What is that? What the hell? <i> On this episode of
"Ghost Hunters"...</i> Is the Lady in White you,
Anna? Grant: The team and I head
to The Original Springs Hotel in Okawville, Illinois... where the resort's dark past... There have been three owners that tragically
committed suicide. He just lost it. ...has a family fearing
for their mother's future. I'm worried that my mother
may snap herself. It's not long before we find
ourselves hot on the trail of the truth... Are you following
Mary around? [ Device beeps ] [ Gasps ] ...only to find out that not
everything is as it seems. Oh, wow, wow,
wow, wow, wow. Oh. Grant: Bam. Right there.
Look. There's proof. Yep. There it is. See it? I want to get out of here. --<font color="#FFFF00"> Captions by VITAC --</font><font color="#00FFFF">
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Pilgrim Media Group, LLC -Hey, guys.
-What's up? Grant: A little breakfast. Well, a little cheesecake. Yeah. Well, let me tell you
about this place, guys. We're going to what's called
The Original Springs Hotel. Oh. Cool. In Okawville, Illinois. This is Jeremy... Okay. ...and his wife, Kendra. But what's interesting
about this one is, they're not
really calling for themselves. They're concerned
about his mother. Oh. Really? We get all kind of calls
and e-mails from all kinds of people. Most are clients calling
for themselves, but, occasionally,
you get people who call on the behalf of someone else,
and those are always tricky because you're never sure
if the person they're calling on behalf of
really wants your help. My name's
Jeremy Rennegarbe. This is my wife, Kendra. We've been married for
about five years now. Five years. During that five years,
we've worked at The Original Springs Hotel
in Okawville, Illinois, which my mother,
Mary Rennegarbe, owns and operates. She originally started there
as a waitress and worked her way
up through, and now has fallen
completely in love with the building to the point
that I'm becoming concerned. She seems to spend more
and more time there, and it seems to me that
she's just completely consumed by the building itself
these past few months. In the hotel's history, there have been three owners
in the past that tragically committed
suicide in the building. Wow. See where this is going? -Yeah.
-Yeah. And I don't understand why. Recently, there has been a spike
in people reporting activity, reporting seeing things,
so we were wondering, was there a power there
before that influenced these people to tragically
kill themselves, or is there paranormal
activity there because they killed
themselves? And I'm worried that the past
is coming back to haunt us. that my mother may, in turn,
snap herself, and that concerns me. I don't want to see any harm
to my mother. Daryl: Okay. Pretty straightforward. Wow. This history of suicides
at this place, and he's starting to see
his mom's behavior change and the activity spike
in the hotel. When it comes to even
the smallest, tiny threat of suicide,
you gotta respond. Alright, well, this is
kind of a heavy-duty case. This is -- Yeah, yeah. It deals with suicide. We have to be very delicate
about it. Let's do what we do best. Yeah. When you have a case like this, and the client is worried about
someone else's mental state, worried that suicide
might be a factor, you can't get in that car
fast enough. I'm supposed to be downstairs
in five minutes. [ Horn honks ] Aah. We're going to Illinois. Somewhere where we're needed. Is you ready? Got my bags packed. Yeah. ♪ Mustafa:
Alright, guys, we're heading to The Original Springs Hotel
in Okawville, Illinois. The reason why it's called
The Original Springs Hotel is 'cause -- you guessed it -- it's built on a mineral
spring reservoir. Just so happens that the wife
of Reverend J.F. Schierbaum, Anna Schierbaum,
who was reported to have been
a hopeless invalid, she took a dip in the springs,
and she was able to walk again, and her -- her rheumatoid
arthritis was cured. So after Anna Schierbaum
experienced the curative properties
of the mineral springs, she convinced her husband to
pool together their resources, and then they opened up
The Original Springs Hotel. Grant: I mean,
as paranormal investigators, we know that places with
flowing water and mineral water have more reported claims
of paranormal activity. Let's get a specialist in there
and test the water. -Yep.
-Yes. That could give us
some insight into maybe why this phenomenon
exists in the first place. So, after Anna passed away at
the hotel from natural causes, the history of this place
turned pretty dark. Between Anna and Mary, three owners of
The Original Springs Hotel committed suicide
while on the job. That's interesting.
That's interesting. So maybe it does have something
to do with the hotel itself. This case really kind of
hits home for me. My brother committed suicide, so I'm taking a really deep,
personal interest in this one. Each location
is a unique case, but this one's special, man. ♪ ♪ Grant: Hey. Kendra: Hi. Thanks for having us.
We're excited to be here, excited to meet you guys.
-Thanks for being here. Thank you for coming. So, you've known this place
your whole life. Yeah.
My parents, Mary and Don, bought the place
in May of 1990. I've grown up
in this building. Right. I was about 5 years old whenever
they took over the business. So, you know, we saw
your call for help, and, obviously, a lot
of it centers around your mom. Correct. But let's put Mom aside
for a second because we want to understand
what's going on here. So, what are you
experiencing? What is
the staff experiencing? What's it like? Well, a lot of staff claim that they'll put a dish
down on one area... ...and then turn around,
come back, and it's moved. Silverware just rearranged
in odd positions. So they don't see it move
as much as it's just moved. It's just moved, yeah. What would you say
are the places in the hotel that require the most focus? Generally in the old men's
bath house. Back in the day, women would go
to one side and do everything. Men would go to the other. If you're a woman, you just
feel unwelcome in there. Oh, makes sense. And sometimes,
it is very aggressive. In 1867, they discovered
that there was an unusual water source
under this town, and that it had all
of these minerals in it that could be curative
to people who had rheumatism and arthritis
and other ailments. Then, in 1884, a woman named
Anna Schierbaum came here with her husband,
and she was an invalid. She came here,
took a series of baths, and, suddenly, was cured. Mustafa: And that's why she
became totally enamored with the place, right? Yeah. And she convinced her husband
to invest and build this hotel. So, they opened this hotel,
and it did huge business. Yeah. But then Anna Schierbaum
passed away and put things into the hand
of her son Ben. Now, Ben Schierbaum loved the
place and decided to settle in, and he married the daughter
of a merchant, and they didn't
get along well. She eventually left him
about four years after they got married. And it sent him
into a terrible spiral. [ Thunder crashes ] And, eventually,
he just lost it. He had taken a shotgun
and a curtain rod and pulled the trigger with it
and blew his own head off... [<i> Gunshot</i> ] ...downstairs,
right off the hallway. So, what are some
of the claims here? It was, like, a Monday
or a Tuesday night. We were really slow. And I was behind the bar, and I happened to glance up
at the upstairs dining room and happened to see,
like, a woman. She had brown hair and,
like, a white gown on. I came upstairs, and, like,
"Can I help you?" and stuff like that,
but there was nobody up here, and nobody answered. Kendra: The Lady in White
is usually seen. Jeremy: Yeah. She has been a full apparition
that people can actually see. Yeah, and all over
the building, from out by the pool to down
those main hallways. Room 350 is a very... Room 350, for sure. Kiser-Benfield:
Most recently, we had guests up here on the third floor. They were laying in bed,
and she felt something, like, holding her legs down. [<i> Woman screaming</i> ] So she woke her husband up, and once that pressure
kind of relieved, they packed up their stuff. They did not want
to stay here at all. We do have a lot of staff
that don't like to come up here
on the third floor. We have a lot
of housekeeping that won't use
that end staircase 'cause it kind
of freaks them out. Taylor: The 1920s come along,
and they had a new owner. His name was Conrad Paeben. Mustafa: Okay. And I've always described him
as being one of those guys who's sort of obsessed
with this place. He wanted to do everything he
could to keep this place going. But the bad news was,
the stock market crashed, and the Depression hits,
and none of it worked. Eventually, in '33,
he committed suicide, too. He took poison. One of the first times when I
realized that this place was -- you know, had things, I was actually upstairs
on the second level in here, and I heard my name. Male voice:<i> Andrea.</i> And I figured it was the cook
at the front desk 'cause he lives here. I said, "Greg, did --
did you say my name?" And he said no. And I said, "Are you sure?"
And he said, "Yeah. They're just letting you know
they know your name." Brandon: Really? So, when you
heard your name called, was that a female voice
that called you? No, it was a male. It was a male, okay. I like to look at it
as Tom Rogers. He was one of the last owners
that killed himself here. Taylor: Eventually, Tom Rogers
took over the hotel, and everybody knew him
as kind of an eccentric. He was just an odd dude. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And he just loved to be here and wander the hallways
all the time. He'd just wander
around this place. Well, then,
one morning in 1962, the couple of staff members
that he had came up to the room where he stayed in
and found him dead in his room. Nobody really
could explain it, but they just sort of
let it go, 'cause he was just
such a strange guy. Grant: So, when we first heard
from you, I thought, "Okay, yeah, three of the owners
committed suicide, but how many people
owned this place?" Right. Right. We found out that it was
pretty much those people. Yeah. Which brings up, of course,
your concerns. My mother, Mary. I'm fairly concerned
with her because knowing the history
about this place, I personally don't ever
want to see anything like that
happen to my mother. I mean, she works here
18 hours a day sometimes...
-Wow. ...to keep
this place a-going. Kendra: It's almost become where
she's fully immersed into the business now.
-Yeah. Grant: Jeremy has concerns
for his mother. You have these previous owners, three of whom ended
their life tragically. -Nice to meet you.
-Nice to meet you. Hi, Mary. Grant. And he's hoping his mother
isn't number four. Has the history
of the hotel, knowing the past owners have
passed the way they did, has that ever
really bothered you or... I haven't really given it
a lot of thought. Mrs. Schierbaum, when she ran the hotel, I almost have kind
of a correlation with Mrs. Schierbaum
and the fact that she ran the hotel
with her children. And I've felt like,
"I did that, too." Mm-hmm. Do I get concerned sometimes when business gets slow
and stuff like that? Yes, I get very concerned. You know that. Well, hopefully, you guys
can be the parentheses to this tragedy. And what's so interesting
about this place is, how does the water factor in? Which we'll try to get
to the bottom of. And, clearly,
according to the staff, they're experiencing stuff. What that stuff is,
we don't know, but we'll get to
the bottom of it and at least move one step
towards an answer. Yeah. That's good enough for us. -Yeah.
-That works. Mary:
Yeah, sounds interesting. Brandon: This case is something
personal to me. I lost a brother to suicide
in 2004. It's one of those things
that leaves a mark in your life, obviously, something that
you never quite forget. But I think this is a great
moment for me to do exactly what "Ghost Hunters"
has set out to do... and make sure these people are comfortable
in their own building. -What's up, guys?
-Looking good. -Hey.
-Hello. -What's up, guys?
-What's up? Grant:
Alright, so, I know this is a heavier case
than most. When there's someone
who's worried about suicide, we don't want to make
any assumptions. And that goes both ways. We don't want to assume
that she's fine. Man: Yeah. But we also don't want to assume
that she's, for some reason, in danger of that.
You know what I mean? -Yeah.
-So it's a tightrope walk. Kristen: And just keep in mind,
guys, if we're reaching out to the victims of suicide, let's just try to talk
about feelings and connecting in that way,
as opposed to focusing on how that person died. -Got it.
-Yeah. Okay. We do have three
main areas here. Daryl and Kristen, I'll have
you guys go to the third floor. Richel and Brian head
to the restaurant. And, Brandon and Mustafa, you guys head
to the second floor. Man: Sounds good. Alright.
Rock 'n' roll. Alright, guys.
Let's go lights out. ♪ ♪ [<i> Thunder crashes</i> ] ♪ Oh, my goodness, dude.
Look at that. Alright. Brandon: Mustafa and I are now
on the second floor. I think we're gonna kind of
just hang out in the middle -- what do you think --
for a second, huh? Yeah. Mustafa: So, Brandon and I are
going up to the second floor to investigate
because this is where Ben Schierbaum
reportedly committed suicide. He's the son of Anna Schierbaum, the original owner
of The Original Springs Hotel. And we're bringing
our data logger with us because we're going
to start a session and see if we can establish
contact with an entity here. I say we just, like... Hunker down? ...hang out, man. You got the camera
on that thing, right? It's -- We're good.
Yeah, we're solid. We got the data logger,
and we're rolling on that, so... My name is Brandon. This is Mustafa. Is there someone in here
with us? Can you speak with us,
please? ♪ Can you touch
that device there? ♪ Whoever's here, I-I know
it can be hard sometimes. I have a brother that went
through some hard times. ♪ Whoever's here,
are you following Mary around? [ Device beeps ] Ooh, there we go. A spike.
Did you see that? Yeah. Is this Ben? ♪ ♪ Is Anna here with us tonight? Anna? [ Device beeps ] Oh! It's Anna. Anna, are you upset that someone
else is running your hotel? ♪ No. Nothing. ♪ ♪ Okay, so, yes. Cameraman:
I got both of you guys. Both of our mic packs
just died simultaneously. And we -- And we'd literally just had
our batteries swapped out. This is something that's,
like, very common in paranormal theory,
right, when establishing contact
with entities. It's, like, they need --
They need to be -- A source. Yeah,
they need an energy source in order to be able
to establish that communication. These batteries that we're using
in these mic packs are Procell batteries. I mean, these things last
for hours and hours. We haven't had this happen
on any investigation so far. Anna, are you the woman that
people see in this building? ♪ If so, can you make that --
the light go off, please? ♪ [ Device beeps ] Yeah. Anna, do you have a message
that you would like to relay? [ Device beeps ] Yeah. Is it about this hotel? ♪ Or is it something you
just want to tell Mary, in particular? [ Device beeps ] Yep. It's very possible that we were
speaking with Anna tonight. Holy moly. So we kind of really have to go
through the analysis and have a better understanding
of what is going on here. Alright. Brian and Richel in
the kitchen restaurant area. Brian: Yeah, so, we've got
audible voices. We're closing
the kitchen up. They heard that. They've seen what appears
to be a woman. In white. In white. Yes. So, let's find us a good spot. Richel: So, after Anna passed
away, there were three owners after her
that committed suicide -- Ben, Conrad, and Tom. so we're gonna go in there
and see if we can communicate
with any of 'em. You want to start
an EVP session? Sure. So, it's Brian and Richel. We are clearly here to... [ Device beeps ] Oh. ...talk to you. ♪ Was that you? Conrad? ♪ Is Ben here? ♪ Anna? [ Device beeps ] Yes? Brian: Do you know anything
about the past owners committing suicide? ♪ I don't know. I definitely
felt like it was responding... Well, look at it. ...to the questions. It's doing nothing like it
was doing earlier. Brian: I don't know that
we made contact. We are getting some
strange activity going on. I can't say that
it's paranormal, but it could be an indication
that something is going on. Is the Lady in White you,
Anna? ♪ ♪ Kristen:
Daryl and I are investigating Room 350, where previous
owner Tom Rogers committed suicide in 1962. Daryl: So, setting up
the TriField and data logger, let's try talking
to the past owners. Guests have claimed to have
felt like they were being grabbed
by someone when they've
stayed in this room. Hi. My name's Kristen. This is Daryl. We're here, in particular,
to speak with Tom. Tom, I heard that you like
to wander the halls by yourself here. Is that true? ♪ We hear this was your room
at one time. Or do you still stay here, or have you moved
around the hotel? ♪ Just be quiet
for a second. What is that? [ Tapping ] Kristen: What the hell? There's somebody walking. [ Tapping ] ♪ What is that? What the hell? Daryl to team. Man: Go ahead. Is there anybody above, uh,
the third level in the hotel? Uh, aren't you guys
up there? Yeah,
we're on the third floor, but there sounds like there's
somebody walking above us. Third floor is the top level,
man. Copy that. ♪ ♪ While you were talking,
I was still listening for it, and I didn't hear anything. Yes, I didn't hear
anything in the hallway. Okay. Tom, was that you that I heard
a few minutes ago walking upstairs,
making the noise? ♪ Daryl:
We heard some walking around or something going on
in the building. This actually sounded like
it was coming from above us. With me being a contractor, I know what the sounds houses
make when they're settling, and noises of, like, HVAC and
plumbing and stuff like that. That definitely was not that. In my opinion, at this point,
it -- it could be paranormal. Let's just get out of here. ♪ ♪ Alright. Brian, Grant, and Richel. On the third floor. Richel: Kristen and Daryl
were up here earlier, and they heard
some footsteps, but weren't getting any spikes
on the data logger. We're gonna go ahead
and do an EVP session, and hopefully we hear
some noises, like voices. We'll see. My name is Grant.
This is Richel. Brian: And I'm Brian. We've come from a long ways
to come and talk with you. We were called in here
to help Mary. ♪ We know many of the people
here are afraid. Should they be afraid? ♪ Don't hold back. We're really willing to talk
to anyone who's here. But if you talk to us, we'd like
to talk about the struggles you were having
in your life. How difficult
that was for you. ♪ Just tell us about that
or tell us about yourself. ♪ We're really just trying
to hear your story and -- and figure out
how we can help you or Mary. ♪ Hey,
Brian's coming to look. Don't be afraid. Just making sure
it's you or not. ♪ ♪ Hmm. Did you find it? No. ♪ ♪ Brandon: Alright, this is
Brandon and Mustafa. We are in the bath house. Mustafa: Brandon and I are about
to investigate the bath house, and we're bringing
a recorder with us. This is gonna be
our primary tool for this investigation here. People have reported
feeling pretty gnarly in there. There's a lot of bad feelings
in the bath house area, and we're going to see
if we can establish contact with an entity
that can provide us an answer as to whether or not the
suicides that took place here have anything to do
with the phenomena that people are experiencing. If there's anyone in here
with us tonight, this is -- Again, my name is Brandon,
and this is Mustafa. So if we can, you know, kind of start
a conversation here... if you understand, can you make the light
go off, please? ♪ [ Device beeps ] What the heck? I know. Right away. Quick. Can you back away from that, just so we know
that you're here? ♪ We were talking about
the way this hotel's run and how Mary is -- has her hands full here. [ Device beeps ] It just went off
when you said "Mary." [ Device beeps ] ♪ could you let us know?
Or you could speak into that red light in that
little device over there. [ Device beeps ] Alright. [ Whirring ] We got A.C. kicking on. [ Device beeping ] Whoa. Ah, that's... [ Beeping continues ] Well, since the A.C. unit
kicked on, it's consistent. Cons-- Consistently going. Yep. Oh. [ Beeping continues ] I'm gonna grab this and do
an EMF sweep. [ Device beeping ] Look at that. Ooh! Holy moly. Mustafa: Dude. [ Device beeping rapidly ] It's hitting up to
like 7 1/2 milligauss. Are you kidding me? As much as we wanted to believe that we were establishing
contact with an entity, which is really, really,
really exciting, we quickly found that
there was actually EMF spikes all over the bath house. There's definitely EMF
in here. Hey, guys, we're detecting EMF
in this place that's coming
from power sources. Over. Grant: Copy. Why don't we wrap it up? Brandon: As far as trying
to use this as a tool, our means of communication
it's not... No. We're compromised here,
dude. ♪ ♪ So, night 1 was interesting. You know, we were getting
some activity at first. Anna, are you the woman that
people see in this building? [ Device beeps ] Yeah. But then Brandon and Mustafa found these really high EMFs
in the bath house. Look at that. Ooh! Mustafa: Holy moly. It can really call
into question everything we've experienced
so far. Because it's difficult
to discern between man-made
electromagnetic fields and real
paranormal activity. And that's something
we have to consider. And on top of that, the mineral
spring water in this hotel
could be a factor. So I'm gonna arrange to have
a professional come in today and analyze that for us. We'll see. Dr. Brooks: Hi. Dr. Brooks, how are you? Grant. Pleasure.
Pleasure, pleasure. Nice to meet you.
Marj Brooks. Daryl.
Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you, too, Daryl. Yeah. So, let's give you
a little context. A lot of places that have
mineral water in the ground underneath it tend to produce
more claims of paranormal. Okay. We would like for you to
get various different samples. One of the pieces of information
that we really want to get... Mm. ...is the conductivity
of each different sample. Right. Okay. You know, a lot of what
happens in the paranormal seems to revolve
around energy. Electromagnetic fields. That absolutely makes
sense to me. Yeah. So, we called in Dr. Brooks
to come in and sample
the water from its source... Wow. I mean, it's right there. Yes. This has some history. Check it out. So, I'll just lower this in. Whoa! This is
crazy-high conductivity. My readings
are 1,158 microsiemens for conductivity. ...and then sample the water
that people soak in in the tubs. Conductivity's gonna be
about the same -- 1,155. ...and then sample the tap water
from the municipal water system. Conductivity
is 474 microsiemens. Right. It's roughly a third
of the spring water. Yeah. Grant:
So, thanks to Dr. Brooks, we found out that the mineral
water beneath the hotel is three times as conductive
as normal tap water, and that's a lot. So, if the water is highly
conductive, then anything, any electromagnetic field,
would be magnified by this, and that could cause
people to feel there's paranormal
activity when there isn't. -Alright, see you later.
-Thank you, Doctor. Dr. Brooks: Bye-bye. Alright, bye. Wow. ♪ ♪ ♪ Brandon and Mustafa found really high electromagnetic
fields in the bath house, and this kind of calls
into question everything
they've experienced and we've experienced
here so far. So I really want to make sure
we do a thorough EMF sweep
of the entire building. Richel: This is Brian,
Grant, and Richel. We're in the hotel
on the second floor. Daryl:
This is Daryl and Kristen. We're doing an EMF sweep
in the men's bath house. Brandon: This is Brandon and
Mustafa in the restaurant. So, Mary's desk is on the
other side of all this stuff. [ Device beeping ] Yep. Look. It's coming
right through the wall. -Yep.
-Mm-hmm. 'Cause it's just panel.
Look at this. My gosh. Oh, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. [ Device beeping ] Oh. What do you got there? This room is just filled
with it. Look at that.
That's crazy. Every desk. [ Device beeping ] -Look at that.
-Oh, wow. The EMF is really high. High EMF. Look at this. [ Device beeping ] Mustafa: Oh, yeah. Wow. Wow.
The EMF is crazy in here. You know, I want
to get out of here. Well, I think we found the
explanation for the discomfort in the men's bath house. Yeah, I agree. ♪ Brandon:
Okay, this is rolling. This is Grant, Brandon,
and Mustafa in the restaurant. Grant: The --
The main reports in here are a couple of sightings
of the woman in white. We did find high
electromagnetic fields around the entire building, and so the next thing
we want to do is also check for infrasound. If we have high EMF
and infrasound, that could really give us
some answers here. You want to go kind of
set up in the middle up there? Yeah. Yeah, let's do that.
It's perfect. Infrasound is any sound
below our range of hearing -- technically below 20 hertz. Now, if that sound is also
loud enough, if it's over 90 decibels, that's when it starts
to affect us in negative ways. And at very specific
frequencies, it can really make you feel
like you're having a legitimate paranormal
experience when you're not. So, this microphone is designed
to really have a wide spectrum. This can get down to 5 hertz. And we're rolling on this. The cause of infrasound can be
anything from a train going by, a plane overhead, mechanical
equipment in the location, or just something
natural beneath the earth. Alright, so, let's see
if we can get this going, huh? ♪ Here's 20 hertz. So if we see anything down on
this range that's above 90... ♪ Bam. Right there. ♪ Yep, 17 hert
right there. , That's below, yeah. So, we found that, indeed,
there are some things here that are creating
the right type of sound that could make people
feel very uncomfortable. No, I saw it, too.
I saw it. It spik--
It spiked above 90. It looked like it was
about like 93, 94. Whatever's happening out here,
it's loud, you know. Consistently. Hovering, like, above 90
or 90, right there. Right below it, right --
or right above it. It averages
about 90 decibels. ♪ Something we need
to consider. I mean, it's -- something's
happening below 20 hertz and above 90 decibels. Your brain's gonna try
to make sense of it. Especially if your head's
full of, you know, stories about entities. ♪ Alright, guys.
Let's call it a night, then. Let's regroup, and we'll figure
out a game plan for tomorrow. ♪ So, we just wrapped up
night 2 here, and another
telling investigation. What's really fascinating
is the fact that there are
two sides to this. On one hand, I think we're
solidly disproving a lot of what could cause
the general reports here. That being said, the footsteps
that Daryl and Kristen experienced on the third floor and the potential power
draw on the second floor can't really be explained
away by EMF or infrasound. And so, we're tired. We're gonna go back, get
the rest of the puzzle pieces, and hopefully even have
more information to share
with Jeremy and Mary. ♪ -Look at that.
-Oh, wow. Grant: Bam. Right there.
Look. There's proof. Brian's coming to look. Well, I'm reviewing the footage
from The Original Springs Hotel. Interesting case. It's hitting up to
like 7 1/2 milligauss. Are you kidding me? A lot of EMF. There's tons of EMF going on. You know, it's easy to get
frustrated when you discover factors
that compromise the findings we've made. Hi. I'm definitely gonna be
looking for EVPs. Grant: But you can't let those
emotions get in the way. What are we after?
We're after the truth. And if something
frustrates our findings or counters our findings,
then that's the truth. And that's what we embrace. What is that? It sounded like footsteps. It went on for a good,
maybe 10 seconds. It got louder as it moved. [ Tapping ] It's very important to have
patience and determination and a desire
to find the truth, and that's exactly
what this team has. Back to work. ♪ Grant: Guys, it's good
to see you again. -Yeah.
-Good to see you guys. We're glad to be here,
yeah. We came in here,
and the main concern that we seem to get from you,
Jeremy, was, based on the tragic history
of the owners of this place, "Is my mother at risk?" Yes. Is there any danger of her
going the same route as the three owners
who ended their own lives? So, the first thing we wanted
to figure out was if any of the previous owners
are still here at the hotel. Okay. And to that end, it seems
like two of our teams may have communicated
with a possible entity. We have these devices that
are called data loggers, and they measure
electromagnetic fields, temperature, air pressure,
humidity, as well as movement. But we can also use them
to communicate. So, first is our team,
Brian and Richel, who investigated
in the restaurant. We are clearly here to... [ Device beeps ] Richel: Oh. ...talk to you. [ Device beeps ] ♪ Is the Lady in White you,
Anna? ♪ [ Device beeps ] -That's crazy.
-So, that's interesting. And then we had our team
members Brandon and Mustafa
investigate the bath house. We were talking about
the way this hotel's run and how Mary is -- has her hands full here. [ Device beeps ] Brandon: It just went off
when you said "Mary." Hmm. And then this is an experience
that -- that Daryl and Kristen had up on the third floor. Daryl: Yeah. Everyone's perfectly still. Daryl: Just be quiet
for a second. What is that? [ Tapping ] Kristen: What the hell? There's somebody walking. There was no one above us.
I can't explain it. -Mm.
-It was pretty intense. Kendra: Yeah.
Mm. Grant:
Now, that being said, there are
some bigger things at play here that we need to focus on. ♪ [ Device beeping ] Whoa. ...what we did find were
high electromagnetic fields around the entire
building. -Look at that. Ooh!
-Holy moly. Mustafa: Dude. If you look, you can see. We have this data logger,
and what we're looking for is anything that's about
a -- a 4 milligauss or higher, and we found that a lot. Mustafa: It's going crazy. So that can explain away a lot
of just the odd feelings. That's a symptom of high EMF,
is feeling uncomfortable. Okay. We also decided
that we were gonna check for what's called infrasound. When there's infrasound below
20 hertz but above 90 decibels,
we typically can't hear, but we start to feel it. And that's effects can be
discomfort, feeling paranoia. Here's a chart, and you can see
right in the 17-hertz range, there's an average above
90 decibels. And right in that range,
in particular, people tend to feel like
they're having an encounter with an entity of some type. So this could explain the
sightings of a lady in white. Unfortunately, we can't say
for sure if the EMF we detected was due to paranormal activity
or man-made factors. Oh, that's interesting. Now, one of the things we really
wanted to look into here was, what makes this place unique? Why it exists
in the first place. And that's the spring water
underneath it. So Daryl and I brought in
Dr. Brooks, and what we were looking
for specifically was the conductivity
of the water. Whoa! This is crazy-high
conductivity, it looks like. So, why do we care about it
conducting electricity? Let's put it all together. Infrasound, high electromagnetic
fields, amplified by the huge mineral lake
you're sitting on here. -Wow.
-Huh. Interesting, right? Interesting. -Yes, it's very interesting.
-Yeah, right. You combine this type of
natural environmental condition with the stories, and you can see
how it could compound. Mm-hmm. Now, this doesn't mean
that people are in danger by coming here. It's perfectly safe. It can just have this effect
on people. There are ways to insulate
against that. You can have an electrician
come in, insulate as much as possible. It doesn't mean there's
nothing paranormal here. It just means that if we can
figure this stuff out and insulate against it, then people are more likely to
have a genuine experience. Sure. Sure. Right? So, one of the major concerns
from you, Jeremy --
"Is my mother at risk?" -Yes.
-I work as a therapist, and so I talk with people who may be having
these types of thoughts. And I'd like to know, too,
with you, Jeremy, if there was not this traumatic
history in this hotel, would you even think that that would be a road
that your mother would go down, or something you'd be
concerned for her? Probably not. No. Yes, okay. And that happens, you know. We have --
We hear of these stories, and we become suggestible to it,
and so that makes sense. But in Mary's situation,
her life is different than what we know of the three owners
that did take their lives. A major one is that she has
a family that loves and supports her. You even talked about
missing your grandchildren and wanting to spend
more time with them. Mm-hmm. And so I also really encourage
you to find that balance. You know, life is short. -Yeah.
-Time is short. Spend time with the ones
you love. You know, sometimes when you get
so close to the forest, you can't see the trees. And I think I need to step back
from the forest a little bit and enjoy
the trees a little bit. Well, we want to thank
you guys very much for trusting us with this place.
-Yes. It's a very wonderful,
hospitable place. -Thank you, guys.
-You're welcome. Jeremy: She's always heard it
from us and her family that she needs
to take time for herself. I think having somebody else
from the outside looking in and saying it, she'll definitely
take that a little bit -- a little bit
more to heart. -Whoo. Breezy.
-Oh, yeah. Mary: I was very impressed with
what they had to share. Kristen had some really
positive aspects for me. Kind of opened my eyes
up a little bit, and kind of took
a little step back. And I need to revalue some
things. -Take care, man.
-Thanks, guys. Thanks, guys. -Bye.
-Bye. -Bye, guys.
-Take care. -Thank you.
-It's not uncommon for reports
of paranormal activity and our investigations
to bring families together. I feel like our visit has given
Jeremy and Kendra a chance to express
their concerns to Mary. Considering there's
no indication of aggressive paranormal
activity at all in the hotel, and the fact that her family
clearly loves and cares for her, I'm confident that Mary
is gonna be just fine. As it turned out, the solution
in this case was less about the paranormal and more about focusing
on our loved ones while they're still alive. ♪