DEBATE: Is Ben Askren In Jake Paul’s Head?

[Music] so uh we were talking about this before the the show went live lads it's got to be done it's [ __ ] jake paul ben askren and again we're coming back the press conference was uh yesterday and i mean i've got to give them credit they made it entertaining they've got us sitting talking about it now so it worked and it was generally more entertaining than a lot of [ __ ] fight press conferences i agree it's a fair play but i want to know before i say anything what you made of the situation because you know we've not we've seen youtubers do this [ __ ] before but now he's trying it on with a pro fighter and it did look a bit strange he didn't react the way other youtubers would have you know oh no wait is it a bit disrespectful do you think is there an element which way around well i don't think anyone covered themselves in glory but especially from from the youtube element to the professional fighter but then i suppose the hand went the wrong way do you think he's doing that deliberately as in like he has to almost he has to show i'm not scared of you i don't care if you're a professional yeah it's a leveler i suppose it's a way of it's a way of trying to equalize to just say look i'm not not fussed about what you've achieved in this sport yeah he actually literally called out man you choked at the olympics you choked and now you're gonna choke when you fight me yeah i for me it didn't it didn't cover him in a particularly good light yeah but i did enjoy it are you familiar with jake paul rory because this isn't the first time like and the one thing the one thing that caught me off guard was before the press conference on um youtube or whatever they were uploading videos of a backstage allocation yeah jake goes right up to him i think he's with his misses and ben's just sitting there like he's chanting his team and jake just walks up like [ __ ] he knocks something out of his hand and then he's like stand up straight when i'm talking to you [ __ ] [ __ ] like yeah i was watching it like whoa credit like in a way like you want to get in someone's head you want to let them know you're not intimidated or whatever i don't care i think he went in with that plan of i'm going to just tell you what i want to tell you and you ain't going to do nothing about it and i think i didn't get that from it i got i got from it that that i thought that ben was just sitting there looking thinking i'm going to destroy you yeah been better really yeah that's the throne man like i feel like people that are in this this this fight game whether you're a mixed martial artist or a boxer or whatever and you've been in it for your life when someone like logan paul what's his name jake paul standing in front of you or even tries to touch you i don't think they bother you i don't think they hurt you i don't think they can register on your radar and i think that's why ben's there in his flip-flops crack down chilling and i thought jake paul had the height on him the height advance everything when they were stood next to each other they were pretty similar in size and one of them had flip-flops on yeah so it's like i feel like the size thing isn't that much of a difference anymore and i just think the fact that when when jake paul hits him i don't i don't really see it bothering ben askren because he's been hit by much man one thing i will agree on agree on is ben askren doesn't think it's going to bother him ben askren is so laid back he was insane okay yeah he's like and the fact of i mean we all see in the face palm that he did the fact that he was like get away like it was so dismissive and that alone won him the press conference because he just clearly did not rape and jade the second yeah it was kind of really i know he's not going to whack him out from the back yeah because you look worse for doing that for when someone did give a dig though you could see bottled it i don't think he did i think it was somewhere between the two i think it was harder than it was harder than a okay look he can't it can't actually lay him out from behind yeah but i think that actually riled paul i think that it was actually getting you in the question for the foreign does the fact that ben who was normally placid anyway and he's usually a wind-up merchant so he's good at this the fact that ben felt the need to raise his hand the goal does that not sure he was a little bit triggered because that's quite a confrontational thing to do someone he's just been around him too long yeah and he's just fed up like he's just like you know i had enough of you today you know he shouldn't have done it right he shouldn't i reckon that he will probably look back i think he shouldn't have done it but i also think that made for a good picture it was it made for a very good picture but it was also it looked so dismissive it was the way that you do it you know swatting a fly it was like that just like get away from me that's how i that's how i saw it and to me prior to prior to that the perception was i actually thought that paul could could do this guy whereas having seen them come together the fact that ice cream was so nonplussed by this guy just so paul just looked so irrelevant he looked so irrelevant he was buzzing about he was trying to make himself relevant and ben's just there with his girlfriend just like just wants to fight i think just wants to fight and the way that it now going into it i think ascerian's ice cream's so confident it's made me so confident in ascribing that little swat away as well what i i think has a big power move you know i think that would have reacted that would have brought a reaction within jake as well and made him feel like a little more he's going to train a bit harder would he do that it's like i don't think you're gonna do anything to hurt me after yeah so i can do whatever his reaction didn't prove that he was gonna that's kind of the point here is actually like and that's what i think is kind of important here is what we're forgetting is maybe outside of the ring he doesn't fear him because he's like you know what i'm i you know we're not going to stand up outside of the ring i'll probably fight you there but the fact is this is boxing this is not going to be where ben is strong so i think a lot of people are forgetting that just on that man you're saying it's change of perception the audience's exceptions change as well because on the last show we did we did a vote it was 50 50. today the vote is 88 percent in favor of ben asking yes watching it i was like oh ben's handling this really well i still don't believe he has enough boxing skill to win the fight if in all honesty i don't think it gets to a point where it's not about you not registering the punches it's just speed pressure certain point wake up go to sleep whatever that's what happens you know it's not it's not about you can take the hits and i don't think he's going to be able to get to that point i think the shots are going to be a bit too sharp for him and jake will win however press conference he handed it perfectly i don't think he could have done any better than what he'd done today quick answers sharp had him uncomfortable belittled him a little bit triggered him i made him like an immature team i do think jake felt different because if we look at jake's performances in the deji press conference and the gabe press conference and i was even talking to give about the day or night and i was like this is the first time he's fought a grown man and he was like oh cheers mate [Laughter] in his mind in his mind ben askren it is a legit legend this is a real mma champion fighter like he looks at him different any youtuber and you could tell jake although i was impressed with how confrontational he was at times and and just how ruthless he is you could say he didn't feel the same way he did about the youtubers he was looking at him a bit differently however for me personally i didn't go the same way as you did rory uh if anything i felt like ben is taking jake far too lightly i thought myself you're so relaxed bruce did a psychology analysis on the body language as he always does shadow believing bruce and you see jake the entire time is fidgeting is anxious is constantly moving touching himself you know all this [ __ ] ben never switched positions for the entire he had his foot put a prop on his knee like you know he was so chill but in my head i'm like this kid this young lad who's been training boxing non-stop with with other killers in the gym he's coming to [ __ ] you up you know you know you yeah jake is gonna do you damage and i don't think you you quite don't think he is yeah i don't think he is but i don't think i don't buy all that because i feel like everyone's talking about this experience and fair enough you can train in the gym and you can have all these cultures and that but who have you fought really you thought you fought a basketballer or something and and another youtuber that come on man this geez has been hit by all sorts of animals and whether he's a top flight you uh mma fighter or mid-range or bottom range you're not i don't see him really i could look really stupid after this but i just i don't see that do you know what it is or anything do you know what it is for me just so i can help explain it how i feel about it is it's the eye test it's like when i watch ben take these punches off these big footman mma strikers yeah he goes to the wrestling and he turns into a whirlwind and they're not quite connecting fully on him and he's able to scramble and make it a bit of a tumbleweed moment where you know you're just sort of seeing them rolling around on the floor again with jake yes he hasn't fought any one of the caliber that ben has but when you look at the the the eye test of this striking and compare that to benz it looks to me worlds apart it doesn't look close i feel like there's going to be not just a little bit of a difference lads i think there's going to be a brutal beating delivered by jake paul because when ben asked him can't go for a takedown and he's getting his head knocked back he the speed and power that jake paul's going to hit him with it it's going to be different to mma fighters whenever may fight a swing it's quite wild at times jake is going to hit him with sort of he's going to hit him with wild punches as well but like he's going to put some real power through him and there will be no break for a takedown there will be no moment where he can kind of stop this the way he can normally yeah i think he's going to get a real and i think the way jake is posturing beforehand shows that he is intending to come out and batter him early um so i'm expecting that personally how significant do you think the lack of experience paul has like an actual war like this but aspirin's done it he's stepped in he's he's been in the trenches he knows he knows what it takes that kind of thing is very significant yeah if if ben was a little bit better on the feet i would completely agree with you so if ben's boxing skills that he'd shown in mma fights were a little bit better yeah like for example if you watch the damien maya fight it's the it's the most embarrassing mma striking you could ever see in my opinion so we're talking about the worst mma striker in my opinion other than maybe a dylan danis or whatever like really poor level striking so it's not that i'm doubting ben's toughness he is tough but he's tough to get it to the ground when he's forced to stand up he looks like he's swinging handbags at a bingo hole like it's terrible and jake actually looks good so you've got someone who looks terrible who's tough as [ __ ] there's someone we don't know how tough he is but who looks really good but like that's how i see it being the worst striker on the scale of mma hmm you're still a wicked striker right no like you're on that scale no no not to me no not in my opinion no i'm not i still i feel like this is like you know when everyone watches san marino on ghosts i could i could beat them this is how i feel like it is like i just feel like it's like that like it's like everyone's sitting here like yeah just [ __ ] not like [ __ ] it's like really when you get in there and you're playing with them it's not a game that's what i mean if i say what i'm saying about it no i'm agreeing with the seat yeah no that's what i was like to just enforce it on the scale of him being not somebody who's convinced you over the years he still is tough he's a tough guy yeah but but this is so here's what i'm saying about this striking not mma he doesn't hit hard he doesn't hit fast no he doesn't hit technically well jake paul does all of those things better so when i hear mma fans go to me ben asprin is going to win because he's a tough mma i'm like that is irrelevant he is he doesn't hit hard he's slow and he's just had a hip replacement and the guy can't strike very well so like if this was an mma fight by all means we're all picking ben askren but it's not yeah and that's why i always like you see him getting knocked out though i think he's going to get [ __ ] really up like i can't believe that like maybe steven getting out really he has how i'm confident i'm thinking how much money do i put lightly i think he's going to come out and he's going to put it and you know this little push in the face uh in my head jake is the type of person who is going to that is only gonna make him want to perform even better you know what i mean i reckon a video that said i lost x amount on jay paul would do numbers hey so you say you'll be all right i'll win it but i'll remember i could be so wrong but i'm speaking in my mind yeah yeah yeah and when i watch them in the gym you know what you you watch ben oscar you're making me believe yeah anyway it's not it's not good stuff it's not good stuff i respect his attitude and how he handled himself at the press conference but the boxing it's not the one that's not the one yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't put ben askren on the level of like logan paul and people like that striking wise i really wouldn't but people think because they're youtubers they let that cloud their judgment i'm literally removing all that and just going what am i looking at that's looking skillful yeah no no no no nothing else matters like skill for scare are you impressed with paul when you've seen him in like sparring or whatever yeah i think he's picked it up really uh really quickly he's picked up really quickly he's enjoying it you can see he's enjoying it he's got a big team around him you know supporting him his things get hard they're there to push him sing his praises which is good um but i just don't feel like he's being tested do you know what i mean i don't feel like he's being tested so you're with brian then you don't see this one as being i think i know but you know it is i mean like there's things when you spar certain people or something happens and you really get put up against it and then at that point you know whether you can do this boxing thing or not i don't feel like he's entered that right realm there's a certain level you don't push certain people to because you're scared that if you do they ain't gonna come back from it and then there's others where you take them there because you know it's going to bring out the best in them you know what i mean yeah there's been times where i've walked there was a gym and your dad said to me i don't know if he's coming back next week like when i turn back up he's like brian yeah but some people can't go there and continue you know and that's what really makes a fire so until we see that that's when that's what i'm saying if you take him outside the plan zone yeah you take him outside where i don't feel he's really been yet he's faced challenges but not really challenges like this i mean and what happens then how does he react say say these guys are right and ben just goes well i've seen so many boxes as well that are like because i've i've always like gone to amateur fights and amateur shows and all that kind of stuff watching my boy come through the levels and that and like you always see someone that is amazing in the gym like they learn everything the bags with the coach we don't you put a tin can in front of them and then they're gonna look mint because they've got everything and but once you start upping the levels and real people are coming in there with intentions to do you harm yeah it's difficult and i completely agree with you and what i will say is if ben is a little bit better than what i think he is we would well say that yeah i mean i don't know much about ben in it yeah but i just feel like if you're a fighter it's like i don't know how to because ben's had wars ben is hard as his nails that ain't what i'm disputing he is hard as nails it's like i've gotta make it skilled in that spot then we got i got one of my mates a professional boxer and one of my mates if we get into a scrap is the one we look for yeah yeah i can tell him to hit me loads of time then it won't it will hurt but he won't bother me see if i tell my boy the professional boxer razor take me well i'm [ __ ] for days like do you know what i mean like what's professor what's this hit with differently stop telling it i just want to feel what it feels like and you know we don't go in properly but enough you know when a professional fighter hits you it's a different kind of should we do that what did you think about him taking the angle of i'm representing boxing and you're representing mma like he was trying to really reinforce the point that he's i think so the problem is right football for these guys is yeah generally in the past mma has not necessarily loved ben askren and boxing certainly hasn't loved jake paul yeah so it ain't going to be that really no no he was trying to take that angle and i think that because he's not in a position to do that no one that you know holds weight in the boxing game is going to say that you're representing them you know i mean i don't think it's that but that's just because jake is such a divisive character that no one really wants to claim ownership yeah nice because he's not boxing though is he he's he isn't he hasn't gone through amateur bucks and he hasn't built his he is a white collar boxer he like that's what he is like we've seen like all over the years before the internet used to get white color boxes celebrities fighting each other and that like that that's what he is he isn't a boxer that's true to the sport and but i think all of those so he doesn't represent no but this is the thing i think jake has studied boxing intensely and has paid his dues hence why he is getting so good and i think the way he views it is i really love boxing and i'm dedicated and i give my life to this but the rest of the world don't want to accept that until he proves it and this is step one but the way to prove it isn't fighting some who's that gibb fella like the way to prove it is going the traditional right if you if you truly love boxing yeah and that's why look i rate it like bro you'll make your paper you know i mean carry on but let's not pretend you love the sport it's all about yourself a little bit uh like i don't know a little bit sneery to what he's doing no i'm not it's you can't say you represent boxing or you i get what it is it is clear that we also do need to make that distinction because i do think too often it's a bit like if no one said of the wembley cup this is representing football here or no one said of you know that no one says when they play that match on itv this is you know all that in the world because they know it's like chunks is representing football yeah and that's what i find is sort of um that's what i find a bit disingenuous because we know so little about boxing i don't know you don't not everybody has to have had their moments at york hall not everybody has to have like been in love with the sport from from six years old in order to i'm not about being for line or he probably does love the sport for all i know he grew up watching it and everything but if you're coming into it fighting over youtube you're not fulfilling the traditions of the sport say i represent the sport you are just using the sport as a vehicle to you know to further your name and to to carry on what you're doing experience but somebody said there is like a symbiosis between the two of those where it's like look if we will gain because of this because you know loads more young people will come and see it who probably wouldn't have even looked at it in the first place yeah yeah so it's not so in this exact example he is representing boxing because he's fighting he's fighting someone who isn't a boxer but is mcgregor that was a true mma boxing exhibition for sure for sure but he never made his name in butler i also think it tends to be the people in mma who go he's representing boxing so if he loses that's but mma is better than boxing and whoever thinks their side's going to win go well he represents that because everyone's got a dog in the fight i just find it a bit sneery you know people are like well he's not he's not real or he's not he's not actually i i don't know didn't mean he might look bro he might have grew up watching eric morales and marco antonio he might i don't know him in it i don't but you can't say that if you haven't come through the traditional way this is just you

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Length: 22min 33sec (1353 seconds)

Published: Mon Mar 29 2021