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water and eat mints pies which don't contain me strange place I know I should I grew up here I should know so um what else was I going to say yeah we do have a few things to look at is everything working okay by the way cuz the the whenever I put on the stream for some reason the streaming software I'm using says oh no your stream's going terribly like that it's dropping frames disaster panic I don't know why but it does it every single time man every single time I know if whether it's a lying to me or not but good all right I appreciate that Apothecary that is good to let me bop up your Bop this up a little bit that's great that's good then don't see any stars yeah I don't know why I I just think it's the the thing I use you from south UK nope the other way I'm all the way North I often think I don't have a huge accent but most people don't think they have an accent but uh I I guess you would know from from the north I don't have the most northern accent get some proper get some proper strong accents this way anyways today we have first of all there was a little bit of news that went out um that I just want to cover it's like a real quick thing but uh at the start of the stream I like to I like to do this stuff you know just to uh sort of get it rounded up see what people think about it cuz as we know season of Discovery is about changing stuff so blizzard are doing class balancing uh let's put this on my screen here is that okay for you oh yeah it's more than okay so we did have one or two changes um one of these in particular won't be live yet I think when North America comes back up you'll get it back North UK awesome accent love it uh and I was uh I've lived a bunch of places in the north but it's very different you go from Newcastle to Liverpool and you'd swear it's two different languages anyways uh so we've got a bunch of updates for classes so I'm follow we're making the tuning adjustments with the schedule maintenance so when na comes back up you should be good right you're waiting yeah friends only say of an accent when I'm angry that's when it comes out isn't it that's when the emotion shows uh so first up living flame now benefits from and consumes Arcane blast that's actually pretty big um I I kind of I already thought it did that to be honest I haven't played a mage though to be fair but the fact that that will do that cuz as I've kind of gone about in the previous video which was a little bit more controversial than what I usually do according to the light counter um I do think casters are generally over relying on their runes compared to melee for through put so anything that directly Buffs a rune which this is doing will noticeably buff your damage it snapshots I mean it will that's that's that's what it says that what it says and uh if we go to let me just find the page here for you frost m is get nothing true if we go here um where's arcade so arcane's down here Fire's down here so you could see from a DPS point of view it needed a buff but this is also a this has gone a buff heala Mage too right so you're getting the two and one hey hey Ben thank you yeah I'm I'm looking out for the casters okay I mean I I I get some some people saw the video and they're like oh man this guy's just winging because he's not top DPS or anything but it's more than that I just I don't want season of Discovery to end up where we just end up with a same meta from original vanilla do you know what I mean uh even if it's change kind of for the sake of change if we could have a bit more you know variety up here that I think that would be a good thing Warlock the Warlock have been closing the Gap by the way on Paladin yeah so I mean I hey I play a warlock I don't really have the rights to complain 4 team n i don't support anyone I've never really got into football I'm honest odd for a northerner but is what it is God forbid intellect gave one spell power imagine if it did right so when I was doing that video I was I was looking over the stats just to reconfirm how everything works it's like okay you know a bunch of Mele classes get one attack power from agility then they get crit and then they get it from strength it's a Caster it's like you get intellect which gives you a pathetic amount of crit like it's completely nominal destroy on the turtle yeah um so casters are especially good on the turtle uh that's that's kind of our that's the moment when we have fun right yeah yeah the turtle is the cter boss uh and that's just cuz it has really high armor and by the way one of the suggestions I've heard to kind of tone melee down a bit would be up the armor on bosses and stuff but that I mean that kind of does solve direct damage but you have stuff like Rogues who are kind of a dark class they have a strong bleed and they have poisons that just Nerfs people who hit stuff directly like uh Warriors and Hunters don't rely on weapons is the trade-off I mean damn I wish I did rely on weapons looking at this uh relying on weapons looks pretty good right about now huh I mean the staff we get the the uh one from kis the r of the ancient site Walker that's okay it's not quite preis I was wrong in the video about that but it's close to preis like it's insane I'm just going to say it's kind of controversial but the changes they didn't C where intellect gave spell power now I look at it I'm like M that that kind of makes sense why why don't Caster scale with more stuff do you know what I mean but they're not going to change that like that let's be real you know they're not going to change that boomkins are climbing you want to see something funny check this out check this out um give me a minute so is it stats no rankings rankings healing read anyone that plays a Resto Druids already already knows what I'm doing right now check out Druid healing let's go to the top top five Druids okay top five Druids healing wise in BFD Okay who wants to guess how much healing is coming from a rune anyone would anyone like to casually have a guess how much of this Resto dr's healing is coming from AO the throw me some numbers what do you think 99 100 about 120 damn oh W growth I mean 80% 50% well would you be surprised if I said the correct answer was 96.3 7% Resto Dr is literally wild growth the class that's it yeah uh this Rune is pretty good it's pretty good right and this isn't a oneoff okay next D next D wild growth 95% next R Wild growth 85% holy crap he's actually using his vanilla ability someone stop this man next Dr uh 99% m m casted like one Healing Touch by mistake the entire raid oh my God right next D 92% yeah so this is this is kind of what I was getting at in the video of runes as well runes are so class defining they they really make you what you are uh in this season so far like priests we all know priests are incredible healers right like we open up a few priests here let's see what we can get this guy circle of healing Rune prayer of mending Rune uh flash Shield notar run R heal notar Rune Penance Rune next one circle of healing Rune prayer of mending Rune next uh again the thing is you can you can solo heal with priest and circle of healing will pump a lot more if you're running two healers I think penants goes up in [Music] value it's what makes Mage healer salty penants can basically heal a tank by itself yeah I've seen it Penance is ridiculous and you have to worry about um Mage healers have to worry about spell resist too that like when discipline was made into a thing where it healed through um what you call it atonement atonement never had to worry about this stuff it was just baked into your talents and it's not now scroll down to you find Holy Paladin here's the thing right um paladins interestingly they don't have a rune which directly affects the healing okay so it's not like you have light of dawn or Divine Light or holy Radiance right you don't have any of these things and so what are paladins healing through they're just having to press flash of light and then beacon beacon does the rest so the Rune is still their best ability but unlike other healers they're having to rely more on um the vanilla ability which is why they aren't as good uh same deal with Shaman by the way Healing Rain is good but Healing Rain Is a bit more um it's a bit harder to get value out of I guess that's what I want to say uh let's go [Music] to check a few shamans here so Healing Rain yeah there we go spot on with 95% thereabouts a runes too strong um I think runes are kind of okay what runes have done have highlighted the fact that your vanilla abilities suck uh is an unfortunate reality of the situation your vanilla abilities are just really really bad um and runes aren't bad I think there could be a bit of a better balance between the two but equally I think and what I hope blizzard do is use runes as an opportunity to put more power into vanilla abilities so you know the tank runes uh were like if you're a warlock you you gain extra armor you take less you have a lesser chance to be crit you get a charge you get an AOE Tor like tank runes do about half a dozen things they're crazy but these standard runes that just affect one thing just affect that Rune um imagine for warlocks right for example let me log in and show you impressed by the amount they've done so far yeah I mean I I do think they're doing a good job right like I know it sounds like I'm bitching about everything trying to find problems but I I I do just want the season to be good and I think there is a bit of a a bit of a mismatch going on here at the moment uh so let me let's say for example through a rune right uh so I have this one here Lake of Fire when I do a rain of fire increases all fire damage basically me and my demon do by 40% what if because this Rune is directly tied to rain of fire this Rune also said and reduces the cost of rain of Fire by 50% um and that is a rune which is affecting that ability but it's also buffing the power level of the vanilla spell as well so it's just a less garbage essentially and Rain of fire is okay but at the moment Lake of Fire is you cast you're just going to cast a rank one like the spell effect didn't show up I don't quick I'm D at the moment Lake of Fire when you're playing this Rune you put it on you do this you instantly cancel it and then you go to Casting incinerate and stuff and it's just it's kind of like minus 280 Mana for the effect it gives you or Everlasting Affliction right this this makes it so all these abilities here so drain life drain Soul they refresh your corruption back to its maximum duration but what if this also said and makes corruption crit or and gives corruption spell damage equal to 20% of your intellect you know something like that which it could do you know it very well could do and then it's it's not only giving you this Rune but it's buffing a vanilla ability and I think buffing the vanilla abilities is the thing that they need to be doing level a heel Paladin you'll be fine in later phases right this is just 25 um it it's just more an observation of how impactful runes are to to everyone's Class you know [Music] yeah that's that's just the conclusion I've come to so far thoughts on what classes will do best or better at level 40 it's really hard to say I thought Warriors would suck this phase and uh well I was [Music] um yeah I was a little bit wrong on that one you could say I thought Frost Mage would be good I was a little bit wrong on that one you could say it's really hard to say what's going to be good at 40 I'm going to be honest maybe I'll have hunters taming gorillas and the gorillas will be able to AOE down three Warriors Warriors never suck yeah that's the lesson I've learned now huh hello Travis priest need a Mana back spell I mean I think priest are doing okay Elemental oh I do like Elemental 40 yeah yeah you're right on that yeah don't worry about it I mean Ellie I can tell you exactly why you suck right now like I haven't played it and I I can guarantee you this is why um so what's the 9 percentile so it's pretty low it's cuz um your main filler spell this this again goes to prove my point about runes uh so that's a lightning breath not lightning bolt [Music] breath breath breath where's bolt there's [Music] bolt level 20 let me just go back on that real quick level 20 rank four uh so the rank you have at the moment aside from the talents right it's a a 3 second cast for 88 to 100 damage that is terrible oh my God the melee classes are doing melee swings for double that by the way 3 seconds for that garbage imagine imagine but if you rank it up one more it it's it's still kind of bad to be honest like the still isn't good by the way is this right huh yeah I guess this is right yeah lightning B suck but lava burst doesn't does it cuz a lava burst is a rune and rune runes are [Music] good much is a laa best doing classes Elemental lava burst average cast 445 and that's a crit huh that's not too high actually like if I have Lake of Fire up and incinerate my chaos bolt is doing over 700 crits but this is guaranteed crit you don't need the set up right you just have flame shock and then blah blah blah blah it just [Music] works look your dagger yeah sure it's from the last boss in BFD 12 damage and healing it's pretty good dagger actually uh so that's 12 and I've got the off hand from the quest which is four Alo overload works on it yeah that's true actually yeah yeah look at priest a priest still the worst in the game um what do I want stats nope frost mes have that position but Maes Maes you can play fire you can play Arcane they're not great but they are better cross mes though wof I sure gear score I can't I I literally can't believe people are using gear score they're using gear score in season of Discovery like there's no way there is no vanilla has never worked with gear score ever ever ever there are so many items which are good that are from lower level content it makes sense in Wrath kind of when you can like teer gear between Alo and so on and vanilla like just don't use it just straight up don't use it just say I'm in preus you'll get invited like what the hell well season of Discovery have Arena I highly doubt it I'm afraid if you're looking for arena I don't think you'll get [Music] it it's horrible for KN what GE what people's gear is yeah it is like at the moment on my warlock I'm wearing this I don't I'm not buying a neck off the auction house of 15 gold I can tell you that right now I'll put some six agility neck on I'm not doing it for gear score it has two stamina [Music] okay it shows the uh stats oh the stats adding is called uh extended character stats and that just uh yeah it it it gives you the information you wish the UI did yeah Sentinels Abyss I mean yeah I'm doing the rep I should do it to revered I they fixed it right so it's not as buggy anymore I'm only honored I need to do like probably about six wins or something six or eight [Music] wins oh melee Hunter's good that's interesting apparently according to the stats they are good I don't know how met Warcraft logs is assigning Hunter as being a melee I guess they do the majority of the damage through melee that sounds like the kind of well du answer um but there's also not many passes comparative to other specs so H oh apparently Na's back up if you guys want to try and log in yeah there's there's not too many so each each one the each pass basically is one boss kill using that SP um so yeah there's Marksmanship Hunter pretty popular Mele Hunter yeah not so popular but yeah according to this they're good I mean if you're playing a melee Hunter you get to you get to benefit from um wind furry as I like to call it it's a melee Weaver flanking that's what I was thinking yeah it's not like a pure melee Hunter is it the less popular specs have a better chance to pass they do they always do yeah you're right the less popular a spec is the more chance a good player has to pass high it's like if you went and played an arms Warrior now ra of the Lich King even without Shadow M if you do pretty good you'll you'll see yourself high up there you know compared to if if you're playing fury it's going to be much more difficult um there was another thing I want to say actually so I got so unbelievably sidetracked from this holy crap um but let's let's finish off this and then I want to try playing the uh the Paladin a little bit before we just go on a yaap in stream talking okay real quick so Avengers shield is now considered SN it was in TBC this wasn't a snare right it's like improved blizzard it it it's like undispellable for some unknown reason and the manag granted by steal of the marom to party and raid members has been increased was 20 uh is 20% was 10 blizzard no one is taking this while rat has Divine storm it's just not happening Divine storm is too good even if you're playing prot Divine storm is too good uh yeah maybe they need to move this to a different slot like I I've seen Palin stuff a bit and divine storm is just it's a lot of threats and it's a lot of damage right um I I don't know maybe just rework it to where it's something utility wise that a a tank or a Healer might want to take right you're trying to use it on your holy P yeah that's what I'm thinking right more of a utility Vibe than the damage one guessing they have Rune slots for boots and belts in Phase 2 yeah I'd expect belt we we kind of already saw that at BlizzCon but boots would be nice too yeah and uh how long is f going to last if I had to guess we are so this Thursday the 21st will be 3 weeks it released on the 30th 1 2 3 at least another four weeks so 1 2 3 4 so Phase 2 will come out on either the 18th or 25th of January in my opinion to answer that holy p and have it work like a beacon maybe I know I think it's a cool ability like apparently people were telling it's good when you're leveling right um but yeah we've also got Rogue so blade dance has been updated so it gives 10% Parry all ranks and combo Point Spenders just increase its duration I mean you're never getting a full duration blade uh blade dance are you let's be real unless you're main tanking a boss that's purely single Target you're just not going to get it all the way up I think it's what's going to happen there you can twist it oh if you can twist it that changes things I just how are paladins doing I mean they're all right like let me look where the damage is coming from Oh wrong one so all classes Palin DPS right right boys what are what are you doing damage with Divine St okay so he's not using it next not using it next not using it it doesn't seem good if I'm going to be honest it doesn't seem good you can't no I I I don't know personally I haven't tried oh he has the sword though I saw the first sword drop last night went to a warrior haven't seen the staff yet ah pain he's got the sword I guess you have to have the sword to pass right oh he's got summon this fell Hunter thing that's from some brob and duskwood in the uh Crips that is so Min maxy I love [Music] it and uh yeah that it's basically all three are the same none of them are using [Music] it you've had The Sword and the staff o you did you win either could you win either are you in that [Music] position I mean people are saying you can seal twists seal a marom but it it looks like people who are doing well are not doing that no ah unfortunate next time not you can pass in yeah it's not so much passing it's just observing what people are doing and what's working I know I think passing is kind of me me at level 25 I'm not going to lie but I just use it for the data right to see what people are [Music] doing because for data it is useful it's very useful [Music] rest in classic 2019 till they fix seal of command twisting and seal of blood isn't used yeah I played a brat all the way through TBC and I I really like seal twisting I do I think it's so much fun to get that auto attack and you have both seals proc and you get wind Fury and you hit like six times in one Global I love it it's [Music] great what should an elemental shaman do to DPS H I'm sorry yeah there's there's not much you can do it's out of your hands I'm afraid it was always going to be this way I hate to say it but you're missing so many talents you have a crappy rank of lightning bolt you suck it up play some alts and sit tight for phase two and hope things get better yeah there there not there's not much you can do I'm sorry man I really am um but yeah we've got a few things left here so Mana granted from shamanistic Rage for to party members has been increased doesn't this give like literally no Mana or I haven't played a the shaman right I haven't rolled a hoorde character on season of Discovery yet so isn't the Mana this gives like non-existent so I looked at the values it gave and it just it doesn't seem good um also I don't know what runes this competes with either get oh you get 65 huh wait that's good that's actually really good okay damn all right well you can see what they're doing here they're like they're trying to give Paladin and Shaman some kind of like Mana regen thing right but I think the shaman ones are a lot better right now wait to give party and raid members [Music] H competes with Earth Shield oh yeah if you're dpsing Earth Shield's nothing then yeah that that's not competition there's no brainers Resto yeah that sounds good yeah all right nice sweet then that's that's that's a good buff congrats how do you stop from while taking up your entire life that's uh that's something we all struggle with now and again I guess you need to look towards uh priorities and stuff I know I make videos about the game but the time actually spend the game between like major releases isn't that much when they do a major release I absolutely no Life the game but between that I don't play that much and the final thing we have is and if you're on na I would like you to check this if your servers are back up uh Taylor might may now learn and craft invoker's cord and invoker's mantle both Grant additional spell damage and healing these recipes can be purchased from B Boya in Ora or Alina in Dar nasses so these are your tailoring trainers in these two zones your service should be back up now and this should be in the game I think does anyone know whether these are in the game yet later this week oh not with a re then yeah I read that I thought that meant reset this this was yesterday actually okay it was 6 hours ago it's available now okay uh wait is on wad [Music] yet gild's got both pounds okay yeah so later this week apparently can mean within 6 hours Let's see if it's on wad not on my head what status do they have if anyone knows cuz I am curious the thing is right on Alliance as a Caster your B shoulders uh were magician's mantle which was a Boe and it's going for like 20 gold or something log in and check yeah I mean if you if if you're able to that'd be great seven damage and healing ooh oh if you bought magician's mantle I am sorry I am sorry boys how much have they dropped by they still at oh oh oh oh it hurts it hurts it really does oh no oh no if you spent money on these I am sorry [Music] so shoulder 32 armor 5 in eight spell power and heal that is really powerful wow you sold two of those well you better sell the rest of them real quick if you had them anymore you just sold them yesterday rip to the guy that bought them ouch depends on what you value more in spell power everyone values spell power everyone like don't don't worry about it everyone values spell po more yeah no I the bonus in just it's not it it's not it oh yeah what items do they need do they need Shadow gems guys what should I buy I was thinking about buying some iridescent pears all right give give me the news what do I need to buy bye they're only 27 Shadow gems and wool okay wool's fine I'll just buy enough for me 10 right Shadow James I mean on we don't have our patch till tomorrow they're probably iridescent pearls I mean some people can see them what what do they need the new shoulders yes scrambling to buy Shadow gems well I'll just buy a few didn't gave us the news yeah all right you know that I'll do for now okay final thing before we start bter silk for theang okay that's that's pretty easy to get then yeah they haven't overdone it the final thing a quick gear check on the Rogue so I did level count my rogue and I have done one BFD so far unfortunately the bfds I usually do are kind of outside the times when I stream um but I'm thinking of rolling a hoorde character on Crusader strike that seems to were to be a lot of the streamer guys are playing and obviously you know be cool to play with some of them see what's up but it would also be fun to have people that are organizing raids in the day so you know occasionally I can do a BFD in the day but on the Rogue we do have a the one go 21 ooh well fingers crossed I've just made a bunch of money then okay we'll leave it at that for now though you playing on us no no I'm I'm you at the moment I'll probably roll on Crusader stry you On's lock oh it could be locked oh overrun with BS yeah there's a lot of BS that's for sure they're 11 G 11 G they won't stay that way for long that's all right anyways the Rogue I managed to get them a decent amount of gear so I got them level cap uh I did honored again cuz I don't know I just did it um shoulders from the auction house I got this cape from um what's it called wailing cin you can solo wailing camons by the way on a rogue pretty easily apart from the last boss the ver and the ever living don't do that uh that's from the quest reward I I don't know I have a level 12 per of braces I need to I need to change them they're [Music] bad uh we have some heavy gloves just 16 attack power windborn Bel some ay leggings of the Fang you can also solar that on a rogue pretty easy to do um I got these from a quest somewhere stockades yeah stockades I think uh seal and ren again that's Alliance only this one protector's ban that's from waron gch that's from waron Gulch that's from aest and wetlands Alliance only I think uh Boe and in my first in my my first black fathoms deep I sof resed a certain weapon and that certain weapon just so happened to [Music] drop so I got the new sword and uh I have to say this sword is pretty amazing yeah if you're playing a rogue I don't know what Warriors she is but if you're playing a rogue like this sword it it completely changes your damage it's actually crazy good someone bought all the shadow gems on Lone wol for you oh the great Shadow Gem Rush but we've been live for an undetermined amount of time 47 minutes that's a good amount of talking see you in the next one I'll say it at the end when we are going because it is time to begin a New Journey it is time to start off on my third alt now I've decided for my third Al what I want to do or second Al I suppose that was one this is two anyway we're going with the Paladin now I was considering rolling another server and going hoorde but paladins they're Alliance only right so I may as well stick with where I am I mean I have gold on This Server so I can uh I can help this character out a little bit and originally in 2019 in classic Paladin was my first salt that I ever played so I'm going back to it and I'm pretty much recreating the character that I had then which is of course a dwarf Paladin there he is with his mighty beard and all his Majestic uh goodness in about I mean I didn't say I'm going to play the end game I'm going to level it and have some fun after that we'll see but I do like the Paladin and I want to have a little look at how they uh have changed and what's up with them [Music] now so this will be the next one let's go the stoic dwarves of ironforge spent countless generation mining Treasures the Earth hidden within their impregnable stronghold of Iron Forge Mountain they rarely ventured beyond the wintry peaks of Dora recently Peaks a series of ruins that held secrets to their ancient Heritage driven to discover the truth about his people's fabled origins The Great king madley bronzebeard ordered that the dwarves shift their industry from mining to AR ol as is so big you can't see our tab St have been called away to battle the merciless horde in Far Away lands in these perilous times the defense of the mountain Kingdom Falls to Brave dwarves like you do you think Mar will be used now I doubt it I think Divine storm is too good but we're right at the start the future of your people is in your hands I think these starting zone is going to be kind of empty by the way uh um why do have like a million profiles yo what the it's him Min Willy what's up with that he's not even Bor though how does that work we begin the first step of many it's not too bad it's the starting zone it should be kind of empty right how are you let's go um wait do I need to change anything here let me interf wait bars bars Bam Bam Bam that's [Music] good join for stream all right fair enough yeah I think the starting zone is going to be like actually really empty and the reason for that is because we go enemy name plates on um it's the endgame zones which have like all the layering right like all of the layering so you don't have to worry about this so much in the early game zones cuz everyone's layered and playing on you know in Ashen Bale there'll be like all the different various groups and stuff rep P are not a meme anymore they're not I played with them they're doing great in the raid uh okay this this is a different experience from launch I can tell you that already I don't really know where the runes are though I know if the um what you call it the Crusader strike Rune you get that kind of early but after that I don't know there's level two so we're pretty much at level 25 already right the Tor one oh you get the Tor one early really it's going to be hard to enjoy vanilla without the runes yeah I tell you what guys what do you think is going to happen at the end of season of Discovery all right you know it's come and gone we've got level 40 we've done level 50 we got to level 60 we've done all the classic rage you know we've done our Cara CPS we've done whatever else there is what then what happens next what is the next step do these characters get pushed to Classic error do they is there like a seasonal error server what's on your burning Crusade season of Discovery holy now that is something I'm not considered what can I do for you uh let's get those see you soon yeah I need to remember to actually keep a pair of gloves in my bag I've done this before where I've been given um I've been given a rune and I don't have an item to put the Rune on it's kind of sad transition to Classic Plus do you think that'd reset our character then cuz I would assume they would no see you soon so this is for the run right relics of the light that sounds new yes carried by Frost M Troll and coldridge Valley all right let's go any abilities devotion Aura resets feel bad but what if it's Classic Plus and you've never played the game before and you heard about classic plus and you want to play it and everyone's in like this insane next gear and you're some level one knb that that doesn't feel good [Music] either got those heirlooms on I may have something in the uh in the mail but we'll get to that when we get there you know look okay I have gold on This Server I'm I'm going to use it all right [Music] yeah I think whenever they make any significant change to the game they have to they kind of have to go again and from what I've seen whenever whenever something fresh or seasonal releases it's it's always so popular like people are always down to come back and play this stuff even if they don't stick around for long like to see something with D3 when a new season starts you can rebirth your character level one and you would get a way of saying you reached reached a milestone the previous season yeah some kind of like I guess Prestige system in a way I I was thinking that actually so yeah some kind of prestige system it's like if you beat um you did hardcore and you beat rag or whatever you get survivor of the fire lord like have all that time invested you just get a title and it's like I did this thing this thing was cool you know that's it pet are a title yeah I don't think that's too bad I don't think it needs to be something crazy pet battles uh we say pet you know Companion Pet like a mini ragnaros that pops out the floor and shoots a fireball at your head vanilla freshes lightning in a bottle it does seem to be unstoppably popular every single time they do it it's kind of weird in a way right MMOs are these games about these long Journeys and constant progression and yet whenever we get reset to level one they instantly become more popular it's kind of strange it's like this genre shouldn't be successful seasonally but it is successful Seas seasonally very successful and it's across other games too like I don't know how many of you guys play old school RuneScape or know about it in some capacity but that game has seasonal servers and they're immensely popular whenever they do them it is kind of strange hey level three you remember run escape ah we've all been there at least I feel if you're a Brit you played RuneScape when you were young it's just kind of some like right of passage yeah pee does it too yeah I've heard I never really got into AR RPGs to be honest you're using a guide mandatory when you're playing osrs well not mandatory but it's going to make things easier isn't it yeah I should go pick this up I will say this about RuneScape you'll be spending a lot of time on the wiki a lot of time on the wiki holy what can I get for you today assist be see you you miss Guild Wars 2 I've never played Guild Wars 2 I have a good friend who was massively into Guild Wars 1 pvp but they never carried over to Guild Wars [Music] 2 is old school RuneScape free-to-play friendly they did expand the amount of stuff you can do as a free-to-play player um it used to be super restrictive I think they added a few more bits to it but I would generally say if you want to play it then you should have members it's kind of like freemium that's what people say right but when you're first starting you're not really going to appreciate what the difference is so yeah just go for the freet to play I guess if you want to give it a try it's a good game with you I play it on off I haven't played it for a while to be honest yeah add on stats it's called extended character stats ECS people still make run escape content they do and it's very popular they're so creative though you I've often thought you know can I do something like what settled right you guys are know settled right or some of you will can I do something like that in the warcraft universe and I've always struggled with like how I would do that if I would maybe it's just not in my wheelhouse right it's not what I'm doing I like watching it though it is good would I replace fine mantle with the new crafted shoulders uh yeah I have feline mantle on my lock and I would 100% replace them I wouldn't even think about it yeah easy replacement yeah spell power is your best St by far like far far Far and Away replace them as soon as you can I feel man's kind of got weird stats it's like 10 intellect but you don't you don't value intellect super highly as a lock and seven spell power as well like that is a no-brainer if if I ever saw one [Music] there's the new info on the crafted stuff uh it should be up on wad quite soon na just went up a few like an hour ago and I think they got them on there we don't have them on EU yet if you're on EU we won't have them until tomorrow on the reset but uh I from what I hear they're pretty good yeah so we'll we'll wait and see on that we just refresh wad a lot W head's usually pretty good at doing this kind of stuff uh batt silk price skyrocketed you wish you didn't sell all yours yeah that's uh this is kind of the this is the nature of a beast when you have unknown content it's like when we all came into this server did anyone know fish oil was going to be like 50 silver AP pop early on nope but that's that's how she goes you just don't know you know Discovery you find stuff out sometimes you speculate right sometimes you speculate wrong I mean what's going to be the good gold Farm next phase what's going to be the item that everyone wants what spec am I going for uh just leveling at the moment so I'm fine playing I'm going to be leveling as rat for the most part but I could definitely do some dungeons as prots the fishal because of BFD uh no there's a rune from ratchet where you need to turn in 16 fish oil as part of a quest and everyone wants to do it if they need a run if they want to get the Rune from it so suddenly fish oil became a hot commodity and that's just something blizzard have the power to do if they want to make an item expensive they just they flip a switch they put it on a quest they tie it to a rune and suddenly everyone wants it same with the iridescent pearls there's so many good items made through iridescent [Music] pearls dropped off low level merlock as you amazed to see it didn't same yeah I was I mean I always just vended fish oil who use fish oil it's useless right you just throw it away until you don't TR to cost 6G to farm you can buy off one off the auction house yeah prices move faster good let's keep some legs remember do not sell legs do not sell gray items you need gray items for Rune let's get this they have any prop talents R is better for tanking yeah I I guess if you're keeping I mean in classic if you're keeping threat and you're not dying you're a tank that's all you need let's get this box [Music] here the shipment items uh made through the crafter cells so is those items too yeah there's a there's a lot of new ways to make gold that's for sure consecration I think if I was play if if I was tanking I'd want at least consecration or Divine storm and obviously you can't get Divine storm till a very high level so I would probably still go down the holy tree and gets consecration but great we don't have JW spec at the moment so that's kind of a pain to do I do hope they put in Jewel speik next next patch by the way Divine storms best for tanking yeah I've seen it's really good yeah it just generates a ton of threat it's kind of a unique way of thinking about it right usually a prop py would never have Divine storm and now they can get it you don't use con H I guess it's kind of bad for Mana uh what am I getting here oh box [Music] yep don't worry about it heat I appreciate it it's all good if people want to watch they can watch it's fine you want command so you can't get conk reasonable reasonable are they adding Jewel spec they did mention considering it but it is not confirmed I personally would like them to add jeel spec um as like I guess different it is from original vanilla it is it it just kind of encourages you to play more specs right I think it fits in well with the theme of the season oh I need to go back and do this yeah yeah I need to do this first I could just he or I could die I'll just H it's [Music] fine are there new location and season or is it just different class builds there aren't strictly like straight up new zones and locations there are new quests and quest lines and NPCs um but yeah it is mostly just class changes that's the that's kind of the gist of it yeah ra it was 40 maybe phase two thing is it fits with phase two because in phase two we advancing to 40 we have a lot more Talent points and uh when you can get 40 points into your talent tree you can get the final Talent as well so that is is it 30 31 it's not 40 anyway um yeah you can get a lot more points in your talent tree and they'll become a lot more impactful in your game play watch your back so I know it's like some big future Expansion change but at the end of the day don't like don't worry about it too much in terms of changing stuff from vanilla um I know everyone's going to have different takes on it but I think it's okay to uh on the side of I don't know accessibility I guess and just to give people the choice to do what they want a bit more cuz then you can play a class switch from my on my rogue for instance the PVP spec and the PVE specs are completely different if I wanted to go you know do some PVP get get rank three get my cloak I'm going to Respec for that cuz the PVE spec in PvP is absolutely terrible need to have the barber shop ah unfortunately I'm I'm not sure you're going to get that one hi it's okay just turn uh turn show helmet on then you don't have to worry about it right let's uh Frost main troll welps oh we need to do the Rune as well for Crusader strike recover the wait all right so kill some trolls get an [Music] item any wants anyone who wants to know changes can stick to Classic servers you're enjoying sord yeah that kind of is it um I'll ising this new ability after 10 seals oh do I need to go train judgment I think I need to go train judgment don't I yeah I do I'll do that after this Quest I've definitely seen people saying you know this shouldn't be in vanilla cuz you know it wasn't like that back then or anything and it's just like come on the point season okay just say it with me season it has a begin beginning and end don't worry about it it's fine uh maybe you love it maybe you hate it just change things see what people like um we're not going to go from vanilla to Dragon flight in the space of 12 months or however long this lasts and they're not going to put in like they're not going to put in LFR or like some slippery slope thing just don't worry about it it'll be fine I think blizzard so far have done a pretty good job on the season um oring a great job outside the battle frash and male and just let them cook pretty much see what they come up with yeah LFR I know I swear some people like you you say you want a change and they're like oh next thing you're going to want LFR it's like no bro that they there might even not be LFR in cataclysm classic by the way yeah don't don't worry about it like chill seriously equip the iron oh I need to oh oh oh so I actually use it on stuff yeah I don't have any add-on for the runes by the way so I'm just I'm just running around doing stuff right now oh these place this is pretty camped in here you need to judge I I knew I needed judgment um I don't have it right now I have to go all the way back so I I'll go all the way back I'll get judge R cuz I need to come back here anyway it's [Music] fine uh will there be new runes in the next phase yes yep we've we already know there's going to be new runes what's up hey what's up how you doing man let's go and grab that they need to click on it I see can't do that yet yep okay that makes sense I'm excited for Noma you like BFD I tell you what the main thing I'm concerned about nag gun with what's on your uh what I'm concerned about no yeah the main thing I'm concerned about Nan is um so Noma has a lot of bosses that are immune to stuff like Elementals or Mechanicals like you can't gouge or disorientate Mechanicals you can't poison Mechanicals you can't bleed Mechanicals and then there's the whole you know the the place where the VIS V what's it called viscus Fallout um yeah viscus Fallout so this whole place with the Elementals is there's a lot of Elementals in there and they're immune to a bunch of stuff so I I I really hope they don't go too far into the vanilla thing of X enemy is immune to Y damage so uh sorry but you suck cuz they changed the first boss in BFD to be like that immune to Nature it should be yeah they should be immune to Nature and frost uh the Elementals at least oh Marco thank you um but it's just I don't know it's like with Morton core as well in the future ah I'm stacking I'm stacking nice Morton core in the future right what if you're a fire M it's like uh yeah sorry you just you just can't play the game uh unlucky bro like I don't know I feel like that fit back then but why can you melee a fire Elemental it's going to be too hot it doesn't make sense you wouldn't be able to hit it with a sword you drop your weapon like the only people that should be able to hit fire Elementals would be I don't know Hunters you can shoot arrows into them Frost Mages like it just doesn't feel like a consistent design F see yeah I'm kind of concerned in a way that a lot of bosses are going to be immune to a lot of stuff and it's just not going to feel super satisfying if you're reliant on those sources of damage oven gloves yes dark iron oven gloves so you can hit rag new best they made 10 R raid for BFD cuz it's small but n's a bigger area maybe 50 man I think they'll stick with 10 I think 10 man raid with a 3day lockouts been quite good don't want to play Frost Mage for 6 months again ever you will press the frost bolt and you will enjoy it anything immune to Holy uh I think hly is one that stands out that in that regard yeah I mean I was doing uh whaling caveng yesterday on my warlock did you know the last boss the big merlock guy mutus the Devourer apparently he's immune to Shadow yeah cuz he's a nightmare merlock or something didn't know that that was a surprise you want all of AIDS to be 10 to 20 man I guess they're going to go back to 40 a level 60 right for Mort core and stuff all right I can learn my Rune after this and this in and then I'll go grab it and I Ed the Rune now apparently oh learning you have learned an engrave Crusader strike there it is realm I'm on wild growth [Music] EU there it is Crusader strike let's make a quick little Macro for that readjust uh starts as Crusader look good okay great to meet you o upgraded with my weapon as well don't mind if I do grats thank you thank you we will be testing this out uh so I'll go hand the oh I could go do this Quest then we'll go over there W up running fire after I look at while logs yeah I hear fire is good um depending on your boss uh kill times I think I'm a viable DPS this is all it tuck no way and level five as well Ser y yo chill samel wild growth wild growth are you I need to make some commands I uh been saying that for several weeks now but I'll get around to it okayo that damage that is not bad I'm liking it does both do both the hits proc your um seal as well let me just wait a moment I wait for the patrol I want to check this out no it doesn't there go any procs a a attacks damn if it procs on both that would be crazy actually yeah it doesn't though unfortunately wind I mean wind Fury procs are good right they're they're a lot of fun 60 and this the difference between just getting one ability is it's it's pretty good I don't even have any like Boe gear yet either uh what's the Adam when it shows an abilities off cool down oh anyone the group here it's going to kill it too fast I'll do it next time it's fine uh the add-on that shows stuff in the middle is this one Doom cool down pulse yeah he respawns fast anyway it's fine and there we go done let's go busted class yeah I hear rats are pretty good in PvP as well right like you you get hit by that you get hit by Hammer of command and then they just absolutely Global you with the damage yeah I may have one or two boes waiting for me in the mailbox we're going to be powering up pretty fast that's a judgment it's a lot of burst yeah it seems pretty good [Music] I also wonder right part of the reason why I rolled a dwarf is Blizzard have kind of been they haven't explicitly said it but they've like almost been alluding to the fact that whatever racial you pick for your class is kind of not a big deal I don't know whether they're going to allow us to racial swap or anything or or they're just saying it from a point of view as like ah you know it's it's easy content just do what you want but um weapon skill is kind of an undeniably big deal I'll just take this for now uh especially when we get to the higher levels so I don't know if they're going to allow us to change stuff cuz if they do it' be [Music] huge like at the moment um I don't know if many of you guys are doing this but there's this funny gold Farm you can do right if you're playing a Toren you should listen up uh so basically our our professions at the moment are C at 150 but Toren as a specific race get a racial where they get 15 bonus herbalism and you can combine that with a pair of gloves which you need to trade through the neutral auction house from the alliance and you'll be able to um get gold thorn out in the open world which require 170 herbalist to pick uh these gloves are I think they're herbalist gloves right crafting leather working gloves herbalist yeah here we go yeah herbalism plus five but the recipe is only available from Alliance so you have to like neutral auction auction house trade it and then you can go and pick gold Thorn and gold Thorn are really good like next phase uh um herbalism herb expert gold Thorn oh you can't see what they make yeah gold Thorn next phase make a bunch of different good stuff and only Toren can gather them this phase Hi how are you it's it's like the most weird unintended interaction the new sets they releasing they might have an eight weapon skill that could be the other thing they mean yeah that's actually a good point dwarf r that's a good point I should have to W racial on my bar oh and treasure finding for the chess yes that get my loot thank you you know as might as well just kill them I need the XP don't I yeah but these items we have releasing at the moment and BFD are so strong so you could be right maybe weapon skill just isn't a concern cuz it's easy to get maybe you can get Enchantment of the Edge Master right which gives you edge Masters bonus on all weapons and stone squin go through the poison on the last boss I don't know um if you're a paladin tanking it you can bubble it off though you seen the new tailoring items they're not on a on EU yet I'll be able to see them tomorrow it should reform into expertise ah yeah kind of I mean it is a better better solution I guess but I think they're going to stick with how things were in [Music] vanilla the weapon skill changes com to an effect in phase two uh would have been great in phase one so many people pick human for the weapon skill racial yeah I mean I picked human on I think I would have picked human on my rogue anyway if I'm not being honest uh just cuz I think they look cool um but yeah a lot of people will have gone human or orc specifically for the weapon skill bonuses gome Rogues look good but I I already have a gnome I already have a gnome crazy that change that when you press C your account pain on your Banks would open I don't have it bound to see but yeah if I just click my character info it does open my bags uh I I don't so when I want to open bags I just do shift B and for my character I just click it so I don't know what profession do you think will get the next epic void items I think they're going to stick with the crafting professions for the Epic items uh so if you're a mage with tailoring at the moment I think that'll be a safe choice what did you change then I am not sure I don't know oh speaking of Noma you know what item I want to see them upgrade in Noma next phase where is it not stockades this thing here electromagnetic gigaflux reactivator so like you activate it and it fires some lightning bolts in front of you has a 30-minute cool down as well so like that's garbage but if they upgraded this to an epic version where it actually became usable like on a maybe 30 second one minute cool down does a bit more damage maybe it has some extra effect this could be such a cool epic item we'll see what they do with it though C to meet you but I am looking forwards to [Music] know you got my attention let's that in oh level six great to meet um where's the set mystone here oh in keeper assistant that's below his job be good yep what's on your mind and have gold you have a great day now yeah I have enough gold I have two copper left surely I have enough judgment seal of the Crusader don't need you find protection I'll put you there right guys I'm just going to go for a pee and then we will carry on okay I'll be right back in just one moment yubby [Music] [Music] [Music] e [Music] [Music] that [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] for [Music] [Music] [Music] jeez I swear when I started stream it was light outside now it's half 4 and it's uh it's pretty much dark man life in the northern hemisphere I guess anyone else in Scandinavia who are a bit further north than me they'll uh you'll have it even worse right but down does it go dark early it catches me off guard every single year without fail without fail oh I should go train first aid 1:00 where do you live or it's dark at 1:00 holy crap what can I do for you where do I live I'm in the North the UK so in the grand scheme of things there's a lot more people who are further north than me Canada too uh oh I can go to my mailbox wait wait my attention off with you nice buff let's grab some oo what do we have here don't mind if I do [Music] okay no one saw that uh these are just uh it's a big Quest reward that I just hadn't turned in yet very big Quest reward okay hello Addie Canada too yeah I imagine for sure Benny's hey at least at least they're self-impose Benny's okay if I'm giving myself my own bennies it's fine right it's just like it's it's a little Christmas present from me to me that's it it's fine what's on your mind watch your back the add on that showing your cooldowns so that is need to I need to make some commands in the chat man uh but that is um Doom cooldown pulse the one that pulses in the middle Hench the name yeah hello flammy I don't know I guess uh good RNG I suppose what's on your mind yeah it is sumwhere in other places of the world that's yeah I've I've always lived in Europe so I've never really experienced a summer which or a winter which is warm or anything we change our clocks yep the clocks go back between something like a late summer and about a month ago but yeah they do and then they go forwards again yeah we do have daylight saving or BST British summertime summer in inverted commas which means it rains only half of the days instead of all of them do I train any professions end of October October to March now time clocks have already gone back they went back a while ago great to meet you O Okay Zone's looking busy uh by the way guys are there any runes around here that I should be getting as a paladin cuz uh I have no idea like I don't have any add-ons installed for the runes and as much as I want to discover them I kind of also want to get them and play around with them how is penants healing 67 a tick bro this ability is giga busted what the hell that's like my full health bar from one Penance go to elwin I mean I can go there later I don't want to go there right now go to elwin oh well I guess I'll be getting runes later then cuz I want to Quest a bit more here damage will jump a lot from seal of the mar are you saying are you saying I should go to elwin to get my [Music] seal you have the mar then I mean we'll we'll see what we get we'll just continue chat about stuff playing the game a bit you know it's fine what server I'm on wild growth EU at 10 okay not worth the track I mean I could go to elwin and just quest in elwin there's no reason I have to stay here so it's it's fine if I do go there but equally you know I it's a long way and I don't want to just be doing a stream where I'm doing a run for like 20 minutes do you know what I mean gives your a total attacks 100% chance to deal 30% weapon damage it scales great with strength unlike other seals yeah that's what I heard I mean these other seals are like they're just magic damage right not terribly useful hit the Deep Run tram yeah I think I think I'm just going to Quest here for today at least going to get me some meat rebuke and storm at 15 I mean rebuke is okay I kind of just want the ones that affect questing right now so the big ones will be Crusader strike which I just got obviously and then seal of martydom and apart from that it's just Divine storm right but I'm I'm not getting Divine storm till at least level 20 plus and then I'd need a raid to go up the tower cozy D Mor I do enjoy a bit of D Mor I won't lie exorcism oh true yeah what level did you get EX ISM 20 oh okay well that's not happening today don't all right don't worry about that do I always play alliance I tend to go towards Alliance yeah but I in um how can I put this in Classics release in 2019 I did level two characters on horde the first one I leveled was a shaman which is called Wily Zog Zog creative name I know maybe I shall remake him and the second was a warlock called get which I was a bit I was of a bit of a completionist mindset and I made a warlock on the opposite faction specifically for the reason of getting Companion Pets which Alliance couldn't easily get yeah I leveled the Warlock to level 60 for that and I've been farming the the tabby cat and rap from the um the the dalaran people what's it called someone will know in the chat the hord only one I've been farming that I haven't got it yet well I say I've been farming it I haven't done it since season of Discovery released um what's it called I forget the name now but anyway yeah I I have level two characters on hord so I do have a bit of experience on it but way way less than Alliance like if I was leveling on horde now I would be straight up reading quests Alliance I just pick up the quests and I can go I have a pretty good idea what I'm doing it's not the most efficient game play don't get me wrong but you know I have I have some idea what's going on man this Crusader strike cool down is so fast is this was it a sixc cool down in Wrath I swear it's longer it's like 8 seconds or something have found the Tiger Mountain in Winter Spring I started doing that in 2019 classic and I got to honored and I just thought I'm not doing this like I I I genuinely can't be bothered I wanted the mount don't get me wrong but the amount of times you had to go back and forth between the trainers I just couldn't bring myself to do it I will probably do it in when do they update that quest in C they do right to where it's a daily you just go there and you like you kill some stuff you feed your pet and you you get it done yeah I I think it's c a eight I believe eight sounds right I mean I played R in TBC and six just it feels like I look way and it's back up again you know run escape like grinder that is such a good way of putting it it's like leveling up lockpicking on a rogue it's just it's RuneScape like grind that that's all you can summarize it by easy but boring extremely timec consuming I I just didn't want to do it in the end cool Mount though cool Mount I I do am I dying into this holy crap these birds are strong man becomes like the angara one you just do 20 days of dailies ah yeah yeah okay I know what you mean Oren classic is so much easier to level ooh do do we agree chat hord is easier to level than Alliance thoughts The Horde have it better Barons is boring I'm not going to disagree no no Alliance have to run more easier than the same this is divisive people are 50/50 on this yes because you play more that's fair enough you count on three runes in domara oh so I I can get a few here then right one in Iron Forge two in Madan that's good have a lot of pros and cons that is far too reasonable of an answer you must take a side and hate everyone that disagrees with you I don't know actually I haven't leveled a hoorde character personally like recently but I do think they have certain advantages which are moderately noticeable they get an early dungeon too yeah for sure like guys next phase I'm just saying I'm just saying okay next next phase we get Nom gun as a raid okay nun is here all right it's right over here in the zone where I'm in now this Zone where I'm in at the moment is uh Alliance players won't be flagged or anything but all players can teleport from from um booty Bay there's some quests you get from oramar you go to booty Bay you talk to a gnome and or a goblin even and then you can teleport right here Alliance players are going to have to run from Iron Forge over here now let's just say uh access to Scarlet Monastery you already know where this is going you already know where this is going let's just say there was another dungeon in a contested Zone which everyone wants to go to let's say it's called Scarlet Monastery uh so The Horde they what they do is they get a Teleport from a mage to the under city which you can get a portal from at level 40 uh and then you just you you go up here and you're not even flagged the alliance have to go from either here through Western plag you run through Western plags at level 40 you're grave running like straight up you either die a lot or you get lucky or you go from Southshore which is on the map here to here where's the teleporter bliz why why can't we teleport to Scarlet Monas come on man all so paladins they win okay yeah fair fair enough fair enough fair enough went through the lake yeah but it's just like why why why does it have to be this way [Music] hello combo kin how you doing uh what R you go to your priest do you think they're all the same uh the the the potential racial shift was kind of a um link to runes it wasn't it hasn't been confirmed by any stretch of the imagination um if I was Min maxing Alliance I would go dwarf horde I think there's an argument for both on what you like more and Dad's good for PVP trolls are just generally good up to you I I just play the thing you like I think first of all give hord fear Ward can you imagine I mean paladins have the uh the little dispel Aura don't they well these BS do not have much ribs on them how many BS have I killed now I'm up to four ribs this is the classic experience right here n passive what you telling me you don't value moving faster when you die are you telling me what you don't want a chance to succeed better after you've died come on now troll is hord Master race it's weird isn't it in classic you you see a troll you're like oh damn you know this this guy's playing what he wants he's playing something off meta you see a troll in Raph and you're like yeah you know one of the how many they're everywhere you see trolls everywhere they add a BFD teleport and oine this is true that's a good point but horde already have a camp next to BFD they add a I don't think they're going to add a teleporter for the alliance I think you're just going to have to run from Iron Forge um it is what it is what it is boys you know yeah yeah there's a lot of animals in azero missing parts that's for sure dude these bears are so tanky man I'm barely hitting them pun intended I guess Harry how's he parrying okay it's weird how we've never had Ducks until Dragon flight yeah something you don't think about until you do it's cuz you damage the ribs when you kill it yeah that's the logic huh I'm damage them apparently hammers aren't what you want to use need a sword or something what about City and flight point locations boys I'm just saying I'm just saying phase two if they do STV as a PVP Zone which indications suggest they will be doing P okay they have a nice Camp here right in the center and they can get there from the faction Capital perfect placement could not have gone better Alliance uh yeah so you can you can run from here in Westfall or you can run from here in duskwood enjoy your 10 extra minutes by the [Music] way classic I I I'm curious whether they'll put a flight point there though cuz they did WRA do do you guys reckon there will or is that too big of a change have a camp north of the SV entrance not a flight path that's not a flight path in vanilla yeah it's not yeah no it it it doesn't have one your nearest fight point is West Fall or DUS Squad ah pain it's a neutral Camp the Rabel Camp's Alliance it's not neutral wait is it neutral I thought it was a lion oh you making me question myself now I haven't been there on a hoorde character thinking about it so I actually don't know BR how do I still need a bore rib it's not neutral yeah I I thought it wasn't it is Alliance okay good yeah so blizzard but a flight path there please like come on I mean usually it's fine right you can run there but if it's if STV is considered an endgame PVP Zone I think they can concede that right like that's [Music] okay flight path in TBC it was Wrath it was Wrath I believe when they added that what was it yeah to be honest I I never went to back to STV and TBC but I I've been back there in rap cuz I've been farming my uh my tiger and my Raptor from zg I got the Raptor by the way it's pretty cool but I I do want the tiger you know I'm still farming that it was TBC okay did they add the flight point to gold show as well is that TBC too cuz that was always kind of out the way as well did the nuring request on hord though oh yeah yeah so you thinking of the wrong Camp um you're thinking of the camp that's here the hmet Ning one there's one just above that up here which is Alliance yeah I can't show it too well on the map ning where is just across the river the alliance Camp is like here so they are quite close together the C oh okay yeah cuz gold always felt kind of missing out from having a flight path cuz there are some times when you need to go back back to it for for Dark Moon fur for that um Quest from Red rdge the dry times and the um the welp one it's not it's not really too much to ask is it it's Alliance yeah sounds about right also I have bu [Music] shots add did the Goblin camp in dwood that they did too that is for sure tell you what change your topic um just out of Interest are many of you guys considering playing CER or are you just mainly here for season of Discovery and you've kind of lost interest in the direction that wrath and someone is going to go over here no one catter you check it out you'll playing CER a mop Hunter was fun not interested favorite class apart from warlock probably Paladin Paladin Palin s only but he didn't play wrath okay did they add two pets in C no that's Legion unfortunately you've got you've got quite the waight for that one I'm afraid wait are there guards in here oh no they just a bunch of dwarves [Music] yeah so I guess most people here are more interested in the uh seasonal vipe of the server I mean that is what the I'm focusing on the channel at the moment and what I've been in I've been playing the season way more myself um personal thoughts about C I'm going to play it I'll make content about it um you know I'm going to do whatever is in the sphere of classic well I'm still doing ICC 25 heroic weekly clears not about to stream them let me tell you what I ain't streaming that but I've been doing it um and you know I've had heroic Lich King on Farm from week four or five so I I feel as though I can say I've seen the content right can I do three I'll try two oh we're trying three oh someone else tag one all right I can take two I think I'm a strong Paladin but no Kata was when I it was like when I actually started getting into raiding properly so actually am kind of looking forward to it I'm not going to lie like I'm loving season Discovery at the moment um but Kata is going to be early next year like springtime right so I think whatever g whatever version of the game you prefer there should be a decent amount of time between it you may play mop I played a Resto Druid throughout C and mop and uh I really I really liked it um I had a lot of fun I've home passing those weekly raids I mean I did the raid yesterday on my lock and I didn't have the correct spec and I got over 90 and everything but I think so much of doing well in BFD is just having fast kill times and I was in a group that was absolutely blasting bosses uh so I just yeah 25 passes though I'm not too interested in it you're in C is insane really I hear is bad like people play arms oh ding imagine if I plan that Ding that the thing is oh I also need to put together my ra of the Lich King review video sooner rather than later right like guys the the time is upon us you know Raph is coming to an end once again it's a it's a brutal realization in some ways but once again the big three Trio of World of Warcraft have again run their course and there's no wrath error either which is why I think it's not a coincidence we're getting stuff like season of Discovery now cuz I I think blizzard uh they know what's up right they know like vanilla TBC Raph those three are easy wins right you you put them out again everything is fine everything's going great after that Things become a bit more uncertain people get a bit more divisive people think oh that's not really for me and so we have this season now you keep playing if there was error I don't know if I would to be honest I kind of feel as though I've seen most of Wrath oh you me wrath for passing well honestly I I probably don't try as hard as I usually would the thing is in rap I play a demo lock and they're just kind of like a spell power buff that the spec just it doesn't perform well oh first box nice um see I haven't been as interested in trying to perform well because my class sort of just isn't very good it is what it is yeah yo radical what's up S so TVC imagine I don't think they'll do it by the way no but imagine you're just abusing Raph with alchem Ops to pay for the game time oh man I've made so much gold off of having three alts with uh Alchemy from Cardinal rubies I have not done a single gdkp in Wrath I do not gold Farm in Wrath I only level alss and log in on three characters and press transmute from whatever it is to Cardinal Ruby and uh I think over last week I hit over 100,000 gold which is just fine for me and c i I'll be able to sort myself out with that but yeah Al alchem is a good shout yeah I I feel you on that I'm doing the same uh so we need two more of these one more after this one more after this heavy living bandages 100K yeah it's just transmuting gems trans mean that's it uh explain this to a new question what the difference is between PVE and PVP servers tested zone so yeah basically um contested zones exist on well technically they exist on every server but when you're in a contested Zone on a PVP server you will be automatically flagged for PVP so starter zones which I'm in at the moment so D Mora um you kind of only know them if you know them uh elwin Forest um what the horde ones where is it there's Valley of Trials and so on and so forth these zones will be protected so you won't be PVP flagged but when you enter a zone that is contested you'll be automatically PVP flagged and when you're in one of those zones anyone of any level can attack you and you're know with your PVP flagged cuz if I just turn it on manually here for my UI cuz I'm a I'm in a protected zone so I couldn't have it turned on you'll see a little faction thing next to your name for hord it'll be some like red Z Zug looking thing but yeah that's how it looks so essentially if you're okay with being attacked by any player of any level in any nonstarter level Zone that can happen on PVP servers on PVE e servers you always non flagged unless you manually turn it on do you play on PVE reals yes that is my preference uh I need to kill a bear PVP there's generally more friction between players more chance to be attacked in the open world things may feel a little more unfair at times there again there's much more chance for organic gameplay that grows through player conflicts uh through rivalries and stuff like that each one has their advantages and it really is up to you to decide which one you prefer it's hard to say until you've seen both sides of how they play out um but yeah I personally prefer PVE uh and I can tell you the biggest benefits of PVE they're just generally a bit more of a chill experience you can go about doing whatever you want to do in the world you don't have to worry about anyone else attacking you or anything like that you can just it's just more chill right uh but for PVP if you want a bit more variety more chance to fight other players and stuff then you should consider that could it be the Sid Asen Veil event automatically Flags you without manually enabling so that certain enemy targets will be PVP flagged um and if you attack them they will PVP flag you as well so the ones the enemies you're attacking are PVP flag flagged again if they have this little icon next to them it's like a red thing on the horde they will PVP flag you um so yeah I on a PVP server when I'm doing the event in Ashen Vil if I attack an enemy that has the little icon next to them I will be flagged so yeah that that is how it works the POG culture is different as well it is having played on both it is um people tend to be a they tend to be more try hard on PVP servers if I'm honest uh they also tend to be more active from a player perspective and you tend to get more stuff happening during the day PV Realms they're kind of um you know the term like Dad Realms or something where everyone logs in in the the evening and stuff they do tend to fit that stereotype a bit more um and I'm definitely a bit more of a hardcore player of how I approach the game I should probably be on PVP Realms but I like my guild I like playing on PVE so I've just stuck with this you went PVP on classic release nor was running uh dungeons for leveling after phase one cuz of Mage boosting yeah we could see that again by the way yeah no problem with the explanation it's a it's a it's a big choice to get the right server so it's it's worth me going over that for you trust me you'll spend a lot of hours in this game if you get into it and your server is a huge thing which will decide how much you enjoy the game so I'm a wild grow for you and my my guild is just the same Guild I play with and Raph coffee addicts anonymous yeah it's pretty much just a guild from wrath who people who know one another from that so yeah same server my man you found it fun that Guild in the PVE server they're pretty wholesome places they just tend to be a little less active in general apart from you know what can I do for you peak times I suppose you're on na oh yeah yeah of course H are you're on hoorde though oh why am I uh let's buy the rap city mold how are you one of those thank you see you [Music] soon well net and that's in there and then we go hand these over the server super Alliance populated it tends to be the case uh in every example I've seen PVE servers have more Alliance players yes Yep this is this has very consistently been the case we don't have the numbers but yeah I would assume so please to meet [Music] you the saw pvrp wasn't dead is it dead opinions on gdkp why why doesn't blizzard ban them oh oh we're getting into a different topic here aren't we so um you know what guys thoughts on gdkp before I I say anything else thoughts do we like it do we hate it do we accept it existing despite not liking it what uh what do we think and if you don't know of gdkp um just in case anyone asks uh it stands for gold dragon kill points essentially you you join a group and when an item drops you bid for it with gold and then at the end of the raid all the gold that's put into the pot or the total amount of gold that's been bid is divided out um proportionally among the members and that proportion can Bas be based upon um you know whether you're if you're a tank you might get an extra cut if you did a specific role you get might might get an extra cut and so on they're fine you're not a fan of it breaks the game hate it without it they'd be far less gold buying yeah it's hard to disagree makes Max gear people want to continue raiding I mean it's a tough one right um it's kind of like an encapsulation of how go driven people are nowadays that if if there's if there was a guarantee you could get nothing out of the raid from joining a soft Reserve Run people don't consider it worthwhile but if you could get at least a few gold out of your time people do consider it worthwhile and then that gold can later be reinvested in gear I mean honestly I've I've not run a gdkp um ever I do disagree with the idea behind them I I do think it encourages too much gold buying and it's the leading cause behind gold buying um but at some point if I did want to run more raids I my choice would pretty much be I have to do GD KPS to find decent raids and I do realize that as well why doesn't it happen in retail uh cuz you have a much harder time allocating loot I'm I don't understand the full loot changes from dragonfly but I know it's not as simple as an item drops and you can give it to anyone what's the difference between soft reserve and hard Reserve so hard Reserve could be uh say we're doing a a group for deadmines for example and I say I'm going to hard Reserve I'm hard reserving crw Barb okay I'm putting a group together for deadmines I'm hard reserving crar if crw bar drops I get it there's no rolling there's no conversation I get it I've hard reserved it if I soft reserve it that means um everyone in the group who has also soft reserved it can roll for that item and different groups will allocate different numbers of soft reserves so you might be say we're running dead R you have people don't really do this for dungeons this maybe isn't the best example but let's say people said you can have one soft Reserve in the deadmines and we have two people and they both soft Reserve Cru Barb so if Cru Barb drops we can both roll on it and the winner wins it but gdkp takes that away gdkp is just uh I bid more gold than you I win and so I think you can see where the potential concerns around gold buying and selling comes from with that I mean if I'm honest they could solve gdkp overnight guys do you know how they could solve gdkp it's a system they put in the game before it doesn't involve Banning gdkp it involves a gameplay change does anyone know token uh not quite hello Mario need the token we're fine with the token personal loot yeah correct personal loot if we had personal loot gdkp would die overnight now who here hates personal loot second [Music] question I don't think I can get I need this guy to patrol back out what's personal loot Swedish Kings I think it's just Spam inviting de climb gdkp is attract better players encouraged game for this en R I can't talk man I'm sorry they encourage staying for the entire run makes them B in the Pug format you're right you're you're not wrong about anything um but you know the negative effects exist too [Music] right so personal loot is let's say I'm go into again deadmines we we kill the last boss Edwin van CLE um everyone can loot him but only certain people will receive an item and the game decides who receives an item not the players so with gdkp one of the big reason it exists is because players have agency over who gets an item so if ordinarily crowbar drops that person who the master Lo can send that cruel Barb to anyone as opposed to personal loot the Cru Barb drops the game decides okay you didn't get it you didn't get it you didn't get it oh you got it oh all right congrats you got lucky enjoy and there also an element of um how can I put it the the game kind of knows what you want right it's not going to uh if if you they'd also need to put this in the game cuz at the moment you can roll on anything you need to like put your r or Pro and then it knows what items you can roll on lizard can make gdkp against it and enforce money it's kind of un enforceable um I think this is the biggest potential issue if you genuinely wanted to stop gdkp it's completely unin forceable how on Earth do you know somebody has actually dishonestly traded something you you just simply don't you could be in a raid and TR trade some money to another guy and that that doesn't mean anything in a vacuum got my thing the best way you could do it is uh personal Loot and blizzard in the past whenever they've changed something in regards to botting or automation or just I guess it's a different top Pap but they make the the thing is they don't stop it through adding more people to prevent the problem they just make the problem more difficult to achieve and uh so that's what they'll be achieving with personal loot how many items dropped from the BFD bosses I think it's two right but the loot tables are enormous I mean if I'm honest I've I almost feel like I'm playing with a personal loot Plus with how I typically do raids I'm ra for the Lich King I've played with a loot Council the whole I played with a loot Council since vanilla oh ding level eight it it's kind of like personal loot plus you don't always you have might have a feeling you'll get something but you don't know if you're going to get it No Mitch app's pretty fun yeah I'm I'm quite a low level I don't have any runes yet but Crusader strike's been blasted I've been enjoying it what's on your mind if you really did want to get rid of gdkp though personal loot is the answer there is nothing else which is going to provide as significant of an impact so if that's what you really want then you should be asking for personal loot if you hate personal Loot and you hate gdkp you're in a tough place there I'm afraid do Council favers Eagles well AF raided with all kinds of people and it's never been a problem depends on your guild good guilds don't make problems out of these things I've often thought this there's two type of people two type of people in this game when they approach Loot and raides people who have had a bad loot Council and people have had a good loot Council the good loot counselers will tell you there's no other way the bag loot counselors will tell you every other way is the best but I like my loot counil that is how I prefer to raid again if I was doing more raiding um which was outside my guild I'm ra the Lich King The Guild I'm with still runs GD KPS if I wanted to raid more I would join them GS had a stellar loot Council yeah if you have a good one there's really nothing to complain about I should hire more gems and stuff gems would be good in a preventative effect from uh removing Bots and you know like what if I if we just take a look at Stockade 16 is it Stockade or 16 there's no one in there the well they Bann them then there was Rogues in there the other day refresh there we go uh well it's quite a few ah I don't know that's a lot of Rogues without a guild actually isn't it huh H [Music] H yeah that's a that is a little bit sus yeah what about sfk it's quite a few that's what GMS could be getting rid of by the way people like that personal loot L bothered me just run it again if you don't want get what you want and I kind of feel the same like I feel like I'm not a hyper loot driven player I just kind of enjoy playing the game killing bosses and if I get an item that's a bonus like if I get B on a character I I I don't want to quit I don't consider that character completed I'm just like oh sick now now I'm as good as I can be I want to play the game even more but a lot of people people are very Loot and item driven like have you guys ever had someone in your guild they were a super consistent player they were on every week you know never late they always showed up they got that one item they wanted you know Thunder Fury your DFT whatever it was and they just disappeared next week soz I swear this happened all the time in classic it's just people who are very loot driven they want the reward they're playing for the purple ban trading and raids it's a bit it's a bit too heavy-handed what if you're in uh bwl and someone's like yo can you trade me some sand and you're like uh no no actually or someone want say health stone when you're raiding that's a bit too heavy-handed ban raid yo ban raid hire this man right now he's figured it out if we can't raid we can't cause problems can we if you get all your gear what's next just playing the game with all the gear that's it yeah it's I mean different people look at this differently but having all a gear is just one step of a journey on your character eventually the next thing will come out unless you're on classic error fishing is the real end game oh boy I kind of should be paying attention in this this Zone there's like millions of these little gnes [Music] everywhere get all the gear you help your guild get the gear yeah I mean it's it I think it's just fun to have all the gear and raid with all the gear I I don't know that's that's part of the fun uhoh we're in trouble oh outrange that didn't outrange it in time might have to Bubble after this try not to turn around probably get hit one more time oo that's a problem how many Health pots anyone seeing a health pot yeah I'm going to have to dip on this one I got Gap I think I've got a gap there right yeah I do this area is dangerous man I swear this is like the place where you die on your first hardcore character and you just didn't see it coming [Music] wait oh my God I have a full stack I literally uh uh okay yeah no yeah no one talk about that I was looking for the smaller he health potions all right yeah I was um I was looking for the uh minor Health Parts brain did not register s debuff I think I had to run anyway then damn it sarcastic when I asked it I literally didn't see I was looking for the different icon I had the thing in my brain that I was looking for I just phased all the other stuff out cuz I didn't want to die in my character I just like glanced at my bags and I'm like yep nothing in there that does healing uh uh nothing yep okay could have taken it yeah probably you know what you're probably right [Music] I mean the glasses I'm wearing are purely for show they do not help with vision in any way bubble I did bubble um how do you run away when things go wrong in the Paladin you just try and strafe and don't get dazed and just really don't put yourself in that position 20 Health pots put them on his bar yo do I have any health pots though Dodge it's going to be a bit difficult On My Level uh how many level C characters do I have I only have two and this will be my third yeah palon seems nice so far I want to I want to get some more runes as I understand it there's kind of not many runes where there's own uh where I am at the moment so I may have to go elsewhere to get a few [Music] more Crusader strikes a nice addition and it restores some Mana as well the base Mana restore is very nice it's keeping me going for sure okay this time I will redeem myself I have been made aware I have health pots did these guys hit so hard man he pop there judge that guy you dinged with three ringe didn't look anything up though that is the way it be Oh I thought it was about to attack me now he's just Sailing by like a ship in the night all right that works for me I'm kind of in a bit of a spot here I've got some guy over there I think he's going to run in fear hello tranis how you doing uh SC of spirit yeah don't mind if I do swing timer addon that is weapons swing timer go to elwin yeah I heard I should go to elwin but I kind of just want to finish this Zone at least and then maybe we can go to wiwin afterwards I still have a few quests left here I've got this one then these just kind of these and then I'm done with this Zone big fan and a warlock main woo that's what I like to hear think about seam madom versus Divine storm my understanding is divine storm is a lot better seam madom sounds nice for the Mana returns but when you start pulling off fast uh kill times on bosses Divine storm is just pulling ahead so much um if anything it feels again from what I've heard I I haven't played it at end game but from what I've heard the um the fact you're having to choose between seil of marom and divine storm on the same Rune is kind of a a bit of a problem at the moment right don't use guide I mean I could use a guide I was thinking about it I have rested XP but I was just like you know what I'm just going to go about it and find what runes I find did Marta get nerfed it did get nerfed um but not from a single Target perspective it did on cleave um but they've buffed it Mana regeneration yeah Divine storm is just so good that it's it's difficult not to want to take it they put the runes into to rested XP yeah I saw that um and you get by the way you know like no sellout the rest XP thing uh you can get the add-on and it tells you where runes are for free like you don't even have to pay anything it just directs you to where the runes are so it's pretty neat I I don't have it turned on at the moment I could do [Music] though Dodge that Wellhead does it too yeah but wads a website and rxp is just more convenient right it's an in-game add-on o who's this has he killed someone else why did gnome just drop out the sky what's going on on what the where are these gnomes coming from let me get out of the way a bit here there there's gnomes just spawning yes I do yeah I would like to find one or two more runes though it's kind of hard to if I don't know where they are and I'm trying to communicate through chat it's kind of hard let me uh put rxp [Music] on and then Run's chest so I apparently I can get AIS and D I can get Crusader strike I've got Crusader strike and I can get inspiration Exemplar where's that holy [Music] Quest that's like miles away I don't want to go all the way over there what about agis is that nearer no that's also miles away now we'll just leave that for now and carry on what I'm doing might do it later inspiration close join a group with another priest or Paladin wait so join a group with another Paladin or priest standing over the adventures remains or look for help from a paladin or priest in general chat thought the adventures remains it's inside the wendigo cave ah so it's back over yeah it's back over there isn't it [Music] okay yeah together are your level 9 Paladin um would be kind of good to get it tell maybe we do it later just just carry just carry on what you're doing don't worry about me um I'm just going to Quest over here cuz these runes like I do want all the runes obviously but these aren't going to directly help my leveling at the moment so I'm just going to uh leave them be for the time being dude there's gnome keeps spawning behind me don't crit obviously I'm saving my health potions for TBC season of Discovery before you ask yeah we can just leave it off for now I'm just going to turn it off so it's off my UI a bit but no it is good I mean it's free as well right so I know it's like paid and stuff usually but the Run bit is [Music] free and I would get it but it's kind of far to run back all the way over there [Music] all right we need two more gears Soul siphon has the same issue as uh seal of maram and divine storm it'll be Never As Good As Master Chandler no master Chandler is insane I was soling whing cabins yesterday on my Warlock and I soloed everything even um bird and ever living I should proba meta Master chall it Master Channeler is incredibly good for leveling the soul cphon it's like I don't even know what you meant to do with it it just feels kind of meh like mediocre but for soloing stuff on a warlock you've got haunt or matter Master Channeler and on your legs demonic packed I I take demonic pack most of the time it's 13 spell power and in practice that's about a third of your spell power in uh so it's extremely good the other one's demonic Grace but I feel it's kind of clunky to use [Music] right but I imagine every class has this right there's like some Rune combo that's just so obviously better that you don't want to use anything else [Music] yeah for warlock Master Channeler is uh you want to get it and you can get it really early as well at least I know for Alliance you can get it in Delamar in lock modan so that's going to you can get that you could walk straight there if you really wanted to from the starting zone pretty much actually wait you don't get drain life to level 14 so there is a bit of a requirement on it D has three runes per spec I guess they do You' got what what we got living seed wild growth life bloom wild strikes mangle lacerate all of those ones Druid looks fun though like with the drw healers in raid at least it looks like you press wild growth and then you just Spam ref and press star surge like wild growth is all your healing is Palin a fun class for newbies to wow I'd say so yeah there's been a lot of changes in season of Discovery if this is your first time playing wellow there's kind of not a wrong choice um saying that I think Palin is one of the easier picks I think priest is good too and and I'd imagine Druid is good I haven't played them in the season yet but yeah everything got quite a few changes so whatever you want to pick I just roll with it the end of the day the the level Cap's 25 at the moment at least so you have quite a bit of time I'd say at least another month to hit level cap if you start playing so I just experiment a bit see what you like dr's been challenging so far on your level 14 H maybe it's not as simple as I thought it' be I just thought when you have three uh a you know raft that costs nothing it'd be quite easy yeah peldon so far very straightforwards does good damage you can tank you can heal you can do anything you can do all three rols as this class yeah maybe it should be a good uh good Go Star surge at level three yeah I saw the buff star Surge and it looks pretty crazy like you just press the button and whatever is in front of you it's like it's gone saying that I I don't know what level you get star surge again I haven't played Droid this season yet so I would like to though funny enough it's it's typically something I don't play as much in vanilla but Druid was my main from CER till Legion I played a lot of Druid over the years star surge on R yeah for sure and it's not like I heard you can even use it as feral and it scales with attack power and it it's really kind of wonky I guess but it's it's still good what spe I played restoration Droid I had a lot of fun in Kata this is one of the reasons I'm looking forward to Kata by the way so I can play Resto Druid again um I also played a lot in mop uh healing Siege of oramar on my Resto dud was good times St surge is strong but Druid damage is poor yeah I think they're just a bit over too much of the class's power is tied into star surge at the moment they need to use the other runes to bump up the power of vanilla abilities Bing ginger dwarf just like yours it is the correct look my man see bot and frost me hold and we'll go check it out in a moment need a few more of these and then I can go over he's beautiful he's a dwarf I don't want to pull two these hit too hard yeah I've been enjoying paladins so far I've only got one Rune but just that one extra Rune is very noticeable usually on Paladin it's it's like a meme right it's an auto attack simulator doing B from 10 to 20s a pain yeah I think you go more of a Caster thing than bear usually you would always go bear cuz WRA was just absolutely terrible but now it's it's free so maybe you do put a few points in that star surge in between wraths and that's your rotation hyped for CA my man me too I'm I'm un ironically hyped for CA I was thinking about it this morning and I was like I I'm actually really looking forwards to it I don't know how much I'll stream it and stuff cuz the part of the reason I want to stream this is cuz it's new and we can talk about all the changes and stuff and it's just like a fresh perspective on the game but uh I am looking forwards to kada yeah your rat dreams in kada oo you like the holy you're holy power enjoyer I'm going to be real I don't like I don't like holy power they when they put holy power in C I was I thought they put it in mob before I started looking back into the game and I was like oh it's in C okay pass one more be why I done for these spell overlay that is this one Doom cool down pulse there you go let's go Frost M hold holy combo points yeah holy combo points not for me when have I played a paladin in retti I played a paladin at the start of Warlords of dror I played a rat so I believe they were good when the expansion first launched and then I kind of quit cuz there was nothing to do and then I remember starting playing wad again towards the end I played a marksman Hunter when they had Chimera shot that would hit two Targets one of the shots would do nature the have a frost and it did like so much damage and then Legion came out and I initially played Mage and then I played Rogue and then I played a bit of Hunter and then I played Warlock and I've kind of played warlock ever since R PVP was amazing the first patch and wad I remember them being really good that's kind of why I rolled it like I wasn't invested in R I just I was like oh go yeah this class is good I'm going to play it speaking of w what if we got W remastered with all the cut content you know I've got a video about this I finished it a bit ago um about how far classic will go as a game in terms of the how can I put it retail classic the live version of the game that's going to be progressing to C and I could see it going to Legion as a short version if if and when bold statement as that may be they get to wad I don't think they are going to restore old content um because it's it's just not going to be worth it basically you going discover the cabern here I I swear you could oh well maybe I didn't want to go down here exactly but yeah two G car two guildies carry you got Divine storm at level six he'll like five targets at once holy crap that sounds amazing if classic gets to one it' be sad and hilarious yeah I know it'd be such it would be meaned into Oblivion everyone will laugh at it everyone will meme it but hey if you want to get to Classic Legion you kind of got to do that don't you do you not want to go back to BFA and farm pears and Islands I love my Island weeklys I love them this is fine yo but Zulo is a rogue and I remember that top DPS by the way uh C when they added soulburn uh yes yes you're correct I think it might work a bit differently from it did in mop though I haven't looked to mop stuff for a while so I could be wrong on that I'm going to help a homie out here get him you can get him you can do it oh someone else helped him when Resto Druid and cata kind of they were super manner intensive they were one of the more manner effici healers uh all healers got overhauled pretty heavily in C and the the dynamic of what went into healing just changed if you sat there and spammed regrowth you would go o in 30 seconds but they did have the opportunity to be more manner efficient I heard people solo healing uh rag 25 heroic on Resto or maybe it was 10 it's probably 10 thinking about it yeah 25 25 solo healing sounds ridiculous now I think about it but I think they're meant to be pretty good I would like to play one again but again it depends what's viable the problem with these harder games like cater and Beyond is when you're playing a Healer you always want to be viable because I guess viable is the wrong word needed needed yeah CU if you're not needed what happens is you get to a boss that you've progressed and then your raid leader says oh yeah we we don't need we don't need four healers for this go DPS what if I don't want to play DPS what if I want what if I rolled a Healer because I wanted to heal believe it or not that's kind of the problem with healers and uh some of these future expansions so we'll see exactly why you hate Mythic plus oh you have to damage a lot too right is it C the added atonement yes correct s that Beacon isn't as good as penants well I mean you could have said penants or circle of healing or prayer of Mandy like oh boy take take your pick which one you're worst can I get for you today yeah priest are good though I'm sure you will get Buffs right let's head back you hate atement o actually we'll get the shimmerweed [Music] first I guess you you don't want to play a mage then you don't want to play a mage healer stay away from that cuz Mage healers in season of Discovery are uh it's pretty much just a toen [Music] yeah oh you didn't like it yeah I guess if if you don't do damage through healing then they're not going to be for you and you should pick something a bit more traditional um which is to say any of the other healers literally any of them just pick another one TBC was circle of healing and you didn't mind it I mean I've seen priest uh solo heal BFD with circle of healing especially when you can allow multiple people to drop and then talk them up it's very manner efficient and priest are just they're just very strong at the moment but then again you know people about a DPS being too good no one complains about a Healer being too good if a healer's too good everyone's chill with it cuz you know if a heal is too good that just benefits everyone doesn't it Everyone Loves A Healer being too good imagine if a tank was too good like is anyone going to say no this this tank is too good at holding threat please Nerf them nope everyone's going to say yo this tank is great I love them it's and a different vibe to it isn't it they don't feel I mean I've healed raids in the past you do kind of compete for numbers where you can I consider the Trailblazers or or SRS if I had more free time uh I probably would have given it a go but at the moment I just I just it I know how much time old school RuneScape takes to get into and if I play it and I really like it I'm just going to get addicted and I I can't spend that much time on it looks fun though looks like a lot of fun I'll take one more lightning Bol here one more belly Health pot I'm glad they didn't crit there I would have died cheeky Hill see that guys I remembered my health po I'm learning I think these guys melee yeah they do look at Warrior Fury Pro is already the best tank for dealing more damage the most DPS yeah it's funny on the um video I made the other day about PS versus melee kind of thing there was a there's a com and they got a fair number of up votes and uh the gist of it was essentially the the hybrid tanks was justified you know if your class deals a lot of damage or they do a lot of healing they should be weaker in other regards and I just really don't think that fits for season of Discovery anymore like you could play a mage you could do great on the DPS meters you could swap one Rune out and suddenly you're a Healer or suddenly you're you know able to clear in entire dungeons by yourself by doing so much damage so this whole hybrid taxs thing really feels like it it just doesn't make sense anymore with the new roles in the game tanks being op because of damage like Revenge uh yeah I mean you could solo dungeons with a pro warrior in Wrath that's for sure get some shimmerweed very nice everyone's hybrid except Hunter yeah that's the weird thing right Hunters are technically the only nonhybrid but I mean look hands up if anyone had a hunter pet tank The Raid cuz I know I have hunter pets have been better than actual tanks um pre post Nerf as well by the way this isn't just pre-nerf ridiculous hunter pets doing stupid stuff oh I should go over here first yeah but hunter pets have been crazy this season r p seems good yeah r r seems fine for a tank I mean at the end of the day vanilla tanking is about holding threat if you don't die you know that's good too but as long as you hold threat that's the main thing this is why Fury prop is the thing like it's a tank that goes into Fury spec because it generates more threat vanilla tanking really isn't about mitigating damage unless you absolutely have to like when I'm talking about have to I mean fights like Patchwork for instance but even then didn't didn't people fury on Patchwork or I or I uh I'm misremembering that maybe they did maybe they didn't yeah the absolute cruxs of vanilla tanking is generating threat and these pets yeah scorpion tanking kis exactly but back when we had season of scorpions and then we had season of wind serpents and now back to using cats again and stuff Hunters almost can be a hybrid and the hybrid they bring with them doesn't affect their damage if anything it makes them do more damage with how strong BM is at the moment Fury props an Abomination they have the absolute same rotation as Fury just deal 20% less damage and no other tank can even come remotely close it's it's kind of weird isn't it it's it's just a product of threat mattering more than anything else like Shaman I was speculating in my videos um a while back with you um about whether Shaman would have some kind of like Fury prop build where they have um rock rock by in main hand with way of Earth and then flame tongue and uh lava lash in off hand and it looks like that's happening by the way this is what maybe one of the crazy the hypotheticals I came up with where I where I wasn't completely wrong cuz as long as you're not going o it's going to generate more threat and again vanilla tanking is about threat am I done here also thanks BT I don't know if I said that already but I appreciate that poor void worker yep void War is um pretty bad do I need to is this the step where I buy something be good uh this keep your feet on ground Shaman's man I hear Shaman are really strong what's on your mind there we go wait there we go okay A bit of quest uh remembering there now but it feels like most of the new tanks are really good if anything the ones that are bit behind are Druid um just cuz the lack of AOE Rogue because of a lack of AOE and I haven't really haven't really played with a prop Warrior yet save travels tank Shaman's better than prop Palin I mean I haven't played with one but from what I hear though really good which is a good thing right kiss the do oh yeah I need my spirit B hi you're a tall one often away actually this this tanking talk got me thinking about something so guys when eventually we reach level 60 um or maybe even before that we don't know if this will happen before it do you want to go back to 40 Man raiding or do you prefer that we have smaller raids and shorter lockouts now like would you want M mold molt molon Molton core to be on a 7-Day lockout with a 20 player limit or something see you soon or as soon as we're at that threshold do you want to go back to to the bigger raids what do you think about that smaller and shorter smaller raids 3day lockouts great better for catching people up this is true this is true you like 40 player raids no 40 play Keep It smaller 25 Max 40 player is so hard to schedule yeah that's what I hear alts benefit too yeah you're right they do keep the larger raids and add more smaller ones I mean the new raids could be the smaller ones right cuz some of this loot we're getting right now on BFD is just crazy strong that it might still be optimal to run BFD next phase we don't know that yet that could be the case alah holic the 3-day reset is rough you've had to do five raids in three days ah man I feel you on that I I wouldn't over stress yourself on that I know it's easy to fall into the fomo Trap but yo just just just chill on it don't burn yourself out man trust 100 man raid woo you imagine rolling three deep three raids deep into M core I think the organizational problem is the biggest issue CU it's like you know that Meme where it's it's like who wants 40-man raids and everyone puts their hand up and it's like who wants to organize 40-man raids and everyone's like looking down at their feet no one's got their hand up cuz it is a pain in the ass to organize like let's be real I've never organized one and I would never want to it's a lot of people it's a lot of loot drama it's a lot of organization it's a lot of setup it's a lot of pre-planning it's a lot of [Music] everything do many of you guys League guilds or anything back in 2019 classic re-release maybe even before that or in other versions of well you leg guilds before has leading a 40m raid been harder and anything like that uh how'd you get up here so I feel as though especially with how loot is distributed it's so difficult did I miss the group I did miss the group I'm level nine I think I can do this if I C it back I've got a health pot I think I can do [Music] it I'll wait [Music] here Le one in mop for memories you wouldn't do it again I find this is very consistent among people that run guilds they're like they look back to it that they look back to it they're like yeah that was fun yeah but I wouldn't do it again you know another thing about these smaller raid sizes is um now in season of Discovery we have more we have more class roles right so there being smaller raids actually does benefit more people that want to tank traditionally in a 40-man raid you'll have what two main tanks and a bunch of off tanks how many warlocks how many Rogues how many shamans could fit into that role if anything having small raids benefits people who want to play the new diverse roles so I think that's another sort of thing you may not initially think of but I reckon is true let's take this guy down here cing him a bit here and I'm going to drop off the edge and heal he's going to have to run around there sh ra I don't know what that is I'm just going to heal it's one hit on me yep good I don't have Hammer Justice sh which is a bit of a problem I would have liked that here going to keep running I don't have lay on hands either need to watch myself a bit I need to pot here in case he crits he did crit good job I potted he's getting towards 50% keep cutting him he's done his cast again so I'm going to cast my thing as well he's only going to one melee in that he's about 50% so uh yo Mr Mountaineer would you like to help and thank you very much just that [Music] easy delegation can help yeah for sure I think you you need like a team around you right it's organizing 40 people is crazy like can you imagine having to organize 40 people at work that's so many great to meet you I think I got Hammer from this I do the cold Ridge Hammer 8.3 DPS compared to 2.6 that's a pretty good upgrade I will take that pman absolutely Luke let's go over here and clear these out at least doing it at work you get paid hopefully yeah I me from what I hear there's a lot of uh there's a lot of working from home people on wow so look uh a few of you guys are probably watching me and getting paid so I see you out there I see you more power to you though yeah I think generally for smaller raid sizes i' I'd kind of be down with it to allow more people to tank and it's just more casual friendly right and it at the end of the day it's a season right without getting too torn up in things it's a season it's going to have beginning date it's going to have an end date what we do here is kind of fleeting that would be used okay yeah there's there's one or two of you hey I respect it I used to work night shifts and I'd watch I'd watch uh twitch or YouTube all the time hello tosp I would do it all the time I'd have a night shift where I used to work and it was it was 7:00 p.m. till 7:00 a.m. so a pretty hefty shift but it was it was like dead we never had anything to do and you just it was honestly it was kind of chill I did get kind of bored with it eventually but yeah you you clock in and you just you just watch streams and stuff it was nice in a way didn't have too much to worry [Music] about you're on standby gaming and watching me well getting paid my man now that's the grind you want to be on working from home hearstone absolutely anything anything apart from from working Classic's going to feel so boring Bland after this season ends that's a big question isn't it what happens at the end of the season I was trying to think about this for a video today um I was writing a bunch of stuff down and I honestly came to the conclusion I have no idea like I really cannot say like I can't even speculate cuz like are they going to send are they going to send us to class Sara where we don't have any of these abilities or anything like if anyone's been enjoying sod for like the the entire season they're just not going to play those characters you might as well delete them and they're going to have all these new items as well I really have no idea what they're going to do after this ends you don't know if blizzard knows I don't think they do yeah I I agree they don't wa am I dying here I'm good so turns into Classic Plus I mean I hope so I love that but well if we're getting Classic Plus I'm I'm going to tell you right now the servers will reset and you will not be able to carry over with these characters we have at the moment um I am very sure about this they've said a lot of times the characters aren't going to be deleted there'll be a permanent season of Discovery like season season or eror then I don't it just feels like another way they're splitting the game blessing of Might uh oh that's a good point thank you I didn't think I had I didn't think I'd train that rank yet uh let's eat some food are you I'm okay with a reset if there's a fresh content um yeah if there's fresh content I think people will be fine with it i' be fine with it like I'm I'm quite happy to put however many hours I enjoy into a character into it and then if something else new comes out well I can play that too comine sod with era the reason why they won't do it is because people who have played sod would have an enormous advantage in terms of character power gain over somebody starting and people may get the feeling that the it's fomo it's fear of missing out it's that I didn't do all this stuff when you had the opportunity to do this stuff and I I'm behind because of it and you know know you're not wrong in feeling that way and if someone invests more time they should have an advantage but there was no way to have known that you would have had that Advantage if you see what I mean so it makes complete sense to wipe everything clean and go again you leveled a pal to the same level yeah uh I just didn't it it didn't Zone into my brain that I would have had that ability yet I just press I press a learn everything when I go to the class trainer and I'm like okay next next Quest please thank you uh so I need two more bone Snappers that's why I feel they take it to TBC and the abilities we have from TBC runes together with what we get from there and later I I doubt they'll do TVC if I'm honest I I think they're just going to stick to vanilla this version is of the game is the one that's [Music] stuck people on Arrow would be livid if anything from sod changed it I think they would and I think they would be right to do so uh like at the moment if somebody said uh oh you know I've been playing sod I hate all the changes I hate all these new quests and stuff I just say well you don't need to play it eror is there for you and then imagine if blizzard went and changed era because of sod one day they'd have a right to be mad about that and I wouldn't blame them yeah I I think there is a lot of wisdom in keeping them separate uh so I need one more bones Snapper best version seems to be that way huh it's the one that's got the most legs it's the one that people keep going back to vanilla is uh kind of Timeless keeps going and going and going love how popular ARA got before sord it's still pretty good you know like It's Not Dead by any stretch of the imagination both hardcore and error have experienced a player um drop off I guess y well will that's me y cigs oh my God my brain cigs what up happy all days to you two brother I hope you're doing well but even wrath because of season of Discovery has seen quite the drop off you know I mean um I I was think about talking about this earlier but show you this real quick so this is ironforge dopro if you don't know it basically scrapes Warcraft logs for the number of passes that have been logged for each um spec within the game and uh as you can see here when ICC was first coming out you know we've got nearly 400,000 active Raiders that's pretty good and a week goes by still near 400k and then since season of Discovery came out on the 30th of nove November yeah 30th of November uh this was the week beforehand so there was already a pretty significant drop off and the subsequent week they experienced you know a drop off of some another nearly 50,000 Raiders and then the week after that a similar story I me the the speed at which wrath has kind of fallen off is pretty staggering to be honest Believe season of Discovery is the way forwards yeah I I I I mean I thought this for a long time the on your mind future is in delivering new content which people haven't seen before people don't know about them people can get excited about whilst there's always going to be people that love that original format of vanilla they want to play a warrior they want to get the world buff they want to blast that's fine that exists it's on error you can do that right now you can do it today if you wanted to um but at the end of the day there's always going to be people who want to look forward to the next thing also on its final patch yeah this this did happen with every final patch but I don't think with such um what's the word it didn't happen so fast didn't happen so instantly where season of Discovery happened the and the player base went poof like like that you know a friend told me come back to Raft he something to S off S is the hot Thing by now but we'll see how long it lasts for right shock two you feel like so many people play classic for WRA and it's not as popular as you think it' have been or expected now it's here yeah I mean I think a lot of people wanted to see it through and to defeat arthus again but I was looking on Warcraft logs earlier and there're about 1,400 kills on Lich King 25 heroic but uh maybe for a lot of people you kill office on whatever difficulty you want and you're like job done right I don't need to see any more for the expansion um I go up here first right yeah yeah I go up here [Music] oh a BFD CB man I mean it's a short raid like I wouldn't get hung I've missed multiple raid uh lockouts in BFD like if I get my if I get a B item I get a B item if I don't get a B item I you know it's it's fine the level cap will be advanc to 40 we can go on from there uh do Divine do paladins have Divine storm for season of Discovery they do but it's quite a high level Rune to obtain so I cannot get that at level 10 I mean actually I could get it at level 10 but I'd need a lot of help I could not do it solo what's on your mind star surge is the exception to the coefficient rule huh I have no idea these are new abilities who knows what wonky stuff they do right can't SOL at 25 um yeah probably not as a paladin that would be pretty tough I could do it as a wall I soled it as a wall 25 I did that but warlocks have a demon right so you can kind of cheese stuff talk to this guy get it at 20 that might be more difficult now right there's going to be depends how many people are still leveling and stuff group for the last part again yeah again probably maybe if you have Bo of black f consume some Boe gear you could probably do it yourself star sge gets a one to one spell power ratio instead of 42.8 like most abilities do instant abilities H I wonder if that's some kind of like Relic carried over from Kata where it is a casted ability in Kata I think I might be wrong on that but I think it is a casted ability in cata so that could be why they just copy pasted the code and they're like yep send it to the game it'll be [Music] good I mean it wouldn't be the first ability which is uh casted or instant cast I should say instead of CAS it like warlock's haunt when I first got that I was so surprised to find it was instant whereas in Wrath um yeah you have to cast haunt yep let's head over here uh so your raft Guild is dying slowly no interest in C and season of Discovery is making raid attempts the new boss uh the the roster boss a taale as old as World of Warcraft isn't it whatever boss you have in front of you is only as strong as the number of players you can bring along who actually want to kill the thing I think there's been a lot of drop off from wrath um not just since season of Discovery but people have a I think a lot of people people have got the kill on arthus be normal or heroic and they're kind of satisfied with the experience of Wrath and they either say okay I'm not interested in Kata or I want to wait for Kata or I'm playing sod or that's it for World of Warcraft for me one of those options yeah I think all guilds are facing a pretty tough roster us at the moment and they're having to recruit people who um you know who who knows how long the stick around for right they're playing like this is the end of the expansion for Raph now really Ruby s oh yeah oh yeah my bad I'm sorry yeah we have Ruby sanctum that will save ra BFD is easy it is easy and that's a good thing yeah I I don't think that raids in vanilla need to be hard if anything them being easy is it yeah it's a good thing it's casual friendly you can get in there you don't need to worry about being super try hard or anything and you'll be fine that's great but then again if you do want to try hard you can get all the Boe gear you can get all the preis and you can try as hard as you want and that's fine too you don't know anything Hy you don't know anyone hyp for kada I am you can put me as one of them put me as one I'm hyped for K I'm looking forwards to it not going to lie I'm going to enjoy season of Discovery a lot and when K releases I'm probably going to go pretty hard on it for a week but as is typical with expansions from wrath and Beyond you get to a stage where you can raid log and you just raid log and then between the raid logging you do whatever so yeah I'm expecting to play a unreasonable amount of hours in my first week and after that I'm just going to kind of chill and probably play season of Discovery a lot more than Kata but I will be raiding on Kata that's for [Music] sure now Long play times yeah i' mean I've been playing this game way more than R the only things I've done in Wrath recently is my week my my every 3 days zg appointment dis appointment disappointment for not getting the tiger and um ICC 25 heroic they're just a weekly CA which takes a couple hours once a week the culture and W has been getting worse if you're not in a guild oh yeah yeah I couldn't agree more yeah uh you absolutely as as much as you can be you do want to be in the guild let's just post the 2024 road map hold up do you have a link Zack [Music] I've got it I've got it don't worry about it oh okay guys we're going to we're going to have a quick R through this oh my God ooh okay this is great all right guys we have news I love let me get somewhere where I'm not going to get ganked by a spider real quick here link um sure share on screen yeah yeah just just give me a minute let me get to the [Music] end yeah just just bear with me one [Music] second uh season discover oh oh my God okay there yeah y this is sick okay right uh I need to stop reading this and actually share it all right so guys um let me get this post up for you here how are we looking is that good on your screen is that good for you uh should we go to the Blizzard page or is this one better I guess they're the same right where is the blizzard tab hang [Music] on okay video material well you're getting the sneak peek but it's been an incredible year for the wild team we're endlessly grateful and you know so on so far for last year I posted our first road map so thankful for the team for it all becoming real uh so listing everything this year is huge six dragonflight content updates Raph content updates and the return to ice ground Sidle raid dungeon classic hardcore blon 2023 the race to world first of dragonflight season 3 and season of discovery very cool and so on so let's take a look at the road map [Music] here okay so this is the this is the more retail one so um maybe you're interested in that this channel we're just we're just going we're just going to skip ahead going to skip ahead a little bit uh to the 2024 road map for classic okay guys oh let's check this out so it doesn't give specific dates but it gives us an idea of when things will be happening um first of all this is I I again I love to see this whenever blizzard do this typically sorry it's bit off screen for you guys isn't it typically we don't kind of get this information from blizzard on um when updates are coming especially for classic I will say that so for us to see this is super exciting uh nevertheless in Winter which kind of splits off on this margin I think we have the Ruby sanctum raid and then we'll have season of Discovery phase two uh which will consist of level 40 new runes a new PVP event and the nun raid uh now this says in winter so when does winter officially end like [Music] right I just Dro yeah so winter ends apparently in uh 20 of March March 21 yeah yeah I guess if yeah depending where you are on the world so March 21 so this is before March um I was thinking the first season of season of Discovery would be 6 to 8 weeks which would have put us late January like it came out on the 30th of November so this is 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 thereabouts in late January so th this seem's kind of on right so March 21st that would be in a month kind of leeway so maybe 25th 1st or 8th thereabouts right [Music] yeah I think it'll be those three what do you think is better leveling SS for one or one tune of bis gear I would level alts at 25 yeah I'd prioritize that personally so yeah we'll talk about phase one 25th is of January that seems quite solid to me and then we have the cataclysm classic beta which will also be coming in winter so after season of Discovery and before the beginning of Spring at the end of March that's astronomical winter I look I I don't really understand it I just Googled it and it said March and people in chat said March therefore it's March let's go with that for the time being but uh yeah between that and the end of March will be cataclysm beta so i' expect the cataclysm beta probably around herish maybe Midway through [Music] February and so if we're saying this the season of Discovery Phase 2 is coming around 25th so if we count Forge from there we go one two 3 four five 6 7 8 yeah that fits that fits with uh what we've seen so far so if we say 8 to 10 we'll probably be seeing phase two or three I should say of season of discovery of level 50 around late March to early April someone from the UK March is cold and dark therefore March is winter he men so yeah we're probably looking at level 50 cap with new runes and your new raid towards April uh late um what is it late March early April and then after that we have cataclysm releasing for real oh no the pre patch sorry not cataclysm releasing for real the pre- patch Vata so the prepatch Vata on this timeline it's probably a it's man it's going to be coming in April isn't it the prepatch for cater will be in April what do we think about [Music] [Music] that H is this an official image yeah they just released this yeah this is official probably more like may may but then we'll have been raiding ICC for about 6 months can you imagine oh wait cata's releases in summer you're right y this is the cut off for summer you see this little thing here I'm I'm assuming so got to be late in April that's the start of spring I mean you see spring is like this P this this block here right this block you see the little line thingies I would assume those denot [Music] spring here's the official I mean the official link is here right this is this is the just it for you guys there you go there you go enjoy and uh twitch as well there you go yeah so this is just the pre patch the pre patch is coming at the end of spring bro there's no way they'll wait until June for cata June seriously that feels so late I guess we have stuff to do in season of Discovery right when does summer start 2024 big gap between 50 and 60 spring and end of summer it's not more than three months yeah I guess you're kind of right huh that's a long time in ICC and Ruby sanctum yeah yeah it's a really long time man really long but like winter Ruby sanctum summer C hello I mean uh as as as one of the Apparently rare people who's excited to C like damn dude I don't want to have to wait 6 [Music] months I mean I am I am going to enjoy season of Discovery though so I guess no complaining huh kata's no Hy Kata does have hyp okay just not as much there are people are looking forward to it it's not just me coping I swear um but then so we have season of Discovery uh phase 3 and Midway through spring and then Midway through summer mid to Mid to bit to late I'd say they have season of Discovery level 60 catac conas oh no I've been labeled level 60 that'll be the big new runes and endgame activities so yeah in case you in case you're wondering oh that's that's interesting actually that's interesting so level 50 it says new raid you raid right but level 60 it says you end game activities where's Cara Crips going huh but is Cara crys an endgame activity I think that's an endgame raid what's the raid at level 50 [Music] huh h interesting [Music] interesting yeah we we don't know level 50 raid will be [Music] SM possibly I mean the thing is right actually now I say that right if you look at Nan is n really a level 40 instance no it's not it's like level [Music] 30ish who will be the final boss in the SM raid the same guys it is at the moment the um Commander MRA maybe with a Twist but they they have they have to make a BRD raid like blizzard please blizzard make a make a BRD raid this is perhaps your most famous dungeon of all time they've got a do BRD it'd be too big it it would be more work I think that's another way of putting it they could make three raids in BRD brother they've got to do BRD come on come on [Music] now the RS the um Black Rock Spire it is technically but um you could you could say any classic raid uh dungeon is a RAID cuz you could even before season of Discovery you could take 10 people into deadmines you know there's nothing that stopped you from doing that it was possible you could take 10 people into most dungeons in vanilla World of Warcraft and the game would allow you to do that so then being a raid is kind of yeah they already were in a way I guess that's a weird argument though it doesn't really go anywhere right it's just molon core 2.0 don't you think it'll be weird right imagine we've been we've been doing all these new raids right we've done BFD we've done Noma you know we've done maybe Scarlet Monastery we've done these new raids you get to level 60 it's like okay guys back to Molton core like it's people going to look forwards to molon core after all of these new experiences or they just going to be like the maybe I call it time on the season you know do I quit then I don't know if molon core is a lot better in season of Discovery um Discovery uh what you call it Mastery Mastery maybe they need to change that up a bit too you are Bas molon core enjoyer fair enough if you [Music] do isn't Kazan Crips confirmed as on of the new raids uh no not confirmed no they hinted very heavily at it existing they did not confirm it came back since 2007 you're looking forward to it fair enough did I just start no I've been playing since the start of the season on the 30th of November um but I redid Molton core and stuff in 2019 for classic and me it's all right it's all right I'm not I'm not like wo M Gore can't wait I'm like okay yeah I I guess molon core yeah sure bosses and BFD have more mechanics than MC they did I I think the bosses in BFD are really good they're not like obnoxious they're not super challenging they're just fun and the you feel good about pressing your buttons The Only Exception was CIS but that was like pre when he had his spell resistance um his spell resistance were too high but they changed that now and it's [Music] good um anyway though so K in summer I have to wait till June sagge season of Discovery level 60 new runes and endgame activities very cool all looking forward to that then Kata a mini patch R risal andari um so this is like this is your your time out on being able to get your your Raptor and tiger and zg by the way uh so you're going to have to the end of summer so no rush but you know do get in there and do the raid and then quite shortly afterwards we have Rage of the fire lands in Autumn another raid which I'm super looking forward to I really want to do Ragnar Ross on 25 Rook I think that's going to be a great experience uh yeah I'm looking forward to that and between that I get season of Discovery so I'm like I'm winning on all fronts here this is this is great for a player like me and then uh at the end of autumn heading towards winter which we've had sort of no confirmation beyond that it just says end game content updates uh so if we look at this from a a timeline point of view Right End Of Summer um where we at where's where's the mid to the end of summer it's probably August right summer goes on for Way Long than I think it does and then these updates here are towards the end of autumn uh what game updates I mean end of summer to end of autumn is what it's three months right each season's three months that's how they work right sep yeah September being summer is always weird to me really weird it doesn't feel like summer anyway uh each season is three months give or take within the space of 3 months how many raids at level 60 are going to have released so when we get to level 60 we'll have mod and core we'll have Oni we'll probably have bwl and this is landing around aq40 should be out by now question mark they announced that level 60 season Discovery Prague uh car's prmc replacing MC post MC nah nothing yet I'm afraid I I don't have any answer for you this thing we're looking at now is like the this just got released now right [Music] now hopefully they change up the AQ war effort so it isn't done immediately I think they're going to open a instantly I don't think there's going to be a war effort on seasonal servers and they'll say seasonal servers are seasonal so don't worry about it like they did with the hardcore servers they just opened it and it's it is what it is but yeah I guess this is our it's our little timeline here huh you can see all that you can yeah good you pretty sure they said they will do it oh okay yeah I I I didn't see an interview so if that's the case then that's the case imagine for scar BL in the seasonal server yeah that's what I thought that's kind of where I'm coming from but then again we do have ranking you know you can rank on a seasonal server the mount is forever is it is it what's happening to our characters do you know that cuz I don't they might be Prestige they might be forced to a server you don't know we don't know we just don't know but yeah there there's our snapshot for a good amount of time we have winter so we have Ruby sanctum coming this winter so that'll be probably early next year and then we're going to be advancing to 40 we'll have new rooms new PVP event and a ner gun raid expect that towards the end of January early February shortly thereafter we'll have the cataclysm classic beta and the solo cell found mode for hardcore of the start of spring so that's is that April april-ish am I right on that um I'm I'm I'm looking forward to this by the way I expect myself to stream this um I I think ssf is fun I I enjoy it I don't know how you guys feel about it but I I always thought it's fun so yeah I am looking forward to that too uh thereafter Midway through spring we're going to have level cap Advanced to 50 where again we'll have new runes and another new raid we don't know what that new raid is yet they said SF in the blue post o [Music] oh you're right February there we go ssf February look out for that one very soon uh so this is February even so yeah this this very much fits in with the timeline we're imagining so yeah we're going to have level 40 end of Jan if not earlier ssf should have been the default I mean it's it's fine right we can have both we can enjoy both uh and then Midway through spring level 50 new runes new raid we don't know what this raid is the level 50 is the biggest question mark to me a lot of people are saying Scarlet Monastery and I kind of see where they're coming from but yeah I I just don't know I it could be black Ro mountain right it could be BRD like BRD would fit in with a level 50 bracket and it would be a good standard alone piece of content Mara again maybe right that fit sunken Temple maybe maybe maybe yeah again like Killian saying maybe you have two raids you could fit two raids in there are they going to have enough time to put in two raids yeah you're right yeah they showed a picture of scarlet Monastery at BlizzCon absolutely uh what exactly is solar self found so the the Crux of it is is that you cannot trade you cannot use the mailbox and you cannot use the auction house so you're essentially a character who is self-sufficient in their consumables in their gear in their gold acquisition and in all aspects of the game you're a Lone Ranger out in the world of Azeroth yeah Azeroth the dragons R Grim batala level 50ish um I'm not sure can they group don't know maybe maybe they'll let you do dungeons I mean if any of you guys played uh The Unofficial hardcore they let you group for dungeons which I thought was fine cuz dungeons are just fun right like people want to do dungeons you can still group and stuff I don't know I I don't know what restrictions they're going to go with but that those three things you cannot trade you cannot use the auction house you cannot use the mailbox I know those three things will be guar guaranteed on solo cell found as enchanting possible with great difficulty that's all I can tell you yeah enchanting ain't great it just doesn't fit into the gameplay format too well uh people tend to go um herbalism Alchemy or something so they can make their own health potions stuff like that it changes up the matter of the game but it is what it is anyway late spring then we have the cataclysm classic preat we're getting a pre patch event which is some Elemental Invasion I think I I don't remember it too well to be honest we're getting the new races improved Guild features uh so I guess this is the guild not the guild advancement system maybe I'm not sure uh account M collections we already have a bunch of those so yeah this is this is all pertaining to transmog account my collection and transmog and a month or so later a start of summer cataclysm classic so we're getting all the new stuff the four new raids so that'll be thrown the Four Winds Black Wind descent um not thrown what am I thinking the Four Winds Black Wind descent toad that's a raid and oh Bastion of Twilight there we go seven dungeons don't make me name them two heroic dungeons huh but what do you mean two heroic dungeons aren't they all heroic question mark uh PVP so that'll be the battle for is it called battle for G Gus and Dark Moon so they they update the Dark Moon F where you go through a portal and there there a new event so that'll be into they rent oh oh yeah deadmines and sfk I think yeah yeah I think you're right that's what they're referring to yeah yeah yeah you're right yes we have the seven Dungeons and then we have dude deadmines in Kata was so good like deadmines is probably my all-time favorite dungeon in this game or it's high up there on the list and the rework was so good as well what you think about adding a scribing profession to season of Discovery making your old Scrolls to buff up during your game after all I mean I don't think it's totally off the table you could certainly consider it it might be a bit of a step too far hey Dom with a Prime on over on Twitch I appreciate that thank you very much thank you for joining man just comes straight in and throws the prime what a legend I appreciate that oh it's ch yeah I was wondering Dom I saw your name I was wondering is is that him is that him Mr fishing who taught me how to farm my first Chicken on that release in season of uh back in classic all those years ago I remember I remember I remember don't worry about that my man what a Legend um and then shortly after that we're going to have level 60 new runes and endgame activities we don't know what those endgame activities are going to be exactly um but I guess we'll see on that nanata we have a mini patch rise of the zandalari that's going to be when zg and Z Zulan are revamped into dungeons so Farm your tigers and Raptors before then then Autumn Rage of the Firelands so I've seen you raid in cata and then finally end of Autumn season of Discovery end game content updates so there we go that's I mean come on when do we get when do we get a road map in this game right thoughts on this are we [Music] happy you see what the comments think see Discovery part two after at least 11th from January this works for you not surprised makes sense cater in summer that's almost as long as the real release catter was yeah that's that's a lot um I am kind of excited for K like I know I'm a bit of a outlier in that regard but that's damn I'm I'm not going to be clearing ICC for 6 months I can tell you that right now um class send at ra okay you read that every other day important zg was removed the moment cata launched yeah I think they're changing at this time by the way um and it's going to exist as it previously was up to that point in time I don't know that 100% but I believe that to be the case they're making a distinction between end game activities and endgame content updates is interesting yeah it's what does it mean where are we going at the end of season of Discovery what's happening what's happening to our characters it could really be anything it's pretty interesting though and on retail it's oh war war within hey an as well with a prime my man don't have to ask who that is thank you reminding me you have a free Prime I I mean it's free it's free stuff thank you though thank you tus AP ah AP back in the days on the pig let's see what the comments are wait it said there were 48 comments now there's four I've been scammed where my where's my content BL no looks like there's nothing else really Classic Plus is highly likely this point why else have season of Discovery over them to test the changes things they might want to do an official Classic Plus I mean a lot of people myself included have been saying this is kind of the Classic Plus beta if you will right now we're testing stuff out we're seeing what works we're seeing what people like maybe they'll stick with it maybe they won't but you know at the end of the day this is why I'm kind kind of pretty easy on what they want to do in the season if they if you see something and you hate it it's fine to just say okay that's in the game this is why I don't like it XY Z but yeah just do give feedback on stuff do say what you think about stuff you [Music] know Liz is doing a really good job with season Discovery so far they're not afraid to change and buff things they're not seem like borrowed from DOTA oh that' be something wouldn't it got leave these servers active afterwards I would be surprised if they did if I'm honest but that's so far in the future right now we just don't know they could do absolutely anything with these servers and we really have no idea I just play it for the moment you know enjoy the game while it's here the level camps 25 you know we're we're about 3 weeks into the server things have been going great so far I've been having a lot of fun it seems like a lot of people have been enjoying themselves uh so we we'll see where it goes but that's our road map at the moment next phase probably late January so you know if you've been hesitating on level up leveling up if you wanted to get any alun that's kind of your time frame to get it [Music] done are the population up numbers staying up in season of Discovery um I don't think inforge dopro has numbers yet I know this isn't the most exact thing we could possibly do but yeah I think they just have numbers for wrath and classic era and there's going to be a ton of people who haven't raided or haven't had the you know performance logged yet so we don't know pretty much yeah there's not really too much I can say about that we don't know how well it's performing uh playerwise but I would Hazard a guess as to say season of Discovery has been pretty popular and that uh blizzard have a a huge opportunity on their hands right now which they very much you know created as a result of player demands and they would do very well to continue iterating on creating new content making new raids new runes and new so and so on people really love the more old style SK um Vibe of this game how it feels how it looks and you just can't get this with that many games anymore and it's it's easy to say you know it's just a Nostalgia experience or so on but if it was nostalgic people would have played this game a bit in 2019 and then they would have been out within the space of a few weeks because you're not nostalgic for months or years upon end you you go back you experience something you say oh yeah it was like that then you leave classic as a whole really does have something uh different about it which has made it into what it is and the season of Discovery it's been going great I think blizzard have been doing a great job as a whole there's a few issues don't get me wrong but overall I've been very happy with it you think there's a possibility of going with a new story arc that doesn't follow retail or Classic Plus uh well Chris Metson himself did something about that the other day where he basically said classic season Discovery is more about it's more like finding old photos of the game that you once used to play not so much creating I don't know uh an entirely new story so I doubt it basically hav't another a chance to play s yet I mean there's the level Cap's 25 Dom um we've probably got a good another month or so before it's raised and the next level c will be 40 so you you should be all right um but guys I'm going have to end it there I was going to end it a while ago but then we had that News Post and I wanted to do some initial thoughts on it and stuff um I do have a few of bits I've got to do this afternoon so I'll head off um I I said last time I streamed on Tuesday that I'd also stream on Friday and then I didn't cuz I was midway through a video and just wanted to finish it but I will try and be on on the Friday uh which will be the 20 seconds so that will be a very festive stream if I'm up for it um either way though I appreciate everyone hanging out today chatting talking about this the season how everything's been going so far I've really enjoyed it um obv see if you have enjoyed the stream U especially over on the twitch side you know I definitely appreciate a follow helps me grow there and I'm looking to try and get partner eventually on that side of things U but yeah wherever you prefer watching that's all cool to me I don't mind this is just just kind of a bit of fun really um but guys yeah wish you all the best first live stream looking forward to the next one I'll see you then if you're about if you're not no worries had a great time today guys I will see you on the next one enjoy your day and take care

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