HC3 Decider! ACCM vs saymyname! Battle for Vietnam!

well and welcome everybody game number one full best-of-seven winner makes it into HC three a CCMS in the blue a CCM has gone for the Berbers and look who's he's up against this is a weird sub matchup here Malians do ya okay so say my name he chose Berbers in his best of five round one set then backed yesterday in a best-of-seven to make it into HD three chose Berbers and now a CCM is going Berbers all the vietnamese players they play together so frequently it seems like they have the same way of looking at things mm-hmm but how well do Berbers do against Malians that's the question here yeah what does this SIF match up like because I I know Malians pretty flexible in terms of what they can do and I'm looking at that stone and the gold from a CCM and I'm thinking move maybe say my name is coming forward here yeah as soon as he sees that yeah so this is how I would sum it up I would say that Malians are certainly more flexible with the fact that they're wood buildings are cheaper they can do so much more throughout the game they also have full camel they have full full nights but those nights are not discounted Dave with Berbers you have very cheap nights and camels so I think castle age is probably where Berbers need to shine if this goes post in and then the malian player has the resources to get whatever text you might want I think yeah yeah and Berbers struggle like early and then there's the mid game mid game that's where you got to get to and you got to have a stable economy when you get there if you're a CCM or as we've seen with a cesium in the past he could just go forward as well sure you never know what these these guys so yeah I feel like Berbers are an underrated forwarding civilization because of the villager speed I remember and also you can go for greedy walls with them too because you can maybe make it back to your base if you get attacked I remember MDL in the what event was it it I think it was the event where oh you have once it was the mono sieve Cup it was a small weekend event and he had Berbers and he would just wall his base early every game with the fast which I found interesting hmm all right so you see some walling I mean these are normal houses that you'd have to build but maybe an area that a CCM wants to block off I definitely feel like the elevation could make things awkward for a CCM and the gold positions this is I would say a solid Arabia map it's going to be awkward it might be a little bit more structured for saying my name if he wants to go for walls in this game I'm just looking at like all the red um it's just like other than the wood yeah awful yeah look at the gold the stones but with his secondary Gold's are like near hills or far away from his base it's just it's not good at all yeah both players have secondary gold problems though say my name has one forward well I'd say two of them are pretty exposed the one Ethan Navy town center so I like this map Jen it's it's not first off we don't have Aztecs or Mayans in Game one so we don't expect full wall which is nice but also it's it's not a map that they could walk even if they had a heavy wall Civ it may be Spanish with the build speed but I'm expecting Scouts here Dave but when's the last time you saw berber rivers Malians remember this matchup it someone's probably gonna be like Dave you cuss about two months ago yeah yeah I've never I don't remember ever seeing this matchup on Arabia so interesting to me how they're both looking for each other right now and they're both the same distance away from the others TC there this game look look at out there approaching the enemy base at around the same time and they're even at the deer and then yeah they're both hooking in yeah that's so interesting to me but a CCM finds that villagers walling you could decide to attack that pillager if you want to and he goes in for it the Loom is on the way this will actually be pretty close as another villager comes in to your table that villager go down or a CCM loses scalp oh man that hurts to lose that much scaled HP is not good not optimal at all you didn't even like you didn't even get a villager it's not worth it yeah anyway yeah that was oh my goodness okay so so what a CCM has done he's going to feel a little a bit later normally with 21 population scout builds you'll float a villager to wall basically whereas the the twenty pop builds you're not going to see as heavy walling though with Malians I guess you can afford it a bit more because everything's a bit cheaper okay looks very much like Scouts you didn't see any player go to gold early you'll see the barracks come up for a CCM I'm sure but say my name will be slightly more comfortable because his Scouts on PO HB yeah he can dictate where the fights happen in early feudal it's funny I I keep having to resist the urge to like press the fast-forward but yeah I've been doing it so much whenever I watch games lately and it's like hmm I'll stay with you what time are you at I'm nine twenty so I imagine we're really close oh we're right on top yeah and the the recorded game speed it doesn't speed up and slow down like the live game speed does sometimes so there's really no concerns with it these two again they know each other well they're just discussing things with each other there I think there was probably a pause and the other player was thinking I thought I was playing say my name or a CCM not backed so what were you what were you saying about neither player being fully walled they'll get there like their man if a cesium gets that one little patch in the wood line behind his face yep and he manages to secure this gold that would be HUGE if you managed to secure that yeah this is the thing when you're both going Scouts it oftentimes turns into full all your base make three or four Scouts and then stop it's so interesting but it makes sense to still have the scouts for all that map control and it's not like you can I've seen players full-wall their base and go Spears to counter Scouts and not add the stable but then your opponent adds archers your Spears are done and they have Scouts and archers so it's you know a bit of a weird thing that the scouts don't do much damage that looks like full walls are up for a CCM and like I said about these gold stave the Gold's are not great for either player all Gold's are a bit exposed even with the walls yeah and the way that a CCM is walled has actually made his gold better than yeah say my name's right now mm-hmm are we calling him yellow say my name red we'll just we'll just have to go back and forth it the sad thing is there's not enough people out there who know that he's yellow yeah and I I told him I played him in a few matches months back and I didn't I'm not aware how much they watch streams or whatever so I told him every time that we cast you and we say say my name chat says our name and he says he said lols lolz lols I think that's why he made the name though if I remember correctly baby I think it he tried to change his name from yellow and everyone was calling him just kept calling him yellow yeah so he changed his name the same name if he picks if he picks yellow it wouldn't be too bad but he never does he never goes for yellow I think he's a troll man t9y official did you know Beck's got married yeah it was literally his username yesterday during his best-of-seven yes yeah he changed his name to back to married so yeah everyone's pretty aware of that my friend okay stone a stone yep hmm castle camel archers all right I mean there be good in the castle age it's just if you're checking into it as you're like oh composition you might struggle take some time and it's so expensive build the castle 650 stone then you need the units then you still can't fall behind an economy but what's interesting now is say my name is adding a range Dave if he goes for an archer switch he can range some of that stone so it's important for a CCM to have some game sense or notice this somehow because otherwise it's trouble yeah every single stone within reach of a CCM his base he can range so if he gets him off that suddenly aged to say I'm either has to buy a castle or has to text which into something else yeah this is just another example of why having Scouts is so important because if he has them in the right area he'll see the archers are on the way and then he can easily tower but I still wouldn't say that it's great if he has to tower like this I love the archer switch from say my name because the gold can be arranged by crossbow the stone the wood line even I think every wood line almost every area can be arranged by crossbows yeah I don't really think Knights are gonna get you that much in this situation yeah but but then you also have to think about ideal compositions and if a CCM is able to get camel archers rollin I feel like that's fantastic in this matchup whereas Malian aliens are so interesting with their archers which because they they benefit from the faster University upgrade so they can go for fast ballistics in crossbow but they do not have the best ranged units an imp so mid game probably better form aliens but maybe if a CCM holds on he'll be better off well you need that hard switch it's kind of like Mongols if you're not going for manga die and castle age yeah the Malians are like a similar thing where all of a sudden you've got this incredibly expensive switch yeah coming up and you know you just have to delay until you get to that that army okay so a CCM just spotted the archers and now he's building a tower on his stone yeah and they're both about to click update that's gonna that's gonna put him back quite a bit though mm-hmm yeah if if say my name hadn't gone for the archer choice suddenly a CCM as a castle probably right as he hits Castle leaves yeah yeah no he's gonna have to delay yeah and a CCM is playing super safe too so he's stonewalling this southern side now now here's what I want to bring up and we didn't talk about it before the series I think a CCM is one of the most prepared players in this qualifier he was he was I don't want to say bothering me because it's a good thing but he was messaging me non-stop before we released the maps he was like I want the maps I want the maps and then to date I'd say oh well we'll have them out tomorrow and then there was a delay and he messaged me and said where are the maps like he really wanted to train and also Dave I don't know if you caught this yesterday but that was now viewers this is a spoiler okay I'm gonna spoil who won the set between backs and licks yesterday so Solly was down yeah I was like who is this licks so it's 2017 licks listen to this licks was up 3-1 over backs and a CCM told me on discord he said when backed was three one down he called me and asked for a few strategy tips for the upcoming maps cheater so listen listen and I in Game seven I recalled that a CCM and backed had played ravines and a CCM went for some greedy comer boom that's exactly what back did back to ended up coming back a winning four three so the tips from the team eight-man it paid off a little bit there anyways my point is is he's prepared yeah exactly yeah well I I hope he can get something done but I also hope that say my name can get something done because yeah they're both my boy but say my name is a little bit more yeah so we'll see he's trying to pressure this southern side but acc him walling behind it so I don't really think this is gonna do anything yeah how important were the stone walls though if he didn't stone wall there he would have been completely overwhelmed yep yeah it was a good piece of foresight there I just I I there's a reason that most pros are not going Berbers and Campbell archers though you're seeing it right now there's still no castle for a CCM say my name was able to reach Castle age have a second TC at a third TC and have an army coming for going for camel archers is so incredibly difficult I'm still very surprised that some of these Vietnamese players like to do it I think say my name yeah he's mixing in some camels too because I think he knows the camel archers are coming up yeah so you mix in the camels you have the crossbows and all of a sudden camel archers can't really do any damage to your base a CCM is now going into some nights he actually added a second stable so it's just slow Isis so slow again it's it's a bit weird to add if you want to go for the cheap urbanites commit to it don't also go to snow and heavily because if you commit to it you can get +2 defense you can fight these crossbows it's just he's kind of all over the place but he does have some nights and he's also placing his castle now which is what he wanted well just look at the villager count and look at the military count yes hey my name is Keeling I'm on both counts so I don't use it here comes the castle he's gonna secure the gold he's gonna secure another stone he can take and he's gonna have the camel archers coming up meanwhile he is trying to go in to say my name's base oh the house wall that was a sick house that was sick man that could have been so annoying yeah imagine he just got back in there and started running around the farms and stuff yep would have pulled all that and run me back I'm wondering if there's a siege workshop potential from say my name you know the castles there mm-hmm but like is it worth it to get a Manganiello in the field I think you just play into your strengths a boom right now you know that the Malian tche for all your houses Archie for all that stuff's cheaper he's about to get ballistics too which is super fast so I think you just boom then and then in the mid game you you have to decide what you commit to you know we talked about Malley and crossbows not being all that great or I guess the archer line not being great long-term but what's better verse camel archers in the mid game crossbows with ballistics or camels it's got to be crossbows yeah its crossbows the camels can force the camel arches stay gauge in a fight basically didn't trap them against the crossbows but basically what you're using is the crossbows to kill the camel archers and the crossbows are coming in this left side now yeah I think don't know if they can do damage but they can certainly create some idle time some stress yeah I mean you have the boom lead you're applying pressure as say my name we'll have no complaints about this one that's for sure a CCM is just now adding his third Town Center and he does not have anywhere near the military that he would need to actually fight what say my name has I think what say my name needs to do here is get relics Dave this is obviously going to imp it normally does but you have an eco lead and one way that your opponent can come back is if they get relics and hold on so that's what I'd be thinking about if I were him he's actually got really good scouting Wow on this patch the Auto Scout feature is not in it yeah dude that'd be so funny just to see if using autoscout no I feel like in the main event if we're using that patch which has yet to be announced what we're doing yet that would be hilarious but also like we always used to look and say okay who's going for a hundred percent scouting viper confirmed but now if there's Auto scouting you never know there's got to be a way to figure it out I'm sure we can tell we'll tell it trust me you put on that auto Scout just watch it move around you can tell a robot you can tell ya I think say my name is still adding crossbows I think at this point he needs to start thinking about he's already got the mass he needs like start thinking about what you're gonna transition into I don't think the crossbow is like you said are gonna be super effective and imp yeah that's probably enough to hold back whatever castle a Jeremy a cesium has well here's here's what's interesting I think when you know when you had a fourth TC like a CCM is doing normally that means a much longer Castle age commitment and he's also getting +2 armor on his Knights so with that in mind I think it's probably a good idea to to make a lot of army just to make sure you on your lead oh man yeah I still think with +2 nights you can't fight that there's camels and crossbows there you couldn't fight the crossbows with that army and let alone with the camels they're so ACC I'm gonna have to I think his plan here is just trying to draw this army away yeah get a little bit of his equal rolling and then maybe hit with a counter-attack I guess he say my name is looking for him right now mm-hmm yeah I really like how ACM was able to protect those goals with the town centers though I think that was considering he doesn't have a military force to fight say my name easily that was good maybe a CCM can run in like he tried before and get some pickoffs there is an exposed gold here no villagers there but I've seen both players heading towards the enemy base they're not engaging with their military and that's two villagers picked off they're from say my name well-played is that quite a bit of pressure this game considering a cesium spoon wolde the whole time and oh my goodness did he do it again Dave that gold is there six gold left on that tile he's not paying attention he will mine through that and the Knights get in but now he's sending the camel's back yet great reaction get in through this gate he actually okay running away and trying to wall the Knights in against the camels what's that was beautiful what a play the can the camels even move have they just decided to engage oh this is a disaster for a CCM I mean the Knights will still win that fight if he takes it straight up yeah now the crossbows are coming back Wow wow that's so good though that's amazing all those Knights will go down what what a huge play already has the lead even recognized that the Knights could have run in again and made sure the wall was up and he's on his way to the Imperial age Wow yeah that was sick and he's he added his was that forth TC outside yeah so his boom is even better than AC seems at the moment he's up to Imperial age faster he has a better military let's just hope he's gonna place a castle near that maggin oh oh god dude okay this this is when he's most vulnerable right a CCM is flooding Knights like I said extended Castle aged Berbers are so good with that with the chief Knights I think you cannot place a castle there I think you need to back up yeah I think he took the foundation away and he's just making stables at his face okay okay I'm too nervous man that's like that's the number one way to throw a game from a winning position yep is an aggressive castle that people laugh and they think doubt but no doubt doesn't when doubts winning he doesn't he doesn't do that because nobody's losing yeah oh dude this is this is still a bit dangerous that's a lot of crossbows on the hill just needs to avoid the bangl good microts so far yeah quality micro this is stuff man he wants a few crossbows but I think with the MA Oh another hit this Maggie don't say hero though why aren't the camels and knights going after is my question that's really what he should have done take that out with your camels here and don't don't allow him to get another shot there you go and now you're an imp there's still some momentum issues like what is he going to commit to it looks like camel over any Archer upgrades but now say my name needs to get a big fight man he needs to engage he needs to buy himself a whole lot of time can he do so with these Knights I think he has to run from the Knights but luckily he's got the castle right there he's not even like researching any technologies weird now yeah yeah like what what is he waiting for like he doesn't know he does have resources to at least get heavy camel yeah say a CCM needs to pay attention to his units because there's a few times sometimes it's just the reality de units freeze up a little bit when you're running away and you got to pay attention to that because that's Weiss now his units he just didn't click them at twice unfortunate but what is say my name what is yello doing like he's making one TREB but no texts are coming in here like why not and the Knights are going to the right side and he says yes oh no that you're right Dave okay now he's getting heavy camel now he's producing some camels but something went wrong there he just took his foot off the gas completely after arriving to the imperial age yeah he wasn't even producing camels yeah I can understand producing and not researching yeah heavy camel but luckily for him this castle is gonna go up the Knights didn't do too much damage and he's actually Trebek the forward castle from a CCM yeah fortunately he was in a position to take his foot off the gas he was ahead already yeah and he's protected I like how he's protecting the trips he probably needs to get something more than just the crossbows there since the crossbows the crossbows won't be enough against a lot of knights and heat there he go sending the camels there I like it I'd love to see it like a villager come / and build some gates around them or something yeah some sort of fortification around the treads and you can repair them when the Knights coming cuz they will come in eventually so it's worth mentioning one relic for say my name - for a CCM but there are two very close to say my name space but AC seems kind of snag one so a CCM well actually after the lack of map control that he had in castle II have more relics assuming that gets back to his base it was it was a good play from him to flood Knights yes stay in Castle aged a little bit longer just to push back say my name because if say my name had gotten a castle up on that hill mm-hmm which he would have a a CCM didn't flood nights then a cesium would be looking at a completely different situation a CCM would like to make a counter tread from that castle and the castle goes down so I stopped preparing that one I wonder how this fight will go though Dave because you're looking at heavy camels counter to Cavalier but with way less upgrades the a CCM will have cavalier more numbers full armor and plus - and there's no attack upgrades on the heavy camels furred for say my name thinking about it he's coming in okay now they're kind of back again to talk because it's not an easy choke to to fight in and the stones Dave you mentioned it earlier that stones exposed so if he can't take that stone good luck getting more castles oh here he comes I think say my name wins this fight here so as well engages with the camels yeah as full armor now also the choke the crossbows are helping a little bit what is this engagement for a CCM why did he even run this way maybe you're trying to pull it off the army so he could attack from the left and kill the tribes and he's trying here he could go in and snipe the tribes maybe delay things a bit don't go for the crossbows was that a patrol that went wrong there what happened take out those Treve Shea's man he's not going for the trebs at all I mean they are just revving a house so maybe he's going for the army I did get a few Cavalier rights though yeah like he's losing all his Cavalier in that ball now he's got a fall my god like on the right side he just got four in became in Dave forensic came in and I didn't expected to be coming in I don't think a CCM did either so he didn't kill any trebuchet 'he's the the raid within this base will be short-lived and there's just army everywhere for say my name and with forever camels are actually an extremely good rating unit yeah seven plus six and iron casting is coming in right now - these are some beefy camels and that's a beefy castle that's about to go down to a museum space this is what we said at the start if it gets to post em technologies we prefer Malians and and Berbers mid-game that's the only way this makes sense for them but I feel like we saw what the Berbers mid-game can offer and it wasn't quite enough was the castle a mistake should a CCM I've just committed to full night so we'll see but this is some crazy pressure from say my name who is the what's the seat seat 11 against seed six monastery is gonna go down the relics are gonna pop out yeah there's nothing you can do against these camera you can't fight that no you can oh yeah that's it but like yours don't have Plus exactly uh they're cheaper Wow and so it could be five relics for say my name soon oh by the way say my name notices that a CCMS on this gold and you sent a light cab that man this guy is all over the place you know so like have that like has been sitting there the entire game because there was a wolf there so sit right next to the wolf waiting for the villagers to come the wolf attack to the light cab killed it yeah now it's gonna rape no hero no woo woo yeah no move for you and I think no win for a CCM yeah that's incredible these camels Malians insane and say my name wins game number one the vietnamese showdown first game goes to him I have to say Dave when I think back about this game and the Berber pick I just it still doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me if you want to take advantage of the Berber strengths I think instead of going for the stone all you just go to Castle age and you flood Knights and camels right away yep and I think maybe the archer choice producing them that early caught him off-guard have you build that tower really set them back that sir could set him back like two minutes he could have had camel archers on the field hitting yellow and keeping him at home but instead he had to kind of go half and half he went half like into the castle and then half into the stable production he didn't do even the same orifice yeah he didn't make any camel archers yeah there he's got the castle up being like early castle age regardless so behind from the beginning yeah this is what's fascinating about hidden sieve with Aztecs and Mayans banned like what do you pick on Arabia and so maybe it's also difficult to know what to expect and when he saw he was up against Malians you just didn't know what to go for there but like I had said during that cast a CCM is very prepared I know he has home maps I know he's ready to go today just one last thing guys I'll show you the achievements they say my name with more kills more food wood stone collected he was just behind in gold which I'm sure he would have had so home maps we didn't talk too much about we we restructured this on our screens for the viewers at home game ones Arabia Game four in Game seven are in order there those are set Maps but for the next game we go for a CCMS home map choice he has islands Dave he has hideouts and he has cup could be any of those for the next game what would you go for in his position do you like you've seen on his stream uh he's a good water player so it doesn't surprise me he chose sorry I need to adjust this year it doesn't surprise me he went for the islands pick so maybe you just go for islands try and get him omentum swing and take it from there yeah maybe I yeah I don't really see say my name playing that many water maps in general oh my god seen him playing like mega random but alright you ready let's hop into game number two I was slightly spoilered here because they're the wrecks to show the SIVs guys welcome to game number two it is on hideout not a water map and a CCM has gone for cumin Wow so cumin boom then is that is that the plan fast futile into a cumin boom and say my name Britten's Dave mm-hmm you can with cuman's you can even afford to like fast feudal boom and then send a few villagers forward maybe has some shenanigans as well yeah if you see exposed resources it's a really like it's a really stable build I'd say mm-hmm so I think if say my name sees that a CCM has picked humans this is pretty much what you expect here humans are the only civilization to be able to build a second TC in the feudal age it is probably their strongest bonus I we've seen the steppe lancers get nerve the Kip checks are kind of underwhelming but they still have paladin they still have strong options to go for but it it's mainly the eco so I expect 20 population maybe even earlier than that feudal age into a second Town Center and if you're if you're in yellows position Dave what do you do against that do you go all in pressure or do you just do your thing as Britons you could just if you know that's happening why not just go FC and then get those Brittain cheap t C's down that's what I'm thinking too yeah so yeah like what wins in the end you know yeah obviously the cumin z' get more villagers in feudal age but then they're in feudal age and Britain's having cheap TCS I honestly don't think this changes the game plan for say my name too much you can still go maybe one range crossbows with a boom with Britain's apply some type of pressure the only thing you want to avoid is trying to go like half and half you know that's true even the one range crossbows kind of makes me a bit nervous here because I'm gonna fall so far behind if none of his resurrect depends on where it is resource yeah yeah I feel like if you're going for boom you might as well just go for boom I think the the one negative thing there is Britons it's so important to them to start massing their archers early and keep that number up so if you do commit to the boom and then you start producing your archers at the time that the cumin guy starts producing their Knights then the Knights are gonna be better in lower numbers but this is interesting man I I said he was prepared knighted said he was practicing but I was not expecting to see this from a CCM it was funny it last night I was watching a yellow stream yeah and he was playing hideout and he actually went he went Qamar really forward villagers into a tower rush but he built the stable because you don't have to build the barracks right so uh forward stable so it's like tower rush Scouts with c'mere okay interesting all right I know it's a really weird like I hadn't seen anything like that I already I've seen in the qualifiers I think the diversity the map pull has a lot to do with it because we have five Maps they're never played but it's so cool to me to see how many different players prefer different strats notably the Vietnamese players we we mentioned how ACC em like tumor on ravines who's the first person I know backs did that use the first person we do that and the qualifier all of them are picking Berbers it's it's cool to see that's how the game should be you know it shouldn't be always the sieve always Britain's all the time says the guy that loves 1v1 hunt Shh I like because it's fun all right I like because it's fun not because it's the best aid mmm I love that what sim should I practice with hugs always honey yes practice with puns yeah listen all of your lines all you need to be a good player is play over 3,000 hun wars you could also play over 3,000 of anything and improvement this or is trolling yellow so hard really he's got half the HP off the boar already just from shooting it with one so Dave you know what I was thinking about this morning as I was having my morning blue coffee what if your expect like Bryn's is a pretty oh my god dude this board the board is like it's the worst it's actually the worst it deserves to die so if Britain's is a common pick on hideout which I'd say it is and we end up playing it doesn't even matter the balance let's just say we play the the current balance of a plane with of this patch do you think anyone in hidden Cup 3 will pick Goths do you think we're gonna see that at any point you know what hideout you can almost get away with Gus yeah exactly like as just a street counter pick do you like NBL would do it yeah but the problem with MBL and we've said this before is MBL loses like through e ke lo when the tournament is pixiv like he needs to just be told what symptom a when the the less mine games the better for NB a-- yeah yeah well we're listen Dave and I just have a bit of PTSD because MBL in hidden Cup one finals chose Goths went home Arabia yeah I chose Goths on Arabia and Goths on a map like this like they've said you can kind of get away with it we are going to see a second TC by the way but yeah that that kind of broke our hearts there because he was playing so good in that series well it's kind of like what tips can't you get away with it yes Goths and are they likely to pick that sieve new God like yes sorry go ahead yeah Britain's mines you could get away with it and they're fairly maybe not Mayans on a hideout but well the new godly likely that we shouldn't spend too much time talking about this because this isn't the balance we're playing the qualifiers with but if the main event is played with new Goths it was an absolute mistake from forgotten empires to give Goths a 35% discount in Dark Age it should have been something else because it's nuts what you can do with them so it's very realistic in the main event we'll see a lot of Goths if we play with that balance Dave I don't like a CC M's town center I think if you're going for the second TC delete some of those palisade walls and build the TC on the other side to protect the goal yes protect it especially against Britons think you know the crossbows are gonna come in right yeah you want on the outside so that you can't range your gold villagers safely whereas from whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa how he's already in futile what what is say my name Dave is go he's gone archers double double double range you said you said commit and we thought he whom but he's committing oh cool archers don't commit to archers do it third range that's what I want to see commit I think you should probably go for a blacksmith first so we can get fletching but so full boom first full archers the plan but if say my name doesn't do a significant amount of damage I feel like a CCM will love this and he's also gone to stone at home so he could build towers if need be smart smart move yeah if he gets the tower up on that stone like weirdest yellow pressure bust into his base where does he pressure heeds down him a favor like you said by putting the TC on the other side of that gold yeah and tower and easily I I just I'm curious to see how this goes but I really disagree with going futile age because you put yourself in the position where you have to kill fast on a map with walls and if you don't kill then you see the veil difference already it's 31 for a CCM that's just gonna continue to grow we'll see man but maybe ACCME hasn't scouted it I noticed that much he figures this is a fast castle just a very early up time he is not seeing the ranges at all so I guess the best thing say my name is done for himself is hide the ranges well he can probably see on the score though maybe what's happening yeah he doesn't seem to be looking for it and he he hasn't pre towered so I'm I'm not so sure just like where do you get in where can you consistently get in here maybe on the right side of his face but even if you do that yeah the walls behind that wall behind it yeah I mean he to be fair if you get map control around his face and he's stuck in here then you can pressure more yeah age but the Ville difference is just gonna be huge yes yeah I don't think a CCM knew about this day because that tower is not the best tower what are you doing that is a low a low legend tower but it's a reaction to the pressure coming in if he knew it was coming I think he towers in front of it slightly and he's good he's still gonna be ok his Villa leads going to be maintained he can still take the stone but at least that's something for say my name still producing archers constantly yeah you know like let's go ok so say my name's castle time is going to be way slower than you would have if you went fast fast but his archer numbers are going to be three times as high so he'll have way more archers when he does eventually get to Castle age so what do you do with your economy if you're a CCM is it nice here is it Kip checks I think it's got to be like siege workshop no well yeah I mean I'm just thinking what are you building up towards yes you have the economy but still not sure what a CCM I'll actually want to go with here this is some good pressure forcing another tower he's forced a lot out of them yeah but Syl I mean he's up by what thirteen villagers okay I don't that means nothing yeah but this is also a map that involves a lot of map control and and positioning if say my name ever falls behind he could just Stonewall to the edge of the map yup and keep all the pressure away and we know don't wall right in front of AC seems base because he could wall him in yeah he's got all that maybe that's the plate maybe that is the player you would be so excited I can I really hope that happens just so I can hear Dave's excitement when the villagers come forward to wall all a man wall oh man this is definitely one of those situations where I can hear the youtube comment now from someone why why isn't he walling him in it makes a whole lot of sense sometimes pro players are so stupid why don't they just wall them in well in this case I feel like walling in the actual base is silly but walling the sides is not yeah sewing the sides is something you should be doing and if he can pick off that scout from ACC him that would be huge - mm-hmm I see a CC I'm going for barracks so he's probably gonna go stable yeah it's gotta be good coming in now alright Dave so a CCM is halfway to Castle age 53 villagers against 38 that's that's a huge difference he will definitely have the economy to go four plus two in a few nights however say my name is just clicked up and he has 19 archers on the field so I mean that will probably turn into 25 or 30 by the time he's in Castle age he could still go for cheap too she's behind it he'll be way behind an economy but can you kill that many crossbows double stable you get the knight armor you get enough knight so you can catch him and then suddenly you're eco looks a lot better in East waling say my name is walling on the right hand side and he sent two villagers cuz he knows about the wolves yeah he knows about the wolves I also think he knows there's a scout out there that Scout can play a role now that a CCM is going to be going Knights to scout to be upgraded to or discount rather the Scout is coming back oh no [Music] you're still looking at 15 HP 21 HP if he gets plus 2 you can do it for sure yeah more than anything I think a CCM scouting the relics and now say my name's doing the wise move to run back it does kind of bother me he hasn't walled the left as well but I can understand that he probably wants to save stone for Town Center's that's a gut it's going to be a lot of archers you have to micro and you still are behind by 20 bills like oh that's so big but he sells me out on the right quick walled it out ok that wall is gonna go up for sure and then he's only got a focus that that's really good for him because when you're playing archers you don't want to split your forces through and let them all in one place yeah so I just wanna to go back to what we were talking about in Dark Age I still feel like if say my name goes for fast castle with one range he'd be in cat he would have been in castle aged six minutes ago and on a second TC at the very least he wouldn't have 27 crossbows but I think they wouldn't be down by however many villagers he's down right now that's a huge difference so these crossbows have to pay off now and these are cumin Knights with extra speed there will also be some seeds behind it this could be dangerous for say my name well he's about to get ballistics here and he's actually dropping 3rd TC now getting some monk so snag the relics convert the Knights maybe yeah but manga knows and Knights from a CCM and he's got a much better economy behind it so yeah and only time will tell yeah and with a CCMS position you actually don't need to push it's now it's now yellow who needs to push so he's adding those TCS it's good you're looking at 43 to 67 so I think the cumin 's have definitely paid off here it could be a realistic counselor to the britons at least that the Britons are played the way that say my name is decided to play them look at that villager difference crazy oh my god nice 24 yeah I think and I have this is just game sense if you could call it that I think if you go for the FC one range you're looking at about 15 crossbows right now and you probably are down by still 15 or 10 bills obviously depends but ok counter siege now and I also like that yellow has added some monks to maybe get some conversions because if you get one that night could just turn around and attack the siege at a CCM has no mag Annelle coming out from say my name so just building the siege workshop yeah leaving it there no gold yet oh that's a ballistics though oh man fight for him it's a real good fight for him Wow keep those numbers up in theory Dave you can be behind 20 bills but if you end up having 40 plus range students as Britain's you can fight anything well not anything but take most fights in Castle age certainly and he's getting the relics like he's got those two on the side for free is he patrolling at the one in the middle okay he noticed it he's got Britain range he's fine this isn't coming out dangerous for both players though yeah hunkies out there you know what I'm seeing a lot of here have you been watching a CCM stream recently and noticing some lag I've been noticing lag when he plays I have not seen units freeze like I've seen a CCMS units freeze today and I wasn't sure if it was just when he was streaming or what but that's a couple times he just makes a normal movement and I don't even necessarily want to say thanks to e on that I I genuinely believe he might be having some issues there maybe cuz it my name okay I like he's gonna catch up here he's just got a hold him back until his eco catches up and maybe trying snowball mm-hmm Dave imagine if he would have Stonewall feared these Knights wouldn't be bothering him the way they are yeah he has to run easy send his army back to deal with this because he doesn't have walls that really could hurt especially with a player like a CCM he knows how to use mobility a CCM that's just a monk you didn't know the crossbows were there wow that's a bad fight his Knights have not done anything for him in this series there's another one gonna get converted here looks like it has to be right that's how was it monks are so stupid too fast no it's too slow yeah alright and now that monk definitely what that's actually that's actually good I think say my name will not complain about that cuz he killed that many nights he's got another monk right over there I could just get the relic relics oh yeah another TC here from a CCM forward this time on that gold that's another position where it's like you want a TC there wait I'm sorry a CCM you said right oh yeah that goes I think he wants to go he wants to go for a mega boom into paladin for sure I think I think he'll actually stop night production for now ladies he might make like five ten more and then go for Cavalier and then fast paladin I think this is everything about this reminds me of vivvy if this was hidden cup and we didn't know who the players were I would think maybe to pick who wins here and and go for this type of a play and yellow needs to recognize okay barracks at the front good needs to recognize that's the play from a CCM is already getting a barracks prep for help and how in a choke point with Britain archers yep do pretty good against against paladin I love how a CC I was trying to break the gate on the right side has the hill there's also a wolf attacking night he only needs 103 more hits but he'll kill the night so you know what that reminds me of oh wait hold on a second do not put that castle there my friend whoo that's a good shot considering the situation but don't fight this don't fight this should he be fighting this Dave he's got he's got it from behind yeah he's got it he surrounds that's a great fight actually wasn't sure at the start cuz when you see those Britain cross was hitting and running but they just froze up but they didn't run back they didn't have any support either that's so bad because it was say my name who had the numbers now it's a CCM and a CCM already has Cavalier on the way I think he took that fight knowing that he had three stables there to reenact that's probably a lot of more Knights came in and yeah the game over for the Cross was there and now the mass is gone he does have pikemen but yeah there's no blood coming in he doesn't really have the numbers that he needs or the upgrades on the Pyke's and that was the one thing we talked about say my name's behind an eco he needs numbers he also can't fight mobility so a CCM is coming back and he's going to hit the north mean that I just expected there to be blue running circles around say my name now yeah coming at him from both sides luckily for him his base is pretty secure at the moment yeah for the most part a CCM has been tossing away units all games so maybe he'll toss these ones as well in front the stableboy and is crazy from from ACC Oh in the castle positions perfect to because initially I don't love that tread because it is a bit exposed but most of the army for say my name just chased down these Cavalier and without how without the upgrades on the Pyke's died he died and now you have a castle to secure the traps this could be a very very quick ending to the game here in him because there's two traps now for a CCM he just won't stop production this is crazy that's what you get with the early boom right yeah get your villager count up get your Sables down and he's got six tables pumping Cavaliere at the moment yeah and I really thought that he would stop pumping units and go for fast paladin but he saw an opportunity he knew that say my name was vulnerable after losing those cross posts and he's pushing at home right now this is great I mean there's gold there that needs to be secured the barracks are also there so the barracks could actually get trapped down next this is very cavalier at that scoff and the villager battering down the gate at the right so she gets through six tables in the back - and the starting scalp that's amazing yeah don't ask me how they don't get caught on fire they're just Age of Empires two things oh man I felt like there was opportunity for say my name but this account a CCM okay I got a bit sloppy but this boom this this boom and cumin has done so much a CCM doesn't have the res for like anything still hasn't gotten the herbalist upgrade like still hasn't gotten bracer it's just gone full help here yeah I still I guess you meant to say my name there I think a CCM has to be careful with his cavalier what's interesting about Cummins is they're skirmishers are pretty trashed because they lack racer but it's something go for battering ram Oh Yello why is he going for an I guess the theory is that the Cavaliers have to engage against the Rams and you can have the halberdiers they're okay skirmishers won't be able to do any damage to them yeah I mean normally you see Rams against ranged units not mainly women they're gonna force they're gonna force the fight so if the Rams go towards the trebs yeah not if like the halberdiers and Dave there's a lot of helps coming out here and and honestly it's more about - helps vers Cavalier than it is the ARBs at this point because he doesn't they're not even armed yet they're still crossbow he hasn't gone for bracer so if it's full help for Britain's and cumin don't have the best counter to that because they're skirmishers suck maybe there is some potential the whole deer yeah the problem is gonna be that say my name is stuck in this location again take that gold there and the villager got in and now there's stables in the other side yeah I could see some massive raiding coming in soon well I just think is as long as a CCM does that Dave and holds this position it almost seems inevitable now you look at the score lead the score tells you an awful lot about the eco and the upgrades again disease Cavalier freeze man I don't even think that's a de thing I wear it's a combo of de and a CCM situation but the barracks are getting taken out slowly but surely all the houses are dead now yep I think a CCM with the cumin boom oh we got some Kip checks now at Kip checks will certainly help I think it looks like a CCM will pull in game number two what an interesting game I did not expect humans at all I mean it worked to perfection I think yeah I think yellow played that incorrectly but yeah like going futile archers just gives your opponent a twenty Vil lead if you go fast castle one range or or just fast castle boom that was the alternative with the cheaper and TCS maybe you're not so far far behind an eco but also Dave even with the fuel age play and being behind twenty villagers he should never have lost his crossbows I don't know he took a bad fight there yeah and to be fair to him we both thought it was an OK fight to start yeah you're like you're like a cesium don't do this cleared up all of the crossbow yeah it's free basically it's like I feel like the best way to read fights is to play the game for a consistent amount of time and then just get a feel for it I don't think that I have the feel yet for some engagements in de I don't know if players are the same way but I think it's weird you think it's just a bit different right like you think that you can maybe micro more than you can in some situations I'm not sure but food wood stone and gold collected a CCM way ahead there it is tied up and we're moving on now to want to say my name's home maps alright well this is exactly what we expected from the series we expected it to be close I think I said a CCM for three and you said say my name for three yep so we expected seven games the home map said with Eric guys I probably should show this scene more this shows all the maps in a little bit more detail if you haven't been watching the early stages of the qualifiers but one of the home maps that interests me the most here is probably what we'll see next whoops that is not opes alright well you already saw it spoilers it's El Dorado you ready Dave let's go the recorded game says which one it is so let's do it I went to the wrong scene and El Dorado so I guess I'll say this because this is still new to the El Dorado map instead of having three Marlins with 350 food we decided against that because it would cause some bugs so we have two Marlins with 525 food Dave so the Marlins have a lot more food than they would normally have you have deer you have one bore you have turkeys and you have water on the outer edge and then you only have two tiles of gold two tiles of stone next to your base the rest is going to be in the center which is always visible Oh scorpion how many times have you seen this game through there this map through the qualifiers two times as did they pick Indians or is China like so there is an interesting set where it was licks first backed licks globally banned Chinese and then he saved Indians for this so we've seen if Chinese are available I think Chinese is the clear pick but we have seen some players globally ban it also a lot of players just flat-out banning the map so yeah Chinese or Indians Mayans beat Indians in the set I was referencing so I think mezzo sibs are always strong Vikings is chosen in the past I would go Chinese for sure I love how close a CCM is to the water it's like one of those pools near the ocean you know they just like it's like right there but you're in a pool yeah III know layered of sharks yeah this is this is a good spot this is a good spot to be in a little vacay spot I would love if he could like run his ships over that land I know I can't now you can I mean I hope he can because otherwise that's a big balance issue with the fishing ships under the TC or fire I just imagining fire ships coming in and and hitting the town center but Woodman is is Malay the play here where you can fish trap your little pond around your TC okay imagine a world where let's say 1 players Aztecs and they get control of the middle yeah all the way players just takes harbors all around hey yeah a sick Blair can't win and then fish traps and makes two-handed swordsman yeah the Aztec player would lose that would be a dream scenario I guess no we have very different definition you're looking down the barrel of another like five hour game hmm but that that is we're not gonna see that here but one player is going to secure the middle on this map and when that happens it is extremely important that the other player expands food in woody ko hidden Cup - man how good was that game as Robin Hood verse was it until uh I know it was I know what isn't that MBL no it was it was it was Viper verse vivvy I remember but I forget what Vivi's name was we thought it was Viper at the time but we didn't think was vivvy anyways what happened there was vivvy took control of the middle with Incas and went full Eagles I think Viper had like 170 villagers yeah it was just like I'm in like half yeah Genghis Khan Genghis Khan thank you fat dragons God he knows all about Vivi's so well we'll see both players are pretty far from the middle and again you can see when someone runs out there oh that was a bit sloppy from say my name though almost losing his Scout to the town center it's a big walls here from a CCM like real big walls and early too yeah alright so say my name is docked a little bit further away from his town center you'll normally see what I what I'm expecting here is futile age and then two docks but it's not like you can treat this like islands where you can go extremely aggressive on water because these chokes are so easy to defend so it was actually dill gal who made me think about this when I saw him play he'll go to docks and add like for extra fishing ships Dave and then make Navy because he knows how easy it is to defend it just no point there's no point you can just go right in there try and snipe their fish and then they've got their production buildings yeah where your army is so by the time you get reinforcements you're never gonna win the fight yeah go fish and defend ICAC cm has been taking the shore fish so bit of extra food for him there I guess being closer to the water helps in some ways you are then further from the middle though so it's hard to say dude a CCM just cuz you're Chinese you don't have to build the Great Wall you really don't like look at this thing man we're eight minutes in this is this is one of those walls happy happy that's what this is Dave this is one of those walls where there just has to be a hole like the player spends the whole game walling and then there's a hole I just I just have a feeling like let's hope he clicks a villager out outside of this yeah and even if he gets this whole thing up see that one area by the shoreline like any Navy can kill that Palisades so quickly that's true yeah right there and get people inside yeah well completely different strategies with the same civilization then and one player looks to be going fast castle and then maybe to canoe because AC seems on stone and then say my name is is he going for a second doc yes Dave so he's going for a doc and I mentioned making fire galleys is a bit of a risk but here I think it makes sense because you can punish your opponent for being so greedy so it I've been happy with the amount of mirror matchups that we've seen that have not played out in a mirror fashion if that makes sense yep and Chinese are probably one of the best mirror matchups for a map like this because they can do everything they can take and choose to go land or water Wow salmon a didn't see ok saw some walls form a cesium but like he hasn't seen the big stretches of walls so he doesn't know yet he has to assume though if he saw the walls on the left side and just the facts he's thinking about it now ACC I'm still in Dark Age is it going to hit futile is he going to hit futile okay at this point with this many walls you probably assume it's fast castle now what do you do do you add to fires and then fish boom yourself I really wonder what the play is here a CCM is waiting but that's gout - waiting till he gets the villager is there he saw it before that's so smart where's she going he's gonna see her she wants I think this is - he didn't see her it seemed like he was looking for her so maybe not yeah cuz he saw the house maybe he'll come back now yeah you won't go that far for whoa cuz he already looked over there Dave look inside the dock of a CCM in the south is this LAN he's making a transport ship for that villager what that's intentional you mean wait so you mean yellow Syd I meant out wrong person sorry yes so my name's I'm so confused oh he found the villager ready she was built like a dog yeah sorry it got the wrong person there slam did this which I assumed was a Miss click does he want to get in transport to save the villager no just goes right by but but so no he's lost the villager yeah obviously cm has seen the transport ship and there's nothing to put in the trance I don't is it what is it going are you going to send your weeks gal like this transport ship doesn't make any sense what I don't understand why that transport ship was made Dave and now the Scout goes now there's literally nothing to put inside that title ship yeah well listen you probably missed it but when slam lost in round one he made it he made a fish trap early futile when there was plenty of deep fish and he also made a transport ship so that's what it reminded me of there that was just weird I imagine it was probably a miss click then right because there's no reason for it even if the villager did survive he's going range scout he's going double range scout he's not going up 860m is already on the way to castle age and he hasn't taken out any fishing ships and he's got that transport ship and a CCM knows about the transport ship this is not this is no bueno yeah sorry we're we're limited here we don't know how to say not good in Vietnamese so we just went with no bueno oh yeah you go full futile now I I guess I mean the transport ships on the way back I'm really fascinated how that's going to be used because the scouts are Dave don't tell me he's sending the transport all the way around to the right and his scouts are gonna wait there for it yep that's gonna take forever that's fine it's in the middle right now so it takes forever either way it's going send it to the left and then back to the right what yeah now like the part where it just zoomed right past as a ledger that was fighting let's go yep just let her die all Dave this is such a nice trap for me to see him watch this watch this choke demo oh good reaction though he's right on top of that you knew that was coming still can't actually do Scout dies at the top the transport ship is in the right corner I have I have so many questions Oh could someone call like make-a-wish Foundation again one of these Scouts in that base please oh man and now with just an easy castle for a CCM in the center this is is say my name either was not prepared or he was surprised to see what a CCM had gone for and now a CCM did the smart thing and he's probably over ties in water and and castle aged navy can destroy fish and ships quickly and push through chokes he's still not up he's still not all fishing ships are not as efficient as a CCMS he hasn't read opted the back there another Scout died to a random Spearman so and now his Navy is up against upgraded fires I think he could push this back but it's only a matter of time how demoralize the fire the fire is gonna find the transport ship probably there's one fire yeah going to the right well I've had as you know Tristan I've had many strategies fall apart on me over my years as this one should be pretty demoralizing for yellow oh it's super demoralizing too because you could see him building the castle in the center and you can't do anything about it and the TC no to me all you can do is pressure his face if the archers get in this isn't going to be the easy situation for saying my name actually think about this his gold and his stone is there now obviously he has resources in the center to take now it doesn't have stone for a counter tower either so he's just gonna have to abandon all of this oh actually you're right look at this he's gonna have to run yeah and the chicken who won't be in time is hoping he can hit like yellow space or something at the same time pull the army back maybe a CCM hey CCM hello attack noise ding-ding-ding Wow two vittles right okay so we'll be three bills in the end and the chicken who died archers what where what you think I'm sending the two canoe to yellow my boy let's go and he still is the transport ship don't forget about that that could actually matter if he's the fifth you can do that goes down dude how did he lose where are all the dead chicken oh you're talking about I see one on the hill yeah they bodies don't last very long but there were five of them he's sent in there well now he has the middle he has fishing ships and his villa on the run it's gonna be in the north in the middle in the north the fishery huge that's huge though he's not even up to Kathleen she's doing so much damage yeah what on earth is happening this is I have to say not at all what you would have expected from this say my name is just gonna camp his face and a CCM is gonna camp the middle I like the way this game is developing this is very interesting interesting game we've got oh man where does they see Sam go in his face look it's villagers are playing like musical chairs yeah guilty see musical trees now I guess the stragglers I love how say my name is but the scouts are there he sees it yeah well once those trees are gone that's a couple hundred wood there's no there's nothing to do lame regular trees now is that not now you can't say that that tree will be chopped but he probably has boa sauce so it's like gone already oh my god and Dave say my name he it did struggle because he lost fish and chips but he invested into a crap ton of farms so who needs water now you're on your way to Castle age there is some potential here and say my name has stone so he could build his own castle I mean where does this game go from here this is ridiculous yeah just don't let those two canoe in to do damage don't do it and fix your idle situation and also do you remember there were five fishing ships in the North a moment ago for a CCM yeah well there's one yeah there's one remaining so I kind of assumed that he might save them but no Archer aid coming into the middle that's like the only wood line that he's on right now that's his wood this is woody go right there yeah and now a tower in defense you're in Castle age against someone in feudal age and you have to build the tower and well the TC can range those archers so but yeah okay at least the qu canoer here but still you're looking at chu canoe without fletching Dave he is such a bad eco balanced double tower defense from say my name against the Chu canoe coming in from a CCM and I think he's gonna relocate to the north side it's a bit safer there I'd also like to see him keep some archers inside a CCM space yeah that's true instead of leaving I think keeping the archers there would have made more sense yeah but okay here's my question where do you castle if you're saying my name you castle - I think he sold some of his stone he's exactly 650 well you know on the right there's too much stuff he has to he has to defend from these two canoe that are coming in so that's why he doesn't have stone he built towers I think you can oh my god oh my god oh whoa dude get go for it man get it get it I don't think it can be stopped it can be stopped with a tower but a CCM okay there's one tower of archers there just get the crossbow and get get bawd kid like right now yeah I need it no a tower can't stop this money neither neither of them they don't have the economy for their upgrades at this point so it's gots curves - interesting I think the key here is there are more fishing ships for a CCM so he actually has food income but that castles going up so I feel like now I say my name can take the gold and a CCM cans yep he can't even take his wood line Mookie's got to relocate that you know now do you go once you're in this position are you going 1t c and then amp as fast as possible to push him off the middle if you're say my name Dave I have no friggin clue so where's the food gonna come from he does have the farms but he's not taking from them I think I think the water is just such a huge factor here so maybe I see say my name's thing talking about it but yeah he doesn't have DAF so it's not worth it to rebuild docks I think you try and go 1 TC imp yeah 1 TC import ribs just pressure with the crossbows for now being produced right now Oh buddy you better stay away from that choke point it obviously looks like saying my name is committing pretty deep in the castle age because he's going for another town centre okay I mean say my name cannot lose his crossbows he cannot lose them so he he then can't micro this he needs to leave and maybe get his own truck up don't tell me he's gonna try like a castle eh push against this castle I see a siege workshop coming down I think that's the worst possible play he can't do it if there's mag Anil's out yeah if you have to canoe - yes this is a good fight though crossbows against you can I'll take this any day it's a good engagement and I guess a CCM figured it'd be better for him these crossbows do have vodka narrow mm-hmm what a weird game it I felt like it was over when I saw the transport redock from yellow and micro side from yellow on the hill but he bails and yeah the docking smart it's either Ram push center or you have to go on water and take those fishing ships out because if you take the fishing ships out I guess now there is some farming eco for a CCM but it's the food eco that he's lacking the most right now hmm Dave so I just want to point out that there's no stone accessible for say my name whatsoever a CCM does have that one tile that's and maybe these other tiles you can reach without being hit by the castle so I I think considering the villager lead considering the military is even a CCM is in the driver's seat right now but this is not it's not like this isn't winnable for say my name is totally winnable for him both very similar in terms of the resource situation right now - I don't see either player really banking to go to em yeah well okay so say my name it chose to run forward but because he scouted that the hole was still there so he's sending his Kosmos if you're going in here go towards the TC first don't go to the left-hand side cut off that hole yeah economy over there but Dave had them come through you at the same time he has to give up like ten of his own farms because of the pressure from a CCM so who's gonna be better off here at least say my name save dis villagers a CCM you got a notice this bud oh man and like he says if he gets if he runs towards the town center then the villagers on the Left have to flee that direction they really have nowhere to go this is still a very much an open game this is ridiculous you think eight CCM would have learned the first time and shut that down over there don't worry wall right yeah you have that stone right he could have stonewalled it all just wait their villagers are running right into the crossbows oh my goodness Dave the villagers are going down and fishing ships for a CCM will go down in the north this could even out the game yep why while all the fish are gonna go down the villagers look at the difference there's only a six villager difference this is crazy oh oh there's a mega knoll near AC seems to canoe - okay he's moving them away yellow has a manga note to support he's pushed them up all of those farms that's so nuts and I think crossbows you're gonna prefer the crossbows over the to canoe here correct with the micro yep oh oh why micro and range rip oh no dude say my name is coming back in this game a CCM does not know how to deal with the pressure this is unreal and if he holds this he'll if he gets a good engagement here there will be very little golden stone that a CCM can take in the center this is an amazing Eldorado game I like Tao say my name dealt with the raid from ACC I'm a CCM went all the way around his base with the chu canoe in the manga no yeah he like preemptively pulled villagers away he's got the towers here you compare that to the way ACC undefended yeah Wow it's night day right good manga no micro - oh my goodness that's a low HP mag Annelle this is crazy guys slightly more villagers for a CCM but he does not have the defense he needs the same could be said though I mean the ranges are slowly going down for say my name and now we have a ram plush from a CCM with no military support whatsoever what is happening here Dave that ramp there's no universe in which that works done well the bills can't attack because the castle fire I think it could work watch the manga don't come out the mega Knowles gonna come out from say my name he's gonna clear up the choo canoe in the back he's got fishing ships coming out now I had to say this works it's gonna be super close I think he's gonna run out of stone say my name hasn't been mining stone so he can't repair there's the maghen l you're right it's very risky and rarely does it work but will the castle fire be enough okay he just bought more stone man he had a hundred and eighty eight gold if he didn't have enough gold to buy it there I think the castle would dropped say my name could hold this now he's still my crowing everywhere else this is ridiculous it's just so expensive and look so risky to do that he's out of stone he doesn't have gold to buy he doesn't have gold to buy this works he just bought more he just bought more will the castle stay up it will stay up Dave he sold 500 wood to get the gold to then buy stone there and that castle stands for say my name but that was so damn close I'll tell you what say my name he lost a lot of villagers there and he still you know what the castle first say my name is still shooting his castle so he still will have to deal with that he also say my name lost his Rangers in the process and say my name can't really push that hill so I think all things considered that was very worth it for a CCM oh my god I like how it's like there's no world in which this works there was a world yeah almost working yeah you're right though normally Maggie knows behind there it doesn't work and most players wouldn't go for it but I think the castle fire helped and how important has it been that a CCM chose to canoe because he's kept these two canoe garrison in this castle and so he's got those extra arrows out I think the most important thing is the fact that say my name has no access to stone like he said yeah mm-hmm so it's just he's just been struggling so hard here it's so expensive to buy it as well now a CCM can buy his way up pretty soon - Wow good micro from yellow oh my goodness yellow needs to have it again though I'm nervous as well but he should have the hill here right so he could get some big shots all beautiful nice shot dude it's been on point but his eCos not oh wait no wow a CSUN can you get another shot okay that was better for a CCM I feel considering there the circumstances I am I am genuinely mind blown by this game this game has been so good but this Joe on the right so many whoa where did they where did they come from they came from the casting Castle yeah they were inside another Ram coming forward to try and kill the castle from say my name he's got to deal with these two can oh I think ACC i'ma swung this yeah back right back into his favor yeah now again problem area is his main base so say my name goes there he's alright but there are two canoe here to defend it's at least going to be reasonable defense I love how a CCM is everywhere right now Dave he is his four separate groups three two canoe here he has 16 chicano here and in the center he has stone and he has gold so I even added another Ram Dave he added another Ram is this it is this the world ah it's falling apart for say my name he's waiting at the back and both sides he's coming for it at the front Wow guide the dock and the right yeah yeah over so we must not have seen the chat there but say my name calls the GG a CCM holds on the transport ship wasn't used it was suspect at times from say my name but he found a way to make this competitive he just didn't have enough my goodness what a game that was a sick game there was a moment there weird swung back in his favor yeah I think like if say my name had noticed the Rams earlier he could have denied a lot of that I think so as well it's with some quick walls or something you can really really slow them down then all of a sudden you're not focusing so hard on your castle and he like he nuked his economy to buy that stone yeah I think he didn't have vision on the siege workshop so he was he had all of his army on the left side and so he knew this each workshop was there but he had only seen Magon ELLs so it was actually pretty clutch from a CCM to know that the siege workshop wasn't in his line of his opponent's line of sight and make grams because if you see a siege workshop with flags on it for a considerable amount of time you assume Rams he just didn't see it that and the fact he didn't have stone and say my name only had one mag no but that was that was awesome stuff and now the score is two to one after we started the day with with say my name getting the first win a CCM two wins to his name Wow okay I'm now looking at the achievements to a CCM had way more stone and gold so I think just getting the Town Center up early helped and I also think his position in the middle was better even after both castles went up but I came though that was ridiculous Dave oh man there's a lot of swings than that yeah alright like the whole transport ship thing I would have liked to see it actually do something rather than just done it maybe maybe there he's expecting stone walls and so he thinks he needs the transport ship but then he realizes it's just palisade walls even if you transport a villager in they can't do anything in there alright well guys I recognize we have a lot of people here Dave and I are just gonna move on to the next game but to all the people out there who have subbed in resub today thank you all so I see some some bits and some small dough nose this has been an awesome show so far the score is now 2 to 1 and game 4 as a set map Dave and its slopes so we've seen Indians globally banned in some sets we've seen Mongols but actually Mongols have never been globally banned but the point is Indians are available here as our Mongols I think Mongols are probably more flexible on other maps so you might want to save them and it feels to me like this would be an Indian War well hop in game number four to two what whoa wait our scoreboards incorrect here is it not our scoreboards incorrect man I got a speak to overlay guy and/or a robo we've had a few too many problems here guys let me see if I can fix this the score is 2-1 a CCM right Dave yep all right cool well we have that it's fine everything's fine two one is this the first time you've casted this map with me oh no we did it one other time right we did one with somebody tat O'Dell I think it was yeah yeah those Mongols at the time I think yeah and I also watched the entire FedEx versiv in Chester hurt oh man oh my god dude Dave this map it's another one of those I don't care that it's a mirror matchup because my god is it aggressive look at the gold for both of them they're terrible both have awful Gold's and also you have the aspect of the shore fish on the sides and the deer this is going to be a crazy game now in an Indian's mirror match up here yeah do you just wall up your fish and then wall up your base in camp you make scouts just to like know where your enemy is yeah what I would have normally seen is Scouts and when they go to fish it depends on the player because you still have to board you could bring that in and still have a solid futile time but yeah I don't know I think it's gonna be a scout opening and I've seen so much I've seen Scouts in - all in scouts and archers I've seen Scouts in - fool wall into camel and more frequently we're seeing Scouts in the crossbow and even cattle archers here so we're seeing a lot of the things you've not see from Indians on other maps just because of how open it is ACC I'm going forward with Scout right away mmm is he want to scout the the Reds from say my name see where his gold sponsor I hope he doesn't lose to this you should be sending it to the sides right well you know so the positions are fixed for the shore fish and the deer so I think we are actually gonna make a change for the main event where that's randomized every game to promote scouting I thought the side was randomized food is it not no no it's not so so the shore fish are always in the east and west so I think there's a sea seems probably just assuming that he's gonna go out there but I don't hate the fact that you're sending your Scout forward early because the only other thing you would do here is push deer but on this map the deer out in the side so he is at least getting an idea of where say my name is the positions are fixed so you should never ever lose your Scout to the town center you could always lame you could steal sheep Dave he could have been trying to do that block a villager attack a bill but there he goes over to the shore fish both players going exactly the same time yep the insure fish broken but did you happen to see the game between licks and backed on this map no okay so here we go get a block to ville kenny block deville now on this patch no not not on the sea though yeah not not on the patch that we were playing on you can't block anything man villagers just brush that right off oh my god woman yes under the TC the only woman by the way that's under the TCM say my name gasp was one hit away yeah and the board targeted her so that was close good play from him okay bring her back in so at the end of the day they're ACC I'm just lost HP on his scalp and didn't really gain anything from it so you know what I think is hilarious Dave where's that guy fishing fishing he's fishing they're fishing there now - they want to donkey they won that's a donkey they want me almost got him maybe he'll come back around again they can snack in this time it's a donk fish that's what that is yeah looks like it well I was just gonna say that it's so funny it's always this side - it must be the angle yeah yeah the angle as well you see some villagers doing it over a CCM site all Dave this bug happens you see that bill you can't side if he wants donkey or fish eccm what is he doing okay he's realized now there you go yeah I I experienced that on this map you just have to notice it and send it the veal to a different short fish and it's fine looks like Scouts Dave both on the way up no walls yet form a CCM though you know what is is really sending to villagers okay woohoo what thought he was going forward just a barracks lately forward barracks so it's like oh my god here we go it's a CCM and say my name so you never know when that Ford's gonna come but you know what's actually quite important on this map that wouldn't really be important on other maps is which to wood lines you choose so you'll chop through your wood lines quickly and if you look at a CCM when he walls using the wood lines he will not be using the wood lines that he is currently chopping which is really nice whereas if you look at say my name that left wood line there he's gonna chop through that and that could create some problems later a cesium in feudal age yep stable is coming down I like the way he's placed them and he's gonna secure the golds at the front there is he going hmm where is he sending that one villager you see her that's a life that's intentional I think that's a that's a tower near the fish or is that production building up there has to be Tower right yeah is that worth the risk I mean if he gets it uh you know what I can kind of see this working it'll take a while though and normally I think players will protect that side so if say my name sends anything over there it might be okay but Spearman's protecting the wood line Dave and that tower it's gotta be placed perfectly let's see ooh um that's actually pretty good think he can range the first two fish I don't think he can range the maybe he can I think I think he ranges most and keep in mind the fish in the front are being fished through anyways so they won't be around much longer all right well here come with squelching I think he can touch the guys alright spearmint already here first say my name so this is just like a holding tactic to get the walls down exactly does Armijo Spears words the tower once he sees it spears Scouts I'm really surprised that a CCM is not patrolling any Spears and his gaps at home you've seen say my name doing that but then again Oh Scouts coming in do the tower do the villes have to run when that tower goes up because if they do the Scouts are waiting yeah see it can't range them until he gets fletching it can only arrange the one woman yeah well I'm not can he talk yeah you're right okay well you definitely won't go for fast fletching just for that tower oh he picked a Ville though yellow picked a Ville in the back of a CC I'm space yep notice that very very nice night but losing HP to the spearmen oh but the villagers are on the move Dave oh man I don't know if he needed to run this is so bad for you say my name he's also off the fish too so his food income behind this is going to be so much worse it's so bad what a play from ACC on that tower I've never seen before that was so sneaky you saw the scouts you saw the tower yeah you didn't send military therefore when your villagers are running away like a send some spearmen or something yeah to help him get back I don't know why villager kills for a CC I'm the only one who could say my name it when I'm looking at the Ville count though it's 27 for a CCM and 26 for say my name so either we missed another villager going down for a CCM or he had some idle time which is very possible when you're creating scouts spearmen and pills and now he needs to be careful because he's still exposed on the right side of his base yeah to those Scouts are really weak though watch out for the spearmen yeah there it is of course the week one was on the front right I love this tower so much because it's taken hundreds of food away from say my name also it denies that gold for later on beautiful tower I like the fact he combined it with the scouts right yeah it really works when you combine it with the scouts not so much just by itself if you were to go in there oh you must pick the villager to say my name yeah yeah it's not ideal to have to build these little quick walls on 10 trees you really want to get the full walls up IEC seems he's built a range in an area he wants to hide from say my name so it's good that the scouts are now running out of here I just wonder what the castle times are going to look like now hey how big of a difference is the lack of shore fish per read going to be could be massive why is the villager count did he get wheelbarrow yes he'd a got wheel bit okay okay but before when I mentioned that a CCM had a one ville lead he did not have wheel so well I know I saw get house a couple minute yeah you're getting pop lock he's been struggling and this villager is actually coming back and it's say my name gonna see her I would I would leave her there as the designated house builder just build houses by lame that gold around there yeah yeah just just wall it up I'm surprised I mean it's not he's in a fine position right now it has someone she's gonna make it home that's my question what if she opens what if he opens a hole in the wall for the Ville and then the rest of the villagers died oh she's not making it home she dead just pass it in say Mike and say my name's eyes there was no reason to patrol so he didn't do it and she's home now okay what Dave so just a CCM on the way up he's making archers say my name is my characters too so mmm-hmm we've got both of them going into crossbow and then do you add characters potentially yes potentially I think you definitely do and say my name's position because you've already towered you're gold you can't go for a second TC because you don't have the stone also I think you might have to say my name's position because he still hasn't clicked up there's there's two things that happen here that hurt his eco he lost the bills he lost his shore fish and then he also added the range is super early which was would he could have put in two farms hey CCM only got that second range up a moment ago so I guess better economic approach for a CCM I think say my name really needs a good engagement or to or needs to distract it maybe this right here will buy him some time so he can get up to the next stage as well yeah even though once it gets head he's not gonna be able to do too much there's already archers there for a CCM yep he's falling behind he'll be in Castle age faster just keep thinking back to that tower and the villager loss for for say my name the sneaky tower took hundreds of food away from say my name who needed it to go up and oh boy I could see this being an awful situation for men it could be armies coming back from the left is more army coming from the front yep he's gonna get all his upgrades and he just now got fletching which is interesting yeah all right yeah this is no bueno it's not not looking great is it crossbows on the way for a CCM did he eat oh yeah I'm sorry I'm dumb I was thinking why did he go to stone he didn't tower at home but he towered forward obviously so he's he might want a town center soon and he definitely wants to trap this army this is this is not good man you need this army you need this army yellow otherwise a CCM will be in such a fine position isn't Micah from both so far he might be yeah use the scouts block just run yep and a CCM is just trying to to force say my name's hand you know what this is really good from say my name to get those archers out of there mmm-hmm I didn't think there was a world but apparently there's many world there's there's many world games a yeah now the towers there which is super awkward but yeah dive in with the Scouts and give your archers some time to flee you know what in a second here he's going to have his upgrades a equal villager count yeah and he does have some stones so he could go for a second TC this is actually this is doable as long as this o dodge micro okay whatever you lost one Ville but you're still alive in this game 53 population for both and now h CCM actually needs to be careful that he doesn't keep his army in the back here because there will be more units for say my name yep say my name could even just go it out from the front and try and trap these guys yeah soon as he gets all this upgrades in look at these Scouts on the right side dave they could find a villa pic oh no way that is amazing there's a weak Ville in there too so he could get two villagers here maybe even more that's one Ville that's good and that's that's excellent awareness so he knows how to play the map because that's the other important aspect of this map not only do I got him and also is taking a fight on the other side you know what I was not expecting this didn't you feel like AC sorry yeah say my name was just dead with that castle age time difference it kinda did feel that way yeah he hasn't dropped any extra t C's yet not okay there's one where's that gonna be forward interesting flashing the Gold's are really important here and there's also crossbows near there so yeah that's he's gotta bring his army to support this very much feels like all a CCM is trying to do with the cross was on the left is keep his opponent at home and he's done that and now he's sending his group forward but I guess say my name's just forgetting another TC sees the TC two crossbows and wow the micro with the TC Villa leaders - to keep them alive this is so high-level beautiful but the cross was at the back are being annoying again and the say my name for C to drop a watchtower I think the tower it's definitely the I think that's the better play cuz if he sent his cross was back to deal with this then the TC would have been denied so it's not too bad I like this each workshop edition for a CCM though cuz all we're seeing from players right now is cross bows and crossbows could easily go down to siege hmm alright so we're on to town centers at a CCM space he has expanded to the wood line on the outer edge however his Gold's are more exposed and he's going for a town centre now in the middle hey this is this is like Maggie no dodgeball Dave that's what this is gonna be you and I used to play that all the time crossbows from yellow going into the back wood line from a CCM oh man oh my god they're both losing bills they both just lost some villagers there I think it was more losses for say my name but it's still very close he just needs wood and he needs a siege workshop wait love how ACC I'm is camping out all the wood lines you just to know where he goes the amount of base trades that we have had in this series has been unveiled look look at this now a CCM has to leave his base and go to the safe base on the right incredible time - yeah crazy I love this map this is my opinion is one of the best maps we have for hc3 it's also almost impossible to know a player styles - yeah do you see how like a CCM has a camel on the right side a crossbow over there another crossbow on the left a Spearman yeah like he's just waiting oh he's also waiting for the mag Annelle shot and misses man we had to look at three different spots there there I mean that tower on the left is actually going to extremely useful it denies say my name from expanding and then yeah the camel in the north you mentioned so I would like to see him patrol that but at seeds workshop in my opinion a bit late for say my name and the lack of wood now is becoming pretty apparent but his micro could be decent super careful here super careful bud man if he imagine if he takes that mango out that what a beautiful split he could still remain you still have some type of presence here Dave it's 93 pop verse 86 this is a sick game I'm loving this the Eco is not as far behind as we thought it would be I know yeah and it's 36 military verse 26 so say my name could could easily do this this could go either way oh oh on the left no crossbows from a CCM have come back and now yellow runs away not bad there's crossbows from yellow in the middle - I'm gonna pick up the reinforcements but there is a manga no they're also manga no from yellow yellow he sees it dude the micro has been amazing for both players what about a CCM does you see this let's attack rounds oh man this is ridiculous now he is taking a fight on the left but that's a reasonable fight to take and I think the middle will be more important so keep looking out for actually what's a stone count like oh my god say my name has 550 stone he could drop a castle soon if he maintains control every game so far he's had a castle foundation forward on his enemy and he's had to delete it and bring it back a little bit that's true yeah every game so we'll see if he actually gets one down here I'd love to see him like do you go for the side or do you go for the middle things situation with this it's not the same on every slope generation Oh oh okay it's it it's not the same on every slope map Jen but I think on this particular one you have to drop a castle in the middle because the goals there's so many Gold's there wow this could be bad this this could be great for a CCM oh I don't know how he didn't they're not look Sarah calls it dude 94 population verse 90 where is that castle gonna go in his face in the face and he Scott he's got Megan awesome oh no oh no oh no kill falling apart hit a CCM see that he can see it he has magno on the left - Mangin else though - Megan else from yellow wait big shot what how is that one HP the dodging I I don't think a CCM stops this I mean the micro is incredible with the mag micro yeah the maginot micro could make the difference oh my god dude the towers are villagers is that nub is more villagers are on the way now it's 90% but there's another mag Adele oh my god that's got to go up right he's gonna get it up but it might have cost them way too much was it worth it though you're down ten bills now but now you kill a few as he retreats and you have a castle in the middle when a CCM is not really that close to clicking up it might just be worth it but but Dave we talked about it before I'll talk about it again the expansion for a CCM how important will that be and oh my god Dave look at his scouting he doesn't see the poor tile gold oh man how he doesn't see the floor tile it's always on the shore fish side it's always on the shore fish side he denied the for tile gold from his opponent will he have the presence of mind to know to look for that because if not this this could be a really bathroom is he taking gold elsewhere okay still taking that one gold and still has a four tile close but that tipped at Town Center's going down a cesium Zico looks good but you have to remember that two of his five town centers are under pressure right yeah also in regards to the gold he actually does have a two tile on the left and he also has its own stone so it's not actually as bad as I thought it would be excuse me initially uh but say my name is on his way to imp how did he pull this off yeah such great play I thought he was dead when his archers were like trapped yep near a CCM space and futile yep but he's pulled it back for sure there's a hole there on the wood line that's a hole I think he broke out of there earlier right something like that he looks like it's covering it looks like it fell that direction you're trying to run in and the tree falls and block to you that'd be too realistic well you can't fight against these skirmishers yeah probably not but the hole still there so just peace out of here and now that he sees scurbs say my name adding some stables and oh my god Dave hello castle V castle and neither will be a doubt castle Wow sometimes I feel like I might be the worst caster in like ever ever because that how do we miss it I mean to be fair to us Dave and our reputations there's five different areas to look at in this map at all times but my god I mean what happens now though that just gets Trev down right yeah but he for the moment he did secure the stones there he secured the Gold's there and he's on his way to this world right yeah so I see that say my name wants to go for like half to counter the skirm which is normally great but I don't know if he has the foodie go for it it's only 28 farms he's also town centering the left now so he can take that gold after that Town Center goes up and he shoots the tower down so he's sending a ram over to the castle on the left side you can Ram that one down I think because you have your castle so close yeah that's true and he's actually making petard sin that too oh really yeah well there's two castles he has to deal with that's the problem killing a ton of villagers with skirmishers to ACC died here come the light keV he does have the Ville Lee does he see that goal he does see the gold now Dave so if you know is that gold is there he might actually be okay he'll definitely have stone to build another castle for the time being this is this is all over the place this is ridiculous a CCM seems like he's behind but he has more population again the light cat was no operates both those consoles but it's another castle for say my name that could be denied by skirmishers though you don't have okay now he has armor on the light calves what like why so risky with that one he must think like he knows he's not behind he sees the score yeah all right well it's gonna work again both castles are gonna go down probably yeah I mean you really have to protect your trebs here from the Rams if you're not paying attention these Rams couldn't act Oh No those Rams won't kill those trebs will they it takes a while for a battering ram to kill a trap that one's really weak okay Hill of the hill okay fine all right he'll be fine and that castle did complete for say my name and now it's 121 pop for saying my name 136 for a CCM this the series between back and lakes was knots guys but this series is what series has been good oh man this is amazing just it's so funny because it's like a CCM is the more solid player he's obviously thought about the strategy more but say my name is like as soon as he's down he gets back up again yeah fuses to die yeah I'm just thinking about all the aspects of this map expanding to the sides and taking a center and and say my name has done both of those things well at least better at this point that castle on the right will serve to pressure state a CCM later and the castles and trebs in the center I'll say goodbye to your castle a CCM he's Castle us now I think your raid now if you're in say my name's position you probably switch out of range students entirely go for camel go for hustler and then probably just raid the sides like crazy it's got another way to go and don't trickle trip if we learned anything from The Exorcist sir your Indians do not trickle TREB yeah it's in a CCM doesn't really have anything in his base right now it was all over on the right yeah yeah I think say my name is very aware of that but a CCM will Castle the right and then he has an opportunity to make some trebs he does have Gold's so maybe you could push that back Dave there's potential it's like they both have the same pop they're just they have so little military and they they don't know where it should be right now they're looking for the cabochard switch really from a CCM well I see a couple of them okay it's not making more I think he might have had yeah might have canceled that and I was wondering about that and now say my name on the gold - from a CCM that's huge he's picking off villagers a lot of different places AC Sam what's the town center that yeah it's funny as he's losing some of the the right middle and the right he's actually shifting over to the left a bit and I wouldn't surprise me to see a town center over there either but we have heavy camel against heavy camel the upgrade seemed to be stronger for say my name at the moment and I think he has the all-important trebuchet so a CCM I can see what he was trying to do with trebs on the right but he'll be on one and there's three there for saying my name and there's nothing a CCM can do about it a I'm looking for in opening he can hit say my name space it is there you go right into that far Miko yeah but what's what's more important you get those filters but then you lose everything in the sensor and on the right hand on the right side down that's really big that the cast is going down and almost like to see him bring his camels over to that side yeah I mean this is the start of something good if you can continue this raid what this does is this drawl say my name back to deal with it like the radon ACC comes bass still man yeah and I just love the pike addition to a few Pike's mixed in say my name will have the the Eco to send units back to deal with that and continue his raid Dave this is looking much much better for say my name and it could tie up the series if he continues like this this is awesome such strong play yes he hit castle age like really really strong play camels from ACC I'm trying to find something but there's camels chasing yeah say my name Andy's got that big group in his base Oh an elfin Archer an overture on the right side let's go oh man that's great yeah I just see a whole lot of red and so little blue man and so many idols for ACCME is 30 idols at the moment shreds not gonna die though yeah not not until a camel arrives rip that all the momentum all the momentum is in yellows favor right now yep wow the population vamoose it's like 1,400 food and 800 gold or something it's basically the cost of a little it's a little bit yeah it's much better to just make more camels here someone someone in the twitch chat will know the exact number I just know it you just make a lot of eco and click it what the time is right yeah perhaps are gonna hit that TC now the camels are there skirmishers do nothing we're seeing the in camels that's so much farm economy if you lose this area you lose 30 farms that he is 35 on food so another castle from Saint my name in the middle of the map beautiful beautiful play and and with that castles up that Town Center will not be secured at all there's already a trip there this this is unreal yeah this is absolutely unreal the way say my name is playing this is perfect at dressing the left pushing the center pushing the right both of these players this is what's kind of sad about this both of these players are worthy of making it into the main event of hidden Cup 3 they're both so freakishly good only one will move on today all the villagers popping out of that TCC from a CCM they're actually gonna go to get away from now credit to him yeah he's kept that villager count up it's been at like 134 the last 20 minutes as say my name rips through Zika yep um but he just can't get the army to fight this fast you know what I think it is it's so easy to read boom with Indians because ervil's are dirt cheap so he's probably adding more Vil's constantly but they're not they don't have time to collect resources ladies that's the limit with everything he's sending bills out to come kill these traps because he hasn't no other a hit sir yeah yeah and they were gonna have to go back and that town center he just rebuilt will go down and Dave the upgrades are insane soon full upgrades on these heavy camels or say my name it's not the case for easy conduction q2 yeah full production good controlled knows exactly where he needs to be at all times yeah there go the villagers again I guess if they're cheap go for it sacrifice a few lives but it probably won't work the town centers down anyway we're going to a game five and this will be tied Dave a CC Emma doesn't want to give it up yet because his pop looks good but this is this is insane I'm gonna say it I don't think there's the world I think I mean the population still really confusing to me because it feels like say my name has 50 more pop yeah it's he's just producing bills faster than he could kill him exactly exactly yeah and look at though get the north like there's not enough room in that TC I'm sorry yeah you can't fit all those bills in there yeah not to mention the lack of gold one relic well we'll be saying my name's when he brings that in I don't think there's any relics for eccm at all actually just now getting a conscription so that explains some of the problems she's had with numbers look at the bills in the middle there that desperate for golds yeah obviously it's not paying attention to that bill count just went down by 30 yeah ready now yep I think when you're right around 100 population you know you continue to play because you're looking at your pop while you're doing everything else but you see a hundred pop that's normally the sign that there's no way I win combine that with this score I was so impressed with say my name in this game this is this is an amazing comeback because he was behind it did not look good for him at all well he lost three villagers coming back from the fish yet he didn't have access to the fish at all so it looked like a great play from a CCM but some a little bit of sloppiness on ACC I'm sparked to he was hosts a few times let yellow catch up on the villager count and then wow Castle age he let those archers escape which was huge two straight games in a row where we have seen a mere matchup Chinese expected on El Dorado if Indians are available most pros are picking Indians but the games were out of this world man players all over the place I love this map because say my name had the potential to be in five areas at once and sometimes he was even now you have the camels patrolling in the south to stop expansion you have the main group of camels you have the the trebs and the Pyke's and then you have this group and this group with the trebs and he was about to go help us are it's unreal and now the score is 2 to 2 this is exactly what we would have hoped for and you look at like the a cesium was leading on Vil's basically all the way up until the end yeah in the economy for say my name is still so much better so just efficiency yeah exactly Dave yeah applying pressure I think the Mackinaw micro in the in the middle was good and also remember when that castle went up and say my name lost the dozen villagers building it but at least all of his villagers then were safe whatever he had left was safe and untouched and that was not the case for a CCM at all Wow I'm looking at this now I'm just so impressed incredible game from both and we'll move on to game number 5 which will be on a CCMS home map one of them and he has HUP and he has Islands interesting Dave can you do a quick 40 second Q&A with chat by step away for a bit I have to look at your chat okay sup chat you queue and all a who is yellow why is no one reading chat yellow is say my name dude why ok I get so frustrated as frustrated as you are as a viewer saying like Oh who's yellow I don't know it's so frustrating to me to see people crying about not using the name that's on the screen because learn you're human being you can learn it takes you five seconds to learn that say my name's name is yellow don't complain after that you're the rats over what's up guys I can't read this is too fast Dave don't be sassy I have to be man I hate that emote by the way but it's this what I said say Dave and then there's like it's not even a mom does Dave have a gamertag no I don't game I don't play this game I just speak why are all the moms in the chat man I don't know why I said anymote that's my question because every hidden cup you say bring mom like is she dreaming of me yeah yeah it's her thought bubble she's thinking of you that's that's all of chats mom's thinking of you okay anyways I'm back and I'm ready to go I'm sure you're ready to escape the qat yeah well I went on a rant so it wasn't it wasn't a good cute oh really okay well let's hop into game number five we have so many new twitch crimes on the left monitor for me this is ridiculous thank you to all of you but the show must continue we have to find out who moves on to play in the main event of hidden Cup three and again this is the first series where we've had continuous mirror matches and again we're talking about a map of options Dave this is cup and this is what a CCM went for and it's a Japanese war and this Cup is is it just me or is this cup like really small in comparison to normal generation yeah I guess it's yeah I guess it's probably the same I just I don't know it just looks different at the start yeah there's really no way to sum up this map and especially with Japanese who are so incredibly flexible I don't really know what to expect but what I will remind people of is if you dock the right you cannot sail over to the left and that's the same if you dock the left and try and get to the right also fishing ships very important Japanese both have armored fish and ships so we difficult for both of them to kill those fishing ships and we could see man-at-arms I've seen that I've seen archers I've seen a whole lot of things on this map Dave who was it was the ACC M that went forward with towers ting men-at-arms on this were you thinking okay that's a my name so you definitely were watching in the chat when it was this Lix did the weird rush thing oh yeah that was licks okay yeah okay however I think a CCM in round one and I've casted so many games I forget I think he went for men-at-arms and water which it was a surprise to me but he up killing a bunch of villagers in the process we'll see this map hasn't changed at all since hidden cup two and a CCM did play in hidden cup too so he should be somewhat familiar with it though I don't know if he played it I know when Lee Rico casted he said he had never seen the two of the maps which shows me he didn't prepare too much for hc2 but what's the score right now it's at two two two two men ha ha ha let's go and we both said four three yeah I said four three a CCM but you know what I just kind of have a feeling that say my name could take this I that that was my impression because yeah I've watched so many games of them and I feel like say my name has a higher win percentage versus a CC mm-hmm but I don't know it could just be usually when I'm watching them it's like 3:00 a.m. so yeah not maybe I'm not paying attention dude but it's how crazy is it though that we have two players so I think there were three Vietnamese players in the qualifier and two of them match up against players or we had yeah cuz backed Wang oh I forgot about for long yeah yeah yeah so anyways that the fact that we had these two who are so familiar with each other playing against one another to get in is I'm sure they're gonna feel bad and good at the same time when they win right we could have had theoretically we could have had five we could have had cool too if he had played more yeah cool could have made it he signed up he didn't he didn't get in same with there were some late Chinese sign ups they just didn't get the rating lots of good Vietnamese players out there and these are two of the very best and they both docked the left side no they both scouted it as well at the same exact time what what what oh you're the second ahead of me oh no I was like wait what I didn't see anything what happens oh boy well that's not that's not the slop you can accept you're playing at this level two two two you can't be losing villagers in Dark Age come on then that hurts not good all right well I think since they both gone for the water play this is going to be so weird because normally you don't owe a CCM even trying to steal the Sheep look at this don't let him get away still worth the idle time but what I wanted to say here is Japanese fish and chips are so tough to kill and say my name running into the TC - what is going on here I can't even talk about the upcoming strategies because of the amount of fails that are happening for him it's just he's making mom spaghetti right now and it's terrible yeah just yeah okay well we'll see if he can pull it back remember last game that's true hind a little bit yeah pulled it back see if you can do it again so so what's really bad and what frustrates me about players losing their scout on this map is that the TC positions are fixed it's always in this thing it's always in the same place so that either tells me this guy had the biggest biggest brain part of all time or he's not used to the map there's 11 Maps a CCM picked this as his home map so he knows but maybe say my name just doesn't really know but you know saying that we see players doing a very similar thing here both are on the way to feudal age and we have what will be men at arms but the difference is a CCM can scout it say my name he has to live with the fact that a CCM knows this is coming and he is completely blind to what his opponents up to and look at the villager count to like just losing that villo hurts you so bad here yeah it's a Ville and and a fishing shamed a fishing ship and also the fact he's up a little bit earlier so he'll end up being too behind right now also I really hate his lumber to have that many villagers on one lover can't win especially as Jo chief yes 50 would just drop another one yep so both players going for a minute arms here okay well consider that say my name will be faster but he also doesn't have a scalp and now can attack the fight yeah now this third one is kind of stranded out here eat what he can do though is delay so he can run these around forever yeah there you go this gives him a little little bit of time to breathe doesn't it yeah it's not bad but I think he canceled no he still is the upgrade coming in I think you should fight before the upgrade comes in for a CCM this is this is actually quite good at a damage yeah this is quite good just the time is huge here have any coming out from his stock okay one fire galley but fire galley for a CCM as well mm-hmm so a CCM is gonna go for the doc and say my name is gonna go for the archery range first week ville this could eat oh never mind Scout goes down though that's very nice yeah I just fight the men-at-arms here actually you could attack the deer I think taking the deer with one of them would be wouldn't be a bad play to docks for a CCM on the Left Dave how important is that repair that was immediate reaction from a CCM well played we'll see a lot of that and I think he's gonna name is actually gonna win the fight what now you can take the deer yeah that week villager on the Goldie remembers and these are Japanese man-at-arms yeah they're no joke dude alright well did some damage not too bad this is this is very similar to the previous game where a CCM had the better start but say my name ended up bringing it back with a few small moments and Dave the archers are already on the way and a CCM can't scout the fact that archers are coming so while a CCM seems way stronger right now with the extra fishing ships and the water play on the Left maybe the archers can do some damage or say my name by the way chat your all your all I'm at thirteen eight so the archers aren't on the way then they are you okay they are now yeah no I mean yeah sorry it's been a while since we've since we've cast together but when I said on the way I meant on the way in production but to to archers sue is not enough man without fletching I know there's some weak Villas back there yeah and he knows that too but you won't even be able to get it and he's he hasn't lost his fish and chips but he's not fishing efficiently a CCM seems to be playing very clean on his home map right now and even at our on the Left he knows the archers could be a threat so I don't even think that tower was necessary but I can at least tell what he's thinking I think he could have used this just yeah it was a good fight with the men-at-arms there but snow bolts so quickly it is yeah nice you're gonna help them so much but you commit to just one doc on a map with fish you're giving your opponent a chance to get a big lead archers going into the TCE yeah all right so what we need to pay attention to now is how many villagers each player has on food because there's a few things you can do you can go heavy farms right now and you could still have the same up time as a CCM there's potential there but it's not going to be easy to do that and you almost need to foresee that you're gonna lose water and add farm super early what she has not done this is actually seed sorry go timing with this villager at the bottom here he's building the blacksmith but where is it gonna go okay it's coming back up that weird yeah the ranges are also just not range as you would expect from a pro player cuz they're they're placed awkwardly I didn't even notice that what it's like he wants to wall out his Town Center I don't know but um he does have fletching on the way and he sniped a unit Dave this is what I think say my name needs to do now I don't think he has the foodie he'll I think he needs to dive in for the fish-like demo the fish and then fire down the rest possibly but against Japanese not so easy put heat on the wood line a CCM doesn't know where to expect this pressure finally got fletching for the archers okay yeah it's got damaged I'm really surprised he's working off one lumber camp though like I would have built three lumber camps for efficiency already with Japanese it's so cheap a small counter-attack from AC cm maybe this will do something maybe a dock on the right for say my name could do it but this villager again this isn't wold at all which is just not torment play oh why you're not walling is beyond me and oh the armature is on the way out though yeah it's true but that was an unnecessary loss wasn't it and now you have to chase this very unnecessary yep he's back on the wood line from ACC on though yep close to sniping the Vil someone said no berries for a CCM is there no berries for a CCM again or starting out again that was an issue we had in the other qualifier game yeah no berries did you not make him milk what there's no berries so I'll tell you what the conversations have been behind the scenes we've already fixed that issue there was an issue with Daniels game and except in that case Daniel was behind elsewhere a CCM seems to be fine so we fixed the issue with the map it was like one in 150 chance or something and the players can report it and just replay it but I'm imagine Robbo didn't hear anything about it because I wasn't told nobody's just milled the deer anyway right but he milled various rez he just need to mark it he's up he's good berries are very nice to have yeah yeah so that will be addressed for the main event I hate to see that but it's happened now and no one was told about it and I mean a CCM dude just don't take bad fights get a mark it out and address this water on the right side he now sees that say my name has docked the right that is a way to come back I didn't mention earlier oh no the skirmish is gonna die to the wall no way no way is it actually it will do you want the honors date nope that was three years ago the woman who was since sales Lou get Rick there you go did you did chat no do you think chat knows that you're the one who started that I listen if there's anything that you ever enjoy any sort of tagline youtube title meme on this channel 95% of the time it originated from me what 95% all in content 95% listen when you co cast you signed the contract I can use all of your ideas yeah what about the what about the time that okay I was joking me 10% of all the money that you've earned what I never said that yep this I apparently touched on him I apparently touched on a very serious topic here I was just making a joke oh gee fans are gonna remotely looks like I have done years ago I haven't I haven't shipped out the chair yet so I guess I'm just gonna have to hold onto that yep you would know chair for Dave well how good was it for a CCM that he was able to get a lead man without the berries like my god yep and how good food say my name to actually be denying that dog yeah and get that the fishing food in he's actually like the villager count pretty close yeah right now pretty cool that's that means more villagers first say my name because a cesium is more fish so mm-hmm yeah I think the great thing about say my name's position is that he has fish and he has way more military the bad thing is that the left side is way more important than the decision a wolf killed another Archer from blue on the left side see we would never Dave like the bird meme anything that involves animals Dave definitely started and there are many other things of course but like I can't tell you how many times I still remember masters of arena 3 you're just like the deer there's see janitors on the map and there's a deer bugging out and Dave's freaking out about the deer Oh yellows got to be careful with these devil Oh God okay so does a CCM yeah that was really close oh oh so how good is it tower for a cesium I didn't like it originally but as ends up being pretty good sound way too early I think yeah like when he saw that say my name only had two archers without fletching and he was dropping it sour like it just seemed it seemed weird when he put it but ya know a close game right now Dave and panicked II see it almost looks like for saying my name he knew that the military for a CCM came to the right he also has a leet skirm yeah he's actually in a not bad position right now yeah cuz like a CCM fish he never read dog the other side so they've been running all the way yeah to the side of the water so they're not as effective as you would normally think fish are and sorry say my name still has his yeah still has his fish there's a lot of fish left there and it took a long time for say mine or sorry a CCM doc there so don't go in here don't sit under that tower don't do anything in your yellow host game again after a solid start for a CCM 53 villagers for him he has the lead he's behind in military but there's demos out here Dave oh god he's oh man I guess you could just sit on the island and snipe whatever intercept these fish yeah yeah I mean he's he's doing a great job right now yeah it's risky to be out here but he just assumes a demo won't be on the way and he assumes correctly he's got more eco than a CCM at the moment well in terms of TCS and villagers working it's just the fishing ships yeah the the center and one fishing ship to all three fish and ships will go down oh but mo just nuked one crossbow yeah just caught the tail end of that so okay he sees it and he backs away nice job a CCM he got the upgrades for his Navy and that is not something that say my name went for I think that's a big difference so difficult to push a CCM if you don't have some water control and here goes the demo delete it boom shot oh that was the risk right there that was the risk if you don't control the center you lose your fish and unite a CCM there with a bunch of cross was there are crossbows from say my name yeah behind so he could trap it but he's probably gonna lose oh no good recognition I was sick Wow right away you know what he probably reacted so quickly because he didn't have the other army to pay attention to anymore he lost it so yeah yeah he doesn't even have town much like he couldn't see that from very far away so very very nice from him going around from the top side which I think it's the breath flow I think no AC see him looping around for the bottom yeah I'm pretty sure that a cesium never wanted to go in there there are situations where you attack you know your opponent's Army's waiting for you and you're just waiting for them to bring it home instead of pushing out and in the meantime you'll expand elsewhere so a CCM who this is gonna be a tough fight for him to take but he's doing a great job well he's got to Megan I was coming from the north and he's got say my name has the war galley upgrade actually coming in so he's gonna have the upgraded Navy okay up unfortunately for him he can't get a doc on that northern pond exactly looks like he might want to yeah what do you do if you don't have either of the ponds controlled maybe you use this the what do we call this the center with the smaller ponds win there and then push yellow it was like he he faked a CC ml by not microing there for a second oh no oh the shot was huge in the ends oh geez yeah it's it's looking rough for say my name now and Dave it's 77 pitchers for 65 that the eco expansion has been unreal who needs berries right who needs it so he lost he just got ballistics actually good job DK him Oh Urmi yeah and bring it over to the north side a CCM space just got ballistics and his army basically got wiped I can see now he's gonna have to rebuild that momentum I can tell guys listen chat I don't know I just got to address this real quick cuz people are freaking out they say my name meme is hilarious you're all we're all dying of laughter here however yellow is also his name just in case you don't know alright so we call him yellow as well I I think there's maybe two percent that don't know but anyways what was I gonna say oh I can tell you're a fan of say my name because he just got a horse collar Dave yep sit yeah so that eco is even worse it's not even just the numbers it's the efficiency of it a CC I'm making an outpost on the north so we can see where the archers come in the crossbows sorry yeah great games faster oh oh oh that mango though nice shot but now a CCM has waltzed in here with his hone this is so funny a CC of waltzes in with crossbows and his own mag Annelle and he just goes right past the siege workshop and this is the sense of being amazing look how many villagers are idle because of this Oh the North yep just spotted it F's in the chat for say my name in now who just leave it's like old thank you very much you have a nice town thank you for the tour I might stop back next time I'm in town oh no way sure okay one for one that was so weird well okay villagers now walking across oh my god that castle is ECC I'm actually going for that castle it looks like he is Dave can he get that up that right there is there a world in which he gets this up as you would say oh this is not know he's gonna cancel it yeah okay good but even that is risky even that's so risky I mean he has the water control yeah so you notice nothing's coming out from yellow but yellow Scot military there - there's a maganet there's crossbows oh no a CCM you're on your way to M honestly you'd be better if you just Castle it on the amphibious terrain in the center delete that and just I don't I don't know if he realizes you cam yeah it's possible sometimes you just forget these things right say my name is mango does not fire the castle has not been deleted so it's still maybe maybe a CCM just waits for his upgrades actually it gets bracer in chemistry and then finishes it but say my name is nowhere near Imperial no nope not at all and this is bad and if the maganet alive if they don't get big hits that castles going up still feel like a CCM is a bit too confident here just back up for a second there's still so many villagers there Oh - manga Nels you need big shots here yellow yeah good micro from both he needs he needs it's worked so far there you go that my god that's actually that's actually really good still got castles there that foundation is there it's not making any sense to me yet all right well bracer are blessed chemistry all on the way for a CCM it was lack of course caller in the lack of fish I believe and the amount of villagers to a CCM still has more antes in the Imperial age I think that's why he figures he's eventually gonna take this out and all big shot but good micro could do oh my god that was insane though this is how Knight step with the scurbs this is how you stay alive in a game that's for sure he might be way behind me Megiddo the maggin oh the mag you know do you remember that someone has that clip out there in chat it's that the one ice-cream made of my voice yeah okay so oh I mean at this point even stop but yeah you can't stop the castle right the mag anoles not going to be enough against our bolused and so the castle will go up now too a CCM he's Mack Rhodes so well he has the stone to build another one and I say you build it in the center even with one villager you'd be fine there say my name will build his own castle on this right side try to anyways I think that will happen and he is on his way to the Imperial aged lands a decent shot there is this possible for say my name David what's his wind condition here I think early treble possibly yeah I mean he's given himself he's gained like five minutes yeah with that castle deny and now I just I don't see wow this off even another Castle man even another castle the only bad thing for a CCM is he does not see that say my name is building his but he should the more he pushes in here the more the closer he gets to the castle and then he'll just he's already got a Trevo he's making two ranges on the other side of the say my name space yeah so he's gonna be squeezed from both sides and he's gonna have later trebs yeah not a second Castle yeah I love the ranges on the left beautiful pressuring the wood line even with just a few skirmishes you can delay an entire wood line and I have to say we said it from the start say my name didn't seem to know the map and a CCM definitely did he played it well he booms behind even without berries which is hundreds of food and he's looking good going towards the end of Game five here incredible I even love how he's running around cuz he knows he can I'm gonna rage you on this wood line to he's gonna fall we surround to the guy say my name is in big trouble right now this is awesome what a series Dave I mean it sets itself up perfectly for Game seven because then say my name might have a whole map he's really comfortable on if he loses this wins that and we go to ravines for Game seven is it always ravines Game seven not for the main event but for the qualifier yep okay yeah we said it game four slopes and I mean originally we weren't expecting these players to be picking the new maps at all in the best of fives in round one so we wanted to force them to play the new maps but we've seen so many of the new maps and players are picking them so here the castles gonna go down the scams are in on the left that's too many look at the villagers in the middle thing just wandering around aimlessly yeah this is yes this is resigned territory for say my name he does tap out this score is three to two a CCM is one went away from making it into the main event of hidden Cup three and he was in hidden Cup - I'm sure he wants to be back let's see if say my name can find a response just sloppy there at the beginning very yellow yeah he lost the villager and then immediately loses the Scout the fact that he was actually in that game is impressive considering what happened at the beginning yeah you could also say though a CCM yes he got ahead early but uh the berry buggy it's a berry issue yeah and I don't like the fact that I had to address this in front of 8,000 people we we have it sorted for the main event but I'll tell you what the fact that he won without that is even more impressive for me 91 percent of that map was explored much faster Castle time much faster Imperial aged more of every resource collected there's no doubt in my mind that a CCM he knew that he could perform on that map and so that means we have one home map remaining oh no I lied sorry there's actually two home maps remaining say my name can choose either of them and the map that he will go for his Bey Dave you ready let's go alright so we did not have a lot of mirror matchups and in most of the sets then we had two players matched up against each other who played together all the time who probably think about the game the game in a similar fashion and now we have Mongols here now I'm super surprised we didn't see a Persians pick Mongols is good because of the hunt but backed chose Mongols on this map and he lost the Persians against less and that crazy best-of-seven the other day so it's a mumbled mirror matchup on Bay Dave and apparently we call it pants now I'm pumped it I you know what someone tried to give me credit for coming up with that pants name I don't know if I did but at least someone's trying to give me credit for something I came up with jeez man like the amount of power dave has with those comments hey all chats like oh it hurts and I can't come back there's nothing I just have to just have to eat it and cast the game yeah I'm I'm surprised with the know Persians too cuz it's like everything Mongols can do on this map Persians can can do any much do it as well and they have a better late-game obviously on water way stronger but well it just doesn't fit the style of these two players it was Aztecs and Mayans that was globally bands yeah so might suit the style Persians was never picked and hidden cup too but it will be picked and hidden cup three let me tell you the save is insane now but okay mirror matchup you have a map where there's hunt and a map where there's water it's another map where you have options I think the incorrect play is to go all in for one strategy so the incorrect play would be to go all in for water and not take hunt I think it's an incorrect play to go only hunt and not water I think the way to play this Dave is to do a bit of both and eight ACC I'm already pushing a deer that's a long deer push if he's gonna get a couple of them in huh nice it's actually pretty good thinking it's it's a bit closer for him just a little bit actually no it's not really it's just that that wood line first say my name means it be more difficult journey for him hmm I'm really curious who these guys trained with a lot of the players I know fire who will be in the next set against barrels I know fire trained with a lot of people which is probably the best way to do it but for the Vietnamese players they're probably training amongst other Vietnamese pros you have backed you have say my name of a CCM I don't think long trained with anybody so I just I have to ask them a CCM told me that he and he and Beck's were talking strategy so I just don't know if if say my name was part of the conversation or what but it looks pretty similar man they're both talking at the exact same time and I also dude they're both patrolling to protect their villagers to that that's ridiculous in the same spot yeah they're moving this is this is amazing moving out yep Wow I've got a mirror match literally yeah and then who will get the first hit once again say my name just running right past the lycée CCM notice yeah I mean this will probably probably be much better for a CCM because say my name needs to double back oh okay there's a villager coming yeah I'm a CCM Willie get there in time I'm yeah it'll be in ten and now say my name is gonna have to run and take an extra hit yep and now he probably regrets taking this fight so close to the enemy it's questionable whether or not he can make it back to his base without receiving three more hits so he definitely has to get out of there is he trying to get up okay there was a little bit idle time he's garrisoning villagers but he is up first and speaking of up I think he wants to run up this hill on the other side and get a downhill hit wow what a great segue it's almost like you do this full-time a man you make it easy David you you make it easy okay you're honestly the best CO Pastor Dave invented co casting by the way no one else no one else Co casted before Dave he said he's tired of getting insulted so he's just gonna come you're just so in an effort no seriously I mean I don't want to say it all because it's awkward but you're just the best man you're just the best is it awkward enough for you there we go okay [Laughter] a CCM building a second da and same with say my name and they both have week Scouts now so there's no risk that they'll lose their bills and this is going to be they're gonna start off with fire galleys again this is the correct place however there has to be a point where you send bills over to the deer when that happens how much you commit to it the timing on it is so important dude they both have two on stragglers I guess three now it's just insane how close this is and it comes down to the wire now if say my name doesn't win here on his home map he's not participating in the main event okay I want to see both players have enough to instantly produce to fire galleys say my name it's gonna be a bit faster but by the time he gets to a CCM stocks it'll leave an out did I don't think say my name has the food for double bid axe does it come down to that one deer that was pushed that's that's enough food for double bid X I mean that's an important eco upgrade you should have gotten it right away he didn't have the food yeah I didn't have the food and now you see a CCM I can't I think this is perfect play with mongrels on Bay take the deer now but obviously if you lose water it could make life difficult for you still I expect a lot of my crowing and a lot of repairing both players keeping a villager right by the water to repair it to cool but can't afford to lose even one fire galley where's this miscalculated or calculated I think it will be calculated okay and now a CCM needs to get out of here wow this is I said this when Leary and I were Co casting this map it's stupid but it's impressive at the same time the repair meta oh boy alright so Dave notice how say my name has not gone out too dear yet he's gonna have some serious food issues yeah a demo could change things oh yeah epic micro in fact whoa two demos on the way these demos have to land you're saying my name you're not on dear can you land with the demos can you get a big hit not really at least kill it oh no it's on one HP Oh No but it's gonna get through here I think we're definitely seeing the difference of a CC I'm investing a hundred wood into the mill though because he fell behind a number slightly but say my name his demo didn't land well the fishing ships are going to be micro this is this is really impossible for a caster it's like one person micros back the other person micros back demo nothing yet I wouldn't even use it save that Oh a CC I'm actually sniping a fire ship well how many weak ones are here look how many weak ones are here demo the bill - and you know what that could make this very even now because if he's able to clear out the fishing ships and he hasn't taken the diría it's not that big of a deal he's actually going to Barry's with all of his villagers right now I don't think he has any intention of going out there for the deer right now that bothers me and the demo is two more fire ships Wow great water play here from say my name I think you're right about the mill yeah investing in that just put them too far backing great unit control here yep so you go ahead in food eco in one way but you're behind in the other way because you don't know there we go okay now he goes out all right and ACCME scouting us gonna see that but does he notice it okay he does yeah as he does you have a scout in the tax dance looks like it owned only two HP okay Auto scouting got a safety time to autoscout so when do you start adding fish here if you say my name cuz I don't know you actually can yeah because because if you do a CCM we'll just demo and come right back on so you you don't add fish not yet anyways you pretty much can add fish once you've cleared out once it's two docks the one I think it's kind of silly how there's one flag there and it could mean there's fifteen units in here or whatever the max is I don't even know CCM is gonna be up to castle aged way quicker yeah and if you maybe it was well calculated right he gets the hunt he loses fish but then he comes back on water if his dog stay up cuz he still be he's still fighting on water save that fishing ship it's 1 hp a CCM is attacking the wrong one oh [Music] look at the repairs from a CCM sneaky didn't really work out for that will work out for that one no it won't say my name starting to add farms now which gives him a stronger mid-game all the resources are starting to even out a little bit here yeah I mean 400 food for a season is impressive be careful okay one for one nice I think it's impressive to have 400 food but after your hunt where's your food come from you won't have fish you're not investing into farms it seems like say my name's mid-game will be stronger but he might be later to castle age I think a cesium is going straight maggot I too which is probably good for your transitions but slow very slow it's rough rough for the economy isn't it yeah well and they just they just produce so slow yeah like it takes so long and they're and they're like weak in the council age right before you get all their upgrades so yeah and you will have the food for bodkin I get going early but I like say my name's position a bit more now Dave even if he's later and now he's starting to add fish I think this is probably the proper time yep really really good play from him I love that he's walling up now too just in case yes ECM is going for something tricky yeah like secure your advantage also love a CCM D 'king all the demo ships with that one fire is he is that the low one no it's a new one so him it if he attacks there I think say my name will be able to keep his fish alive there's a weak one in there that's probably what a CCM was hoping for take out the doc take out this left doc say my name make sure you do that yeah and then patrol around the coastline yep and then you can add like I probably add five fish mm-hmm for this probably what's that Eco looking like now with the market when that markets up say my name will buy his way up but he will be about sixty percent behind I'd say so it it really is interesting now what the up times are gonna be like and how eccm transitions that economy he did get a horse collar he's added some farms he still actually he does not have deer but on the new version obey there's more deer round than he has scouted some where's that Vil going what dude yeah I don't know you want to find a quiet place back there alright man well interesting game I can't say that ACC M is necessarily ahead or behind there's good and bad things about both players positions I feel like giving up or not giving up but losing water is never great and ACC is actually coming out and trying to redock ah it's a good it's a nice play but say my name realizes that that's a risk and he's scouting it now the bills can't really be hit this is awkward when you build Palisades sometimes they'll prioritize the palace ater the docks kind of dumb but one dock production what do you what do you even make yeah you're gonna have to research war galley in that and then make whatever whatever yeah units yeah the castles good though the castles good here and that castle means that he could make manga die it does seem like a cesium has economy to maybe go for a second TC well say my name is also gonna go for a castle here exactly it's just when he places it where he places it keep in mind that this is not a full wall for saying my name this demo is blocking the two tile gap so you can't easily full wall in this base unless you do it like a CCM did and wall to the edge of the map demolition rafts being one item a CCM I mean he doesn't want to give it up I can appreciate that but it might be better to just put all of your resources into lands now yeah I think that I think the later mill was was probably worth it a CCM had the right approach but went too early and nice safe stone walls I like that from say my name where would you place to Castle Dave I'd put it near the shoreline probably all right weighs placing it there between the stones okay I should have asked that ten seconds earlier like just when you're in this position you got a figure that you're up yeah so why why go out in place of risky castle right yep I think in an ideal world that's probably the castle goes to the right of that gold somewhere around there so so Dave I talked I've just been using mid-game all day today like how how good is your mid-game gonna be I'm looking at a CCM now and say my name say my name has two farms relying on fish that will only last so long so he's got to get some farms out and a CCMS farm numbers not looking too hot and he has some anga died so 45 bills for a CCM 47 for saying my name but that includes the fish this is pretty close a cesium can't hit anything yeah and say my name is bass like literally nothing I could maybe you could maybe run into it run into a demo yeah well did he just click path oh okay okay Dave stir Damas man yeah I like how he's scouted a lot out here you see you those relics he's also working on getting those relics that could be an you can't lose mega die numbers like that though that hurts running and trying to range villagers he does know about the castle now that yeah you had to suspect it but three TCS now for yellow and how many for a CCM third one going up just now yeah it's good timing on the third TC you can't just add the town centers if you don't have the farms to keep bills producing out of them so I like that I also like hell AC cm is not trying to rush bod Camaro it's two hundred food in one hundred gold he does not have the food to produce bills and also get vodka marrow and you don't gain anything from vodka narrow just now so I think this is good play all around from bullet players ACC I'm getting the relics to yeah so I'm guessing it depends on the manga died right out there but maybe two relics a CCM could snag before the magnet I become an issue it's gotta be full manga die this is just gonna be manga die manga time manga died in the Imperial age it's just how many resources will the players have how many upgrades will they have this is so unbelievably close this almost feels like a game seven right here it's so even feels like one I'd love to see say my name makes amongst go for the relics I think a CCM has the better idea here yeah thinking a little bit more about late game also I love how he's getting this relic way to the north that's the more difficult one to get so he wants to get that soon and the other ones he figures will be easy for him also protecting this one to AC see anything look yellow saw that disappear I believe so now he's heading up there with the manga died nope he didn't scouted that after losing his scalp so it just happened to be he thinks it's time to move out now okay eight verse nine set very close could go either way depending on micro now you can consider getting vodka will a CCM flick it's it looks like the resources are being saved yep say my name is getting it and probably a CCM won't move out until he has it himself but man I love the relics this will be for relics for a CCM v one wave difference I'll give same a namespace yep hmm okay another castle at least like that despite not without not without bodkin and the thing is he might see the numbers and be tempted to but with good micro it's a dangerous fight to take here he's getting vodka now that's true it's so close 8 verse 9 again now it's 9 verse 9 back ok so 2 kills for say my name one for a CCM all those kills matter and do not run towards the castle split okay he's fine 30 get that relic yellow get it yeah before he does he's making a barracks Dave so does that mean he wants a stable for bloodlines stable and archery range yeah look at the food eco though we're looking at 600 food 600 golds and two castles and Wow 500 food 800 gold their end times are gonna be so close this is this is great how much do relics matter is well on a map where there's so much extra gold out there well I mean against Mongols they're gonna have a Hazara rating all over the place yeah realistically so and that stuff is super exposed up at the top good point I feel like every time I've watched this map even if a player has full map control it's really hard for them to capitalize on those Gold's up top there yeah it's like they always get rated somehow it's a good point the relics are very secure and who will click him first say my name it would be say my name yep incredibly close Wow and I love man they're both setting up castles for a big posting oh man the say my name's manga no I just missed that villager from a CCM I see you can hit him once yeah how did it hit him once and then stop I don't I don't know but he's gonna have a villa behind ya outposts just just for some vision would be nice and now the monks coming in to take the relic no way let that then can't let him get that by the way there is no relic or Wonder victory in hidden Cup qualifiers or in the main event of hidden Cup I really I feel like the next event I do I will allow a real factory it's like the odds that that would actually happen is so slim well makes it even if you get them it just turns into like a full camp fest yes yeah it's just not fun too much it's not how pros would normally play anyways Wow okay so now we're comparing upgrades I think good fight here for say my name at the beginning but look at that I think allistic is in for a cesium yes it's not for say my name yeah ballistics came in and now a CCM will see the castle and back up that was fairly even but it's all about the total numbers David's 17 to 19 right now let's say my name don't toss a weight don't toss away make me die 5 relics for a successful gonna be coming down from say my name pretty soon is it gonna be in the middle here or is it gonna be up top probably I think you place it near where that outpost is just build a long line of castles across the center and then fight in the middle that that outpost villager is doing a lot of good things here why are you attacking a CCM is attacking Bill's right now yeah why why are you attacking villagers here I guess the mega die losses weren't as big as we expected but you snipe some bills but then you lose your numbers yeah yeah yeah there's a that's the castle up near that outpost alright so guys we're talking elite manga die lots of resources bracer chemistry lots of resources partying thumb ring bloodlines husbandry and the armor manga dire insane but it takes so much to upgrade them at every upgrade matters here okay now bracers in for a CCM he's got the monks I think this is bad for for yellow here yeah it looks like it the pumps making a difference in a manga war it's not something you say you see every day I think that castle goes up but ace Seanna yeah yellow has to fight here but he's gonna ACC is gonna be happy with the amount of manga die he kills but the council up in time yeah Dave also worth noting that Parthian came in nice and quick per say my name and there was no part the upgrade yeah there's no partying for a CCM buddy's first to the trips now manga Thai kids sniped revs they're insane against reps but if you don't have the numbers you can't really justify diving in there to do that right so I'm liking the momentum for a CCM if he uses this momentum to get the win he will play in hidden Cup three with hidden identities in March skirmishers switch from say my name that's food that you could be using for your mega tie-up dance if you go skirmisher switch that means you've accepted that you're going to be behind in the manga dye numbers it's not a great sign for him and then not even elite skirmisher in yet takes a lot of time man he's East queuing up sperms he doesn't have a lead scrim clicked takes a long time to research that as well and this is a never-ending cycle of repair now and it's very difficult to deal with the trebs to when the castles they're perfect castle spots from a CCM okay so once elite skirm is in they can go and try and site the trap yes the sperms yeah push back the maggot I yep yep you definitely do okay here it comes here it comes you could still make your own maggot I use the scurbs against the manga die use your manga die against the trip well oh he's going against the magnetite numbers there we go yeah probably it's a lot of clicking involved here elite manga die is now in know for a CCM who is behind heavily when it comes to the eco keep in mind the relics are still there but elite manga die there's such a big difference between that and regular castle aged manga die and no elite on the way for say my name and whoa you just can read castle the thing is always house - oh no say my name doesn't have the pop space so he can't even produce anymore military this is not looking good for him the trade verse the manga dies nice but he needs to take that castle out back up ACC em back up just now getting thumber and it wait a second just now getting thumb ring he might not be able to push past this say my name is straining bursting baby dice whoa those trebs on the manga day it's gonna lose this manga die and the castle is a doubt castle at least for now there's one villager building it yeah three HP just let him build it yeah let him build it and it's destroy it right again doesn't it feel like a CCM should still be in a better position because he can make manga die and their elite yeah he's got the better army it's just stay my name has the better eco it's so weird that he's switched into skirmishers so early don't even chance oh and now a CCM saw the TV outposts from earlier he knows the Phils went out here he'll deny that gold why did he build a game against ranged units that's funny he built a gate here as he's trying to trap down and we'll trap down say my name's Castle obviously his magazine holy shrub war right there yeah that's a real Trevor this a Britain's war or a Mongols word oh this is not looking good for say my name at all I think this this via a cesium is playing this yeah this might be it here he kills the treads only one counsel left over the production buildings are all forward yep and it's so easy for a CCM at any point to just get that food eco up and tradition to us our yeah if a CCM pushes forward like where does even take would look at say my name's woody Cohen his own big Oh God it's it's not hot no he can't expand and he probably hasn't realized this until now everything is getting mopped up he doesn't have enough elite skirmishers the score is switching huh SAR will come in for a CCM yeah man you have to expand on this map and a CCM pressure and early imp has just prevented that expansion and the outposts how how big was that oh when he even has one magnet I left there villagers want to finish that TC desperately and he's going to drop a castle there too and we'll see if that castle actually goes up you just don't stop this there's a reason you don't go for skirmishers early because manga die still can shred those skirmishers I guess the town centre went up this is the weirdest out castle you ever see look at the villagers all migrating to new wood lines but there's enemies there um no say my name's got his entire eco on the move and the funny thing is he needs wood but he will also need houses here in a second after losing the castle he's not gonna have the wood to build the houses that he needs it's over it's over a CCM will move on he's denying the lumber camp Wow it's it's sad when this happens right when you have someone as good as say my name gets so close but this is what qualifiers are all about you have to show up we have to deliver a CCM one the previous game without berries on a map where that's important I just you just gg yeah what a series Dave what a series that was sick it really shows how good both of these players are I felt like a CCM had the better strategy choices but say my name have had some epic plays yeah like the micro was on point the way he won water even in this game was pretty convincing especially without the wood upgrade right away when he has a feudal age it's it's a really really good show we're talking about very very small things when it comes down to some of the mirror matchups and some of these games this is how competitive the qualifiers are guys this is how competitive six games could have gone either way when I when I think back Dave a CCM had an awful game one I think Berbers was probably the weirdest choice but think about hideout game to think about what was possible there for for yellow but he didn't take advantage of it with Britain's remember how weird it was he went fuel age archers on a map with wall this is what you have to think about in the best-of-seven like what game did I throw what game could I have done better with and there's a few out there but chat please say my name I actually watches my stream all the time I don't know if he's watching right now but if you could salute the crap out of him respect to you my friend that was an amazing set I'm very sad that you will not be in the main event of hidden Cup 3 but I think a lot of people didn't know who you were before today and they realize you have some skills and then a CCM Congrats for making it back in he's in again yeah he's in again we'll see what he can do and Dave would you say he's better this year than he was last week he's less I would say he's less of a one-trick pony than he used to be mm-hmm it always seemed like he was always going forward yeah and I don't see that that often anymore from him yeah he definitely actually you could say the same for a lot of the Vietnamese players it was the tower wall and boom but no they're a lot more flexible than they were before awesome

Channel: T90Official - Age Of Empires 2

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Length: 176min 3sec (10563 seconds)

Published: Wed Mar 04 2020