Deepak Chopra | Club Random with Bill Maher

love random I feel like we met 30 years ago or something because it was Politically Incorrect you recognized the sign doesn't that yes Nostalgia for you yeah but I love this oh yeah I love this too yeah but I mean that had to be close to 30 years ago because that show went on in 1993 yeah and you were like where were you not 93 you were like just you're just becoming very I of the moment you were in that culture a lot T3 was uh interesting year because that was on one hour on the Oprah Winfrey show Oprah is that what started the whole no it didn't actually but back one particular one hour with Oprah I sold 800 000 books in 24 hours wow and I was on the New York Times uh number one for like 84 weeks so let me ask you uh uh this is a perfect question for you I even said to him marry me and you could be Oprah Chopra he said that you were that's just terrible yeah that worked better than the uh Oprah Uma joke Letterman did at the Oscars but so like 30 years it's hard to believe but it did happen it is and I'm now 76. can you believe it I can't I mean you look great yeah well I feel good but but as friendly pointed out when she was sitting there like people only say you look great when you're older and it has to be right and it's never it's assumed when you're 30. okay so like 1993 you and I unplug incorrect of course I can't remember any of this because you know all these Club cigarettes but I don't remember what the conversation was like you might remember it better but like the version of ourselves that was there in 1993 like what would you say about that whole concept of like Evolution I mean this you're the perfect person to ask it's like are you are you just a slightly different version of your 1993 self are you a completely did you shed many snakes uh skins not that you're a snake uh like tell me about what your thoughts on where we are as the river passes under our seat it's a very interesting question because you know now at the age of 76 as I confront the final chapters even though I'm healthy but you know the last curtain will soon no I'm kidding no I mean you don't look like you're in the Final Chapter well in my tradition bill first 25 years of life is education second 25 years is fame fortune and family which I did third 25 years is giving back then the fourth is actually preparing for deaths and finding yourself questioning I'm answering your question about identity I've come to the conclusion there's no such thing I mean he said what is your identity fertiliz egg zygote embryo baby toddler teenager young adult mature adult guy with Alzheimer's which one is you I mean which one is situated on a bad ending I mean first you've seen fixated on a bed no no I'm not because my tradition actually you prepare for a happy ending you a happy ending that would be a good ending and that happy ending is a massage parlor you have a party yeah you celebrate you say goodbye and you're not there you close your no no you know when you're gonna die oh yeah no you don't I do you do of course I plan to die in meditation you know yeah how do you think you know because I'm self-aware because yourself will work you know I could take offense at this kind of stuff I don't because I like you I look forward to this chapter for thousands of years no the part I could take offense about is the part about I know things you don't no I have powers of knowing no no no no no no no I'm sorry Deepak I love you but like you don't know things I could not possibly know I know the statistical likelihood of women knowing I know that too I can read that I can tell Google everything Vision mathematics you know what year you're gonna die and you [ __ ] don't you could die living in this room okay or you could die in 30 years I'm not yet argue with you I'm just here to say okay that I'm in my final chapter and I'm first of all forward my life okay look I know you're probably not like caring about this but um maybe you would more if you were single it matters more perhaps then but there's nothing about you I just saw you I haven't seen you in all these years I saw you standing over there you were backwards to me when I first walked in and I was like where's Deepak because I didn't think that was you because you just don't look old you don't move old you know you don't have an old energy about you so until you do let's not shovel dirt on the grave I mean look death is always looming I I agree I'm 67 that's not young um there's been a lot of Death Around Me Lately uh people I know who've died so it's it's been on my mind and look my four quarters of life may be different than yours uh giving back I think is great the fourth one I'm more into like 75 you know I think that's when I'm going to start with the Viagra I I know but um but when I look at death and I do you know yes you're right when you're our age you are aware of a monster chasing you maybe you don't look at it as a monster I do because I don't want to die because I'm having a good time but it all has to do with identity meaning what dies what dies you mean what dies when you when your body dies right because you believe that the the spirit is living on well I believe that there's a fundamental reality that transcends what we call the body and then the mind and the experience of this and this is obviously a lucid dream it's not even real if I ask you what happened to your childhood you'd say it's a dream but what if I ask you what happened to this morning it's a Dream by the time you hear these words they don't exist so the whole thing is I uh I mean you know women Shine the German philosopher he said our life is a dream once in a while we wake up enough to know that we're dreaming so this fourth chapter is about waking up from the dream I would say two things there one and I mean this in a in a very complimentary way but I don't know I don't know what the hell you're talking about because I don't know the thing about it this might clarify things for you but if you took something like are you a fan I'm the biggest promoter of psychedelics in the world today promoter I mean you're holding no no no no no uh the scientific research and the public awareness of the value of psychedelics let's open a store together let's open this door and I'll support the research because you're also a capitalist let's not lie I mean how many books have you written 90 something 90 something yeah 90 yeah holy [ __ ] from China that's a lot of books that's like since since what year when was what year was there because it's got to be like two a year 1980 was my Facebook wow this is like Elvis used to put out albums like this like just a lot of material let's talk about you're getting high would you like some no not right now I'm already sewing I'm stoned with life because it's just a dream life is just a dream you know when I was 17 just It Was a Very Good Year it was the most amazing year because I had just in India you enter medical school after two years of pre-med not four years so I was only 17. I joined this very prestigious School funded by capitalists Rockefeller and American institutions doesn't make them bad and we had Harvard professors and so my first year of medical school I was asked to participate in an experiment with controls so students from Harvard students from my class and we all took LSC twice so the my first experience at the age of 17 was anxiety because the same question came up what is life all about is it a dream right am I in a lucid dream in a vivid now and I was anxious but then I tried it again and this time and this really altered my entire life this time what happened is they had subjects under experiment taking LSD but doing different things so you know listening to music dancing smoking maybe other stuff I was assigned to look at a poster of Mother Teresa and this is remember the year is 1970 one okay and I'm looking at this poster who worked in India right Mother Teresa was in it yeah yeah she was in India I mean she wasn't Indian but that's where she heard that Ministry and the rumors the gossip was that she kissed children who had leprosy and licked their wounds and they would be healed now I didn't believe any of that but looking at the poster and under the influence of LST I had the most intense experience of compassion and it changed my entire trajectory of life I wanted to be a Healer and a compassionate doctor just from hearing this story just from hearing about it I'm watching the poster and being under the influence of LSD but also knowing that she had licked these people's feet of course now you always say no 71 we are in 2023 so this is over you know over 50 years over half a century now we know epigenetically epigenetically that emotions and this has been my life's work that emotions influence everything in their body we pretend to be rational creatures we are bristling with emotion we are full of rage anger resentment guilt depression yes and but we also have access to the opposite and this biological function your biology changes your brain changes every time would you ever meet Mother Teresa once you did you actually met after this afternoon and what did you say to when you say I'm a huge fan um your feet looking changed my life do you know wound licking wound licking right anyone can lick feet the pope does that okay wound like yeah that is some serious uh compassion but did you know this about Mother Teresa first of all when she died she only she left her two possessions she had a blanket and a bucket and Biden tried to tax the bucket no I don't know why uh California would but not the other thing is you know that she had a crisis of faith of course if you don't have a crisis you're not human okay but do you remember what year that was just before she died I wonder it worked a bit before she does I thought it was something like 79 but I could be wrong no I think later than that listen Jesus had a crisis of Faith who the guy who started the whole thing the whole thing what do you mean start he started a joke no actually there are three pivotal moments in his life which I find very interesting the first is he falters when he's carrying the cross and Joseph well he tripped he trips across Joseph tries to help him and he says no I must bear my own cross he has this crisis of faith when he says why did you desert me okay and number three forgive them for they know not what they do sure those three are very pivotal moments in a person's existential Dark Knight of the Soul that's interesting uh first of all the what you the second one you cite is only in one of the Gospels it doesn't matter we don't even know who wrote the gospels the whole thing doesn't matter because it's all a fable but everything is a favor oh Jesus your your job is right actually I'm I'm having a crisis of Faith right now no but oh Mother Teresa so I I thought it was so interesting whatever year it was Mother Teresa who by the time was super famous as like the ultimate Saint on Earth and she has this crisis of Faith oh no no I know what it was after she died she left a very specific request do not print my letters the second she done printed her letters and that's where we found that's what it was we found out that when she did die she had a crisis of Faith there was a year she was just like drunk dialing old boyfriends uh she started stripping under the name original I don't believe that no it's a joke okay so let me ask you this because you seem to know a lot about Jesus I've written three books about Jesus well two about Jesus but not as a Christian well I've written books on Muhammad Jesus but you are brother you're not a Christian all the prophets of the Old Testament and all the you know luminaries in spirituality Through the Ages answer the question come so you're not a Christian now I don't think Jesus was a Christian he wasn't he was a Jew we know that's right okay so why are you avoiding the question I'm not I yes or no sir I don't belong to any religious institution that would have Dogma or or you know I think what you call uh religious morality is just jealousy with the hero it's that domain of cunning Hypocrites but there is a certain kind of morality that comes from authentic experience of transcendence and there's an emergence of platonic values like truth goodness Beauty yes we need love compassion Joy empathy Equanimity and the loss of the fear of death well you know that is that is the essential spiritual experience platonic values that's a nice thing I I'm gonna sign on to that one well the Ultimate Experience is set up that job and let's see is uh not fearing death right because I don't think I'll ever get there like I said I see it as a monster that's chasing me and some people's way to deal with that is to yes to not be afraid of the monster anymore my way to deal with it is keep running yeah but there comes a point then you will not be able to run so I hear that is stalking you but you're the one that's true is the method of execution and the length of reprieve you're right you look behind you the prince of death is there look again he's closer so be get on with it accept it all right you know I was seven years old this is a very two important stories I'm telling you one of Mother Teresa but the other one is when I was six and a half my father was in England and one day I was with my grandfather and my grandmother seven years of age my little brother then was four and a half years of age he later became the dean of education at Harvard Medical School my younger brother [Music] you and your brother agree on all this because he seems to be he now agrees with me he now agrees with it a little bit a little bit so listen to the story I will we get a telegram that my father has been inducted into the Royal College of Physicians which by the way I was recently also very prestigious so my grandfather who is an army Sergeant from the first world war really yeah he climbs up goes up to the rooftop fires a gun into the sky to celebrate that was his thing as one does yeah me and my brother um to see a movie Alibaba and the 40 thieves only problem and the 40 thieves then he takes us to Carnival then he takes us to a restaurant he's so happy and excited and in the middle of the night he dies and my memories I am being carried by the servants to a neighbor's house and I can hear the Wailing of women in the house grandparents Etc grandmother next is second to cremation his ashes are brought in a jar about this way and one my uncle says what's a human being yesterday he was with these kids celebrating and now he's a bunch of Ashes wow and I had my first existential crisis yeah okay and my brother started to lose his skin and what my grandparents still gives her skin they started peeling off like a snake skin what yeah and he had bleeding scars and they took him to every doctor nobody could diagnose till some local healer said he's missing his parents he's feeling vulnerable and as soon as his parents come back he'll be fine and so it happened so in retrospect that was mind-body medicine I certainly believe in the mind-body connection I'm always preaching about people if you don't you can't wiggle your toes yes but but way further than that I believe that medicine the way we practice medicine in America I'm a major critic maybe that's something I think where we're very aligned business it's not a it's a business I mean not that there aren't good doctors and thank God that they have a lot of things that they do have that I hope I will never have to Avail myself of but Western medicine is best at like it does nothing to keep you healthy it's great at the last 11th Hour of saving you from dying that day and it doesn't prolong life no it prolongs misery right it very often does and they do not take into account what you're talking about the mind-body connection and I I predict in the years to come the mind-body connection will be seen as a major part of diagnosing somebody instead of just looking at a chart the way Western medicine does it if they can't quantify it on a number on a blood test now blood is important we see what's in your body but it's not the whole story and it's not everything is on that blood chart the same is not everything that an athlete does is in the Box Score there's a lot of different ways to win a game wait that's Bob Costas it's next no uh but uh yeah I think we could agree on that that the mind can has and the unconscious the unconscious I've just the last year or so I must say I feel like I'm much more aware of the tricks my unconscious is sometimes playing on me or what's or the connection between my conscious and unconscious in a way I never was earlier in life Marsha's National nutrition month and hellofresh makes it easy to choose delicious dietitian approved meals somebody look for The dietitian win tag on their menu choices for meals under 700 calories and with one-third less sodium with the cost of groceries going up and up and parking lot rage at all-time high now is the perfect time to get started with hellofresh hellofresh is cheaper than grocery shopping and 25 percent less expensive than takeout hello fresh has 40 weekly recipes to choose from all meals for All Occasions Lifestyles and preferences delicious dinners are easy with hellofresh's Chef crafted seasonal recipes that come with ingredients already pre-proportioned so all you have to do is cook and enjoy no matter your lifestyle or meal preferences hellofresh has recipes sure to please everyone at your table hello fresh knows you're busy that's why they take care of the meal planning and prepping freeing up extra time in your schedule with pre-portioned ingredients foolproof recipes and convenient Doorstep Delivery hello fresh makes it easy to get dinner on the table the delicious and healthy dishes at hellofresh save time for my entire staff and makes cooking so easy and fast I know because I heard the woman who cooks for me tell the guy who cleans the kitchen go to hellofresh.com random60 and use code random 60 for 60 off plus free shipping that's hellofresh.com random 60 and use code random 60 for a 60 off plus free shipping hellofresh America's number one meal kit do you like True Crime podcasts ID has a new original True Crime podcast called why can't we talk about Amanda's mom in November 1993 a man discovered the body of Renee Bergeron on the side of a service road in Mobile Alabama and despite the horrific nature of her murder the case got little sympathy in the press and the detectives failed to close the case now 30 years later host Sarah Kayleen is investigating the case by digging up new evidence and interviewing suspects all in hopes of finally finding answers and closure for Renee's family listen to why can't we talk about Amanda's mom wherever you get your podcasts see 1998 I remember this very clearly as a physician I told a patient I said Mrs Smith I was looking at a chart I'm very sorry to tell you but you have cancer as soon as I said that I saw his body language change you know kids face crumpled I couldn't bear this blood pressure has gone up yeah a good guess that is platelet so sticky that his body was inflamed that his adrenaline was high and his cortisol was high yeah well you just told the dude he's dying yeah then the next second I realized I was reading the wrong job okay so I said I'm really sorry but this isn't your child and immediately he changed right like this okay but this is so his biology shifted from this to this yes and you're right with one sentence or one word cancer yes that's absolutely the nocebo effect yes absolutely Placebo I think what a lot of people don't realize is that before like 200 years ago what they only had was the placebo effect mostly because they didn't dismiss it the placebo it's not something to be this no I'm backing up is it biological I'm saying 200 years ago they didn't have antibiotics they didn't know [ __ ] if they if the if the doctor or this crazy person said okay I'm gonna put these worms up your ass and it's going to help people actually thought it did and they did some did well I'm telling you that it was the main way of curing [ __ ] was just having the patient think what they were doing you have to ask yourself what's the biological mechanism right if you're a serious scientist you have to ask these 30 percent of people respond to placeables what's the biological mechanism so this is what I found out earlier you know I've been at this game for a long time now yes so if you give a placebo which is supposed to be an analgesic to a patient and you say this will leave your pain but before that you give them something called Narcan which is a narcotic antagonist they don't get the relief right so they're actually making opiates when they believe okay so they're going to get relief of a pain but the placebo acts not just in pain it acts in other diseases so there's a biological mechanism that converts an emotion into a molecule and that is what was my field was right my entire field was neuroendocrinology yeah that's so interesting and I and I'm I'm down and speaking of conversion let me let me ask you this master 30 years ago you call me Swami Swami is that bad no it's okay these days I thought it was a term of uh honor uh yeah but you have to have the necessary uniform you do like the pope you know swamis have uniforms too all right well I'll just call you a master so Master is it too late for me I mean I would think that of all the people you know I would be the hardest one like they can't uh hypnotize me like some people can't be hypnotized I've wanted to be hypnotized and just some people just have a mind that I don't know just works differently so you know I would like to get over this you know fear of death and stuff uh do you think that there is hope uh the way you're looking at me I don't like the word hope hope and plays despair you have to be in independent of both hope and despair and you will lose your fear of death if you find out your true identity I'm lost already you have my true identity what I I that's my idea like I might meet Superman yes is a fictional character in a collective Dreamscape get over it get over the idea the build Mark wow it's real so you know a fictional character and a collective Dreamscape dies it's not a big deal you have to find out who is pretending to be Bill Maher okay so let's say I sign on to this yeah how does it actually help me to think of myself as a fictional character because then you say who's the real character I don't know but can we sell the fictional one to Pixar yeah you can do anything with the pictures uh erudite man I think could be okay maybe not the biggest uh the world's stage where every man must play a part and mine a sad one that's what he says in in The Merchant of Venice right and graciano says let me play the fool with myth and laughter little wrinkles come and that's my liver rather heat with wine then my heart grown with modifying groans wow you know your Shakespeare what does that to do with what we were talking about I don't care because you're right now playing the part of building oh I see I'm playing the part you are God in drag okay basically Maybe [Laughter] he was at a Christmas party of mine in 1992 and he burned a hole in the chair he accidentally with a cigarette and so Einstein's there too no just a cigarette no and then he signed we knew the chair was useless so we signed it yeah it's awesome it's one of my favorite pieces the word that we are all God in drag was that's great that was phrase that phrase was used by Timothy Leary's [Music] no don't give me credit oh for forget for giving him credit for sure I mean God in drag no it's a great phrase but I don't know if that really is me um but let's say I'm playing this character um which is might say a little bit crushing because my whole life what I've tried to do and I feel like I've reached a pinnacle of it with doing what I'm doing right now on this podcast is be the opposite of that for a world that was drowning in [ __ ] and television which was also fairly well drowning then then people who are just phony I mean just part of the job but I was like can you be authentically yourself and you're telling me no we're all phonies but someone more authentic ponies than I think I'm better at it yeah um but there may be truth I mean I would certainly say that everyone lies even people yeah do you think you learn themselves to themselves yeah but have you mastered not doing that or are you still doing it I'm aware of it you're aware of all the lies you tell yourself I am aware of what it is yeah absolutely you do yeah and then when you get mad at yourself no I just say maybe despair next time I'll put the pause button before you speak oh you say things tumble out of your mouth that you regret once in a while let's see wow press the pause button what's your reaction to it you know but if you just watch your reaction to react it kind of but you don't see a difference between you at 30 five I don't know of course I see I used to fight and argue and write to debates and be defensive and attack people you did of course and that's what you did after going to medical school okay but then once you started becoming the person we know as as the the master the guru I never called myself a guru if you ask me spell it for me spell the word r g-u-r-o-g-eg-g-u-r-u slowly g u r u r well that's a guru i g you I mean that is it's just a coincidence right but that's clever gee that's kind of that's kind of cool who wrote that that's Deepak Chopra you did yeah God bless Tupac after all these years okay so uh Scientology that's my other I could either go your way I'm making a decision no probably over the weekend I might take all week I've got I've got some brochures I've got your people and I've got the Scientology uh I'm kind of on the fence now and this is a hypothetical yeah it's hypothetically come to a week with me on something called the longevity Retreat since you're so if you're full of death really and it'll cure me and uh how much is it there's two things that'll happen one is you lose your fear of death and the second thing is you will you will be a healthier person at the end of it really yeah um seriously have you been circumcised no that's for you guys no it was just every time I pick up these scissors I feel like I should do a service for the you're not circumcised oh my God it's so disgusting I don't know how you actually I'm on a campaign right now globally to help eliminate this cruel custom of fatal female genital mutants well that is horrible that is happening of course you know of course so at this moment I'm a global campaign you're going to make a lot of The Usual Suspects very angry with that because that becomes a religious thing it's a cultural thing which is outmoded it's not well it's a cultural thing basically it's not religious there's no religious cultural Islam from religious all religion all religion is cultural mythology yes but that religion is more fundamentalist in other words I like offend you fundamentalists in Hindus you can join them okay and you can find them but numbers matter numbers matter you cannot find as many fundamentalists there are I think 10 countries that could be wrong that's the last time I read it who's they have Islamic in the name of the country like the Islamic Republic of Iran that's very different you cannot imagine America as off the track as we've gotten being called the Christian Republic of America although that is exactly what Marjorie Taylor green wants yeah well that's disgusting but I can tell you something I have spent a lot of time in Islamic countries in the Middle East in South how the I've even been to around Turkey and I think sometimes we give a very bad rap to the majority of people who are actually very reflective I recently was in Dubai and went to meet the minister of AI and minister of what artificial intelligence because I've waited Dubai in Dubai and so I go to minister of that they have a minister of AI they have a minister of Tolerance they have a minister of happiness and they may have a minister of forgiveness in Dubai oh Mister okay so I I listen to this I go to his office and the reason I'm visiting him I've created an AI chat bot you did I did to eliminate or actually help people with suicide ideation so we have a chat bot I have a I have a non-profit organization the robot talks out of it robot talks to you and teenagers are more comfortable talking to the robot because they don't feel judged [ __ ] it hey okay and it has intervened in 6 000 suicide really is talking to 20 million people simultaneously wow and now we are creating cryptocurrency to pay for it for people who can't afford it even for counseling so I went to a to the minister of AI in Dubai said you know this is a problem everywhere it's not that depression is everywhere it's the number one pandemic is not is not covid-19 the number one pandemic in the world today is mental illness and depression and every 40 seconds somebody's dying okay so I agree so I go to his office and you know he's wearing the traditional Arab dress and his assistant has a hijab and he she leaves and then the door is closed he says we'll talk about what you've come for and I had come to for his help to create the chatbot in Arabic Suicide Prevention wow and so before we start that conversation he said Dr Chopra may I ask you a question we'll talk about the AI later I said sure he said why do we exist I'm perpetually surprised that we exist then you asked me about pieces I have a place in the desert will you come tonight so we can watch the Stars and at least be Wonderstruck and in bafflement of our existence if you're not perpetually surprised by your existence you don't even deserve to exist so this was the conversation one hour went by his assistant came she said you have five other appointments he says cancel them I'm enjoying this conversation in the end he says so what do you want I said I want to create an AI for suicide prevention he says done like this I have to tell you like your life is so different than mine I I have to like just stand back you know a little bit because my life is really so provincial and I do the same things like things I like but they're just not like like inventing [ __ ] and then going to Dubai and talking to the minister and you know I just don't have this life and at 76 really you don't look it and to be like yeah like it seems like nothing is slowing you down the secret is joy is the only measure of a good life I know but what get but it's so I start every day joyful energetic body love and compassion clear mind and lightness of being all right but it's like the things that give me joy are you know I I don't as long as I'm guilty about them I'm not guilty at all then you're all saying oh good thank God oh I'm gonna enjoy this course because I thought I was gonna have to like change my whole life yeah is that's that's the judeo-christian yeah institution no I'm not guilty at all no no I have no I've made so much money I mean when I say no Omni institutions make money on confession we all have regrets I mean life is I I've said this a million times but when people give these interviews and they very often say no regrets and I think who the [ __ ] are you you can't be human every day is a regret of some there's not one day that goes by that I don't think oh I wish I'd put the tea kettle on five minutes ago or whatever it is like who walks through life no regrets and I'm still having regrets and I you know so yeah I have lots of things that you know it's like like honesty but yeah the difference anything that happened in the Dreamscape you don't do you remember what you were doing last Thursday at five o'clock in the evening do you even remember what you were concerned about yes I do and I remember things that I would have rather have done differently when I was younger that were sometimes schmuckier or selfish or something nothing horrible but like we all just are going through life and especially when we're young we're scared and it's like oh is this guy going to take my slot or whatever it is so you know you maybe have sharper elbows than you would like you're not as accomplished in life you don't you don't have all that anxiety off your shoulders but am I going to be a success or not and I know you you're looking at me like oh these are all ridiculous concerns I'm sorry I'm a human okay these are my concerns most humans have become biological robots triggered by people and Circumstance into predictable outcomes and so there's no self-awareness and there's guilt and there's shame and there's humiliation and there's hostility and so anger and there's war and there's terrorism and there's equal destruction that there's Extinction of species and poison in the food chain this is an insane Society I know it's totally insane and if you don't agree that it's insane then you're declaring your own inside quit trying to cheer me up I take your point oh look I've forgot him to laugh so like what about your you're you're married right yes we say yes like like it's crazy not to be married but I don't know the secret of marriage I didn't ask but I'd love to know not that I'm going to use it no you're not getting married oh I'm okay with that too yeah I'm two for two so I think first of all get rid of the notion that there is anything such as lifelong romantic uh infatuation this one this is a hill I will die on this is a hill I will die on arguing with you because I think that is so it could not be more the opposite of how I think it's it's it's nothing like that maybe it's nothing for you infatuated intoxicated experience that you have that you call love is not love I know but it sure feels good when you have it yeah well I will chase that drug until the monster gets me yeah alcohol is not love how can you compare them anything that you become dependent on limits your freedom so let me say this little story um so whatever is going to complete that sentence the secret of a happy marriage is love each other irrespective and no judgment well you know what you said was don't expect it to be romantic all the way through which is exactly what happens in marriage and and yeah and die on that deal of avoiding that yes and I won't go into any more detail than that but I hear you it is much more than a romantic infatuation love is absolutely well there's something in between infatuation and the kind of love that takes place in a stale sexless marriage I'm sorry it doesn't have to be still it's just a joke it's a turn of the phrase listen but here let me just see you've got this attitude that some things are sacred and some things are profane well something and some things are carnal and some things are spiritual when it's all one thing now that is now that certainly is a kind of reflection of a basic philosophy that goes back to many ancient philosophers of Oneness that we somehow achieve happiness but life is all about the the diurnal and it's all about the duel everything is divided imagine at the same time that's why we're unhappy because there's always this tension like marriage is a perfect example the tension in all of life with people believe me I've lived with this tension and tried to deal with it many different ways is between excitement and security at first you have excitement and it's fantastic then after a while that is not so exciting but you have security with someone I mean trust me I've gone back and forth on this my whole life security the search I like that one the biggest cause of insecurity is that search for security well I I mean security you know security get this nut out of here you know the real excitement I didn't tell you this is when you don't anticipate don't regret don't resist go with the flow so listen to this no resistance to existence never mind I'll do mine no no go ahead um I want to plug your things um no I want to because I know it's all about you know making we're all in a dream but as long as we're in the dream I'm probably making myself be making money right nobody likes poverty and you I mean I bet you you're worth if you have 93 books you must you must be if you know how much you want then it's not enough and you don't I don't care you don't know how much you're worth I don't look those people say I'm worth a lot come I'm sorry I'm glad then that's and you couldn't even put a ballpark number on it no because I have watched people look at the stock markets and they totally get confused okay with network confused with self-worth I just wrote a book called abundance based on a lyric by Bob Marley who said some people are so poor all they have is money that is awesome I never heard that some people are so poor all they have is money that's genius yeah well deepak's episode is Saturday April 1st at the oh no this is me Saturday you're not going to be at the Paramount Theater April 1st in Seattle if we are we're [ __ ] because we're gonna have to do the act together that's me April 1st at the Paramount Theater Sunday April 2nd and the Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall in Portland I love these cities uh and the 22nd of April at the theater at MGM National Harbor Washington DC oh that's going to be good Deepak April 23rd oh no it's just it's me again April 23rd at the uh our Durham Performing Arts Center that is me right deep pack right maybe we should exchange rules you're not going to Durham are you I said you become the saint I'll be the sinner for a day um oh I also wanted to mention speaking of like religion and there's this podcast my friend Barry Weiss is Free Press people put out called the uh Witch Trials of JK Rowling I would recommend it Holly is he recommend podcasts but um what happened to her was pretty amazing so I won't say any more and spoil it but it's it's one of my favorites and uh years ago on Politically Incorrect I tried to do a sketch called Harry pothead oh really and they wouldn't let us do it we had a screaming match with dissensors at ABC this was 1997. and just a sketch called Harry pothead was too touchy for them that's where that's where they were with marijuana in 1997. so the idea that you know we don't change that the country doesn't change that there's no progress is so insane to me and that's what I feel like so many people so many of the woke they want they so badly want to be Warriors social justice Warriors that when things have progressed so much they feel like they're cheated out of being there to like go kill that terrible evil Injustice and it's like a lot of the injustices not all of them of course we still have a lot of work to do you know we've slayed some dragons and they they don't want to admit that I don't know why I'm telling you this but where are you on like woke [ __ ] you know everybody's doing the best they can from the level of awareness yeah well that sounds like a backhanded uh insult and I sign on to it yes everyone's doing as good as they can with what they know even Putin yeah I might get might think on Putin is if I was uh Freudian analyst he's probably important and he's taking his rage out well at least what I would say I mean Pride would say he's stuck in the first chakra I think he's stuck in the KGB you know I maybe I can't like maybe think on your level but I think there's something to like being indoctrinated from a young age into a system as he was with the KGB you know I've been to the Soviet Union many times that was trendy with uh Khrushchev in the days when it was still Soviet Union no sorry who am I saying um he just passed away um I was close to Gorbachev and I could say spend time with Gorbachev and uh in those days the rumor had it that you know when uh Ted Turner and Jane Fonda were starting CNN well Jane Ted did Jane and Chad did not start CNN together I loved him to all due respect he did not have anything to do with starting so okay but they were traveling together and rumor was gossip local gossip was that Putin was their chauffeur every time and he was actually working for the KGB even then oh my God where was this in the Soviet Union Gorbachev days Putin so Ted Turner was in Moscow to set up CNN and Putin was spying on them that was the gossip oh my God that has that has to be true I love it although he was yes so there are photographs of uh apparently of him but it's special for uniform it could have happened but he wasn't stationed in Moscow he was the Berlin the reason why he rose so fast is he had the plum KGB assignment which is Berlin Berlin was always the flash point in the Cold War okay the most important city between East and West I'm just saying these were rumors I know okay so tell me what I I thought I had things to plug for you I'm happy to do it so is there anything you you have a new book but what is it it's called tell me living in the light yoga for sure generalization show it to me read it to me master no I don't need to read it to you no but I mean and your books are all over the world right yeah they're in many languages over 50 languages here wow living in the light how did how is it possible that after 92 books you hadn't used that title yet it seems like it would have been like third in line living in the light it's like I wasn't prepared to write about what I wasn't totally experiencing well that's vague what are you saying and I'm living in the lights right now where haven't you been living in it for a while I've been talking about it really you graduate Seafood right fourth stage of life that's what science but that's what Scientology has levels well I'm I'm on Seton level seven I mean it's well one more and I'm on the bridge to total freedom you know you know this about time you know what Scientology I'm not I don't know them well but what they do do is I believe they they access your so-called subconscious mind and and then the program you basically they do a lot of scary things well what the first thing they do is get a lot of dirt on you yeah I mean if you ever uh are tempted to think human beings are bright just remember these people voluntarily sit down and sometimes these are movie stars who have a lot to hide you know we know who the movie star is scientologists are they voluntarily went on camera and said the worst things about them their own selves and what they've done and who they are and it's a form of confession right you couldn't go to your past and do this you're giving them you're giving them the gift of black male material on you voluntarily I mean that had you know the bottom line this the world is insane the world is insane well of course but we're all sleepwalking to Extinction right now we are one sleepwalking to extinction because of the environment you mean climate change right nuclear weapons cyber warfare yes and and what the phones and what the phones are doing to the minds of the kids yeah and lack of Vegeta oh yeah no we are definitely definitely the human species was an interesting experiment yes but it could have it's failing well I mean Homo sapiens which I don't know if folks realize how recent we are really homosexual only a couple hundred thousand years two hundred thousand years well that's a couple hundred thousand yeah Homo sapiens but up until 30 000 years ago there were eight different kinds of humans exactly we killed them all off and we're now and we're we've killed off most of the animals wherever we go the fossil record shows when whenever when humans came out of Africa and they were started population yeah we plunder right so what is the answer to this master Extinction no no they no that's what we're the answer human the answer to avoiding Extinction what is the answer to that Evolution that's living in the Life yoga self-realization honestly wow so the answer is your book no no okay my book is just one situation no wisdom traditions for thousands of years I mean I remember my friend Solomon rush dude you know Sal yeah he's the greatest yeah um I'm so sorry about what has happened yeah but you can't keep a good man down because he's he's not uh he's better this kind of ways is he is he able to speak and all that I'm reading his latest book by the way yes he's he's writing he's he's not morose he's uh you know it's uh this guy wasn't even alive when the book was written well I mean you know it's about religion we're talking about stuff that's not about religion well it is about religion yeah it's about it's about fanaticism well that's from a religion why do you have to deny that religion is a thing and there's a thing in this building it's religious ideology but if I say salmon Rushdie got stabbed by this guy who's just a nut job basically but it but you cannot deny that religion is in the mix here that is germane to the discussions somewhat nuts it's all a dream but the thing that sent this borderline personality over the edge with the [ __ ] knife in his hand was religion because he believed a certain set of bad ideas that's what religion is oh by the way that's 10 lack of Education cultural ignorance of other cultures this it's very complex it is complex and you're throwing it all into one big soup as if they all have equal weight and are of equal importance we have to have some kind of judgment but on the other hand you got you will never get rid of what ignorance other than but they fight it okay let me ask you this on a practice you bring in the life okay well speaking of darkness and not bringing in the light women who have a burke over their head how about that for not getting some [ __ ] light in your Darkness again if you actually you know I grew up okay wait let me just ask the question in cultural environments where women will Barca where women wear Bales hairdressers yes and they are if you look at some of the cultural nuances with that go with that it's extraordinary the whale is supposed to actually hide the beauty of divine feminine okay whatever and it's far back people write poetry about it okay so my question to you sir is you're like it's all the same this is to me an evil in the world they're forced to wear like especially the ones you see in Afghan but anything that is like a full head to toe and I've certainly read accounts from women who have escaped from that and they talk about it you have no idea how dehumanizing this can be because you can't hear people you can't you can barely see out they can't see you it is a way to rob a human being of the most basic Humanity the idea that progressives have a problem with this issue about islamophobia as opposed to look you either stand with the woman under that thing or you stand with the people oppressing her it's not it's not a giant lift to figure this one out so my question to you is that goes on in the world now a lot a lot of women are forced to wear stuff like that and I do mean forced even if they're brainwashed into thinking they like it which they don't of course I am one of the biggest spokespersons for women's rights in Iran at the moment okay at the moment on social media I'm one of the most outspoken people on that issue of women's rights and the whale in Iran particularly where they're being forced to and with with a lot of Cruelty but if somebody wants to make that choice on their own it's their choice right it's not usually their choice because it's in the culture and if you do stuff to Children which is called child abuse like that then uh they might grow up and they know no other way but it is the worst kind of almost horrible oppression and gender apartheid we fought apartheid why don't we fight this one and when I say that The Usual Suspects will say I'm an islamophob or I'm hating on it no no I don't go with that hating anybody I don't like the word evil I like the word ignorance as I said that ignorance recycles over and over it's power mongering influence peddling cronyism corruption power money all of that and that's goes with religious institutions but also goes with political institutions look at every single politician in my view is a gangster why all they're engaged in this problem and influence peddling cronyism corruption and money every priority I haven't found about maybe that woman what about in New Zealand or the prime minister of Ireland there maybe one not to accept it okay but like just take something like um Universal Health Care which um you know we never had and we still don't have but we got a lot closer in I think 2012 it passed so um the Affordable Care Act so like many many people who couldn't afford health care who just withered and died because they just you know I mean there are Michael Moore's movie shows somebody operating on his own knee and so forth okay politicians sat in rooms it was tedious and horrible and there was a lot of stale coffee and empty pizza boxes but they hammered out against a bunch of [ __ ] who didn't want to move forward on that at all and it took years and just painstaking work but got it done and then lots of these poor people were able to sign up for Obamacare and get it and not operate on their own yeah you didn't mentioned lots of people who just like things don't change because we wish them to or because we're philosophical about it they change for the better at least materially which affects how you you know if you're sick you can't really be a sound mind uh they change because like boring people it's called Evolution no nobly sat in boring rooms and got [ __ ] done it's Scarlet Evolution the old recycles but it also evolves and it takes time but somebody actually did that [ __ ] work don't they get some credit yeah they wanted the votes they what they wanted the votes from liberals they wanted the votes that's the only reason that's the only reason people have ideological I thought I was The Sinner that's the only reason they the Democrats passed health care I mean I'm a Democrat I'm a liberal but I also know that you know that that there are when you're in the politician yes power and and influence peddling come first sweetheart I'm very hard on the Democrat if you want to come into me about the Democrats being politics positions or being full of [ __ ] on a lot of stuff but they also do have more of the compassion Gene and the other side I think that there was a part of them that was also a lot of them anyway that was quite sincere about let's get some people who are suffering um I mean but you know essentially all right if you're into mystery school I'm with you even if you're a Republican and you know I think Republicans do have their mystery school it's called golf one thing I love about arguing with you is I know that when it's over you're like the last guy who's gonna like hold a grudge right oh no man I know I know but I'm just saying like I you know everywhere you go in the world everybody's always like master and Swami yeah so I just want you listen if you have a wife and you have kids you don't take yourself seriously again why am I always yeah about marriage and then everybody's like doing the jokes I should be doing yeah exactly exactly that's why I don't get married seriously because my kids and my wife will look up like that I think you know I do think there is something about being in an from an ancient culture you know your culture more ancient than mine and it just the generations do you know accumulate wisdom probably sort of in a I couldn't explain it in a scientific way but I you know the the vernacular would be it's in your blood or something but like there is just I feel like there's a wisdom and also this lightness you talk about like you're giggling the Maharishi used to always begin always like there's a lot of that in the Indian cultures like you know and that is a level I mean I can't deny that I think I would aspire to I'm not going to get there and I'm not sure I want to do it your way but whenever I've been in a state where I was like just giggling like on mushrooms would be a perfect example on a water slide it always makes me laugh like or just you know right after a good orgasm or something you're just like and you you're saying you can get this it's available in stores but but it's completely natural right it's totally natural yeah you know I'll tell you a very interesting episode with marishi yeah he once asked me to translate into English for an audience that didn't understand Sanskrit or Hindi a speech by a great Guru who was speaking in Sanskrit and the audience was all Western American European after five minutes of this guy speaking I lost him I couldn't understand a word he was saying so while he was giving his speech I gave mine and they gave us a standing ovation okay so after this Guru disappeared I apologize to marishi I said you know I'm sorry I had to give my speech I didn't understand a word he's saying he said no his speech was very good yours was very good too I understood his speech they understood your speech so what's the verse about [Laughter] did you ever see the concert for Bangladesh the church and George was a good friend of mine I'm sure before you environment in India together five years again a life I can't even imagine I got the same friends I never like go out of my comfort zone but when they did the concept of Bangladesh Ravi Shankar opened absolutely okay so the the Indian musicians are there this is Madison Square Garden in 1971 New Yorkers you know they think they're hip and uh the Indian musicians the Tabla and the satara they are tuning up it takes about five minutes and they finished then the crowd applauds and Robbie courses thank you very much since you enjoyed the tuning up so much all right thank you for coming thank you very much what is what does that mean which is the Divine in me

Channel: Club Random Podcast

Views: 187,084

Keywords: club random podcast, club random, podcast, bill maher, bill, maher, club random with bill maher, real time, real time with bill maher, Deepak Chopra, deepak chopra meditation, deepak chopra guided meditation, deepak chopra interview, deepak chopra morning meditation, deepak chopra 21 day abundance meditation, meditation, deepak chopra sleep meditation, deepak chopra healing meditation, deepak, inner path to wealth, mindfulness, deepak chopra 7 spiritual laws of success, Deepak Oprah

Id: SItuP45D4V0

Length: 67min 17sec (4037 seconds)

Published: Sun Mar 12 2023

Reddit Comments

[u/alexkarpovtsev]

enjoyed the episode. i like the variety of guests he brings on.

[u/icestationlemur]

Let me guess, quantum healing over vaccines

[u/trevrichards]

Yet another charlatan Oprah gifted the world. This clown, Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz, etc. Seems she never met a quack she didn't like. Deepak is an insufferable fraud.

[u/Raminax]

Even Bella Thorne was more coherent than this brainless bozo.

[u/Helhiem]

Maher was trying hard to complement him but Deepak kept going into non sense talk

[u/TheLawIsSacred]

Don't know anything about Chopra, but he's pushing Maher out of his comfort zone in a way many other interviewees have not been able to do.