Death In Room 2805: Who Is Jennifer Fergate?

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[Music] hello everybody welcome back to my channel and thank you for joining me for another true crime video so it's officially february and since it's my birthday month i'm going to treat myself and hopefully the rest of you by making videos throughout this month about cases and stories that have intrigued me and drawn me in this month you're going to get a series on bonnie and clyde which i've been working on in my spare time for a few months now my spare time has been limited so there's a lot of work left to do and there's going to be other cases that i've been obsessed with and interested in today marks the start of that with the mystery from 1995 that i've known about since i covered the case of the isdel woman on my channel two harloweens ago and recently netflix's unsolved mysteries reboot also showcased it in one of their episodes now i have a lot of thoughts and theories about this case i've spent way too long hours researching the smallest things involved in the case tracking down little pieces of evidence trying to put the puzzle together so i'm excited to share everything with you today and to get a conversation going on saturday june 3rd 1995 an unidentified woman was found dead in a hotel room in oslo norway her death was eventually ruled as a suicide even though much of the evidence contradicts that conclusion although her story has been told many times and the details of her case have been publicized all over the world no one has ever come forward to claim her as a family member no one has ever even come forward to say that they knew her a year after her death she was buried at the oslo western civil cemetery and there's no headstone to mark her name date of birth or date of death because no one knows who she is today we're going to go over the timelines the evidence and the theories and there's a lot to unpack so grab a coffee grab a snack and get comfortable because we're going in deep but first let's have a word from the sponsor of today's video 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olav v and at the time of completion it was norway's first real skyscraper even today it's still the second tallest building in the country it was remodeled in 2012 but even in 1995 the plaza was considered the place to stay if you are looking for the ultimate in luxury and opulence the hotel towers above the city with its reflective glass facades that taper off the higher you go making for a very interesting and beautiful looking design from the rooms on its 37 floors you can see gorgeous views of oslo and its fjords stretching out before you and if you want to get an even better look you can hop into the external glass elevator and take it all in in 1992 a footbridge was built between the plaza and the oslo spectrum arena which has hosted major events including the eurovision 1996 song contest as a guest at the hotel you are within walking distance from the royal palace and the national gallery which houses norway's largest collection of art you're also within a minute walk of the oslo central train station now the details from this initial phone call between the english-speaking woman and the hotel employee who took the reservation are vague so we don't know when this woman had originally planned to arrive but during this call she gave her name as jennifer fairgate or at least that's what the employee wrote down nine days later on wednesday may 31st jennifer fairgate called the plaza and said that her plans had changed and instead she'd be checking in that same evening staying two nights and checking out the following friday during this call the woman did not speak english she spoke fluent german with what the employee that she was speaking with thought was an eastern dialect or accent during this call jennifer also informed the hotel that she would be arriving with another person a lewis fare gate and that they were a couple from belgium that night at about 10 40 in the evening jennifer fairgate arrived to check in she had blue eyes her dark hair was cut short and she was wearing a long black leather jacket the hotel was very busy at this time because the last three flights had recently landed at the airport and many people were checking in now i have often wondered about this specific timing feeling that if she had wanted to go unnoticed this would have been the most ideal time to arrive now one of the hotel employees the one who checked her in actually said there was a long line at this point and everyone at reception was busy checking in guests now there are two different employees who remember seeing jennifer fairgate at the time of check-in but their versions of seeing her differ the receptionist who checked her in was sasha andenson and he believed that as he checked her in she was alone very similar to the isdel woman case i've covered before jennifer was given a form to fill in when she checked into the hotel and on this card she was expected to fill in you know certain places on the form that sasha had indicated such as her name date of birth address phone number and passport number now the form itself already had the names jennifer and lewis fairgate typed on it and this was from the information she'd given the hotel when she booked the room but when she signed the form she signed it as jennifer fergate not fairgate she gave her date of birth as august 28 1974 which would have made her 21 at the time she wrote her address as 148 rue dilastad 7968 in the town of verlaine belgium under the area where she was asked about her occupation she wrote serbis but in the spaces where there were x's marking the spot for her to write in her passport number and the issuing passport authority she had written nothing on the form where it shows what kind of payment she used for the room the box next to cash is checked which is fine there's no laws saying you can't pay for a hotel room with cash however this was a five-star hotel and most hotels even in 1995 required that the people staying there put some sort of credit card on file for what they call incidentals and incidentals can mean a lot of things if you do some kind of damage to the hotel room like you think you're a rock star so you just smash your guitar into the television set having your valid credit card on file ensures that the hotel won't take a hit for that tv that you destroyed if you order a bunch of room service or drain the mini bar during your stay it can be charged to your card if you get it into your head to check into a fancy hotel to enjoy the amenities for a couple of days and then sneak out without paying the hotel can charge your credit card and the oslo plaza was no exception it had these policies in place that when a guest was checked in they would need to provide not only a valid credit card but also a valid form of identification but jennifer fergate was never asked to provide either and she was allowed to check into her room without giving these things to sasha sasha's supervisor evie yurzen also remembered seeing jennifer when she checked in but evie believed that jennifer was with a dark-haired man who was about six feet tall and appeared to be between 35 and 40 years of age the norwegian paper vg has what i believe to be the most extensive coverage on this case and years later they interviewed both sasha and evie evie told vg quote i'm sure she was with a man i was at my regular station at reception and at the other side stood that woman next to her was a dark-haired man end quote jennifer was checked into room 2805 and she was given instructions on which elevator to take in order to get to her floor and her room and she was handed two key cards and then she left the front desk now a few hours later both sasha and evie claim that they saw jennifer again once again their recollections of this event vary sasha claimed that as he was checking in more guests he saw jennifer standing by the elevators alone and it seemed him as if she was waiting for someone evie saw both jennifer and the man that she had checked in with at the front desk exchanging american money for kroner which is norway currency neither evie or sasha could remember the exact time but evie swears that when she saw jennifer at currency exchange this man was with her now the key cards at the oslo plaza served two purposes the first was obviously to allow guests to get into their rooms but the system of these cards was also able to track when a card was used to enter a room and it kept a log of this the log wouldn't show every time the door was opened so for instance if you were already inside the room and you decided to leave this wouldn't be logged or if someone knocked on your door and you opened it to let them in this wouldn't be logged only if a guest was using their card to enter the room according to the keycard activity log the room was entered only twice the night of check-in the first time was at 10 44 p.m and this would have been after jennifer had checked in and gone up to her room and the second time was 12 21 in the morning now this could have been jennifer entering her room after being seen by sasha in the lobby by the elevators or it could have been jennifer and this unknown male who allegedly would be lewis fergate entering the room after exchanging currency and being seen by evie or maybe they were doing both of these things maybe jennifer was waiting for him by the elevator and then they went over to the currency exchange desk and then they went back up to the room now the card was not used to enter room 2805 again until the next morning thursday june 1st at 8 34 am there were no sightings of jennifer at the hotel that morning and it's worth noting that there was no sightings of this unknown male at the hotel ever again but many people speculate that she could have been returning to her room after having breakfast it's possible that no one saw her having breakfast at the hotel that morning it's also possible she left the hotel to have breakfast outside that morning once again we just can't be sure this same day jennifer approached the front desk and changed her reservation again this time she switched her checkout date from friday to sunday and she was given two new key cards once again she was not asked to provide proof of identification or a credit card and this is something that has always bugged me because it seems to be a huge oversight that a hotel like the plaza would probably not make when evie yertson sasha's supervisor was asked about the fact that a guest was allowed to check in without id or a credit card she said quote it's incomprehensible to me we had strict routines at the hotel it just shouldn't be possible end quote but when sasha the clerk who checked jennifer in was asked about it he claimed that it wasn't out of the realm of possibility saying quote i remember there was a long queue of guests it was all about assigning rooms as quickly as possible we mustn't keep the guests waiting end quote i would be interested to know if sasha or any of the other employees checking guests in on the evening of may 31st had repeated this unfortunate process of not taking payment or identification or if jennifer was the only one who had slipped by without providing these things i've stayed at a lot of hotels in my day and never once have i been given a hotel room without a credit card no matter how busy the hotel is or how long the line is but we'll get into that a bit more later on i guess what i'm trying to say is having her get away without giving id and a credit card once maybe i could understand but twice that's a little bit more difficult to believe so as i said jennifer or someone else used her key card to enter the hotel room that thursday morning at 8 34 a.m and then after this she extends her stay at the plaza but then the key card isn't used to open the door again until the next morning friday june 2nd at 8 50 a.m now this could mean two things jennifer left the hotel directly after going to the front desk and extending her stay or she returned to the room and someone who was already inside opened the door for her so she didn't have to use the room key however two housekeeping employees entered room 2805 using their key cards at 12 44 that thursday afternoon so it was actually one senior housekeeping employee and then another new employee that was being trained now the senior employee claimed that on wednesday the day jennifer checked in she'd been instructed to prepare the room for two people so she had done what's supposed to be done when two guests are sharing a room she made sure that there was enough towels there were two bathrobes two duvets on the bed the housekeeping woman noticed on thursday that only one of the pillows seemed to have been used and the second duvet had been folded and sort of placed off to the side so these women went about their business they restocked the towels and the discarded duvet was folded and placed in the closet instead of on the bed this time while in the room the senior employee also noticed what she called a very nice pair of shoes in a vibrant color that were in the closet and she thought that they were cool and interesting looking which is why she noticed them now the presence of the housekeeping staff in jennifer's room at this time shows that no one else was present in the room meaning jennifer and or the man she was allegedly with who no one ever saw again were not there at this time so at the most jennifer fergate was gone from the plaza hotel for roughly 24 hours and at the least she was gone for 20 hours if we're going on the theory that jennifer returned to the room after getting the new key cards and someone inside the room let her in so that her entry wasn't logged but at some point she left the room before 12 44 and did not return until the next morning at 10 minutes to nine which is still a lot of hours to be gone from a hotel that you're paying over 200 a night to stay in now there's no evidence no trace of where jennifer went while she was gone but she must have stayed the night somewhere unless she walked around oslo all day and all night there isn't even evidence that jennifer remained in oslo she could have easily walked five minutes to the train station and left the city for the night now at some point on thursday while she was gone someone at the front desk was like oh snap we messed up and it was discovered that jennifer fergate in room 2805 had not given them a credit card to put on file so the front desk sent a message to the television in jennifer's room requesting that she contact the cashier and rectify the problem immediately now this would be something that would pop up on your tv so if you were watching something on the tv and the message popped up it wouldn't go away until you'd hit okay and acknowledged that you'd seen it on thursday no one acknowledged that they'd seen this message on friday morning the log showed that the key card opened the room door at 8 50 a.m and at 8 50 a.m that message that had popped up on the television the day before was acknowledged by someone in the room most likely jennifer who had returned turned on the tv and hit okay to make the message go away so that she could watch something but jennifer did not go down and make it right with the cashier now a housekeeping employee named karen levrate who was working on the 28th floor that day was in the hallway getting some things off her cart when she saw jennifer walking down the hall in the direction of her room and as the two women passed each other jennifer told her good morning in english before unlocking her room with the card and entering just a moment later the door opened again and jennifer's hand extended out to hang the do not disturb placard on the doorknob before the door firmly closed so it is speculated that after this jennifer must have left the room and entered again or someone else entered with a key card because the last time the key card was ever used was shortly after this at 1103 and as far as we know jennifer fergate never left that room alive again at 806 pm on friday jennifer ordered bratwurst and potato salad from room service and the employee who delivered it did so at 8 23 pm her name was kristen anderson as is customary especially in nice hotels kristen didn't just drop the food off at the door like doordash and leave she knocked on the door and she rolled the food cart inside so that she could arrange the meal for the guest so she was able to make some observations while inside the room kristen said that the room was very neat and orderly almost sterile as if it hadn't been occupied or lived in much when she saw the bed kristen felt that it had not been slept in since housekeeping had been inside the day before because it was pristine and apparently the hotel staff they had a way of making up the bed that was usually very difficult for guests to replicate anderson also remembered seeing a wheeled suitcase in the room which made her wonder if the woman staying there was a flight attendant because the plaza often had flight attendants as guests kristen believed that at this time jennifer was wearing a long skirt but what got her attention most of all was the large tip that she received from jennifer kristen claimed that jennifer had a 50 kroner note ready in her hand saying quote i got such a big tip she had a 50 kroner note ready it was very unusual for us to get so much of a tip if we got 10 kroner we thought that was a lot she was not interested in small talk i remember it was easy putting the food on the table because there was nothing on it end quote that same night friday someone in the room purchased something to watch on pay-per-view and the next day on saturday another pay-per-view purchase was made now there's no indication in police files of what exactly was purchased or watched now friday night at 8 57 pm the front desk sent another message to jennifer's tv urging her to contact the cashier about getting a credit card on file and once again the message was acknowledged but jennifer did not leave the room sometime between friday and saturday someone in the room removed and drank three sodas from the mini bar a coke a diet coke and an acena orange drink i know this is something small but once again i've gone over every tiny little bit of this case and i think it's strange that one person the same person would drink both coke and diet coke i i don't know unless there was only one of each in the mini bar which is never clarified so if you like coke and then you drink the coke but then there's no more coke maybe you would settle for diet coke but i'm pretty sure if you like the taste of diet coke you don't really like coke and if you don't regularly drink diet soda a diet coke will just taste disgusting to you but that's just my opinion if jennifer was truly the only one in the room it is something that stood out to me there was also a bag of potato chips that was opened from the minibar on saturday june 3rd at 7 35 in the evening another message was sent to the television of room 2805 it was seen acknowledged and dismissed so you might be asking yourself like why did they just go up to her room and knock on her door and ask her to you know put a credit card on file well she had the do not disturb sign on her door since you know friday morning so it is kind of typical for the hotel staff to not disturb a guest when they have the do not disturb sign hung up but at this point it's getting ridiculous right jennifer's seen these messages she's acknowledged them they know she's seeing them so evie yertson who was working the desk that night was like there's something going on here right and an employee was sent up to the 20th floor to see what exactly was going on and she returned with the news that the do not disturb sign was still hanging on the door as it had been since friday morning and they knew this because housekeeping had not been in to clean the room or turn down the bed due to the presence of the sign so the hotel security team was notified and at 7 50 that evening a member of the security team his name was espen nas he knocked on the door of room 2805. now according to aspen just a few moments after he knocked he heard the unmistakable sound of a gunshot from inside the room and at that point he was like oh damn this is not good and he raced to the elevator went down to the lobby where the security office was located and he let his supervisor know what had happened at this point the team decided to call the oslo police and give them the names of the people who were allegedly staying inside the room jennifer and louis fairgate so that they could make sure you know these people weren't known criminals or something and they wouldn't be walking into anything sketchy i'm pretty sure if you hear a gunshot and go off in a room you're going to be walking into something sketchy regardless but i i get it well as it turns out neither jennifer fergate or lewis fergate ever existed they just weren't real people the security supervisor went up to room 2805 at 804 pm and he knocked before using his special security guy key card to enter now i say it was special because the security team were the only ones who had a key card that could bypass the double lock which means that someone inside the room had locked the door from the inside so if any other staff including housekeeping in front desk if they tried to get in their key cards could only open the door if it was not locked from the inside now the security supervisor claims at this point when he used his card to enter that's when he realized the door had been locked from the inside and this will become a huge part of the case especially for me once inside the supervisor said the room was dark the television was on but he couldn't really see like deeply into the room so he called out several times and when no one answered he ventured a bit deeper into the room and that was when he spotted the body of a woman lying on the hotel bed she wasn't moving he was calling out you know hello security she wasn't responding and there was a strange smell in the room a sharp acrid smell so he backed out of there shut the door behind him and called the police according to hotel security and the police the only time the room was left unguarded was the period between 7 50 when the first security guard espen had heard the gunshot and went to the lobby and 804 when the security supervisor arrived on the 28th floor now i'm not sure how this could be the case unless some specific things happened one the security supervisor had a phone on his person that he used to call the police and he remained at the door of the hotel room letting his team know that they should escort the police up when the police arrived which wasn't until about an hour later or if the security supervisor had not gone up to the room alone and he'd had one or more of his team with him and then when he left the room he instructed one of them to go down and call the police and bring them up when they got there now these things could be possible it's just that they've never been explicitly said it makes it seem as if this security supervisor was at the room by himself and then he called the police but he says that the room remained guarded the whole time while they were waiting for the police to get there and while we are waiting for the police to arrive let's talk about this acrid smell that the supervisor noticed when he entered the room i read a screen rant article about this episode of unsolved mysteries and the author of this article seemed to think that the accurate smell could have been a sign that jennifer had died before that saturday and that what the supervisor was smelling was the scent of decomposition i personally disagree acrid is usually a word that's used to describe an unpleasant sharp smell it's what you would smell after walking through a building that had previously been on fire i suppose it could be used to refer to the smell of human decomposition but even if jennifer had died soon after the last sighting of her which had been the morning before it would have still taken at least two days for the smell of her body to be noticeable especially from the entrance of the room while a window in the room was cracked which in this case it was i think it's far more likely that what the security supervisor was smelling was the smell of a gun after it's been shot which if anyone has spent time at a firing range you know exactly what i'm talking about it definitely does have a distinctive smell okay the police are here so let's talk about what they walked into and what was found in the room of jennifer fergate if that is her real name which it wasn't but we're gonna still call her jennifer fergie because i don't know what else to call her it was jennifer's body laying on the bed and the positioning of it was strange in my opinion it was as if she'd sat down at the foot of the bed and then just kind of laid down with the upper part of her body the majority of her upper body was on the bed but her legs from the knee down were off the bed and the bottom of her black heeled shoes were touching the floor in her right hand jennifer was holding a nine millimeter browning pistol a semi-automatic handgun that actually has a very interesting history to it but we'll get there jennifer had died from a bullet wound to the middle of her forehead right here and the hand that held the gun was resting on her chest but the way she was holding the gun was certainly out of the ordinary the back of the gun um where you would [ __ ] it it was pointing in the direction of her shoes and instead of her pointer finger being on the trigger her thumb was she was also dressed all in black black dress black sheer stockings black shoes bra a pair of silky short like underwear and she had a simple gold ring on the middle finger of her right hand the same hand that was holding the gun and on her left wrist she was wearing a citizen aqualand diving watch now i've seen some chatter on the internet that this woman was possibly left-handed but i think the presence of her watch on her left wrist shows that she was in fact right-handed now you might be thinking duh stephanie of course she's right-handed she's holding the gun in her right hand and i'm gonna say for what i'm sure is like the third or fourth time in this video we're gonna get to that now i only watched it twice but in the unsolved mysteries episode i don't believe that they mentioned the fact that there was two bullets shot and if they did in fact leave that out i don't know why they did because it seems kind of important but what do i know the police theorized that the first shot which went through a pillow on the bed before going through the bed and the bed frame and ending up in the concrete floor beneath the bed they thought that this was a test shot and then they believed the second time the gun was shot the second bullet that one had gone through jennifer's head through the bed and also ended up in the concrete floor beneath the bed just about three inches away from what the police believe was the initial test shot bullet the browning had been fully loaded when it had been shot which meant it started off with nine bullets and now there were only seven left what was strange about that first test shot was that it seemed as if it had been shot into the pillow but afterwards the pillow was flipped over which hid the side of the pillow that had the entry point of the bullet the one that was singed from the bullet so going on the police theory she'd shot into the pillow to what make sure the gun worked and then turned the pillow over and then shot herself now when the police removed this gun from jennifer's hand she still had a very tight grip on it and it's reported that when they were finally able to get her thumb off the trigger and remove the gun the forensic tech heard a click and this is significant to police because they claimed that this meant the pressure of her thumb on the trigger had been consistent since she'd fired the gun and the click was the sound of the trigger being you know released there was blood obviously all over the bed there was a blood spattered on the bedside table and on the phone which was located on the bedside table there was blood on the wall and even some blood spattered on the ceiling on the floor to her left were the two spent cartridges from the bullets that had been fired and sitting next to the bed was a black briefcase or attache case but the only thing inside this case were more bullets 25 more nine millimeter bullets to be specific which would have given jennifer 34 bullets in total for her browning pistol so obviously the police are initially going to believe that jennifer fergate took her own life right she checked into the plaza with the specific intention of spending her last days in solitude and luxury with the do not disturb sign on her door planning to end it all which she inevitably did however there was so much more about the scene that didn't really support this very cot and dry theory first of all there was no blood on either of her hands and a later exam would show that there was no gsr or gunshot residue on her hands either tor leave rognam a professor of forensic medicine told vg quote the victim had her thumb on the trigger and fingers around the handle so it's weird that her hands don't have any blood as a criminal investigator i find this extremely eye-catching i expected to find blood on her hands end quote now her hands being free of blood i might be able to overlook but the absence of gsr does make me raise my eyebrows a bit because the police theory was that she'd shot that gun twice remember the test shot and then the shot that eventually ended her life so you'd think there would be some gunshot residue on her hands from two shots now according to the website crime scene investigator.net a common misconception is that a negative gsr result is proof that a person did not actually fire a weapon but there's a few circumstances where the this is not the case a person who fired a gun might have a negative gsr result because a detectable amount of gsr was not deposited but jennifer did allegedly fire this gun twice and at close proximity now a lapse of time between the shooting and the gsr test can also lead to a negative result but this is usually in a case where someone commits a crime with a gun and then the police catch up to them several hours or even several days later so a good amount of time has passed now according to the police theory the security guard had heard the shot through the door the shot that had killed jennifer he'd heard it and the police and forensics team were obviously on the scene within a few hours of this so that wouldn't be the case either there wasn't a lot of time that it passed she wasn't running around oslo you know washing her hands and out in the fresh air she was in the hotel room now the presence of blood or moisture on the hands can also interfere with any gsr which can lead to a negative result but as we know there was no blood on our hands so there really should have been some some residue found in my opinion the gun itself was another mystery they were able to identify it as a browning because the browning nine millimeter pistol was the most common handgun of the post-cold war era and has been called the world military handgun of choice over 90 countries have purchased licensed or imitated the browning to use it for their military and police forces it's been called the first of the wonder nines and it was so popular because it's simple accurate easy to assemble and disassemble and it has a large capacity magazine it was the most common sidearm in nato during the cold war both british and argentinians carried it in the falklands war saddam hussein always had his browning with him he always he loved that thing and he would randomly shoot it into the air to scare the crap out of people and even gaddafi owned a gold-plated browning that had an image of his face etched into its grips it was also the gun of choice for the waffen ss the military branch of the nazi regime so basically this is not an uncommon gun but this one had some oddities about it firstly the serial number had been completely removed and this in itself isn't strange we usually see this with illegal weapons so that they can't be traced but the serial number wasn't just filed off it seemed as if it had been removed with acid and whoever had done it knew exactly how deep they needed to go in order to make sure that the entire serial number would never be retrievable this was done by a professional this was done by somebody who knew what they were doing usually when the serial number is filed off law enforcement and forensics have tools and technology that can help them decipher it but whoever had done this knew exactly what to do so that they they couldn't and they never have been able to even to this day with new technology they've only been able to figure out what a few of the numbers were now they were able to determine that the gun had been produced at a factory in her style belgium in either 1990 or 1991 but that was it that was all they were able to figure out jennifer fergate's fingerprints were found in several places in the hotel room and they were run through interpol but no match was found however her fingerprints or any fingerprints for that matter were not found on the gun or on the bullets inside the gun and there was no gloves located on jennifer or in her hotel room norwegian veteran police officer leonard cadarlin said quote unfortunately it's very difficult to get fingerprints from the firearm the surface and the way the gun is held makes it all extremely difficult end quote okay but no prints on the bullets inside the gun or on the bullets in the briefcase as someone who has loaded and used guns it would be almost impossible to put bullets into a gun without touching them and leaving prince and this is often how criminals are caught by the police they wipe down the gun but they forget about the bullets inside i suppose she could have loaded the gun previously previous to arriving at the hotel using gloves but why would she do that if she was gonna leave her prince all over the hotel room and on that note if jennifer's plan was to go to the hotel and end her life the whole time why in the world would she bring a loaded gun and 25 additional bullets in my opinion this is something you would have with you for protection not suicide and why do a test shot first shooting through the bed there are a hundred easier and less painful ways to die than by bullets if that's what you really wanted to do and your life it could have been done a million different ways but if it was me personally and i'm about to put a gun to my head i don't want to do a test chat first because it's going to scare the crap out of me but that's just me you know and i'm kind of a wimp when it comes to things like that i guess on top of all that though many people don't understand how jennifer retained her grip on the gun after shooting herself the browning is a powerful weapon which would have a pretty powerful recoil so the position she was found in it looked almost staged you would expect to see the gun fly out of her hand due to the recoil you'd expect to see her hand lying limpy either at her side or even off the bed but her hand was lying neatly on her chest right with the gun still in it firmly in her grasp now there is something called a cadaveric spasm which some have pointed to in order to explain why jennifer was still holding the gun sometimes the muscles stiffen at the moment of death and it is a stronger stiffening than rigor mortis so technically if that happened jennifer would have been able to hold onto the gun but this is pretty rare it certainly doesn't happen in every case and it still doesn't explain how she got her hand to her chest after shooting herself in the head i mean i don't want to be graphic but i figure if you shoot yourself in the head and you're laying down your hand's going to fall here not here right i don't know let me know what you think let's talk about what else was in the hotel room on a table next to the window there was a plate of partially eaten bratwurst and potato salad the same meal that jennifer had ordered from room service friday night now keep in mind this was saturday night but when an autopsy was later done the medical examiner found undigested food in jennifer's stomach and the food was bratwurst and potato salad which led to the conclusion that she must have eaten it the same day she died which is strange because she had ordered it 24 hours prior to her death so either she ate some of it friday night and ate some more of it on saturday which i find hard to believe because one that's gross there's like no refrigerator there's no way to like keep it you know fresh there's no way to heat it up gross and two as you can see by this picture there really wasn't much of it eaten there's still plenty of food left so that's weird to me that she'd order something friday night and it would still be found in her stomach undigested saturday night and that is one of the most telling pieces of evidence for those who believe she died prior to saturday nights that's one of the most telling pieces of evidence that would support that theory now jennifer had some clothing in her room besides what she was wearing and her wardrobe choices were notable for several reasons firstly they were all very nice well-made sophisticated clothes in a sort of monochromatic color scheme you know a lot of neutral and dark colors she had four jackets one shirt one sweater four bras and two pairs of silky underwear shorts but no pants no skirts nothing nothing for the bottom of her body additionally the tags on her clothes had all been removed and this brings me right back to the isdel woman case another unidentified woman who was found with the tags cut out of her clothes in norway actually in the hotel room there was only one pair of shoes found in the room and those were the black shoes that she was wearing and the manufacturer's name had been rubbed out of them but i believe you could still see the words made in italy now the only items in the room that still had any identifiable tags or marks on them was one blazer and that was a renee lazard brand there was a green bag in a chair next to the table in the hotel room and this was travel light brand and the attache or briefcase which was leather and that was made by braun buffet now next to the plate of food on the table was a bottle of men's cologne it was called ungaro aside from the cologne though there was no other personal care items in the hotel room at all no toothpaste or toothbrush no shampoo or conditioner no makeup or skin care products which was strange because when jennifer was found she was wearing eyeliner but there wasn't an eyeliner to be found in the room however there was evidence that someone in the room had taken a shower a bathrobe had been removed from the bathroom and thrown on the bed housekeeping who'd been in the room on thursday had put another set of towels in the bathroom and taken the used ones away in the crime scene photos taken on saturday the day jennifer was found you can see a used towel on the floor next to the bathtub you can also see the soap that the hotel provided it had been opened and used and was found in the sink and a mini bottle of shampoo also provided by the hotel had been opened as well and used if she had no makeup in the room but she had taken a shower what did she use to apply her eyeliner after showering and washing her hair it's pretty difficult to wash your hair and not get water on your face and unless this was the most waterproof eyeliner ever created in the history of the world where it lasted for days without coming off it just doesn't make any sense in the green travel light bag police found a pair of black stockings three bras and a black silk top in the chair opposite the travelite bag a white item can be seen in the crime scene photos but it's not noted in the police reports so it's not even mentioned they don't say what it is but the staff members of the plaza believe that it was a rolled up bed spread and remember that duvet that the staff had found in the room on thursday remember there had been two duvets placed in the room wednesday because they were told to get the room ready for two guests jennifer and louis fairgate but after the first night the staff saw that she'd only used one pillow and that the second duvet had been folded and put to the side so the staff folded it up and put in the closet when the police entered the room on saturday that second duvet was out of the closet and on the bed additionally that fancy pair of vibrant shoes that one of the staff had made note of they were nowhere to be found in the room and the suitcase on wheels that kristen anderson had seen on friday was not there either neither was the long skirt that kristen had claimed jennifer was wearing when she brought the room service in on friday but as far as anyone could tell jennifer had not left the room from friday morning to saturday night so where had these things gone on the other side of the room there was a counter where the mini bar was located and that's where the three bottles of soda and the open bag of potato chips were found along with a bag that held a newspaper a usa today newspaper the paper was provided to each guest by the hotel and would be delivered to the rooms that were indicated by the room number on the bag now on this bag that held the newspaper a fingerprint was found the only fingerprint in the room that was not jennifer's additionally it was not jennifer's room number on the bag it was room 2816 which was on the same floor and across the hall from jennifer now this fingerprint was apparently entered into interpol in 2017 but i've heard no word on whether or not they found a match and you think that they would know by now and there is no indication that at this time in 1995 the police even questioned the person who'd been staying in room 2816 during the dates of may 31st to june 3rd and by the time the media outlet vg began investigating the hotel no longer had records from that year now there were other people staying on the floor that both the police and vg questioned we'll get to that in a moment next to the minibar table there was an ironing board leaning against the wall and an iron that was placed on the luggage holder but the hotel had no record of jennifer ordering these things to her room and in 1995 they wouldn't have provided these things to the room without a request and there's no record of a request the luggage table also held the long leather jacket that jennifer had been wearing when she checked into the hotel which could have hid the fact that she wasn't wearing pants unless when she checked in she was wearing the same clothes that she eventually died in which was the black stockings in black dress and that is very possible also absent from the room was pretty much everything you would expect someone to have there was no identification no passport no wallet no purse no car keys no house keys no money no receipts for purchases no plane tickets or train tickets no travel itinerary no books no magazines no pictures no personal items whatsoever anything that could possibly point to the identity of this woman was missing from the room now was it missing because she had never brought it or was it missing because somebody had taken it maybe put all that stuff into that rolly little suitcase and left now like i said at first the police thought you know this was just a sad case of a woman taking her own life but as soon as they saw the discrepancies with the lack of blood and gunshot residue on her hands as well as the lengths that she had taken to conceal her identity including checking into the hotel under a fake name they began trying to figure out who she really was and they considered the possibility that someone else might have been involved with her death she had booked to the room for two people after all herself and a lewis fairgate but aside from the possible sightings of a man with her that first night she checked in no one else had ever seen a man with her at any other time and there was no indication that anyone had been in the hotel room with her besides maybe that men's cologne but i wear men's cologne sometimes because i like how it smells so i certainly wouldn't say that's solid evidence of the presence of another person so they decided to start with the information that they had which was the information that she'd written down on her registration card her address her phone number the company she worked for etc now the address she'd written down was in the town of verlaine belgium the address just didn't exist in the unsolved mysteries episode a journalist from vg who'd been looking into jennifer's case for years he actually traveled to verlaine and he found a rudilla station in berlin but the house numbers only went up to 98 and she'd written down 148 and additionally she'd written down not station but stedate i believe s-t-e-d-a-t-e that's probably not the right way to pronounce it but that's what she wrote down however the handwriting is kind of messy you know it's a very small space to write a lot of stuff so she could have just been writing over what she'd already written and it could be not clear maybe she meant to write something else but that address was not in verlaine regardless additionally the zip code that she wrote down 7968 it wasn't even berlin's zip code now in the show they claim the zip code doesn't exist and i guess in a way it doesn't exist in belgium but when you type it into google 7968 is in fact a postal code in hungary in a place i cannot pronounce it won't even try to pronounce because i just can't i'm looking at it right now i can't i can't pronounce it but i'm going to place it on the screen for you if i was going to try to pronounce it i would say it was felso zentamartone but i know it's wrong the phone number that jennifer wrote down was not in service either but it was at least a belgian area code while the vg journalist lars christian wagner was in verlaine he spoke to the mayor of the town who'd lived there his whole life lars felt that there must have been some reason jennifer used belgium so much like maybe she knew someone there or she'd lived there for a portion of her childhood or she was familiar with the area she gave her address as being in belgium her phone number her place of work she even made two calls from the hotel to belgium area codes but neither of these numbers she called was a real number either so the mayor looked at her picture and he was like no you know i've never seen her i don't recognize her and neither did any of the other people living in verlaine and it's not a big town now jennifer had written service down as her employer c-e-r-b-i-s but no such company was found in belgium so they concluded that it didn't exist and it was another false lead now i remember seeing the word service somewhere so i did some googling and i found out that service is an acronym for civil engineering research based initiative services uh so it's a thing maybe she wrote down service meaning for it to be an occupation not a company maybe she was a civil engineer or maybe that was her cover story at least because i think we all know where i'm going with this right i believe jennifer fairgate was an intelligence agent a real life spy i'm going to jump ahead a bit and then come back because there is a discussion i want to have since i believe this woman was from germany in november of 2016 jennifer's body was exhumed so they could use new technology to see if they could figure out more about her exactly in the same way that they tested the isdel woman's teeth jennifer's teeth were tested as well now during the cold war between 1955 and 1963 there had been above-ground nuclear test bombs that were set off all over the world and this stupid testing increased the levels of c14 in the atmosphere so people born during and after this time would have increased levels of c14 in the enamel of their teeth and probably all over their bodies it's just awful to think about but based on the amount found in the enamel of the teeth compared to the amount that was in the atmosphere during specific years they were able to determine that jennifer was most likely born in 1971 not 1974 as she'd written down she had claimed to be 21 by giving her birth date as 1974. the medical examiner who performed her autopsy put her age closer to 30 and this testing put her age at 24 in 1995. it was also discovered that she was of european descent most likely from the area of germany and more specifically east germany she'd also had dental work done using gold and porcelain which would not have been cheap by the way it was widely used in the united states but also in some parts of europe including the netherlands switzerland and germany so let's talk about the things jennifer had that can be tracked her watch was a citizen watch that had been made in japan interpol conducted an investigation of the japanese watch factory and found out that the watch was three years old and it had been made in 1992 but there was no record of who had sold it or who it had been sold to inside the watch were three 370 type batteries made by the swiss battery factory renata the batteries had been made in 1994 and the factory told investigators that they had been sent out to wholesalers and dealers in december of 1994 and january of 1995 but the factory produced millions of batteries a month so there was no way to determine where these three batteries had ended up each of the batteries were hand inscribed with w395 which is apparently how watchmakers notate the date of a battery change in a watch w395 most likely meant that the batteries had been replaced in march of 1995 just three months before she died and they had been replaced by a watchmaker with the initial of w now the men's cologne on garo i found out that it had been launched in 1991 and you know it seems to be pretty generic it was very popular it was widely available widely purchased widely used at the time and you could have gotten it at any walmart or drugstore now the black leather attache which was made by braun buffet a german designer of luxury and leather goods since 1887 that is a little bit more interesting in 1995 braun buffet had no stores in norway or belgium or the united states but they did have 13 stores in germany and this is 1995. so buying things on the internet it certainly wasn't as common as it is today the brand also seemed to be pretty expensive anywhere from six to eight hundred dollars for a briefcase which is certainly more than i would ever pay for a bag to hold my bullets now the brand renee lizard that was who made one of jennifer's blazers that's also a german brand a medium-sized german fashion group founded in 1978 located in wurzburg now they make clothes for what is known as the gold range which is considered you know not high fashion but not mass market either and the clothes are described as being smart and sober like a northern european city in the rain or snow now today rene lazard still has no stores in norway so they didn't have them in 1995 either though they did have several in germany in fact renee lazar didn't even make it to the united states until 1997 when they opened their first u.s store in new york city's soho district so um i think that jennifer probably bought her renee lazard laser and her attache told her bullets she probably bought those in germany i'm going to assume the travel light bag the green one that's also a german company a german manufactured company but those seem to be kind of more readily available like easier to get um i couldn't really track down a lot about it every time i type it in it just comes up with like amazon links which is so annoying like jeff bezos can you please just get out of you know every aspect of my life please for a second and it was hard to kind of track it back to like an origin point or figure out you know when they became more mainstream and started selling to different areas of of the world but from these these possessions she had that we can track down i i can tell that she clearly had some money at some point right renee lazard clothes aren't cheap her briefcase was hella expensive the citizen watch would have run her you know between three and five hundred dollars and even though no money or cash was found in her room she must have had money at some point because she tipped very well for her room service maybe she tipped so much because it was like the last of the cast she had and she wanted to get rid of it knowing that she wasn't going to be around for much longer for whatever reason whether or not you know someone was after her or she was planning to take her own life i don't know but she clearly used belgium as her cover story right and some people speculate that she made calls from the hotel two belgium area codes that were you know maybe wrong numbers maybe she couldn't remember the number of who she was trying to call or maybe she'd gotten their number wrong so she she kept trying to you know call this person i don't know what those numbers are i would have to see them and see if they were comparable like you know is there just one number difference that would be more indicative to me that she was trying to remember a number personally what i think it was was just another part of her cover so if she makes two calls to area codes that are in the country that she claims to live in you know if anybody comes looking for her after or is questioning who she was they might just look at her phone history and be like oh yeah she called you know the country that she lives in so that's great i think it was part of her cover but that's just my opinion now let's talk about the other guests who are staying on the 28th floor at the plaza at this time and as i go through this i'm going to place a graphic on the screen for you to follow along so there was room 2803 which was the room next to jennifer's and this room was vacant at the time of the incident room 2801 which was next to the vacant room was occupied by the nilsborgs and they had not heard or seen anything worth reporting room 2806 which was across the hall and to the left of jennifer's room was occupied by the hogstodds and they also didn't hear or see anything worth reporting room 2807 was the room directly to jennifer's left and that was occupied by the zobrists who also heard nothing and saw nothing the only person who thought they heard something was a woman staying in room 2816 which was across and down the hall from jennifer's she claimed that in the middle of the night she was woken up by the sound of a door closing like a muffled thud now i tend to believe that what she heard is not related to what happened to jennifer considering she was the furthest room away from jennifer's and none of the rooms that were closer to jennifer heard anything especially the one right next to her that was occupied and jennifer didn't die in the middle of the night if we believe the police timeline now the room directly across from jennifer's room 2804 has a little bit more of an interesting story to it a man who was staying there was tracked down by vg and it turns out that he was a belgium businessman who was in oslo for work and he checked in on friday and checked out on saturday morning the oslo police never interviewed him but when vg found him he didn't want to talk he like wouldn't open the door and he told them through the closed door that he was not available to talk so vg and lars wagner continued trying to contact him and finally a few days later this man who's referred to only as mr f he called lars and he's like you know what's this all about why are you trying to talk to me and lars explained about jennifer's death and asked if mr f had seen or heard anything since he'd been staying directly across the hall from jennifer now mr f told lars quote i remember that incident very well because they asked me about it at reception before i left the hotel someone asked me had i heard or seen anything because it occurred in the same hallway but i slept my night well and didn't know anything about it end quote which would have been fine except mr f had allegedly checked out saturday morning according to him and jennifer wasn't found dead until saturday evening so lars asked mr f uh how were you asked about a death that hadn't happened yet to which mr f responded quote i don't know anything about that i only remember them asking me that's all i know end quote and that was the last time mr f talked to lars or anyone else he declined to have any further comment now the strange thing is it seemed as if the plaza hotel didn't really want to cooperate with vg either the paper reported quote hotel management does not want vg to talk with the reception worker who spoke twice to fergate in fact the hotel doesn't want vg to interview any workers of the hotel either current or retired end quote now the person that was staying in room 2816 is still unknown like i said but i think the presence of the paper in jennifer's room could have easily been a mistake made by the hotel they may have dropped the wrong paper at the wrong room and the fingerprint on that bag may very well turn out to be one of the hotel staff members but of course there could be less innocent and more nefarious reasons for its presence in her room during the autopsy three days after her death jennifer was tested for alcohol which came back negative but she was tested for no other drugs her fingernails were not scraped to see if she'd been involved in a struggle and you know gotten her attacker and she was not examined for signs of sexual activity prior to her death or sexual assault after an investigation the oslo police could find nothing that suggested jennifer's death had been the result of a homicide and they ruled it as 99.9 percent suicide and they buried her they waited a year in case anybody came forward and claimed her but after that year had passed they destroyed all of her belongings and all of the evidence except for her ring and her watch which were sold at auction and the browning pistol which was kept by the police as an example of what a gun looked like when the serial number had been expertly removed now a huge driving force for the reason police believed no one else could have been responsible was the fact that jennifer's room had been locked from the inside and they didn't believe there was any way for someone to have been in the room when she was killed and then leave the room with it still remaining locked from the inside there were of course windows in the room but no balcony that someone could have climbed out onto now i have some problems with this being their main piece of evidence against foul play because the only reason the police think that they know it was double locked was because the security supervisor said that when he opened it with his key card he found out that it was double locked and even if it was double locked it's not as if it would have been impossible to leave the room in the amount of time that the door wasn't guarded and then make it look as if the door had been locked from the inside i looked it up it's possible especially with key cards additionally the hotel did have security cameras but there's no indication that the police ever requested or viewed the footage which seems to be a huge missed opportunity right and there are so many questions left unanswered why did she use a fake identity to check in how was she able to check into the hotel and stay there for so long without providing valid id and payment information who was lewis fergate and if she checked into the hotel to end her life why would she bother even mentioning that there was another guest with her if there wasn't where did she go for those 20-something hours that she wasn't in her room why would she bring so many bullets if she planned only to take one life her own why has no one ever come forward to claim her or to even say that they knew her or recognized her let's start with the most simple theory that this was in fact just a sad suicide jennifer was for some reason sad and depressed enough to want to end it all she wanted to make sure that she would have privacy and not be bothered so she checked into the plaza to carry out her plan a day into her stay she decided that she wanted a little more time so she extended her stay at the hotel she sat in her room and watched television she ordered room service she drank soda ate chips but she kept getting these annoying messages to her television telling her that she needed to pay for her hotel stay and she kept discarding the messages but she most likely knew they were on to her so she took a shower dressed in her best black clothes dressed for her own funeral you could say and when she heard the knock on her door and someone announced themselves as security she realized you know the gig was up her time had ended and then she shot herself it still doesn't really explain why she would keep her identity a secret she clearly had some money she probably could have paid for the hotel stay so she's just a regular person with really nothing to hide she probably could have given the hotel a valid credit card you know but she didn't maybe she didn't want her family and loved ones to find out what had happened to her so she didn't want to use her real name at the hotel at all but since her death the story of what happened to her has been talked about worldwide and no one has ever come forward to say that they knew her it's as if she was a ghost another thought i had was that jennifer could have been having an affair with someone else who was staying at the hotel at that time this would explain her overnight absence from her room she was in her lover's room it would also explain why she wanted to check in using a fake name maybe the person that she was there to see was married maybe his wife knew about jennifer had found out about their affair and you know he'd convinced his wife like it's over and he'd also convinced his wife that he was just in oslo on business but you know his wife's not dumb so she's gonna call the hotel to see if her husband's girlfriend is also checked in and staying there and this way if she called the hotel she wouldn't find what she was looking for because jennifer had used a fake name maybe the person staying in room 2816 was jennifer's lover and he was the man she'd been seen with at reception and exchanging currency and he'd accidentally left his paper in her room or maybe mr f the belgium businessman was the one that she was there to see and that's why he acted so shady when questioned because he didn't want his wife to find out maybe jennifer had planned to spend her last days with her lover and then just take her life because she was in love with him but she knew that he would never leave his wife or they would never be together and so she just wanted to end it all or maybe he was the one who killed her right this lover whether it be um you know mr f or the guy in room 2816 maybe they were having such a great time together on thursday when they were together all day and jennifer said i wish it could be like this for always and he was like but it can't be and she's like well i could be if i tell your wife you know and maybe this guy was like i can't have this woman ruin my life and he killed her these are obviously theories but it's not like any of this stuff hasn't happened before right and i would be interested to see if this hotel had rooms that were adjoined by doors as many hotels do so sometimes there's adjoining rooms and then there's a door in between the two rooms not the door that goes out to the hall but a door that goes right into the other room as we know one of the rooms next to jennifer's to her right was vacant at that time and if someone knew what they were doing they could easily slip into the next room and leave through the door of that room and out into the hallway walking away as if nothing had happened after they killed her which would also explain why the door was still locked from the inside now stephen pacheco of trace evidence podcast he also had an interesting theory that i wanted to touch on because i'd never thought of it before and i think it's you know very valid so as we know two shots were fired that night the first was what police believed to be a test shot now steven wonders if the first shot was actually the one that had killed jennifer so someone came in to kill her maybe they knocked on the door she let them in they argued they fought whatever they snuck up on her who knows they climbed on top of her and shot her then in order to make it look as if she'd done it herself the person put the gun in her hand and shot through the bed again before staging her body putting the gun in her hand you know wrapping her bum around it and then putting it on her chest the whole test shot thing just has never made sense to me and this does seem more possible i do think that jennifer fergate was in intelligence though and i'm not alone in feeling that way i also believe there's no way no way that she checked into the hotel without providing id or a credit card unless someone at the hotel was helping her maybe this is why the plaza did not want sasha to talk to vg because they also knew that something was really off about the situation like i said at the start of the video i would be interested to know if any other guests were allowed to check in that night without these required items or if jennifer was the only one sasha's supervisor was like no there's no way this could have happened we have policies in place this is unprecedented and sasha was like yeah definitely it could happen it was a long line you know gotta get the guests in their rooms happens all the time if jennifer was a spy trying to hide out in this hotel and not you know have anybody find her she would have known that the busiest time at the plaza was when the last two or three planes came into oslo and everybody was checking in so she would have strategically planned to come in at that time i don't believe that she arrived in oslo on a plane i think she came in via train but that's a whole nother conversation the train station was just like five minutes away i think she had a passport a fake passport at one point that she used to you know board the train and come from whatever country she'd come from into norway and into oslo but i think she got rid of it before she went to the hotel because her identity was compromised so jennifer gets to the plaza she doesn't have id she knows it's busy she picks the guy who looks like he cares about his job the least and she walks up to him and she's like i'm checking in but then she tells him listen i'm hiding from an abusive ex-boyfriend he's crazy he's gonna kill me i don't want him to find me uh can we just act like you forgot to get my id and credit card i'm gonna slip you like a crap ton of money right now okay it is very possible that sasha could have just pocketed the money and looked the other way i cannot explain why the next day when she extended her stay and was again not asked for these things how she got away with it unless sasha was behind the desk again or she just paid off another employee and told them the same story but the fact that she was in the possession of an untraceable gun and a crap ton of ammo the fact that there was no sign of who she was in that room or on her person the fact that she removed the labels from her clothes which is a common spy thing to do so that no one can trace you back to a country or a place it all just seems much too professional and planned her absence from her hotel for the entire day and night of thursday could mean that she either had a secondary place or location in oslo that she was staying which spies do usually have these secondary sites as a backup or she was out on a mission maybe she was tracking someone and they figured it out so they followed her back to the hotel and killed her maybe she was trying to get out of the spy game and she was meeting with someone who she thought was a friend and an ally someone who was going to help her but who was actually sent there to neutralize her and they followed her back to the hotel and killed her maybe her mission was to track or follow someone in that same hotel the belgium businessman or the mystery person in room 2816 and these people or this person figured out who she was and what she was doing and they killed her maybe the reason she had room 2816's paper was because she was attempting to identify who he was or who she was using the paper and she snatched it either from the room inside the room or from outside of the room after had been left out with old room service dishes or something there's a million options but in unsolved mysteries a man named ola keldager who'd been an e14 group leader for the norwegian secret service was interviewed for this show and he was asked about jennifer and he believes that jennifer was a spy based on the evidence in fact when he was asked if not intelligence what could it be calida responded quote i can't imagine that it could be anything else end quote he says the locked door means nothing claiming that there's no such thing as locked doors for intelligence agents online i found an article written in 2016 where a hacker named cody brecochus who was a mozola software developer he explained to an entire black hat conference how easy it was to gain instant untraceable access to millions of hotel rooms that were protected by key card locks made by onity and he did this by using a 32-bit key that would identify the specific hotel when plugged in to the dc power socket at the base of every door lock that uses key cards and he showed that the whole process from plugging this thing into the door to opening the door takes only 200 milliseconds this can also be reverse engineered to lock a door behind you so someone could have locked the door from the outside and i know this all sounds crazy you're over here thinking stephanie's lost it and you're thinking 2016 is you know a far distance from 1995 but you guys have to consider this intelligence agencies have this kind of technology decades before the rest of us figure it out and this is once again assuming that the door was even locked from the inside because the only proof that we have is the security guy opening it and being like oh yeah i was double locked you know now during unsolved mysteries they mentioned the oslo accords and how norway and the oslo plaza hotel were important players in this agreement the oslo accords made me think of the tensions between israel and palestine and the accords were intended to bring peace right to lessen those tensions this happened in 1993 when the accords were signed but in 1995 the israeli prime minister yitzha rabin was assassinated on november 4th during a peace rally in tel aviv 1995 is the same year that we find jennifer dead in the plaza hotel in oslo and robin was actually killed by a 25 year old israeli extremist specifically because he had participated in the oslo accords and you know this extremist did not want him to do this like there was people who just didn't want peace and didn't want i mean it's much more complicated than that i know i'm boiling it down because we don't have a lot of time to just talk about this for hours which i could but obviously based on certain people's beliefs they don't want to get along with certain other people and usually it's about religion and a fight for territory and land and a right to be who you are and believe what you want to believe and then there's a lot of that on both sides so this young man who killed the prime minister he did it because he was mad that you know robin was trying to make peace with palestine so all of this then made me think about east germany after world war ii and how they were never big fans of israel to the point where even after the berlin wall fell in 1989 i believe it was there was still no ambassador's exchange between israel and east germany in fact east germany did happen to be a big supporter of the palestine liberation organization and supplied them with funds and weapons in their their fights against israel you could argue that after 1990 after the fall of the berlin wall the east germany secret service which was called the stasi it was also disbanded that's the official word but that's not necessarily true and i mean this could be a whole video but there is evidence that the the stasi continued uh there's evidence that members of the stasi were not punished they weren't uh brought to task for the horrible things that they had done but they continued to be active well into the 2000s if jennifer's presence in oslo was of the undercover nature and possibly related to the oslo accords and maybe to the assassination of israel's prime minister it's very possible she could have been connected to the east german secret police she would have been born in a time when the berlin wall was still up when communism and terror were alive and well in east germany and you know ideologies like this that are ingrained in you from birth they don't just vanish when a wall is taken down i'm going to link an article i read called east germany's stasi a quarter century after it was dissolved and this article was written in 2014 but it's really interesting um and it'll send you down a rabbit hole if you're interested in that kind of stuff and if anyone's interested in a quick five-minute history of how east germany even became a thing and then wasn't a thing again i'll throw it in at the end of the video anyways if jennifer was a spy it makes sense why no one would come forward and claim her cal dagger said that in situations like these both sides would keep quiet and the side she was on uh the intelligence agency that she was part of they would go to her family and tell them you know listen your daughter died a hero but you need to remain quiet for national security because that's always that's always what these intelligence agencies say everything's a matter of national security and then the agency would make sure that this family was you know financially taken care of for the rest of their lives to keep them quiet so that they wouldn't come forward and say that's my daughter that's my sister that's my mother is my friend now that is why this is my main theory but i'm very interested in hearing what you all have to say about it and what you think of this case what are your main theories you know put them in the comment section i would love to hear about it now for the five minute history lesson of how germany became so fractured after world war ii which led to a lot of bad years and bad times in east germany now this is a quick rundown obviously i'm not going to hit on every detail but it's just a brief overview for like understanding purposes um so i know there's going to be people who are like you missed this you're being very reductive yes the five minute history all right so the soviet union signed a non-aggression pact with nazi germany in august of 1939 and this was called the molotov ribbon trop pact and it's not molotov after the cocktail it's molotov after one of the guys who signed the pact now this pact was basically like a written agreement of peace between um germany nazi germany and the soviet union so hitler and stalin right those are the two the two main guys we're dealing with right now and they would promise each other that they wouldn't aid or um ally with any enemies of the other so pretty much like the allied powers like they're not going to hook up with the united states or france or the uk and help so germany invaded poland on september 1st 1939 and this launches world war ii and then stalin he waited you know a couple weeks he was like i'll give hitler a chance to get in there get settled and he went in on september 17th and he also invaded poland so stalin and hitler are like you know pigs and [ __ ] right now they're just loving themselves loving their lives just invading everyone and taking whatever they want because see there's like a secret portion in that non-aggression pact between stalin and hitler so basically they were like any countries we invade and take over we're gonna like divide those amongst ourselves into spheres of influence and listen stalin he was holding up his end okay he was being a good buddy to hitler he even signed a neutrality pact in april of 1941 with japan because japan had signed a tripartite pact with germany and italy the previous year so they were kind of like in a legit alliance and even though the soviet union wasn't technically in their legit alliance yet stalin was like i want to show hitler i'm serious about this like i'm a good friend i'm loyal and i keep my word but what he didn't know was that hitler had been planning to attack the soviet union since the summer of 1940 literally like before they even signed their non-aggression pact and on june 22 1941 hitler did attack the soviet union operation barbosa and this officially you know like null and voids that molotov ribbon trap pact the non-aggression pact so stalin's like well screw this guy man i'm gonna go over to the allied powers and i'm gonna make noise with them so from november 28th to december 1st i believe 1941 stalin meets with winston churchill and fdr at the t-ron conference and they want to talk about what a two-front war on germany would look like and a two-front war basically means like i'm the soviet union i'm huge i'm over here i'm gonna like attack them and then you're like the allied powers over here and you're gonna attack germany too so we're gonna like ah to front them and to be fair without the help of the soviet union although stalin was not like the super nicest guy ever uh we probably would have had a harder time winning world war two might not have even been possible and the soviet union really did suffer a lot of losses in fact their loss of life was more than anybody else who was involved in the war so berlin fell to the soviets in 1945 uh the soviet union lost like 20 million people and i believe that's just the people who were fighting not like civilians and things like that it was a rough war i think the number is something like one-third of all of the world war ii casualties happened um from the soviet union or in the soviet union they didn't kill one-third of the casualties they were one-third of the casualties that's a lot so then we have allied occupied germany so they took a portion of germany and they split it up amongst the the four allied powers the soviet union uh the uk the us and france and at first the soviet union was like france really they get some stuff they didn't even do anything right that's what the soviet union really said most likely that's what stalin actually said but basically um the allied powers they asserted their sovereignty over over this portion of germany that they had they'd taken over it was bad it was bad for the german people um i don't i don't think it was really i mean i know world war ii was bad the holocaust was bad but there were so many citizens in germany who did not agree with what was going on who didn't partake in it who even helped in any way they could uh they they were severely punished for this so the four powers they take occupy germany and they divide it into four like sections berlin happened to be smack dab in the middle of the soviet union's section but because berlin was the capital of nazi germany berlin was the most heavily populated city in germany it was like a very important city they actually took berlin and they split berlin up as well so it was bad you know all over for anybody in occupied germany but obviously the areas where the soviet union were you know controlling they they were the worst because stalin's pissed stalin's pissed that hitler made him look stupid stalin's pissed that he had to lose so many people and so much money fighting this war so he's being vindictive right now he wants to take it out on the people of germany and he also wants the people of germany to be super communist because that's what he was so he stripped his portions of germany like all their manufacturing equipment he said was reparations for uh you know what he had lost in the war and basically east germany it's in a bad state it falls into like poverty quality of life spiraling all over germany but specifically in east germany it's bad because you know communism really has never been successful anywhere it's just it's not it's not a great idea um especially when you have a dictator like stalin but in the western occupied sector the us and the uk and france are like this isn't really a good idea like we don't want to make these people become dependent on us what we want to do is you know make sure like all the nazi [ __ ] is gone but then we want to give them a chance to provide for themselves and hold free and fair democratic elections and you know get good leaders in here like we're not trying to be here forever it seems like stalin's trying to be there forever so uh they began investing in like german industry trying to put money back into germany i think it was 1949 when the marshall plan came no it was 1947. i just looked it up but this was a basically uh just a plan to bring aid to germany and everybody in in eastern germany is like yo they're getting aid they're getting like help you know the the uk and the us and france they're like putting money into their part of the country like what's happening here and stalin was like that's not going to happen here okay because i've got my own plan for economic stimulation communism so further divisions happening between east and west germany and nowhere is this more evident than berlin which is smack dab in the middle of soviet territory but also split in half too so stalin cuts off all of the roads that go into berlin so that the allied powers or the western the western rulers of germany they can't go into berlin so then the us uk france they start airlifting food and supplies into you know their people that are in berlin because they're not going to just leave them to stalin and they did this for roughly a year i think 11 months and by 1949 basically um germany wasn't occupied any longer right but it technically it still was pretty messed up i know for a fact that the allied powers so uh the uk and the us and france like they were out of there by 1949 1950 and they'd allowed germany to kind of hold their own elections and bring in like democratic leaders but berlin was still this huge issue right because west berlin was still aligning itself with western germany even though they were technically in like eastern germany and uh the people in east berlin were looking at west berlin and they're like you guys have food you guys are like having concerts there's music playing people are happy there's education going on everybody's doing well you own your own home what and the people in west berlin are looking at people in east berlin they're like oh that's so sad that you're not allowed to have any property and you have to work all day long but have nothing at the end of it that sucks because people were leaving east berlin right they were looking over at west berlin they're like obviously things are better there so they're all defecting they're going over to uh west berlin so during the cold war right the berlin wall was built by the german democratic republic which is anything but not really a democratic republic at that time at least because they were losing people they were losing important people skilled laborers they were losing intellectuals they were losing people that were helping the the country and they didn't want to lose those people but those people didn't want to be there because they didn't want to be giving all of their skills and get nothing back forward and that's where communism really has a failing place it's fine to envision a socialist utopia it's even fine to you know try to enact certain socialist kind of policies but straight out communism is bad because you have a lack of creativity you have a lack of invention of innovation because people are motivated by money and they're motivated by you know um recognition and things like that but in in the soviet union during communism it was like it doesn't matter if you come up with the most in amazing invention like you're not going to get paid for it it belongs to the state nothing belongs to you you don't get recognition for that and a lot of terrible things happened in the soviet union there was this group of farmers i can't remember what they were called but they they basically had started off in poverty and then as the years went on they like worked their way up to the point where they weren't just farming on other people's land they were having their own land and then they had their own farms and then they became successful communism hits russia and then you got some guy standing in front of you being like yeah i know you worked your butt off to go from the bottom to the top but now i'm gonna take everything from you and if you don't like that i'm going to kill you or put you in a re-education camp which is basically the same thing so it was just bad but that's basically me rambling for 10 minutes about germany after world war ii and there's so much more that i could have said and would have wanted to say but uh that will be for another day or maybe another discussion over a nice bottle of wine someplace when we all can get together someday and we can talk about history and true crime and mystery and all of these things thank you guys so much for being here with me don't forget to hit subscribe if you haven't subscribed yet and if you are subscribed already remember to check and make sure you still are because youtube unsubscribes people for my channel probably especially after this video because i said the word gun like a million times also hit the like button if you liked it share it if you think it's worth sharing leave me a comment let me know what you thought subscribe to crime weekly my podcast that i host or co-host with my co-host derek lavasser retired police detective every friday new episodes come out 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Channel: Stephanie Harlowe
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Keywords: stephanie harlowe, true crime, jennifer fergate, oslo woman, jennifer fairgate, mystery, room 2805
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Length: 91min 16sec (5476 seconds)
Published: Mon Feb 01 2021
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