Dune 3 aka Dune Messiah BREAKDOWN - Dune Part 2 Spoilers, Explained

so you've seen Dune part two and you're craving more spice well luckily for you Deni VN has already confirm that he's almost done with the script for Dune 3 uh well actually it will be called Dune Messiah because technically it'll be Dune 2 so confusing how are we going to do that in the metadata for that movie because it will be the third Dune film but it's the second book ah I think they should just keep calling it Parts quite frankly what do you think they should do because it will be very confusing with the metadata uh but really also in addition to having to figure that out and a couple of other things which we're going to discuss uh VNV uh really needs some sweet sweet box office for this second film to get the go-ahead from Warner Brothers but with Dune part 2's box office prospects looking pretty Rosy let's talk about uh what's in store for Dune messia which is again the second book in the series vov decided to split the first book in half into the first two movies uh so I I I'm really curious as to what you would call it I mean it should be called Dune three but then some people are going to be like oh excuse me I mean I guess then I'll just keep going with the parts it's part three but it would be the second book all right now I'm going to include some slight spoilers here but nothing that you would not see in the trailers for June 3 so you would know that these elements were being added to the film however on that note I'm not going to include anything that would be considered a surprise withheld for the film itself I don't want to ruin that experience for you and I would hope that in the comments those of you who are fans of the do novels will not ruin it for anyone either all right so right away Messiah takes place 12 years after Dune like if Ana Taylor Joy is going to actually play Paul's sister Aaliyah a lot of time will have passed as she wasn't even born in Dune part two now obviously she's no ordinary baby as she has been exposed to the Water of Life so maybe she ages up a little faster than normal maybe maybe she's got that going for still does Den n do a house of the Dragon work for them quite well and cast diff well not they didn't recast everybody uh you know but different actors how do you how do you handle having that much older versions of Paul chny and Princess uh irin or uan I know that some of you are like well just maybe don't have 12 years pass but then I I think Dune fans from what I can see are purists and so I don't know how you're going to feel about maybe making it less time but that's that's our first uh little little little roadblock uh what would you what would you like to see happen like on the one hand I think it would really do a it would really help show the passage of time with older actors and I thought that was very effective in House of the Dragon but also after two movies Timothy Shalom and Zena they are the Dune franchise to the general public uh and also Florence Pew barely got started are we really going to swap her out already I guess I guess they can just keep everybody and chalk up Ana Taylor Joy walking in and saying hey I'm your sister right uh it was just the Water of Life be like well that Water of Life sure is crazy look what it look what it did to look what it did to your sister Paul it made her the same age as the rest of us but you know who's coming back who has a very good reason an in story reason for looking exactly the same no facial hair Jason Mamoa that's right he really he really is seems like a different person when he shaves you know not only visually but with his acting in in Dune part one you know I was so grateful that Austin Butler wasn't Elvis in Dune part two and likewise I was so grateful that Jason Mamoa wasn't Jason Mamoa in Dune part one but he has never he has never become someone else before or after he's not a he's not a very serious guy uh that's cool I love that Jason mimoa loves himself so much and he's like you know what this film or television show needs more Jason mimoa but what Dune needs is the very specific and different Duncan Idaho uh and again maybe it's just the power of the shave that's all he has to do all right but he will return as Duncan Idaho but wait a minute wasn't Duncan Idaho killed in a very moving sequence by the way I thought that was really well done but he'll be back as a clone here called a goola a term coined by Dune that's right you might have heard the term goola before but they were referencing Dune now Dune uh dune's goas I think has uh it seems is influenced two other really big properties Avatar James Cameron's Avatar and then also James Cameron must be so ticked off that Netflix brought back Avatar in a major way he's like ah brand confusion and it's like they were here first uh they were right yeah I think they were all right so anyway and also X-Men all right so golas can even have the memories of the original and that reminds me of Avatar too where Steven Lang's Avatar had the memories of the human version of him that was killed off so even though they were technically two separate organic beings because of the memory transfer and the fact that you know there was some DNA obviously because they kind of looked a little bit the same right uh it was like a a seamless transition almost but you know so like spiritually it was seamless you know or mentally even though uh science physically it was it was not it was two very divided individuals so I do wonder if James Cameron got that from Dune and then later on in the Dune novels the group that created golas uses them to become immortal as they keep making clones of themselves as they wear out but all the time are able to retain all those memories eventually hundreds of years of memories but that reminds me of what they did with the X-Men ah Jonathan Hickman is so type the type of guy who would reference Dune so I wouldn't be surprised if he got that from Dune as well so that that's really interesting I not only is it a good story but you get to see how these different uh stories are influencing each other ah so fun and with the goas uh they comes a new group the group that created the goas they're called the I want to make sure I I get this right the Bena benett uh beneta basically a Tony Stark Dr hamlock Borg fever dream that takes technology to the extreme inventing goas and so much more and oh know I wonder if Dave filon and the Star Wars crew are also influenced by Dune Ah that's really interesting all right and perhap I mean Star Wars obviously isn't is inspired by Dune in many ways but would seem maybe even down to cloning and that makes the cloning uh the direction that Star Wars is going in with cloning so aggressively make a little more sense because it's part of their omage Heritage I guess you could say right uh and perhaps because uh the benl Val oh it's not so hard to say once you get the hang of it uh value science Above All Else they're not big physical specimens they're instead described in the books as short dwarf-like creatures with gray skin hair and eyes although in some of the artist renderings I've seen in the for Comics Etc and fan art for Dune they are not dwarves but still call your agent Peter Dinklage because there is a juicy role in Dune Messiah uh bead and i' be like Peter dingl I think that has got your name all over it uh as for other new characters that will need to be cast there's uh who bahas originally serves I think I'm I think I'm not pronouncing that one right but uh O oam is a from an elite soldier who is loyal to Paul but then here's the big one this is the big new role to cast edric and look at this guy while Fed rala was a physical foe to Paul a trates Eric will be a mental one because edric also has abilities of the mind this is going to be a great voiceover opportunity and maybe have a motion capture element as well so does Den vnu go for the master with Andy Circus or maybe try someone else there's bened at Cumberbatch who has a ton of experience with voice over work combined with motion capture and I think he'd be a very good fit with the Dune cast although so would Andy Circus I do wonder how this character will be brought to life you could do practical makeup like with Stalin Skarsgard is the baron so there are a couple of choices there uh I do kind of like I do like I kind of like Benny C for that part all right but what what is Den vnu going to do about uh Dune messiah's lack of action oh this is a big problem there are no especially after the very action intense Dune part two uh some of you were like that wasn't a lot of action but it was a lot more action than Dune one I feel Dune 2 had a lot of action do you I thought that it did but there are no great battles in Messiah uh there's no one-on-one fights instead it's a game of chess you've got royal Intrigue power plays a race to produce an air from chny or princess ulon and Mind Games how do you switch from Lord of the Rings to succession and sure people love succession they're both incredibly beloved uh properties that have won a ton of awards but succession is an HBO drama whereas Lord of the Rings was a big screen Blockbuster they have different expectations so how do you shift between the two for one property that's a you know should dude Messiah maybe be a series but how could you do that you know I just don't I I don't see them doing that but if it all works out if Den vuv can pull it off right there's even more to do with the Next Generation uh Children of Dune that that's a that's a crazy story that gets even weirder but V vov has said he'll he'll be done with Dune after the third film after Dune Messiah but when you jump to the Next Generation that's the perfect reason to bring in a new director as well uh fascinatingly Children of Dune was already adapted as a miniseries speaking back when miniseries where you you know not what they are today but that was back in 2003 and as you can see starring Mr James McAvoy ah the history the history things get as I said things get even crazier and weirder in the world of Dune as the story progresses but can we get that far I think honestly I think we'll get to Dune Messiah but I'm the but then you know Children of Dune does have a considerable amount of action uh so there I think it's weird you have to get through this quieter chapter to get to the the more explosive storytelling so it's it's really it's going to take some real finesse and maybe maybe add a little bit of action now that's so that's the big question what do you want to see going forward from Dune if you're a fan of the books or if you're new to the story you just experienced them through the movies how do you think they can solve this problem of the lack of action and also you know the the age of the actors but the lack of action to me is the really biggest the biggest sticking point uh cuz as I said I think the d The Dunes fans the hardcore fans from the books you guys are purists so how are you going to feel if they add action I mean wouldn't you be okay with it if it me kept keeping the franchise going all right share your thoughts I mean the only thing I can think of is that maybe you shorten Messiah and you bring in part of Children of Dune maybe that's what you do I think that might be I that might be a good idea let's see what what well ven vov is almost done with the script so let's see what he decided all right share those thoughts down below subscribe today and of course as always you can check out some more videos right now [Music] he

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Length: 11min 41sec (701 seconds)

Published: Fri Mar 01 2024