Former CIA Agent Breaks Down Jeffrey Epstein Case

the Joe Rogan experience well how about the other so you gotta go to okay how about the other prints the one that's Epstein's friend toe Oh Andrew yeah yeah that was that was what first of all how odd is that guy when they're interviewing him and talking to him yeah it's like what the Queen kicked in to the curb very quickly yeah well it's very strange yeah dad what is your take on this whole Epstein thing first of all can we just agree that so yeah you sure she's 18 you're telling me that yeah does not look 18 she looks 16 are you sure you sure what up what up [ __ ] show that it yeah what a [ __ ] show so let me let me ask you this right off the bat well I don't know ask you he didn't kill himself right I don't believe so thank you no no you know me I'm not I'm not conspiracy guy right I mean I don't disappear down the rabbit holes very often but no I don't think it's a way in hell he killed himself Michael Shermer who's the the head of skeptics magazine who doesn't believe anything found out that the tapes were missing and then the [ __ ] the cameras didn't work and then the tapes were deleted from the first accidentally deleted from the first time you attempted suicide and schirmer's like oh is it conspiracy like it was enough evidence that were the biggest get a professional skeptic professionals he doesn't believe anything just note this note there's just no I did no way I could be convinced that he offed himself no words ow he knew too much and you know it's it's it's astounding but but yeah what would what is [ __ ] show but hey you know nobody's gonna get to the bottom of anything but that's a crazy one like they got him in the jail the guards are somehow or another getting in trouble so who knows what the guards are gonna say they might get suicided my favorite part was the guy they chose for his cellmate do you see the [ __ ] gorilla they chose for sale man yeah reminded me of that Richard Pryor that old Richard Pryor movie remember that this [ __ ] guy yeah this giant Goomba this huge Italian ex-cop who is a murderer and a drug runner I mean this guy is built like a brick [ __ ] and this is epstein cellmate yes like what like you can't even make this stuff up as he never touched him the of course why would I touch him Nicholas started Leone yeah what is he would it's a timeline of events and quadruple homicides that what it says yeah so this [ __ ] guy this giant likes dogs oh yeah he loves dogs they keep him from all the people that he killed they bark when they're coming around you can grab your gun it's a good move it's it's just crazy there's so many pieces to the puzzle that are so ridiculously obvious and then when you find out that Clinton flew with them at least 26 times yeah 26 times yeah I had no idea no I it's it's it's just one of those things and again I don't I'm not a buyer on these sort of things but you you look at it you look at the facts around you think they just know there's no way in hell yeah what and I must know you what do you would thought that Epstein would have said to myself I said to himself I'm gonna get killed here if I'm not careful well he probably didn't think it was everything to get to the point where they were actually jailing them you know when they asked God because remember you had that deal where he was on work release so he could just do whatever you want [ __ ] off for 16 hours a day then he had a check into the jail at night yeah and who even knows what that means he might have checked in and just went home again it seems like they they had set something up for him to make it very easy for him to be incarcerated for what should be a pretty heinous crime I mean he would think sex with underage girls and and sex trafficking yeah me not just him doing yeah the extent to which and so yeah then but then you could look at I forget what her name is they sort of the assistant Giselle yes name because just Lane it's as an estimate but I've heard it pronounced with the S or without so ghilane or just lame okay G rocker yeah so G rockers out there hidin in the bushes in Columbia or something right where is she yeah that's what I was gonna say I mean she must be a yeah you would assume they proposed her at this point or she must have something she must have some [ __ ] kill switch where if the [ __ ] goes down all the Clinton tapes come piling out onto the [ __ ] floor somebody brought it around a Glenn Greenwald yeah you know what maybe I should convince oh there she is that's when she was it in and out reading a book on X CIA agents who have been murdered that's literally what she was right reading a book on right wasn't it yeah it was about CIA operatives and the murder so the idea was that what they said what people believed and there's many different versions of what people believe but look at me picture she posed for it so strange but when many people believed was that what he was doing was compromising a lot of these wealthy powerful people by getting videotapes of them hooking up with young girls including Prince Andrew right yeah yeah yeah and for whatever reason you know have you heard of anything like this before is this something that's been done in the past not that I've heard of I mean I mean I'm sure it's big you know anytime you see some freak show it's never the first time it's happened right so you have to assume it's happened but to the degree that it's got this level of celebrities and big-time names I mean it works so well and I'm gonna tell you something after the show's over something after shows him but just tell me it's just you want me talking if you whisper in my ears and with Koreans really do that sorry but the North Koreans used to that was there that was there phone security is they would get on the phone and they when they had something really classified to talk about they would whisper that's alaric you'll never figure that out that's that's how they did it yeah yeah well part of it was years ago III think they just never believed any any Westerner could understand Korean and I think that was kind of part of it was that they we were all too stupid or we were just so complicated that they we'd never be able to figure out what they were saying in their own language it's the price you pay for being so insulated yeah you never you don't really understand what the what's really going on in the outside world because they don't really have the Internet when was the last time we talked about North Korea Wow just push that front port but but to get to get back we can you talk about North Korea but to get back to this epstein thing is that a common strategy that intelligence agencies would use where they would try to compromise people in order to get like what would be the benefit if you had like if the Mossad was doing that and they were doing that and using it does that's the the theory right right yeah it's a good it's a good point I'd say from an Intel services perspective I mean one thing I will say it's the US and people's men gotta believe this because I'm saying and they'll say all right it's [ __ ] he just deal but the u.s. the agency doesn't do that we don't use honey traps we don't do that sort of thing because that's sort of leverage always it's always gonna head south on you and so we don't you know try to coerce somebody in that sort of a relationship and then we can take advantage of and yet other services do the Russians being one of them they do that all the time Israelis yeah they've had some very successful efforts to do that and and if you can if you get somebody in that position it doesn't matter how they're compromising themselves whether you're putting themselves in with like an Epstein situation where suddenly you've got them you know got video of them with a with an underaged person or whether they've provided a document that they shouldn't provide it's all this the concept is always the same right it doesn't matter what that what that action is you're you're getting them on the hook or you're getting something that's leverageable over them and if if they don't just go forward immediately say and turn around to their boss and say I'm guilty did this I'm sorry then they're compromised and then you've got them as an Intel service you've got them you can start reeling the hook in because now you know you've know that not only did they do something to provided you with a document even if it was an unclassified if I go to somebody if I'm developing a relationship with somebody some target overseas or whatever you're not thinking all right I'm trying now I'm exploring this person's got access they're in an interesting position interesting job and they've got access to information that we want to know that's priority target and then I want to say okay now I want to develop the relationship a little bit maybe I bump into the person at a few parties maybe we're in the same parent-teacher organization whatever the [ __ ] is right kid play on the same soccer team so then I go and I think okay what do I want to do I want to test the waters a little bit I'm not gonna say hey listen you know I understand you work at the foreign ministry here and you know whatever country you happen to be in how about you give me some documents but instead you know maybe it's something different maybe they worked the foreign ministry or maybe they work at a aerospace business you know that's a target and you say but you've developed a bit of a relationship and then you say yeah my kids doing this school project and you know it's all about whatever hypersonic flight you know and and you know you know that they work at some you know aerospace companies say you know do you have anything just on hypersonics you know and and you're not looking for anything classified you're just looking for a research paper or study or something you know and if they come back and say yeah you know what here this is an interesting you know study you know and they they now that act alone they're not giving you something classified but that act alone means something big right it means they were task able in a sense right they responded to your request for information they're suckers not suckers necessarily it could be an enormous ly smart person but you know and and smart people get yeah they get you think it's suckered into it I guess you could put it that way but yeah so anyway then you you go from there then you've ratcheted up slowly you know bit by bit if you've got the timeframe to do it maybe sometimes you know you got a shortened time frame because there's a requirement to get something and you gotta you got to accelerate the whole process anyway so but point being is its stall leverageable and Epstein was obviously getting leverage on all these different people for whatever his purpose was what do you think that's what the question is like what could he possibly a lot of more scientists he went with a lot of like celebrities there was a state well he needed money right well what was who knows maybe he got off on sort of being the the kingpin and this whole thing and and I it's a good question how do you fund it right so I mean there had to be something valuable that they were getting from it I'm guessing I don't know it hasn't yeah yeah like I've tried to figure out the angle but I mean I get the idea of you would have leverage over these people you have them in compromising situations and then they would do things for you but what would they do for you yeah like what yeah what is he getting Bill Clinton it's a good question and providing him with access maybe he he like being close to you know the seat of power or maybe you know he like being close to what he thought was like a royal family member you know maybe the mate who knows because he had sounds like he had a little money he needed right so maybe it was it was that's sort of access that that blue is skirt up I don't know but it is yeah it is interesting but I don't think I mean look it's just like been kicked to the curb obviously the doing the trolley has to some of the great I don't think I don't know what where they say it's gonna happen yeah nothing's gonna have already swept it under the rug and there's already new stories out that got our attention we forget about things so quickly today the news cycle is so fast when something happens even something as ridiculous as the epstein case where it's so obvious that he was murdered and then Michael Baden goes on 60 minutes and says this is consistent with someone who is strangled I've never in all my years of seeing people Hank I've never seen him with these kind of fractures this is fractures are indicative of strangulation and as one serious-minded do too right yeah tremendous amount of experience and and you know he doesn't he doesn't blow smoke up anybody's ass right he's very measured and and you know now obviously he was there on behalf of Epstein's brother yes but you know I yeah anyway it just it is it's one of those things where you think maybe I'm gonna put that down as something we should explore I want to go visit that cop in jail see what he's probably got a fur-lined cell phonee yeah science 72 inch TV wire marks at his hands I mean if you're gonna get someone to strangle your cellmate that's the guy to I mean he's [ __ ] do it in three seconds he's so big yeah you don't want somebody who's got to take their time because heaven spacey dude strangling I can take forever hold still want some big gorilla dude yeah well I tell you what if if this new series I'm doing gets picked up for a second season well I'm gonna recommend to the producers they they put the Epstein case on there no it's not quite in line with what we [Applause]

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Published: Sat Jan 18 2020