China PC Build: Weird Computer Part Shopping in SEG E-Market, Shenzhen

they run we're at the world's largest electronics market we are at SC GE market and watchon Bay in China which is within shenzhen one of the largest cities we've ever been in what we're going to do is walk through ten floors and try to build a computer we're not going for the cheapest build possible we just buy on Aliexpress and ship it for that instead we are going for the most unique so our goals today are to find a very unique case we're going to try to find some open-loop water cooling but we'll see if we have to settle and look around for interesting CPUs maybe x79 old-school Xeon something like that so those are our goals this place there's very little English spoken here at least at a level that you could negotiate you could ask about computer parts in so my Chinese isn't great we're gonna do our best will that don't one boo how as you'll hear me say potentially a lot in there but I can't say things like we are building a computer will win suit on each idea now and we are looking for water cooling parts something very specific that I learned will see if I learned the wrong phrases for 40 minutes on the plane let's go inside look around see what kind of interesting stuff we can find in Hawaiian Bay scg before that this video is brought to you by gigabyte 2 x5 7 a master motherboard the x5 Sony Master is what we used for all of our rise in 3000 CPU reviews and for extreme overclocking streams with the 3900 X the master is built to handle more currents than you'll push through your eyes and CPUs it has actual finned heat sinks for the V RMS and it features a massively overhauled gigabyte BIOS pick up the x5 Sony master for your rise in 3000 cpu at the link in the description below this strip of watchon Bay is a small part of a massive shopping district although Shen gen is often associated with factories the city is now slowly transitioning to accommodate some higher-end commerce and more service economy jobs in fact most of the factories we toured told us that finding workers in Shenzhen has become challenging as many of the workers don't want to live the factory life that their parents did as these factories creep further and further out toward dong-gwon and wage oh and seek automations replace a dwindling supply of workers watch on bay has spread up with a mix of high-end legitimate retail stores mixed with grungy or wholesale fronts and street markets SE GE market has floor upon floors of wholesalers and retailers and watch on Bay in general has some of the most unique computer hardware we've seen if you've ever browsed Aliexpress just for fun like to find quirky hardware there's a good chance that the things you found shipped from here we're at least couldn't be found here unfortunately it's also difficult to film here security often wordlessly and sternly instructed us to stop filming multiple times both back when we visited in March and in May and he generally don't want to push that envelope too far as a foreigner in China for this trip we entered negotiations at first to establish interest and then asked for permission to film this got the local vendors on our side most the time but security would still stop us if spotted so we had to lay low and some of this footage is a bit shaky as a result watch on bay itself has pristine streets and it's dotted with skyscrapers that are illuminated by enough RGB LEDs to make coarse hair blush the streets are lined with smaller tea shops local foods and of course massive upscale malls a nice hotel here costs about $140 a night and that'll get you views like this one a room equivalent to what you'd find in a $400 a night Hilton in the US and the proximity to staff that speak fairly fluent English Mandarin and sometimes other languages for reference the conversion rate helps with this it's typically close to 1 USD for about 7 RMB or the Chinese UN and this is a relatively new district in a city that has 40 years of manufacturing history it acts as a hub for electronics several of our factory tours were shot within 40 minutes of watch on Bay and these factories established the municipal infrastructure that allowed the newer service and commerce industries to pop up a lot of this is wholesale driven find one-off pieces of hardware is kind of rare and gets laughs from some of the markets vendors but most are willing to listen if you make the first offer the first question everyone asks is how many do you want and they're expecting probably dozens if not hundreds or potentially thousands for some of these smaller asome these you can also get things like custom PCBs designed and printed within 12 hours at se GE market and have SM DS purchased for prototyping within minutes you could then take it to a solder shop if you wanted and get MOSFETs inductors capacitors and controllers all mounted to the board by professional if it's time to get a production although not as good of a deal as just directly going to a factory you could buy reels of service mount components at a cge market to install on here SMT line by the tens of thousands this place does its best for rapid prototyping and production ramped up but also has a community built around sharing sales between each specialized seller of course there's also a mix of fun interesting components to buy woman woman jean my took a Don Shockley paisa MA yeah yes yet we dock i'ma this computer case immediately caught our eye it's on for four out of ten at se ge market and the brand alone sells it this is the three-body case made by the prolific case brand that everyone knows cool man it comes with two two hundred millimeter fans to 120 millimeter fans a couple of pentagrams tempered glass and well it's acrylic but the sticker says it's glass and also RGB LEDs the bargaining process was a bit rough to say the least Eli's English isn't very common here and my Chinese isn't very good if I think through it beforehand we can call with half of the conversation but keeping up with the response requires someone very patient and slow speaking he uses very simple words most of the haggling and reality ends up looking like this if neither of you speaks the other's language that well this is where phones come out and translation apps do their work but it's not uncommon to see people from all over the world communicating this way at se ge market the phone apps work well in most instances complex sentences will get head scratching from vendors and the apps often miss translate sentences that you build upon but simple sentences are pretty easy in this instance after we both took turns fumbling through our phones she told us that she'd have to run to the warehouse to grab a sellable boxed unit okay sorry is it in this building sorry Jolie this site Julie Diana okay have fun have fun twenty minutes okay she also wanted to know how many we were buying and answering with one got a polite but tired looking laugh we were making this lady run downstairs and across the street a 30-minute track to get us one case and it's not even an expensive one upon approach we thought we'd be able to just buy the one there but these small stands act more like showrooms showing what goods are available in bulk at nearby warehouses than actual stores many of these shopkeepers also work with the same warehouses as each other but represent different products it's a smaller scale version of retailers and suppliers and any economy except localized mostly to one building these shopkeepers spent 20 minutes with us very patiently explaining how the process works all by taking turns typing into translating apps and so we didn't want to haggle too much on the price they were polite and patient and instead we asked to see a few of the 120 monitor fans to make it a bit more worth their time of course some things transcend language barriers and require no translation okay they mean by for the case she wanted 466 RMB or about 66 US dollars we throw in some fans and did ask for a small discount but not much ultimately settling on about 500 RMB for everything or roughly 70 USD that's not bad for a start the case is probably one of the most interesting things we'll see here and it'll get its own review in our standardized case testing bench the fans will be for a different computer but our $66.00 case starts off the build with something adequately weird this started us on a bit of a fan kick we wanted to find some high rpm Delta fans or equivalent while here and so we ventured to this booth it's a perfect example of how lower floors message market work we asked if we can buy the fans and we're in turn handed a catalogue of every fan you could ever want available for purchase and thousands of units at a time we also found these interesting because there were no headers on the fans so we'd have to find some of those but that's no real challenge at a market place filled with literally thousands of small electronic components for everything you could make this guy really didn't want to sell us just one fan partly because they were his display in it but also because he wanted to move volume we tried to ask him several times if we could just buy one or two but he always pointed us back to the catalog and waved us off knowing now that he'd have to run to a warehouse just to make them maybe six US dollars that these are worth it sort of makes sense it's just it's not worth his time finally we decided to take a different approach to negotiating and just offer a good price I'll just make an offer I guess no so I offer 10 bucks 15 15 might be kind of high let's try it well while Gainey ebike why okay okay you buy quite clima okay you wanna stay young T if I didn't say yeah music let's try to set afire from the factory will you so these to me anyway lavender church will be abandoned what the John one poo how okay okay if I cry clean okay we hand it over about 15 US dollars to make this easy he didn't take issue with that offer and we thought it might be on the high side but we also just wanted to buy the fans and move on to other booths for us this was a good deal a lot of people get hyper focused on haggling when they see these types of videos posting as armchair experts in the comments about how we could have gotten something for cheaper but keep in mind that we're inconveniencing someone with general ignorance of how things work Limited language abilities a camera in their face and then asking to buy one of a low-cost item and of course this is all while the guys trying to take a lunch break - so to us $15 was fair for all the trouble and he seemed happy with it everyone walks away with what they wanted these aren't for our main PC build from this trip but we do intend to put them to use we needed to find some more parts for the actual computer looking around we found some cool decommissioned Intel dual socket motherboards and tried to get a good deal on them but the pricing just didn't work out after accounting for the higher-end CPUs worthy of these boards the total cost of two CPUs on a motherboard dual socket would have been about $900 USD and not a harem B which is way beyond our budget at that price we really might as well just buy some modern hardware in the US and so we gave up on these options instead we returned to the shop where we bought a cheap x79 motherboard back in March the shopkeepers remembered us so getting a good deal wasn't too hard here we got an Intel i5 2670 Xeon CPU from about 2012 which is an 8 core 16 thread part at 3.3 gigahertz boost frequency and then we coupled that with an interesting TGX 79 V 309 motherboard searching for this product stream doesn't really serve as much online Taobao and Alibaba seem to indicate that this was an OEM motherboard at some point it's not a good one but that's why we liked it it's just sort of strange we noticed that some of these same model motherboards had differently colored SATA connectors some a mix of red and black so I'm just black some blue and a mix of white and black or transparent 24-pin headers this seemingly totally random selection of small parts on top of the same motherboard gave us confidence that we found the right product the form factor isn't quite micro ATX I'm not quite mini ITX it might be fair to call this mini DTX which is a slightly longer form factor than many ITX not quite as long as micro ATX and the same width as many icx it's also incredibly uncommon the biggest name that's doing a mini DTX board is probably the asus impact for the new rise in 3000 series CPUs but beyond that one it's unlikely you ever really hear about this for mainstream hardware we also bought two sticks of ECC eight gigabyte memory at 1600 megahertz CL 11 and this is ddr3 as a reminder this allows us to populate both DIMM slots on the motherboard but we're still obviously losing two of the channels on the 2670 CPU it's a four channel capable CPU but we have two DIMM slots on the board so yeah it's not a good build but that's sort of the point it should be fun and again a bit weird the total cost of the motherboard the former eight core high-end Xeon CPU once priced at 1550 dollars u.s. when it launched and the 16 gigabytes of RAM wasn't too bad the x79 board was 300 RMB the e5 2670 was about 400 RMB or $56 similar to most listings on Aliexpress and the memory was about 90 RMB for each stick we then asked a pretty straightforward question can I have a discount she sort of laughed but knocked off 10% resulting in a final price of 800 RMB or $113 u.s. looking over the pricing the same Samsung memory would have cost us $35 on Aliexpress for 16 gigabytes the cheapest 2670 Xeon on Aliexpress would have cost is $58 and the motherboard would cost roughly 51 to 60 per piece if we bought 100 of them we couldn't find the exact board in a single unit but even this bulk price is similar to what we paid were we to ordered these parts online it costs us 144 dollars or so so we were pretty odd mark for the pricing that said again we didn't really hang all that hard as we were already causing a bit of a scene we also weren't focused on price we're focused on getting some interesting parts time to find a sepia cooler for our build but we needed to look for guards before moving along no do you want to scout ahead near the escalator with the coast clear we found a cooling shop next we wanted to try and buy some of the famous cheap open-loop water cooling parts all of these shops have the same stuff we have in the US like your average cooler master closed-loop liquid coolers standard tower coolers a lot of cooler master stuff but we wanted something more unique it was a little hard to communicate that we wanted to open loop cooling but eventually we figured it out woman woman she on my Suellen sandwich Eve in Bucheon naming by Wawa she doesn't see oh yeah yeah mm-hmm gdb CPU Sunita imma Stephanie this you know boom hope this one family leader okay we then fumbled through Google Translate to ask him if anywhere in the building had open-loop cooling at all but he said now we even checked - his old video with strange parts where the pair struggled to find more than a single open-loop hit in the whole mall ultimately we decided on a tricked-out 120 millimeter air cooler with a dragon painted on top of it can't go wrong there because 15 year old me would have loved having this cooler for a fair system built we paid about fifteen dollars for this - which is well below the price of your average cheap 120 cooler on Newegg but whether it's any good will be a different story we didn't film the throwaway shop or not much of it but our next stop was to find some thermal compound for a new computer as stated earlier it's impossible to buy some stuff and a single unit SKU and thermal paste is definitely one of those things we ventured to a darker corner of an empty upstairs floor to find our Tim dealer originally we asked for a single tube but the shopkeeper laughed and shook her head and so we then asked well how much is it for this bag of syringes which definitely doesn't sound sketchy but she told us it was five dollars us after hearing that we asked if she had a better model available and she pulled out the gold tubes the hy 510 model of thermal grease costs about $4 us for a 30 gram tube on Amazon and we ended up buying an entire bag of the 1.9 3 watt per meter Kelvin compound for $5 we then bought some of the hy 610 gold model compound hy 610 is rated at 3.0 five watts per meter Kelvin so still not great but better if we can trust the numbers and we were able to buy 530 gram - it was plus a bunch of smaller tubes for about 10 bucks e^x these are priced at $2 23 cents on Aliexpress for 30 grams for reference so we walked away slightly better off with our extra bag of smaller syringes an SSD was next on our list we had seen these Ramstad drives everywhere and really wanted one but only because of the red fist on the marketing materials and the name that both screamed quality after a few vendors told us not to film and another refused to sell us this model we finally found someone willing to part with his beloved a trams - SSD at 240 gigabytes and accompanied with a genuine ramps to foil sticker so we knew it's not counterfeit we knew we were finally in for a good SSD the drive cost us under 20 us we tipped the guy because we did actually end up making him run to a warehouse and spend 30 minutes finding one of these drives that we so desperately wanted and we only wanted one of them to be clear this is probably total garbage as an SSD but it looked different we found one of these drives sold in the US for $56 which is quite some markup but it was the only site we could find selling it iris also might be broken we haven't checked yet the last stop was the GPU back in March just a few days before the and the rx 560 XT came out in China only we desperately asked to every vendor if we could buy one ahead of launch no one had it so we returned this trip to try again the GP of shop attendants were some of the nicest people we worked with during this trip one of them spoke decent enough English that we weren't too slowed down by translate applications and we were able to combine bits and pieces of Mandarin and English to communicate they even asked us what we do and when we showed them the YouTube channel they gave approving not the attendance even patiently taught us how to say some of the company names in Chinese which proved useful later in the trip these guys were pretty awesome we bought the sapphire rx 560 XT dual fan card for cheap here about 120 us but this was back in May so it was more expensive than it is now and we head out for a bit to ask some questions what your yeah [Music] the msi lightning 28 ET i was on the shelf behind them so we first established that we had absolutely no interest in buying it and we're just curious and then asked how much it costs in Shenzhen this card was selling for about $600 more than it was in the u.s. at the time at over $2,000 us so we passed on buying this one the only part that leaves out then is the power supply which will source locally just because it was too heavy to carry back we also got this it's a gift for our our primary video editor it's a Nintendo switch cooling fan you're welcome he really likes it you should see him he's like crying he's so happy about it so we got an antenna switch cooling accessory and in the same place this is unrelated to the computer but we picked up a game station which of course many of you know is donees greatest console that they've ever made so the game station is probably something Patrick will look at later we're not quite sure what to do with it I think it has 600 console or 600 classic games on it we'll see if they're just roms or something it weighs about the same as a Raspberry Pi but it's maybe 30 times larger so that's all the stuff we bought the computer hardware items we'll be looking at separately in review so the case is it's already been benchmarked Patrick went through that we had to slightly custom modify it to fit our video card but it has been benchmarked so we'll have a case review up we've got a review of this video card probably going up after the sum of the partner models for the 5700 series goes up and then for the rest of this the biggest thing I'll be doing a stream of building this computer so we've got all the parts just need to pull the power supply from somewhere and once we assemble it we'll see if it works see if any of these parts were sold to us broken or if they survived the trip home but most of it was tested when we bought it so check back for the stream not sure when that'll be yet but we'll announce it on Twitter or in a news video or something and thanks for watching let us know what you thought of this 10 below subscribe for more or go to store documents access dotnet to pick up a limited edition shirt like this foil shirt that I'm wearing or one of our toolkits thank you for watching we'll 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Channel: Gamers Nexus

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Keywords: gamersnexus, gamers nexus, computer hardware, shenzhen, shenzhen seg e-market, shenzhen computer market, computer marketplace, biggest computer mall in the world, biggest electronics market in the world, weird computer parts, huaqianbei seg e-market

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Length: 22min 51sec (1371 seconds)

Published: Wed Aug 14 2019