How much RAM do you NEED in 2024? 8GB vs 16GB vs 32GB Benchmarks

today we're doing a comparison in between 8 16 and 32 GB of RAM in 2024 and with ddr5 and I believe this is important because the dr5 did change some things compared to the dr4 but before going into that just let me tell you that the configurations used in this video are 1 times 8 GB because there are no DDR at least desktop DDR 5 4 GB sticks and even if they were they were there to buy well it wouldn't just really make sense to get one in 2024 2 * 8 GB and 2 * 16 GB running all at the same frequency and timings of 6,000 CL 36 36 3672 with also some sub timings actually manually tuned in order to avoid some performance differences due to that what does not fluctuate though is today's sponsors latencies that are always low today's sponsor is maximum settings a cloud-based gaming service where you won't need to to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade your RPC or a personal nuclear plant to boild up your system just do it and for as low as 9.95 Canadian dollars a month you can play the most recent games on your computer even if your Hardware isn't prepared sign up today for your full LX gaming PC with no resource sharing and start enjoying highlevel gaming on any PC as for the dr5 changes we do have some for example the fact that the dr5 has its own power regulation and management in each stick while ddr4 was controlled by the motherboard but for this video I believe that the most important thing for ddr5 is the fact that each stick of RAM is dual Channel and I say this with quotation marks because they're inde the Dual Channel as the the R5 presents two memory channels as opposed to only one with ddr4 although ddr4 has 64 bits per Channel while ddr5 has two channels of 32bit each meaning that we do have dual Channel but with the same Buzz width and since the mainstream CPU series like the AMD ryzen or the Intel Core i support only 128bit Buzz we could say that you are using dual channel for the ram but single channel for the CPU as you would only be using 64-bit Buzz with only one ddr5 stick and that can be seen if you use CPU for example where two sticks of ddr4 will show up as 2 * 64bit while two sticks of ddr5 will show up as 4 * 32 bits and this can actually help in some scenarios as we do not have to wait for a new refresh in order to make use of of some unused memory banks as we can use two lanes instead of one especially since we also have double the memory banks with ddr5 and all these features added according to Micron can lead up to an increase of 1.36 times of effective bandwidth at the same frequency which is actually quite nice and by the way since we're talking about memory channels there are some videos online that you can see that show that four memory sticks will be much faster than two memory sticks but that's because they're using HDT processors like for example thread Reapers or some core I9 extreme CPUs um like the ones that we had before for example on the 5000 series basically hgdt processors that support quad Channel or 2506 bit Buzz so if you use four RAM sticks it will indeed be quad Channel but if you put those same four RAM sticks in a normal processor like a ryzen CPU a normal ryzen CPU or a normal Core I5 or core i7 or even the core I9 it will still be dual Channel because the CPU only supports 128bit buzz what can happen for example is with the the5 if you're running two sticks of 16 GB you're most likely running single rank while two sticks of 32 GB or four sticks of 16 GB will provide you dual Rank and having two ranks per Channel usually delivered better performance with the the4 while it seems that with the the R5 it can vary and I do know a bit about this topic but if you think I was wrong in some part of the video feel free to leave a comment in the comment section correcting me and well as for the testing methodology we're using one run with the game only basically only the game opened with no apps whatsoever and then on the next run another run basically with apps opened I believe it was like 11 or 13 tabs I believe it was 11 11 tabs plus this card opened and uh my brother made sure that every single tab was reopened before going into the game uh in the game Run so uh because sometimes when you run out of ram what happen is that the browser will kind of close some tabs the tabs won't be closed but it will be kind of cut down in order to save some RAM and before going in each in each Benchmark my brother made sure that the tabs were open before running the game so we have the game only and the game plus apps which is basically basically browser with 11 tabs and Discord opened at the same time because the reality is that most people nowadays are not just opening the game they're opening the game with some apps in the background and that can affect the performance especially since we're testing 8 GB as well so let's go to the benchmarks starting with Avatar frontiers of Pandora we can see immediately that at 1080p the 32 GB kit performed as it should with no drops whatsoever when having the apps opened at the same time while the 16 GB get somehow at slightly higher averages but had a big drop in the 1% lows compared to when running the game only and that poor single Channel 8 GB stick would just get the game closed as soon as we loaded the apps at the same time at 1440p the8 gbes results get worse with huge stutters making the 1% low Drop to 2 FPS even with a game only but with a 16 gabes kit doing decently well with the apps opened now something that gets maintained at 4K where even the 8 GB kit or in this case the 8 GB stick can catch up in terms of averages but won't be able to deliver a smooth experience at all with Assassin's Creed Mirage it seems that we suffer a lot with the 8 GB stick in terms of averages and especially in the 1% lows when using the apps at the same time drops to 1 FPS which is insane actually at 1440p things run the same way with a 32 GB option being a bit faster and losing almost no perform performance when using the apps at the same time and at 4K it seems that the 8 GB kit was finally able to catch up I believe this is because things are now pending much more to the GPU side meaning that we get lower FPS and that requires less transfers in between the CPU and RAM making the 8 GB option able to deliver at least decent results Hogwarts Legacy is a game that I've seen allocating over 20 GB of RAM and I remember seeing it actually reaching around 24 GB of RAM after a while in terms of 1080p results well we see the 32 GB performing better and more stable in terms of average FPS basically losing none with a 16 GB kit losing a lot of 1% low when running gaps at the same time and the 8 GB stick delivering not only lower averages but an unplayable experience with lots of stutters even when running the game only at 1440p the FPS output is less so the 8 GB stick managed to get better results when only running the game with the 32 GB it having some weird FPS drops when running the game alone somehow but at 4K though the 8 GB stick does perform better since we're pushing less FPS but as soon as we Run apps in the background the game will immediately quit to desktop with no warning whatsoever even here the 16 GB kit did perform worse when tested with apps opened while the 32 GB kit performed basically the same cyberpunk 2077 is a game that doesn't use that much RAM at 10p the only slower option was the 8 GB stick being slightly slower on average but delivering considerably lower 1% lows at 1440p though it seems that the 8 GB stick does get some ground that it is now almost on par with the other kits bringing virtually equal averages but once again Lower 1% lows and at 4K I mean it finally manages to be on par with the other kits as we're only pushing 67 average FPS and the GPU is doing the biggest amount of work here Counter Strike 2 was tested in three rounds gameplay around D two which may lead to bigger inconsistencies gladly the in the work CPU benchmarks are now done using the replay feature for more reliable results but well at 1080p the only setup suffering is the 8 GB one that performs considerably worse due to being only single Channel and much worse with apps because well it's 8 GB at 144p the FPS output is lower and the 8 GB stick starts getting closer to the 16 GB kit delivering way lower 1% lows with apps though and at 4K well we're below 400 FPS and we can see that the 8 GB stick does a decent job here performing generally worse of course but if you're only gaming with not without any app opened actually it should be at least okay in this game not good or great of course but definitely okay Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 was one of those games that actually surprised me a lot since even with only 8 GB and single channel the results were basically the same at 1080p with the bottl neck being the ryzen 57600 X at 1440p the only setup that loses a bit of performance when using the apps at the same time is the 8 GB one which was actually expected of course and at 4K we have exactly the same results for all setups meaning that this game doesn't really care much about Ram capacity or at least it seems so in the last of us though things are entirely different with the 8 G Gaby stick managing to make the game quit to desktop as soon as we try to run it with the apps at the same time with the other two configurations well running just fine and the 32 GB one being slightly faster of course at 1440p the FPS output is less and both 16 and 32 GB skits are tied performance-wise with the 8 GB stick now being quite close as well but not being able to finish the Benchmark when running the apps at the same time something that only gets worse at 4K where the 8 GB stick wouldn't even be able to run the game solo and would immediately quit to desktop after some seconds as for the other configurations well they delivered exactly the same results Spider-Man remastered is a game that needs a lot of memory bandwidth to work properly and that's why we have the 8 GB stick performing so poorly not because of capacity per se but because of bandwidth as it is only running single Channel at 1440p things get more in line with a 16 GB kit losing a bit of performance when using the apps and the 8 GB stick well still being unusable and that's something that gets exactly maintained at 4K where both 16 and 32 GB kits deliver well very playable results but as we enable rate racing things get a bit odd to be sincere the 8 GB stick still performs like crap but the 16 GB kit delivered some odd results with the game only somehow being faster than the 32 GB kit but with the apps results being consider considerably lower which once again is kind of odd at 1440p things get more stable in terms of average FPS comparing the 16 versus 32 GB skits with the 16 GB one now being slower with the apps opened but the 8 GB stick isn't even able to run the game with the apps in the background now and that 4K well it is more or less the same but for the bigger capacity setups since the FPS output was less now both are delivering more or less the same results moving to in real Engine 5 we have RoboCop Rock City in this case we're pushing over 180 FPS and I believe that's why the 8 GB stick performed considerably worse in the 1% lows as well while the other kits were inside the margin of error margin that gets smaller at 1440p where all setups are delivering around the same average FPS but with the 8 GB stick still delivering the lower 1% lows the lowest 1% lows but that little difference goes away at 4K where all the three sets s are delivering the same FPS numbers since well the FPS output at this resolution is also quite lower and moving back to un real Engine 4 we have pubg which sincerely is not that demanding at all on the Ram side but I still decided to test it as its player base it's still well decently large at 1080p we have the 32 GB kit delivering a bit more FPS around 5% with the only difference being when using the 8 GB stick that still delivers lower 1% lows as expected at 1440p things are more less in line with what we saw before with all differences being around the margin of error with only a slight FPS drop in the game only run when with the when using the 16 GB somehow sorry and at 4K the FPS does get cut down by a lot but the 8 GB stick still delivers lower 1% lows compared to the other options most likely due to being single Channel only I believe and now we're back with Unreal Engine 5 once again and we have fortnite using epic settings nanite geometry Lumen set to Epic and TSR upscaling to Quality mode at 1080p things are where they should be with the 8 GB stick delivering around 10% less FPS and having the 1% lose dropping with apps open as opposed to the other setups at 1440p the 16 and 32 GB kits are now delivering the same performance and the 8 GB stick is getting really close to them with slightly lower values finally matching them at 4K as we were only pushing slightly over 70 FPS it seems that the ram capacity isn't really an issue with fortnite even in 2024 as for the average results even without the apps running in the background the 8 GB stick was considerably inferior since some games didn't even finish the Benchmark and some others like Spider-Man remastered had awful results on the other hand 16 GB is the bare minimum we should get today with the the5 and it sincerely still performs quite well for gaming only it will suffer a bit more with the apps in the background of course compared to 32 GB but you'll still be able to play most games without a single issue with maybe a sporadic stutter here and there depending on the game but Ram is one of those things that more is never worse and so guys as you saw well we can see that 8 GB specially single Channel because once again the dr5 minimum Capa capacity per stick I believe it's 8 GB at least for the the desktop side and 8 GB just won't cut it you can indeed play some games or at least most games with 8 GB if you're not playing with apps of course otherwise the game will just quit to desktop randomly quit to desktop 8 gbt are enough for most games nowadays once again nowadays only if you're running the game only and still you'll have some stutters here and there because when loading new parts 8 gbes just one suffice you have a stutter here you have a stutter there as soon as you move to 16 GB play playing with apps or without them well the performance drop the performance would would just be good you'll have some performance drop when running apps in the in the background just a little bit in some cases depending on the game but once again since you're running dual Channel and you're running 16 GB you'll have a lot less stutters when entering new areas in the games for example the one of the one of the biggest things that I noticed when changing from 8 GB to 16 GB and that was like two or 3 years ago was for example in Shadow of the Tomb Raider when I was loading a new area with 16 GB of RAM it was smooth and with 8 GB of RAM I would enter the area then I would have like a one or two second stutter Mo mostly like 1 second stutter like them and then the area would be loading and everything would run smooth but when I was loading that same area I would have a stutter one second St around that and that's basically what's happening right now with 8 GB but it's even wor now we have nvmes uh we have very fast ssds to to help those scenarios we have direct storage to help as well uh but Ram is still needed and more is never worse so if you can get for example 32 GB I believe that the sweet spot with the5 is 32 GB because the ram is cheap you can get a 32 GB kit for like 120 bucks or sometimes even less and it is usually they are pretty decent kits so I see no reason to get less than that unless you are on a really really tight budget for these benchmarks 8 GB were basically just in the name of science because nobody is using 8 gbt with the5 and if they are they shouldn't be 16 GB is even less expensive than 32 GB and 32 GB is already pretty cheap so my advice is if you can if you have the money just go for 32 GB because they perform better if you want to have apps opened in the background several tabs um maybe some other applications at the same time even for example if you're editing you just instead of closing the the software you can simply minimize the software go play a game uh and you still won't run out of ram while if you're using 16 GB well that may happen so 32 GB as the sweetch spot for sure but 16 GB will still suffice as it is the bare minimum you'll have slightly lower performance with with apps open but it will still be more more than enough for 90% of people so yeah thank you very much for watching the video guys don't forget leave leave a like leave a like in the comment section that's that's what I was going to say leave a comment in the comment section leave a like in the video thank you very much if you enjoy the video and share it if you think that these results are relevant for 2024 and if you want many other people to actually see the results that I'm presenting right now I believe these results are interesting especially on the 8 gbt side um with some very interesting scenarios of games not even running of games not even booting or in some other scenarios like Spider-Man where the performance is just crap and going from 8 to 16 makes a huge difference once again thank you for watching the video and see you in the next one guys [Music] cheers goty [Music] [Music] Downy

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Length: 19min 30sec (1170 seconds)

Published: Thu Feb 08 2024