Don "Magic" Juan on His Pimping Career, 24 Kids, God Telling Him to Retire (Full Interview)

all right here we go the Bishop Don magic wand a man is such an honor and a pleasure check to be back on yo show band I want to tell you this show grown by leaps and bounds so I feel honored and be able to share my story absolutely man and we've known each other for man must have been close to 10 years or a little bit more I mean you know like time bees flying man and you know like we would mean like what first in Miami and you know and you know always out in LA and we're in Hollywood you're not I mean I stopped by a show you know there's some of your guests that we would hang out and smoke afterwards all the Fellowship's been great absolutely it's an honor to be able to you know express myself oh I mean you look great you look thinner and I remember the last time healthy skin is looking you know well well you know one thing I learned though you know as in old age that we don't recognize in young age that we must take care of self at a younger stage to make the older stage a little bit more better and we don't recognize that into the last minute so me as one you know I never been into the head and never tell anybody to do what you want to do that to my moto but you know at this stage I realize that health is really well today and I recommend all men 45 and over to get tested for prostate cancer you know I am a survivor prostate counselor so it do take plate and you can be cured but you got to catch it at an early stage and you know a lot of men they don't want to go down there and get tested they don't want to know that they got it but I was told by the doctor that if you continue to live it's strong possibility like ninety nine and a half percent that you're gonna catch it you know so I think people should get tested earlier you know so go down there play well look you're 68 years old right now turning nine where don't move me too fast I'm 67 67 my my birthday coming I will be 16 and I thank God for but you know I'm gonna got earlier one day at a time so you know but you said sick they didn't put me up months up let me enjoy this I'm feeling younger you because that ain't gonna put a little bit moaning but I feel good I feel blessed I'm thankful a mr. beat you know as relevant today as I was in the 70 steer got folks like Snoop Dogg P Diddy on my line stopping by the honeycomb which of my apartment their fellowship I'm still giving good game to people on the internet and I'm always open for famous player than different movie stars you know to me to give good advice you know to me like they know I've been there done that so you know the mean they know hey I lived that life so I can give you some real serious game and you know like I said hey you can't live with the stuff I use well listen I think that we would all be extremely lucky to be 67 years old and look as great you know as you're looking right now in doing as well as you're doing you know still still doing what you want to do every morning I believe me you know I'm feeling blessing I'm thankful for because you know like I say you know any moment things can happen you know to me not long ago you know I was in the hospital for blood clocks you know that kind of thing feeling like it was over you not I mean you can get that feeling when you're sick and different things so I feel honored to be here to be able to be on your shoulder it's pretty thing to let people know that things do happen in this life but you don't give up you keep on you're not I mean you keep on progress and you keep on trying to follow your dream and you know like today it's been so much distracting confusion and misunderstanding and hate and jealousy that people are missing they dream they're missing the mark because most people especially with social media are going on is trying to imitate life that they're not even accustomed to and it's causing them a problem not the person they trying to imitate because the burden they trying to imitate don't even know it so it's causing people problems you know what I mean and I say you know work with what you did would use your hand make it better for yourself like a lot of people say I'm looking over there somebody else grass the reason is greener cuz they water it you didn't forgot about your grass water your grass you can make happen what you see with your eyes if you have confidence in yourself well said man let's go ahead and talk about your story because we you know we did an interview last time but it wasn't like oh you know a full sit-down like we're doing right now well it was amazing though because you know to me or we it was so color five and watch it today the girl that I had on they had such loud colors on and I had my color with after Rydia so I mean it's a beautiful lighting and I mean the interview it was just an amazing you know you meant to listen and then I said just look at it I mean it's so beautiful cut girl they don't look like pink and purples and thing they it was just a beautiful setting man yeah well you born in Chicago born and raised okay Westside and you had seven siblings siblings and sisters I am the child but you know today there was a number that was calculated something like you know early in my life you know right now we're down to offer the Patriot tree you know to me to three you know I come from a family eight I am the a child which is the baby but you know as of lately I just lost two brothers within a year so you know things are happening you know what I mean we're getting an old dad time is passed and so you know what I mean but I'm still confidence that you know I mean we can continue to go my condolences on your loss so here you are growing up in Chicago and you have eight kids and your parents are married no there wasn't can I see this is the thing that you know they don't understand and I think that's why such influence was on my life when I talk about my mother and father I usually say my mother showed me and told me about love and my father taught me about money okay here's the thing and I asked my mother about it when I would Dave attacked about it when I came but my father took me away from my mother I stayed with my father something like eight and a half years before we passed I used to come visit my mother them on the weekend sometime and my father he had a restaurant he had ice cream Paulo he had three building so every weekend I will come to see my other sister brother I would bring them candy and tater chips and you know give a few dollar because that's what I had for my father but my mother and father they wasn't together and I asked my mother after I got old I'd say how could my father take me away from you she said back in them date which was the 50 she said your father had a black man he had money I said why I mean I said wasn't it polices and things like that she said yeah but when you have some money in them day you would able to fat bypass a lot of different things because I was wandering by me seeing it today if you take somebody there's a lot of court things and understand it and I was just wondering why didn't happen for me but that's what she explained it to me and by living with my father at air early I was exposed to so much because he had this restaurant which was a soul food restaurant and it was on the Main Street which was Madison and it was a across the street from the old Chicago Stadium so I would like in a restaurant from a baby so I'm saying everything I even seen a man get in front of a pool room I mean I was on the main strip growing up you know my father was raising me in a restaurant some time I stayed with my sister which was on my father's side and so you know and to my mother and my father got some understanding I was able to visit her at then I would say both parents and I was seeing my sisters and brothers you know so it was an amazing journey so I fear that's why I pick up the love from my mother and pick up the money far from my father because that's what he was into and I could say my father wasn't really able to read and write at five years old I was selling candy and you know doing things for him but he had buildings he had ice cream policy had restaurants so it was amazing he just had smarts how old were you when he saw someone get killed when I seen somebody got killed in front of the pool room I think I had to be at least 11 or 12 years old okay it was after the time my father had died and my sister she was still operating the restaurant and I came down to get something from her and this poolroom this guy that came outside argh and and POW shot him and that would you know and like I said coming up and then a city that wasn't the last time that I seen somebody get shot or killed rather yeah you know what I mean because you know like in that inner city it's sort of like a common thing and it's so common today like people are just like dealing with it without thematic I care yeah you know like in the norm when it really should be dealt with you know properly you know but it's something that always been and I was exposed to that early and you know I continue to see as I continued to grow up being even so close to standing to a victim that was murdered several times in my life this has happened you know me myself have become a victim of shooting I was shot clothes rain with a 30 gauge shotgun so I'd say things like that happen in the hood you know and you know you grew up there you sort of learn to deal with it so you're growing up in the inner city of Chicago and early on girls seem to like you how old were you when you realize that girls were attracted to you I it was an early age I must say at 10 years old I had two girlfriends no I'm gonna tell you how it happened first I must tell you this at an early age I would child molested the babysitter I remember putting me on top of her and you know whatever the situation was but I remember her telling me not to tell nobody and I never shared it because I really didn't know what it really was you know time and you were five years old I was five years oh you lost your virginity at five years old at friar UVO okay and you know like I didn't understand what the situation would but like I said as I continued to grow older I could believe it was part of the affected me because at 13 years old I was like staying with my sister-in-law was sleeping with a lady that was 26 years old okay I know it was embarrassing situation and the way that it happened is the lady used to come in like each night like playing like she was drunk and I'm thinking she was you know really drunk so I'm thinking I'm red creeping really taking advantage of her so you know all of this growing up this was part of the thing that was affecting me then might have led to what we go into and becoming a pimp and different things you not emit yet but what it what really was one day this lady told me she gave us on some money to go out to get a hot dog and told me and I'm 13 she said now every time we did some the lights was off so I don't see you you don't see me I'm thinking you drunk in the world you know you called him me different name so I'm you know to me I'm thinking I'm slick so here one day she told me right out she wanted me to make love now I'm Shane I'm sharing faced it I mean this to melted me like a pizza cheese I meanwhile you know what I mean I never thought we would be talking about it or not and I'm like I don't know what you told mine I'm really trying to play the dumb rap and she said no night we're gonna never be friends I had that if you don't do this right now and you know I'm nervous cuz you know lights on we know what's happened tonight anything I thought she didn't know this was taking place but not she didn't explode so we went on and I made it happen and you know like I said things like that exposed to me at an early age that possibly triggered a lot of things that I'd done in the future right because you know people are gonna look at the situation with you very differently than if you were a 13 year old girl having sex with a 26 year old man that would be that would be considered well I mean it's child nation either way I'm for some example spirit yeah it's a boy for some reason it gets a pass a lot of the times but it you know it is very traumatic either way well yes it is but you don't think of it at the time yeah and you know like I said it depends on the individual like I said a girl or a guy but believe me it have a tremendous effect and I know this by becoming a pimp and based on some of the girls that I had the chance to talk to that live me there spend time with me that I think deep inside of them that most of them had been molested by uncle cousin a nephew of something that trigger this that made them to want to be prostitutes mm-hmm you know I mean you can always look back and you think watch somebody do what they do but you have to look back and see how they was brought up or what they was involved in that trigger the event that take place today even when you know young boys have sex early and they have a lot of girls and they like it most just go and just try to juggle as many girls as they can they try to have sex with as many women as they could possibly can but you want a different route at one point women became a financial source so at what point did it go from just having sex with girls like you were just saying - okay this has to be a financial transaction okay it's one of these things first what I would expose to and my sister told me we used to go to school together she told me she said look oh these girls just be liking you and talking about you now this is my sister telling me that's about other girl so look I had two girls I'm in the hallway I'm ten years old I'm kissing them both to try to analyze who kissed the best okay my sister my older sister which is pathname hand came out the door and seeing us and told him girls to get out of there and smack me upside the head and told me to get in the house but it was this effect that let me know that I could do this okay and so what trigger the action for money and the pimping was property just like wanting to have money like you see it earlier coming up in the family eight father died mother on welfare you know how you gonna make it I mean we have choices there very few of us become movie stars and singers then you have to juggle another percentage of it whether you want to become a dope dealer a murderer a car thieves or pimp I chose to pimp life because I didn't like the violence of the game that wasn't me like I tell a lot of people that got involved in drugs that was friends of mine that ain't you if you ain't gonna kill don't get into that if you ain't gonna be the first one to shoot don't get into that because there's no softness in that life so I decided hey the pimping girls you know what cuz if it had to be somebody to go to jail I was gonna let them go okay well I mean you mentioned a bunch of different professions but all those are illegal I mean there's also all the legal professions out there that's open to to lower-income people well I'm trying to express to you and those that are watching that is not that many percentage down in the ghetto it's not that many opportunities I'm not saying that how many you see doctors lawyers and Indian chiefs of blacks running around well though I'm getting you the percentage of what we have to go for yeah what our opportunities are yeah you said yeah you can go to school then the schools are being shut down all the different programs are used to teach those trades they didn't shut down most of the time in some of you used to have summer program where they would pay people young people to go to that program to learn that job skill and pay them at the same time all in programs I sat down so people I really have to fend for itself parents are not able to provide for their kids especially with the economy today and the cost to living you know what a pair Jordan the cold and your kids don't want nothing else he feel like this is his whole education to walk into the school with a pair Jordan oh I'm dropping out whoo well I remember a pimps up hoes down you said that you tried doing a regular job but it just wasn't you well I was an Armour for the army yeah when I got out um my Big Brother's they wanted to try to make it happen you know the man even before I went in I'm I'm lay them a play I got 13 girlfriend the whole thing I'm the king of the dance flow all that is going on before I got drafted I was drafted I didn't violate you driver of you know yeah that was the Vietnam era okay so when I got out the army my brother trying to hook me up you know but I wouldn't that kind of thing that got me a job as some steer me all I had to do was put some kind of iron up on something every 30 minutes and let it go to I'm smoking weed man I'm sleep somewhere I got girls coming down to the defense turning dates with the guy that were I'm on the graveyard shift now I got girls coming under the fence turning day I'll click a they get behind a we need Sen said fine then they give me a job at swimming would you make bicycles in different parts I'm the guy that pulled to bring this file called a mark of something that the chains go on man I'm up in a band sleep cuz I smoke weed knocked out way yet everybody behind could make it happen I never had a chance to work on a job for a year I wanted to you know why cause it looked a good give that check and that extra check I never was able to get that you know in the day them checks looked a good my brothers and sister days working worker year you get that check you know two weeks old that would be to me man to have that money you know but it never worked for me and I was so young where I used to get my brother's ID and go work a job and I worked to two weeks the week you get that check and hold by we can then go back to school okay I mean that's I survived Awards in the days man okay so I how old really need I drafted into the army 18 aha so were you pimping before 18 no I would just at the board I was just at the board I was a super flare super player I was a super flare man I had 13 girlfriends you know what I mean I was the goddess dance with at the clue you know to me had girls taking me to breakfast after the club and things like that and I had met the chick that was gonna really turn my life around as soon as I got drafted we had just met and all of a sudden I'm drafted I'm gone and you gotta for how many years no I'm not whole lot now I'm a player now but I go into them now it's deer got this instinct getting on a man I didn't told my mother I can't do this I want to get out of it I did the first two months of basic trend like eight weeks of basic training I passed basic training then we went on leave I stayed on there keep it I'm AWOL now the captain called I'm married now call my wife and tell would you tell your husband to come back kadam me I went on back and everything they didn't do nothin to me and all of that get read back in for me but see I'm a player this in me when we all had two bowling alley I got weed I didn't got from a guy with me and Assad and smoking it was just that kind of thing that's how my life always been guys on the Army Post was getting letters from the girl up Dear John they asked me to write to let I put some slick and lana chick coming visit and writing them letter I mean that's how it always was for me don't get out of me so I was discharged and like I said my brother then was trying to give me job it just wasn't happened it for me you know what I mean like I said I always thought it was something big and better for me especially after knowing that my daddy had all of these things I knew I had to have something coming but I didn't know what the destiny was so you get get out of the army you try working these jobs and it doesn't work out at what point does the first female start giving you money okay I told you when I was at the job okay I had girls coming under the fence turning dates with the guy at the job I was working the graveyard shift and I mean you know I'm 18 years old you know in 19 years old it coming out of the fat turning dates with the guy they work at the job go back on the defense and then and when we get off at like what 7:00 in the morning something like that if a guy won't the further I take him to my apartment and let him turn the date with the girl you know dance so it was like in me you know like I had girls come by my house action my mother can they take me shopping I my name they acted my mother could they take me shopping what they check and things like that my mother had to agree well you know we want to do that for me stuff like that you know the ring okay so you're working this job and you got a couple how many girls are coming through and turn I got a couple of girl to girl on their defense two girls are coming in having sex with the guys and then bringing all the money back to you yeah okay how do you compensate them at that point I just bless them I make sure they have what they need you know to me and I break them off you're not I mean I'm you know we will know I'm a given and you know generous guy especially if you step up to the plate I got to bless you you know to me so I'm gonna make sure you get what you want if it you want your head you want to nail and you want a new outfit and some new shoes and flood put some in your pocket and if you got a kid that make sure you bless her you can make sure the can't get outfit for going to school or whatever it is so you know I mean it was always fair exchange what no Robert you know only time I was always putting tacks on a chicken if a chick stayed with me you know what I mean if we break and bread together it's a different thing because as entering the game before I even started pimping on girl I had girl that I used to take boost in some of them was my girl in several more than what I mean boosting it you take them to different shopping malls and let them go in there and steal what they steer and you get a third or what every age steer to be able to seal off the money or whatever it is or whatever they'd say at the defense you get a percentage today that was my gang early time taking chick to mall then I'm going in stealing in you know I mean dropping them back off okay so you got a a couple girls that are there turning tricks for you mm-hm but you're not actually living with them at that point are you no okay so they're not technically too stable or are they yeah they not technically my warming yeah because I don't have complete control over right you know I mean we making proposition you know I mean come on baby let's make this time I got these guys behind blam blam you know if they gave me 250 or 300 you know what I mean I might break off 450 do you know that man so you know I mean it was just complimenting working okay so explain to me how the pimping started to get more serious and become an actual business as opposed to a side hustle which is what this sounds like well what happened to him after I got out of the army I run into this lady that I have been pursuing before I left she was like the Queen at a town you know the most down as lady she was married but she was you know driving a big old brand-new I think it's a in the time it was the 72 Cadillac you know customized big old gangster white-walled and you know so when she seen me she said why would that happen to you you know I thought I had been to the army and blah blah Blee and thing but we reconnected and we you know and she was a little bit like maybe five years old of my senior and already in the game getting money and I mean I known you know international already so we reconnected and she told me to be a man it wasn't just that easy call like I said she had a husband and he didn't want it to happen and we had eyelid ups and down together like it ain't for you no more this what's going to happening man that you're not I mean and man we started hitting the road start getting money she was not a prophet if she was a thief so we started hitting the road we just gave money all across country you know we just going everywhere everyone just getting money and everything so she was one on one of them occasion that really sulfide my gang and I felt good about it and she felt good about it we was on the road out of town and she had got busted in one of these times and angle just named the tango they might be still lookin Ottoman but they had bust up for some thievery working on me and she escaped she jumped out the window but she came home to the hotel room with handcuffs on now I'm a young book my first time on the road I'm really nervous like this you know what I mean but amazing as it is you know as you watch TV you really see how they really put bobby pins in the handcuffs and pops it I mean really I took a big bobby pin and stuck it inside the handcuff and Bob man if I didn't think it would magic as she thought it would mad but it's sort of satified my game with her and wouldn't me to it let me know Wow we left that state and went to another state but but that's what took plates and so uh after me and how I've been together for a year caught a big case and uh Miami and she got ten years and I had a conspiracy on that case and they were throughout so now she's going to do ten years I'm the number one IMP in the game all the players saying are he ain't no pimp he had a thief you know what I mean ninety cent our he ain't there he ain't that now it's time to prove myself ok so now the first thing that happened here a chick came to me she was another pimp bottom girl and what I mean bottom girl she's the one that make things happen she said look I've been in the game for a year I got in the gang to learn it so I could come be with you hmm she came she became my woman now all the time we still got controverted with the guy that she was with we only said for the fight and he trying to snatch off the scroll he didn't pull it another pimp then gave him a gun he didn't pull the gun on me all of these things happen but the chick man boom Here Come another play of top chick come to me now I'm getting top chick play of number one girl now this is hyda gang going its Soloff eyeing my pimp game I had been the number one pimp in the country for 13 years it's from 1972 to 85 now he had come all of these girls I mean the guy top girl and they stayed with me something like man 10 and 15 years okay this was the real deal man I was these girls everything and they're on a region that time expired because God came into my life in 85 and changed my life and I had to give it all up the girl didn't want it they asked me why did I said I didn't know but God don't want me to do this no most I mean I was still activated the girl still wanted to do that I mean I can do that today if that's what I choose to do but the desires not there and God want to say man hide the desires not that you don't want to prefer severe one or two I'm amazed because I used to say when I was younger tempered and I thought I was gonna pimp till I died I never thought that I would reject it and didn't want to do it no more plus I know I'm a lil old and I ain't got time to be running to no police states and doing all that anyway my sister used to be a big help at that so you get your first girl and she's exploring other Pam she's experienced she knows everything he knows everything she knows the roles she knows the tricks she knows the the money everything so she starts she hits the strip they started bringing you money everyday everyday everyday seven seven days or five days a year no days off 52 what is it but to two weeks a year we say yeah and Toyo what 12 months 12 months a year and the end only gear 366 days hey they don't miss a lick but this was the thing here as a pimp you know to me I gave them Sundays off you know usually the chick works Saturday night get off about 6 7 8 10 in the morning or sometimes you had to pick him up at the courthouse about let my toy up in the morning but I usually get a girl's Sundays off I mean this was me and I had a top-flight chick you know we were seriously getting money I was getting some money - what he thought I was like selling dope because in the seventies and eighties dope dealers was the big thing they was really getting money but I was getting it from them females you know I mean I used to have females working you Don me 17 18 hours a day and 50 below zero weather and a knee-high snow with a miniskirt on with penny old with a split in the middle turning dates at it round the corner used to jump in the car with five six guys whether they be a musician - would by the time they get round the blocks you'd be the Eternity with all of and out with the cash I get to sit on the stroll sometime I had a custom-made van and I used to sit on the strode and I had a rock wall in there and I used to had a one the crack so much and I used to tell that you just throw the money in there and nobody would mess with the van I'd be in the back I had story was custom I'll be sleep but that rock wall I would sit right in the window nobody would mess around chick just total money to fall down in the van 6:00 in the morning they jump in we drive on home I flicked the game with me I actually have a Rottweiler myself so I know exactly what you're talking about Yeah right well I will sit there yeah and and not no one will mess with it it'll tear your head off if you try to cut you test that one is like oh yeah oh yeah no I could relate yeah okay how big did a stable get at the height how many girls the best I could do was seven seven girls at one yeah but I was constantly with three constantly I mean my whole game for all the period of time in the game was like three constantly and I did up to seven you know what I mean I stayed in a house with seven girls I mean it was an amazing trip and then it it's mind games you know you got to understand you controlling all of these minds and you know people have different thoughts you know different movements but you have to control that you have to what I always tell a player you got to put your mind inside a day man so they'll be thinking like you they can't think like they want to it's not gonna be effective they got to think like you want them to in order for them to do that you got to incorporate your thoughts and today my and let them feel what you feel won't the best want to do this wants to be there I used to tell my girl baby I'm gonna take you out a Hollywood I did that I see a woman got the love a man that do what he say he gonna do they don't believe it from the beginning no way because they don't think that they qualified to be in Hollywood they didn't think that they should be no way could they be there and when they found this self on Hollywood Boulevard they would have made the same thing when I took him to the White House and we stood at the gates of the White House see this is amazing from a girl that's coming from the street for a man to do what he'd say gonna do and it's like putting them up on a pedal let them know I'm not ashamed of you I would take you why I go I remember you said when it comes to girls one is so close to none well the reason I say one is so close to none because if you have one chick and she gets sick or even if she died well if you ain't a pimp you become homeless and if you just boyfriend a girlfriend you'd lose that chick so always thought if you have to or anything and one going you still have one left right so definitely the pimp is not good to have one girl you've got to have more than one and also it increase your money so you have these these group of girls okay up to seven at one point yeah and from the outside it looks glamorous but you know for example I just interviewed sugar free who was a pimp for a long time and he and he kind of broke down the difficulty of trying to manage so many personalities you got to you got to understand something you know here it is you got multiple women okay these [ __ ] got different birthdays they both favorite food is different they like different [ __ ] on the radio someone got kids and [ __ ] someone got kids that little far far out some got kids this across state it might be their birthday or the mother's birthday and here you are that you know that's why they say you know real people don't get no sleep because you know them [ __ ] constantly need [ __ ] you know what I mean and you got to be willing to okay [ __ ] come on so the stress involved in keeping track of all that is extreme we would you tend to agree well I think it's extreme that one that is not capable you know like I said a lot of people take on a challenge that's really not they chanted you know what I mean he's got to be in you and not on you a lot of guys got it on them but it ain't in them and they take the Ritz and try for the people for the glamour full of the glory but it don't mean it's really their job like I know some real serious professional pimps that have played it for you but they go on they work in Jah they doing this they doing that I don't think I mean I said to myself God please don't curse me like that you know what I mean because I don't think the template player that gang is always in you but see some of them guys get to where they came playing no more cos it really ain't in there I understand what sugar-free was saying but it's all about the control you make that stuff where it's convenient for all party definitely you got girl that got babies some of the girls that you have they have my hair two three chick I mean two three babies I mean mama don't want it I've been through all that with mama then reached and hit me with a baseball bat get out of here no I want my prostitute I'm not leaving that prostitute knowing I'm an her mind that she got to come you know so like I said guys take on the challenge like too short told me before he had a guy with him they used to call him some kind of pretty boy or something and he used to play the pimp I too sure told me the man actually went mentally on that because girls was really coming to him to try to get him to pimp them and that really wasn't his makeup but it was just something he was doing as part of the two short act so I'm saying things happen to guys like that but if his Indian you can deal with it I'm not mental I was able to deal with it I have woman that had have babies I mean from different part from different nationality from different races I mean you deal with that see a lot of guys have done with these different videos like to riff for TV and things like that would eat and her different pimps say a lot of things everything that they said out their mouth wasn't necessarily true but a lot of guys that listen they learn everything they say and they try to run it to a female and it works all the way today get to the part where ain't no motor said and they don't know what to say so now is over so what they really were doing was milling and something that they should have been involved in because they make it bad for the guy that really seriously pimping somebody that if they life who is like some of the dope dealer they had girls but it wouldn't heal I've heard there was Meadowlands they was using the drug to captivate the female so that she would go on the street to see her body for them so they could impress a real pimp saying I got a prostitute but they wouldn't what I say making her do what they wanted her to do she can go out maybe come back with $50 a real pimp ain't living like that he's not going for that but it wasn't a livelihood when it's your livelihood you have to really stick to that because you seriously paying bills cotton notes and all kind of things jewelry you sending kids through school off of that film money I've done that when you have a number of females problems start to arise you know last time we even talked about how violence becomes part of the pimp game how sometimes you've said that you had to put your hands on women fighting it's like a criteria you know it's like the jewelry the clothes and all that the car there's a quiet ear it do happen it's part of the game you know what I mean because you got to establish a certain thing you got to establish some fear in that female in order to get that respect you must establish that and she's gonna try you to see if you qualified to get that respect from her so it's gonna bring some fear and when and what I'm saying is violence you know I mean and and and it's something that don't have to take place but it do take place because you establishing something here that I am the one that you listen to and believe in and nobody else and you know like I said when I had to fight it the girl it wasn't for money you know what I mean maybe you left the scroll and I told you not to you know what I mean you know when you violate certain things you have to check them if you do it you know what I mean okay but in the pimp game it don't necessarily work like that you have to really put your feet down you not I mean you have to really show that girl you have to almost you told that girl you was going to kill her when it come time to fight you have to almost tell her the beggar - said dad and all please don't kill me it has to be that series where the thing about it is you know only one understand the prostitute or whole is a pimp and she understand the pimp because see now a lot of people on outside and I said Squires and lame because they really don't understand the game and they see a guy put his hands on a grenade he weak he did he shouldn't be hitting a woman and different things like that but now it's a quiet Aryan certain thing that take place in the game if you are fighting in the rain you got to hit because that's what it called for you can't be no pimp and you definitely can't control the prostitute without fear you've got to put that fear in there in order to get that seriously respect from her and then you got to understand this and I'm a witness to this and I testified to this that it is some girls in the game that don't believe you care about them or love them and lesson you put hands on them daddy I didn't do at all listen you ain't hitting me she would do everything she can to get you to hit her and if you don't she gonna feel left out that you don't care that you let her do these things and didn't hit her she feel in haha with all her mind that if you hit her you care about her that is part of the game and it might sound unusual and it might sound strange to some Squires but it's the truth well it's like you said these girls are coming from you know extremely bad backgrounds hold it you can't say that you can't say that no well you said that all of them have usually been sexually abused I didn't but I didn't say they all come from background course you get them from the suburbs also okay you know to me it's just different things that they go through now you can say in the suburb that they was always like kept under glue and once they get free they get a chance to do and see everything so it ain't about just a person in the ghetto bin child molestin I mean you got some rich and famous that want to experience that life that endured that life is it's not a respect to person because when you speak prostitution you got black white red green blue all nationality and some be most clean girl that come out of some of the best houses that you could ever you know ever see and some do it even to to help take college tuition oh you'd be surprised that a girl that sell their bodies oh no don't take it to the lower than the scum of the world because there's some that on top of the world that dudes some of your most respected girls are the most elite there are prostitutes well I remember there was a story you said about how one of your girls got shot on the strip and she was in the hospital badly badly hurt almost dying and her mother was there and when she and when you came in she said daddy help help help me get up out of this bed so I can go go back to the track and make that money for you let me tell you about that story which is a true score remains and you know when I speak on this story I speak on dedication this is dedication dedication to the man dedication to the game and dedication today says you know you got some people that get into the game and wants to play by the rules they want to do everything that the rules of the game the requires of them to make them harder and successful in the game and this female was one of them people she was working one day you know like you know sometimes female gwon working the day depend on now and there was she was working in it was like a market air we're bid this man has come in and out with trucks and different things so it was really some decent paper there and it was the thing about me is that uh I didn't like my girls dating blacks because one thing about when they did blacks is always the problem they want too much for their money they take their money back too much pressure on that [ __ ] and then I wanted to make sure it was no sneak boyfriend you did so okay here's the guy pull up on the stroll daylight and wanted to date the female you know to me he might have been circling a two or three times pull up on I acts of the date and she tell him now you know I'm not dating you know the main chick understand and you know they got that good instinct and they know things too you know to me because this had been a dedicated female that had once before got shot in the lair came home tied it up chained weaved and went back to work so I know she got a real estate she got shot in the leg yeah strapped put a strap on her came home heimo drafted up strapped it on a different wig and went back to work so I knowed it was a with a bullet in it bullet went straight through the thigh but she never went to the hospital he never went to the house so she's basically bleeding outside all no stopped all that back to work change wigs so I knew she was a qualified chick so okay now back to the story about the guy wanted a black guy pulled up on the stroll won't the data she rejects the date he pulls out a gun shoots the girl five-time thing maybe a couple of times in the air body blah blah blah so okay I don't know nothing about it I'm off somewhere else trying to you know the main level up my game catch another chick get word that she been shot from another one of the girls that she at the county hospital I called my sister my older sister she used to be the one that would go down to the gym Barnum out for a minute they tell her let's go to the hospital you know I heard that Michelle has got shot so we go to the hospital I walked into the hospital her mother already did help people and me and my sister walk in and I look at it tools everywhere they'd like you know it's over I step up in there for some reason that she'd get electrified and she raised up and said daddy I wish I can get up out this bed and go get you your money now the chick gland hit bullets in her head and then the body and she said it to me as soon as I walk in I'm mama dear sister than anything and her mother looked at me and said what have you done to my daughter I said ma'am nothing I said it's just dedication ma'am that's all it is pure dedication this lady land and proximally could make it but her whole todya to get out of this bed and get me my money did she make it yes amazing made it but you know what the sad story about it is you know it was a time of his PCP drugs and different things and we had a little bit of it in our family and things around us and different things and I I didn't like the girls using it but I would try to get to him at certain time when we parting and kicking around but did she got so affected by that after we went together she was going to a Mama's house and some other prostitute she had had a problem with was waiting in the bushes and jumped out and shot her one time and it killed her I went to her funeral and I thought I could really speak as a Mack and I was speaking about our COO and talking and all of a sudden I just broke down and started crying man you know the woman that gave me some like ten years or life pure dedication man and it was just amazing journey and I'm saying that's not a game here and it's there pretty much alive you know to me but just like I said you know it's just not as effective and guys don't really hold women to what they say and women don't really hold guys to what they say it's a fake situation well you got shot yourself close range I got shot close range with a 30 gauge shotgun I still got buck shots in me in my finger you know they just couldn't pull them out it's been like surgery everywhere I still got booked shot that I can feel I can personally show you okay was the situation about oh nothing coming up in the community I just left for female house on my way to go play basketball with the rest of my friends just walking down the street and some guys pull up in a car stick the shotgun out and boom and I was lying I've been in like four days in a hospital totally sacks in me age you think the girl boyfriend it's an ED and all of that it just stood there waiting in the city wars bill you stand up standing out on corner the guys riding around looking to do violence you know to me see you sitting out I was just walking boom shot me you know when you said in the beginning when you had a choice of what to do you know you could have been a drug dealer you could have been a bank robber he could have been a murderer he chose to be a pimp because it wasn't as illegal as the as the other ones but it's still illegal yeah it's still illegal right but it's the oldest profession have been going on since the beginning a time I didn't start it right well and it and it ain't up to me and you know like I said I'm a victim myself right you know to me but it was a way of economy ways of getting money are ways of trying to duck the police you don't even see a thing that you really got to understand the gang is supported by the same people that this mmm the lawyers the doctors the judges the police's the politician they the one that support the game oh you think a pimp trying to dates with another prophet again in my money no these are the people that support to get it couldn't be no pimping if it don't beat them for tricks okay well I mean the reason why I said it is because in the eyes of the law what you're doing is still illegal and you had brushes with the law and so forth I had plenty brush with the law I remember the time to low I had the first slash back going down Madison Street severe Calais the police arrested me lock me up took my car drove it down the stroll the stroll is what a prostitutes were arrested by prostitutes in my car brought them back to the station brought him to see me and said look young man in the cage like a monkey park my car put two picks in the door lock so when I bond it out I couldn't get in my car he had put two picks in the dual lock things happen like that in the game but do you know that same police were transferred this was on the north side he was transferred to the west side we've become good friends when I got arrested do you know I did not even get a Bonnie let me out the basement told my friend to come here things like that it's amazing it's like different police used to tell me guys want to be like you don't want but they can't be like you they ain't you I used to take to Assad in cases of champagne to the police station and drop it off to him I mean I used to do things different me and my prostitutes used to go plates that that they didn't want other pimps and prostitutes they said we don't mind you coming down one but we don't know about all their mother fee because I had a certain respect a certain character a certain way I told my girl the care they said how you to take my girl six months to the Medical Center to get checkup for diseases and things like that you know when I retired a didn't come out to 85 when they start talking about it always finishing the game me what I think a lot of people don't realize is that when it comes to the pimp and the hole it's not a standard job arrangement it's actually a relationship it's definitely a relationship I mean it's husband and wife and the bond is even stronger than that because you don't know many wives better go out and work for the other and let the Heldman stay at home and bring the care so the bun is so much stronger it's so much realer it's so much life into it because of the excitement and I mean when you got that platform and the prostitute can stand up next to a man and know her man is number one and she getting a cheer she feel there that's the drive to make her want to go out and get up man some money to continue to keep him number one that's what the gang is about man well I mean the girls are going out and having having sex for money and bringing it back to you but you're having sex with the girls as well well it's like quality time you know to me is like you deserve this now I'm your prize now you know it is a treat to the girls when they have a relationship with a pimp you know to me and and and it's definitely a true understanding cuz they you got to understand it's more than just a sex relationship because when you send in a girl to have sex she all kind of sighs beeps you don't I mean so you ain't trying to be the best Nayla you trying to be her best man not the one can do it to it a bit that ain't what really kind of survivor somebody that can take her to the next level she can give sex anyway you didn't shoulder that but it's about the elevation that she needs somebody to come like to do to stop the loneliness to stop the hate to bring up to that place where she wanted to feel like to be a queen to put her in that position where other people respect that would have never respected if it not for you being in her life well you actually have children with some of your some of your girls right yeah how many man you know I'm baseball feel action right you did well I heard I got kids but understandable dozen kids huh I've heard a couple dozen yeah 20 right you have 20 some years right and these were all with you the girls that worked for no no no no you got to understand and the man I'm a rolling stone I had the will to do I thought you even have female to bring me female so it wasn't all prostitute and then when it was prostitute they really wanted the babies value so you got to restrict him from Nayland and definitely using a condom so that you ignored your baby I even had a chick that had a baby but it was a trick baby but after man you had to claim it because she is your woman you know to me so you know what I mean I was a married man I didn't have baby by my wife by different chick that was close to me so it ain't just all about the prostitute to have a baby but a prostitute with such such respect and glory that you would give that honor to have your seed so how much it just don't really happen all yeah well how many children do you have you just said a couple of dogs though 20-something children yeah do you and I'm talking about and you know you got to believe as a man of my standard it might be another ten that I don't even know about kick that the females never even wanted to tell me about I'm telling you okay this happen in that kind of life man okay do you contain a relationship with all your children oh yeah yeah so the alter freaky mind have been associated with me that I know okay like I said it female they might only want to tell you about it later you know to me my hear about it on my birthday too number two death certificate you're not of me so you know me but it's that way you know you've always been a weed smoker you and I smoke weed I mean just before it's interview amongst many times there you go you're old strain search cannabis sir not yours this is my brand I'm the spokesman for it I picked this I'm telling you I'm a connoisseur I know that snoop Method Man Redman and be real y'all think top smoker I topped them this is the number one strain in the game this is Church cannabis and I'm told my man for real you just said yourself you smokes on this please I mean right now by the state of California we got the best packaging anywhere and it in it's legit it's in dispensaries in Long Beach and Los Angeles you know and Topanga I mean it's around it's the best strange you can be so don't fool yourself letting nobody fool you but search cannabis ww search calm and also put it in a spill of rillo extendo get the best smoke in your life jackets what is it and I'm serious you know and it's a beautiful thing you don't mean that I can be involved with this and that people would take my word and I'm not just saying that because I believe in it I mean we've been endorsed by Snoop Dogg he's been endorsed about different real serious smokers would you know and not only do it come pre-roll they got the vape ice they got you know I mean they got the pre-rolled blunt so you know this is a product to deal with and every dispensary need to have it in their store now you've always been a weed smoker but at one point you got on PC P what if the PCP was the early thing like I said early in the game and I mean they had it out here in California I had to come all the way out here get a frantic man some comforting project to get a little ball of water death how much I wanted that PCP that PCP is really an amazing thing and what I'm saying is is death demenna because it's a tranquilizer that they use for elephant to do breeding and different things like that and here we was putting it in our brain and it showed you how dangerous I got a friend that we have been friend for something like 15 years and this guy was on PCP he shot his baby mama he shot his three-year-old baby blowed the baby head off with a 357 Magnum but before he did that he feared to baby some fruit loops and he shot himself in the head but he was under the influence that this really wasn't happening that he thought that he would come back oh yeah you know this is how PCP gives you that understanding yeah I had some girls on it guide you to tell me man I can't take your girl to work no mo they jump out of my cab and running and all of that kind of stuff one of my girls we went in a liquor store she went inside the freezer I couldn't get out she wouldn't let nobody take out the freezer I mean it had some really terrible effects on your man oh yeah no I interviewed a guy named Christ bearer who got high off PCP and cut his own penis off I was high as a [ __ ] man with no sleep and [ __ ] I'm just frustrated because you know I couldn't talk to my little my my baby's innocent like that and I had like okay like three child support payments when I see none of my kids and [ __ ] right and I really thought for that moment in time that I'm really hurting myself just you know not having a vasectomy I would not you know that okay and it was just like I was gonna give myself one to tell you the truth you know I mean that's the reason you know you know I blasted off high Family Guy was a family guy and will sell this [ __ ] family got American dead so I was like in a cartoon world can we smoke that that damn web PCP you'll be like you know it [ __ ] is like you just in the cartoon electronic world you know electron Neutron world shit's not you know what happens in subatomic worlds different what happens in reality in this reality your fantasy world not necessarily fantasy world how wouldn't you say well you know we're just in a world different world I was in a subatomic world little subatomic world and you grabbed a knife I don't know what I grabbed whatever [ __ ] told you what our graph might be queer because I don't know what I grabbed it's like I would have turned my head at that point you know I'm saying but shouts of my [ __ ] I said nobody's queer but I don't know I don't know what they say but somebody said I was grabbed a knife or cutting my [ __ ] badass life and I did some did some you know some ginzu [ __ ] it's like nah I don't I don't know no you don't remember it but I remember made a Fupa I mean I mean I mean I made a slice that was to put away the knife or what I got but that one's too sharp it was too sharp because what I did when she was late she was like she was too sharp it was our once a was too sharp I was too [ __ ] up to be honest II I grabbed some type of knife Ashley I'm gonna grab some type of knife or steak knife you know say a [ __ ] sue actually who see me grab steak night they they they justify because I would have looked at my eyes too if I don't wanna grab the knife sighs I will tell you the truth make sure my life was not in jeopardy so I recant that statement but I did grab the knife and it was like illustration to the [ __ ] see my kids and it was sent to me a monk type of [ __ ] was on my mind you know me it gives you that or loser nation I didn't have a girl that jumped out the window I didn't a girl jumped out of cars doing 50 miles an hour things like that it gives you a certain illusion where it frightened you and you scared you and it'll have you doing things that you think you're not doing that you're doing that's the kind of thing and I was so glad that God took that desire away from me and you know a lot of guide you to smoke it what they call smoke it wet I didn't do it like that I would mix it with some other weed you know but when they used to smoke a lot they felt in charm instict it was the death of mental Johnny trust me so you were taking PCP and was it all the PCP high that you decided to quit Pippin no it was the experience at one time I was smoking PCP that I was in the apartment and I had jumped on the chick and the chick off the back of me and rented some neighbor's apartment and I jumped over the back now at the naked running down the streets and didn't want another part through problem in my clothes and then the police came that night knocking on the dope looking for Don Juan and I looked out I didn't know what the police I looked out on the back of it and I've seen the Foley's about a wall with his gun like that and I slid back in the side door and I said I know Don Juan here I guess they didn't have no search warrant or anything so they didn't keep the doing anything like that but I told all my drugs away and the thruster down the Comeau and everything and then I was looking at our program and a religious program I wasn't trying to cut our turn in every China and every time it seemed like it was the religious station and then the preachers say it on one of the time I see somebody who had just been say I knew nothing about being saved but I felt something was happening to me call my mother and told my mother she said call a preacher she gave me a number because I thought I don't know know if it's a number and I called it fruits and he said yeah you have been saved like he was giving me confirmation it was an amazing journey I didn't realize it and this happened in California you know I left California went back to Chicago I joined this Bible school called Moody Bible Institute is the numbers to five institution in the country I started learning the Word of God God told me after three years he was going to give me a church I stopped pastor than I found it impacted my Turk the first Sunday I was going to open up your church caught on fire okay everybody was sent oh man you too devil they don't want you know I mean it was this kind of criticism yeah but it was a but it was the best thing could have happened because when I was doing the church I couldn't fix it like I want to cause out the pimp and I didn't have the money so when the church burned up the owner said I don't worry about I got in show beautiful put meals on the wall and the ceiling copied everywhere my attorney friend paid for green and gold pews attorney Yan over man they've become the most beautiful church had something like 250 members and then it was like all kind of churches would come each year the fellowship would have black white all kind of you know to me rates it it was that they wanted to see the pimp that had got to church and the testimony that I gave them and everything it was such a journey man and I used to go out and I used to vandalize at all kind of churches they took me and I spent weeks watch it in and Wisconsin and different places that you know evangelized and it was amazing man well at the time do you stop it how much were you making per day like what was the most you were pulling in well one thing about it is I must say you don't discuss money because you know the tact cases looking but wait I may explain all that to you I had a tax case with the IRS they Chardon before I think 74 and 75 and they gave told me I had to pay something like 125 out of a month for for seven years or something to try to pay the money back and everything which I did that you know to me but I must confess that I was top of the line with driving Rolls Royces Cadillacs had how this the best of jewelry that anybody could have so you know do you know I mean I was top of the line I mean I was like what they call the big having money they you I have money what he was thinking like man you must be selling dope because you know dope do you have plenty of money and fame the back in the 70s and 80 you know what I mean when I was riding that kind of tired man I had the best chicks thieves where I would get diamonds I was getting money I'd get all kind of stuff they would bring home so I was at the top of my game man and what years did you leave the game 85 when God came into my life so since 1995 so we're talking about over 30 years ago almost 35 years now you have not pimped at all you have not taken money from a prostitute I wait hold on I literally said I don't do no pyramid I'll still ask for money okay I'm not afraid to act woman for money okay you know under me but what I'm saying I haven't had a girl on the street I didn't even have woman's come to me and offered to go on the street and I rejected it I'd have never thought I'd have done that in my day said like I thought you'd September death but I have rejected it but I'm not gonna reject money did a woman hand to me I think it's part of the rorty's of the game I deserved that but whatever viewed sugar-free he told me that when they started calling it human trafficking what changed overall I mean the name is scary it is [ __ ] spear it's [ __ ] scary from pimping and pandering I mean me with trafficking a [ __ ] get a lowering ticket and you know gogo about her way but you know the game got so disrespectful you know what I mean you know we wasn't brought up to pimp on no minors you know I'm saying we wasn't brought up to you know do certain things that that uh that has evolved in the generations we wasn't taught those things you know you know a lot of it's disrespectful and but yeah I seen it taking a turn and sure enough man yeah here they come luckily your Africa and you get out the way the word human Wow you know human yeah human trafficking what a thing about the gang is today that the gang is being misconstrued and disrespected you not I mean I mean they not plan by the rules anything goes mean anybody gonna go so what I'm saying is you got guys now in order to impress they'd taken kids like over in Atlanta the guys was busted for pimping girls as young as ten years old in Chicago God just got the guys about 35 years in Atlanta Chicago guy got fifty years p-chaw for pimping girls there were thirteen and fourteen years old had tattoos you know that's disrespectful to the games I mean really in the game you got to have females of a especially if you high-profile pimp you cannot run around with minors in your gang you know we had women that was raising kids so we wasn't trying to pimp on kids I just think that these players do they don't have enough gang to tell to the door so they're trying to tell it to a child and you know a child don't understand all you got to do is show a child a few dollars a lift flat and they stuck yeah man but pedophilia on any level is is despicable well you know to me I you can call it pedophile but I mean we don't call it that on this lady we call it a misunderstanding a guy that don't know what to do you know what I mean that he can tell it to or do it you know to me and you know like I said molesting a child it's really out of you know out of order you got to think and you know like they thought pimps don't have but I do have heart because they got kids you wouldn't want your child to be pimped on that tent at any age but it had to happen you would prefer to be the grown-up well you have daughters as well as yes I do did any of your daughters turn to prostitutes yes they did yeah I've had daughters that have involved in prostitution okay yeah I said I was involved in pimping okay your honor me so little son but but but my thing is if it's something that you must do even if the ACMA today you got to learn to do it right you know like I said a lot of people have watch these Hollywood movies what a totally disrespect to female and totally disregard her family anything I used to take the mothers like holiday Thanksgiving turkey Christmas we make sure the mama is sad if I have stuff for the kids and for ourselves back-to-school clothes for the kid you know it has to be a certain level of respect in order to make your gang survive okay so you didn't feel any type of way over your own daughter prostituting well with did you ever meet the pimp that was that was yeah as a matter of fact I have a daughter now that works in a strip club they just had a baby that's got some guy I just try to give them the proper direction of proper understanding if you choose to do this know how to do this I even have a daughter that it's a lesbian I don't condone that but that's our decision but I still love us but I don't condone that I didn't even had a son that didn't done some pimping deaths they desired to do that I don't encourage it I don't said go to duty my encouragement is stay in school get your education get Nigel what I was told I even said myself if my father had lived I'd have been your lawyer your doctor I wouldn't have been your pimp or your friends with Dennis HOF who owned the bunny ranch rest in peace rest in peace why didn't you ever go in the legal route in terms of you know the legal brothels or something like that where the thing about it is I thought about that but as a pimp you don't want to split with nobody even working folks don't like in the government 50% so what would a pimp that's you know freelance and want to split his money Oh cuz you gotta pay taxes right right you don't protect this as a pimp you know to me a lot of times I wanted to retire from the pimp game I thought about putting my girl than the massage father but it's always the thought of splitting your money with somebody else and then you never know what the girl bringing these United mean you take our word for it you got enough determination to bleed that she didn't put everything on the table anyway you know to me so majest that understanding me and being in the pimp game you came in contact with a lot of interesting people you and mr. t have always been close friends well mr. t yeah well I was just telling somebody the other day a friend of mine LaDonna tiller was a radio personality in Chicago she appeared on the TV show shad now and I was telling somebody me and her was you know really cool together and she had the radio person I had tickets to a heavyweight fight that took place in Chicago 1980 running to mr. t we become friends in most of the jury that mr. t has come from me right yeah so he kind of fashioned himself after you to a certain regard from the jewelry and everything well he always admired my style you know you come from Chicago you know to me I was number one pimp in the continent I was getting action from all sides of town because of my style my flat my jewelry's you know my character whole thing so after we met we'd become friends and you to pick him up at there even when he moved out he I used to visit him and uh but then I had you know a lot of gold most of the goal we got out sold it to him you know and the and a different things he made like the spoon to fall modular which is called Ron jeweler he made did you reformed Ron has passed on you know to me and the ring mr. t wet I said mr. t I gave it to him as a gift no charge you know and another one he why I sold it to him and things like that okay you know we used to go out to the club together we used to fella self together not only would mr. t but Leon I the Kennedy you know James Kennedy has will you to fellowship and hang out together the dramatics in the earlier days you know I'm familiar with the shy lights and Tyrone Davis you know I come up in there where entertainment with the thing so you know our fellowship would be R white and a lot of different people I've been coming out here to Hollywood since 1974 I used I was at the Image Award when Michael Jackson worn his first image of war from me and devil HCP you know I was there things like that so you know I've been around this town I used to hang out at Carlos and Charlie's don't sunset Carlos and Charlie was a big play for all big stars and things like that we're just saying that you know once this air and people see that that's gonna give my flag back because it was a big thing all the movie stars used to be there right you were one of the first guests on Oprah show was she launched when the matter of fact Oprah came from Baltimore I even did that show was called people are talking and came over to Chicago I was really how first really major again I had just got saved I was in the Sun time newspaper it was 1985 Oprah just coming to Chicago and she needed something to boost that show and I was the guy did you come in contact with our Kelly doe me and I'll Kelly I personal friend okay as a matter of fact the first time Mark Kelly was involved in his situation he called on me and I went and prayed whatever and we spoken everything and as you know its history uh say he beat that case yes you know that was the eight-year case and he beat that case and you know also as a trivet he put my name in this song and stepping in the name of love you know Don Juan and now write of it for my you know praying wooden and being his friend and uh most recently when I was in Chicago I stopped by the studio and we talked and he had a new blues album he wanted me to listen to because he said he respected my opinion and before I had people around and say you know our Kelly really respect you and appreciate you and different things so you know we friends you know people do what they think I don't condone what he do is it fear that he got a problem did he need to get help like we all know jail is not the place for help just seek help well and then you'll Snoop Dogg had a long friendship well me and Snoop Thomas spiritually revived uh it still by side many years not only spirit survive being a friend and been like a father figure and you know gave him the knowledge that I have received over the years and uh and I see you know over the time that it had been a blessing snoop had become seriously not a monument entrepreneur the big star Hollywood star on the side and I just feel strongly and thank God that he made me a part of that man's never been something like the better part of his career over like almost twenty years a better of friendship yeah and you you've appeared in movies with him yeah you know that old school starts in house together first time I met snoop it was in 1994 in Atlanta at the Freaknik and I was at a show in Chicago and he's seen me in all and told him to bring me in the back and from then on we've been friends and he told me if I ever come out to California look him up and you know it's been a journey you know I'm the one you know you took all Jamie Foxx for snoop and different things like that for Snoopy even though even we were that one of the awards no I tapped prints on the back they print snoop wanna say hello to you I mean you know counseling them do different things he ever went through even doing the shield night air I stood with him and you know gave him advice and you know he respected my advice and you know like I said I'm just glad to see his journey is so fulfilled his family growing and he said he see somebody's worked by the compound and it's just amazing I'm just glad to be a part of that in I feel that God puts me on these journeys and it's an amazing journey man you know here we are you're almost 30 years or more than 30 years out of pimping but like you said before prostitution is the oldest profession and it's gonna continue to go on and how to cut the lights on this small planet you did I mean that's the way it is I mean and and I don't I don't knock it and the reason I say that is because it had been effective and some man's lives had me married me and a lot of married men can't get what they want at home and it ain't always sex sometimes they buy conversation they buy a company you know what I mean and this thing that wives won't do at home you know once you be with you your wife before y'all man y'all doing everything but once you get mad nice you don't want to get you know head nice you don't want you to get no jacket you know none of mean things like that you don't want to play with it no more I mean a lot of things interested below which you can get from a prostitute spend your money going back home nothing ain't happened well do you think that you know prostitution has always been around but do you think in 2019 the pimp is still necessary when you have the internet and well I mean you had back page you got shut down but you know that was a big a big hub for prostitution well that's a good reason to let you know that you need a pimp by your side just got a back page just by that guy killing the prostitute different things like that see a prostitute needs a pimp she need that guidance she need that somebody to show that love and and and she need that understanding and only one can really understand there is a pimp you know to me because he gonna give us some instructions before she fall into destruction you know what I mean because she needs to know and like I said the instruction ain't just for prostitute is for human being period to survive and move in life it just happened to be a pimp giving it to a prostitute mmm well Don magic Juan is a hell of a story I don't think anyone's ever done it like you before hey I'm the best that ever done it and they say got away with it from fifth stick to pulpit I actually read that book before you and I met yeah but it's a mole here this is the second of this race you buy my visible difference this is the last man standing okay you know to me I didn't stir the test of time this internet you know this pimping you know to me I mean so much to where not only to my life store but I have a 33 daily spiritual guide I mean you don't I mean I understand even through life no matter what you do you still need guidance and understanding and instruction I have a major internet social media going where people tell me daily thank you for the instruction thank you for reminding me thank you for giving me a word that's what I do on my social media it have nothing to do with likes people joining their site I'm just giving instruction I might be the only one on social media that don't follow over to people that got almost 2000 guess you can check you can search the whole social media I'm willing to bet everybody follow more than two people or they're gonna get no hit I'm not interested I'm getting the gang free gang knowledge for the you know for living yeah a way of life you just happened to be getting it from Don magic Juan but it's gain you can live back I didn't have people called me preachers doctors lawyer politician said I read your book I'm not no pimp but it helped my life yeah well I read your book and makes a difference it was definitely a great read and like I said man you're looking great you're looking healthy you know I wouldn't against your age if you were to ask me you know if we didn't already know each other I woulda get out I guess maybe 50 you know yeah but you know like I said earlier in the show it's all about you taking care of yourself you know I smoked a lot of weed but you never heard me say I do cocaine right never heard me say I do acid in it and drink syrup or any of them ecstasy nothing I've been a Weed Man oh my lingo since about 12 years old from play of throw me in the back of the car took me round the block lit up with John I've been stuck everything there you go and at 67 years old man if you want to look like this at this age do they see my name on my shoes clear a lie around here Jack I'm talking about for real tipsy I'm minute the winner that I can't quit and then ain't no cat that dropped so I'm still in the running what it is Don magic wand always a pleasure will we meet up Church preach Tabernacle and that's the only way we're gonna get any action that's how we do it peace

Channel: djvlad

Views: 802,168

Rating: 4.7003269 out of 5

Keywords: VladTV, DJ Vlad, Interview, Hip-Hop, Rap, News, Gossip, Rumors, Drama, Don Magic Juan

Id: 7CzHzeeVRlE

Length: 92min 21sec (5541 seconds)

Published: Wed Jun 12 2019