I am sorry, but you are wrong - Sheikh Uthman Ibn Farooq

[Music] why is it in the quran no no no i said it's in the quran yes yeah okay i suppose oh so the reference is right there uh surah 1936 if you take a break no i believe all right i was just curious uh it actually said that yeah based on the biblical just curious based on the quran itself yeah the quran so the quran is this revelation from the same lord same allah that revealed the bible to jesus the torah to moses the psalms psalms to david but we believe the bible has been corrupted so yeah i mean i can show you some references if you like to understand okay great so a man uh king james before him pope damasus others the the council of nicea and others so for example if we look at corrupted in what way um corrupted you know where where passages were taken out things were put in numbers were changed so for example wouldn't that be similar in uh when muhammad took out the uh the satanic verses from the quran there's no satanic verses and oh there isn't can you give me a reference please i can't give you a reference can you go home look it up when i did cross-reference uh online regarding okay so the issue with cross-serving yeah you said that it was corrupted sure do you want me to explain satanic versus salman rushdie's issue or should i explain this to you first first okay great so but i'll get back to that just so you can jehovah chin was eight years old when he became king and you know jehoiachin did i pronounce that right yeah okay good was eight years old when he became king do you want to read it don't make sure okay all right no problem and he reigned in jerusalem for three months okay so how old was he eight yeah okay joey was 18 years old when he became king and he reigned in jerusalem for three months so was he eight or eighteen and that's just once let's go let me show you more so this is isaiah was 22 years old when he became king and he reigned one year in jerusalem and his mother's name was asalia the granddaughter of the king of israel right right so how old was he you say he said 18. 22 here right no problem here isaiah was 42 years old when he became king and reigned one year in jerusalem and his mother name was athalia the granddaughter of umri so you see these kinds of clear numeric contradictions tell us that this bible has been corrupted sure and then the other ones over here right sure let me so but that wouldn't necessarily mean corrupted why wouldn't it be if they're clear different ages right yeah okay so here you see 42 right isaiah son mother was atalia granddaughter of umri here everything's the same except for the age yes exactly so so the age is corrupt of course it does because either he was 22 or 42 right i mean i'm not going to ask your age how old are you 27 if he tells you tomorrow he's 17 he just corrupted this conversation he made his mistake he's either 27 or 17 one of the two right so this is just this is just one example of many it's corrupted yeah it does so if there are numeric inaccuracies that means at some time those were corrupted unless you're saying to begin with it was wrong which i don't believe that i believe the bible was revealed by allah but these corruptions happen over time king james for example before him pope damasus and others who like the catholic gentleman was saying earlier this has different number of fewer books in it than the catholic bible protestants would say that's not a part of the catholic okay yeah so you understand right so here for example we find in one samuel chapter 15 verse three so let me answer seven what you're basically saying with the whole thing here sure is that the quran is pure yes excellent you're you're a great intelligent man to understand i'm intelligent you're intelligent many people stand right here and they don't get what i'm saying so you got that now let me explain let me explain the satanic verses issue right the quran has never had anything but what it has in it this idea of satanic verses that salman rushdie became famous by writing a horribly written book on is based on what's called a fabricated hadith we call it an arabic moldua malduro means that it doesn't have a chain of narrations going to the prophet peace be upon him so this was a fabrication but muslim scholars across the board why would they why would they fabricate it also there are many people who converted or seemingly converted to islam or reverted to islam but they were people who were in their hearts enemies of islam so they would try to act as their muslims and then make fabrication i mean i can tell you when recently you can look up lawrence of arabia and the stuff that he caused in the middle east for political cause right but the muslim scholars what we did is we look at the chain of narrations okay if you say the prophet said something peace be upon him who did you hear from where did they live how was their memory who else heard it so this called this science preserves the quran and hadith and all of that so no muslim in the world that you will ever meet a muslim okay i'm not talking about somebody who claims it but then he thinks he's something else now we'll believe in a quran other than this 114 chapters no catholic bible protestant book of mormon stuff in muslim shia sunni everybody has one quran 114 chapters 30 sections 30 jews right begin with fatiha and with nazis so so the so the narration about satanic verses is a fabrication no muslim scholar accepts it go ahead no i mean that makes sense good i like to make sense yeah but the muslim uh uh scholars would not accept it based on the science of well yeah but not too many people know about muslims or anybody who studies islam yeah if you're a true scholar even if you're not muslim when you study islam you study the science of hadith muslim grading yeah i think i don't know no there's a lot more than that there's six called the sitha but there are hundreds of books of hadith right yeah bazaar by haki musa musa i have probably 30 40 books of hadith in my house so yeah definitely after 9 11 is when i started researching a lot of people islam i was just curious because you know in the news religion of peace not fox news no no no no they're not honest by any means but go ahead yeah but the thing is is i wanted to know the truth because whether this is bad this is good i just want to know the truth okay if i'm going to eat something and put it in my mouth how many the the i love it this is good i want to know if it really is good excellent that's wonderful regardless you know uh and and what i found wasn't good really what did you find about uh so first of all there has to be some truth okay let's put it this way i'm listening i have a master's in psychology okay and when after 9 11 i went in with a blank mind you sure 100 i mean right after 9 11 you really had a neutral mind because it's pretty hard to believe i mean you're you're a psychology major so you know there is a subconscious belief no no i don't forget this subconscious i want to know the truth okay okay i want to know the truth it's like right now i i've been a vegan okay for eight years a vegetarian for 23 years you know no i love it yeah i love meat yeah well you know but but the thing is i researched okay and then what did you find oh are you kidding the health benefits of being a vegan is that no no i'm talking about the quran sorry yeah that's what i'm saying is the truth i learned the truth what did you learn right so sorry i wanted to know and then when i say going in with you talk about the subconscious i know i went in because i want to know the truth okay so what did you find it wasn't good what i thought what did you find i'm trying to figure it out because i'm muslim so i want to know why it's not good i don't want to eat something that doesn't taste good no no no no no no i'm saying that yeah that's what i'm talking about so when i'm basically saying you're not going to change my mind and i don't know i'm not going to change your mind why not this is there's no way i mean if you show me the facts and truths i have the quran is in front of you i mean i'm willing to accept the truth i had roommates from saudi arabia okay for five years and they left me a quran i didn't get to read it until believe it or not it said until 9 11. then i started okay what did you find in the quran well hold on so i started research but i when i research i don't just look at one thing good i try to do cross reference excellent and it's important to do cross-reference and i learned that in my college years to to make sure that excellent that i didn't get all my information from one source i visit the mosque i visit uh i talk to which monster did you go to the one in claremont and yeah that's like one in new york city when i was there nice but i wanted to learn excellent about islam as much as possible excellent and and and i wasn't too pleased about muhammad going all the way back it you know what were you not pleased about well he he he ruled by the sword no he didn't can you show me a reference well all you have to do is look at you look up uh you know what mecca and all this and mecca yeah so in mecca in mecca the prophet was was oppressed by the mushrikeen he was forced to leave his house and even when he was victorious he didn't take revenge he didn't do any kind of mass killings well of course mecca of course said he he um he aligned himself with with some uh uh a group of thieves a group of thieves i'm sorry i don't know what you what i don't know what kind of fictional stories you're reading online i can guarantee you that's a fiction because hold on let me explain i teach the life of the prophet muhammad your conversation goes to wait let me see so i listen to you okay so because like i said it's not going to change but the conversation should be based on some kind of references right right you can you can yeah can you go home and look it up and send it to me yeah okay great i would love to see where the prophet muhammad peace be upon him aligned with thieves in history in any history book but i don't think it would change your mind of course it would no oh it would i don't but but it doesn't exist that's the problem like like i wouldn't change being a christian because you found this that's sad that means you're not looking for the truth but if i if i show you something and and it's evident but it still wouldn't change your mind that means you're not looking for the truth i mean you're close-minded no no no oh lord no anybody sounds like you know i don't know you well enough maybe i get to know you better you know me because that sounds closed-minded to me and well because if you convinced me i changed my mind i i don't i don't i think you're said in your belief look i wasn't raised muslim right i chose to be a muslim i was raised nothing i mean my family was secular i mean they were from pakistan but i used to go to church i used to go to bible studies you go to catholic churches protestant all of that right horizon on genesee yeah yeah wednesday's youth group yeah yes really you too so for me when i saw the truth i changed my mind so what made you change because when i studied the bible and i'm not an expert i found things in the bible that there were contradictory that didn't sit i mean for example i'll give you here in 1 samuel chapter 15 verse 3 it says go and attack amalek and utterly destroy all that they have and do not spare them but kill both man and woman infant and nursing child ox and sheep camel and donkey that's pretty cruel yeah you agree i don't believe in a god that does that well that orders the killing of infant children and thoughts but there's got to be what's the rest of it does it lead up to something can there be any reason to kill infant children that sounds pretty i mean nothing like that in the if it leads up to quran sure take your time because it's easier to pick out things i agree with you right please read or read all you wish there's many other i mean this is just one verse i can show you more yeah it looked like it did yeah i read the bible yeah homework yeah have you read the quran there's some of it some of it yes so can you show me not today i'm saying go home look it up anything in the quran like this this horrific in the quran okay what about sure there's someone i understand it unless i was deceived in all my reasons i think you were deceived in all your research i don't think so yeah it sounds like it i don't think if you thought about the satanic verses then you have no foundation islamic research when i found that because it's a fabrication so that's what you say no no let me explain this to you again history can i can i explain it okay i'm just talking about history right and we later find out that like you said things would change and all this kind of stuff exactly yeah but but that one i really researched and that was what book did you read it in and i didn't read it any book that's the problem you didn't read in any book you just looked it up online so let me explain something we have books of history of people who were there in the time of the prophet that saw what happened and they tell the other people who are the next generation and the next generation who write it down and they check to see the authenticity in the first generation in the first generation the quran was written down in the lifetime of the prophet muhammad during his life that's not what our mind is yeah see your understanding is lacking i'm sorry i've got a video on it if you like you can watch it yeah but that's produced by the muslim no no historic documentation by scholars of islam of course i mean who else is going to specialize in this there is even a carbon dated page from surah taha in birmingham in england by non-muslims who carbon dated it to the lifetime of the prophet muhammad peace be upon him it matches a hundred percent with the quran we have today that was carbon dated by non-muslims go home look it up okay so what i'm trying to have good do i have to just go google it birmingham quran carbon dating okay so so the range puts it at the end of the life of the prophet and the beginning of the first khalifa as being in the middle so this quran has been preserved through memory through writing there is a book called of a cut if you can look it up it is the authority in oxford and yale to use it to understand quranic sciences it lists the name of companions who memorize the whole quran in the lifetime of the prophet and documents how zaid abner wrote down and again this is based on historic documentation knowing who was there what their adal was their their moral character their memory looking at each narrator documenting in every history book ever about the prophet muhammad peace be upon him documents meaning if you take the naboo if you take uh siddha abner if you take any of those that are the references even for orientalists who are not muslim document the quran was written down on sheets of paper on leather on bones during the lifetime of the prophet the first generation the first caliph right after the death of prophet he standardized the quran abu bakr usman again still in the first generation he sent out copies we still have we still have those uthman mustafa utman look it up okay so what i'm trying to tell you is if you like to research you're going to send me to places that that would back the quran i want to look at okay i'm sending you i'm sending it so this is the carbon dating done on the quran was done by non-muslims okay so would that be bipartisan enough for you yeah okay if i could find something excellent look it up yeah great so if you like you can take one with you oh i have one okay excellent excellent excellent written in so when you say you found things that were scary when your research not so much scary okay it wasn't didn't sit well with you yeah right so what i'm saying is maybe your research was lacking and no offense right right and i'd love to sit with you i have a library at home we have all the historic documentation books of hadith books of tariq there were there were people in the first generation that wrote about the prophet's life and we i can show you with even telling you who was there for example today if i asked you did abraham lincoln give a speech you would tell me he did right but do you know who documented that i mean the four scores people wrote right but who we couldn't name anybody right now right it's just because in history books we believe it but islamic research is much more in depth we can tell you who was there that saw the prophet that documented it who recorded from him how many different companions through different chains is a type of hadith called meaning 70 80 companions heard something they told 70 80 100 different people through different chains with the exact same wording let me ask you understand quickly do you understand what i'm saying though yeah yeah so this is not a a issue of interpretation it's a science let me ask you about the the portion in the bible always bothered me and that was uh when jesus said i'm going to send you a comforter okay and and the muslims say it was muhammad okay then why why would jesus do that why would he do that yeah what does it say what well in the bible it says when when he appeared to the disciples and he says uh not to worry he would send the comforter one greater than me the comforter there are people who they say it's muhammad that he said muhammad why why did god send the company why not why would jesus say it's muhammad well it was the holy spirit well i'm sorry first thing is i i i didn't profess that it was so i can't tell you why secondly that's what i've heard okay well i mean then you should ask those who say that right i didn't say that right but if you ask me why i don't question why sends pro allah sends prophets he sent abraham he sends moses he sent jesus he said muhammad this is the will of allah right i mean you do believe that abraham and moses and noah and all of them were there as well right why did god send them we don't really question why right but we do know that jesus did elude towards a comforter right that's correct and there are scholars who say this was the prophet muhammad peace be upon him you may disagree with that but i'm not really here to discuss that because i didn't make that claim well never mentioned his name okay that's right i was just curious it never mentioned i don't base i don't base my belief in the bible to begin with right because the contradictions that i find in the bible it's like a measuring stick right if you have a measuring stick and you see that it's going to be either six inches yeah you are on it look you're intelligent man i told you right so when you're measuring sticks wrong i'm not going to measure with it right when you're measuring stick is correct without contradictions without mistakes then i measure with that and the quran tells us that the prophet muhammad was sent as the last prophet and i believe in that so you believe that he was the comforter that jesus talked about i don't know that to be a fact i i don't even know if jesus said that right because as i said no not in the bible so what i'm saying is i don't even know if he said there's a comforter coming because the bible's been corrupted so i don't i don't base my belief on the bible i based it on the quran and the quran tells us that the prophet muhammad peace be upon him was the last prophet and the prophet jesus peace be upon him was also a prophet of god but not the son of god but he was born without a father so so muhammad was it true uh what am i trying to say prophet to prophet of god yes i believe that 100 as i equally believe that jesus was a true prophet of god and moses was a true prophet of god and abraham was the true prophet of god and noah was a true prophet of god and david wasn't just the prophet he wasn't the son of god he was just a prophet he was not the son of god neither was jesus neither was adam god has no sons daughters uncles roommates cousins dads stepdads all other human relations god is the creator of all humans we are all the children of god in the sense that we are beloved to god if that's what you mean but not biological children god doesn't have physical intercourse with women and impregnate them those are all concepts that are humanly concepts and this is all based on the quran not on human beings putting this together but according to the to to yes i believe the quran is the words of allah not the words of the muhammad peace be upon him not the words of the prophet allah is god yes see i i prefer the term allah because the god the term god has gender to it right because the male is a god a female is a goddess right you won't find the word god in the original writings of jesus either because it was in aramaic not in english so allah is unique it doesn't have male or female gender it shows the one worthy of worship the only one that you can worship so we don't believe in worshiping muhammad peace be upon him or jesus or moses peace be upon them we love them all we respect them we believe in them just as much as we believe in the prophet muhammad peace be upon all of them you see i say peace be upon when jesus and moses out of love and you'll never see a muslim making drawings of jesus or trying to disrespect jesus as you see some so-called christians doing to muslim religious you know figures and things but at the same time we do not believe that he was a physical son of god i mean for example in the bible you have jacob being called the son of god right right right sure so exodus you don't know the bible well no oh okay you should study it um chapter 4 22 then you shall say to pharaoh not jesus pharaoh being addressed by yahoo jacob thus says the lord israel is my son israel's jacob my firstborn we don't believe that he's a physical son right jacob even though he's called son this is a term of endearment you will also find in the same bible solomon we shall build a house for my he shall build a house for my name and i will establish the throne for his kingdom forever i will be his father and he will be my son this is for solomon right but again not a physical son right right let's go to david in the in the in the psalms of david david i will declare the decree the lord said to me you are my son today i have begotten you but again not a physical son right ephraim here am i pronouncing that correctly or well how does it spell ephraim e p h arya for i am a father to israel and ephraim is my firstborn right again not a physical son in what we understand brother term of endearment in the same way even you know being called begotten doesn't mean you're a physical son and the same way we believe jesus was in a spiritual way in a way of endearment he can be called the son of god but not in a physical way for example you go to a catholic priest you say forgive me father for i have sinned you call him father but you don't mean that he has you know with your mom right yeah he's just you just respect right or older guy could say hey son let me talk to you real quick right but he doesn't mean that i'm physically the dna test for dad so those are terms of endearment so this is the problem that people took those to be physical relationships so back to what we said earlier so this is sure fallible yes infallible infallible this is this is this is already corrupted i don't know yeah read it so i i've read the bible in and out so so you're saying that my research that i discovered about the quran it's totally wrong i mean i'm trying to say this i'm trying to say some respect for me i don't want to like i don't want to sound rude but yeah it's pretty flawed yeah and how can that be because you didn't go to original historic research you just googled stuff right you didn't go to actual books right you didn't you didn't go to academics you didn't know the science of to know authentic from week narration this is what i did is i went back and forth to uh muslim websites what website i have no idea so that's the problem right so if i just go and google you're telling me to off the top of my head right but what i'm saying is if i just go online and say christian website i might get some websites that are mormon websites or joe witness websites or catholic no no if it did that then i just changed how would you know right well i mean how do you know what islamic website's a good website we have many muslims that are ignorant but then they would go to uh scholar you know that religion so that's the issue that's why i'm saying it's flawed is because it is flawed because you believed in the satanic verses earlier you said it was true right oh you don't believe no okay no no you're twisting my words okay i'm sorry maybe i misunderstood you you're saying i believe in the satanic verses i don't believe in that i said that's what i read okay so what you read was wrong excellent how is it possible because the the narration narration has fabricated my bachelor's degree sure everything was wrong in my sociology because you weren't studying science islam right we're talking about islam no but but the thing is how is it possible that this could be infallible right and this is to be fallible and everything i learned about how is that possible you're asking because it's based on what you're telling me but what i saw my own two eyes and understood on the internet i have this guy here okay so did you find something in here that no i read that one and i read the thing about uh well you don't have it here okay so uh it's on the pamphlet so so when you were doing your bachelor's you're doing your master's you went to an academic university right right and you studied under actual professors right right and then they did a lot and where did you get your bachelor's just out of curiosity that one and i was stationed in the military in south dakota south the university of south dakota no actually black hill state black hill state college got it in san diego state and san diego state okay great where did you get your islamic credentials i don't have any questions okay so to see your credentials in the bible actually so you see the difference right when you did your bachelor's in your master's you went to a university you sat with professors you presented your dissertation you know what you're saying no i didn't present you you didn't defend your thesis yeah i did my thesis but he he he said it was okay that was okay that's nice i had to defend mine but okay a nice unless you got lucky no i didn't get san diego state no no no no what no i want to know because i have two masters and each one of them i wrote a thesis and i had to defend it i didn't have to defend it because what i did was okay he looked at it he read it mocked up a little things here and there nice and uh accepted my thing okay but that research was done under professors right yes but your research into islam was not done with any professors right you just you just looked at websites no no but that doesn't mean it's wrong it does not mean it's wrong so let me explain what you're saying the third time by looking up stuff and researching going to mosques finding out things talking to people that it's wrong okay can i answer enough impossible okay let me answer what i'm saying is just looking at websites not knowing who runs that website right not knowing if that is really an academic website checked by professors and cross-referencing that with other websites that you also don't know who they are what their names are which scholar runs can i finish now i listen to you right so this is not a accredited method of research this is just googling stuff and because can i finish can because if i go and put in christian research i'm just googling you are just googling i'm sorry okay so so can i which university did you go to to look up islam but i don't have to go to a university to understand the bible okay so so when you when you understand the bible did you do any research like historic research yeah i did that too okay so what books did you study how did you do that research did you just look up websites or no what you do is get a concordance okay actually look up the concordance and my grandson me too but what i'm saying is when you study something historic right like the issue of the satanic verses or the thieves that you mentioned which is again not found in any history book then it's not true it's in the history can i ask you which book you'll have to look it up for yourself i i i have studied the life of the prophet peace be upon him over can i finish i teach it i have taught a series that lasted almost three years two years right about the life information let me know i studied no not the quran only i have at my house in my personal library books of tariq like tabari like the habit okay if you can bring me a historic reference i'd love to read it i can if you want to come to my house excellent please so so let me explain how i research i am going to look at it i just told you i'm going to look at it i'm on tape that's infallible it's possible because the words of allah allah is perfect and his words are perfect read it and find me a mistake why don't you take the challenge take the quran read it find me a mistake i mean google it look up all the stuff you want on the internet no there's this a lot it's not find me it's infallible it is the kalam of allah it is the word of allah in perfection that's what i believe and i will stand by that and if you show me a mistake i will see this i'll make your statement it's on tape you show me a clear mistake not a you know something that you're going to edit here and there but in the book i will leave islam that's open-mindedness and if you can't find one how about you become a muslim no no see who's who's being closed-minded now all right being close-minded come on open-mindedness come on i'm trying to have this no you don't know me i don't i want to get to know you let's have coffee or something but i'm a very open-minded person you play soccer when i read no i'm more of a long-distance cyclist i want to get into it you want to cycle together sometime we can talk i mean i'm out of shape right now but yeah i'm up for it so what i'm saying is go home read the quran i'm here every sunday if not you can take my number i can give you the address of the mosque come by talk to us so what you're saying is when i went in with a blank mind and looking up the quran and i did i went in i wanted to know the truth that's true i like just like i said the difference between sugar and stevia which is better stevia is better than the sugar what do you think stevia 100 really i got to try it yeah what about raw sugar no no all right what i'm just saying is i'm listening which is the best that's all and so what i did is i went and i want to know the truth because the news i don't care if it's fox or whatever bunch of lies yeah yeah they come up and they say especially and i said okay this is it i gotta find out i'm with you on that one and so i started researching six months and um i i started talking to a lot of people uh and i was honest you know they said to me i went to a friend who uh used to sell cars on uh north park somewhere gotcha uh banks auto these okay but he asked me he said miguel after all this research about the koran what do you think and i said i was honest with them but i said i don't like what i read i don't know what did you not like i have the quran in front of me can you show me i didn't like oh come on you're kidding i mean yeah i'm not i'm not show me i i couldn't i couldn't remember where i went to go and take it and mark it up like i've marked up my bible i did i have it written up actually can you can you bring it to me so i can see what you're doing okay look so what i'm saying is the mistake in your research and i'm saying this with love and respect i'm not trying to disrespect you i'm just trying to explain is is instead of going to academics or going to an islamic university or going to historic sources or actual books that have what's called like you don't even know these terms so how will you be able to research so you need to come learn like if you like to learn then i can perhaps you're not independent again i'm not saying listen to me i'm telling you the rules of research okay if i just google stuff i can find all kinds of fake news fake articles about islam about christianity and and if i don't know the websites even if i'm cross-referencing i don't reference the same thing which ones mention thieves like i'd like to see a historic book just for you i'm going to look that up i appreciate it so what i'm telling you is the way you research is you actually go to books historic books that are accepted across the board across the world but you're never going to get agreements between these two that's not the point the point is the point is that your research took you to things that were non-existent about the thieves and about the yeah so can you show me where that is that's a fact i will find it that's a pretty strong statement you said it's a fact without knowing a single historical reference you get it give me your number something okay i promise i will get it for you i'm here i'll give you my number do you wanna my name is but you know what i know you're not going to change i'm not going to change i just told you earlier if you prove it but i do know sure let me put my number for you funny picture my grandson's a wise guy he thinks it's funny i think it's funny um what are you gonna say you know when i researched something i really feel a hundred percent behind it usman you yes i'm in all right well you pick your name yeah so if you go to contacts i think i'll probably be the only you you have okay uh you great there it is well let me ask you if i find that information you probably say it's not true i don't know how do we find a tree so so this is like the sixth time i'm explaining this again okay so it's not about my opinion or your opinion right we have a science that is a credit across the board oxford yale everybody uses it's called when you have a narration you look at the chain of narrators each chain member a person is called is checked and then there's authentic narrations there are fabrications that are weak so we will reference actual historic books and see if it's authentic if it's authentic we accept it these historic books would be uh you mentioned the name but these are books based on islam no these are historic books based on history and history yes and where can i find these books uh any library you can't find it online oh you can find them online okay but but they're they're big books in arabic yeah i mean those who wrote the history originally were all because i mean if you want to learn about romans you got to learn latin if you want to learn about samurai you got to learn japanese so so i i'm not arab but i learned arabic language to research yeah but you can go to tabari there's there is there is ibn's heart from the earlier sources so you can go to any of those and reference them and see and then there are books of where they where they check the narrators so it's not about your opinion in my opinion it's about historic facts no no i agree i agree excellent yeah right yeah my opinion wouldn't mean my opinion means nothing to you yeah yeah it's it's um but this is a method of research that's an accepted method across the world so if you want to research islam you have to utilize those tools if i want to know about whether the earth is round or flat and i just start googling between sites some sites going to say it's flat sometimes it's going to say round i don't know who wrote one could be a joke one could be nasa right so if i don't know the difference between nasa and some yo-yo that made a website that's down the street how would my research really pan out and that's what i'm saying when you look up islamic sites many of those sites aren't run by muslims they're made and i know many that were made to corrupt as people of hate but not yeah you're an intelligent man you're honest so what i'm saying is you find those references me and you can go to san diego state library that's where you got your degree and we can pull up the books and we can look them up and we can read it or you can come to my own library or you can go to your library or anywhere else you like and we can see if it pans out and and i believe that if you open your mind and your heart you will end up as a muslim because you will see the infallible word of allah to be what it is right if you don't open your mind your heart i can't do anything i can't force it on anybody the islam doesn't allow us to force conversions no i know but i think we can only open the door you got to walk through it yourself brother i think i really believe in what i when i look things up right i really believe 100 right but you just mentioned how some websites that could be yeah but i'm not going to believe it if it doesn't coincide with other things excellent excellent so what i'm saying is right but let's research actual books right but i still believe that you don't have to go i know a lot about health and i never went to school for health and nutrition how did you learn a lot more you just googled it i read books you read books yeah okay but but in islam you didn't read any books right i have a couple of books what books do you have i don't know i'll bring okay yeah i'd love to see who wrote them what it's about whether it's an original book or recently an opinion basically i've got one that's really interesting and uh but what's it called uh i'm sorry my mind is a little screwed up because bring it bring it next sunday no problem that's my daughter my granddaughter on that on the highway last year so oh i'm i'm sorry about that give let me give you a hug now man what can i say yo man so hopefully i'm not thinking i feel i feel your pain i'll tell you what why don't you go home look stuff up come by the mosque we'll have some tea we'll hang out we'll look at books uh i'm i'm off of 70th yeah in la mesa but if you like to oh okay excellent then uh it's called i'll put it i'll give you the address if you like you want to unlock it or i want to try to crack your password all right so um i don't know much about these kids yeah i don't know much about is there good or not i don't know classic music yeah wow i don't even see them yeah all right so this is our mosque's uh youtube channel you can watch those videos here and okay so this is uh so so my understanding from what you're saying then and and i and i find it so hard to believe to myself okay that i would i would find things and believe things that are not true i'm sorry i find it well so here's the address of the mosque okay i'm trying to figure out where that is saranac is off the 70th of the 8th so you make a left-hand seven you're right so if you're going east you exit uh let's say on el cajon going east you'll take a left on i think 72nd or you can take it on 70th 7th okay yeah and then you'll take a right on saranac and you go all the way down yeah yeah thursdays we have food uh come by break some bread it's all free and so what would you say i've got some jewish friends so they're wrong too wrong in what in believing that the quran is not fallible oh if they believe the quran is fallible meaning they believe it's infallible then they're correct infallible that is that that is not true if they believe the quran is not true they're wrong yes it doesn't matter if they're jewish atheists christian buddhists whatever they think what you're saying hard to believe that what i researched whether it's google or not i think we've been through this loop a few times now i'm just trying to i just can't believe that yeah well why don't you look up those references and then i'll show you in the books and then i think it'll become clear to you there was one i don't know his name but if you know your scholar of islam that i found was a righteous man he was a um he was a ruler see if i'm doing this right uh when they attacked israel no jerusalem at the time he allowed the women and the children to come out salahuddin saladin he's a historic figure yeah yeah well known and i was kind of surprised and the crusaders raped and massacred people so uh historically yeah you can look that up yeah no i i know yeah you know but i think spanish inquisition not exactly good either yeah but but the point is that's not theology yeah yeah exactly we're just saying we're picking out a lot of different things that are you know that we're not agreeing on vote what are we not agreeing on well you just said that uh when muhammad joined the the the band there was no such incident so i can't i mean if you can show me i'd love to see it okay but okay i'll definitely so let's end this until you bring those references yeah but i know it's not going to change your mind it will if it's real but if it's fake or if it's fabricated then probably not right it's hard for me to believe that i could be wrong and something like that you know i hate to say it you could be wrong bro it happens to the best of us i don't think so you don't think so you're never wrong no no oh yeah yeah then why is it hard for you to believe you could be wrong i crushed reference and did something excellent can you mention a single book that you cross reference oh my god you're talking a guy who's read so many things you read a lot that's good so why don't you look those up and come back to me i'm not trying to put you in the spotlight no no you know you're not gonna put me in the spot all right great because i i'll look it up and i'll find it and um go on another one take it cool thank you nice talking to you talk all right look for you have my number osman osman thank you thank you have a good day you

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