Did Ichigo NEED to Use The Final Getsuga Tenshou to Defeat Aizen? | Bleach DISCUSSION

during his final battle with eisen ichigo sacrifices everything to finally bring down the big bad of the series and while it does work there has been a lot of debate in the bleach community since that fight as to whether or not it was actually necessary on ichigo's part to go to those lengths to defeat eisen obviously when ichigo wins that battle by using the final gets katencho it costs him his shinigami powers and his spiritual awareness and everything like that reducing him to essentially a normal human being but many people have questioned whether richard even needed to use the final gets katencho as after his training in the dongla he was so physically powerful that he was completely decimating eisen at every turn in this video guys i want to take a quick look at the battle between ichigo and eisen and see whether or not ichigo really needed to use the final get to katencio or if it was unnecessary on his part and whether or not he would have defeated eisen without it regardless before we begin however guys if you haven't subscribed to the channel already uh we are on that push now to 20 000 subs so if you can help that number go up that would be amazing join our community follow me on twitter and join the discord that would be incredible um and yeah just make sure you hit the notification bell and you'll stay up to date with all my videos so looking at the final fight between ichigo and eisen then and for one thing i really enjoy that ichigo had a large personal cost to this battle because if he really was going to steamroll eisen in this way i'm glad it came to some kind of a detriment to him otherwise it would have been far too easy so from a storytelling standpoint i think it makes a lot of sense that it costs ichigo an awful lot to actually be able to defeat this monster of an enemy but was it really necessary to go to the links that he did one thing that's important to remember regarding this fight is that ichigo's enemy is not really eisen per se but more the hogyoku and it goes very much on a timer to defeat this thing before it becomes too powerful for ichigo to stop and eisen is merely the vessel for this ho goku at this point um and it feeds him power constantly and forces transformations on him all the time pretty much against his will the hokyoku is doing everything he can to keep eyes and alive if you remember towards the end of the eyes and fight kubo starts going into all this stuff about transcendence and different planes of existence and things like that they never really get brought up again afterwards but they are very important for this particular fight supposedly the way it works is if you can no longer feel someone's react to at all they have entered a different plane of existence to you where they are no longer even comprehensible by you when eisen is in his cocoon form he can no longer be felt by ishin kurasaki or even kisuki or o'hara these characters have now become far weaker than isaac to the point where they can't sense his power anymore after that obviously eisen only grows stronger once he once he escapes the chrysalis form he becomes stronger once again but ichigo can still feel his power at this point which is key to defeating eisen and why ishin believes it's worth teaching ichigo the final gets potential in the first place because ichigo could still feel the monster that eisen is whereas no one else can the hogyoku obviously forces another transformation onto eisen after this he becomes butterfly eisen um but that happens against his will he's killed by gene essentially but the hogyoku saves his life and makes him even stronger still and this is very key to why ichigo had to use the final gets potential to defeat eisen and it proves that if eisen was ever going to be in any kind of real mortal danger the hogyoku would probably just strengthen him even further until he was eventually the most unstoppable being that actually was you see by going into the dhan guy ichigo essentially shortcuts his way above eyes and then becomes even stronger than he when in chicago arrives in karakoram town after the dangani stuff eisen comments on not being able to send ichigo at all you have to remember that the final battle with eisen is all about eisens delusions and not having any idea what he's actually talking about that whole final battle is eisen trying to justify ichigo's existence to himself and how he's no longer able to feel each goes power even goes so far as to comment on how ichigo must have thrown everything away just to increase his physical strength which is obviously not true at all ichigo is simply much stronger than eisen in this version of himself when he's been training in the dhangai for months now that's not to say eisen isn't still obscenely powerful he can summon a full incantation kuro hitsuki with the power to distort time and space but even in this form ichigo still breaks it with his bare hands as though it were nothing in fact ichigo has such an obscene lead over eisen in this stage that it really is hard to see why he felt the need to lose his sunni gaming powers to win this fight in fact he grabs eisen by the face and launches him across the battlefield when they arrive in for the final fight and he's also able to just seriously wound eisen's body just by slicing him with his blade not only that but eisen transforms again into a monstrous hollow form presumably even stronger than the last form but it's really actually quite difficult to say how powerful this form is because of how vague the battle is at this point eisen uses his power fragor to basically level the battlefield and you do see that even this small little ball of energy that eisen can create now is capable of enormous damage visible even from karakura town as tatsuki sees it but ichigo comes out with what looks to be merely a charred arm despite being hit point blank with this thing so you have to kind of wonder how powerful is eisen at this point is he anywhere near each of those levels still or because eisen comments that ichigo can no longer use that arm but bear in mind what i said earlier about eisen attempting to justify everything in this fight to himself and you have to wonder if that's even remotely true or not or if it goes only just kind of merely singed it a bit um regardless eisen does attempt to finish it to go off uh but ichigo decides to use the final gets attention now ichigo's own words state that he uses it because he's tired of listening twice and talk he says i'm sick of your crap i'm going to end this now um and then he uses the final gets potential which and the fire against the potential you have to remember is essentially supposed to be a one-hit kill move and i think there's no question here that ichigo is going for the kill with eisen he knows he needs to finish him off and he needs to finish him off now and the reason i think it was necessary for it to go to use the final gets potential and by extension mugetsu is because eisen is going to continuously transform no matter what the fight is a countdown against the hogue which goes not really fighting eisen at this point he's fighting to defeat the vessel of the hogyoku before it can make it stronger than him because ichigo's power is essentially locked and you know maybe it is planes and planes above eisen at the moment but ichigo and eisen would continue fighting over and over and over the hogyoku would keep resurrecting eisen as it did before and eisen would eventually not not saying it's anytime soon because we don't know the upper limits of ichigo's power at this point but eventually eisen would become stronger than him and at that point it would be over there would be nothing ichigo could do and even the funnel gets attention doesn't finish eisen off because the ho goku's ridiculous power so the final get to potential is pretty much what it says on the tin it's a massive in just colossal gets potential that blankets the sky in essentially nightfall but it is like a straight single slice move and intro uses it clearly with the intention of killing eyes and once and for all because when you see isn't on the ground he has been split in half down the middle down pretty much his head is in half as well uh which i always thought was like wow that's that's actually pretty that's pretty pretty crazy for me to go but you know he is swinging his sword out of a sense of duty here but he knows he has to finish eyes and off because eisen's going to keep coming back regardless and obviously when eisen starts to regenerate again ichigo is in disbelief at the fact that you know he's still regenerating which obviously twitch implies the final gets potential didn't work um although it's quite clear that the final gets potential is strong enough to strip eisen of most of his powers uh entirely you even see eisen's ultra final form breaking away once it's been struck and of course indigo using the final gets attention does cost him all of his shinigami powers nearly it feels like immediately um he's barely able to do anything once he discovers the eyes and has survived his attack but obviously eisen becomes weak enough for kisuke's contingency kido to activate and he's sealed away uh but ichigo i feel like had no choice but to use the final gets potential when he did and it really was just a guessing game at that point four ichigo um yes he was decimating eisen at every single turn in his dangai form he was able to smash the full incantation kurohitsuki with his bare hands he was able to swing eyes and deal so much damage to his eyes and another transformation was forced upon him and he was able to survive eisens fragor attack with barely any real damage but the fight would have kept on going and ichigo at the end of the day is the one who would have started to struggle to keep up because his power had at least as far as we know some kind of upper limit to it whereas eisens would have kept on going continuously when eisen transforms for the final time he even says that the ho goku won't allow him to lose to a meager human um and so really the question is not should it have used the final gets content show but when should he have used it um had he used it against butterfly eisen would that have killed him completely i don't know i think it's probably impossible because the ho goku had essentially made him immortal at that point um you know it's even stated afterwards the eyes and has become completely immortal so for ichigo it's almost a it feels like a lose-lose situation you know he was not going to get out of that fight without losing all of his shinigami powers and i kind of like that i feel like there's a really cool sense of there's no turning back once ichigo arrives in his darn guy's state because i don't think there really was i don't what i what i'm curious to know is the moment zangetsu taught ichigo the final gets potential from that point on are we on some kind of a timer or is it only when ichigo transforms into the whole blackhead mugetsu thing that he loses his powers because i can't imagine super tall like long-haired buffets you go ever like just walking around with people if he hadn't used the fight against potential but i think that is the crux of the issue i think eisen would have continually evolved pretty much no matter what no matter how that fight had gone and no matter what ichigo had landed on him if he hadn't dealt the damage that he did with the final gets his head show i think eisen would have just kept on coming back until eventually it doesn't matter how long it was eventually he was stronger than ichigo and could defeat him and then you know karakura town would be finished so i think ichigo did the right thing using the final gets potential and from a storytelling standpoint as i said already i enjoyed that he cost himself so much to do so i think you shouldn't be able to defeat the final well not the final bad guy but the major villain of the series without any kind of real personal cost um and kubo wasn't going to kill any of ichigo's friends so killing into his powers that's you know that's another way of doing it um but yeah i always enjoyed the final gets potential i think it's one of the coolest abilities in the series it's definitely ichigo's coolest looking transformation in my opinion um and it was a really memorable and powerful way to end the iran car arc even if it was a bit rushed that whole kind of final section that final straight i do enjoy the final gets potential and it is a bit of a deus ex machina but it's a cool one at the end of the day you know it comes out of nowhere but it is really badass and it does come with a personal cost and i think that's really important but i think overall ichika had no choice but to use the fight against potential and i think he probably felt that way as well which is why he used it when he did i think he clearly want he said he was going to end the fight in an instant um and maybe he thought he was going to kill eisen with you know just the first slash but obviously eisen transforms again so yeah i think ichigo had no choice i think he used the fight against content show probably at the right time and yeah i enjoyed the fact that he lost all his powers and had to fight to get them back i really enjoyed that but guys let me know in the comments below if you felt ichigo had to use the final against consent show or if he could have just beaten eisen to the point where the hogyoku decided that he wasn't gonna be its master anymore just using his dango form um i do think that we didn't probably see enough of that fight to make a true estimation because ichigo was so ahead the entire way through um you know that point where ichigo says that wasn't your sword swing that destroyed that mountain it was mine that's eisen's real kind of wake up moment that he's in serious trouble um but we didn't see enough of the fight in general really to be able to gauge properly um but kubo gives us enough i think with eisen's second transformation again the ichigo probably was in trouble if he left it for too much longer so yeah to me i think was the right time but let me know in the comments below guys what you thought just a shorter video today guys but i really hope you enjoyed it all the same i'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments below about the fight between hgo and eisen and basically answer the question is did you think the final gets potential was necessary and if not why not but until next time guys if you haven't hit subscribe make sure to do that now you're the best place for bleach videos um but until next time i'll catch you later see you then

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Length: 13min 16sec (796 seconds)

Published: Mon Aug 10 2020