Ending the Debate on Aisha (ra)'s Age - Sh. Omar Suleiman | Lecture

so now I come to over the cat sir Smee I remember him in hamdulillah he don't Blair I mean what everyone in LA nobody mean when I deliver too much I mean what mostly was tell him about a kind of decoder so he came Mohammed in salalah Hardy who sell them honey he was like me he was emphysema kathira so hamdulillah we've moved into a different I'm set up but I pray that I lost pants on makes it more beneficial it's more conducive to a classroom environment it is better to have people packed in and you know hopefully inshallah Tyla being regular in some of the classes that we have here but obviously this is a very unique lecture that we have here tonight it's it's not one that's in response to any sort of emergency it's actually one that compliments is meant to compliment the collection that we just released which has been in the works for months and ham that inaudible that I mean on the age of our civil dialogue on and the name of the collection was more than just a number and the idea was to make sure that we don't only contextualize the age of our I sold the Aloha Dan huh in broader context using an interdisciplinary approach as did us of the law along with dr. Brown or looking at you know what the definition of a child has been and is today and will be in the future but instead to actually reclaim the entire narrative about Aisha above the allotted on and I've told this story in the past before about you know an incident that I had with a woman at University of Florida who could not come to terms or grapple with this particular issue of the age of Aisha blow the Aloha Dan huh but Allah Subhanahu WA Ta'ala blessed her through knowing the person of Aisha loved the Aloha and had to actually come to Islam through that knowledge of Aisha as a person and actually to name her daughter Aisha once she gave birth to honey so because one thing if you just pay very close attention to if you attend Jamar Altimas if you attend Islamic lectures the amount of mentions that is only allow on her gets is more than any woman in the lifetime of the Prophet sallallaahu any who has seldom and as much as any man in the lifetime of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam in fact the last culture that I gave I ended off with a story about Aisha about the Aloha and because through Aisha we know the prophet sallallaahu he was selling through Aisha we know our religion through a shuttle the Aloha Donna we developed not just a greater appreciation of love for the prophet sallallaahu he was salam but we actually develop a greater love and appreciation for her and she is our mother and so I want you to first and foremost understand that we're talking about your mom my mom she is as beloved to us as our own biological mothers would be and she is our mother because allah subhana wa ta'ala gave her that distinction when he gave that distinction to the wives of the messenger sallallahu wasallam and she is our mother and that she is the access that had we not had we would not know our religion in the way that we know our religion today can you imagine how much we'd be deprived from were not fry a shallow the allahu taala an huh and the wisdom of Allah subhana WA Ta'ala in placing a woman like each other the Allah Hana and the life of the Prophet sallallaahu ani wa sallam and by extension in our lives through her example and through her entrance into the example of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam so where does the debate about the age of Aisha about the Aloha come into and it's very interesting because the Prophet fly sometime caned fourteen hundred and fifty years ago all right so we're talking you know centuries ago and over the years there have been different attacks on the prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam and obviously there is an agenda behind the attacks on the Prophet peace be upon him starting from the time that he lived himself Salalah Hani hua Salaam and as you go through generation after generation you see the evolution of those attacks on the person and the character of the prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam this particular topic which is a favorite talking point of Islamophobes today was not just a minor point or a footnote in the talking points of Islamophobes over thirteen centuries it was completely non-existence meaning you cannot find in the hundreds and hundreds of books of attacks on the prophet sallallaahu anima Salam's character from Quraysh to the Orientalists to the to the early European writers on the character of the prophet sallallaahu you assume you cannot find a single attack on this particular facet of the prophet sallallaahu our newest cinemas life not one person takes objection to it in fact it is not even an item for discussion within the Islamic tradition itself there are no lengthy discourses about the age of Aisha the Aloha that exists from an imam al-ghazali or syphilis unbent a Nia so both the defense as well as the discourse not necessarily in the context of a defense both of those are contemporary issues that have been brought up so when we say not only was this not an issue in the time of the prophets like some in the 7th century where Quraysh employed every attack they possibly could on the character and the person of the Prophet peace be upon him it was not an issue until the 21st century yet somehow it's become the favorite talking point to try to portray the prophet sallallaahu on Eva saw them in a certain way and there are numerous ways that we could approach the issue you could approach it and say well look at marriages in the past right and you could say you could point to how unfair the uniqueness of the critique of the prophets lie some is in this regard because if you took from Christian tradition or Jewish tradition or completely secular tradition you will find people that were married with much larger age gaps than that of the prophets like some and nice all of the ilan including for example those that that believe that Maria Martinez Salaam that Mary was married to Joseph and the age gap being almost twice as much as the age gap between the prophets like Simon is all of the law and huh with Maria my audience that I'm being in her teens and Joseph being in his 80s but that not being a discussion not being an issue to be brought up and I remember you know it was interesting to me as I was looking when I first started studying the biographies of people and the time of the Prophet slice them as a whole and I'll never forget something that actually happened with me and it wasn't in the context of an attack or a discourse I was just reading in the table thought and the asaba about I'm the love nor I'm gonna be Ross may Allah be pleased with him and his father and it listed I'm gonna bring us and the mother of Abdul of Muhammad Oz as 12 and 10 when Abdullah was born and I went hmm that must be a typo then I realized it wasn't because I started cross-checking all the sources like wait they had twelve-year-old parents back to that could you imagine a twelve-year-old walking around with a child right a 12 year old man and a 10 year old woman walking around in the mess and you'd be like wait what is this that's because human beings looked so decidedly different 1,400 years ago than they do today right and some how are you finding mama Shafi I don't him a lot talking about you know a 50 year old grandmother with a 13 year old grandson and you're just like what's going on here how how is this all evolving and cases of law that took place at the time and you realize right away that this was a very different society and these things were spoken about without issue at all with no discourse to accompany them whatsoever so the question you know and the papers do an excellent job of talking about this from the perspective of the Anthropology of it and and you know the the sociology and psychology of what would be deemed child marriages today but not necessarily so in the past which is why you won't find intelligent people actually critiquing the Prophet slicin I'm on this using any type of datasets it's just a matter of using something that they know can can rock our boat a little bit so the question I'm not gonna go into all that data because it exists in the papers but I will say this why frame the prophets on them like that why would Islamophobes employ this tactic to frame the prophets like Selim in that way it's all about invoking a certain imagery one that is a portrayal of vicious Muslim men that are in need of restraining right portraying that the angry it's the same image that you get through Hollywood of angry Muslim men angry Arab men right that are violent old and you know brutal and abusive towards young children particularly young girls so it's too a Muslim man by extension of portrayal of the Prophet slicing them that way as these violent men that are in need of being restraints and it also goes to the woman's side why frame I shoveled the allaha as a child bribe because it fits the portrayal of Muslim women in need of rescue right so Muslim men are inherently in need of restraint Muslim women are inherently in need of rescue therefore as part of the colonial project portraying that entire side of the world as being bred like this allows for us to not only attack the Muslim identity in the West but to pillage the Muslim world in the East right so these things are intricately connected and you cannot separate them and many academics have written about that the portrayal of the Prophet sallallahu wasallam in a certain way that fits with the derogatory portrayals of Muslim men today right because it that is at the end of the day how people envision or how people encapsulate the the dynamics of the Muslim world as a whole so we then ask ourselves another why why do we have a problem with it why does it not settle with me when I hear the prophets like Saleh married a young guy or the allahu taala and now why is it going to rock me and we have to be willing to first and foremost you know acknowledge our own biases our own cultural conditioning that every single person is hostage to the norms of the society that they live in and that's okay it's okay to be hostage to those norms because that's how a lost parents are created you we are conditioned in certain ways based upon how we interact with the norms that are around us the problem is not that the problem is when we try to assign those norms to other societies not just you know back in time but even horizontally to other societies that exist today because there are vastly different circumstances that exist in every single one of their societies so why do we have a problem with it well first and foremost the issue of child marriage right to to to in you know completely look at or to or to view child marriage in a holistic fashion and again child marriage as it exists today and what child marriage meant in the time so first and foremost why would I have a problem with the marriage of the prophets lie Simon aren't you some of the Ilan and how well first and foremost why do we have a problem with child marriage and how do we assign that dynamic to the time of the Prophet sallallahu wasallam there's the physical dimension of that the physical element of that and so the image of a child and it is perfectly understandable and it is perfectly rational and reasonable to say that a child today at the same age would have been an adult 1400 years ago in a different society that people biologically and physically you know matured at different rates and another thing to assign in that dimension so again the first one is physical was I shoveled the Allahu tada unhappy Agustin did I shoveled a law and have reached the age of maturity and we know that from the hadith of the Prophet sly summoned from the hadith of Aisha describing her marriage herself that aisha radi allahu taala an huh did indeed reach the age of maturity that when she went to the house of the messenger siloam she reached the one universal biological mark of a transition from childhood to adulthood before she went into the home of the Prophet peace be upon him so the first one is again physical the physical biological dynamic of it the second one is the psychology of it right the imagery that is evoked in our minds when you think of a child marriage you think of a young abused child a young child whose self-esteem has been taken away a young quiet blank child who does not have any any way of articulating the devastation of their lives and their circumstances and when you look at how he showed of the Allahu Thailand huh what do you see you see the exact opposite of that in both ways number one the confidence she had in herself you cannot say about ie solo the Elana that this was a woman that was not confident in herself very self confident and assertive woman more so than any of the wives of the prophet peace be upon him right the the the character the confidence of I shoveled the Allahu tottenham was absolutely unmatched by any woman of her time and the second thing is the love that she had for the Prophet peace be upon him the way that she loved the Prophet peace be upon him and the way that she viewed the Prophet peace be upon him and spoke about him in glowing terms and in a loving way so the physical dimension is out the psychological dynamic demand is out another dimension relationships that we rightfully talk about which is the power dynamic right it evokes a certain power dynamic and that's something that's being brought up you know and I'm not gonna comment on on Hillary Clinton's comment about Lewinsky and Bill Clinton and how there was no power dynamic there but intelligent people would recognize a power dynamic right that there there's a certain power dynamic that would arise if there's an adult that's married to a child and how do we you know how do we reckon with that in the time of the Prophet peace be upon him if Ronnie show was indeed may Allah be pleased with her a child well if you study the life of Aisha and the Prophet peace be upon him and no marriage comes under the microscope in our tradition more so than the marriage of the Prophet peace be upon him and he said may Allah be pleased with her in fact if you were to attend any marriage seminar or to attend any lecture in the Muslim community about the about emotional intelligence or about how we should be kind and generous with one another and how we deal with situations in our own marital lives the examples that you'll go to immediately are the examples of the Prophet peace be upon him and our mother Aisha may Allah be pleased with her and those of you that have been exposed to any of those facets of that marriage of the Prophet peace be upon him in Asia may Allah be pleased with her how does the power dynamic look is it the Prophet peace be upon him bullying abusing putting her in her place right not letting her voice her opinions showing disregard for her opinions or for her own values or showing disregard for her emotion or shutting her down in arguments right or or stowing her away are any of those things present no you have a woman who gives us an intimate look into the arguments that she had with the Prophet peace be upon him and not just that but the way the prophet peace be upon him dealt with those arguments you have a woman that would challenge the Prophet peace be upon him you had a woman that would challenge anybody in her society right if she felt like she was transgressed her she felt like something that if she felt like a falsehood was expressed you had a woman that was willing to challenge all of those things in her times you had a woman that the Prophet peace be upon him said I can tell when you're mad at me because when you're pleased with me you say you swear by the Lord of Muhammad's but when you are upset with me you swear by the Lord of Abraham so I can tell I can tell when you're angry with me and I can tell when you're pleased with me we have the the last multiple that I gave the last sermon truly that beautiful story of Aisha breaking a plate and the time you know on the house of the prophet peace be upon the Prophet peace be upon him saying inaudible come your mother has become jealous even referring to her as your mother saying that to the elders amongst the companions your mother has become jealous and speaking of her in that beautiful way do you see a imbalance of power do you see a an older man who was oppressing a younger woman or diminishing her in any way in any of the interactions we have the interactions of Aisha and the Prophet peace be upon him in good times in average times and in bad times in any of those situations do you see a power dynamic that switches or a pendulum that swings too far into the direction of the Prophet peace be upon him and I mean the power dynamic just for the record would exist when you have any non profit PR OPH ET non profit the way we understand but a person that's not a prophet married to a prophet I mean that's that's that's a pretty you know that's a pretty difficult relationship to navigate in the first place that's pretty intimidating if you'd be married to someone who receives divine revelation right but do you ever see the Prophet peace be upon him abusing how Allah favored him not just over mankind but favored him over Asia may Allah be pleased with her absolutely not well what about then number four so we already covered again the idea here is if you think child marriage the imagery that comes to mind are the things that would that would evoke a discomfort in you would be number one physical biological number two psychological number three the power dynamic number for the educational dynamic because the discussions about child marriage across the world are inevitably linked always to education where there is rampant child marriage there is a gross imbalance of education between children who are boys and children who are girls right those things are always linked together in the educational dynamic do you find in Aisha or the Aloha a woman who suffered in some educational dynamic because she was married to the Prophet peace be upon him had a young age actually no she was the most knowledgeable of the wives of the Prophet peace be upon him she was the most knowledgeable of the women of her time she was the most knowledgeable of the men of her time as well which we'll get to some of the specific narration so clearly she grew into being a great scholar in the Islamic tradition in the community of the Prophet peace be upon him and that's something that's very important if he were to walk into Medina in the year 630 and you saw ah he showed all the ilaha speaking and giving a lecture right what would be the impression that you would take of this woman a woman that later on in her life would lead an army a woman that would you know and not not too far removed from the death of the Prophet peace be upon him only a few years after that occupied the highest positions in the highest pulpits so do you see an educational dynamic that exists in that time what about abuse obviously that's one of the most important things that comes up and is the concept of abuse when you think of a child marriage you think of an adult that is abusing a child it was a Aisha may Allah be pleased with her that says that the Prophet peace be upon him never never abused her never once beat a woman or beat a servant or beat anyone or laid his finger on anyone and she said about the Prophet peace be upon him that countless sort of likes a little I said I'm accident and I see the Prophet peace be upon him was the most exalted person that I've ever seen in regards to his moral standard in regard to his character and she spoke glowingly not just of the public life of the Prophet peace be upon him or of the knowledge of the revelation of the Prophet peace be upon him but of the private life of the Prophet peace be upon him particularly in how the Prophet peace be upon him dealt with dealt with situations where an argument could have escalated to something worse right so you don't see the elements of abuse and so the the question that comes after all of this because we said again the idea of portraying this marriage in this way in such an unprecedented way that's never happened over 14 centuries is not just to produce to portray the Prophet peace be upon him as a way but to portray Muslim men as violence men that are in need of restraints and Muslim women as victims that are in need of rescue and therefore that's why we have an entire policy that is built on taming the rest of the world right so portraying the Prophet peace be upon and in that way is really meant to portray the Muslim the ideal Muslim in a certain way and the ideal or the Muslim society in a certain way and so a question then comes up wait so are you saying that you support child marriage right so that's the next that's the the cat's at the end are you saying you support child marriage and the answer is no I'm saying that characterizing I use as a child is wrong empirically wrong can be proven wrong and inappropriate in fact our ummah our scholars understood throughout history that it was okay not only okay but it's encouraged to put safety protocols in place for the welfare of society so no there is absolutely nothing of that sort there is absolutely no justification and I can hold without any conflict in my identity that I shadowed the Aloha the age that's been assigned to her would be considered a child age a child's age in my time but not so in her time and be against the abuse of children through children marriage as it exists today but if there is no norm and there are many ways and I don't want to go too much in a detail because I actually want to talk about the story of the marriage of Ayesha and the person of ice I may Allah be pleased with her since we're talking about letting the discourse die but if you think about this the fact that 50 years ago in the United States fifty years ago in the United States the marriage the average age of marriage was significantly less in America than it is today some like my grandmother got married when she was 14 years old in Palestine right and that was completely normal there was absolutely nothing with it that doesn't mean that I support the marriage of a 14 year old today but that the age of marriage changes so dramatically over time and across States there is no consensus even in the United States about what the appropriate age of marriage is and let's face it if we're talking about you know the definition of a child changing due to life expectancy due to environment due to education and how we view education in our societies today then it could be that in our lifetimes you know there could come a time where the minimum age of marriage is 20 right or 21 right and and you know maybe at that time we'd be like you know what 19 year-olds are children they shouldn't be married so that age will fluctuate probably in our own lifetimes not only that but if you think about the obsession with characterizing the Prophet peace be upon them in a certain way and characterizing the Muslim world in a certain way and then you ask yourself well that what age are people taught our children taught to experience to experiment an experience in intimate fashions so then how does that factor into the way we view the age of marriage in different parts of the world and in this part of the world here the point being that these are things that require much more intelligent discourse and Aisha or the Aloha in herself who is an extremely personal person this is I usually gave us access to very personal elements of her life never once hinted at any single form of abuse that could potentially come or manifest in an imbalanced marriage never once hinted at any of the dynamics or any of the features that are prevalent in a child marriage as being prevalent and her interaction not just with the Prophet peace be upon him but in her interaction with larger society the position that she held in larger society is just as significant in combating that narrative that is all of the Aloha was some child that was forced into a situation so what is the story of I said well the aloha on his marriage to the Prophet peace be upon him well first of all one of the things that doesn't get spoken about is how normal was the engagement of Aisha to the Prophet peace be upon him and the marriage of ayats of the Prophet peace be upon him she was actually engaged before him she was engaged to jebaited and muhtaram a man by the name of Jubei had been muhtaram and aisha was not sought out by the Prophet peace be upon him for marriage but instead suggested to him both by a human being and an angel in Djibouti Nadi his Salam after a human being who was the human being that that introduced Aisha to the Prophet peace be upon him er suggested the marriage of the Prophet peace be upon him in Aisha well the Aloha it was Cola may Allah be pleased with her and she came to the Prophet peace be upon him and she said to the Prophet peace be upon him as he lost his only wife for the first 53 years of his life the only woman he had ever married at that up until 53 years old in a society that had unrestricted polygamy and the Prophet peace be upon him is grieving the one woman that he was ever married to in Haditha may allah be pleased with her and holla may allah be pleased with her trying to get the Prophet peace be upon him remarried and she introduces to the Prophet peace be upon him he settled the Aloha on her and she introduces Aisha to the Prophet peace be upon him in this way she says been - I had beheld in LA he like didn't even introduce her as Aisha she said what about the daughter of the most beloved person in the world to you Abu Bakr her father what about the daughter of the most beloved person in the world he and the Prophet peace be upon him immediately knew who she was talking about so she went to Amman the mother of aisha radi allahu taala and her and she says la ilaha a communal Hollywood Baraka what an amazing blessing that Allah has entered upon you so um Rahman said one attack what is that she said I was under needle suit allahi so Allah Hardy was sometime after party he afterward a he he said that the Prophet peace be upon him sent me to you so that I could you know so that I could carry out the engagement of the Prophet peace be upon him - Aisha oh no man was ready to like lock it up then she said I wish I could just go ahead and do this now but I gotta wait for Abu Beckett well the allahu ta'ala anhu to come home abu bakr the allahu anhu comes home and Halle was waiting she tells a Beckett that the Prophet peace be upon him is here - or the Prophet peace be upon him has agreed to marry your daughter and sent me to convey that you know what Abu Bakr his first reaction was was not all she's young was not see it was not even that she's engaged he goes wait a minute well had a toss whoo-whoo-whoo-whoo well he had been to a key is she fit to marry him when she is the daughter of his brother because I will Beckett in the Prophet peace be upon him with that close so wait a minute but he's my brother right so that was the first concern that he had that the closeness of the Prophet peace be upon him table Beckett was closer than the closeness of a blood relationship so how that went back to the Prophet peace be upon him and the Prophet peace be upon him said enter - Islam web netiquette a Hindu leader you are my brother in Islam not my brother as in a blood brother so those relationships don't hold when we're talking about marriage so then Abu Bakr said well I'm in an awkward situation because she's already engaged to jebaited in Multan now engagement back then was simply a promise to marry right there there wasn't actually any physical interaction or anything that manifested itself cept that she was engaged to Jubei even muttering so Rebecca said I've got to find a way because oh no man said that a bucket is never a man that's gone back on his word Saba Becker said I want to find a way to get her out of that engagement anyway because you know debated even motoring you know and his father are actually hostile to the Prophet peace be upon him in this in this regard so beau beckon went to motorman's house and when he went there the wife of Motorin was there and she said that you know if we marry our son to your daughter then he's gone then she's going to divert him away from his beliefs and introduce him into that religion of yours so before our record could even say a word the wife of Motoring expressed objections said well you know if I should goes through with this marriage with Dubay then things you know he might become a Muslim and we'd hate for that to happen we'd hate for him to become a Muslim so um I could say you know a Beckett turned to motorman's that you know what is it that she's saying and he says she says something that I can hear and I can agree with meaning I agree with what my wife is saying about debate of marrying Aisha and potentially becoming a Muslim so blowback have said well that's unfortunate and just kind of gave a few words and then he left the house and celebrated as soon as he left the house that the engagement was broken between jebaited and Aisha may Allah be pleased with her and jube aid was a fierce enemy of Islam he was the owner of why she who threw the spear at hams all the aloha Knossos Paola this man was engaged to Aisha and ends up being the one that that frees why she along with Hinda of course on the on the condition that she murders the uncle of the Prophet peace be upon him so I'm a bucket comes back home celebrating praising allah subhana wa ta'ala and he says - holla you know please hurry up and invite Allah is messenger here Kola goes to the Prophet peace be upon him and invites him to Abu Bakr at his house and that's where the engagement took place three years later the marriage took place when she reached the age of marriage okay so again from us idle perspective there was once again an engagement and when she reached that one marker which was known at that time which was biologically reaching the age of maturity then she married the Prophet peace be upon him and I said well the Ilan had described that day when you know she comes home and I sure was a very active girl which is why the Prophet peace be upon him a nice lovely law and I used to footrace okay even as they were married she was very active she describes the way that she you know when she comes home after playing and she's called and she's you know she's informed at that time about the engagement and she sees the on Saudi women that are celebrating and she then says that she was prepared for marriage and all of these things start to take place and they go into motion where she's going to marry the Prophet peace be upon him and how did she describe the look of the Prophet peace be upon him again the characterization of an Islamophobe is that this is a woman that's being forced into a marriage with a man that she doesn't want to marry of course we know later on that she's extremely jealous and protective of the Prophet peace be upon him but how does she describe the Prophet peace be upon him she said if the ones who condemned zodavia and cut their hands upon seeing Joseph Youssef Friday his Salaam in amazement write the story of Yusuf Iceland when they saw the women saw Joseph peace be upon him the Prophet Joseph Yusuf Hani Salaam and cut their fingers she said if those women who condemned Judea and cut their hands upon seeing use of Friday his Salam were to see the Blessed smile of a laws messenger they would cut their hearts without even knowing it so she described that image of the Prophet peace be upon him as a beautiful man as a handsome man as a pleasing man and has won that she would fall deeply in love with and would be extremely protective over as well and how was the Prophet peace be upon him with aisha radi allahu taala an huh well when he was asked by Hamas who is the most beloved person to you in front of all of the money was asked who's the most beloved person to he said ah ha ha then he said then who he said then abou her then her father and how did I he sold the ilaha on huh regard the Prophet peace be upon him except in love and in mercy and incomplete admiration and it's really interesting here because again we called our collection about ie shuttle dial on huh not just a number and this is really important because the irony is that those who claim that she was dehumanized in her marriage to the Prophet peace be upon him are actually guilty of dehumanizing her they actually reduce her to a number and try to force us to ignore her entire life her entire person her entire character and somehow championing an issue that was not even present in the life of the Prophet peace be upon him to say that you know this was some sort of oppression and some sort of miss doing and to bring up an objection that was not raised for 1400 years in order to characterize the Prophet peace be upon him and Muslim men by extension in a certain way in characterizing Ayesha may Allah be pleased with her and Muslim women in certain ways so she's not just a number so let's just talk about her qualities for a bit some of the narrations about her the wife of the Prophet peace be upon him o servant Allah he says model 8 - I had an ottoman Ayesha he said I have never seen a woman more eloquent than ayah may Allah be pleased with her and even mentioned he said that her narrations of hadith when she narrates a hadith she never makes a grammatical error she's always poetic in the way she even speaks about an incidence that aisha was so eloquent and so in control of her language that when she spoke when she just narrated stories and incidents there was clarity there was eloquence there was beauty and the Arabs were big on on making sure that there was no grammatical issues and nothing that was said out of place so he said I've never seen a woman more eloquent than Aisha I've never been faced he says I've heard abu bakr a murderous man and hani the first for hood of thought the first four caliphs i've heard them speak and i've never heard anything more eloquent than that which would come from the mouth of aisha may allah be pleased with her knee and he said man femi my loop from the mouth of a creation he said i've never seen the mouth of a creation of a god more eloquent than the mouth of aisha may allah be pleased with her misrule may allah be pleased with him mr. lord the allahu anhu says 18 mushaf - hobby rasul-allah he sallallahu a miscellaneous Aluna Hannon Ferrari he said eyes I saw the elders of the Prophet the Companions of the Prophet peace be upon him gathered around you should asking her the difficult questions about inheritance like think about that image right if you walked into Medina and you saw some may Allah be pleased with her you're seeing a woman that is teaching the elders from the Companions of the Prophet peace be upon him on the most difficult issues in Islamic jurisprudence she's one of the seven they had the seven companions who used to give thought were the most frequent she's considered one of the seven it's reported that women in particular used to come and they used to surround her house and she used to have you know and you can just imagine the imagery between 40 and 70 women at any given time surrounding her Hodja line surrounding her house so that they could come in and they could learn from her and attend her classes and ask her questions Imam azoty may Allah be pleased with him who's the first man to take a zoo he was the first man to take or to be commissioned to officially collect hadith as nobody says that when I asked about who I should go to everyone pointed first to those deaths that studied with Aisha and those that were with Aisha and of course I assure herself and I'm about the student of aisha and he said when I saw Allah so when I went to her I found her to be a boundless sea of knowledge and comprehension she was a giant an ocean of knowledge being the student of Aisha may allah be pleased with her I'm the love and all my reports that that when the time of had used to come around that there used to be a tent where I used to sit in and she would just answer everybody's questions and the men and the women used to go to Aisha with their questions abu musa al-ashari who is amongst the scholars of the companion says that when the Companions of Allah's messenger sallallaahu Islam taste any difficulty they would refer to Aisha and she always had some knowledge about that which perplexed everybody else so when we couldn't figure something else out amongst ourselves we're talking about the scholars of the Companions we went to Aisha the scholar and she always knew how to answer that question our weapon is obeyed he says that I've never seeing a woman more knowledgeable than Ayesha in halal and haram meaning that which is lawful not which is prohibited in poetry in medicine in history in ancestry then I assure may Allah be pleased with her so she was not just the scholar in regards to Islamic knowledge he was a scholar in regards to everything okay - everything in fact Allah says that you know one time I actually asked you showed the Aloha and I said you know I can understand you know how she's so knowledgeable about different things like I get she said he said I can understand how she's knowledgeable about the revelation I could understand how she's knowledgeable about the practices of the Prophet peace be upon him because of the proximity right it's like how are you so knowledgeable in medicine how do you get medicine more than anybody else and she said that because when the Prophet peace be upon him became sick she would learn and study cures so paola that's the genius of Aisha may Allah be pleased with her and just in studying medicine when the Prophet peace be upon him was sick she actually elevated herself to being a scholar on medical issues in that society of the Prophet peace be upon him and of the Companions of the Prophet peace be upon him Le Monde izalco she is Erica she writes a book called le job which is the response and it's all of the times that Aisha corrected other companions my Stella Aisha Anna Solley - Sahaba all the times that Aisha corrected all the other Companions of the Prophet peace be upon him and the objections that she raised when she raised when she when she reconciled when someone had when someone had a narration about one of the private practices of the Prophet peace be upon him or how he worshiped Aisha was able to come and correct them some of the ways that some things some texts were interpreted in a way that wasn't favorable to women he said oh the ilaha would correct those hadith or correct the understandings of those narrations so she challenged people's narrations she challenged people's opinions and infect their jurisprudence she challenged which he felt were unjust practices at the time so he said that you know so you know he again he described her he said you know I could get her knowledge of medicine I mean I could get her knowledge of Quran I got her knowledge to hadith I got her knowledge of lineage in history and ancestry because her father was a Becket right so she learned all that from a Rebecca but how did this woman know even medicine that way it's because ayisha's mind was unparalleled in that time of the Prophet peace be upon him even amongst the male companions of the Prophet peace be upon them and Aisha may allah be pleased with her again a woman of great confidence in great stature she said that Allah favoured me with ten things they didn't favor anybody else with and this was as she was an old woman about to pass away said the first thing is that I was never married to anyone but the Prophet peace be upon him and I'm the only one that could claim that she's the only woman who never married anyone but the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him because the Prophet peace be upon him everyone else that he had married was either a widow or a divorcee so she's like I'm the only person that was only married to the Prophet peace be upon him no one before him no one after him again she was engaged to jebaited she said both of my parents were mahajabeen meaning they were mahajabeen are the people that migrated from Mecca to Medina escaping persecution she said number three Allah declared my innocence from above the heavens Allah revealed sixteen verses of Quran defending her when people made remarks or people accused her in her innocence number four she said debride the angel Gabriel proposed on my behalf to the Prophet peace be upon him how is that because the Prophet peace be upon him saw a dream of debris Nadi his salam after hala suggested he said to the Prophet ISA go and he saw a dream of Jubilee Dar es Salaam showing you know lifting the the veil on re-sell of the Elan and on saying and how the hizo Jessica for dunya would ask Allah this is your spouse in this life and the next so she said debride proposed to the prophet peace be upon him on my behalf she said I drank and bathed from this is number five I drank and I bathed from the same container as the Prophet peace be upon him number six she said that the Prophet peace be upon him used to pray at night while I was laid in front of him while I was sleeping in front of him and the Prophet you know their home was so small the Prophet peace be upon him didn't live in a palace lived in a tiny little chamber right and so she said that when the Prophet peace be upon him used to do his night prayer he stood when he used to prostrate he would tap her legs so she could move her legs inward so that he could fit his head in the room right so she said I used to lay in front of the Prophet peace be upon him while he would pray at night number seven she said that revelation used to come to him while he was in my home just true that many times the Quran was revealed to the Prophet peace be upon him in the home of aisha radi allahu taala an huh number eight she said the Prophet peace be upon him died on my chest no one else can claim that right the Prophet peace be upon him died on my chest the Prophet peace be upon him was reclined on the chest of Aisha one Djiboutian ra said i'm came to him and took his soul number nine she said the Prophet peace be upon him died on my nights a number 10 she said the Prophet peace be upon him was buried in my room right so this was a woman that understood her space in Islamic history she was a Hafiz of the Quran she memorized the Quran she narrated over 2,000 hadith 2,000 narrations about the Prophet peace be upon him 2,000 narrations that give us a look at who this man was behind closed doors who this man was as a husband who this man was as a father who this man was in times when most people fail at the standard that's been set upon them and she you know it's really interesting because you know one of the great scholars said that Allah revealed sixteen verses in her defense and she narrated Hadees she narrate traditions about the Prophet peace be upon him in his defense even if that made her look back what that means is that when she narrates a saying about an argument she had with the Prophet peace be upon him and he's always right and he's in she's the one that lost her temper or she's the one that raised her voice err you know and it's the same people that would mock I so would use narrations that she narrated herself which is just you know sheer ignorance right like she narrates these hadith about the arguments the hadith I used in the last sermon the larger multiple she narrates the hadith right all of those things why to defend to show the supreme character of the Prophet peace be upon him even if that means that she could potentially make herself look about but a mother is interested in teaching her children so she taught us through her interactions with the Prophet peace be upon him about who the Prophet peace be upon him was Rhoda wah who was the nephew of shall may Allah be pleased with her he said that no one's prayer resembled the prayer of the Prophet peace be upon him like Aisha may Allah be pleased with her if he watched her praise she looked exactly like the Prophet peace be upon him she resembled the Prophet peace be upon him in the way that he would pray in the spirituality and the Hosier the humility that she had in her prayer read what says that one time I came I came to visit her and she was my aunt and I saw her standing up and praying and she was crying and reciting the verse famine allahu elena O'Connor that was so cool O'Connor Baba a similar right so the toy that Allah was kind to us and he removed from us and he spared us from a grievous punishment Allah was kind to us and spirit us from grievous punishment so he said that I I stood behind her on the side of her as she prayed to try to get her attention and she didn't stop her prayers he was so immersed in that one verse of the Quran that he said that I decided I'm gonna go shopping and come back later he said I went shopping and came back later and she was still standing in the same place reciting the same verse crying and remembering her Lord so this was a woman that was a sage a worshiper a woman whose worship resembles the worship of the greatest worshiper in the Prophet peace be upon him this was a woman that many people don't know is distinguished in her charity the lovin is oh babe he says that I'm the lovin is a that I know no no no two people more generous than my mother and my aunt his mother was a not Vince I'll be Beckett his aunt was Aisha Ben tubi Beckett he said Aisha used to gather her money until it became something until it was it was of a certain quantity and then she'd give it away a smart used to give it away right away so he said I knew no two people more generous than my mother and by my aunt he said that Aisha never used to keep anything except that she gave it away and charity once a poor man came to her to ask her for her welts she went inside her home and all she found were grapes and she even gave those away and that was her meal for the evening and she gave away the grapes that she had and the man said is that all and she said well comfy hotham in Makati table how many atoms of good deeds are within these grapes so that's all I have to give you but I'm not you might belittle it but I hope Allah doesn't belittle it right because that's all I have to give you you know once she was given a gift of one hundred thousand did hums she gave all of it away she was once given 70 thousand dirhams this was in the Khilafah Oh Maria and the Omaha falafel they sent her large financially if she gave all of it away all modeled Johan who who used to allocate 10,000 did hums every single month to the mothers of the believers he allocated 12 for her and I'm not allowed on home he said that in the Habiba to rasool allah salallahu any muslim she's the beloved one of the Prophet peace be upon him the prophets my son compared her to all other women in the world as the likeness of thirty-two all other dishes which was the most beloved dish of the Arabs and she would give that away in charity too and she used to take so many orphans and poor children into her home that if he walked into the home of Aisha you would wonder how many children she actually had because you just saw so many children around her orphans and poor children she emancipated over 60 slaves with her own wealth freed over 60 people from slavery emancipated over 60 slaves honest of nomadic describes that beautiful narration of the venetie because when you think I shall how many times do people think Sokka charity right this is actually why I want to just focus on this for a moment because if you walked into the Medina the Society of the Prophet opponent you knew I should buy her knowledge and her eloquence on one hand and you knew her her greatest public act that she was known for was her charity but most people would never associate that with nyesha there's a very famous narration that a woman came to Ayesha Ayesha gave her the only three dates that she had in the home so she gave two dates to her children and then as she was about to eat the one date that was given to her her children started to grab for that date and she toured that date into two halves and she gave it to her children and I should told the Prophet peace be upon him about that because she was she was she was amazed by that and the Prophet peace be upon him said Allah will show her mercy because of the mercy towards her children because of the mercy she showed towards her children verily Allah will show her mercy as well but EDA who was the fruits servant of Aisha she tells the story about how there was a beggar that came to the door once at the house of high essure and knocked on the door because ayisha's house was known to be a house for charity she'd give whatever she had in her cabinets everything in charity and Bettina's said we've got nothing so I just stopped her and said no no I think we have some barley she scrapped in the house until she found a bag of barley and she gave it away but eita said you know but Ito laughed at her and said you know you're fasting right like how are you even gonna break your fast you imagined the wife of the Prophet peace be upon him the greatest scholar in that time this saves this woman who occupies the position of mother of the umma and there is a fear that she wouldn't have anything to break her fast on like think about that right and Benita says well how are you gonna break your fast and she laughed at her and I he's just simply smiled and said Allah will provide and she went back to her prayer and then just as she was just right as she started to pray Muffit up now she had it and broke her fast someone knocked on the door and I started to you know and gave gifts and gave a goat an entire goat as a gift to Aisha may Allah be pleased with pleased with her and I smiled aberdeen and she said i swear by allah none of you truly believes until you trust allah more than what you trust that which is in your no one of you truly believes until you trust a lot more than you trust that which is in your hint like I had more trust in Allah that he would provide for me than a person who actually has the food sitting on the table that was a woman that was a sage what was her fasting like awesome the son the grandson of Abu Bakr did the nephew of Aisha awesome said Canada I said too soon with devil so the Aisha fasted like every single day she was always fasting you'd never find out he said not fasting so this woman that narrated about the fasting of the Prophet peace be upon him her nephew says I never found her not fasting she was fasting every single day of her life pretty much except for the days that it was prohibited to fast and Qasim said and though she was the most knowledgeable of the Companions she was also the most humble of the Companions and if she did not have an answer she preferred other people to answer a question so when someone came to her for example and asked her once a question she said it ti Li and for in arnhem OB that he come in he said go to Adi because Ali understands that particular must other knows that particular issue far better than I do so these are the quotes or these are the stories that we have to tell about this mother of ours of this great woman don't dehumanize her by reducing her to a number and don't fool yourself by accepting an ignorant simplistic narrative that mischaracterizes her marriage not just against all of the religious knowledge that we have about the Prophet peace be upon him but literally against every intelligent anthropology study about how societies function at the time and how they function today it's it just doesn't make sense for us to allow that narrative to reduce her and so you know we presented and I have to come to the conclusion now we we presented this you know this collection hamdulillah where we had you know for essays for publications about the age of addressing it from different angles and someone says well you know there is one publication which we a lot and someone says what about the opinion that she was older what if she is actually much older than we think and we just didn't know better right and I want to actually address that for a moment first of all let's acknowledge that the desire to readily accept an opinion that she was actually much older okay is not grounded in reality but grounded in our own insecurities and how much we always want to ward off any criticism about our faith right even if that means you know accepting opinions that are minor or sometimes even outright dishonest and saying we just want to we want to ward off any criticism about Islam we have enough to fight off already not recognizing that you know that this framework of our religion and of Muslims is one that has been put forth for the sake of political gains and for the sake of cultural exploitation and many other things so that's the first thing so let's you know we have to acknowledge that most people you know it's confirmation bias you want to find what you want to find it's like you know what I don't want to have to even deal with the question as a whole so let me just go ahead and find you know the the articles in the opinions that she was older secondly it is a minor opinion in that is it is as new as the criticism of the Prophet peace be upon and marrying or marrying her at a young age so I'm gonna say that again it is as new as the criticism of the Prophet peace be upon him for marrying her at a young age so proponents of an opinion that I so is actually a lot older than it suggests that in the narration in Behati they would say that that's because her age was never a topic of discussion in the past okay so just like the criticism is new the entire discourse about her age is new so they would say that's why we don't find this opinion in Islamic history because the discourse didn't exist in Islamic history in the whole but nonetheless it's a minority contemporary view that arises out of implicit evidence against explicit evidence to the contrary so even if it is a view a legitimate view it would be a minority view a contemporary view that that arises again based on implicit evidence against and you know explicit evidence to the contrary thirdly and this is actually something very important because you know sometimes some brothers and sisters like no you know we've we can't even we can't entertain any discussion about her age or what her age was and things of that sort and I really want to make this I think it's an important point to make arriving at this view by rejecting the tradition is not acceptable so there are some thinkers out there that would throw doubt on the entire existence ah he had Mahadi and try to uproot the tradition to prove this point which is a much bigger problem than believing that I shadowed the Aloha I was a lot older than what we find in our and in a narration of a hottie that's a much bigger issue if we try to uproot the tradition to where you can actually try you can throw out anything that you don't feel like matches with that which you'd like to believe about the tradition so the thinkers that are out there that cast dispersions on hadith has a hole in the authenticity of hadith as a whole in the collection of the Sudan be haughty as a whole it's deeply problematic so their opinion would be rejected however the paper that we published as an alternate view again one paper out of four was through a minority view that employs proper will soon proper the proper derivatives of coming to an opinion it doesn't uproot the entire tradition to arrive at the conclusion so it's okay to entertain a discourse so long as it doesn't uproot the tradition as a whole but still recognizing that again the reason why the majority opinion is as it was the explicit opinions as it was because this never was an issue and so we have to kind of walk back to that and so I'll read just you know the conclusion that I think is very important what are one of the one of the the paragraphs it was in the conclusion of sister noted the unites paper what was the age of Aisha at marriage simply put old enough marrying near the onset of puberty is not possible or preferable for most of us in our Western cultural context and that's okay we are not obliged to marry young or to get our daughters married young we can hold our own culture and cultural and individual opinions about the age one ought to get married but we must stop pretending that this is a moral position rather than one that's based on circumstances and she says at the end of it portraying iishe as child is meant to portray the Prophet peace be upon him a certain light a light that attempts to fit on in shovelled allow on into a larger narrative of Muslim women as meek submissive and oppressed and Muslim men as oppressive abusive and unjust a narrative that is both malicious and dishonest the controversy around her age prevents us from discussing her legacy and contribution to Islam her life and marriage the Prophet peace be upon him her knowledge and her wisdom AAHA is so much more than the quote child bride the enemies of our beloved Prophet peace be upon him attempt to paint her as she was a saint a sage and a scholar can we please make that the legacy can we please make that legacy the bulk of our discourse around this amazing woman we ask a lot to be pleased with her and to join us with our mother in aisha radi allahu ta'ala and to join us with the Prophet peace be upon him and the prophets and the righteous in the highest level of gelatin for the dose we ask a lot to allow us to rise to a moral standard that has been set in the standard of the Prophet peace be upon him we ask Allah subhana WA Ta'ala to perfect our who look to perfect our characters and to allow us to not just love the Prophet peace be upon him but to emulate the Prophet peace be upon him in his worship and his character in the way that Aisha all of the Aloha did allah subhanaw taala be pleased with the family the companions of the prophet peace be upon him and join us with them Ilana I mean

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One hour of - now this is a very interesting subject matter that always brings up controversy, but that's not so - spends almost one hour not directly answering the question

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Does this help at all?

http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2019/11/was-aisha-really-only-nine.html

This a long list of references at the end.

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1. After this video thousands more "ending the debate" videos were produced FullMetalTheist even based himself on yaqeen's Aisha article by Prof Brown and Andalusian Project. Since then apostasy ahs increased and none have "ended the debate".
2. Suleiman is very slick and he starts by creating an atmosphere of adulation/adoration with the story of the woman who had doubts because of Aisha but later converted and even named her daughter after Aisha. Then he sets about creating a mental image of Aisha that is much older then she really was. Calls her a "woman" a "scholar" etc.. He uses all other tactics, tries to use the word Islamophobes a lot tries to talk about her as if she has modern aspects of puberty. That way she sounds more like a 15 year old than a 9 year old. etc.. Suleiman's supporters are happy. But does he convince anybody else that 9 year olds where "fir for intercourse" at the time? No. Does he convince anyone that somehow modern people are not able to fairly judge whether intercourse with a 9 year old is acceptable? No.

Is the concern really about Aisha? No she died 1400 year ago.

What is the concern about? The concern is about the fact that Islam sets an "age of Puberty" at the age of 9 for girls. from which age they can consent to marriage.

The concern is that Muslims still practice prepubescent marriage and intercourse because it is allowed in Islam. It may not be preferred or promoted, but it is legal.

How is prepubescent intercourse legal in Islam?

• Betrothal marriage of a young girl where the guardian contracts the nikkah on her behalf. This gives the girl Khiyar Al Bulugh i.e. option of puberty, the right to rescind the contract when she becomes an adult.
• When the minor girl is considered "ready for intercourse" she can legally be had intercourse with by her husband. Despite the fact that she is too young for consent. This can precede Option of Puberty.
• At the option of puberty the girl can rescind the marriage contract (if she can get permission to leave the house and afford a lawyer.).

All Suleiman's talk can not change the baiscs of Islamic Law where all major madhabs agree that betrothal is allowed and know of option of puberty.

Countries laws may prevent it happening a lot, but believers can feel entitled to still practice it.

​ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFCM4Jo4ToE&t=200s Niger. Muslim Shaikh promoting the idea that marrying at 8 or 9 is fine.

Nujood Ali from Yemen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmP66xGpjGo&t=116 first her father, then herself.

Nadya from Iraq The nine-year-old child forced into marriage in Iraq https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSFfjQ08t_k&t=16s

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Why follow a religion that clains the one moment it is perfect, but then needs national laws to prevent immoral abuse allowed in the religion.

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If we look at non-extremist organisations like the UN-organization GirlsNoBrides and the Assembly of Muslim Jurists in America we can see that they acknowledge that intercourse with a minor that is too young for consent is legal in Islam.

https://www.amjaonline.org/fatwa/en/78001/marrying-prepubescent-girls > conjugal relations are dependent upon her ability to handle that. Scholars like Imam Malik, Imam al-Shafi`i and Abu Hanifah have clearly stated that no woman is to be made to have sex unless she can endure it, and women differ in this according to their natural range of differences; it is not determined by a specific age. Once a girl has reached maturity, as we have mentioned, she may continue in this marriage or reject it.

clearly shows that intercourse can precede Option of Puberty.

So the minor girl has no consent to give or withhold and can be "made to have sex" and

https://www.girlsnotbrides.org/documents/867/IRW-Islamic-persepctive-on-CM.pdf

Dispelling myths: The issue of early betrothal In some communities it is normal for parents, particularly fathers, to betroth or ** marry their children while they are still minors, on the understanding that the marriage will be consummated at a later date**.

This practices occurs in different societies for various social and tribal reasons and is by no means an inherently ‘Islamic’ practice. However, Islam does not forbid this practice in principle but allows it on the condition that the marriage can be rejected or upheld by the male or female upon reaching puberty. This is because, as in any other marriage, until they reach comprehensive maturity they have no legal capacity to give their consent."

Clearly leaves open that the marriage can be consummated before puberty.

Do you want to believe in a religion where a man observes/assesses a minor girl visually to see if she is "ready for intercourse" and if she is found "ready for intercourse" she can be made to have sex" i.e. her husband can legally "perform intercourse on the girl". ?

btw. diyat (compensation) ruling probably exist in Sunni Islam too, but for Shias Khomeiny documented compensation rights for when "it goes wrong".​

https://archive.org/details/TahrirAlVasilah/0000-tahrir%20j4-nA4/page/n373/mode/2up?q=sexual

Problem # 8, if a husband husband forcibly performs sexual intercourse with his wife, resulting in her death, he shall be held liable for diyai payable from his property, 'the same Shall be Ihe rule if he hugs and presses her forcibly [resulting in her death], or the wife hugs the husband and presses him with force, or if a stranger man or woman performs such act, without the intention of killing the victim.

https://archive.org/details/TahrirAlVasilah/0000-tahrir%20j4-nA4/page/n415/mode/2up?q=sexual

Page -416- Problem # 4. In case of “ifda”', or 'ulruinque meat urn naturae in altera coalesce re faciens impetu comgressus that is causing the urinal and menstrual passages to become one, there shall be the liability for her full diyat. The same shah be the diyat in causing the passage of menses and feces to become one in the same way; without there being difference in the criminal is a stranger or the husband, except in one case, and that is when it is perpetrated by the husband by performing sexual intercourse [with the wife) after her attaining adulthood, but if perpetrated before her attaining adulthood, he shall be liable to her diyat Together with her dower.