Trash Picked 70s Snow Blower. Can It Be Saved?

you know it's dark a little night ride it's a gilson snow blower looks really clean really dark over here air compressor and a motorcycle jack i can get the air compressor motorcycle jack and and the air compressor you can get both of those in the bus but the snow blower not going to happen i don't have my truck with me unfortunately a friend of mine was right around the corner with his truck so we're gonna go throw it in his truck and i'm gonna go pick it up tomorrow but it looks pretty cool it's older machine it's 70s but definitely built like a tank let's get her let's go get her that's the next day and it's light out this is where we dragged it over to a friend of mine's place and get a little bit better look at what we got i'm guessing an eight horse kind of look for the size of the chassis yeah there's the number right there st 826 that's eight horsepower 26 inch cut tires look decent and it looks like actually somebody replaced them they're actually looking pretty decent all metal got one cutting edge these are for snow banks it cuts the side of the snow bank so it falls in front of the auger and takes that out yeah and go load that up in the truck we'll bring it back to the shop and have at here hey guys how's it going well now that we got it back at the shop and on the bench you can get a better look at what we have gills gilson's a good machine they were kind of sold under some different names too i have a uh a tractor i actually had it for 25 first tractor i ever bought it's a gilson garden tractor hydrostatic drive and it's a sold under montgomery ward i think it was which was a kind of department store kind of sears not the sears is around anymore neither they're good machines i don't know about snowblowers i've never had one of them but we're going to go find out so let's get a better idea what kind of condition stuff is in we'll just give it a quick visual on it looks like a lot of craps from dripping down out of the carb again it looks like somebody put tires on it or they were just kind of kept it very well because i don't see any cracking in them that one's flat you see the whole thing kind of sitting kitty whompus to the side all steel electric start looks like somebody put different shoes on it i don't think that would have been factory they'll they click they're off of a modern snowblower like a universal one and that cutting edge so there's a cutting edge back here supposed to touch the ground if you're on pavement i don't know if you can see that's supposed to be right down to the ground and it scoops up the snow on a driveway but if you have gravel you leave it up a little bit well that looks like it's worn all the way down but the adjustment is all the way up there's uh slots on here you loosen the nuts up in the back of that that cutting edge would slide down shift the camera's picking it up or not got a gearbox in the center that could be suspect to get burned up uh bushings on the end tend to get burned up wheel bushings on the end they have a tendency to get burned up all right see what we've got for oil in it let's go pop the cover off the belts take a peek what's going on underneath there and get rid of our sign off camera i guess they bought yeah whatever that is a tablet of some sort let's pull over a couple times see what we get for chugging i gave it a quick there and a hand compression just fire right up let's go check for earl when i pull it over i get a big whiff of bad gas so i have a feeling that that's going to be needing to be addressed and that looks pretty dark there's oil in it but it looks really nasty huh yeah that's pretty dirty but at least there's oil in it let's go pop that cover off keep getting mice nasty looks pretty good and not all rusty is fairly shiny so it doesn't look like it's been sitting for a terrible long period of time there's another thing too there's a drive disc down below for the transmission and sometimes that burns up let's actually probably see it's got gas in it you see you can't see oh you can smell it though smell it doesn't look like there's much in it really anything on the bottom maybe a quarter inch or so which is good we have to get rid of a bunch of it let's uh flip it up onto the front auger get that belly pan off we'll take a quick look at the drive disc what i'm trying to do is just trying to assess that there's no major damage on it that's going to be cross cost prohibitive you don't want to put you know 200 300 into a 200 snow blower just you know kind of upside down that way good keep that pan off [Applause] shhh my batteries are kind of dim so that's the drive disc up behind this right here kind of like that snapper mower set up we did actually looks in pretty good shape though it's got a lot of meat left on the rubber there is a joke there somewhere chains look okay i don't see much going on with them no real mouse ness at all neither this is that's a rarity for here you think the year is i wonder if that that digit the 1975 in the fourth month let's just i guess it looks like it'd be around that period of time though huh all right let's go flip her back down actually let me go pop you understand we're gonna go check a couple other things let's go and check the axle again they have a tendency to burn the bushings up here that one's got a decent amount that side's pretty tight this one and she's kind of flapping around actually looks like the bushings walking out it only took 45 years to get that way right let's go see if electric start does anything that didn't sound good did it it's like a blue breaker or arctur there it goes i think that starters no good because it just blew a fuse i think it just blew a fuse yeah well there's one issue yeah pop the gfi let's go give it another shot but i think it's got issues that's it kicked it out again yeah it does not sound very healthy either yep that starter is cooked well we'll see if it has spark anyway let's go pop the plug out of it and then we might be able to crank it also with the plug out there's gonna be no compression for it to fight she's carboned up so it looks like it's probably been running with a choke on it i probably had an issue running and they kept running it with the choke and they probably fought them so much it went out to the free park let's go see if we can get that in the spot yeah let's go check what it has for a throttle [Applause] i see choke you see throttle where's the throttle stripping gas too got to be a throttle on it somewhere right here all right just so we're not every time they always want to fight me hold on one sec not that the pull start doesn't work let's see we get yeah it literally shot fire right out of the plug i think it's up here that'd be a good thing if that's what it is why not let's go again yeah living on the edge there let's see if i get you to stand we'll gank the pull start see if you're getting the pull start of course it's on the other side you see anything i see so no spark the starter does not want to kick and i would say this motor's probably old enough that maybe has points that might be what the issue is either just didn't see the sparkler you guys saw it and you're yelling at me right now so one last thing i said the uh auger in the front the gearbox can blow out it actually feels pretty good it's how much plate you're feeling there's a worm gear that's inside here that a lot of times is brass and it will strip out especially if somebody doesn't put sheer pins this still looks like it has regular sheer pins in it so if you hit something and jam it it breaks the pin off instead of taking out this gearbox and a lot of people they lose it and they put a bolt in there and then hit something shove up you know get a frozen newspaper stuck in there and jam it up and takes out the gearbox so it seems like it's okay it's just as far as the play is concerned got one bolt left on that let's go pop that off of there and see what's arcing see if we can fix that it'd be nice if we can crank it without trying to pull start it and we got more screws we can get those three out we'll get that see if there's a failure in here hopefully there's a failure in here and not the starter i have a feeling it's probably both though let's get that off i don't see anything that's totally smoked what do you think so that's power coming in this is the push button what do you think this thing is i haven't seen that before i think it's like a rectifier or something yeah i've not seen that before pull it out here see what it says that might have what what went pop to this is ac not sure yeah it says 120 volt 60 cycles right on it i wonder if we could just hook power right through i was just that's just a capacitor i don't have the answer spray tan 10 comments already written on what that is i just i'm unaware of it and we go uh chase even go pop a little power to this directly see if we get her to spin so i started looking around that ground plug with the plug itself and the ground lead there was no post in the center of it so i have a feeling that the ground wire was touching probably the hot lead that's a guess on my part but maybe we could try plugging the extension cord back in with uh that out of the circuit and we'll see if it fires i could probably omit that switch out see if that switch burned out too but i think it that was it right there the plug was uh busted i took a look at the extension cord to see if the post was there it's not i think it was just missing the whole time i didn't see it well that'd be easy if that's all it is look at the end of that plug too it's all burnt up now maybe a little hard to see but i got that wired directly and i took an old cord yeah the switch is bypass we don't have to hit the button we just put these two together and either smoke's gonna come out or it's gonna crank or both you ready yeah it's fighting me i think it's drawing a little bit of current we're going into the inner sanctum of the horde and i may have a starter let's see what we can kind of come up with watch my step hold on there should be some of these are tractor starters but anything with an ac plug on it should be a there's one i think my box is kind of so we'll grab that one it's already got a button on it and that one right there too we'll bring both of those back with us actually three of them there's another one here too and hopefully one of those workforce if we can't fix the other one so i know i don't have any spark carbs gonna have to be dealt with uh compression feels like it's okay and the starters cook so i'm actually just gonna start taking pieces off we'll get rid of the starter that needs to be addressed anyway yeah that's gonna be a manual start uh this tin we're gonna get rid of this this is covering the carb carbs gonna have to come off everything have a spark so we got to get the flywheel pull start cover off to access what's uh electrically down below it still could be either the key or the uh shut off where the throttle when you go all the way down there's a little tab down below that grounds a wire out that kills spark too so possibly that stuff can be it but i'm suspecting that it's got points in here cruddy all right let me get them out of the way we'll get into it so [Music] so let's see if i can get you to see this without blinding you with the light there he is i can't open the choke all the way because there is a nut stuck underneath somebody was active getting it just one nut there's a joke there somewhere it's up around the choke and the choke lever's bent right there trying to clear it so winning up over the top dropped down below and now it is what it is that car's gotta come off anyway we'll get it out the other way all right pull start we still have to get that out i got two on the bottom two on top hopefully that cover clears these handlebars i've dealt with them before where you can't get it out of there tillers sometimes like that too let's go find out this is the kill wire it does not have one on the throttle it just had it on the key switch let me throw one more plug now that that's disconnected as i said sometimes if that grounds out that will also be a problem let's uh got a different plug in it to eliminate the plug give her a couple of cranks if you get spark of course it's on the wrong side for me anything i can't see awesome we are not taking the pull start off that's done fixed good possibly there was something in here i just missed it the first time you know what that means don't you you're worried about that nut still aren't you let's go through a little it's not going to make it past the throttle plate further up and i'm going to take the carb off in a minute but let's just for shits and giggles see she fires but i don't have i don't have three head bolts on this side [Laughter] what am i doing where am i going it's a metal head gasket kill it he's about calibrated right there that's running way too long i might be running on the gas that's in the carburetor let's get that nut out of there i'd expect it to run so it's running out of gas that's in the carb that's a good sign wait for it got one but there's another one behind it then you have to do a little i gotta go and number two as long as i don't push it in what has me is these are so clean there's nothing else in the throat of that carburetor just these two i bet you had a bunch of crap around it and they got it running and they couldn't suck these up all the other little nesting crap probably went through it it's my guess because there's just nothing that you can see right very well there's nothing in there that shows any kind of debris you know there's something on the bottom no onward what do you want to do next let's look at its fuel see if you have to clean that out of the tank now that they're out see if it'll fire up again like that [Applause] [Applause] so yeah it uh i don't so you come up up idle it dies yeah probably a little choke you gotta open it up though still yeah it's got nothing on the main only idle circuit that's the fuel shut off i turned it i think it's gonna work let's go see what it keeps peeing or not i think it's much in that tank anyway but all right stop you're gonna keep going i think we're okay i already took the bottom screw out that's the one that was holding the tin for the intake these don't have a air filter snow blowers generally do not because the water sometimes the conditions are right the weather kind of comes around and clogs them up and you got to think like a snow blower what is it it's used in it's a pretty clean air environment the only time it's ever out is when everything's covered in snow so there's not much dust that gets kicked up that would uh damage it we want that spider i think he uh passed away a day or two ago and let's get the throttle off all right let's go open her up she looks like you think we're gonna get for gas yeah yellow but he didn't he did run on that definitely morning peace so you ready yeah not bad at all i dare say that we probably could have just ran this one clean with fuel but then if we didn't take it apart it would have screwed up on us see if the floats suck we'll throw that in the uh i'm gonna throw it in the ultrasonic cleaner anyway and uh make sure she floats kind of hole in it that's very clean good we'll soak that and we'll work on something else while that's doing its thing yeah let's release the goo let's see how much if there's any color nice colorful metal rainbows it's dirty but it doesn't look like it's got a bunch of metal dust in it got to kind of wait a little bit for it though you put it in the pan and give it a little spin and give you a better idea it looks pretty good a little on a thick side huh so there's some vintage oil right there that's probably snowblower 75 we'll call that 75. plug that back up go see with the old no shiny bits good and go fill that back up and we'll jump onto something else actually while that's out is it a good time to go maybe tilt it and turn it and bend it yeah let me do that remind me to put oil on now i'm going to get 10 000 people telling me to pull it on yeah let's go flip it up uh let's go screw with that front cutting edge and that stuff and start looking into how the the underneath of it looks how many pounds do you think i am going to say zero zero it's kind of holding it up in the air but like between five and ten that's too much kind of flipped up looking at that cutting edge now i bet to think that either they turned the same direction every time and it wore uneven or one of the tire pressures was off you can see the cutting edge got about three quarters of an inch left on that side so i'm going to loosen these up i want to spin it around maybe we'll take it off and put this out here i'm not sure that actually nah it's too far off i'm gonna just try to crack them loose moving forward the best they can we'll work with what we got i broke one that one put a different bolt in it let's you can get that to slide down [Music] i know it needs a new one but i don't have one at the moment what i'm trying to do is save the the auger part of it because the more this runs down the closer these get to rubbing on the ground i've seen it to the point where that's happened actually they've you know kind of bumped the ground a little bit too so that's why i'm running down what's there the best i can and i think i'm going to set it up i'm going to set it up this doesn't touch we'll leave like a quarter inch gap underneath it so that it rides mostly on the shoes instead of the cutting edge let's go take a peek i do believe that drive disc is looking a little on the funky side there's a chew mark going around it i mean still got rubber good rubber on it all the way around and i can see from this side when i look down from the top though you can see that definitely got tore up there it's like something got caught in it went around so maybe goes on a list maybe it doesn't it can run like that for a long time i'm gonna throw a little bit of lube on the chains that one's a little on the dry side that one's fine and right back here this slides back and forth this is your gear selector so the engine spins when you engage the belt for the drive it spins this disc this disc in turn goes to this axle and this drive disc slides either towards the center or further out more towards the center it is the speed is slower transferring and the more towards the outside the faster it's going you want reverse it's kind of in reverse now it's a little on the other side of the disc and it's it's spinning the opposite direction and spins it just backwards goes through these these two sets of change which is just a gear reduction to the axle all right let me get that dipped [Music] dropped it down low again i'm going to just run it through the paces as far as the gears and the the engage i don't know what's going on with this it's got some kind of apparatus i do not understand its purpose where is that going i wonder if it was for tension i wanted to shoot rattled and it would turn on him so he just put some tension on it or wrapped it around the knob to hold it in one spot that's common i've seen that happen we'll get rid of it for now let's drive the pulley on the bottoms locking in let me show you i'm going to shut you i'm going to set you in a stand and uh run it through the gears back and forth there's a bunch of stuff in your way but you should be able to see that plate slide over this direction back and forth i want to spread that grease out a little right now it's in neutral reverse one reverse two mess up the fifth that's gear two three four five neutral reverse one reverse two that's all the speeds that's back out neutral so that was the gas that was in the carb let's go what drain the rest of it i'll get rid of this and we'll drain what's in the tank and put fresh stuff in see what color it looks like yeah not much better i always say it's within 10 years old though you can see the air gap underneath there if you go over this side it's much greater so i'm going to drop this one down so that equals roughly the height of that that's about a quarter inch we're going to go with that see how it does and it'll leave a little bit behind but it depends on your surface what you're trying to do if you got a real fine pavement you want to get it right down to nothing but if you're doing gravel you got to k you got to leave about an inch underneath them you know depending on how well packed your gravel is so we go tweak the shoe a little bit give her a little resting stance [Music] it's even got grease fittings in the chronograph and get on them come on that's nice that's something meant to last got a little too happy there i started looting it loosening the drain plug for the gearbox in the front i've seen all kinds of setups with fluids most of the new stuff is just grease some of the old ones have like you fill it with a gear oil i suspect that's what this one is looking to see if we can get a little urine sample or something it's going down pretty low and not hitting nothing is there anything in there well it's a good thing we check because uh not much a lot of times it just oozes out of the size of it i'm gonna go let's see what i got to go put in there i need kind of like a heavy a heavy grease more than a gear oil but either one depending what i got i took the front lower plug that's the fill plug this is probably where you let it run out you fill it up to that level when it run out that actually looks pretty good i feel more confident now nice put all that back together and what do you want to move on to next [Music] so i figure i always run the drain plug with that sharp edge sticking out the top it's drilled through for a vent the top's kind of crude though so when it warms up it doesn't push the fluid out get some place for the air to expand and contract out of the gearbox and let's go check on soup where our flood's still floating that's a good sign [Music] sometimes these brass ones crack especially water got in the um water got in the float pole and it freezes and cracks we'll get all that out of there give her a bath with water blow her out put it back together and slap her back together i blew everything out with compressed air all the passages they already screwed up you're like what what'd you do did you not do i heard one of you yelling uh-huh and work without that which way are we what are you doing one more time it is broken but i do not have another one so we're gonna do with what we have now we put i'm gonna it through that that is kitty wompus the clip got kitty wonkas do over the clip even when i took it off it's like extraordinary extraordinarily on the long side but it is what was in there so i'm gonna leave alone for now but it got turned sideways come on come on hopefully that does not continue to be an issue in the future all right where's the pin there it is it looks pretty good almost like straight across there's a uh a drill bit you sit in there and use it for a shim and it's blowing it make sure the passage closes and opens it does and now we can go put part a with part b without losing yeah it says definitely one simple curve not much to it and the fuel shut off works which is nice because these have a tendency to drip over time you can see even by the staining that was underneath it it's probably an indication a bowl gasket would have been nice someday maybe if you perform well with a fruitful life you got a mile ago [Music] when i'm done i'm going to hit that with a little blast of air just because any little brass or anything you scrape off or the walls you scrape off a little bit i just want to get any crappy dust that got up inside there out of there and the fuel comes in around through that jet there's a passage right there and this pinches off against that jet how much can pass through there by adjusting it up and down that's your mixture one of them leave that roughly where it was and we have that one which is the same thing only different only smaller that's it throw where that choke was just close that up where those nuts were stuck seems okay i'm gonna leave it alone i thought i kind of bent that top plate just a hair i might might just be that way to leave it so there's a little bit airspace i think before we uh reassemble and get that carb on there all the pieces let's go take some time just go clean a bunch of this crap up while there's some access to it and all the covers aren't wrong original paint you know gotta maintain the original paint not sure what you can see can you see this camera here really and it's got a lever right here so everything is done by the one usually on top you have one lever for the drive and one lever for the auger and you can latch one with the other you see this one is tensioning the belt for the auger and but it's also the driver there's a lever here on the side you hit that it'll just run the wheels not the auger and i guess you gotta kind of put it in neutral i don't know if i'm all that crazy about that because you kind of like to bump the uh like when you're in a thick snow bank at the end of the driveway and you're you're running the machines to the snow bank you kind of just like on and off that the wheel drive and as the engine kind of bogs down a little bit you let it process a bunch of snow you take another bite at it i'm not sure how this is going to work having everything on one lever unless possibly it's like let's go see where it comes in happening here no it's right away it doesn't say possibly if you can just kind of engage and disengage or maybe the drive is like that maybe the drive is just the auger's spinning and you can i'm gonna find out when we get it running [Music] that was uh very clear and concise huh all right back to putting that card on looks good huh it's cleaned up let's go wiggle that back on we need throttle we have throttle get it under there there you go [Applause] so you're erasing what you wrote it's all right someone's not happy about move-in day yeah that might be an issue make sure the bench is clear before you let it down so looking down at the shifter you see all the slots have a deep cut in it except for neutral neutral sits up high so that's what it does it holds the drive disc off so no matter what you do with the lever you can run this if you just want to run and clean up the impeller by itself the auger by itself i think it's going to take a little bit of uh getting used to it would be bad for long you know long strips that you're doing but when you try doing little little kind of areas it might be annoying you got the headlight you just have the two wires tied together and you can plug them in i don't see an on off switch on it anywhere so i have a feeling he was just taking it and pull out these gas okay take them and just kind of plug them together when you needed it all right that's good don't get too overconfident that we're gonna use all that right we don't have snow yet neither and try and fire it up and have to adjust the two screws so at a high speed i'm going to be adjusting this one and when i go back down to an idle i'm going to be adjusting this one and just kind of listening to it to get the best run without it the smoothest run in before it cuts out is pretty much the window you want to be in hey you kind of back up a little bit from that make it a little bit richer in his lean less fuel out is rich more fuel and then the choker let's warm up for a second hopefully it runs all good i haven't figured out why i did not have spark but we're gonna go use this for a little bit for the to ground it out and then possibly be a switch was no good up here where the key goes in that might have been an issue fire it up that's full throttle no not tearing the gas on so [Applause] look all the way down this shut off the fuel actually no i hit the wire that should be dialed in it sounded like i got it pretty good we have to tweak a little bit more than that i'm gonna go put the rest of the covers on and i can see the meter we need to go on resistance we are now all right open close so right now that switch has no key in it it should be closed or grounded across it and it is let's go put the key in it wherever the key went i literally just saw it isn't that entertaining i have a feeling the key wasn't all the way in because i don't remember it being that hard to uh so it was in just that which was open now it's not uh closing open there guys i think it was in that far and it just wasn't making a safe that's why i had no spark that's easy i can go with that let's go run through its functions let's plug that light in into see if it works so [Music] [Music] [Music] looks good everything's nice and straight [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] i killed it that was fifth gear just want to put drag on to make sure it had a nice enough drive on the drive disc which it does everything checks out good light's not working i don't know if it's not putting power out or doesn't have a good bulb in it there's only the plastic cover to go on in the little pan underneath pop the headlight out of there we'll put 12 bolts to it real quick see we get away yeah that bulb's burned out not sure if i got another one let's go check well i couldn't find one of those i did find a fog light and if that works i probably throw that in there may not match the aesthetics for the age of it but yeah all right getting a fog light and i only had one of them so i don't even feel guilty about breaking up a set well we got the light on there fired it up that seems to work just fine aesthetically it's a little off i kind of like the fact this machine is i think it's almost all original except for maybe the the skis or the shoes on the side the headlight's probably the original one or like a an add-on back when the thing was new yeah you possibly get another bulb for that if i do i may put that back on there just for that purpose starter unfortunately the start amounts that i grabbed of the other starters do not match the setup that is on here so this video is long enough i was gonna go tear into it see if we could possibly fix the starter that is on it but i think we've uh been a fairly long video gluing this one back together i think it's gonna be a good machine i don't have snow yet to go try it out but everything seems like it's functioning quite well it's a nice good quality machine not the pieces of plastic you buy now everything on this is metal except for the cover for the belts it could use some belts yeah at some point and probably that cutting edge but it'll last a good couple of years just as it is ready to go blow snow and we're gonna find that out hopefully as far off as possible it's we're going it's the end of november right now getting into december you know we'll start getting some snow and i'll be able to run this one and probably do the sidewalks around here with it guys i want to thank y'all for hanging out with me i think this one died for a couple of nuts stuck in the intake that's probably why they threw it out by running it wasn't getting full power and they just decided to probably get a new one and thought this motor or whatever was tired on this one but meanwhile a couple of those and i'll get you in trouble more ways than one huh all right guys without a sign off and thank you all for hanging out with me and uh fixing free junk from the side of the road till the next time i'll see you then bye

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Published: Sun Dec 06 2020