FREE 1970's Hatz Diesel Compactor (Roller) Will it ever roll again?

[Music] what's up you guys welcome back to diesel creek this is your first time joining us my name's matt if this isn't your first time joining us you'll know that i play around with a lot of old heavy equipment uh all kind of obscure stuff that i can get my hands on i mean there's a drag line sitting right behind you guys so today we're going to be playing with compaction equipment now compaction equipment is something that i actually have the most of and that's you know for packing down dirt or rock or whatever it is it rolls it in it packs it in it makes it hard anyways compaction equipment is something that keeps multiplying around here like rabbits i don't understand why but people keep giving me compaction equipment today is no different the neighbor brought this thing down and i've mentioned in previous videos that my neighbor used to have his own excavation outfit and he had plenty of equipment sitting around and he's been in the process of cleaning up his place and he said hey you want this thing it ran last time i used it that's been a long long time ago he said i think there's something wrong with the clutch so i don't know so this makes my fifth roller i believe i've only paid for one of them i don't know why these things keep falling into my lap but they do so this is what i'm guessing is a 1970s 1970s double drum ditch compactor and you can see this is made by a master brand i believe that's the same company that's still making like torpedo heaters and whatnot uh and i believe it has a hots diesel on it it's an e71 whatever that is it looks like a hots they're kind of all made the same way this is well it's very stiff but that's a decompression release um yeah so basically what this is here you would sit this thing down in a ditch and it would pack in like underneath a pipe or above a pipe actually look at this i just noticed this co-ring which used to make all kind of equipment lots of big excavators and stuff like that uh apparently they owned master back then i don't know if they still do as far as i know co-ring doesn't even exist anymore but yeah so i don't know what that thing is that's some sort of lever uh that is a crank start that is how you start this bad boy there's no electric start um what does this thing do okay that's a throttle it still moves that guy doesn't move i'm betting that's something to do with the forward and backward i've run bigger newer versions of these things but i was working for other large contractors and that would definitely be the forward and reverse on any newer one so let's check this engine out here can you guys see in there oh there goes the spider now i don't know if you guys can tell but there ain't nothing in there now this is an air cooled diesel so that's what all these little ports are around here that should be where the air blows through and keeps this thing cool looks like there's quite a bit of mud dog or nests built up in there so that's going to be a problem if we plan on running this thing for any amount of time if we get it running what the heck is wrong with this fuel cap get on there good enough this looks like an oil bath air cleaner i'll go ahead and pop that off and take a gander filter element just kind of falls out there it doesn't look too dirty still a little bit of oil in there definitely needs some more though these oil bath filters you're supposed to fill them up to like the line there's usually always a fill line i'm guessing that's what that pink is so let's put some oil in that get this guy tucked back up in there these usually aren't supposed to come out like that this has been all the signs point this whole thing has been road hard and put up wet so the way these oil bath filters work is they actually draw the air that gets sucked into the engine down through this oil so the oil grabs all the particles that are in the air and everything settles out into the bottom and then nothing but clean air can get to the engine they actually work really well i like oil bath filters they are a bit of maintenance compared to a paper element um but they i think they work really well and they're pretty much you never really need to replace them which is cool we've got plenty of vinegar going on here i think uh i'm gonna guess that this thing's been sitting probably at least 15 years maybe longer now this thing i don't know if i mentioned it's a vibratory roller so this thing should vibrate as well as drive back and forth under its own power this is actually a really nice piece of equipment very handy um if we can get it to work right i want to say this thing's a dipstick or maybe nope that's got something to do with the injector pump i don't know what i don't know exactly what that's doing maybe that's a kill usually on diesels like this you just run the throttle all the way down to below idle and it'll kill it but maybe that's how you shut this one off i'm not sure can't be a compression release because it's something up here it could also do something with the injection pump where it pushes more fuel than it does normally i'm not sure i don't see a dipstick anywhere if that i thought that was the dipstick maybe there's a dipstick on the end of this thing nope it looks good in there nice and clean doesn't look like any moisture has gotten into it over the years he's really good about keeping everything covered up so i didn't expect there would be you know i'm looking at it here and this whole outer aluminum shell comes off that'll really get me a better peek at what's going on underneath here so let's go ahead and try to pull it off of here without ripping these things see what we can see under her address vinage oh that's cool these are i've never seen drums like this so these drums are actually instead of just being a smooth drum they have like treads on them which is nice because these things if you start trying to go up a slope with a smooth drum a lot of times they'll just slide all over the place on you it's just a pain so that's pretty cool some sort of rubber isolated drive coupler down here i think it doesn't look like it's in real good shape the rubber's kind of falling apart on it so that might be a show stopper but we can still see if we can get this thing running it might still function we don't know he told me he thought he thought it needed a clutch the last time he used it that lever does something there maybe that engages the drive or something i don't know we'll figure it out once we get it running huh yeah see there's more cooling fins down here on the bottom of the engine you can see they're just packed full of mud dauber nests so it'd be good to get this thing steam cleaned if it runs oh you know that's a solid no fluid at all on the dipstick but we are leaning pretty good so that could be part of our issue here definitely don't want to run it like that though i bet this thing weighs eight or nine hundred pounds maybe even a thousand it is not light i found the dipstick they got it hiding down here underneath the fuel line yeah it's got a little bit we'll throw a little bit more in it just to see if this thing runs and if it runs we'll heat it up and get a whole oil change going on here for what it's worth the oil that's in it looks super clean doesn't look like it's been run much with that otherwise it'd be all black i wish i knew what the heck this thing was i'm betting after we spin this thing over it's gonna drop that back down so what else i guess we need to confirm that the engine isn't even stuck i don't even know if it turns over i should have checked that before i put oil in it nothing like a good old-fashioned crank job to get your morning started it turns it does feel a bit tight though holy compression yep she's still got good compression all right this thing didn't drop back down yet that's interesting all right i set the compression release there see how she spins over with compression release much easier still quite tough um actually i think we're probably about ready to go we just need to put some boom boom sauce in the tank there and she should just uh pop off theoretically all right judging by how dry that tank is we might have a fuel line leak so i'm not gonna put much in and i'm just gonna put enough to see if we have a leak [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] all right now since this thing has been sitting so long with no fuel in it we're gonna go ahead and go through a fuel system bleed procedure so this is our fuel line coming in from the tank and you can see at the banjo bolt here there's this straight head uh you should be able to crack this thing loose i'm guessing oh yep see if we get fuel coming out of here see if we get fuel coming out of here come on yeah i think we might have a little bit [Music] i can hear the air coming out of it there we go yep we got fuel there now so we did have a good bit of air trapped in there now with something that's not electric start i'm not sure how we should do this because it's going to be an awful lot of hand cranking i'm thinking normally i would crack not the injector line here but the injector line up the top of the cylinder i would crack that loose and crank it and crank it and crank it um but since we are the crank that seems like a lot of work also when you're bleeding a fuel system like this you're going to want to keep the wide open throttle the so it would be pushing as much fuel as possible so i'm not sure which way is wide open throttle here though there's no markings left on the control up here and either way kind of seems like it could be wide open throttle you know is it all the way there or is it all the way there i i'm gonna guess it's all the way here that's that's the forward on the controls so i'm i'm gonna guess that that's wide open throttle am i right i have no idea i guess i'm gonna go ahead and crack this injector line open up here on top of the cylinder even though it seems like it's gonna be miserable of course that thing doesn't wanna spin there we go spinning now tell you what i bought these milwaukee wrenches this is like a cheap set to put in the truck and i really like them they've been good wrenches no affiliation whatsoever but i like them normally i wouldn't but i'm gonna go ahead and take this line all the way off there we go try to position that so you guys can see if we can start getting fuel out of there i guess i'm gonna go ahead and start cranking oh look at that we're getting fuel already oh well it's pushing enough fuel we can put the nut back on and just bleed that little air pocket out of it should be good that's exciting i didn't even have to crank that much but it's already winded me whoo okay i think we got just about all the air out of that line should be showtime i think huh well you can tell when that compression release kicks out whew oh man oh it's close i can see a little bit of smoke coming it wants to go man that thing's got some compression getting fat boy out of breath here come on baby fingers crossed oh [Music] nothing man that's a whole body workout all right can we dig it oh did you guys hear it i made one pop made one pop it's gonna go i can feel it this is it ready uh you got to keep resetting the compression release because after so many revolutions it shuts it off and boy you know it when it shuts off oh it's real close oh closest one yet like i know i'm getting out of shape but like this is embarrassing why is this so difficult i used to start these things all the time and i know there's going to be somebody yelling at me oh don't use ether don't use ether for gas and diesel engines it's got upper cylinder lubricant come on baby why i'm not letting this thing kick my butt oh we're real close now [Applause] [Applause] it was all oily it doesn't want to spin [Applause] row well the belt was probably already junk because there was so much oil soaked into it but she's really cooking now but it runs it runs indeed so that's pretty cool we're going to have to figure out how to loosen this whole thing up here because that's the forward and backward and it sure don't seem like it's working i have to get a new belt for that side clean the pulleys all up this side doesn't look too awful bad yeah we could try to use that i think ain't broke don't fix it right and then we got to figure out the oil for the gearbox down there and yeah but that's exciting it runs i guess we should do the right thing go ahead and bust out the good stuff here we'll go ahead and soak this baby down that's about all we can lube up i think the cable itself is sealed yeah it's up inside of this box here you can't really get to it hopefully just spraying the outside here hopefully that's where it's only rusted at let that soak in for a little bit then we'll go ahead and try to work it back and forth with a soft blow hammer see what i do for you guys i cranked that thing so long i got a blister didn't even know it and i ripped it off oh yeah smooth as butter oh yeah that's a lot nicer all right time for a little persuasion now this is a leather hammer so it's got like these leather rolled inserts here so you can hit stuff without just destroying it these are actually really nice pretty old-school tool hard to come by these days uh i call this one big bird because i had it painted yellow at one time oh okay she's moving look at that need more oil needs more croil definitely getting easier oh yeah look at that it's still pretty stiff but at least you can move it now i couldn't even budget before oh yeah the more you work it the better it gets oh this throttle just buttery smooth now yep get that on there and let it marinate a bit yet well i played around kind of cleaned up this belt a little bit definitely wore a good spot in it but i cleaned it up a little bit got some of the oil off of it so maybe it'll actually spin all the way around now pretty snug we'll go ahead and fire this thing back up and see if this thing won't move starts easy enough i don't understand why that thing won't move all right there's something wrong in this gearbox more than a belt slipping and uh it was like this before i even started it up so maybe there is some more to this some more to uh the story here so this pulley will spin so far and then it stops and then it spins all the way back and it'll stop so something in the gear box is stopping it from turning i'm not entirely sure what that might be so i guess let's go ahead and pop off this cap on the gearbox and see if we can't have a peek in there see if we see anything damaged uh getting parts for this thing is probably not gonna happen um it's pretty darn old parts are pretty unavailable for stuff like this yeah you can't see anything down through the oil filled port anyway ah grumble grumble grumble okay so like i said i think we might have an issue in this gear box this belt will spin all the way around till it hits something and then it comes all the way back and then it hits something again so we need to pull this top cover off of this gear case have a look down in there see what's going on and the only way to get into that is to remove the motor but that really doesn't look like it's going to be too hard of a job the hardest thing is going to be lifting the jeezless thing off of there because i'm sure it weighs a ton and a half so anyway let's start zipping this off of here [Applause] [Music] and two belts oh and an engine that weighs a ton hope my marbles don't land on my shorts why are you so heavy there we go that's really not too bad there we go let's get that gearbox off well somebody's looking out for me because that could have been much worse that was actually pretty easy just hope all these bolts break loose here that's one all right got all the bolts out of the cover here what's behind door number one you guys got any guesses we think we got a broken gear you think uh i don't know what else could be wrong in here oh the fluid doesn't look good i just got a glimpse of that no no that doesn't look good at all there's what's stopping us up we've got water damage on our gear teeth you guys see that that's a shame i don't know this whole thing might be junk yeah it's right there where those two water spots want to go together it just binds it up i don't know as much as i'm gonna use the thing it might last a long time like this i just gotta clean those teeth out and it'll probably run all the way around these clutches here i can't rotate that yet i don't know if i have to do something with the handle or what but the clutch pack down here if you can see that's got quite a bit of rust on it and the same with this guy here so yeah it's not looking great basically all i'm going to do is take a screwdriver here and try to jam this rust out of here if i kept working this back and forth it probably would have eventually gone but then i would have never known what the true story was in here at least this way i can try to clean everything up in here to the best of my abilities and then flush this gear case out real good so we don't have any of this rusty junk floating around in here i'm just going to go ahead and shoot that all down with some coil flush it out the bottom i don't have a vacuum out here i would vacuum it off let that soak in and get the same thing in this gear here so it looks like the gears were okay you know before the water got its way in here there's no like chunks missing out of the gears or anything like that so they should clean up pretty good really it's probably mostly surface rust with some coils now i bet it turns through yep there we go that's a full revolution we run that through a while that'll clean up pretty nice i bet so this is pretty neat you can see how this thing works we've got the gear selector in neutral there and you see this is your input shaft and your forward shaft i believe yeah so right there is the neutral position both clutches are released now when you want to throw it into forward you pull that like that and it puts this it lets the clutch engage on this side and now you've got power running through this shaft down to the output shaft for your drums here and when you want to go to reverse same thing now it engages your reverser shaft here and the power goes the other way which is pretty neat unfortunately the drums are kind of stiff from everything setting for so long you really need the engine power to break everything free here i'd like to spin these output shafts around so i could see the gears on there because i'm sure they have issues as well they might not and you know it just depends on how this thing was sitting and where the water was laying in it i can tell there is still fluid down at the bottom of this case and it's got water in it for sure i think this must be a higher and low range or something this lever back here which is pretty pretty fancy for something like this making sure none of these clutches are stuck together here i can separate all the frictions from the steels make sure nothing's hanging up on us tell you what they got a pretty neat bit of manufacturing going on with this unit this whole engine cradle assembly you know right here this t-bar runs all the way down through here up the other side is all made in one casting with the gear case see there's no seam here just a machined top that is all one cast piece together well if you broke one of those you bet you'd be expensive huh back when you could get them i'm sure you can't even get it now all right well i ran to town got the proper oil i've got this baby sitting up on a board right now and we're getting ready to drain what oil is in here out of it so probably going to see some nastiness here and before you say oh well you got it up on an angle you're not going to get it all out false the gear case is v-shaped so pretty much no matter what angle i put it on the drain plug is still directly on the bottom about 10 miles of thread on here nothing's even coming out yep there we go oh it's just delightful stuff look you can tell oh oh [Music] that's not good for the gear case huh not even oil yet it's just all water there there's a little bit of it looks like he might have had some sort of atf fluid in here at one time that's not what i'm gonna put in here so that's the kind of stuff that come out of there that's uh that's good looking stuff huh yeah we'll reuse that well i'm letting it sit here and drip for a little while yet let me go ahead and probably dump some diesel down into the gearcase try to flush this thing out a little bit better all right i got me some of this uh what's like generic tractor transmission fluid but it's supposed to be good for wet clutches and gear cases so that sounds like what we need i'm just gonna give this a little splash over everything and that'll push all the diesel out that's left in the case down there hopefully and that'll put the drain plug back in all right drain plugs back in now for the fresh oil oh uh well if only i had equipment laying around here huh i am the [Applause] equipment right everything is back together on the engine here um i guess it's the moment of truth even if the gear case wants to spin now i mean this belt's still pretty crusty but even if this thing spins the gear case we still have problems probably with our drums i think this thing's been sitting so long that the drums don't want to turn because i think in neutral this thing should push back and forth and you're you're a bigger man than me if you can push those drums because i can't get them to budge so yeah might take a little bit of back and forth work on the clutches there to uh get this thing freed up and if that doesn't work then i think we'll be disassembling and figuring out what's stuck [Applause] oh yeah so yeah this thing runs dandy but uh yeah we're definitely having problems with the drums here [Music] keep your eye on that drive coupler down there while i'm trying to move it back and forth [Music] [Music] well it's no dice on the whole moving thing it really doesn't want to okay well here this thing sits in the shop here on a pallet as it's been all summer long as you may have been able to tell the video that you just watched was recorded in the springtime the reason i never finished this was a you guys know i got a lot of projects going and this is kind of a lesser important project i just kind of started on this thing one day and got sucked in and had to keep playing around with it um i kind of have like project adhd sometimes and new stuff showing up like this gets me excited and makes me want to dive on into it but anyway i had stopped it back in the spring there because i could not get these drums to turn for the life of me i tried a few different things none of which i was proud of trying to break the drums loose and make them turn and i can't figure it out it's got to be just rusted up in there somehow or another but to fix it we're going to have to split the whole thing apart and remove the drums and probably press out the axle shafts that they spin on now i'm usually pretty good about it being able to just dive into something like this without any kind of manuals or parts breakdowns or anything and figure out how it splits apart and how it goes back together that really doesn't usually phase me but this particular machine is kind of different in the way it comes apart from what i'm used to and without a parts breakdown i wanted to make sure i had a lot of time to actually do it and really take my time and document things and make sure i would be able to get this thing back together and functioning so i don't look like a schmuck on youtube but a cool thing happened the other day and i was scrolling through facebook marketplace and i saw this exact compactor on facebook marketplace for sale but instead of saying master right here it said beaumag and i said huh and i looked all over the internet scoured and scoured and i could not find any information on this particular model compactor under the master brand but apparently somewhere along the line beaumag has bought the rights to this thing or maybe at one time beaumag produced it for master i i don't know what the situation there was but the fact is that a bowmag bw 35 35 36. fact is a bomag bw 35 is the exact same compactor with a few minor details and the uh the hand control up there and of course a paint job so i was able to find all the parts breakdowns online and so to get this thing functioning again we're going to have to completely separate every piece of this machine which without the parts diagrams would have been a little bit more daunting but since we found them now i should be able to get that done in a reasonable amount of time without too too much aggravation and guesswork anyways i know this is one of my smaller projects a little less significant than say the grader or working on the auto car but i do have fun on these little projects as well to me it's just as fun to get something small like this functioning again as it is like something big like the auto car or the cat 977 projects like that i have just as much fun firing up these little guys for whatever reason so if you guys like the video don't forget to give it a thumbs up it really helps the channel out and doesn't cost you a thing if you're not already be sure to subscribe so you can see part two whenever i get it released if you click the little bell icon you get notifications whenever i post a new video so as always guys thanks for watching and i'll catch you on the next one later [Music] you

Channel: Diesel Creek

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Keywords: hatz, lambordini, yanmar, lister, kubota, perkins, isuzu, bomag, essick, multiquip, roller, compactor, equipment, engine, repair, kroil, vintage, antique, old, bobcat, skid, steer, loader, farm, rural, woods, mechanic, hack

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Length: 39min 34sec (2374 seconds)

Published: Tue Aug 31 2021