Dr. Phil | Club Random with Bill Maher

love random I like your digs here thanks you know um I've heard you talk about the concept of man cave this is not a man cave because a man cave is something for a married man yeah I guess that's right this is his cave why do you have a man cave in here you do yeah and you think that this is necessary for a good for a relationship yeah I've been married 46 years so come on yeah that's so ridiculous 46 years that's amazing we've been together 50. calm the [ __ ] on yeah really how old are you you don't look 52. I was guessing you know you do look like you're in your 50s so no I'm 72. wow you look good for 72. you're very healthy you know I just had a total knee replacement eight weeks ago really yeah I hear that all the time and people say it's like the next next day you're like first two weeks or you want to go punch somebody in the mouth because it hurts well it's just irritating it burns and all that but I was back on the tennis court at three weeks and why why do you no I play basketball every day is my knee going to wear out and why it just happens because you you're if it hasn't yet it's not really yeah oh good yeah I mean if you've got cartilage in there and you're still running up and down the court you're good but I'm not 72 yet yeah but you're you're right weight you're in good shape you can run up and down before chances are you're going to be pretty good why you think it's because the knee goes when you carry too much weight well it's what you've done I mean I played football in grade school junior high high school college and then race Motocross poorly and I had no I was bone on bone and that sounds sexy yeah yeah it's not I guess I'm thinking of boning but um I must say I'm very flattered that you came here because you don't know me from Adam but well actually I do yeah yeah you you uh my son used to do your show a lot Jay that's not you I know I'm not gonna pretend like I've seen every Doctor Phil episode but that to me what almost makes your success all the more impressive to me because I'm always impressed when there's like something that like I did not even choose to know about but it becomes such a cultural phenomenon that I actually know a lot about it like I know a lot about the Kardashians and I don't never watch the Kardashians but there's something to that level of permeating the culture I've always thought shrinks were the craziest people in the world is that wrong well I saw a study a long time ago that said most and I don't know if it's was [ __ ] or what but it said an awful lot of people go into psychology originally because they're all screwed up and they think if they study it they'll figure it out and get better right and oh that's interesting I saw a follow-up that said did it work and it said not even almost so maybe we got a bunch of people that were right got into it for that reason and it didn't help them but I don't know whether that was I mean you know they say that some people can't be hypnotized and I feel like some people can't be shrunk like um I don't think I can be I know I can't be hypnotized because they've tried and I wanted to and I feel like when I the few times I won't go into detail but it didn't happen much when I was talking to a psychiatrist as a patient sort of um I just felt like I mean it was all I could do from stop busting out laughing out loud sometimes because I felt what they were saying was so Preposterous and just such guesswork like just yeah it could be it could be anything I you know just this uh always over trying to connect something or make significance out of something when I think a lot of things are just very random I didn't know that I don't know if they were really believing it what they were saying or they were just they just felt like I'm the doctor I'm the shrink I have to say something here to make this significant and it wasn't significant I don't think or we don't know and I also felt like uh you're telling me about me but of the two people in this room I feel like one of us has so much more information on who me is and that would be me yeah well you maybe were the wrong kind of person I mean there's different kinds of therapy maybe you were with a Freudian or something that was trying to talk to you about your mother or something it was yes well I don't know if the guy was a Freudian but he did connect some make a connection that was so Preposterous when I told them that I don't know how we were talking about this but uh my mother was in World War II as a nurse she was in London during the uh bee bombings you know when the Hitler sent the rocket the blitz you know and he somehow connected that to like I don't know but I remember laughing when I got in the car like okay it's Hitler's fault whatever I was talking about and uh you know that's that is my like impression of Psychiatry it's like whatever I say you'll try to make something out of it because you have to or else you're out of a job yeah I I was never that way no you're very practical that I know yeah I know a lot of 75 words I just try not to use them seems to me you can get help talking to anybody I mean you got a common sense mechanic working on your car and you shoot the ship with them and you know somehow another things start to get clear you go hey that makes sense and you walk away feeling better right you know there are some people in this world that have what I call Health engendering personalities and I bet you know people like that that you just feel better after hanging around with them or talking to them you feel better hanging around with them you feel better about yourself there are some people that way it could be the generator cleans up at the building it could be your buddy from grade school it could be your parent it could be anybody but they're just people that have that kind of personality that you feel better about you after being around them is that your wife I feel good about myself being with her she's pretty easy to hang with no but she makes you feel that this this quality you're talking about I noticed you left out wife in the list you mentioned the janitor first yes I know but like that I would I it could be anywhere but I would rather it if I was married I've never been married that's a very big difference between us yeah you want to talk about that yes I do I mean I but look I'll tell you I've said this before but like people think I'm anti-merge I'm definitely not anti-merge I understand marriage works for some people it's just we're different personality types what works for you doesn't work for me I'll be honest I don't understand it but that's because I'm in my head that's why I can't understand it and I've read so many quotes about marriage like you know who is it that said uh it's like a sibling relationship with occasional bouts of incest have you ever been close yes you got close yes yeah but I always kept my toe out of the Trap because I felt like I don't want a sibling relationship oh that's with occasional moments of incest that that sounds terrible well starting to feel really bad about my I feel really bad about it now well Dr Phil you've come to the right shrink here because I'm gonna help you do you have a drink that you know you have okay and how many drinks do you allow yourself um of what well what are you drinking ice tea oh you're not drinking alcohol I haven't had a drink since the junior year of high school see if this was a professional show I would know something like that that's why I say it's not an interview because plainly uh I'm that's I should know that that's you my dad was a really bad alcoholic and I just made a decision early on ain't gonna do that and I have nothing against people who do my wife drinks my kids drink um right and I have nothing against it I just made a decision for myself I didn't I saw what it did to him and said I just don't ever want to go there and pot I'm guessing completely off the yeah yeah and you know some of my best friends are like Ron White's one of my best friends he he's actually sober now for almost a year but he's drinking and smoking dope all the time uh the whole time I've known him but it didn't bother me it's just Dr Phil we don't call it dope well I know is I'm like the last person in the world who does call it dope and I love to call it dope I think it's a great word for it the producers always tell me quit calling it like any drug to me is dope but very often I'll be like damn Where'd I put my dope um but you do on well first of all I'm sure you would allow as a man of science that this and alcohol are completely different drugs and one is much more benign which is the one I'm holding not the one I'm about to do yeah and together they're spectacular yeah it's whatever works for it okay so if you don't have the uh you don't have a drug element in your life to make you happy and um marriage okay but like come on like nobody married that long can have the kind of sex you had like when you're single or when you're you know newly you know newly uh entranced with someone so where does the judge in your life come from like is it all work is that what what what you know what gets your gonads gone adding well it depends on who you ask if you're asking me you get an answer different from my wife she thinks I'm a workaholic but right well then it's that probably answers my question you get it from work well no I do like I've been a jock all my life I play tennis like three 350 days a year uh really competitively I love airplanes I've been a pilot since I was a teenager um I I love flying I love all I got a lot of stuff that lights me up yeah I mean honestly I think all that stuff is sublimation for sex but that's me you know I like I always looked at society and thought Oh people are golf I mean no one really could enjoy it but okay uh I just feel like it's these things that people do to either get away from their uh spouse or because they're not getting whatever like charges them up in a marriage I I just not because the people aren't great people it's just because the idea of being with the same person um it's got to Rob a you of like something that was there at the beginning that you then have to watch die and then you get like snippy with each other even though it's not each other's fault because you resent that person from it's blocking that thing in your life that you know somewhere in your mind was the thing that at one point made you feel the best better than golf better than Bowling better than whatever [ __ ] thing is sublimating it well I still don't know why you haven't gotten married but I am fully understanding why nobody has ever married you I totally get that 100 do you really think they [ __ ] kill themselves do you really don't you really think a million [ __ ] haven't tried yeah oh I'm certain some of them have entertained it and then about a week into it thought oh my God trust me the reason I'm not married is not because I couldn't be married it's I mean girls always want to get mad you don't have to be doing anything that great they just like marriage I think that's half of them it's the wedding like they don't even think past like they just want that one day it's like because the wedding is fun marriage is hard you'll agree to that right I'll agree to that well see that's the thing well I don't want something in my life that's supposed to be the thing that gives me pleasure to be the thing that's hard I hear it all the time you ask people how's the marriage going first thing out of their mouth there's some variation of well it's a lot of work you know it's tough It's never like yippee yeah you know and why would I I don't understand why I would there's nothing I would trade for having to deal with that yeah well I I'll agree with you on this if you ever have to give up being all of who you are to be half of a couple bad trade bad trade wait say that again you got to give up being all of who you are right to be half of a couple right bad trade I don't want to do that right because who you are you and right when but what if you are God you like to drink and chase girls there's not going to be like another person probably who but if that's who you are and that's what you want to do then you're not marriage material I agree 100 oh I know when I was dating Robin she called me one time and said hey will you take me to my sister's house it's up in Oklahoma and it's like an hour away and I have nothing in common with those people and I said yeah sure I'll take you and then about 10 minutes later I called her back and said no I'm not going to take you and I I that's bait and switch because I ain't going to take you later so I might as well not take you now and what's more I won't take you I won't ask you to go with me to see my mouth breather sisters so let's just make a deal right now we won't ask each other to be tortured by our Rel our relative sisters right don't ask me to go see yours I want to ask you if you want to go see them go have a great time I'll see you when you get back and I'll never ask you to go see mine and we made that because I'm not gonna I don't want to go so why would I tell you now I will now this is an example of something where what you said before is very true to me that's exactly what I would say yeah exactly alike on that yes so why not say the same thing but wouldn't it be bait and switch if I'm courting her I say oh yeah come on baby I'll take you up there and then three months ever get married I ain't going see here's the thing about relationships and maybe this is going to make me sound selfish but the deal in a relation I've been in very serious relationships um the deal is that your problems become my problems and my problems become your problems and I find this to be bad on both ends first of all you can't help me really with my problems I know people think they can and yes it's is it good to have people around you who can tell you the truth and give you good advice I mean must be awesome to be married to Dr Phil it's like taking violin lessons from Paganini you know so okay uh but in my life yes people can reinforce you and they can hear it but basically again like with the shrink I know me best especially at this point in my life if I have a problem I know what the possible answers are I I can figure it out I you're not I don't need this other partner to figure it out on if the subject is me if the subject is a million other things yes maybe but on me trust me it's like I never understand why people sometimes argue with you about what you yourself believe you know oh bill you could do anything no I really can't yes you could Who would know this better I think me okay so they can't help me with my problems and honestly I probably we can't help you with yours either I I love it that when you get together with somebody you see each other at your best and you don't drag each other down with things that you're just really listening to someone you're not you're not helping and it's not it's and it's it's taking away from the thing being what it's supposed to be which is the source of joy in your life but you but yeah that's kind of true but in some in some respects but sometimes we don't see ourselves the best somebody might see things about you that you can't see you ever try to look at yourself in the face without a mirror you can't do it you're not fast enough wow well yes of course but somebody else can come along and say look you're being a dick here you don't want to do that and you go well I didn't really think about it that way they can give you feedback where you go yeah I hadn't thought about that even about yourself you're not all knowing somebody else can point something out where you go yeah I didn't really look at it that way that is true but I feel like I have again we're talking about me now at 67. this is something I would be more germane when I was 27 or even 37 or even 47 and I'm sure when I'm 107 I'll look back and think I'm a douche now but basically I can see a difference as I'm sure you can once you get past 50 you've probably seen most of everything that's going to come down the pike and you know you so well and you you feel you just feel yourself making better decisions about stuff part of it is you just don't have as much like God knows what running through your veins that made you wild when you were young you're just better so yes is it possible someone can look at what's going on in my life and make a great suggestion based on something I'm not seeing it is I can't remember the last time it happened and I have a lot of people around me I'm very lucky I've had the same some of the same people on my show for 30 years or almost 30 years that's uh and friends and you know you know how great it is when you're older that you accumulate friendships throughout your life and you and you have friendships that have been going on for decades so those people are going to be good people so it's not like if I didn't have a spouse there's nobody else who could tell me what's going on um so but do you listen when they tell you yes of course okay then there you go you do have people that give you I think a better thing to do is just don't act like you don't have to marry that I'm not I'm acting like I'm not acting like Kanye or something what some people need to break in and just have an intervention and tell me Bill would you stop ranting about you know space lasers I'm not doing anything weird because I was never a weirdo yeah you don't know that that's not why I'm here all these people could have got me over here to do an intervention I was gonna say all right Christian these guys could have got me in here to say hey you got to straighten this guy out well I mean please I why you I hate to be that guy at the party who says hey Doc could you look at my elbow right but like as long as you are here and I may never get the chance again please I mean have a shot at me I would love to hear you if you have any thoughts about like how I could be better or what maybe I'm doing wrong no that's why I said I I I'm I'm probably the last person to do it because I think we think too much alike I I watch all of your shows and uh oh good uh you watch none of mine so go [ __ ] yourself but maybe I'll start now well now you're going off the air uh bad timing you know did you know HBO Max had podcasts now go even deeper inside your favorite shows with audio companions to some of the most groundbreaking and award-winning shows on television succession is an original series from HBO and it's back for a fourth season every week you can join journalists and host Cara Swisher as she unpacks real world events that Echo The Saga unfolding on screen guests include top journalists writers psychologists as well as some of the people involved in making the TV show stream succession on HBO Max and check out HBO succession podcast on HBO Max and wherever you get your podcasts but what do you have a new show what's your new show going to be well I'm I'm just taking a break and then I'm starting back up in January of 24. yeah uh a little a little different spin what well you know and make no mistake I'm very proud of what I've been doing uh 21 years I've been dealing with it's awesome what you say you don't need which is given input to people on their lives and their marriages and families and parenting and kids and drugs and oh yeah you straightened out a million people even I know that yeah um but I I have different concerns at this point um uh I'm at a point in my life where I don't need to do anything so right I'm uh but I'm really concerned about what's happening in this country and that's what I'm going to start dealing with are the psychosocial issues you know there is you've got to do real time then yeah uh come on I was gonna do it a couple times last year and the schedule didn't work out that's what they always say when they just don't want to do it no that's not true okay uh they tell me okay but you got it but it's perfect to try it I was scratching on the door they wouldn't let me in no I promise you that's not the case I've asked for years no that's not true yeah you talk to my kid but not me you just you just said it was scheduled and there was a scheduling problem I'm not on your part yeah well I apologize about with the case and I I will fix this because I don't know where that wire got crossed so I'm you know I'm just a perfect show to promote your new show if it's if you're because that's great so get give me like can you give me your basic view the overview the 30 000 feet overview of where you think America is and I was headed for a cliff me too I think I think it's heading for a cliff and I'm and major reasons being [Music] well it depends on what category you want to talk about and look I'm I stayed I stayed non-political because I think there's idiocy on both sides there is yeah I see people in the State of the Union address on the right side of the aisle yelling liar at our president I'm I'm not a big fan of our president or the last one but I respect the Office of the President and to see somebody screaming liar this disrespects the offense I think the rest of the world's got to be looking at it going God but let's also pause a moment to say you put in the same breath you don't like this President and you didn't like the last one they are very different people and one of them is much more of a threat to the Republic and that would be the 45th would you not agree well come on threat to the Republic Joe Biden no Joe Biden is a return to normalcy yet a Democrat who is yes too much and sourceled by his Fringe left he will not ever tell them to sit down and shut up but I will take that bargain much as I don't like it and it's bitter I I will take that bargain over Trump come on well I'm concerned about both sides and I'm particularly concerned about this woke agenda this being pushed agreed right now I'm concerned about what's happening in American colleges right now my insanity if P I don't think people know I just don't think they know because I think and I don't know of course I have not been on campus but you can read so many first-person reports and you can see you can read that there's it's in the literature of what the the these universities say they're doing or in their curriculum I mean there is like hard evidence of oh yeah this is going on and then all the speakers that get chased off of campuses because kids they they're far from defending Free Speech they don't even believe in it as a concept they are so spoiled and entitled that they believe that their feelings far supersede this concept of free speech that is a complete decoupling of one of the utter basic principles that undergird this country right well let me tell you something there was a time where if I had two candidates sitting in front of me and they were exactly the same in every respect except one of them had a college degree and one of them didn't even if it was a degree in like art history or something it had nothing to do with what they were going to be hired to do and they were matched in every way I would hire the one with a college degree because I knew something about them I didn't know about the one that didn't what I knew was they could take on a four-year project and complete it they could meet deadlines they could get along with [ __ ] that they didn't like but it was their job to get along with them you know tough professors or whatever I I knew that about them that they could you know write papers and get things in on time do this do that that they could take it I don't know that about them anymore correct I don't know because they're coddles I complain they whine and and they still get pushed through and they're not required to take anything that is useful now some of them do we still have stem degrees and that's going up finally after years of not I think which is good but I mean you can graduate with such [ __ ] degrees of Sports Marketing and engender studies and advanced racist spotting and just this this insane indoctrinated I mean that is not an exaggerated term no it's not and they're so smart in what way just intellectually these are smart in terms of just capacity to learn it is continuing to go up these kids are smarter than we were well because they're not being challenged they're not they're not what they're certainly not wiser no if you I mean it depends on skinned maybe you're saying that there are cues are higher there are certain ways that they're smarter they're certainly more Savvy about um technology that we are not native to put it this way you can give them more digits and they and they can give them back to you in Reverse than we could they have more intellectual capacity they have more working memory they have more ability to learn in novel situations but they're not being challenged and why why has why have people gotten so much smarter in one or two generations well it's just the drift you know I I think they're getting uh the technology is stimulating their brains earlier I think they're getting more and more input but you do realize that when you if you we did a man on the street right now you're like I've done it okay like Jay Leno used to do with this jaywalking all right and if we just talked to if there was every time we saw a gen z uh or a young Millennial walk by in the sidewalk we stopped them and say would you answer a few questions we would find out very quickly that they know nothing they know nothing like if you said what year was America founded like what year did we declare independence they couldn't come up with that year even though it's a Broadway show which they also don't know what that is they just don't know anything we asked some the other day where where is the state of Utah located and they said Canada oh I I heard one when the they were the question they were asking is um I think where is Venice and the answers were like Paris you know like they don't even know what's a continent yeah like it's uh it it's frightening so I they may have the capacity to know but they're not putting anything in there and of course obviously there is a small percentage of kids no matter what you do the really Smart Ones will rise to the top and know lots of stuff and you know I I mean probably 80 percent of people under 40 are lost to me with doing real time because you to appreciate that show you have to know something I try to make the news of the week palatable in a very entertaining way so that I don't leave anybody behind but if you absolutely don't know anything it's like I'm speaking Chinese so if we're talking about NATO or what's NATO okay I'm dead already you know I mean I I not that we're going into late it's not Meet the Press we're not going into horrible detail about this stuff but they're just like when you are a tabular rasa it's very hard to like write well let me tell you uh Millions tens of millions of Americans cannot read at the most basic level right and it's like 24 of 8th graders uh 38 of fifth graders and you you can check those numbers it changes each year but can't read a basic sentence um and but yet they're getting pushed on grade to grade to grade and they can't read the right side bright side of that of course is that they don't need to because they don't read because they scroll the phone the portal to all evil has made Reading obsolete no one people used to say when they asked the question like what would you do if you had an extra hour in the day and they would almost invariably say I'd read if I just said an extra hour a day I'd love to and people did used to at least read a little at night maybe nobody reads I mean people ask me all the time why don't you do a book because no one reads that's why because I don't want to work on something that is not appreciated by a large number of people and it's just like a dead form to so many people and once you can sit on the phone and watch [ __ ] I don't know what they're watching on Tick Tock and dog videos and God knows what challenges and stupid things and scroll and shopping and it that that time suck was the worst thing that happened to humanity well until AI because I know AI is going to destroy us completely my prediction well I'm scared about that as well but like in 0809 it was like a big freighter airplane flew over the United States and dropped smartphones and at that point people stop living their lives yes and started watching people live their lives yes on the phone exactly and what happened is at that point they started comparing their lives to watching people live their lives and those lives they're watching being lived are fantasy so everybody started watching this Glamorous Life somebody's living they don't realize that that's all staged and so they compare themselves and by comparison they think God my life sucks and about that time we started seeing the biggest spikes in depression loneliness and anxiety that we've seen since we started keeping records right and you've been a good one to call that out and you you are right about that also with with me we're we're very much on that same page it's like seven times up for girls four times for boys right and and the pandemic made it worse and what bothers me is they shut the schools down and they shut the country down knowing that that was the state of our young people's mental health they knew that they were in Dire Straits and they shut down their world and isolated them knowing it was going to spike and they did it anyway you are what the hell is going once again we're on the same page there because I was a big critic of that and you know now the chickens have come home to roast who does that I mean they know that it's the highest level starting in 09 and 10. and they say well okay let's send them all home and isolate them who does it covered paranoids that's who does yeah we have a new breed of people and that's why I say politically I don't care because the Republicans started it the Democrats continued it and the kids and this remote learning crap if you look at some of the remote learning particularly for grades first second third they got zero out of it they got zero of it that means they're now way behind and if you're not reading on grade level at the end of the third grade your likelihood of dropping out is like 6X if you're in a low socioeconomic group so you may think that you're not going to be political but you're being political and and I think it's a good place for you to go well you know you can't avoid it anymore you can't avoid it and I need allies who are like where you and I are with yes both now again I I've come back to uh Trump you gotta like be on the page that he's worse than joking it's very different than Joe Biden come on Doug it's not the it's not politics that determine the outcome of society it's culture I don't care about politics you go back to the beginning and Democrat and Republicans have been in control about 50 50. they've had the control of the House and Senate while they were in control of the presidency about 50 50. they've had it not in control 50 50. and where and look where we are they both come up about the same place I don't care about that I care about our culture okay I'm disappointed that I can't get you to just out and out say that Trump is a completely different animal than the politics on the left and the right that we both agree is very uh lacking on both sides the question he is a completely different element and much more dangerous I mean we're talking about some sort of unnatural Predator that was introduced into this wild which was not a it was a jungle in the first place but this is a different element this is nobody else has ever tried to not uh concede an election in this country try to overturn election we all even the people in his own party understood was lost that is a Rubicon that we have crossed that makes him completely unique a unicorn if a unicorn was a big fat [ __ ] you you if I if I can't have your faith on that I I I it's very hard for me to understand where you're coming from on any issue I'm telling you you can't do it no no I'm I'm telling you this that's a cop-out what difference does it make hey he's not in power now B he's probably not going to be and see it doesn't let me let me ask you this wait a minute hang on hang on you've read 1984 how many times once you have a good memory I mean it was like college time but I I loved it and um I certainly remember the gist the ministry of Truth yeah and Oceana yes the government came in they saying there's we're going to tell you what words you can use we're going to tell you what words you can't use yes and we're gonna and if you don't do it right we're gonna unperson you I I I'm all up remember all that I know and by the way the the bite Administration actually tried to have this year a Ministry of Truth they almost called it was very close to it I can't remember the name it was close it was close and it was exactly what that is I agree but even beyond that let me tell you this do you think that's a bigger problem than Donald Trump no I don't because I don't think politics I don't think politics have have are the big problem what I'm telling you is this that's happening again but it's not the government doing it we're doing it to each other this cancer culture this cancer culture [ __ ] we're doing what 1984 had Oceana the government doing we're doing to each other I understand what's the culture that's the problem I mean you're wanting to say let's pick somebody and throw them against the wall whether it's Biden or Trump or bush or whoever that doesn't matter it's culture you know what one thing you have to have in a friendship and I hope we're friends now for a long time uh is the ability to air your differences and then just move on like this is what this is a microcosm to me of what has to happen in America you're Dr Phil you know you're you're you're legendary for being a guy who like fixes other people's problems a wise Elder and you are but I'm just not where you are and never will be on this Trump thing and you know where I am and that's okay and just like if we were in a marriage I assume we now just move on right I just know that about you it doesn't make me dislike you or it come close to hey and no it just is like okay that's where this guy is there's no Universal judge who tells us which one is right but we go on we just go forward knowing that we're not quite there on that let me tell you something about me yeah you want to know something about me I want to know everything about you okay uh uh and you can go back 26 years because I spent five years in the public Spotlight on Oprah right and in 21 years of my own show and in that time I have never um spoke ill of someone in the public eye I don't do it and I'll tell you why um and I'll give you an example like I was on I think it was Letterman or Leno the night after Mel Gibson had some kind of traffic Sugar mishap on yeah sugar tits Pacific Highway that's it and he said the Jews called all caused all the wars Kanye stole that from him in the in the in the world and they asked me I forget if it's Letterman or Lindo but he said well what do you think about that blaming all the wars the world on the Jews Mel Gibson and I said you know what I not his finest hour right but it's 3 A.M right he's out of the car he's drunk he blurts something out I would rather study the guys 50 60 years of life instead of judging him on 14 seconds on the side of the road I don't know okay well first of all so I I mean you know you're in the public eye and you say something stupid you have you have to expect to be trashed and you know we all had to turn in the barrel but to my point that kind of complements this look to say not his finest hour is a charitable way to say it but okay let's be charitable and just leave it at that moving forward could I be friends with Mel Gibson yes but just like you with Trump I put that in my knowledge basket like okay I know that Mel Gibson because I know first his father is one of those cuckoo Catholics so he has a thing about the Jews probably because he literally thinks they killed Jesus do I think that's stupid I do but like everyone has their thing I put that away and go let's move forward let's see I don't know that and I don't talk I don't talk [ __ ] about people well he individuals I just don't know about Mel Gibson but I don't so I wouldn't and if I did I wouldn't talk about it publicly well it's out of his mouth so that's how I know it yeah and I just no am I surmising that it his father he's such a super Catholic and you know they believe that the Jews killed Christ and okay I am but I mean it's not a giant distance from one dot to connect to the other on that one some people just don't like the juice doc I don't have to I know that's not like uh hold the presses but like a lot of people don't like the juice they the Jews always seem to get like a lot of animus when things get tense in the world they're always the kind of the go-to scapegoat yeah well I'm not one of those people no I understand you must love the Jews you must know a million of them I do and but I I just don't trash individuals I just don't do it it's just philosophy well I mean one man's definition of the word trash could be critique to put it in a more genteel way and if you're going to be commenting on political matters or matters that you know are essential to how this nation is functioning isn't it going to be impossible not to like to trash or at least critique individuals can we always keep it on such a general level well I don't know I like when I said yell and liar at the president I didn't even say who it was we know who it was I know but why why who are we kidding then why why it was bobert and and uh um Marjorie teller green why why are we protecting them I mean we I don't understand why what what this is buying you to like hold this oath to not uh hold accountable any individual for anything it seems like we're leaving out a big part of the equation well you don't need to understand it you just need to that's right I'm Dr Phil I got mountains of money and plenty of Fame you know you don't need to know anything son just pour me another drink and no that's true I mean but I guess what I'm saying is like I welcome your voice on matters of national importance uh in a more macro way it seems I'm guessing but it seems like this is the evolution of where you're going in television that you had 21 years when you you talk to people I mean you talk to mostly you know couples counseling that kind of stuff and like troubled teenagers and families and you know on a very individual personal level that that had ramifications because lots of people watching were going through the same thing yeah right and that was kind of every guess was a teaching tool right um now you're going to be painting on a broader canvas am I is that basically right well said I'll I'm going to steal that and take credit for having said it when you're not around but yeah you know it's like yes it's like now when I see uh what's happening on college campuses I said it it's when I I see all of this energy that's being put into pronouns like I said a third and eighth graders don't even know what a pronoun is right how about we teach them what a pronoun is and then we can decide if we're going to talk to them about reassigning them and I'm I I'm not saying that to be against transgenders uh transgenderism or whatever that word is I I saw I I was reading some stuff uh just yesterday that's going into a book you were just saying nobody will read uh and uh well your books right there are a few people who do sell a lot of books I imagine you're one of them I mean there are people who are selling the millions and I'm sure you are but it is very rare a novel sells 50 000 copies and it's a bestseller yeah fifty thousand yeah no I wouldn't do that no no I know but you know they have this big thing about the word thee you know they they don't it's not the homeless it has to be those experiencing homeless oh I hate that and they even said you can't use the word thee when talking about the French and the French Ambassador said what am I going to have the what is it Embassy of frenchness so I'm not changing the sign what are you it's gotten ridiculous it's so it's so beyond ridiculous and you know people are always saying to me Bill you know what happened you you make fun of the left so much more than they used to and I always have to tell them yes because there's so much more obnoxious and so much more ridiculous and not that most people on the left I think believe this stuff but the ones who don't my critique with them is your [ __ ] cowards because you know you know the insanity of your own Fringe but you don't call it out and my question is always like this stuff yeah I'm you're just thinking about like the the French or the experiencing homelessness why do we this is obviously something that teenagers put up on Twitter or Instagram or something why does the rest of the country actual adults bow to it and follow it and go along with it because everyone is rolling their eyes almost everyone except the [ __ ] 14 year old who posted that why do we follow teenagers it's like it's like The Emperor's New Clothes I mean you remember that Fable the the emperor's parading around in his underwear right and nobody wants to say it because only a fool would not see the clothes and then the little kid steps up and says oh the emperor is naked he's in his underwear or whatever everybody else is afraid to get labeled I I tell you we will get so much hate mail and tweets and stuff over our conversation right now [ __ ] them uh words right out of my mouth [ __ ] them I mean really first of all you I I will see none of it so anyone else they're hurting me with it you're not yeah um and you're just masturbating each other you know it's just a big circle Jericho virtue signaling and uh just people who I mean look doc you are never going to uh lack for uh fodder if you live to be a million because this country is so psychologically sick at its core I mean it's such a country full of Mean Girls snitches and [ __ ] and people who who haven't done anything but they just invent things so that they can catch other people not being as right as them I mean your example about the homeless is perfect liberals this is my thing with liberals and woke like you could believe whatever the [ __ ] you want if you're woke just don't claim you're some kind of a advanced liberal you're the opposite of liberal Liberals are the ones who came up with the term homeless so that people wouldn't call them bums and vagrants and hobos we did that we came up with homeless then they came along and said that's not good enough actually you people are the problem it's people experiencing homelessness you [ __ ] [ __ ] I you know that's the kind of thing that when people say why do you make fun to laugh because you just get under my skin like that do I think the right is more dangerous absolutely rationally I do does this stuff make you me viscerally hate more maybe yeah and and my point about that is if they took all of that energy and put it in to solving the problem right I yeah I think there are certain things that we have to change about our approach and this is where the psychological part comes in for me we've got to stop trying to win arguments and start trying to solve problems and that is a completely different mindset stop trying to win arguments start trying to solve problems and then all of a sudden we have to start talking you know what listening to you there made me think you must have thought about running for office because that I think is something that maybe TV you know like I don't have to say the name of that man Donald Trump to and Ronald Reagan also but especially Trump to uh make the point that you know TV is the best stepping stone to not just political office but the highest political office Trump won largely because he had this reputation as someone people had seen on TV for many many years on a show where he was highly esteemed and an authority figure and people listened to him and then when he rolled that into the presidency or to running for the presidency he already had this sort of Aura around him of this is a guy who should be the boss I've seen him be the boss and he really I mean and you're not Donald Trump I mean he's a [ __ ] and he's a dangerous narcissist you could like I mean you would start very high in the polls just to begin with but here's the problem when people label somebody a straight talker just because they can understand every word in a sentence the person says that doesn't make him a straight talker if somebody says make America great again and they go oh I understood every word in that sentence that doesn't mean they're a straight talker they just said a real simple sentence and connect with people something's gone way off something's going but it's that's not a straight talker that's just a simple sentence to speak to the least that's not a good idea it really doesn't answer my question about you getting into policy I know but it was a good deflection it was not because I caught it well no but it was a good deflection and no it was true okay and this is again making my point that you seem destined for politics because you know that's what you're going to do in politics look if you're a guy who doesn't want to ever uh trash anyone else I would seriously advise you and get about of getting into the Republican party because that party is all about trashing uh so you're gonna have a hard time there I mean they're all about the hate but you could be you you could be the kind of person if you would like relent a little on the Trump issue who could lead the Democrats back to the center where they need to be like you running as a Democrat is a republican you're dead because the Republican party is not not only is it the party of trump now it's the party of post-trump meaning like even if they got rid of him this horrible egg that he laid this hateful sort of uh politics of grievance and no facts that's permanently that is the Republican party you don't want to be in that party but as a guy who would lead the Democrats back to a Promised Land yes you could do that and you're in politics now that we've had Biden and Trump not too old to do it they used to they used to say that was too old but not now but you have to do it quickly you know you want to wait another 10 years it's a thankless job um I think for you would be a great job because you are a guy who like you say you're a workaholic you you love your work it's your your work gives you a lot of your mind does too that's where I spend most of my time most of my energy it's another reason I never got married it's because I'm married to my work and my I always say to people about my show my Show's my kids well why haven't you run well because I why haven't I run because first of all I could never win I don't have the same reputation I have the almost the opposite reputation I mean if you introduce me to baseball game which has happened um at least half the crowd will boo which I take as a badge of honor they either don't understand me or they're remembering something I said that offended them but I've offended everybody and also I'm an atheist pot smoker unmarried unapologetically it's just it's just all wrong but you are no not me you I'll be I'll be your secret advisor but but uh but it has to be as a Democrat you have to like be that Centrist Democrat that the Democratic party definitely needs I'm telling you I'm on to something here this is a very valuable hours don't confuse bald with stupid I think you can address me under the ticket I'm telling you I I really feel like this is important now Doc I will be at the MGM Northfield Park Center the stage the formerly the Hard Rock in Northfield Ohio on Saturday May 20th the 21st I'm at the Mystic Lake Casino in Prior Lake Minnesota June 3rd I'm at the Met in Philadelphia so you should let me read that and I'm promoting yesterday you promoting yourself I would I wouldn't you know what I esteem you too much to debate you with my stand-up plugs June 4th I'll be at the Wind Creek Event Center in Bethlehem Pennsylvania but um do you have anything a plug besides the show that we can't know anything about no I'm just looking for work I'm unemployed it's a huge deal at CBS um right I I know you want I know you have a scripted show coming on well done we've got uh so help me Todd which is on Thursday nights at nine and it's doing great where is it on CBS nine o'clock CBS nine o'clock that's your show script to chill yeah that's fine and uh wow we're still I've got you know two more months of Dr Phil uh April and May are you getting Wishful about that um no we're it's doing great no but are you getting wistful knowing that like oh I've done this for so long and this is one of the last times I'm going to be stepping out on this stage I mean come on you're gonna get choked up the last show no we wrapped uh we wrapped taping of Originals uh last week yeah she did it yeah so I'm now working uh on so you taped your last show yeah come on you must have been reclaimed it was it was a moving time and you know my my boys were there with their wives and and two of my grandkids were there that are old enough and uh yeah I've had the same um professional assistant for 45 years and 45 years yeah she was there and you know I've had the same uh Carla Penningtons my executive producer she's been there the whole 21 years I've had the same seven cameramen for 21 years I've had the same director 21 years I've had you know the whole team's been there the whole time and a lot of them are going with me to uh when we launch off in January 24. when you've had a personal assistant for 45 years you know what that tells me she couldn't find another job you never threw a phone at her head no I didn't no she's uh I could say a lot of things about you but they can't say you threw a phone at anybody's head you're there she's quick right no that's Barbara she's great well whatever happens in the future including running for president which is a genius idea that I had to and it's I'm gonna remember you were the one I was born right here I was born right it's an Unstoppable idea I wish I had thought of that you know it's funny I did an editorial about oh I don't know four years ago something when Trump was in office saying that the person to run against them should be Oprah and I meant it and I don't like know Oprah and I have no connection with Oprah but I just thought oh as far as somebody who like checks all the boxes of somebody who could win in America I mean the the goal posts have moved so far as to what is the criteria for a candidate and it is television television is where people suckle intellectually as sad as that is and when they see somebody who's smarter than the average bear and they respect um I mean look if Trump did it but Oprah's not going to do it and um you know I mean we'll have to talk about VP that has to be a very careful pick we have to be the VP I am not that we first of all you can never have two white men that's true not anymore not anymore and maybe it should be so you know but I mean there's certainly diversity is an important thing and people need representation think about this I'm watching my show in January of 24 election year I intend to have a major impact on what happens I think families in America are under attack I think we've got to get rid of all of this noise and crap and get back to what matters and I do intend to have an impact on that election well I mean there's of course another way to have an impact and that is actually win it but I understand what you're saying like you're be a king maker and then right on because you know you can go from that to you can go from King maker to then you know boy I could do this better myself but I agree and I can't wait to see your platform of getting schools to teach the three R's again and get your son out of that dress what a novel what a novel idea that is so uh you'll come be on my new show and I'll come be on yours I appreciate that let's do it all right come on give all right

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Length: 59min 12sec (3552 seconds)

Published: Mon May 08 2023