Coffee and Crime Time: 2 Murders From 1999 Solved With DNA

she's like a sickness in my brain a vision standing by the window pain she ripples through the blinds and leaves me in a daze it's in the way her body moves me the way she grabs i [Music] [Music] hello everyone welcome back to my channel and thank you for joining me for another coffee and crime time it's christmas season officially um i mean i'm recording this like midway through the month so i'm feeling finally like i can start uh getting into the christmas spirit but i've only gotten like half of my presents wrapped so i really like to do that early on and it just hasn't hasn't really been working out this month in fact because i recently you know moved into to this new house over the summer i kind of lost track of all my hiding spots because i still have young children so i hide things and i i haven't really tracked down everything yet let me know if you're in the same boat not a really grey boat to be in because i don't feel like going on a scavenger hunt this week which is what i'm going to have to do but today we're talking about a little bit more good news i guess if you can look at true crime and think that anything's good news today we're talking about two cold cases that happened in november of 1999 and they have both recently been given new life due to dna technology that was not available in 1999 so i guess when it comes to true crime and cases like this that's the best news possible that you can get you know to hopefully no matter how long it takes find some kind of closure and and i guess solve the crimes so that the family members can have some justice enclosure that's the best you can hope for 30 year old young cavilla who was killed in her chicago apartment and 23 year old jennifer watkins who was killed at her place of employment memorial hospital in colorado springs before we dive in let's have a word from the sponsor of today's video and today's video is sponsored by native native makes all-natural vegan and cruelty-free deodorant with clean 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and get three plastic free deodorants for just 29. thank you to native for sponsoring this video and let's dive in let's start with young kavila she was originally from korea and it seems she lived in vancouver washington for a time before moving to a small first floor apartment in the chicago illinois area not far from the city's airport o'hare but she moved there just six weeks before her death so she hadn't been in chicago long she'd been working as a united airlines flight attendant and it seemed like her circle was really small so her current boyfriend was also a flight attendant with united as was her roommate who lived with her in the apartment and her ex-husband who's referred to as her estranged husband in uh news articles and things he also was a flight attendant but for a different airline company and i think this is pretty standard when that's your career because you're just not really in one place for very long right you're traveling all over the place so you just end up gravitating towards people who are also in the same line of work on the evening of november 30th 1999 young had just returned to the city after a flight and sometime between 8 pm and 10 10 pm she returned home not knowing someone was lying in wait for her in the dark depths of her apartment her roommate who'd also been out of town for work for several days returned that evening at around 10 20 p.m to find a young dead on the floor of their kitchen wearing only a bra police arrived and began questioning people that young knew they questioned residents of the apartment complex where yong and her roommate lived which was the colonial park apartments near elmhurst and algonquin roads they also conducted interviews at the apartments that were adjacent to colonial park which were the clayton court apartments they had her picture they were showing it around at the two apartment complexes they were going to nearby convenience stores and things like that just asking anybody like did you know this girl you know was anybody following her did you notice anything strange about her behavior typical early investigation kind of stuff no one had really seen or heard anything besides one tenant who lived directly next door to yonkavilla and her roommate this woman was named penny durling and she never really officially met either of the young women who lived next door she said they were quiet and they weren't often home but on the evening of november 30th 1999 penny heard a loud thump at about 9 45 pm an autopsy showed several slash marks to young's neck and defensive wounds to her hands which showed that she had put up a fight one large gash bigger and deeper than the rest of them that was found on her neck ended up being her cause of death and the murder weapon had been a boot knife which i guess is just a regular knife that you can fit in your boot or it's small enough to fit in your boot uh for some reason when i heard boot knife i got this like vision of um a boot with a knife in the the toe of it and then like you kind of kick something and the knife comes out i don't know why i don't know what kind of movies i'm watching where that's the thing i saw in my head when i heard boot knife but essentially a boot knife is just something that's small enough i guess that you can slip it into your boot and and conceal it and although initially police said that there was no sign of sexual assault that would prove not to be true and i think we could all gather that from the fact that she was found wearing only her bra and i don't anticipate that she did that to herself or of her own free will there had been dna found at the scene however blood stains found on young cavilla's shoe as well as on her bedding and a fingerprint found on the doorknob no one in the system matched to the fingerprint and at this time dna technology was not advanced enough to you know search through databases there weren't dna databases that were just available so they weren't able to really do much with the sample recovered besides putting in evidence store it and keep it for a while the case went cold and there were no leads in the spring and summer of the following year there was a string of strange events that police thought for a time might be linked to young's murder there were a bunch of home invasions and attempted home invasions that were happening on chicago's north side where young lived i can't figure out if it was more than one man or if it was multiple men from the articles that i searched through because i had to go in the archives and i had to look at old newspaper articles there wasn't much on like google and yahoo and things from the articles i get the impression that it was just actually one single man but it seemed like this man was going to like doors of women's houses or apartments and posing as a public official phone company worker police officer census bureau worker etc in five of the attacks the women were of asian descent which led some to question if young had been the unfortunate victim of this man who seemed to move really quickly throughout the chicago suburbs he'd be reported at the door of one apartment building and then a few hours later he'd be you know across town at the door of another apartment building so he didn't seem to let up if he didn't get invited in or allowed into one apartment or one house he would just move on he wasn't deterred but soon word spread as it does and people in the area became a lot more suspicious and wary of strangers knocking on their doors and nobody was letting him in now in 2007 authorities received a tip about a man who had lived in young kavila's apartment building the year she'd been killed his name was luis rodriguez mena and apparently the day after the murder he and his pregnant girlfriend who he also lived with in the apartment building they left chicago and they went to mexico and he never came back after this he never returned to the states at least not that we know of at this point when he's in mexico luis began bragging to family members about how he had committed the crime the murder of young kavilah and he'd gotten away with it but he told them if they ever spoke about it or told authorities or told anyone that they would be next so he basically threatened their lives like i'm going to brag about this murder to you but you can't tell anyone i just i just want to tell someone about it and you know brag about how i got away with it which doesn't make any sense but apparently that's what happened and apparently someone in his family who i believe was his girlfriend who he lived with at the time of the murder but it hasn't really been verified there were some kind of indications that it was her but none of the articles i read ever came right out and said it was her but someone ended up calling police and telling them that he was confessing to this so luis had been a suspect in young's murder since 2007 but he was in mexico and not only that he was moving around mexico a lot to evade officials from both mexico and the u.s but then in 2008 investigators got a tip that luis's girlfriend had moved back to illinois and she'd brought with her the sun that she shared with louise the one she was pregnant with when young kavila died and once she was found once she was tracked down she agreed to allow police to take a dna sample from her son to test against the dna found at the scene of young kavila's murder the dna was a 99.98 percent match and due to some legal trouble that luis had gotten himself into mexico officials were also able to match the fingerprint found on the door of kavila's apartment to him as well he was arrested this past june in mexico and over the past several months there's been all this you know red tape and paperwork that has to you know be gone through in order to extradite someone from mexico to the united states but this month december 2020 he was finally extradited to the states where he's been charged with first-degree murder and ordered held without bail editing stephanie here so after i recorded this video and before i finished editing it another article came out about young kavila in the chicago tribune so i'm going to read to you a little bit from that article to clarify some things and add a little bit more information so it says whoever killed flight attendant young kavila deeply gashing her neck left plenty of evidence behind at her apartment in day planes the killer had wiped his hand on her bed covers and had briefly dropped a bloody knife there he also left clear finger and palm prints on the kitchen counter and a doorknob it also says that kavila was killed after getting off a flight that was coming into chicago she stopped to buy groceries and take out food on her way home around 10 p.m but luis rodriguez mena had allegedly gotten to her apartment and was waiting for her now it also says that kavila fought back as he tried to sexually assault her in the kitchen she used a small personal grooming razor to slash her attacker but police say rodriguez mena had a boot knife and cut her throat and then he left so um it appears that he attempted to sexually assault her but he didn't get the chance to because she fought back good for her now when kavila's roommate found her just minutes later she was lying face up in the kitchen and a diamond ring necklaces and her wallet were missing so he came in hidden her apartment waited for her tried to sexually assault her she fought back he realized i guess that it wasn't going to work so he killed her and then he stole from her it was also in october 2007 when a family of immigrants told detectives about a relative in mexico who bragged of the homicide and threatened to kill any relative who gave him up the relatives said they fled to mexico after rodriguez menia threatened one of them with a screwdriver and also threatened to kill a second relative and her family this article in the chicago tribune also says that luis rodriguez menya had been living openly at his parents house in mexico at least until july of 2007 and at that point he secured a driver's license in his own name which government records in central mexico show and after that his family kept moving him around mexico to evade authorities police chief william kushner said quote they were aware of this right from the beginning when he fled to mexico in 1999 he admitted to his family members that he had killed a flight attendant in de plaines which is in chicago they hid it from everyone they kept hiding him and kept moving him around so pretty much what we had already discussed but there were some things that were incorrect in articles i'd read or this article cleared up for us from the articles i had read because they were very vague so i just wanted to pop in here with new information so we're as up-to-date as possible and we'll return to the video now in 2007 a family member came forward with information implicating luis rodriguez mayna who had been living in the area with his girlfriend at the time of the murder as the offender in this murder the family member further stated that maina who had significant wounds to his upper torso had fled to the area of puerto vacan mexico with his pregnant girlfriend while in puerto vaca maina admitted to family members he had committed this murder and that his wounds had been inflicted by the victim mana's family hid this from his girlfriend the girlfriend subsequently returned to the united states of the chicago area and gave birth to his son in 2008 man his girlfriend was located and gave detectives consent to swat obtain her son's dna from a bubble swab of his cheek this dna profile was compared through the oni state police forensics laboratory to blood evidence recovered at the scene and came up as a 99.98 match in february of 2008 a nobel arrest warrant was issued in cook county circuit court for louise rodriguez maina for first degree murder february 20th of 2008 a federal provisional arrest warrant was issued in the u.s district court northern illinois in may of 2008 the latent fingerprint recovered at the scene was compared with a print taken from maina during a 2000 arrest 2006 arrest in mexico examiners from the illinois state police forensics laboratory determined that the prints were a match in june of 2020 working closely with our federal and international partners from mexico and interpol mana was taken into custody in mexico extradition was granted maine was returned to the united states via o'hare airport and turned over to displaced police he was charged last night with three counts of first-degree murder and is appearing in skulkeband court as we speak this case is a tremendous example of tireless determination on the part of our detectives as well as the outstanding cooperative efforts between our department and the fbi homeland security illinois state police interpol and new mexican authorities it does feel good um when you see the bad guy get caught even if we had to wait so many years luis is 46 years old now but he clearly was incapable of keeping out of trouble he was incapable of keeping his mouth shut and that's annoying because he was so messy about it and it took so long for him to finally be you know taken into custody he's been able to live his life for 21 years and who knows who else he's hurt or who else he's done this too for someone to just go into somebody else's apartment kill them sexually abuse them and then just you know leave and then start talking about it clearly this is not a person who has a moral compass or conscience or feels any guilt or regrets so i can't imagine how many other people he did this to but the saddest part for me is i couldn't find out much about young who she was what her life was like etc the reports i could find showed that her parents who still lived in korea flew to chicago after her death as did her estranged husband who was also a flight attendant like i said but there's really nothing else and that makes me feel bad although her death has now been solved there's no way to really tell what she was like in life or you know what her hopes and dreams were like what did she want to do did she want kids what was her favorite ice cream what did she like to do when she wasn't traveling around what kind of places had she been to you know i'm sure she had a very colorful and interesting life and i hate making videos where the sole thing that defines a person a victim is their murder and how they died i looked for a full day like six hours straight i even pulled up old newspaper articles and i just found nothing and i'm sure that has a lot to do with the fact that her parents were never interviewed due to the language barrier but i have to imagine that her roommate would have had something to say about her i mean they lived together even if it was for just a short time her ex-husband who was married to her who knows how long they were married there's nothing that says how long they were married or why they got divorced why they were estranged but i'm sure he has something to say about her her new boyfriend i don't know once again how long they were dating how they met etc but someone must have known her well enough to give us a little peek into her life they just never did or they were never asked and i suspect that it's the latter i think that especially in the past years um there just wasn't much of a concentration on the victim like today when you see an article written about somebody who's lost their lives there there is that stuff and that's the stuff that i really like to see i want to get to know the person first before i find out how their life ended because how their life ended is such a small little piece of of what they were who they were it's definitely not the most important piece so i really like to know who they are before getting to that and i don't think there was so much of a push in like 1999 for that you know it was more about the murder the murderer the sensationalized aspect of it all and and that's clearly seen in how these stories are reported then as opposed to now next we are going to colorado springs to talk about 23 year old jennifer lee skinner now according to this article from westward jennifer was the second of four children and she was the closest to her younger brother joseph she attended hanover high school she liked playing volleyball she liked animals she also played the clarinet in the school band after high school she attended barnes business school in denver colorado and at this time she started seriously dating a man she'd known since grade school and his name was michael watkins and she would eventually go on to marry michael and have two children with him but according to her parents this was when things in her life took a little bit of a downturn because michael struggled with substance abuse and he would often physically abuse jennifer sending her to the emergency room on more than one occasion jennifer who had always loved helping both people and animals had wanted to become a nurse and after they were married for about three years michael got a job at memorial hospital in colorado springs and soon after jennifer followed also getting a job at memorial hospital and working as a food service aide now on november 6 1999 jennifer had been working her shift during the day and she was supposed to pick her two children up from her mother's house after work and then go home her two children were three-year-old michael jr and 11 month old mariah so they were very young obviously um very sad that her children probably don't even remember her because she died when they were so young but jennifer didn't pick the kids up from her mother's house nor did she go home where her husband was waiting and noticed that jennifer didn't come home so the police were called both by michael and jennifer's mother and a missing persons report was filed it wasn't until two days later when elevator service employees were working in an area of the hospital that was under construction and i assume closed off to the public once again this is never specifically said but it's an area of the hospital that's under construction so typically when that that's the case it is closed off to the public so that people don't get hurt and sue the hospital so these employees were working in this area and they found a body under a stairwell wrapped in a construction sheet and plastic and bound with duct tape it was jennifer she'd been sexually assaulted and she'd been killed due to blunt force trauma to her head now obviously jennifer's husband michael would be the main suspect early on not only was there a history of domestic violence in their marriage but he worked at the hospital so he would have been familiar with her comings and goings maybe the way that she would take to leave the hospital he'd be familiar with the landscape etc however police discovered a lot of dna evidence at the scene including a yellowish stain on the sheet that she was wrapped in which was later discovered to be semen and this was a pretty big stain this wasn't just like a little bit that escaped clearly this person who did this was either not knowledgeable about dna or maybe he was very knowledgeable about dna and he knew that his dna couldn't tie him to this crime at that time i'm not sure there was also human hairs as well as fibers found on jennifer's body and all of this forensic evidence was sent to the cbi which is the colorado bureau of investigation for further analysis but once again this is 1999 so the dna could be used to clear suspects like her husband um but there was no databases with tons of dna that were donated by willing participants ready to be compared against so the case went cold even though michael watkins jennifer's husband was technically cleared as a suspect because it wasn't his dna that was found at the scene he was followed by suspicion for many years after a lot of people in that area believed he still had something to do with what happened to his wife and the case wasn't solved at that time so there was really nothing to quell these rumors so i feel really bad in situations like this for the children they lose their mother or they lose their father and then the other parent is kind of suspected of being responsible and they have to live under that shadow i don't think we consider that enough it reminds me a lot of the case that we just covered on our podcast crime weekly jennifer dulos and fodis dulos like to think about those five kids jennifer and fotis's children who not only lost their mother but had to live under the shadow of this investigation into their father for so long and then you know eventually did lose their father as well when he took his own life it's so sad that the children have to go through this and deal with this and live under scrutiny and live and grow up hearing these rumors well even if it wasn't michael watkins it was somebody right so who did it end up being enter paraben nano labs a biotechnology company in westin virginia paraben says they are engineering dna for next generation therapeutics and forensics so they do all sorts of things there including the development of new pharmaceuticals it's kind of really interesting actually if you don't mind a little detour they have something called assemblics with an e not an a like e semblics and the tagline of esemblix is designing drugs one molecule at a time and they go on to say that by fully leveraging the power of dna they are developing a new class of nano pharmaceuticals that provide individualized treatments for some of the most challenging diseases it also says that they're actively using esemblex to develop a vaccine formulation for hiv and interestingly enough they're also working with the us department of defense to develop new drug nano carriers and investigate new methods of biopathogen detection and decontamination now these are all big words but essentially from what i get from it reading it not being an expert nanotechnology it's like um almost specialized technology where if you have this rare genetic disease you don't always get to have a medicine for that um i remember watching a i forget what it was called i'm gonna have to find it and put in the description box i promise if i find it i will but it was so interesting and it was this documentary multi-parts about um genetics and dna and stuff like that and genetic diseases which often don't have therapeutics because of the fact that they're very rare so if only the small amount of the population has this genetic disease or genetic issue there's really not a lot of r d which is research and development for these kind of genetic issues because only a small percentage of the population has it so there's not a lot of money and that's the bottom line right there's not a lot of money for pharmaceutical companies to spend all this time and effort and money developing a drug or a cure for something that not a lot of people have because then there's not going to be a lot of people who want it you know supply and demand kind of thing so it really looks like this nanotechnology might actually help with people who have these kinds of rare genetic diseases because the cure or the treatment can be kind of tailored to to their specific body chemistry dna genetics like stuff like that it's very very cool so this says how assemblics works key to the approach is the use of synthetic dna as a programmable molecular substrate although dna is best known as a carrier of genetic information strands of synthetic dna can be constructed to have any sequence of bases because complementary sequences of dna are mutually attractive synthetic strands can be programmed with sequences that cause them to swim to the right spot with respect to one another and then bind to form nano structures of virtually any shape before self-assembly is induced dna strands can be attached to other types of molecular sub-components so that they are pulled into designated locations by the dna strands during self-assembly that is so cool and listen like if you watch this documentary that i'm talking about this would be more interesting to you because i remember one of the first stories was this little girl and she has this rare genetic disease and she's so sick and she's she's dying and if they don't find a cure or they don't find a treatment she's going to die and she's just this innocent little girl whose parents love her so much and have devoted so much time and effort and so much of their hearts to trying to to save her and i just can't imagine being in that situation because yeah my kids drive me crazy they tire me out but i'm so blessed that they're healthy they're healthy they don't have to go through this we don't have to go through this and i feel so sad for people who do because there's just not the support out there let me look up and see if i can find this um this documentary so it's a pbs documentary called the jean it's so good i actually started watching it with my nine-year-old who was eight at the time when we were watching it and he cried he was so sad for this little girl whose name is susanna oh my goodness it's so sad and if you do watch it the narrator has a very um pronounced voice like a very recognizable voice but it will take you a minute to figure out who it is but once you hear it you'll be like i've heard this voice somewhere and you'll have to look it up so let me know if you do okay anyways moving on right paraben also does dna analytics genealogy and dna forensics which is what we're supposed to be talking about before i got off track specifically what we're talking about is a program called snapshot which uses dna phenotyping to predict the physical appearance and ancestry of a person just by like looking at their dna it's crazy and i know that a lot of um like 23andme and genealogy things they will actually do this i've seen them my friend did one of these i think it was 23 and me and it was crazy because it predicted like what color her eyes were what color her hair was like if she was fair-skinned or darker-skinned um how much you know she weighed how how tall she was things like that crazy without ever seeing her and this is what they did in jennifer watkins case with the dna found at the scene in 2017 colorado detectives worked with paraben to create a composite sketch based on the dna profile that was found on jennifer's body and in june of 2018 that composite sketch was released to the public because of the work of parabon a suspect was identified a man named ricky servert who was 29 years old at the time of jennifer's murder and who also worked at the hospital as a maintenance worker now it appears that ricky was questioned in the aftermath of jennifer's murder since he'd been at the hospital that day working a shift but he denied ever having seen jennifer or even knowing her so when he was identified as a suspect authorities were unable to take ricky into custody and question him further because two years after he raped and murdered jennifer watkins ricky had been killed in a car accident north of colorado springs he died three days before the two-year anniversary of her murder which is poetic justice in a way because you know although we don't get to see him in handcuffs now 21 years later we can at least rest easy knowing that he hasn't been on the loose all this time like luis from the first case we talked about hunting more women hurting more women but it's crazy because look at the composite sketch done by paraben labs and look at ricky's driver's license picture i believe this was taken in the year 2000 it is really similar it's very similar and it blows my mind that just your dna can predict this accurately like your physical appearance and speaking of physical appearances this is cc moore who's 51 years old but she must have access to the fountain of youth because she looks amazing and on top of being beautiful she's also hella smart cici is the star of abc's the genetic detective where she uses her skills and knowledge of genealogy and teamed up with the folks at parabon to solve cold cases using dna and get this i'm so impressed as of mid-may they have solved 109 cold cases that's insane and it looks like the cbi has been teaming up with paraben quite a bit to go through these cold cases and and clear them up and sort of like um i don't know just get them solved i wish that they could use this to actually like put people like leticia stouk in prison for good and not even allow her to write letters to judges and try to get out and kind of like just throw her in jail and throw away the key kind of thing but you know she she needs to have a trial but i'm so pleased to see dna coming to the forefront i'm really interested to learn more about it because i truly believe that dna forensics is going to be the new standard for police work in my opinion it takes away a lot of the personal biases it takes away you know interpretation of the evidence it takes away human error you know the dna is either a match or it's not and i think that we are hopefully going to see crime rates decrease as criminals realize that it's very difficult to commit a crime especially a crime like the ones that we've talked about in these two cases it's very difficult to commit these kinds of crimes without leaving a little piece of yourself behind that's the hope at least or you know they'll just get better at covering their tracks either way we can only hope to kind of um evolve scientifically and hopefully evolve faster than the criminal mind and the more i read about cece moore the more i want to meet her because this is a woman i could really be friends with she's very victim-focused she's very interested in going through talking to victims of sex crimes especially and helping them find closure and see their attacker either be identified or be brought to justice so i really hope that one day i get to meet cece moore and i'm really interested in looking more into her and kind of finding out more about what she does if you want a video about what she does or genetics and dna and fighting crimes and things like that because i know i kind of did go off on a tangent in this video but if you want a video about that let me know but as of now i leave it off to you what do you guys think do you also think that dna is going to be more important in not only solving crimes but fighting crimes maybe deterring criminal activity let me know what you think in the comments let me know if you've seen that documentary the gene on pbs and also let me know if you found all the hiding spots that you've put your presence in your house because maybe it'll give me an idea of where i might have stored mine thank you guys so much for being here and i'll definitely talk to you again before christmas but if i put out a video and you don't watch it happy holidays i love you guys so much stay kind stay beautiful bye [Music] is [Music] well you don't know how deep it goes until it's getting you slowly so you got to let it go blood on the streams

Channel: Stephanie Harlowe

Views: 242,251

Rating: 4.9311724 out of 5

Keywords: young kavila, jennifer watkins, stephanie harlowe, louis rodriguez mena, ricky servet, 1999 cold cases, phenotyping, parabon labs, cece moore

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Length: 38min 38sec (2318 seconds)

Published: Thu Dec 17 2020