Mugetsu Ichigo Is WAY Stronger Than You Think.

if there's one thing mr kubo is good at it's creating intricate detailed genuinely unique designs for his characters their transformations and the abilities they use although i believe his writing is underrated in various ways and his greatest flaw if you can even call it a flaw is that he either makes his storytelling way too vague for the audience and up to the individual reader's interpretation or he misuses some of the coolest characters in the series which have so much potential to be more than they were shown to be it is however truly undeniable how talented he is at creating special looking characters that are genuinely pleasing to the human eye and with that being said today's video will be dedicated to two of the coolest designs he ever created donggae ichigo and the final gets a gatenjo in today's video i'm going to explain and clarify a lot to do with these forms so if you're this far through the video please give the video a thumbs up as it does help the video's ability to grow and also subscribe if you're new to my channel i upload and will be uploading a lot more bleach content in the future so if you support me i will continue to support bleach by making plenty of content in the future we're also close to 150 000 subscribers so it would mean a lot if you did subscribe i believe it goes without saying that these two forms of ichigo are easily the most contentious but also the most interesting in the series ichigo's power feels different than before he doesn't feel like a soul reaper a hollow or a human he feels like an anomaly that was placed into bleach from a different series it almost has a super saiyan 3 feel to it or even a mastered ultra instinct level of aura as ichigo has done this weird type of training that only happened due to pure coincidence that eisen decided to destroy the cleaner and he also appears in a stage that is beyond bankai with his zanpak fused to his arm this is unironically hyperbolic time chamber ichigo with his long emo looking 2000s anime hair as if he came straight out of a bring me the horizon recording session before coming to fight eisen his edgy expression on his face an improved physique and his power that can't even be sensed by the villain this is stoicism incarnate like these two forms on the screen it's almost like heaven and earth and how different they feel in strength when you actually look at them and it's insane because although this ichigo is being nerfed by his inner conflict over his previous battles with the espada and genuine fear over eisen's silver surfer mode he is still able to sense eisen's power whereas ishin urahara and yoruichi cannot isheen even states only those in the same realm of power as eisen's current level would be able to sense him and gene makes an interesting offhand comment about his current form being quote incomplete even captain eisen would be disappointed in you right now and you sensed it right meaning he was close to becoming a transcendent being even while in that bangkai form which had zenkai bruce from all of his battles with the espada literally the only times eisen can be sensed are when he lowers his spiritual pressure to play with his food when he is chasing ichigo's friends around katakura town and when ichigo appears in his dongai form which explains why tatsuki can sense him this is really a big deal as ishin's statement was made about a form of eisen that is two transformations weaker than the one dongai ichigo faces off against when he appears it should also be noted that eisen only took damage in this battle here because he was fighting while not on guard he was enjoying mocking them and testing out his new powers when he did decide to flex his new power however he literally one shot every single one of them from deus ex machina to arsepole to kubo quote unquote writing himself into a corner with eisen these forms are both confusing and random plus very odd as they only appear for such a short period of time but it gives you a degree of uncertainty that makes you go yo i actually wonder how this form of ichigo would do against the higher tiers in the war arc or hey do you reckon donggae ichigo could solo marineford by himself because it just feels that powerful when shown to us readers and watchers especially with the way it dominates the villain who was already in his base form too hard to deal with let alone the multiple transcendent forms he went into with weird measures 100 year long plans and manipulating the hogyoku an object which has immeasurable power and does not obey the laws of physics to reach this stage and then you consider all those facts and how much trouble eisen went through just to get to this stage considering he was a guy that was already insanely strong right and each year just surpasses all of it which gives us that overpowered feeling i mentioned and then on top of all of that he can transform into another form above that which makes the dongai form and the villain look even less imposing let's begin eisen states ichigo is a dimensional tier above him making him 5th dimensional i believe the best way to start this video is to address the most common misconception i see when mugetsu is brought up which is the controversial statement made by eisen during their fight all eisen is stating during his inner monologue is that ichigo is so far above him in power that he believes that's a good way to explain what he is viewing before his very eyes now you could definitely argue author intent here as mr kubo did get eisen to make this statement and there's a lot of emphasis on it however we do see that eisen ends up reaching another level of power right here but he is sealed before he can actually utilize this power and he claims this newfound power will eventually surpass ichigo what you see in the war is the level of power eisen would have hypothetically reached now whether or not it is stronger than mugetsu was another conversation entirely and although he didn't transform into some weird alien looking form again his body passively reached that level mentioned while he is in the mooken ichigo in his dongai form was partially fused with his zampokto like eisen then he completely fused with it in his mugetsu form just like how eisen did at the end of the battle and then appeared in the war completely fused with his zombuc toe this isn't me making a claim that mugetsu and wore eisen are comparable in any facet because their ways of reaching complete fusion was achieved via different methods and there's a lot of contradicting statements in the manga from both sides of the argument i believe eisen is so shocked in this moment because he went from being completely infatuated with his newfound level of power which surpassed hollow and sorry but and he believed not a single person in the solar society was his equal now to being completely overwhelmed by ichigo's power i mean eisenhad contingency plans set up for yamamoto as he was aware of the threat that he would be in bangkai he purposely left kenpachi in hueco mundo and the second he reaches his first two forms of the hokyoku he has absolutely zero fear in anyone being able to match him to him he was already in an entirely different league above the shinigami so to see someone else beyond his own power was dumbfounding especially when just earlier that same day he had seen ichigo in a much weaker state this is why he was so confused if ichigo truly were an entire dimensional tear above eisen why was it so easy for isaac to continuously close that gap in power with the hogiaku if he truly were a dimensional tear above him as he even describes he wouldn't even be able to react or comprehend ichigo's existence a being that is a complete dimensional tear above you would be almost impossible to even interact with we also seen that even when eisen transformed mid-battle against dongai ichigo the most that he could do was burn his arm and you could even make consistent arguments that the only reason this happened was because ichigo was not taking him seriously and this is shown to us when he slaps away the floating white rings while eisen is holding him by the throat now if we do for a second say that this statement is factually correct as kubo did make eisen say this in the manga it would be consistent with the statement from the data book unmasked which thanks to seth the programmer was translated saying the following the ultimate technique in which the user becomes zongetsu although it possesses a power that far exceeds everything its cost is that the user loses their spiritual power this is from the official bleach data book unmasked this would also be consistent with the scaling between isheen eisen and ichigo when he's in his dongai form as ishii makes a very specific comment that when he swings at eyes and it feels like he isn't even there it also aligns perfectly with eisen being so strong that he can one shot a being that doesn't operate via the laws of physics or by that of spiritual pressure but actually the idea of reason this means eisen is at the level where he doesn't need to just defeat someone physically or with raw spiritual pressure he can wipe them from existence like ichibe's ability that allows him to control the concept of the name and the power associated with that name this would also consistently line up with statements made about the sokyoku which is stated to be able to overwhelm everything in existence along with various other dimension-destroying feats from much weaker characters than these two when it comes to bleach power scaling at this stage in 2020 saying things like this should pretty much be the norm but i feel like i have to hold back when i do talk about this stuff even though there is a massive preponderance of evidence that proves that characters of this level and this caliber in general are getting to some insane feats that far surpasses just being quick and being able to hit really hard to close this part of the video it's either a truly dimensional tearing in mugetsu is an absolute monster of the character alongside all of the supporting evidence that proves such or b eisen is using over-exaggerated pseudoscience language to describe the strength of someone he just can't fathom remember that time when udu sensed ukiyora's second release spiritual pressure and he claimed that it was alien-like i won't be making any objective claims here but i guess try to be logical about the eyes and statement and think for yourselves what seems more realistic with the evidence i've provided i'm going to keep this part relatively short and sweet because so many people blow me away when they ask me this but donggae ichigo absolutely destroys vasto lode ichigo like i shouldn't even really have to say that but you would be surprised as to how many people ask me this or actually suggest this match up in my comment section on bleach related videos and the countless times that the chat has brought it up on my twitch streams where i talk about bleach and power scaling let me just run through a few things to explain this in a very simplistic way the hollow inside of ichigo is the manifestation of his shinigami powers as when ichigo was born white who had fused with masaki was then birthed into ichio when he was born thus when the shinigami powers given to him by rukia were taken away his asuchi ended up becoming the hollow inside of him or in another sense it was always going to be this way as you can argue ichigo's father being a shinigami means by default he would eventually learn how to become one too old man zongetsu also tells ichigo that he always had the ability to become a shinigami though the shinigami powers laid dormant until biakia removed ruki's shinigami powers from him normally shirigami have their own unique spirits inside of them and they represent their shinigami powers but ichigo's case is special as he was born with a hollow inside of him before he activated his dormant shinigami powers and because the hollow inside of ichigo was already made up of a shinigami soul he appeared as his asuchi it's very weird but it does make sense if we were to say hypothetically take a look inside of shinji's inner world he would have a zanpotto spirit and a hollow inside of him because he was hollified after he was already a full-fledged shinigami whereas with ichigo his situation was reversed anywho i'm bringing this up because when ichigo speaks to zangetsu who we later find out isn't actually his asuchi and is the physical representation of his quincy powers and this is why he appears as you habakk in his inner world well this man known as zongetsu actually rips white out of ichigo and makes him appear not just as a holo but as the complete full shihaku show form of him then what happens is they fuse together into a hybrid of the two it's basically the fusion dance and with three straight months of training added on top of it to make it even stronger when ichigo fights ukiyora in his vasto lorde form he is being completely controlled by white even the fake youhabbach says there were times where he was unable to restrict white and white was helping ichigo to win his battles when he was struggling mr kubo even draws a sketch at the end of the transformation chapter symbolizing that white has not only taken control as the horse when the king has fallen but not even his shinigami badge can contain this strength this actually explains why bankai ichigo is so strong when he appears in karakora town and can actually sense eisen whereas many individuals who were previously much stronger than ichigo actually couldn't at that moment in time he isn't being restricted this is unironically a pretty impressive feat for first form yami when you really think about what's going on and look granted he did fight ichigo with only half of a shihaka show one in fact it was actually less than half of a shihaka show him still being able to compete with this ichigo with half of a shu hakusho on and also the mask being notably heavier than usual it's still pretty good for yami because it makes his first form look good but it also isn't inconsistent because you would think so does that make biakia and kenpachi also transcended at this stage like that sounds a bit weird right but when you think about it first form yami kenpachi and biaki are right they all scale directly to half shu haku show ichigo with a new mask that's amped by the badge not being in place and all of his zenkai bruce in the previous battle right and then you have second release yami who would then get a massive increase of anywhere from 10 plus times right so it's pretty consistent but it's also like really impressive for characters like yami kampachi and biakir to all be around that ballpark of power and it does explain why eisen did purposely leave kampachi in huego mundo and all of the captains that are actually in huiko mundo and in katakura town they actually have the confidence that ichigo will be able to defeat eisen some might say this is only because he isn't under the influence of kyoko soyugetsu but when it comes to power unohan is genuinely shocked at how strong he actually is when they're running through the garganta if you have doubt surrounding the legitimacy of these sketches at the end of the manga chapters mr kubo uses them quite a lot to drop hints to the audience he uses them to show a lot of symbolism in the series and he even uses them to tell the story as he actually drew a sketch of lolly being saved from falling to her death by udyu firing an arrow into her clothing which later on ends up being shown in the anime imagine you take this full shihaku show ichigo and white and you fuse him together with his quincy powers now at this stage the fake you have yet to show anything crazy when it comes to power but even an elephant versus an elephant with an ant on its back is still stronger than the aforementioned elephant to further explain what's going on here ichigo trains with these two for three months inside of his inner world not only is this a really cool stamina feat as ichigo is taking damage in real time during the meditation and training but ishin also has to hold the dongai open for that entire time span ishin actually confirms in the manga page on screen that this place operates rather differently than the outside world time is 2 000 times denser inside the dongai in other words if you trained in here for two thousand hours only an hour would pass on the outside the seoul society has no way of containing kotozu but there is a way to stop the cordial this is called kaikyo kotei also known as boundary fixation in english it usually takes several dozen low-level soul reapers pouring in their spirit energy by means of a special technique to hold coryu in place but i could do all that by myself i'll hold coryu until i run out of spirit energy i think i can do it for about two thousand hours that's a little less than three months during this training they are not only slowly becoming one in their powers but they are getting insanely stronger in such a short period of time the vasto lorde and ukiyora could be sensed and felt but donggae ichigo couldn't at all not even by eisen's hogyoku monster form if ichigo were to hypothetically transform into his vaso lotte form here after the training without transforming into his aged dongai form rather than here the vasto lode form would be stronger than when it fought ukiyora you see eisen was actually anticipating ichigo to awaken his vasto lode powers or even control them and was not only looking forward to fighting this form but he was hoping that ichigo would just in general reach a new level of power that would combat him this makes sense as to why he gave ukiora a second release form and had ukiora and grimjal help bring out his powers in battle which he references to ichigo eisen knew the strength of the previous wyatt from everything but the rain and that it wasn't actually strong enough at the time but he expected the evolved version to be strong enough to contest him there was even a plan made by eisen to kill ichigo's friends then hang their bodies outside of karakura town for him to find them he wanted to torture ichigo into becoming stronger this is how badly he wanted to fight ichigo in a stronger state it's kind of odd when you actually think about it because while eisen is on his death wish mission to make the oaken then destroy the zero division and the soul king the entire time he is hoping for ichigo to ascend and be a threat to him which gene even talks about just like the yami feat i briefly mentioned earlier this genuinely makes ukiyora's second release form very impressive if you believe eisen was fully aware that he actually had the form as this means eisen gave it to him purposely in advance to help develop and bring out ichigo's vasto lorde form when he leaves with geen and tosun to go to karakura town he purposely leaves waco mundo orohime and ichigo all part of ukira's responsibility and he trapped kenpachi in huikomondo with yami who was the secret zero all along at this stage in time there's way too much supporting evidence and narrative consistency to doubt ukiyora and yami were the two strongest fighter anywho eisen who in base is stated stronger than all of the espada by gain then goes on to evolve with the hogiroku four different times and then a fifth which we don't actually end up seeing it's very arguable to say that eisen would absolutely destroy the vasto lotte form which fought ukiyora in any of his harigiroku forms yet we get to see what donggae ichigo does to a much stronger eisen once again he couldn't even sense donggae ichigo even before he went into his mugetsu form to further back the stuff that i've said eisen made contingency plans for kenpachi yamamoto and ichigo but nobody else he was also confident enough to fight everyone after he transformed which includes kenpachi yamamoto and ichigo in fact to go further with this he even makes statements about yamamoto being the only person in his way in his base form before reaching these hogyoku stages and he completely ignores unohana who is literally meters if not kilometers away from him saying this eisen actually left kenpachi in waco mundo to give him time to reach immortality so that he would be able to deal with kempachi later and thus making sense as to why he left the number zero espada in waco mundo rather than having yami and ukira come with him once again i don't want to talk in a very condescending tone but mr kubrow did show us that rikiora had a secret release form which none of the other asparta have and then we find out that yami is the secret number zero all along he didn't just do this for the sake of wasting time drawing on paper like it's there for a reason these two are the strongest objectively and not only do you have ukiyora who is his most trusted as sparta and he sends him on more missions than anybody else which is also followed alongside the statements made where yami only follows uh because he actually respects him out of all of the espada it is not only once again very consistent with the scaling but it makes sense as to why eisen purposely left him in waco mundo they had a further job to do the manifestation of juha back even makes an interesting comment towards ichigo about him not being able to correctly holify which means use this vasto lorde form at will which if you were a person who was reading bleach as it comes out weekly you'd probably think oh this is the moment where he's going to be able to take full advantage of this form and then he can fight with it right i mean we've just seen it against ukiyora it's stated to be really strong it's obviously very impressive right in every facet and then later on we see that he ends up using a form like this against uh bach and the war arc right it would make sense at the time but zongetsu doesn't teach him this instead they fuse together and become something stronger which by fighting this fusion form over and over for three straight months slowly becoming one with his sword his asuchi his quincy powers and the hollow powers inside of him all of this training in the three straight months he spent inside of his head helps him attain his dongai form and learn the mugetsu once again to end off this part of the video donggae ichigo is insanely stronger than vasto lode ichigo let alone mugetsu which is in a completely different league of its own now some may say that that was unnecessary to talk about but i think it's cool because i can put the nail in the coffin in that conversation and also bring up some new scaling around the characters at that part in the story so some people might be wondering is this ichigo stronger than the ichigo at the end of the series or full bring bangkai ichigo well although i'm not going to talk about the end of series ichigo much because that will be saved for naruto vs ichigo with seth the programmer i will just say this you'll find out the definitive answer when we make that video and there are a lot of statements made by characters like you have bach side characters and statements from novel slash video games that need to be explained further and to be frank seth and i are actually coming up with completely new scaling for our video plus i obviously don't want to spoil that video regardless of whether or not he is or isn't stronger as for the full bring bangkai ichigo that fought ginger and quilgay it is established that the majority of captains have trained since the time skip biakia and renji have become much stronger and so have many others but characters like una hana and yamamoto have not only stagnated but it's confirmed their strength hasn't changed in fact yuhabak believes yamamoto is weaker than he should be in their confrontation as he purposely refused to get his arm healed but even with that being said he believes he is the only quincy who can control his bonkai's power even in his nerf state and without using his real quincy powers as his eyes are technically still closed up until his fight with ichibe and at that point he still hasn't even fused with the mimi hagi yet anywho having only one arm is extremely important because this could mean yamamoto is two times weaker than before and kenpachi using two hands closed the gap between him and noyatora who went into his resurrection tosun confirms hallification is comparable to bankai in fact he's more confident in hullification than using his bankai against komomora so i don't doubt noyatora is in fact getting an increase of power by around 10 times as this is consistent with the multipliers of seros and also grimjar states when he gets his arm back that his power has returned just like how yami was actually going to be kicked from the espada for only having one arm like grimjar it's a much bigger deal than people realize there are countless examples of one arm being something kubo places an emphasis on throughout bleach showing me he has a true appreciation for the art of sword fighting anyway i mentioned all of this because mugetsu was stated to be the strongest thing in the bleach law during the eisen versus ichigo battle which is fascinating because this data book statement is made while characters like una hana yamamoto and the zero division are all a part of the story in fact eisen in his butterfly form actually thinks he is powerful enough to take them down then battle ichigo he purposely wants ichigo to attain higher power as ichigo's potential seems to impress eisen more than the thought of the zero division ichigo's potential is even hyped up by urahara when talking to yaduichi stating that his potential is greater than his own this means ichigo is above one arm yamamoto from the war arc and also above full ring bongkai ichigo who while damaged was able to surprise you habakkuk and damage him yuhabak even makes a claim about it not being wise to fight him while injured in this form implying if he wasn't injured he could tussle with that nerfed form of yuhabark once again let me be very clear that form of uh bach is nowhere near full power but ichigo can still damage him and uh back specifically states he would be better off finding him uninjured you can see a very similar expression on the faces of the quincy's and the captains when ichigo appears in this form in the soul of society he even shocks you habakkuk when he appears that's how strong he is in this form even while injured therefore with the data book statement i mentioned earlier mugetsu is unarguably above full ring bankai ichigo as that form of ichigo is weaker than not just two armed yamamoto but one armed yamamoto which means that mugetsu ichigo could unironically defeat this nerfed yuhabak and yamamoto in bangkok once again to be very clear this is a nerfed yohabak that won does not have his quincy powers two does not have the mimi hagi amp and 3 does not have his almighty ability it's also confirmed word for word in other pages of the bleach data books and other source material multiple times just how strong eisen and ichigo have become but more so specifically eisen which helps scale ichigo as obviously ichigo is much stronger than this eisen if yamamoto's power has not changed during the time skip from the karakura town battle between him and eisen to the battle that he has with yuhaba to the point where youhabak believes that he is weaker than he should be and eisen believes that not just in his monster form or his butterfly form right but he believes in the previous forms before that that he had already surpassed every chinigami which would naturally include yamamoto as he actually states that base to base he's unsure that he would win against yamamoto but he's extremely confident once he goes through his hogoku transformations you could say for the sake of the argument when eisen makes that claim that he's unsure of the outcome that this also includes what his thoughts would be in the future about how strong he would be with the hogiro crew but there's no way to prove that he would have known how strong he would actually become other than the fact that he's talking about what's happening right now like he believes the two versions of them would most likely it could go either way right so that's already an interesting claim but when he does actually get the hokyoku powers which continuously surprise him once again he has complete confidence that he has surpassed every shinigami which helps a lot with this scaling because if donggae ichigo is above the final form of eisen which is the monster one which is beyond any of the statements that he made where he says that he has surpassed shinigami and hollows right you have donggae ichigo who scales above monster eisen who scales above yamamoto who yamamoto's strength hasn't increased according to yuhabak which puts donggai ichigo in the position where if he was to battle yoohabak and the war arc they're having a very back and forth pitch battle once again this is the nerfed you have mark i'm talking about and then he has mugetsu on top of that it's not crazy to say that mugetsu ichigo would have defeated the yuhabak that first appears in the war now as for the wording in the thumbnail which i'm sure a lot of you are curious about prime soul king is a whole different animal so i'm not going to say that mu gets who stacks up to him he might be in the same ballpark of power when it comes to these kind of characters but the data book statement about mugetsu being the strongest attack in the bleach law is made while the soul king exists as a quadriplegic so although mugetsu and dungai right we already have dongai scaling above the first shuhabath that appears then you have mugetsu which confidently destroys that yuhabak it's not that far-fetched to say that even without a time skip hypothetical power-up with this data book statement and how much stronger mugetsu is compared to any form of them previously like the dongai form yamamoto at full power and all of eisen transformations mugetsu ichigo should pretty easily beat the zero division and also the soul king that actually exists at that current point in time once again prime soul king is a different story just like prime muhabark with all of his power ups and all of the other things that he gets later but that seems to be where he stacks up to state this once more eisen literally created wonder weiss with the intent of stealing yamamoto's unpacked toe so he wouldn't have to fight someone he conceded would most likely beat him and then when he reaches transcendence in a form much weaker than monster eisen he claims he has surpassed shinigami and hollows as i talked about earlier he even stops fighting in character as there is no need for him to be on guard anymore he is just that powerful and no bringing up gains surprise attack is a null point as when eisen actually tries he one shots him just like he did to urohara yawichi and sheen and also gain hit him off guard made his body explode and even without the hare gyaku he still powered up reformed and came back stronger too so it's like even while off guard you can't do anything to this dude also to clarify there is a silhouette of genjo shown when yohabak talks about ichigo gaining his powers back but what yuhabak is saying is the ichigo in front of him has regained the immense powers he had against eisen and the genji part is saying his powers he lost in general it would be absolutely written for you habakkuk to imply those shinigami powers were of that level as he swiftly dealt with ichigo when he actually decided to use his power and before his powers returned the almighty the mimi argue was fused with him etc yet the powers that he has when he fights full powered yuhabak actually impress him to end this point of the video mugetsu ichigo is a high tier threat even up until the end of the war arc as even when eisen comes back urahara is kind of unsure but does imply eisen has most likely become stronger than the power he had against ichigo does that mean that he has surpassed him as even monster eisen didn't surpass donggai let alone mugetsu where eisen has the inner monologue stating that this dude's level of power is so insane that i can't even comprehend the dimensional plane that it's on well that's debatable i would confidently state that mugetsu scales above yamamoto majority of the quincy's if not every single one of them due to the statement that only yuhaba can contain one arm yamamoto's bankai and i'd say he is above the first version of you habakkuk that we see otherwise giving him the benefit of the doubt against any other version of you bach is just way too contentious and i'm not going to make any objective claims about that it just seems awfully consistent to say that that's where he scales a lot of people still to this day around 10 years on want to know just how much stronger did he go become when he appears in his dongai form and then how big is the increase of power while he is in mugetsu now the meta i have created to come to the answer is incredibly straightforward and has various factors that support this being the case on screen i've created a very simple chart that shows you the numbers and this is how it should work the transformation of bangkai is stated to be five to ten times of an increase in power urahara compares resurrection directly to bangkai towson states his qualification is better than going bangkai as he is a shinigami who has lived long enough to master his bankai and then goes into his resurrection showing resurrection would have a better increase in power than bonkai or at least a solid times 10 if any asparta uses it not say a fraction which seems to be the example shown to us when in data books it says things like a several times increase in power when it comes to resurrection which just does not make sense as if captains are getting a five to ten times increase when they go bankai yet the espada are only getting a three times increase in power or somewhere around there that means the captains are just slapping all the asparta like nothing so i believe that when you find statements that say several times or five times or anything around there it's talking about the absolute bare minimum and most likely referring to fraction and their resurrections and once again like i said about tourism urahara and captains versus the asparta it just wouldn't make sense for it to be that weak but anyway basuki aura goes first release making him 10 times stronger than his base he then goes second release which makes him another 10 times stronger and arguably even higher because we don't actually know how much of an increase the second release is and it does seem to be very special among the series though i will stick to just times 10 to make this as simple as possible and not dive into head canon ideas this would make him 100 times stronger than his base form when he is in second release 10 times 10 is 100 bada bing bada boom we know that sedo oscar does good honorary sarah and lanzaro lampargo or multiply his attack potency anywhere from 1 to 20 times meaning even if you lowball the resurrection on to half we still know the vaster lorde is around that 100 times multiplier and beyond as it casually negates all of these attacks with casual ceros and especially keeping in mind that it wasn't going all out and also had half of a shuhakusho on the full shihaku show version of his vasto lorde form is actually shown inside of ichigo's inner world during the dongai and mugetsu training basically vasto lotte ichigo is around 100 times his bankai when it comes to power base eisen and vaso lode ichigo are meant to be in the same ballpark of power by law eisen then goes through four transformations all of which would have multipliers of around 10 times each because the hogiyo crew could easily perform a feat like this considering it's stated to have immeasurable power and it is the device that casually gave the aspartame massive upgrades and power and in eisen's case he is completely fused with the hogyoku itself to assume that it would have lower multipliers than bangkai and resurrection would be pretty odd to be honest in fact i'd say that it would be higher than 10 times per transformation though once again i'm gonna lowball this for the sake of simplicity this means that eisen is arguably 100 to 400 times his base shinigami form especially considering the fact that he actually believes he has surpassed hollow and shinigami donggae ichigo when he appears is so strong that he can't even be sensed by monster eisen which is the final form that eisen actually battles in before he is sealed this means that don gaichio is tens to hundreds of times stronger than base eisen and the vasto lorde but more so leaning towards the hundreds it also doesn't help the case that with donggae ichigo throughout the majority of the battle he isn't really even being serious he's just mocking eisen and occasionally flexing his power but even with that being said this unmotivated bad mood ichigo is still showing us these crazy faiths then when he goes into mugetsu form eisen is so intimidated by this power that he believes he is an entire dimensional plane above him making it actually impossible to state how much stronger ichiro is at this moment as he doesn't really do much in the form except attack a single time but the data book statement i mentioned earlier about him being the strongest in the entire story the dimensional feats and the sokyoku statement means you could throw out a vapid number like thousands of times of an increase or it's just completely unquantifiable which it is it's unquantifiable once again if you're curious how much of an increase ichigo gets in donggai and in mugetsu in dongai you're looking at hundreds of times consistently in mugetsu it's genuinely unquantifiable just know that the transformation of mugetsu is pretty strong another really impressive feat from donggai ichigo that coincides with his other insane dimensional tearing feats is when he casually stands inside of eisen's kuruhitsugi and destroys it with his bare hands haro 90 kurohitsugi black coffin this is kuruhitsuki performed with full incantation by a being who transcends hollows and soul reapers it is a torrent of gravity that distorts space and time a thing someone like you could never comprehend ichigo kurasaki now quantifying what's going on here is rather weird but i will try my best to explain this ability and how it works in layman terms so everyone knows exactly what eisen is not only stating but what he's actually doing the black coffin also known as kuruhitsugi although on the outside appears to be this big black scary box that just appears and shreds apart the opponent's body once it is done actually functions similarly to that of a micro black hole a black hole itself is a region of space time where gravity is so strong that nothing no particles or even electromagnetic radiation such as light can escape from it the theory of general relativity predicts that a sufficiently dense mass can deform space time to form what we know as a black hole the black coffin appears to be based on this not only in its name but also in traits as it is similarly a compact ball of gravitational force which virtually turns whatever is inside of it to dust just from the sheer pressure of the gravity which is an aspect that eisen emphasizes you can already see the stark similarities between them but i would also like to address that though the black coffin operates similar to a black hole a black hole does not necessarily have a set power black holes vary in range of size you can have something as small as a micro black hole one that is so tiny you wouldn't be aware of its existence all the way to a supermassive black hole the same one that is theorized to be the axis in which our universe rotates around due to its shear density and gravitational binding energy the black coffin doesn't display nearly that level of energy but it has shown the capability to affect characters who can withstand attacks on a planetary scale such as captain class even when it was barely a third of its full power in the soul society arc it was even shown to be able to destroy the mimi hagi eyeballs completely to the point where there wasn't even debris in the area where the attack was used and eisen says the gravity of kuruhitsugi has created a fissure in the canopy it's a highly dense mass of reishi strike it once more with my spiritual pressure and it will destroy itself and to go back to the captain class planetary argument that i briefly just mentioned eisen actually believed that it had enough power to affect donghae ichigo now the fact that it didn't that's completely fine but we know for a fact that it actually would have killed the ichigo that was in katakura town as that ichigo couldn't even do anything to base eisen when he was in hollification so once again i'm not saying his kurohitsuki is a flat out supermassive black hole when it comes to power or it has infinite mass meaning that ichigo has infinite attack potency and infinite lifting strength right a lot of people tend to say silly things like that when it comes to black holes and they usually misunderstand the science behind them but realistically the kurohitsuki is doing exactly what a black hole does by nature so we could literally say eisen is summoning a micro black hole inside of this box and this is why even when he can barely summon a third of its power in the soul society arc it rips apart comamora's body and one shots him let alone the perfect version which is being amped by transcended spiritual pressure which is far above that of the previous planetary feat shown by weaker characters or ichigo blocking the sokyoku in the soul society arc etc to all of the people who downplay this feat when people attribute it to acting like a black hole or genuinely being one inside of the kuruitsugi you're scientifically incorrect and this shows you how much of a monster dong ichigo actually is let alone mugetsu the fact that the kurohitsuki is emphasized by other characters that it completely wiped the mimi haki from existence is further proof that it is acting this way they go so far to say that while the debris is even gone too to further put emphasis on that and it's not like existence erasure is even uncommon in bleach as we've seen that tosin used hato 54 haiyan on grimjar's arm which is explicitly stated to be a flame attack that eradicates the very existence of its target along with other keto that act in the same fashion and also the basic normal arrows that quincy's use those things actually exist and swipe the hollows that they kill which was even a narrative point in the story because they weren't killing hollows correctly whereas shinigami killed them a different way if you would like a further detailed explanation on the calculations and the scientific math for this kuduhitsuki feat everything alongside supporting evidence is linked in the description people who bring up the mountain cutting feat as a way to legitimately scale the power of ichigo and eyes and sort of got me acting like the best part about the infamous mountain feed isn't the act of destroying the mountain itself it's how it gets destroyed from them clashing blades in just casual sparring they are making mountains not just break but literally evaporate without the intent to even do it for you to consciously state that this is a legitimate feat from either of them and it displays the peak of their power or any substance of them truly going all out in these current forms would mean you have to concede that eisen has less firepower than second release ukiyora or even grimjar who almost destroyed los noches in his base form the same place that could fit thousands of those mountains inside it also contradicts feats from the first movie where 160 ish fodder soul reapers can destroy an entire dimension which mr kubo actually states is canon to the manga and it also contradicts the tokyo crew statements from the data books and the manga along with obviously if there's eyes and scales above mr uh yamamoto that means he would scale above yamamoto's ability to destroy the soul society in bangkai you could always sit the yamamoto argument to the side but even with that being said the other two examples still exist so it's a massive sort of you know contradiction i am beyond sick of hearing the mountain argument like we're still living in 2014 get with the times people please i've seen the argument thrown around quite a lot recently that the mugetsu form ichigo goes into is actually just a quincy technique like udyu's quincy lech steal which he used against mayuri koratsuchi in the seoul society arc the only issue with this is that ishin kurosaki is the one who taught ichigo how to use it and confirms that he has used it in the past i'll explain how and when isheen actually used his version of the mugetsu when i make a video on him but regardless there is no evidence other than the coinciding fact that when these two techniques are used the individuals who use them lose their powers after in ichigo's case he appears to be using a form that operates incredibly similar to sergeant kamamura's kakujo tengen miyaho however the only reason it appears in this japanese looking deity form is because it is a mixture of his quincy powers shinigami powers and hollow powers being combined all into one although there is no that determines who a form looks in this case mr kubo just made it look incredibly cool and we have seen similar looking forms from other shinigami showing us that this isn't some quincy technique or anomaly for that matter to our knowledge as readers and watches of bleach isheen knows nothing about the quincy or their practices other than what masaki would have told him and also are people forgetting that for you to use a quincy lech deal you need to actually have a particular item for it the same item that the quincy retired from combat due to the volst ending being superior although there is no data book information author statements or anything from the manga and anime confirming such dongai ichigo is actually able to react to eisen's reforming technique which many believe to be teleportation during eisen's first transformation with the hokyoku he claims he has surpassed both hollow and sorry but and yet this feat was performed in his third form of the hokyoku meaning he has far surpassed something as simple as teleportation which shinigami can actually do with the keto technique sentan hakuja i won't say for certain that this is legitimate teleportation but if it is this gives ichigo absolutely insane reaction speeds in his dongai form on top of his sensory ability which is underrated by many bleach fans that i've mentioned this in the past the first thing ichigo does when he appears in his dongai form in katakura town is he scans the entirety of karakura town and can locate his sisters in an instant now once again nothing is set in stone when it comes to the teleportation feat and whether or not it actually is but eisen has surpassed shinigami at that stage he has surpassed sentan hakuja and he actually knows how to use that keto too so i'm just saying if it is true teleportation ichi goes pretty quick one of the biggest questions i'm sure that we've all asked ourselves after watching ichigo versus eisen was did he really need to use the final gets a goten show against him interestingly eisen actually states that although he evolved into his monster stage he still can't sense ichigo before he even goes into mugetsu i've said this about three times now i know but it's relevant one might say this doesn't prove anything as eisen was still able to damage him with a fraggle it seems very logical to assume that ichigo wasn't fighting seriously until the very end when he wanted to end the actual battle this is why he is able to then flex and break out of the floating white rings that eisen formed around him while he had him by the throat if ichigo truly wasn't stronger in his dongai form he couldn't do that it's just blatant common sense it just seems to be the case that ichigo wanted the fight over and he was truly frustrated with eisen you can see this tone from ichigo when he wants to actually end the battle with eisen after defeating ukiyora in a battle that makes him uncomfortable when he realizes how the battle actually ended and you also do need to keep in mind that ichigo did just spend three straight months training with his son pup toe building a stronger bond with it watching his father suffer so that he could hopefully do enough to defeat the tyrant that is eisen and he just wanted things to be over for ichigo to be messing around in dongai he would be incredibly conflicted with the idea that he's about to lose his powers after the amount of time he did spend with white and zongetsu inside of his head and learnt about the true thing that they want to protect you can see this same depressed exhausted expression from ichigo's face after the battle with rukiora and during the entire battle with eisen he obviously wasn't going all out from the very start and he just wanted things to be over and done with to end this part of the video as we do see later on even while eisen's entire body gets eviscerated he can still reform himself so regardless of ichigo being stronger in either form he did need to use the mugetsu at the end of the day but it would not have made a difference to the outcome regardless he was just lucky that urahara had planted a keto seal that would activate when eisen's powers lowered to a certain point i mean sure ichigo probably could have manhandled him in his dongai form all day long and just continuously blow him away with the get-siggers but by doing this it might have actually given eisen the opportunity to transform multiple times and eventually surpass ichigo because of this eisen would be incredibly frustrated and his will would make it so the hogyoku would continuously surpass the previous strength that he had whereas when he gets hit by the mugetsu he kind of just accepts that well this is over and then the loneliness which ichigo talks about is finally realized and eisen can't transform again in time to avoid the keto seal the safe about honestly was just to use his magnum opus and try to one shot eisen you can even see that ichigo is surprised that eisen has the ability to regenerate from this so he genuinely needed to use it and thanks to mr urahara appearing and activating that keto the day was saved it still does suck that we never got to see him use a normal gets a guten show while in donggai as the one he uses against genji was like a damn kami humming heart and that was done while he was in shikai form that thing would have been massive while in dongai form like i imagine it would have been the size of boris's attack that he used against saitama like that kind of world ending devastating like size it would have been cool really annoying that we never got to see that or actually a longer fight i feel like if eisen versus mr ichigo in dongai form had have been like 15 plus chapters no one would really complain about it because it was really short considering the amount of importance that surrounded that final battle not necessarily that relevant to the point of this video but i think we all agree on that it should have been longer but anyway guys this is all i have to say on mugetsu i hope you all enjoyed this video and potentially learned something from it my next video will be on one of the most popular espada so you'll definitely enjoy that when it drops unless i decide to upload a filler video because i usually do stuff like that but anyway guys i just want to say that i'm going to be live on twitch right now which is linked in the description below so if you want to ask me any questions you want to come hang out and talk about bleach or inquire about this video and you know maybe you're a bit confused about some of the stuff that i said in this video and you'd like to get my straight up opinion or you know my actual explanation of what i meant if it wasn't clear enough in this video go to the description go follow me on twitch it is simply at clyde clyde i am live right now straight after the video is up so come and hang out and also if you want to see a comprehensive like deep dive look into specifically eisen because although i did touch on eisen in this video i haven't actually done a solo eisen video so if you want to see a very good video that talks about eyes and only go check out seth the programmers video on ism which is also linked in the description below and go give that video a thumbs up with that being said i just want to say thank you all for watching and have yourselves a great day you

Channel: Clyde

Views: 1,115,676

Rating: 4.9203215 out of 5

Keywords: Mugetsu Ichigo Is WAY Stronger Than You Think., mugetsu, mugetsu ichigo, the final getsuga tensho, the final getsuga tenshou, getsuga tenshou, isshin kurosaki, ichigo, ichigo kurosaki, ichigo vs aizen, aizen vs ichigo, aizen vs captains, all forms of ichigo, ichigo powerscale, bleach, bleach anime, bleach return, bleach manga, manga, anime

Id: 6ZtGDQ3mhD8

Length: 48min 49sec (2929 seconds)

Published: Tue Oct 20 2020