Hornady Black 75Gr HD SBR 5.56

everybody Erin Callan sage dynamics and this is Horta tees black 75 green interlock HD SBR around the title of the round the name of the rounds a little bit of a mouthful but what are we looking at is a two to three round that's specifically designed for your short-barreled rifles your SBR is your 10 and 11 inch by a quarter of these own advertisements and information it's optimized for that length around now this round isn't new in fact it's a bit of a rebranding from hornaday's law enforcement Horne a DS law enforcement tap SBR around sometimes touted as a barrier blind round it's around this design to perform optimally out of the shorter barrel links and still provide you with great expansion and terminal ballistics despite the shortened length of the rifles barrel if you're familiar with the 2 2 3 5 5 6 family you know historically the rifle has provided better terminal ballistics with longer barrels which kind of goes with pretty much any rifle out there the shorter the barrel the more you're going to give up in exchange for that shorter barrel length why a shorter barrel well everybody's needs are going to be somewhat different most people like to use an AR pistol or an AR SBR in the 10 11 inch range for a home defense gun which is kind of what the round is marketed for you also see it in use in law enforcement because it gives you increased maneuverability but you do give up a little bit like I said of your your terminal velocity front of the round because you're giving basically a shorter barrel length so in recent history the past 5 10 15 years you've seen ammunition companies specifically target that barrel length at produce rounds for it which is a really cool thing because despite some of the disadvantages are the cons to going to a shorter barrel length there are some distinct advantages the biggest one being maneuverability yes you can get it done with an 18 or 20 inch rifle but the tighter the quarters are the the bigger your concerns are for maneuverability especially working in a team environment or a home defense situation where you know you've only got you know 15 16 hundred square feet because not all of us have 6,000 square feet homes with very wide spacious opulent hallways those shorter barrels can really make life easier for those people who have concerns such as they have small children or something like that they still want to run a rifle it's much easier to run a 10 or 11 inch rifle one-handed if you've got a scoop up a kid or hold the hand of a child an emergency situation of course that's getting a little bit off-topic and getting into context but just focusing specifically on the round I wanted to pick these up and just see how well they performed some interesting things about the interlock round the HD SBR round hornaday Hornady black it has a brass case which I found a little strange I prefer a nickle case especially in the air platform for self-defense or duty ammunition because nickel extracts easier it doesn't expand to the same degree that brass does so in the event of a malfunction it's much easier to clear malfunction on a nickel plated or nickel casing then it would be on a brass casing so just my personal preference and maybe I've been spoiled by my my chosen round which is the gold dot I like the ability to clear the malfunctions a little bit easier and have a little bit less expansion in those high-pressure rounds but there's nothing wrong a brass again brass has been used by the military since forever basically so there's no real issue there I just found it curious that if they they were touting a specific home defense around that they didn't choose to go with the nickel casing but that's neither here they were there it's more of a personal preference issue but there are some definite advantages to the nickel casing now getting into the bullet itself it is hornaday's interlock design which you can you can find out plenty of information about that line that round design online they use it in a couple different lines of ammunition but the interlock round is kind of interesting in the fact that it has that solid core that aids an expansion through the interlock system so it's not going to perform in the same way or it's not expected to perform a design to perform in the same way as some of the other rifle rounds out there such as your open tip match or your steel core or tungsten core penetrators that you see from the military another interesting feature of the the interlocked round hornaday Hornady SBR HD interlock 75 grain is the fact that as dual can alloys which should provide for more consistent crimping inside the case neck those people who get really geeked out on ammunition designed specifically for loading or probably find that somewhat interesting for the testing I'm going to use two different rifle lengths because it's optimized for an SBR I wanted to use to the to the most common SBR lengths in the SBR lengths are specifically mentioned in some of the marketing that I've seen out there for the round being a 10 and 11 inch for the 10 inch category I'm going to use my SMOS upper which is a 1 in 7 twist rate and then 4 in the 11 inch category I'm going to use my PWS sage Edition mark 111 pistol which is a 1 an 8 twist I wanted to use 2 different twist rates it's not a comparison between the two guns it's a comparison of the round through two guns but I wanted to use those two kids to twist twist rates in those two lengths because those are very very common lengths and twist rates that you see in SPRs and AR pistols the very first thing I wanted to do was see what the muzzle velocity was like on the round even though there's this quoted information I want to check into myself I got a magneto speed it's a very accurate magnetometer so I wanted to put that on both rifles and based on a 5 round group see what my average muzzle velocity was going to be out of my 10 and my 11 inch gun so up first is the 10-inch SMOS overall not bad the standard deviation is a little higher than I would like it to be but that's neither here nor there for the purposes of just looking at strict muzzle velocity now that muzzle velocity is hovering just above what some people would be consider the minimum muzzle velocity to be effective out of an AR for the two to three five five six caliber now let's take a look at the muzzle velocity for the PWS and again we've got a muzzle velocity hovering just above what would be considered the minimal acceptable muzzle velocity for the two to three five five six round because this ammunition is designed with SBR lengths in mind the bullet doesn't is not supposed to anyway perform the way a traditional round would like you're just standard FMJ or even your penetrator rounds so there's supposed to be a degree of expansion that occurs beyond some of the desirable characteristics of rifle rounds that you see for longer rifles that more they're looking for more of that fragmentation pitch in yaw or is it this round they're looking for it to expand and perform not the same but similar to the performance of a handgun if I can get a handguns expansion with 2,200 feet for a second that's going to be a pretty devastating round when you factor in 2200 feet per second is going to give me some of that kinetic energy that's going to give me those temporary wound cavities depending on the round placement on the human form so that's something I'm definitely interested in as far as performance characteristics and those terminal ballistics the initial tests I want to do wanted to do was a baseline shooting both rifles at for distance for different distances on 10 percent calibrated ballistic gel that I use clear ballistics because it's clear I like my gel to be clear so I can see exactly what I'm looking at and the opacity okay kitty opacity of the material doesn't change its overall performance because again it is calibrated 10 percent ballistic gel which is considered a standard for almost everyone in testing ballistic performance of well bullets so for our baseline performance we're going to shoot from four distances 10 yards 25 yards 50 yards and a hundred yards so let's get started up first is the SMOS at 10 yards see we had 20 inches of penetration which is considerable and the round while it did expand it did turn around a little bit good consistent wound channel so that's actually pretty good performance for that distance again there were no barriers but is just establishing a baseline performance on gel before we move into testing against clothing and barrier now looking at the round through the PWS 11 inch 20 inches of penetration with really good expansion that's a very very deep penetration wound cavity looks good so at 10 yards this round is doing very well now let's move it up to 25 yards first up at 25 yards as the SMOS almost mimicking the performance at 10 we had 20 inches with consistent expansion so the rounds still doing very well now let's move on to PWS at the same distance so here's the PWS at 25 yards we have 25 inches with with reasonable expansion now this was such an aberration from how well the SM was performed at the same distance and the differences between the twist rates and the barrel lengths that this distance should be minimal because we're not losing we're not bleeding off a lot of our velocity so I went ahead to shot this twice and I got the same almost the exact same results within a eighth of an inch so I wanted to make sure that I was in fact getting that there wasn't an aberration and maybe testing procedures I just wanted to make sure so that's been confirmed with two shots on jail that that was in fact the penetration distance at this distance now let's stretch our legs a little bit and move both guns out to 50 yards so here's the SMOS at 50 yards we had a complete exit but a good consistent wound channel the fact that the round can completely exited the available runway if you will of elicit gel a little troubling 50 yards it's bleeding off of enough of its velocity that it's losing its rifle characteristics and becoming a little bit of an over penetration concern now 50 yards is probably never going to happen inside of a home defense situation but that's definitely getting into the range outside the reasonable performance distance for that round they selling it there's a home defense round for a reason now let's see how the Peter yes did so here's the PWS at 50 yards [Applause] as you see we had an exit second block 31 inches so it's performance was very very similar to that of the SMOS at the same distance the the round yard considerably took that took that turn and exited to the side of the block again this is a little bit outside the envelope or the expectations of performance for this round you're still gonna get good ballistics if you have to engage somebody human form at 50 yards but the round really isn't performing optimally at that distance nor was it probably intended to ever perform very very well compared to other rounds at those extended distances but because we can now we're going to stretch it out to 100 yards first up at 100 yards is the SMOS 31 inches of penetration with very very poor expansion which shows you that the round at that distance we saw the carrying on from 50 yards out to a hundred the rounds losing the velocity it needs to perform as designed which is a considerable concern could be a concern to paint on what you intend uses around for 31 inches is still really good penetration but as you can see the round failed to perform as it is designed to perform and that's because it just lost so much velocity now let's check out the PWS so here's our PWS at 100 yards 32 inch exit so full available ballistic gel penetrated every inch we had with an exit so still got the velocity to penetrate that 10% calibrated ballistic gel and in perform but it's lost so much of his velocity I would be willing to bet that if we were able to recover the round and I look for it you couldn't find it that it failed to expand as well and the wound channel especially towards the rear of the ballistic gel shows that it's it's wound channel was significantly narrower than what we are seeing at closer distances so that's our baseline performance but it doesn't really reflect real life ballistic gel is a great medium for for testing the terminal ballistics of firearms well routes but we want to be able to simulate some of the possible intermediate barriers that women care encounter in real life the FBI being one of the primary sources of information around performance they test virtually every round and those results can be found on the internet or through trusted sources especially law enforcement you may have it made more readily available to you than just googling it up everything becomes available eventually but some things take more time to leak out but what we're looking at especially since this round is for a home defense purpose is I want to look at the home defense protocols or protocols that the FBI uses that would lend themselves better to a home defense purpose and a few others just because we can so the first thing we're gonna look at is heavy clothing which I'll get into specifically what that is then we're gonna look at drywall then we're gonna look at plywood and then just because we can we're gonna look at 20 gauge hot rolled steel which simulates the Douro car and our quarter-inch laminate glass which is going to simulate the windshield of a car I wanted to throw those two tests in there because vehicle defense is a very real thing and some people do keep rifles and their cars like with hood and needing it debatable but sometimes it's better to have something to not need it than need it and not have it and for those of you who are choosing your own law enforcement duty around and you work in an urban area that information may be of use to you as well first up we're going to look at heavy clothing which is a very very real possibility people wear heavy clothing based on season or based on intent and heavy clothing can provide a barrier to round performance more so at handguns you see this a lot with handguns where if the clothing is thick enough it can actually fill the expansion cavity of your hollow-point and keep the round from expanding as designed which is something that completely frustrates ammunition designers and they have come up with some very inventive ways to get around it with a rifle that's not necessarily the concern but it's still a barrier and it still can cause aberrations in round performance of what a new test you want to look for a consistency through these types of barriers for heavy clothing we're looking at denim and fleece and then two different types of cotton which is commonly the material pack used to simulate a heavy clothing package granted if you're going to do this testing on your own as long as you're consistently using the same fabrics you can establish a very good baseline freight for your own edification if you will for your own data and it's not unreasonably expensive to get into testing on your own clear ballistics offers pretty much everything you need and while the initial investment can be three or four hundred dollars for to block gels and and and some of the testing media or accessories you'll need then you don't have to worry about trusting some random person on the Internet you can test your own ammunition and I'll talk more about that later so let's look at how both router but I should say how the round performed on out of both guns on heavy clothing first up let's check out the SMOS on heavy clothing the SMOS achieved 19 inches of penetration with a reasonable tumble and and pretty decent expansion that's good performance and again it's just clothing than people think all clothing is not going to present that much of a barrier you'd be surprised how much clothing can cause inconsistencies and steel performance away from what otherwise might be considered a good round for the PWS on heavy clothing we had twenty inches of penetration with good expansion good wound channel again both rounds are still performing very very well considering the fact that they're they don't have that advantage of barrel lengths so so far the hornaday black rounds looking pretty good now we're gonna look at drywall drywall is one of the most common into your building materials out there almost every home in the United States is going to have drywall walls the reason we're looking at performance through drywall is the fact that those barriers exist and while one of the rules is you know you don't shoot anything you can't see if someone is partially obscured behind say a doorframe if I can see some of their body then I can use into of reasoning to link the head bone to the body bones if you will and know where the rest of them is or any number of partitions breakfast bars other situations where you may have to shoot through drywall in order to get the hit that you want we want to have reasonable penetration through that intermediate barrier but we don't have so much penetration that if we miss the rounds gonna exit the house which is a separate video topic that I'll get to in the future what we're looking at is standard drywall configuration which is two half-inch pieces of drywall separated by your standard 2x4 studs as most hand houses are constructed first and line SMOS performance through our drywall setup 20 inches of penetration the decent expansion and a really good tumble the wound channel looks really good 20 inches is good we're still keeping consistent with the rounds performance for those home defense purposes you'll notice the the round penetrated close to the same distance on heavy clothing so even this additional media that we've introduced in front of the round at these home defense distances hasn't considerably stolen any of its terminal ballistic properties and that's a very good thing now let's check out the PWS is performance on drywall 17 inches of penetration with a yaw exit overall a wound channel looks really good the difference in performs to institute rifles could be attributable ver length it could be attributable to twist rate that's definitely a factor for someone who's very more collegiate in their approach to ballistics and has equipment that I don't have access to if I had a phantom high speed we'd definitely be able to see some more consistent differences but just looking to drywall performance between the two rounds or I should say the round between the two rifles so far so good plywood is another common test because it simulates the exterior paneling of most homes and some of the paneling or doors inside of a home you're looking at three quarter inch double-a fur which is the plywood medium that I use for this test distance is going to remain the same same distance that I used for heavy clothing and or the drywall now plywood is considerably more dense than any of the mediums that we've shot so far so we want to see if it's going to cause any considerable performance issues with the round between our two barrel links so first up let's check out the SMOS is performance on plywood looking at the SMSs performance on plywood 20 inches of penetration good wound channel decent expansion again we just shot their drywall and we saw very similar performance we shot through heavy clothing saw very similar performances so far while I don't like the term barrier blind this round is behaving like it doesn't care what I like or don't like it's performing consistently consistently now so far through three different mediums of barrier now here's the PWS performing through plywood as well 20 inches in 1/4 of penetration good expansion good wound channel again around doesn't care so far what barrier we put in front of it it's going to continue to perform very very similar at like distances despite the mediums we've introduced in front of it so so far just from from a home defense perspective this round is performing well the last two tests we're gonna look at our vehicle based in I guess inspiration the two very standardized tests that are used for round performance on vehicle bodies first one is going to be 20 gauge 2 sheets of 20 gauge hot rolled steel place 3.5 inches apart this steel is used to simulate the body of a vehicle the car door if you will while one car door is something that you commonly see people at least in television shows not so much more in real life attempt to use for cover instead of just consuming so this testing protocol has been something that's been practiced in law enforcement FBI and other ballistic testing labs to see how rounds perform well now there's a bunch of stuff in a car door besides just two sheets of metal so you can't factor in a round striking a crash carriage or an electric window motor or something like that I like it more for the fact that it also helps simulate density and resistance that would be offered from some of the more common implyin PSA's you see in homes such as a refrigerator or a stove microwave things like that so it gives you an idea of how well your round is going to perform on those types of barriers and it can also simulate to a certain degree give you an idea of performance on how the round would perform against us some some people have metal corridors especially people who live in certain geographical regions of the country their front doors probably more likely to be an aluminum or an aluminum machine aluminum sheet cover flashing cover over wood that it is going to be your standard wood cord door first up SMOS on the 20 gauge hot rolled steel so on the steel the SMOS had 15 inches of penetration and it literally exited the block and just stopped right there on the table which i've seen that happen before but it's pretty rare it literally had enough energy to make it out of the block and that was it it couldn't go any further as you can see the round had very very poor expansion which is actually pretty common for a lot of rounds when performing through two pieces of 20 gauge steel so I'm not going to hold that against the bullet what this tells me is I can still get a reasonable hit on my bad guy if he's using an intermediate barrier that offers a resistance close to or less than this the steel that we're using is our ballistic medium our intermediate barrier that's still pretty good performance considering the amount of energy it takes to penetrate something like steel over plywood or drywall or heavy clothing 15 inches is still a good number to get for performance even with that barriers looking at the PWS is performance through our two sheets of 20 gauge hot rolled steel we had about 14 and a half inches of penetration poor expansion really no expansion a little bit of fragmentation a decent amount of tumble not a bad wound cavity but again that's a significant barrier for around performing is especially starting out at the lower end of velocity that that round is capable of through our 10 and our 11 inch guns I'm very very happy with the overall performance of the round through that barrier considering the well just the factors of physics and and the density of materials on the strength of materials that rounds going to have to perform or it's going to have to be a well-designed round I should say to perform well any round through twenty gauge steel final test we're gonna look at is laminate glass 1/4 inch laminate of the same laminate grade of glass that you find in the windshields of automobiles and in some of the when are the windows exterior windows that you find in homes now for the automobile purpose of this test it's usually done at a 45 degree an 11 degree angle for a glancing shot both on the actual glass plane itself and give a slight angle as an offset from the target through the windshield add to axises of an angle to further complicate the rounds performance round performance through glass is well it's a it's a topic very near and dear to my heart it's something I definitely care about more so with handguns because you're more likely to use your handgun in a self-defense situation inside of a vehicle than you are rifle depending on the context of your occupation in life but rifle rounds shooting through glass bolt out and into glass is definitely something that you want to be concerned with even with a rifle round because it simulates some of the intermediate barriers that you may find not only in your vehicle but inside your home so we want to see how the rounds perform through glass are they going to be able to keep their favorable terminal ballistic performances because of the complicated nature that this barrier presents against what you see from some other barriers so first up let's check out the SMS performing through our laminate glass our SMOS had 15 inches of penetration good wound cavity extreme fragmentation and very I wouldn't say extreme but good deformation of the round so the round wasn't able to give us that textbook marketing photo expansion that you'd want to see based on the desirable characteristics that are built into the round for its terminal blister properties we didn't get that but we did get reasonable penetration and reasonable expansion with some fragmentation and again anytime you shoot there an intermediate barrier especially the higher velocity rounds they're going to create secondary missiles if you will out of the media that that barrier is made out of so they take when you shoot heavy clothing they take material inside the wound channel when you shoot drywall they're taking drywall in there which is super annoying when you're remelt in your ballistic blocks when you shoot steel they take steel in there so on and so forth shooting through glass you're going to take a lot of that particulate with you into your bad guy which can be a complication factor for him in his future medical endeavors and finally here's our PWS performing on our laminate windshield glass 13 inches of penetration with some pretty extreme fragmentation a lot of secondaries ended up in that block I pulled a lot of glass out of that block when I was when I was reforming which is a good thing 13 inches not as good is the SMOS performs arguably 4 for penetration wise wound cavities were very very similar 13 inches through windshield glasses I would like to consider that to be pretty good performance it's not ideal I would like to see 15 16 inches I would like to see you know that 15 16 inches be you know considerable across a wide degree of intermedia bears but because the round is being fired out of an SBR 10 inch 11 inch respectively now we are seeing what I think to be the best performance you're going to get out of current technology for those barrel lengths that grain weight at the velocity that you're capable of producing safely with that barrel link so if I'm gonna look at this round for a strictly home defense purpose or a general purpose round it's not a bad round at all or natee really did this really really well when they released it originally as the 75 grand tap round for the SP RS for law enforcement purposes I don't know if any changes were made to the design before they branded it as Hornady black speaking of branding the packaging is a little on the nose but I mean again it's gonna appeal to some people more than others I don't really need my box of ammunition to have like a subdued sheen American flag with the don't tread on me snake and don't step on snake and all that but overall it's on what on the what's on the inside of the box that counts and if you are looking for around specific for SBR scuzz there aren't a whole lot of them out there this is a round that you should definitely check out I found its accuracy to be really good velocity is really good and as you can see through the gel testing that we did both the control testing baseline testing and then our testing on some of the more common intermediate barriers round performs very very well for for considering the length of the barrel that's coming out of so if you're gonna ask me if the hornaday Hornady 75 grain interlock HD SBR round is good to go I'm gonna give it a big thumbs up it's definitely something you should check out if you're looking to switch over from your current ballistic round now mention it earlier I'm gonna bring it up again if you're serious about rounds and you're serious and ballistics is something that interests you don't take the Internet's word for anything be willing to invest a little bit of extra money save up you know twenty thirty dollars a month or whatever your budget allows for to buy your own ballistic gel it's not that big really complicated scientific thing that the average person can have access to any more clear ballistics and another many other companies offer ready-made ballistic gel that's pre calibrated and they give you really specific instructions for how to reuse the gel the blocks that I have they have started to experience some discoloration for multiple remelt but the calibration remains true and consistent I'm able to continue to use these blocks for multiple ballistic tests and while my initial investment for as many blocks as I have was kind of high if you're buying for own personal purposes two blocks are gonna allow you to test almost every small arm ammunition you're gonna get especially if you're using it through intermediate barriers and the information for how to set up testing protocol is available online as well so if you want to follow what the FBI does or follow what somebody else does for some sort of standardized testing and give yourself an appreciable metric for the round that you choose it's really not that complicated to do it Matt really the hardest part is going to be finding a range where you can shoot and actually shoot ballistic gel because you probably you haul the stuff in your local indoor range and they're probably not going to let you do anything with it you can grab a couple friends you're shooting buddies get together throw in on it and go out on a weekend and test the the rounds that you choose never trust without verification the claims that a manufacturer makes on their round and this is why you know I made this video I test ballistics pretty frequently but I don't we film it the reason I don't film it is because as you can see how many times I had to shoot this how many rounds were fired how many ballistic gel blocks were used how many mediums were set up these are very very labor-intensive videos well I do like to give you guys good content sometimes the it becomes needlessly complicated in the production of a video so you're not going to see a whole lot of these just because of the production time that goes into them and I'm pretty busy already if I was just a YouTube channel then I would do nothing but this because I find this super fascinating but I have to travel multiple times a month to classes and teach and then I have administrative stuff doing work contract classes to do during that during the week so it's just not feasible for me to always be able to do these but anytime a new round comes out that makes ridiculous claims I'm probably going to get a hold of it and see if it's telling the truth so before you trust around verify that it's performance is similar to what the manufacturer is telling you it's capable of doing because sometimes they're literally just selling you snake oil I'm Erin callus sage dynamics training quarterly

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Length: 31min 41sec (1901 seconds)

Published: Tue Jul 03 2018