From Introvert to Extrovert - Ice Poseidon's Story (Paul Denino)

Paul veneno that are known by his online alias ice Poseidon is a 24 year old live streamer who from humble beginnings as a somewhat introverted runescape streamer has since then helped pioneer many aspects of IRL streaming and is regarded by some as a king of IRL due to the strong and unique connection he has formed with his viewers but all this has come at a price the price of sellings privacy for the content he produces this with a lack of moderation of his streams makes him a target from viewers with malicious intent that had been rejected from other communities although these viewers make up only a small portion of his community there are arguably the most impactful on his life through small aggressions such as getting him kicked out of stores to organizing a fake bomb threat that made national headlines and will later see him banned from his initial streaming platform this and a few other things were only served to distance them from his viewers and bring up several accusations of him flying or simply trying to deceive his community whether it's hiring actors to pose as police officers to over a five-month period continually lying about a breakup with his girlfriend this and no doubt would take a serious emotional toll on him and turn a large portion of his fan base against him which will lead to a decline in viewership which is where he is now and as for finding out how this transition happened what a better place to start then from the beginning raised in a gated community in Storer Florida paws upbringing as described by him was not a pleasant one in an interview with his mother and Zidane II know if she reveals that at a young age that Paul was very shy and desperate to make friends which he would later make but in unexpected places as when he was 12 a neighbor introduced him to the MMORPG runescape where he would console a random name generator that would give him the name ice beside n' it was around this time that he will find an interest in making runescape music videos where he would overlay a popular song over footage of runescape through this who'd find another video maker and make his first true friend grey Sean also known as Volta said but the commonality wouldn't be limited to video making as they both play large roles in the runescape glitching community and due to his notoriety he would also befriend the popular cotton creator silent core that may have influenced eyes to make more videos ice would also make a couple hundred dollars by selling in-game for gold and traded that gold for real-life currency which along with bug abuse was against the games rules but he would never be caught back to the real life ice whip play runescape sometimes 18 hours a day and on occasion he would get up before school play then immediately after he got back he'll hop back on and repeat the cycle this will play further into his lack of social experience and may have caused many outburst at his school where he would do such things to gain the attention of his peers and maybe make a friend but due to his introverted nature this would usually not work in his favor it was also around this time that he would be diagnosed with Asperger's which is a form of autism and would take trial this meant to sedate him this as he recalls would only make his life more miserable as he continued to get into trouble and hot from school to school he would also spend time in a camp for troubled teens fast forward to the age of 15 I was in high school and would enjoy doing prank calls with one of his runescape friends using Skype and one of the calls targeted his high school where the previous calls were fairly in good nature this one would have a consequential impact on his life as during the prank call his friend told the school secretary that there was a bomb in the school were in a panic eius would hang up the call and amoenus tranfers saying something that they both knew could get them in serious trouble but both trusting the anonymity of the call had little to fear until 6 a.m. the following day when his house was raided by police and his computer would be taken for evidence where it was determined that he was not the one that made the bomb threat and was left off relatively easy but this combined with his outburst at school where at one point he publicly and loudly asked a member of staff if they were good at performing sexual acts of an oral nature it was at this point where the school gave him an ultimatum either get kicked out of school or join a theater summer camp hosted by the school to build character which he then enrolled in although eius will not make any long-lasting friends through this camp he did find something enjoyed which was the stage the attention he craved as a child was finally something that he was getting he also quit taking his medication and cold turkey and would start a job at Dunkin Donuts which he will leave after a short amount time fast forward to his high school graduation he began studying for bachelors in finance and would attain a job as a cook at a seafood restaurant known as chowderheads but two years later at the age 20 his interest in school would slowly dissipate and he would stop attending school and after he got his associates degree he would also be fired from his managerial position at chowderheads after leaving an oven on overnight but he would be quick to find work as a line cook in an Italian restaurant and take an internship and an investment banking company which was related to his degree field all while continuing to play runescape and to be more specific smoking marijuana and closing doors on players at ruin scape house parties in order to impede their progress and generally troll them for his personal pleasure he will later decide to record this and on January 9 2015 closing doors was uploaded to ice Poseidon's YouTube channel where he will commentate over himself doing just that today what I'm gonna do is close the door on the guy who owns this house as part of my closing the door an old school runescape series so right now I'm gonna have this guy Travis killed so there's a green dog on map and I know when he's running to me to try kick me I can run off the ice that Green Dot reinforcement so right now I'm closing the door you've time to get it up these videos will be uploaded to Brune scapes subreddit where they would get a fair amount of views and a moderate amount of upvotes he would continue to upload various prank videos but the one that stood out from the rest was closing doors for this video would make it to the front page of the subreddit and although a bit reluctant about the idea at first with the encouragement of his fans eyes announced that he'll began to stream Brune scape on Twitch a popular streaming platform with a focus on gaming this Friday May 15 at 7 p.m. Eastern Time 11:00 p.m. GMT I will be streaming Isis approach to this was more intuitive than most as he knew to make it on such a competitive platform he would have to stand out from the competition so he would need a gimmick something the viewers could remember him by and leave last the impact his gimmick would be where he would wear a suit and tie and only show his torso while streaming leaving him somewhat anonymous but he would later reveal the lower part of his face and eventually give up on the gimmick and what reveal is faced at the stream and adapt a shirt and tie which he had a large variety of likely due to his internship a little after this first month of streaming he would earn his first hundred dollars which were prompting to quit his job as line cook and also quit his internship as he saw potential and streaming this would help grow the stream as he could spend more time online but this would also have an unintended consequence as it furthered his isolation after the third month is streaming I instead accumulated over four thousand dollars in donations a big part of his growth was due in part to his clickbait titles that would advertise and plan the Deadman moon beta in runescape when he was actually just in a normal PvP world although at the time he was not the only channel doing this he was the one that retained viewers for the longest period of time this will lead him to gain at peak times around 900 viewers and when the long-anticipated Deadman mode was released almost overnight his concurrent viewer base would jump from 900 to 4000 he also adapted more gimmicks to build his character most notably is a tongue thing where he would puckers lips leaving enough room to move his tongue firm left to right in a rapid motion and the arm thing where he will flail azar wildly most importantly he would find a name for his community being the purple Armie the name comes from purple dots on a player's mini-map that are usually white but if those players were in your clan chat they would appear as purple though there is streaming career these gimmicks for the most part would fade away except for one that stood out from the rest a simple two letter phrase see X which when turned 90 degrees counterclockwise makes a face fans would spam CX and other streamers chance to notify each other when ice was live or practically any reference relating to ice Poseidon which although might have anoint of the streamers it gave ice free publicity this with a relatively unmoderated champ meant that icy streams was where you as the viewer could truly run rampant in the politically exhausting environment that at the time was affecting a lot of people isis chat gave much freedom and would support the streams unpredictable nature this and the addition of saw requests was something truly unique to not only i as a stream but to his community where viewers would pay money to donate songs that ice would then play on stream many of these songs would be altered to troll eyes as users would include clips of racial slurs racial stereotypes or just a harmless reference to the stream [Music] all right whoo ice fan you are now a band see you later you are I'm sorry you're bad Jer do you think that's funny your band now homemade so go suck a dick in early 2016 as the dead man hype was dying down I stood alternate doing different events on runescape one of these activities was staking which in essence is a gambling minigame that has the same odds of winning as a coin toss eius would take donations from viewers to fuel this activity and one day he was given the equivalent of 10,000 dollars worth of runescape currency which he would go on to lose but through some kind of miracle eius was able to slowly earn it back and I should mention the intensity of this stream was unparalleled by any other and will catch the attention of many viewers outside of runescape this stream would take him to the front page of twitch and firmly establish him among the twitch community after this he would begin to gravitate more towards variety streams where he would experiment playing different types of games and the most popular by far out of any variety game that he played during this time period was V time a virtual reality game where you can interact and speak to other virtual reality users where normally Isis interactions were limited to his chat and the occasional call from a streamer or viewer his social interactions with strangers and his flamboyant personality were the focus of these streams and the fact that these streams were successful is a testament to ices adaptability and started to show him that the people watching him weren't so much interested in runescape or the other games he played but instead him as a person as he was a strange wild energetic blank slate that most introverts could easily project themselves onto as this became more apparent to eyes he would try to find ways to stream without needing to play a game and with the release of the social eating category On June of 2016 gave him the perfect excuse to do so with his experience as a line cook ice would stream himself preparing meals in his home and eating them in front of his viewers and not even a month later the popular mobile game Pokemon Go would be released which was essentially the birth of real-life streaming so one day after Pokemon go was released ice took to the streets with his laptop at headset and various other devices that would allow him to stream in public all while scarcely playing Pokemon go the highlights of these dreams were the live interactions he would have with strangers all while retaining his hinge personality and whether it was Isis enthusiasm his cumbersome setup or the fact that the people he was interacting with were on camera would usually mean that they would play in to Isis wacky skits and while all seem to be going great in the ISIS your ship and wealth grew exponentially higher behind the scenes in an uncharacteristically serious stream eius would reveal he has a deep sadness crushing him and the lack of meaningful communication with anyone including his parents that he lives with but rarely talked to men that although he was doing well streamwise the pressure to make good content and the harassment he received when he felt that he failed would take an emotional toll on him I don't talk to anybody like I don't even talk to my parents like I don't I gotta live with my parents but we maybe talk to words like two words a day - maybe a sentence a day like ireally we don't talk at all to argue a stuff that's not talking though that's not the kind of talking you want to do you know and I already have anybody else see you guys are like if any of theirs anybody in here watching you're like the one who I'm you know what I mean talking to and letting this off my chest with with you guys being the only people that I actually talked to when half of those people do nothing but to try to piss you off you know over the course of a few months it starts to it just kinda it just starts to sink in and I was reading in the chat this guy he was like oh he's got your money you subbed to him he's just it's just for the money I mean honestly dude it's really not for the money money doesn't make me happy I mean you know what I mean dude it's you would think it would I used to say you know you would think money makes you happy but it really doesn't I mean oh you know there's a number in my bank account I don't have to worry about you know [ __ ] anymore but there's how big things I can't even do is I don't know man I just try to do the best that I can and I do man the streams are good I think for most of the time but when I have one bad strain like I feel like a [ __ ] it's right now man but I just have other like I just man I don't know there's other issues as well when you just don't talk to anybody so long this gets to you and I know I should like not sleep for so long and I could go out and do [ __ ] I just don't know how to go out and meet people man without having like like I don't like usually you meet people at like a job or like school or something there's I don't know how there's no there's no way for me to do that there's no job no school I just honestly I just don't know what I'm sad about everyday I just have this underlining sadness I just don't understand why and I've kept everything in for the past 21 years this is [ __ ] hard man especially like when you talk to people it's easy to keep yourself it's easy to keep everything in when you actually talk to people but not having gone out and talking to people if like eight months now it's hard dude it's hard this made things a lot more real in a sense I wasn't entirely a character and it was more genuine than he would lead on this would have any fans SWAT two eyes and support as his relatability with his struggles was a widespread with many of his viewers though this would do little to sate those targeting him as less than three months later I saw stab ed on stream meaning that he would have to jump in his swimming pool so he Skyped his phone through his computer to streaming self outside and since he was away from his computer he wouldn't be able to moderate nor hear donations so viewers took advantage of this and played racist donations in order to try to get ice banned this would hit Isis twitch channel with a week-long been more than twice the length of his previous ban that was applied for the same reason and a month later on the exact same day IRL streaming was released on Twitch ice would ask for a girl's number and he would receive him but he forgot to mute a stream so he had just lead to girls number two everyone watching yeah I mean I I dumped and I leaked the number and my next ban would be a month which is really annoying he would then turn the stream off to do a follow up with this girl where it was revealed she received just three calls from viewers and although she felt it was unnecessary eius would go on to pay her $500 as a form of compensation though this did little to dissuade twitch as his new 45-day ban would still take effect for leaking a stranger's personal information the lack of streaming would give eyes time to decide in what direction he wanted to take his life and later announced instead of saving money to purchase a house he would move to Los Angeles to produce more interesting content and move in with his childhood friend oldest addict this saw drastic changes in eyes to social life we're in Florida he would have the rare stream sniper and maybe partake in a Skype call with a viewer but in California within the first month of streaming he would have established a manager met several fans some of which would become his close friends and will get into contact with many other content creators the most notable at the time being the former TV personality Andy Milonakis which he would stream with frequently with this attention he would also attract stalkers a great example of this would be Andy later given the name Mexican Andy by Isis fan base as not to get in confused with Andy Milonakis this trend of naming unmemorable characters on stream by what stands out most about them followed by Andy would be something unique to Isis stream and will later catch on and influence other streams that was also around this time when ice would begin today a twitch streamer being Haley at East oh and had many eventful interactions such as jokingly getting married and later attended Dreamhack a festival that emphasizes technology but this would never happened as on April 27 2017 while waiting for his flight at the airport he will leak his flight number I'm feeling way worse but I'm still streaming yeah great thanks for the sub depreciate it I don't know dude I might be terminal five I don't know what I don't know where I am I'm just on fifty-three a is my that's my gate and I'm not sure telling you guys that is a good idea but what can you possibly do right although he has done this in the past and nothing has come of it but this time a viewer would called the airport and tell authorities that ice had a bomb in his backpack this would lead to police removing eyes from the flight and evacuating the plane and search of a bomb this made national headlines and put twitch is a streaming platform in a tough position were they decided in order to avoid bad PR they would have to cut ties with him and ban him permanently from twitch so now all twitch streamers that he had befriended Co no longer have him or his likeness appear on stream this would be an understandably difficult time for ice but either through resilience or his spiteful nature he quickly denounced which and switched to YouTube as a streaming platform I mean we are the purple army so there's no way we're just gonna stop and disperse and become irrelevant in the world of the and in the world we are going to continue to grow and continue to maintain ourselves and we are gonna continue to expand our horizons and after all this we'll see where we are in six months we'll see what's going on with YouTube in six months and there is an appeal process and I could appeal the twitch and I could potentially get unbanned depending on what's going on in six months oh yeah the interesting news that I was talking about that I did post on Twitter about YouTube actually did invite me to a VIP section of VidCon and we are going to talk about how to create YouTube live and make it the direct competition to twitch so that in a few months we are the people who revolutionized the civil war that is against twitch and we are bringing it down and creating which YouTube live and to a surprise he found that most of his community had migrated platforms to watch him it should be noted that there was also a transition in the continuous producing where he was once primarily focused on streaming games and okay we streamed IRL now the roles were reversed where the meat of his content was the IRL streams he did though through this process he lost viewers but also gained many that preferred his newer streams that was also around this time that ice would start making an average of $20,000 a month he would also allow his subreddit to make major decisions in his life one of which being who he would date I want you guys to control my life I mean I do I know that sounds really weird but I thing this is what I have in like an idea for the livestream I want you guys to control every like every aspect of my life and it seems really fun weird I'm not saying like no don't do stupid football I call it like I'm gonna be Keith like my location more secretive but I like that reddit is pretty much going to be like my mother it's what I'm saying when you suggest things in that reddit you are suggesting how I'm going to change and manipulate my own life Haley dude I like Haley man like I don't know man I like her dude I've never I never felt this way before towards a woman and as reddit picked geisha a model and former Miss World Dominican Republic our reluctant is would tell Haley about the situation were in a later stream she would comment this I helped him when he was suicidal I talked to him every night I let him cry and and he threw me underneath the bus because he wanted to reconcile with geisha but he basically was like he didn't even like geisha he told me that he hated her and he wanted nothing to do with her that he wanted to be close with me off stream but pretend to be close with geisha on stream and you know like that that caused like some bead between us and then because I wasn't accepting of it he took me up to the rooftop that night that geisha came over for that date and he asked me to be his girlfriend and I told him that I just wanted to be bros and I think I think when you're content creator and you're thrown up in front of people you have a lot of people that look up to you um and you know I've said some things that I regret you know what I mean but pressure happens and I can't take it back I can only learn from my mistakes which in another stream is what amid his flaws and comment further on the situation I lied to getcha and we will sleep it over of my apartment I'm sorry I'm a idiot I always want to try and please whoever's in front of me so go along with everything on the process I was lost a very important asset from my life and that it was Haley I how do I just completely and we needed her from life completely she was there for me well they're really fun she is there for me and what everyone else was gone I was really sad and depressed my path and my a pathological liar yeah I should I keep of my life to stream I don't know makes me happy but then I'll just get up and just other things when I'm down to YouTube from twitch I told you all that I sacrificed my real life for this real life streaming life which means that everybody is in on my life and there's a no blurred line between the stream and myself and it's it's hard sometimes to intertwine those things because your people deal with things like this it's just between you and the girls but now it's between the girls and everybody puts me in my place though it really puts me in my place and helps me I track and understand that you know what's wrong and what's right so for that I appreciate you what is shown throughout this ordeal is his attempt to separate his stream life from his personal life as even though it may provide in content he regrets allowing his viewers to take so much control over his life and would follow further suggestions cautiously he would also have an eventual falling out with geisha but his streams would flourish as throughout the course of the next four months he would go on to attend several conventions and collaborate with other well-known creators he would also tour Europe and stream his adventures there ice was finally achieving the vision he had for his streams but in his personal life he was still missing a companion which on August of 2017 is when Cara Lambert will come along and with her she would bring a considerable amount of drama as during the double date she had with eyes she was still seeing her boyfriend and after the double date ended she'll go back to her boyfriend's house and stay the night but due to the date with eyes this will cause conflict within their relationship which will cause him to break up and she would then drift closer to eyes but the thing is she kept all this the secret which is where the drama comes in hi I'm here Jordan after the date after Paul and Caroline went on the date she came home and crawled in bed with me because it was not real and I broke up with her after that because I told her not to do it you want me to I'll turn it off you're not screaming for real it's up to you men kind of made her look bad so you should leave it on you have some kind of claim Oh [Music] joey said i dude i don't care that's why i didn't make a video exposing you like three months ago although she brought this type of drama with her she could still do much for ice as she could potentially suppress a stress from constant swatting harassment evictions and general and personal lifestyle he was living as ice has a somewhat open-door policy at his house meaning that practically at anytime you could visit his house and chat with him and he might even have you to the streaming network he's developing as long as he could use you to create content so at any given point there would be strangers in his house some even spend the night sleeping on his couch azure just a floor but again this will be a massive sacrifice and privacy for boost and a streaming career and what enclosed what little he had left of his personal life even further this and the disapproval that his fans had her caroline would grow further when she became his girlfriend which would distance him further from his community but ice was a happier person around this time that can also be attributed to his visit with his parents on November of 2017 for Thanksgiving he would cite this as an extremely happy experience I the same my parents is so long it's really nice to it's like you don't understand how much you miss your parents until you hang out with them after you've been away for a while you know what I mean like you know it's it's an emotional dude it's like a wholesome I get oh it's nice sorry I'm not trying to get like all like Tyrion just man I just feeling like just like a really like emotional earlier cuz it's just like I don't know you just you get like I'm like happy dude it's what it is I was just like hard to talk when you're happy because yeah you just feel happy from you know I just haven't been happy for a long time so you know I come these these things it's like stories just been a while since I felt happy so it's like you know I hear these like stories but you know from these people that I grew up with they're like proud so I wanted dude so it's like all I ever wanted in life just be able to be proud but the relations he had was community would continue to struggle or before their displeasure was usually targeted at Isis and ability to sustain a consistent stream in schedule and the occasional isolate mo now still within the timeframe of November 2017 there were accusations and somewhat strong evidence that I hired actors to pose as police officers to fake a police report that Caroline's car had been stolen with the goal being to cancel his next couple of streams to spend time with Caroline again these are only accusations but regardless the community was not sated and for most fans the problem wasn't that he wanted to spend time with Caroline it was how he tried to appease both sides with lies as they would begin to feel strong deception from someone that they felt they could previously trust whether it was a contention between the two on how to manage a public relationship and streaming at the same time or simply that he wanted to please his community on January 4th of 2018 ice would announce said he had broken up with Caroline this would please a large portion of his community congratulations aren't breaking the brainwashing we almost lost you okay - thanks bro advance kid thank you for the sponsor dog and yeah okay check this out I guess I'll just break I'll just say this Holmes bring it up dude because people are some people are just stupid so alright check this out why in the would I fake breakup that doesn't make any goddamn sense I mean think about it like this if I get caught fake breaking up do you not think that would be very detrimental to my career I mean it would and do you think I would really take that risk but others would speculate if the breakup was another life which they were right to do so as we will later find out the breakup was indeed real but it only lasted three days as in secret ice reached out her and began dating her again but this time in an open relationship while to his fans he would continue to support the narrative that he was single and was avoiding contact with her but that lie can only last so long as almost exactly five months after the breakup on day 11 on an RV trip that ice had taken with his auntie's and a few independent content creators while at a resort in Horseshoe Bay Texas Caroline was accidentally shown on stream which is where more drama ensued here it was revealed that eius had had sexual relations with Caroline's friend and though it was obvious to the viewers that the breakup was all a ruse I is persisted to belittle Caroline on stream in order to continue the act this did not play to his favor what are you doing nope none of them are here security he said the only person that's allowed to stay are the people that are on the names for the rooms so just me it's only my name on the room how does that make snow let me talk to the management you're the one who caused all this don't sit here and cry you're going to cause I'm not planning to securities you're jealous of Kaley Oh what and talk to security and I said is there a way that we can get them to stay their performers there youtubers like it's a whole misunderstanding and they said wait all those security because you're you're like arguing in the first place because you burn up punch me in the face he was saying I'm doing all these different girls below blog and he but we thought they'd hire a high-end resort and that was disrespectful of you if it wasn't me I just agree on my yeah sure serves or care they said that it was disrespectful and that you have high-end clients healthier and that was very slack Kayleigh when you're jealous fade out with you dude when were the only way to make her leave is to make her comfortable yeah it's just come here and she won't leave us alone dude I'm not all day yesterday alone I was in the room all day yesterday today I'm always what do you mean I don't leave me alone I'm always alone nobody believes you I don't know what to do the police said beep they can't take her out of the room I don't know what to do Oh make you look crazy you you're actually a little bit crazy [Music] see you later Caroline it was also revealed that he had heavily damaged a rental car that was paid for by Caroline's mother which he refused to pay the damages for this for many was the lowest point in Isis streaming career he would then fly back to Los Angeles where my request of a subreddit he would shave his head but this would do little to calm the unrest in his community as more information about the relationship had began to leak which left many viewers wondering if he can continue this life for a five-month period what else could be lying about and a stream he would do a few days later would give us more insight into why he lied it just made it more complicated you know cuz she came on stream and she really broke my trust with that so I just was like if you ever did this I would just have to break up with you and get rid of you and that's kind of what I had to do well I mean it's like it was like a complicated situation because I really wish you know I mean I could have met her when I wasn't a streamer because it's like um you know what I mean there's not that many people that care about me so it's like you know what I have to get rid of people that care about me it just kind of sucks like you know there's obvious obviously a reason why I lied it's not easy you can't just say to a community that hated somebody with a passion that you love somebody okay it's not that easy because then people just obviously give you an you know I mean it's like um it doesn't matter who you love doesn't matter who I love you know what I mean so you know there's obviously a reason why I just wanted to keep something in my personal life five months later on the trip to Iceland ice try to rejoice with Caroline once more but with no success and she had already found someone else and later on sold ice as a month later he revealed his new girlfriend but even still the viewers displeasure with Paul was still very noticeable this was most evident on a subreddit where once it was full memes and stream suggestions either due to neglect or genuine hatred had gotten so bad it had to be quarantined by reddit staff as it had devolved into a community sent out critiquing eyes and his companions and on February 21st 2019 would eventually be shut down by ice his YouTube videos would also be flooded with dislikes as many would cite the transition in South content that he was producing were his some it felt like he was trying to appeal to a more mainstream audience and had lost what had made him load by so many where it stands ice beside an is losing subscribers daily his community is regarded as one of the most toxic on the Internet and he is constantly surrounded by people they doesn't know if they genuinely like him or if they want to use his fame for their own personal advantage many disgruntled fans would say his loss in popularity was due to his transition from a hyperactive introvert who cared very little so about societal norms and was the forefront for counterculture has since become was someone unrelatable extroverted kingpin who has for the most part assimilated into generic streaming culture that somewhat cannot find a balance between his personal life and his streaming career though ice has overcome many challenges recovering the trust of his community might be the most difficult yet this is a section of the video where I give my opinion on what I think is going on with ice Poseidon right and I should ask Lowe's that I've been watching him since 2015 which is when he started streaming so I've been through his lines I've been I guess part of his community right and something for me personally is I can't stand liars I feel that if you think you can lie to me and I won't catch it you think you're better than me and you think he like you can deceive me so that's why I don't really watch him or I guess invest in personally I'll watch the stream if it's good but as a person right and I know this is biased because I'm content creator I think what he's gone through what had changed anyone and it was especially bound in him because he does what no sane person tries to do because they know the consequences and that's exposing themselves fully to the stream and if you do that if you tell us like she tell random people everything right it's harder to maintain personal relationships because how can some County like your friends trust you if you just tell like you know like strangers everything right like so what that does is it kind of makes Roley what he's trying to do him it makes his chant his viewers his community like his true friends right his best friends and what that does to a person it kind of messes them up because imagine imagine your best friend being an extremely bipolar person that one day is like hey man great streams you're doing great like I really love where this going and like another day when you like you're not doing so great where you really need that that boosts right imagine them just being like going straight after you and being like kill yourself like you suck like you know we shouldn't be streaming and although it might not feel like it like those do affect people and ice having no one really Dallas to rely on right because people don't really care what he feels is people don't care about his personal issues it really messes them up right it really does and I've talked to a lot of stream snipers and people they know like that met him and know him like kind of personally off-camera turns out like he's actually a really nice guy which you know surprised me a little bit so knowing that he is a gentle soul and how I feel like all the swatting the harassment all this that he's been through he just can't catch a break so I do really hope that he can recover from this

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Keywords: Ice Poseidon, Documentary, Entertainment, Rise and fall, where is, runescape, biography, Pual Denino, Ice, streaming, twitch, youtube, king of irl, osrs, oldschool runescape, profile piece, lofi hip hop, banned, cx network, mexican andy, asain andy, 2019, timeline, narration, video essay, from introvert to extrovert, rise and fall, live stream fails, drama, twitch streamer, youtube streamer

Id: FUZ8Mb1-LBE

Length: 42min 17sec (2537 seconds)

Published: Sat Mar 16 2019