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family. This week we are wrapping up our dysFUNCTIONal series with an interview
between Pastor J and special guests Brian and Jennea Welch. Brian Welch is
the guitarist and co-founder of the rock metal band Korn and he just released a
new documentary called Loud Krazy Love which gives it inside looked into his
life and his faith and how that has impacted his identity as a father. Stay
tuned for this powerful interview you won't want to miss. Thanks again for
joining us today. Let's get ready for Real Life Online. She's cute huh. I have plenty of memories from when my dad was in Korn. I love you daddy. Peek-A-Boo. It changed my perspective on how I saw
like love. I'm just scared that I was gonna screw up the kid like I was
screwing up myself. I had an addiction to meth, methamphetamine. All the other kids had
their mom and dad come to mothers day or fathers day.
I couldn't stop being bad to my body. I couldn't stop these addictions. I had
become an animal. I just looked up and I just said Father, I can't pray when I'm on
drugs. Do anything you want to my life. How do I pay a phone bill? How can you change so suddenly? How do I know this is real? I used to be afraid. He's like Jennea I'm quiting Korn. I'm going to stay home and I'm like is that even allowed? I was devastated.
God's telling me to do this and God's telling me and I'm like. That was an act of love
for himself and his daughter. But I immediately started making bad choices.
He'd been physical, punching holes and walls.
She just couldn't connect with anybody. I assumed things were gonna be different.
People offered her drugs and like dangit. I got physical. I flipped tables. I can't
control my rage. I'm stressed out. I just wanted someone to realize I'm hurting.
She says I cut myself because of you. And I said I hate you. I gave up everything
for you. (Music) Everybody that doesn't live their life
like this, that's who's crazy. (Music) Guys would you please help me welcome our friends
Brian and Jennea Welch to Real Life. (Applause) Thanks yall! (Applause) I swear the movie has a happy ending. I
promise. Promise. I know it's pretty intense that trailer but life is good.
Well it's got to have sort of a happy ending. You're here right? Oh yeah. Well
let's, let's talk. First of all welcome. Thank you guys for coming.
Super good to have you here. Thanks for having us. We're so honored to be here and Real Life is like family to me and yeah. Me too! (Applause) So we're actually wrapping up a series called
dysFUNCTIONal so welcome. (Laughter) Did you start it off with
your family? (Laughter) And ended with yours. That's right okay
but. Sheesh. So here's what's cool to me though because we're actually finishing
up and it was sort of like okay I think that God can bring function into our
dysfunction. It's part of the amazing thing that he does. You guys have an incredible
story and a movie about it but also next weekend we're starting a series called
Miracles and how nothing is impossible and God shows up in our lives. So we can
either say that you guys are ending the dysFUNCTIONal series or you're kicking
off the Miracle series. It works either way right. It's kind of a combination. I think
it is. I'm proud to be dysfunctional because God comes in and shows off his
miracles in dysfunction. Boom! (Applause) Alright let's pray. No, so talk to me about the movie. So
Loud Krazy Love. You guys put yourselves completely out there for the entire
world and how's God using that movie? It's incredible. Just recently I heard of
one of the directors that directed the movie went and past flyers out in Dallas
for the theater showing there and he went to a rock concert and there were
some people out there and he passed out a flyer to the big old guy and the guy
looked at it and said can I talk to you for five minutes somewhere private and
he said no but you can talk to me for two minutes right here and the guy
proceeded to break down and he was crying and he said he's thinking about
ending his life. He made it a point to say I'm not a Korn fan but,
but I just thought about what if I could change my life like that guys
and I'm having a hard time trying to figure out why you're passing, how you're
passing this flyer out to me right when I'm thinking about this morning so that
was really cool. The movie played all over Australia and this girl from Event
Cinemas there put it in over 40 theaters. I went on a tour there. She couldn't go.
She was starting college and she gotten like really rocked by God. Her name is
Alison. She's my friend now and it's really cool what God's doing. Super cool. (Applause) And then Jennea, so how about
you? Are you hearing from I mean are young people responding to the fact
because you put yourself out there in a very vulnerable way. Sure did. It definitely took a
lot of strength but yeah we've seen lots of parents and families just learn
skills and gain a lot of things from it and the boarding school that I went to,
Awakening Youth, they've get been getting calls off the chain. So it's been awesome. Some people are
getting help? Absolutely. They're coming for it. That's always a good thing. Remember when me and you went to Fox News and I did what was it?
Remember the show? Yes, yeah but I don't remember the name but yes. Shannon. Shannon. Shannon. Shannon from Fox
News. Yeah we were on there. I think she liked you but. She's married.
Oh well, then she didn't like you. (Laughter) She's really cool. Actually I saw her on Mike Huckabee.
We went on the Mike Huckabee show like a week ago. Two weeks ago and Mike
Huckabee played a Korn song with me. It was so sick. He plays bass. He was like. He was awesome. Shannon was there.
I got to talk to her all right. I'm having a hard time picturing that so I
think we're gonna have to move on but Mike Huckabee playing Korn. But remember that night that we were
there and awakening got like so many calls that next day and everything and
so yeah it's a lot of stuffs happening. God's using it. Well and to get right
with God you have to get real with God. You have to like say I need help right?
Isn't that sort of the first step? So I say that every day basically. Lord I'm a
mess. I need help right now and all day today
and then the next day I'll be right here asking for it again so see you. But
he loves that uh and I think when we're prideful and self-reliant and we think
we've got it all figured out we really can't get help
but in our desperate mess God comes to us and that's what I loved about the
movie. Had an allergic reaction to it so I can't watch it again because every it
just, I swelled up here. I don't know if you've ever seen a movie that did that (Laughter)
and uh but it got me and it particularly I saw God breaking down
your walls and you were sharing and you know you're crying and you know when
people cry and then you cry too so I really didn't cry. It's pretty rough. It
is but that was a powerful scene but God penetrating those walls and digging
stuff out. Talk about that a little bit. Um I mean, I don't know I feel like I
mean I've been through like a, like a good amount of childhood trauma you know.
Like whatever. Like mom leaving and whatever and so I think talking about it,
we spent in the interview during in the documentary you'll see when you see
the movie I was 15 years old and I was in the middle of my, my treatment my
program and just like feeling everything and really when, when I went through that
interview that's when the deep healing started because I was able to address
those things and so it was very hard but the only reason I'm sharing it is so
other people can learn and grow and get skills. Amen. That's and I think sometimes
that's the part of our story we have to get over. It's not about us.
You know I've heard you say that. You know it's not about me. I've got to put
myself out there so other people can see Christ in me. Okay
so talk about a little bit Jennea if you don't mind what it was like growing up
as a rock stars daughter. Was that just, that had to be perfect right? Oh gosh. I
feel like people who look at celebrities and the people in the industry and think
it's so fun and they get to do all these things and whatever and it's just like,
it's just the polar opposite. Like you're isolated. You can't trust anyone because
all they want is they just want stuff from you and it's just
very hard to trust people and so growing up in that like my mom was out of the
picture and I was three and I went on the road with him and he would go to her
and I slept on the bus and yeah it was it was fun. Like they took they made sure
to have like give me a normal I guess go to the playground and hang out whatever
but I don't know some like parties and stuff. Some things like I saw things that
I shouldn't have or girls in the crowd or whatever and it was just it just
opened me up to a lot of like sexualization I would say as a young age and
it was you know it wasn't a place for a kid. My bad. (Laughter) He did like the absolute best that he could to make sure that I was good but some things it was just the life. We were just wild animals out on the
road and everything and and then she was born and so the first five years of her
life I was struggling with this guy that wanted to be a wild animal and a great
dad and so by the time see her she hit like five or six years old she was
coming out on the road with us but when she was a little bit before six years
old that's when I left the band and went straight into like Jesus fanatic you
know so she's got. You got the best of both worlds. Yeah right. The worst of both
worlds. How many parents just need to say what Brian said? My bad! (Laughter) Look maybe for
Father's Day just gather your kids together and be like "My bad." But I feel like there's tension there because we do try and we try the best we
can but it's not enough. I don't know that any dad feels like man I just
nailed it. I did everything right. I provided perfectly. I was the spiritual
leader. I walked into that home and they were like there's Jesus. He's in that man
right there. Like I mean just going to his house and everything I thought I
would see that but I saw the like the opposite. (Laughter) I mean...oh my gosh. You know so he's, he's a failure like all of us (Laughter). But I love what you said seriously though, I love
what he said like he keeps... Your a bigger failure. Just kidding (Laughter) Ok, I'm a bigger failure. I'm totally kidding. But uh just about you saying
like we're just kids that God, how'd you say it? Oh yeah like that's
what having this understanding of our parents cuz we look at our parents we
think they're perfect. We think they're awesome and then they let us down. We see
that they're human at some point and we're like oh oh but if you can just,
kids right now, kids of all ages, no matter how old you are if you can just
learn to look at your parents as kids who are wrinkly. (Laughter) Right. They're just wrinkly
kids like they just are children who got old.
Yeah and they still have their own issues they're working out. Now they have
all this pressure added to them but they were also hurt and people have done
things to them and they're trying to figure stuff out and maybe life wasn't
good and they're doing the best they can and so they just got older but also had
a bunch of pressure added to them and if we can just look at our our parents as
children. I love it because it's so true. We just learn like I'm still that kid
that make mistakes all the time but I just learned like adult things to do you
know. Like you know the banking and the investing or whatever and traveling and
you know and all that stuff but emotionally and everything I fail a lot
and and I make mistakes. So I mean that's all of us here right? We can agree
together compared to God we're definitely like kids. (Applause) That's why in the
Bible he calls us children a lot. You know it's like we're children of God? Why
are you calling a grown man or grown woman a child of God? Because compared to
him that's what we are. And he's our perfect, that's right.
That's so good and that Jesus chose to reveal God as a dad. As our Heavenly
Father. Let's talk a little bit about okay so you grow up in the dysfunction
of rock and roll but then I would say that you also had a little trauma from
radical conversion. Was there anything I mean was that a little bit wild? Your dad
goes from cuz you're pretty extreme so I guess if you're gonna do anything it's
gonna be like woo hoo! I'm gonna get baptized in the Jordan. Woo hoo! That's what it was.
It's like you know the heart was right though and then sorry. I don't want to interrupt
if he was asking you but I was like, I was to me I had good motives because it
was like I'm gonna go 100% in the flesh in the drugs before. I did it all 100%.
Rock and roll, drugs. All that stuff and then I'm like so Jesus is gonna get like
10%? Oh Jesus take my drugs away and then and then I'm just gonna be like you know
complacent or whatever. No I'm gonna go a hundred percent for Christ and I still
do to this day but I got a little bit nuts with it at first and unfortunately
she saw and experienced some of the like just fanaticism of religion. Let's talk a little bit about that cuz you're a young Christian and you're just trying to find your way and go all-in
but like because I think a lot of children grow up in homes that are
dysfunctional in the one end but then also may be spiritually dysfunctional
and so just I know you could share a little bit about that. Been through it all man.
Yeah I've definitely seen both sides um. I was raised being like I guess like
rock stars daughter or whatever and then also like a pastor's kid. So it was just I saw the
pros and cons of both sides and so when when he found God it was pretty radical
and like we like moved out of town and moved to Phoenix Arizona and I was just
like 7 so. Is that where you move when you want to get right with God? Is it Phoenix?
(Laughter) Yeah, you go to the desert. That's the place. That makes sense. Yes you go right to the desert. That's
what Paul did. That's biblical. It's what Jesus did you know before his public ministry
okay. There you go some of you were like moved to desert step 1. (Laughter) Got it. Yes so I
was just a kid. When you're that little you kind of just go with it and you just
take it all in because it's the first time you're experiencing things and so
yeah I mean I saw he was going through a lot of healing. Even just like as a kid
like self hate, those things that were rooted and then also I mean I assume
withdrawals and whatever and just dealing with personal things and working
them out with him and God. He just happened to have a kid like watching TV
in the next room you know and so it would, he would get
angry and whatever and just kind of like deal with you know deal with it. Then I
would be okay. I'm taking her to rock concerts. She's seen all this stuff you
know. I'm trying to keep her away from the adult stuff but somethings slipped
through the cracks. Then I find Jesus. I leave the band and I'm like you can't
watch that show because there's a witch on that even though it's Disney show. But
I'm like and then I'm the extreme the other way and so the poor kid is trying
to like you know figure it out and I you know I meant, I meant well but in my mind
then it was like I'm gonna keep all evil away from us because I got away from all
the bad stuff and so oh evil's gonna try to sneak through a Disney show with a
witch you know (Laughter) you know what I'm saying? No...I dunno what you're saying. (Laughter)
I was paranoid man. I was paranoid and I know a lot some of you people have been in church
for decades and did the same thing you know it's just like get a little crazy
with it and it's like come on. Just like you get to reality here you know. Well
sometimes it's the spirit of religion rather than a relationship with Christ.
Ooo right. That's it. Mic drop. (Applause) And so instead of
growing in a real relationship with Christ we get this spirit of religion
and we build lots of walls rather than bridges you know to the world and to go
and make disciples it's kind of like no I'm just gonna stay here and everything
stay out and and maybe we need that for a season sometimes to protect
ourselves but here's what I think sometimes happen and this is what I need
for you to speak to Jennea is that maybe we grow up in a home where our parents
are Christian and we go to church but then we also see things that don't
necessarily measure up to the life or the Word of God and I think that can
cause resentment. Right kids will see like oh you're supposed to be this
Christian but you have anger issues and I mean you saw your dad struggling in
that season. Yeah, him struggling and then also I mean I guess he he got
involved with some Christian partners, some business partners and they ended up
being phony and then like having him sign all this stuff and then they dipped
out and it was just I was just watching this all unfolded and like 11 years old
when it when he has to file for bankruptcy and I'm like okay. So
we left our family and our friends to move to the desert to follow God and
then all of this pretty horrible things are happening. Like, so this is God? This
is what God led us to? Like what's that? This is rough. Like I don't really know if
I want any part of this. You know at the same time in the in the midst of it I'm
like probably given or too much information.
You know she's hearing me on the phone like what do you mean? She did say she was 11.
Yeah. Yeah a lot of kids at 11 are watching Care Bears. Yeah. Well you know
what? Maybe not Care Bears. I don't know. Dora? (Laughter) No not Dora. I forget. Spongebob! So good. A little edgy. You know what's an interesting dynamic between like father-daughter is that the
mom isn't there. Like the wife role isn't there so in some circumstances I had to
step up in that so he could, there was no one else he could confine in and
confide in you know what I mean and so sometimes he would, I feel like a lot of
like single parents and kids feel like that. But at the same time in my mind I'm
like trying to teach her spiritual things too so she's like are we going to be okay? I'm on the
phone going what do you mean we're gonna lose our house? Daddy we're gonna be okay?
I'm like you know showing her God's gonna provide for us. Don't worry you know. He
promises and meanwhile I'm like believing it but fearful too at the same
time cuz I'm watching my house go away but you know so a lot of things
like when in the movie I talked about there was a time where I lost everything
and we played a game about looking for quarters. I go you go into your room and
look for quarters in your drawers and I'll go in the kitchen, into my bedroom
and whoever has the most quarters wins and that was gonna buy her lunch that
week. That's real. I had family I could call but I was too you know, I
was embarrassed and so but so I was teaching her God's gonna show us and
then sure enough that week I got a check. A big check that I didn't, it wasn't
coming. It wasn't expected. Manager found some money that was mine that was tied
up so she got too much info at too young of an age but you know like I said I'm a
failure a lot but I try my best. I'm a lot better now. That was years ago. Yeah, you did you did the absolute best. Thank you! I love you. (Applause) I love it! Part of the reason you're here is
because God has done some miracles. He's restored you and your relationship is
precious and you guys travel together and you go like vacation together and
I've seen you guys a lot and I think there's probably been moments where
you've had to just, Gods had to help you forgive and make peace and I see a lot
of people not doing that. Like they hold their parents in contempt because they
did something wrong and then it's just they can't move past that and as a young
adult you're 21 right? 21 July 6. Boom. It's coming. (Applause) All right so yeah. So as a
young adult how did you, as a young person make peace with some of the
things that happened in your past and forgive your dad or to show grace? It
took a lot of maturity honestly. I mean it's it's some people don't forgive their
parents until they're way older but for me it was learning selflessness and also
a lot of counseling. I went through years of just counseling in my program and
just learning why I felt certain ways and understanding the situation throughout
my ages I guess. When I was 15, 16 I didn't quite get it but 17, 18 I was like oh I'm
almost an adult. Oh he was that old when that happened. Oh okay. He was just, he was
so young. He didn't know any better you know and so I think it took a long
process and I think forgiveness comes in layers really. But the number one thing
for me was knowing that my mom and my dad did the absolute best that they
could. You know I mean that what they were capable of they did the absolute
best they could and that was you know that was enough and that their
mistakes don't define me as a human being you know. (Applause) I make my own path and God helps. Yes! I think you know no one has a child
and holds the baby and looks at them and feels like you know I'll try, I'll give
them you know I'll try. You know it's like our desire is to be the best
parents even like the most flawed people hold there baby and like they want to give them the world and so just think about
that with your parents you know. It's just we're just broken man and and some
people are way more broken than others and she, she even says like she forgave
her mom. Her mom left her at an early age but she's like, she did her best she
could - but she's just too broken to - she just didn't get it healed and like
some people do you know and so that's a big step just knowing that people are
broken and and knowing that their desire was to be like the best parent they
could. Showing grace to parents is just a big thing. Again just look at your
parents and go big kids. Wrinkly kid trying you know and just love them and
and accept because also while they had a part to play and getting you where you
are God is the one who's gonna get you where you're gonna go (Applause) and he takes us
where we are meets us there and says let's go from here
because the story of all of our lives is His grace and it's for his glory so okay.
I want to talk a little bit because you're so vulnerable in the movie which
I know had to be hard but self-hate, self-harm. Like there was a lot of that
and that's so prevalent in this generation and I feel like God's given
you a voice and a courage to speak to it. Yeah that's honestly my number one
passion is just young people and teenagers dealing with depression,
suicidal thoughts, self-harm. When I was I'd say when I hit middle school all of
the things I went through as a kid I started to feel them instead of just
experiencing them as a little kid. I started to realize that they hurt and so
um I don't know I met some girls in my school who liked self-harm. They would
like cut with like razors or like burn themselves with lighters or whatever
just, just I don't know just to feel something you know. That they didn't have
the voice to share that they were hurting so that was a way to say that
they were hurting and so I kind of thought that was like edgy and cool and
like I didn't know how to face myself either and so and I noticed that those
girls got a lot more attention than the kids who were like good and did good in
school and we're doing okay so I just I don't know I thought that was a way that
I could be like hey I'm hurting. Like look at me.
Like I said I'm hurting and so yeah it's very prevalent and with both parents at work
and just like the early child development that just isn't prevalent
when the kids are working it's or when, sorry when their parents are working,
it's just that's and with social media it's just very hard. So what would
you say to kids who are dealing with that and their emotions are finally
catching up to their experiences and they don't know how to handle it? Well
when you're a teenager feelings are so overwhelming you guys know it's just so
yeah just overwhelming. I would just say that you're worth fighting for. I would
say that yeah, you add substance and beauty to the world and you don't
have to take extreme measures to tell people that you need help. You know what
I mean? There are healthy ways to receive help and love yourself and learn
to receive joy and true. So reach out though. Let somebody know right? Yeah.
I think the number one from me that helped me was yeah just reaching out and
talking about it to people who really care about you and family isn't always
blood deep you know and so reaching out to people who just care about you.
Whether it's a friend or an aunt or your mom and dad. Just saying that you're
hurting and asking for help and sometimes when you don't want to get up
in the morning look for a passion. You know like and if you can't find a
passion within yourself follow someone who does. Like even Pastor Justin. Like he
has a passion for ministry and people and the church and so follow him until
you find your own. (Applause) I just want to add that the easiest thing to do like
sometimes what looks easier is to go medicate you know teenagers get into the
wrong stuff and they just you know follow the crowd and everything.
Something needs to rise up in these kids in this generation to like do something
that's maybe harder which is to work on your stuff so that when you are out of
school which will be a blink of an eye. Time goes by so fast you'll be ahead of
the game because you're talking, you're communicating your emotions. You're
getting in and you're, you're seeing a counselor or following someone
like Justin... well maybe not Justin but (Laughter) someone else that good in this church
but but uh but you know what I'm saying just get ahead of the game kids. Like,
like don't go and fall in the traps and self-medicate and do all that stuff. Talk
about your issues so that you'll be ahead of the game. When you graduate
you're not gonna be emotionally stunted growth you know. You're gonna be ahead of
the game and more advanced and your future will be brighter. So that's just
my. God has plans for you for sure. Yes. Yes.
Okay so well I just think about like when Jesus heals us right, you know he
would cast out demons and it's always loud and messy. The demons would shriek
as they leave and so sometimes we experience this mess right like the
demons would, would shriek. It's messy. It's loud and that happens and that was
you're like well loud crazy love right and and so but we're in process with God
and we're never really there but we're trying but what are some of these
spiritual disciplines? The miracles always there's God's part but then
there's our part. What are some of the things that you feel like you had to do
to experience God's power and his miraculous love in your life? The good
thing for me is like I was, I had a hunger for it.
Like I said I felt that a love from another dimension.
I felt Christ's love and I was like wait. I want that. I don't want to chase a high
that is making me feel like I want to kill myself.
You know the alcohol that I wake up sick every day. I want this feeling that I
felt when I prayed to God and it wasn't instant. It took like a couple weeks or
whatever but I felt this you know that the love of God it says is poured out by
the Spirit into our hearts. I felt that and I was instantly addicted and so my
disciplines were like you know I walked away from the band. I wanted to be a good
father. I went to church and I was like okay
cool. Yeah. Church is cool on Sunday. Now what are we doing Monday?
What? They're closed? Okay I learned to worship God by myself and I listened to
messages by myself and I I devoured the Bible. Not, you know I just, you got to
learn the word. That word has to get in you and like the New Testament is so
important and I read it over and over again until you know God, it says God, His
eyes roam around the earth looking for a heart that's completely his and once you
don't quit, when he sees like a person that does not quit, he starts to unveil
mysteries that are so like ancient and so like wonderful that it's there's
nothing like it on the planet and so that's what that's what I did. That's a long
answer but that was my spiritual discipline was just going after
everything that he had to offer. Nice. (Applause) Have you got anything that's helped you get right
with God? Get closer to God? It's I think that that phrase is so funny because I
feel kids who have been raised in church like a lot of it becomes stale and
watered down in your heart you know and so it's like get right with God. It's
like when you're when you're like a pastor's kid it's like oh like what? Like
that's my whole life and so but I think getting right with God means getting
real with him you know and like asking questions and almost inviting, yeah
inviting him in and he was so gracious to me that he put me in a place, in the
program but a place where I had his or yeah, I had his fully, undivided
attention you know because I I didn't have my phone and I was with almost like
a like a monastery type thing and so yeah he just he was so kind. Do you think that's
important like for people to be able to get alone and hear from God and cut
themselves off a little bit from the noise? Hundred percent that it saved my
life honestly and and he in doing that he gave me a hunger for him you know.
Instead of he tried everything and blah, blah, blah. Not blah, blah, blah...sorry. He
tried everything and he and he searched for it. I, he brought that
hunger to me again so we could have a mutual relationship. Love it. And she's 20
years old so she's still going, she's still figuring it out you know just like
I'm I am in my age but she's 20 you know and she's so far along. I'm really proud
of you. Thanks. Yeah. (Applause) Yep what a good Father's Day
message. Speaking of age you got a birthday this week. Yup. 49. Big 4 -9.
(Applause) Yeah and then our new band wrinkly kids, we're gonna release an album (Laughter) next month.
Band name. Called it. No, I just did. No, you didn't call it. Wrinkly Kids.
We are the wrinkly kids. That's what every, every time I have a band name and you
have to say we are the you know like you're in front of the crowd and nobody
wants to come to our shows. I don't understand. I think that is one of the
themes though for this Father's Day is just that hey we're all kids that got
older and as we get older though we don't have to get, I mean as we get older
we can get closer to God because outwardly we're wasting away the Bible
says but inwardly we are being renewed day by day or be made young. Talk to me.
Yeah and at one translation yeah yeah. It's just like you can translate that.
It's like you're getting, I'm getting younger and younger that you know as my
outward body is wasting away. That's kind of sad but but you know what I'm saying.
Renewed day by day. Renewed. I'm getting renewed and so I have it I have like a
childlike joy that just won't go away. Yeah. It doesn't go away. You know a lot
of people that don't have this can they'll get older and they get more
grumpy and they get "Oh, did you see what Trump did today?" You know what I'm saying? It's like
what's what's the point of that? You argue, you argue about politics and then
you and then you're getting ready to probably go pass away in the next you
know a couple decades or something. It's like I want to find joy man. I don't want
to fight. I want this joy that's eternal you know what I'm saying? (Applause) Say that. What
would you say as we kind of wind down just speaking to somebody maybe who's on
the other side of the hope that you found in Christ because he's restored
your life. He's restored your relationship. He's using you
also so you're actually being used by God to change other people's lives but
there are people who are on the side of this story where you were and and what
would you say to them? You know they're stuck in their dysfunction or their pain
or their addiction. I mean I would just say like I said before like you you're
worth fighting for. Don't give up on yourself and your relationships you know
and even if you have to cut unhealthy people off God will use every person's,
every person's mistakes that they've caused you pain, he will turn, he will
heal you and turn them around so you will learn and be able to help other
people. (Applause) That's good. Yep. And not trying to plug the movie but check the movie out.
It comes out this Tuesday actually and watch our story man.
It's good. It's available on Amazon, iTunes and all that and DVD but watch
our story because it is proof that no matter how bad of a place you're in it's
not where you're gonna stay. It's not where you're gonna stay. God is a God who
resurrects from the dead. Jesus is the proof of that and now he resurrects
things in our lives to show that he's real and active and alive and still
someone that raises from the dead and so he's raised our life from the dead, he's
gonna raise your bad circumstances and bring life to them and so yeah never
give up. (Applause) Preach. That's what I
always felt like my story, I'm a poster child for grace.
You know like I'm that one of those people that God just said hey watch this.
Look at that guy. He's a mess but I'm gonna stick him on
my billboard. So I'm a grace poster child. Like, like if God can change me and then
I looked over on my billboard and yours is up a little higher. (Laughter) Yeah it's like
you're you guys are your poster children for grace.
Oh God loves failures man. He's like he loves failure. He's like just watch what
I can do with this failure you know and it's like he's like, he's not a failure
to me because (Applause) That's, that's hot. I love that so much. God loves failures because
a lot of times we're trying to be good and we're trying to be perfect to get
ourselves in a position where we feel worthy of God's
love and he finds us and he runs to us while we're still a long way off and he
carries us home and and that's the love of the Father that Jesus tells us in
that in the parable and and that while we were still sinners Christ died for us
and so I love that the heart that you guys have and I love the story that
you're willing to share because it's changing lives and so thank you so much.
Will you guys just show some love and support for Brian and Jennea! (Applause) Thank you Real Life! Thank you so much. (Applause) Lot of truth. A lot of good stuff and you
can just stay standing because I'm gonna pray for us and then I'm gonna give us
an opportunity to just spend a couple minutes in worship just singing to the
Lord and thanking him for what he's done but let's just talk to God right now.
Thank you God for who you are and for what you've done. I want to thank you
that you sent your one and only Son because you so loved us that if we
believe and put our faith in Jesus we don't have to just die but we'll have
everlasting life in him. Thank you God for this promise, for this truth, for this
reality as its unfolding in so many of our lives right now and for those who
are still just a step away from you God I pray that you would give them the
courage to take that step to draw near to you because you want to draw near to
them and in this moment just be glorified as our perfect dad who loves
us. We just want to sing to you and thank you for your love in Jesus name, Amen. What an awesome interview between pastor Justin and Brian and Jannea Welch. If
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