up in the rocky mountain mystery school in utah channeling extraterrestrials um they were teaching us about the archangels and their wives you know just all this crazy stuff i was on that path for five years and then i found an energy guru in england and she said oh you know we have to start doing these workshops together around the world and so i i said okay you know by that time i was very hooked if you knew the story the story is that little by little i left catholicism when i was 15 and then i did buddhism and i did the kabbalah the mystical side of it and this all led up to me you know and then everybody i met on that new age path said oh you're a healer you're a toner you're this they just it just pulled me along until i did something so crazy but you know what allah wanted that now i know that so i this woman and i decided she said we have to go to egypt and i said okay now this is how i came to islam she said i have to go to egypt we have to go to egypt and tone you know and do energy work there which the workers there hate by the way the muslims so what happened was i left my my home which was 2 400 square feet i left my job i had been a hairdresser booked solid for a month in advance i left my car i left everything i got a backpack in my 40s imagine that just left everything got a backpack filled it with clothes got a passport i didn't even have a passport i've never been out of the country i fly to egypt she's supposed to meet me there she does not meet me there so i'm in the airport i don't know the language i don't know the culture i know nothing and i'm scared to death so i finally got to a hotel room and i asked her what do i do next now this is this is how allah sets things up for you she said you have to go out to the seraphim which is in sakata which is the first step pyramid that they ever built in um in egypt um and you have to tone in front of these 24 niches and i was used to that from her so i said okay so the next morning i got a taxi driver who spoke english and he took me beautiful drive to sakada beautiful get out of the city and there's a water buffalo and it was just beautiful and then you get around the corner and there's the the giza plains with gold sand and palm trees so i we pull up to the ticket office and i say to the ticket office that i want to get into the seraphim and they said oh it's impossible we're renovating it and i knew that if you just grease some palms you could get in there so um they called over there was two very young very handsome young men off to the side and dressed in little you know suit you know suit pants and shirts and they were i found out later they were inspectors of archaeology so the first one came over and he said and i told him what i wanted and he said that's impossible the second one came over leaned his face in the taxi i told him what i wanted and he he was so amused with me he became my husband three months later this muslim man three months later so this is how allah works is eventually he got me into the seraphim he got me into all these other things and a week later he proposed and i did not go to egypt looking for a husband at all but he was muslim and he was so kind and i'd watch him go around the streets and you know feed the poor and he was so good with everyone so so that's the new age path i was on was you know you you had huge crystals you would sleep with every night and um there's a big community and so you don't feel alone it's not like you're by yourself so that also was a very um it was a pull it was a pull for five years really i was in it so deep and how i got out of it is another story uh so let's go let's back it up a little bit let's just touch upon before you got into the new age movement can you tell us you were your parents were christian let's just touch upon that briefly what took you away from christianity towards the new age movement if you can just touch upon that yes um well catholicism i just remember as a young child being kicked out of catechism because i asked you many questions i had a natural curiosity about it because it didn't make sense so when i was 15 i had a very large family and my father would go to the first mass my mother would go to the last and we would go to the middle ones so we'd take all the little kids with us drop them off and go to the restaurant eat come back pick them up ask what the sermon was about and go home because we just made no sense it just you know the trilogy made no sense and i was not seeing what i was being preached anywhere i was not seeing it so i left and i started getting into books about reincarnation at a very young age and that's what led me on that path are you familiar with these names uh uh anton levay yes all right there's a there's a statement many people make the connection because now people kind of get turned off by religion so now they're not filling the void in their heart you know we all have that fit that nate and h nature that god create us and to worship him alone and not his creation so people now go we see this happening so often that now celebrities and just young people and even some muslims are sad to say they end up going just under the pretext like you know because it's not cool to be a part of a religion so they say and then they jump into something that actually ends up being another religion so i want to share with you this quote from anthony levay you probably maybe came across it where he's actually saying that the new age let me say here for himself he says new agers have freely drawn all manner of satanic materials adapting it to their own hypocritical purposes but in truth all new age labeling is again trying to play the devil's game without using his infern no name exactly what do you what are your comments on that and for those that know uh tell us a little bit about anthony levy i i don't know i've only heard the name and i know that he leads the satanic cult that's all i know i do know about the new age path and the darkness because um he's written the bible he i mean i'm sorry he's written he's the founder of the church of satan and the satan bible what they have to do exactly he's very yes he's ahead of it all i know is that allah wanted something from me so he allowed me to continue on that path but once i learned about the jinn and about shaytan then everything fell into place that was exactly what was happening these this this one woman would leave her body and allow some being to come in and she called he called himself metatron and we would call him on the phone and ask him questions he would get into ourselves and it was just the most bizarre thing now that i see it i know how allah protected me and i pray for those people on that path because it's like a jinn convention you know they're just it's like what it's like convention it's like a gym convention like a shriners convention where they ride around in the cars that's what it's like they're everywhere it's crazy wow there's also someone else who's very popular they say she's the the mother of the new age movement uh helena helena blevins his one of her some of her quotes and many people who have connected again the new age movement they don't realize that many of these satanic rituals like you're talking about they're in this movement so let's just go over a few of these here this is one of the things her pretty much praising satan yeah here's another one satan the enemy of god is in reality the highest divine spirit uh you have her saying lucifer is divine and terrestrial light the holy ghost of satan at one uh and the same one at the same time here's here's another quote from her and the reason i'm quoting this is because she is again one of the people that many uh people who follow this way of life they look to her as one of the prophets uh it is satan who is the god of our planet and the only god this is in her book in volume 2. yeah it's called because i didn't convert until i was 49 years old so i know the darkness and i know the light now yeah there's just no comparison there's just no comparison this is a professor of religious studies from baylor university commenting on this lady helena talking about how she was well his her words uh of modern recall thought and was either the originator or the popul one who popularized many of these ideas and turns which have a century later been assembled within the new age movement so he's talking about much of the stuff that we get in the new age movement comes from this lady uh helena because you know i've been out of the new age movement obviously i've been muslim for 20 years and so i don't follow it but i'm not surprised because if it was hinting at darkness in 20 years ago then it then shaitan has as you know has you know come forward quite a bit in this society so it's a very sad thing it's a very sad thing have you heard of this name aleister crowley that one i have yes i have heard of him yes yeah this is another one that uh here's one of his quotes i was not content to believe in personal devil and serve him in the ordinary sense of the world i wanted to get hold of him personally and become his chief of staff this is somebody who is very popular in this movement now this alistair crowley and he's someone that you can see it's very interesting one of his one of his quotes and i'll i'll share it with you right now it's very scary here for the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force a male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim for nearly all purpose of human sacrifice is best this is very scary because if someone whoever knows about many of these occultist groups and meetings and he's pretty much uh glorifying sacrificing you know young baby pure boys it's crazy it is crazy and i thought i went through some crazy stuff and i did for five years but um that's beyond what i if it would have been that that i went to i wouldn't have gone to it yeah but it was the pull of the sweetness of it you know to be that path is you know parallels islam in a lot of ways the one i was on and there was a sweetness about it the ritual about it that i just loved so when i became muslim i just jumped the tracks and then found that you know but there was a parallel a lot of things paralleled yeah when you mention like you you talk about meditation we obviously have salah prayer like jesus prayed moses abraham last in front of mentioned prophet muhammad you know um you know these uh connecting with the spirit the spiritual so like it seems like they catch you with some of these things but then you know crystal balls come into play fortune telling you know connecting with the gin like you just said you know it's like a gin fest yeah right and the you know the associating partners of god almighty yeah it's rampant um i meditated for four hours a day before i became muslim two in the morning and two at night and i i really um lost a lot of the the trauma that i carried as a child so all of that was you know kind of again i see it as a huge plan from allah to bring me to islam and i'm so grateful i mean who else was going to leave their home pack a bag at 40 years old 40 some and fly to egypt and the next morning meet her muslim husband yeah what is that i didn't become muslim for about six months after that but and i hit the wall lost 80 to 100 000 that energy guru i got was bilking me of my money and i was building me of my money and so i i really lost almost everything but i got islam so what would you say made the most sense in islam and for the not yet muslim audience islam simply means to acquire peace by submitting yourself just like jesus did moses abraham the last final measure from muhammad to the one and only created the heavens and earth not worshiping his creation but worshiping him alone so you say that earlier that what your parents were upon that way of life this didn't make sense many people who i've had on they struggle with the trinity and they struggle with a lot of these uh these concepts uh jesus dying for someone's sins so now you come over to islam what made sense about islam that had you end up accepting it on that new age path i always had more questions than answers that's what kept me seeking is that i would go to the next level the next level the next level because i couldn't fill that void it everything that came to me i couldn't feel that what i felt okay but i couldn't fill that void and i kept looking i mean imagine i was making you know 70 000 a year as a hairdresser i left that to find a law and so when i finally saw my husband the way he was it made perfect sense to me and then once i got cleared out enough to accept islam in that next six months then everything made sense every question i ever had in my life for anything made sense i was able to find it in the quran i was able to you know incorporate it into my life and there was just this peace i mean we have questions as in this society if you look out there we have questions about what's going on well we don't anymore i mean you know i've written three volumes of islamic history and the final volume has the minor signs of the day of judgment and a timeline about how they came about so what i'm saying is that you look you can look at the news now and say oh that was predicted that was prophesized you know and it brings a piece because you know then this world can't be all there is yeah that's amazing when you look at the prophecies we look at the signs and the quran the miracles it's just impossible that a man prophet muhammed peace and blessed be upon him would who just coincidentally is bringing the same message as jesus moses you know the message that goes with our innate nature to just worship one and only one god and be morally upright simple message but then he backs it up with all this evidence and it's just impossible now that he was on point with so many different things it's not like nostradamus guessing 99 no and all 99 are wrong and one thing it's just kind of maybe if you can take a leap you can somehow connect it but you don't have any of those things with um but that's exactly the gin right they now are given only bits and pieces because the big fireball comes so if somebody's channeling that they're only going to get bits and pieces yeah and that's what someone like nostradamus you know so these people aleister crowley you know these people that we mentioned uh levay and anton levay these people obviously like you can see uh people who are connect connecting with like uh aleister crowley he said i want to be the chief like the chief uh worker for shaytan the devil on earth and it was interesting how he died he died on they say just doped up on drugs you know miserable a miserable existence miserable life i will tell you there were a few times that the darkness got very very close to me and i didn't like it i didn't like it and um mostly allah protected me through those whole those years but i did not like the darkness the feel of it if you like that there's something inside of you that's wrong yeah i was uh someone was sharing an experience that he had someone that i talked to and he was telling me how he got invited to one of these events and it was kind of like you had to know someone who knew someone to kind of get invited to this um ritual ceremony they were gonna have so he went and it was like a group of people and then they did some kind of uh hallucinating some kind of drugs and then they were calling out like doing some kind of chanting and calling out to some kind of spirits and it was like you're saying it was just very he said it was just very dark you have to describe it it was just and our that's not our fictional nature that's what amazes me is that our fits on nature is connect to allah is to connect to the one god and and there's no confusion then yes there's just no confusion i want to just share this point for the muslim non-muslim audience when we say allah jews and christians who are also arabic speaking they use the word allah allah just meaning the god the creator of the heavens and the earth so this is uh something that you can relate to now tell me this uh when you get asked are you are you back in the states now do you live in america oh yes we've been here since well we came i brought my muslim husband back into the states on the first of september 2001 unless 10 days before the big thing happened so um yeah we were followed by the fbi and all that kind of stuff that's okay um but yes we've been back in the states for 20 years my husband is acclimated here now and doing well so when you get asked by family members or at the grocery store or just you know randomly have you ever been asked or maybe you're talking about islam and someone asked you like a question about hijab you know how do you like to answer that why are you wearing hijab when so many women are fighting for their freedom and now they they look at hijab as a symbol of oppression what do you say to that freedom for what i mean what really if you want to be free from allah that's one thing what i say to them is that for 49 years i was out there i was a hairdresser a professional singer you know these kinds of things i was just out there and i don't think i was ever really comfortable with it and then when i was told i needed to cover the more i covered the better i felt and when it was explained to me that you are a pearl in an oyster and only your husband is allowed to see what you've been showing people for 49 years now that made sense to me and that so that's what i tell people is that i'm absolutely at peace with it and the first thing i say is look i believe it's a commandment in the quran i believe that i believe we're commanded to cover for the right reasons because he knows us better than we know ourselves you know you see these women they start kind of inching it back and a little bit of hair showing and pretty soon they're putting a little makeup on pretty soon they're you know throwing the jill bob off it allah knows best allah knows best what we need and if you are tied up in this lifetime this is what you will do and if you are hooked on the hereafter this is what you would do yeah we call it the uh some call it the convertible hijab the one you just described that's right may allah god almighty help all of us to uh go ahead and you know implement and love the injunctions that are good for us actually and help ward off uh things that can harm us and if we can see that coming out of love that allah loves us and that's why he sent his guidance for our betterment tell me uh it's interesting that many people when you make the comparison when you look at you know nuns when you look at those who and christians should understand this they're actually wearing the hijab and then when you look at for instance mary the mother of jesus from any picture they have portrayed of her she's wearing what you're wearing the hijab so you're trying you're trying to imitate mary the mother of jesus when when they find that out like what do you i get people most people are just stumped well i wouldn't want to tell you what my mother said as a staunch catholic when she asked me why i wear that thing and i said i said ma the nuns cover yes and and she just she gave me a line that i don't know if it's right to say it she said well they're virgins and i went okay i'm not going to have this conversation with her anymore you know so it they don't think of us as the same i don't know why but they don't think of us as the same those they've always been revered the nuns have always been revered yeah yeah when you go i'm sorry go ahead no i'm just saying that because we're not out there enough speaking about this beautiful dean the media takes over and so when they see me they see oppression and sometimes i look at them and i say do you really do i look oppressed to you you know i'm out there i'm doing all that i need to do no yeah you're here uh in america now and nobody can force you to where you're wearing it out of your free will and your love for god for the creator a lot exactly exactly yeah when when a christian is asked say why do nuns wear this what they're wearing dressing in such a modest way in the hijab they usually say because these are the best of the best of us you know they've dedicated our life to god but now if we take that same answer and we say well these are the best and the best of our women they've dedicated their life to god why the double standards that's the thing well this is what i just let it lie because they're going to think what they want to think until they think differently yeah and then you have places like france for instance who are now pressing muslim women from getting education you know forced to possibly get arrested if they they want to have a hijab ban you know you know we're very blessed here in america we don't have that true i don't know how i would handle it i do know that i would stay covered and and i would not take that off for any government so tell us now as a muslim woman one who submitted her will to the creator of heavens and earth again i just say this always because so not a lot of people who are tuning in for the first time so they heard hear the term muslim or islam and they have these preconceived notions so i like to define the words so a muslim is again someone who just submits his or her will to god to the creator that's what it means that concept has always been there since the beginning not worshipping the creation but the creator so now that you're that you're you're a muslim uh can you can you tell us what's your connection to jesus now that was such a beautiful story you know i i only knew him as the god when i was younger and i didn't think about him for a long long long long time and it kind of broke my heart when i became muslim i realized i could love him more than the christians because he was a beautiful prophet the word of god i fell back in love with him you talk we're talking about jesus yeah we're talking about about jesus and i just um now when i read about his life i can put it into context because before i had to push him away because i had to push what they were saying about him away and um for me it was lovely i mean really i'm my my first um you know islamic history book is about the 25 prophets in the quran and in historical context and when i was writing about him oh it was just so lovely he's a really gentle he was a really gentle human being yeah many people don't know that it's an article of faith to believe and love jesus not as a god or a literal son of god but as a mighty messenger who was sent with the same message as abraham to worship one and only one god absolutely yeah so you're also an author tell us in the last minute that we have about you mentioned this book about the prophets well i i have seven books um but the last three that i did are a trilogy of because i i looked at the um history books they're teaching in islamic schools and they have nothing in them they're they're fallen nations they're you know so i started over with the big bang and i wrote all the whole timeline from adam all the way through to isa al-assam to jesus and then the second volume is from that one ce to past the ottomans in our beautiful you know golden age and then the third one is the um sykes piccolo 1924 and all the way through to the paradise so it's quite a trilogy almost 1200 pages long you know three books and um this is stuff people don't know it's muslims don't know this stuff about adam and how he came down and there's even a timeline in there i was able to put together that's that science kept proving as i went through my research so yes i i have this beautiful trilogy that that changed my life to know all of this and fall in love with all the prophets i mean dawud and suleiman they were like so beautiful so that's what i want for our children we're losing our youth and i just wanted to give them something some history to hold on to where can people pick up the books that you mentioned i have a beautiful website and and it's such an easy one it's a journey to islam.com www.adjourney2islam.com they're all on there i have a a wix store that they can order and i do hope that people um find their way to that because i don't think they'll be disappointed thank you very much thank you very much for sharing some of the highlights of your story loretta and may god almighty allah continue to bless you in your journey thank you you too eddie for all you do subhanallah thank you so much thank you ahead and thank you guys for tuning in to the dean show something that stood out at the end is we're losing our youth is so extremely important that we understand some of these modern concepts that are coming out and many of these ways of life like this whole new age philosophy and now we've connected it like many people do you know to when you uncover it the roots of it is is deeply embedded in many of these satanic rituals and whatnot because the way of truth is clear and she mentioned beautifully you know the stories of the prophets these were the men of truth these were the men who brought you the purpose of life men like abraham who was a pure monotheist jesus peace be upon him moses abraham solomon all these men came with the same message to worship the one and only created the heavens and the earth nothing is worthy of worship except the one who created you and to be morally upright and then you have the last and final messenger sent to mankind prophet muhammad peace and blessings be upon them all and then today we have the quran a living miracle testable that you can go ahead and if you're sincere and you're asking the creator to have the earth to guide you and then you go ahead and put it to the test read it you'll see like over one point eight billion people have in the world that it is indeed from the created heavens and earth thank you for tuning in we'll see you next time subscribe if you haven't already and connect with us here every week on the dean show peace be with you assalamu alaikum

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Length: 32min 22sec (1942 seconds)

Published: Fri Sep 03 2021