(intense music) (knocking) - [Raven] Hello? - [Nev] Hello? - [Raven] Look, I live
with my ex-girlfriend, and we couldn't do it there. This is my aunt's house, so
I want to keep it private. Can you come to the back, please? - [Nev] Oh, okay. She asked us to meet her in the back. - [Oceanna] Yeah. - [Nev] She wants to keep it private. - [Slick] Okay. - [Nev] I guess we go this way. (intense music) - It's a little too private. - [Nev] Oh, here we go. Hey. How you doing? - Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you. Raven, right? - Yeah. - [Oceanna] Hi Raven. - Hi Oceanna. - [Nev] Oceanna and Slick. - [Slick] What's up, nice to meet you. - [Raven] Hi, nice to meet you. - [Nev] So what's going on? - Um, I found Oceanna's Instagram. You know, I liked her, I liked what I saw but I just felt like I
couldn't approach her 'cause I didn't think
that she would talk to me. So I created a fake page, you know, Nelly to talk to Oceanna and then, you know, at some point I wanted to, you know, kinda like end what was going on but it was like hard, you know? I'm like, you know, how do I tell her that I'm not the person that
she thinks she loves. So I just never ended it. - I don't even, I don't even
know what to say because we got on video chat, like that's crazy. And like then on the phone,
y'all didn't sound alike. You know, anything that you've said to me, whether you was Nelly or Raven, I was there for you period. Like for what? You told me that (beep) for what? - My life was (beep) up at the time. When I first met you, I
was going through a lot. Me and my wife had just separated because she cheated on me in our house with one of my friends. Me and my wife, we live in the same house so we can co-parent but we split up. - [Slick] But you told her your baby died. - Well I got a baby, like for real. Like I got a nine month old baby. - So why, why would you lie
about some (beep) like that? - [Nev] Why tell her that your kid died? - Just to like string the lies along. - I felt bad bruh, I felt bad for you. You just threw lies out there. You don't understand how the (beep) I felt when I was sitting in
there and I was hurt. You shoulda just (beep) told me. All of those lies did not have to be done. So who's Kayla? - That is my best friend,
like my actual best friend. - I just don't believe that. - [Nev] You're telling me
Kayla is an actual person? - [Raven] Yeah, that's
my actual best friend, she lives here in Houston. - Who's Ciara? - I don't even know who that is. - Ciara said she's friends with Kayla. - We don't, I don't
know nobody named Ciara, Ciara, whatever like I
don't nobody with that name. - I'm so mad, I can't
even stop (beep) moving. - [Nev] You're telling me you
only had one fake profile? - Yeah, I only got one fake
profile and that was the Nelly. - [Nev] Really? - Yeah, really. - I don't know if I can believe that 'cause it's so hard to take you serious. I don't know if she said anything true. - You entitled to feel like that. - What about Kira? - I don't know who that is. - Kayla knew who Kira was. - Oh, you're ex-girlfriend Kira? Oh yeah, I know Kira
but just from Instagram. - You talk, you and,
like Nelly and Kira like, - [Raven] Talked yeah. But not nothing like that, like
not like dating or nothing. We didn't really like talk like, you know? - [Nev] But Kira's talking to Kayla. - Well I don't know nothing about that 'cause I wasn't in the mix. - But Kayla and Nelly have
the same phone number. - No they don't. When Kayla was talking to Kira, they was talking on my phone. - [Nev] You're telling
me Kayla, your friend, started her own relationship
with someone else? That doesn't make sense. - Yeah, with her ex-girlfriend. - Why would she do that? - I don't know, ask her. - I just don't get how it intertwines. You just shrug off that, like that? - I feel like y'all asking me
questions I already explained. Like, and when I feel like, like y'all putting me,
my back against the wall like trying to like I'm some (beep), I'ma just not gone talk, I'm not gone say nothing,
I'm not gone speak. - All right, so okay
we don't wanna do that. - And I'ma just be done
with the situation, I'ma walk off, I'ma go
one about my business. - It's just like you just
lied about so much (beep) and I'm over it, I'm over it. I'm over it period. - [Nev] I understand
everybody is very emotional. We're just gonna take a
few minutes back in the car and then we'll meet back up. All right? - Okay. - [Nev] Okay so, Raven
admitted she is Nelly. We asked her about Kayla, she said Kayla is her best friend. Sounds bogus. I mean, she's Kayla. - She's Kayla. - [Nev] But you know, she's emotional, she apparently had a rough year. Found out her wife was
cheating on her with a friend, they sort of split up but
they still live together and they're raising
their daughter together. - That's what Raven said? - [Nev] That's what she just told us. - Kayla told me the same thing. - Kayla's story is basically
exactly Raven's story. All right, so then she's definitely Kayla. You need to come talk
to her and call her out. No more lies. There's a car pulling in. - [Red] Oh my god. This some bull (beep). - [Kamie] Hello. - Hi. - Hi Ashley, how are you? - I'm good. - Nice to meet you. Nev. - Kamie. It is Ashley. - Yeah. - Right. - [Nev] How'd it go getting in? - Good. - [Nev] Had you been to LA before? - No. - [Kamie] You've never been to LA? - I said no. - I thought you were just
here doing hair for work? - Okay, I'ma talk to you. - Oh, oh (beep) me then. That's fine. - [Nev] I'm sorry, I was just
trying to make some small talk 'cause I'm assuming your nervous. Anyway, we figured out
that a lot of the profiles that Red has been talking to for the past six years are fake. We're assuming you're
behind most, or all of them. - Hm. - [Nev] No one else is involved? - No. - [Nev] Okay, so Shekinah, Tamar. - Me, me, me, me, me, me, me. - [Nev] But I just wanna make
sure I know who all of them, how many, are there some that
we don't even know about? - Well yeah. - [Red] And are you doing
this to anybody else? - Of course. - Oh my god. I just wanna know why, like why? What was the purpose? - It just started. - [Red] Why? - You hopped in my inbox first. - Who, Jalissa? 'Cause I don't even know you. - [Nev] But wait who, when you say, - And I didn't hop in nobody's inbox. - [Ashley] You did though. - [Red] As Jalissa, was it Jalissa 'cause, - No, you hopped in
Shekinah's inbox first. - Oh, see? You're not Shekinah! - [Ashley] You skippidy skip skip hopped. - But why? - You did the bunny rabbit and you hopped, you hopped your ass in there. - Really? - Really? - Don't flip this on
me 'cause you did this. - I'ma talk to you 'cause he the host. You the help. - Wow. - [Kamie] You are the
one who is impersonating other people on the internet. But I'm talking to you and therefore, you are here on our show with our cameras. - This bitch. - If you call me a bitch one more time we're gonna have a serious problem, so let's be respectful. - Jesus. - [Nev] Look, if you keep
speaking to her that way then you won't get the
chance to speak to any of us. - Okay. - [Kamie] Do you have kids? - [Ashley] No. - Are you married? - No. - [Nev] We just happened to
notice on your Facebook page that we found that it
says you are married. - I was married. - [Nev] We're just trying
to find out more about you. - We're trying to figure out the truth. - Okay Nev. - [Nev] Just tell us who
you are so we know like what is real and what isn't. - I'm just me. - [Nev] How old are you? - [Ashley] 24, I'm 24. - [Nev] 24, okay. And you live in Texas? - [Ashley] Yes, I do. - [Nev] So if you're 24 now, that means you started
these when you were like, or when did you first start? - Like 12 years old. - Whoa, so you had your first
fake profile when you were 12? - Yeah. - [Nev] Whoa, okay. How did you come across Jalissa? 'Cause she's a real person. - Instagram. - [Nev] Okay, she's not really famous? - [Ashley] No, we're just
friends from Instagram. - [Kamie] You know her personally? - On IG, yeah. - You have met her in person? - Oh my god, no we know,
we follow each other. - Yes. - We know some of the same people. - Uh huh. - That's it. - [Kamie] If you break
it down a little slower, I might be able to
understand you even better. - Okay. - You seem upset. - I'm a blunt person. This is my personality. This is how I am. - [Red] There's a difference
between being blunt and being respectful and you're
being very disrespectful. - [Ashley] I'm being respectful. - No you're not. - How not? - [Red] You're being very disrespectful. You came up here disrespectful. - [Ashley] How? - Look how you talking to her. - This bird wanna hop
in this conversation. - Why she gotta be a bird? - Well bock bock bitch, here I am. - Bock bitch. - 'Cause she's calling you on your (beep). - Okay, if you have
any more questions Nev, I'm not talking to these two right now. - [Nev] There's a side of your personality that is different than this
because you've talked to Jalissa in a different way. - I mean yeah, I can be sweet. I can be sweet. - [Nev] Did you know that
she was dating someone? - [Ashley] I mean, yeah I knew. - Didn't you ever think like, I should probably leave her alone? - [Ashley] I mean, yeah
I did like I'm married and then I got bored. - We got the impression from Red and maybe you have a different take on it, that there was a lot of
talk, romantic conversation about being together. - I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it. - Well, you may not have meant it. - [Ashley] Hell no. - I hope you didn't. - I'm not gay. - Well I'm gay as (beep),
like I'm gay, gay. - [Ashley] Enjoy that anyway. - [Kamie] Red, you look like
you got a lot on your mind. You wanna go talk in the car? - Sure, come on. - I'll leave you two to it. - She's hella rude. - She's gonna look like the asshole because she is a (beep) asshole. - [Red] I wanna knock
the (beep) out of her. Like she's hella disrespectful. - We don't have to burn
because of this bitch. - Do you feel better now than you did, - [Ashley] I mean, yeah I guess. I mean, of course you know
she gone be mad or whatever but I don't know what else to say. - [Kamie] Are you buying
what she's selling? Are you buying this whole
like, I was just bored? - No. - Now everybody has to
come out on their own time. I'm sure you have your
own journey with that, but it's a front. I know people like that. - She never been that way with me. - People like that, because
they're so insecure and unhappy, will have that boisterous, just
rude like defense mechanism because it's a front. But I don't even know if she's open enough to explain her true self to tell us. - [Nev] What do you wanna do now? - I mean like, whenever she cool down I'll be open to talk to her but I'm not gonna talk to her right now. - Let me re-group. - Okay, that's fine. - I'll let them know that
you're willing to sit down and talk a little bit more and then as soon as
everybody has calmed down, maybe we can meet somewhere nearby. - Okay. - You came in a little
hot, especially on Kamie. We got of to a bit more of a, - Yeah we did. - Rough start than we needed to. - We did. - [Nev] Take some time to really think is this how you want things
to end between you and Red. - Thank you so much. - Okay, I'll talk to you in a little bit. - Okay. ♪ See you're just tryna get under my, ♪ ♪ Under my skin I guess ♪ - [Red] Well did she leave? - [Nev] Yeah, probably best if
we all just take a breather. I see her, I see the way she's acting, I hear the things she's saying, and like I just wanna
give her an opportunity to try and like think a
little bit more deeply about like what she's
done and how she feels. Because if we don't try to help her, she'll just keep making people
unhappy around her forever. (knocking) - [Nev] Hi. - [Jade] Hi. - How you doing? - [Jade] I'm good, how are you? - Good, I'm Nev. - [Jade] Nice to meet you, I'm Jade. - [Nev] You're Jade, okay great. - [Austin] Hey Nev, Austin. - [Nev] Austin, all right what's up? Why don't you guys come down? - [Jade] You want us to
step out so we can talk? All right. - [Nev] Okay. Do you know each other at all? - I've never seen her before. - [Nev] Okay, well this is Taylor. This is Tallulah who's helping out. Jade and Austin. So what the heck's going on guys? - [Austin] Yeah. - Okay so, initially it all
kinda started off as a joke. - So were you texting me? - Sometimes. - Yeah. We all started uh, - Who's we all? - Myself, Jade, and Hailey. - Yeah, my best friend as well. - [Nev] Hailey? - [Jade] Yeah, she actually
played a part in it. Hailey went to McKinley. - Do you know someone named
Hailey from high school? - Like barely, I mean I know who she is. Like but I've never, I've talked
to her like once or twice. Hailey is the one who
told you guys everything? - Yeah. - [Taylor] Why didn't you
guys just tell me like, it was a joke in the beginning? Because now it's on TV
and I look really stupid. - [Jade] Well I don't want you, see and that's what I didn't want. Like I didn't want you to, - Can we go? - [Nev] No. I'm not buying it. What about Jerrika? - Who's Jerrika? - [Nev] Come back over here Taylor. What's going on here? Oh, someone's here. Here she comes. - Hello. - [Nev] Hi. Jerrika? - No, that's Hailey. - [Nev] Oh, hi. - Hi Nev. - [Nev] Hi. - [Hailey] Hey Taylor. I'm sorry bro. It wasn't supposed to get this far. - So why didn't you guys stop it when I text you and said
I'm gonna write Catfish? Why didn't you just tell me then? - Honestly for it, once it
got this deep I felt like this would've been the best way to do it and I felt like you
deserved to know the truth. - [Taylor] There's like
people who kill themselves for stuff like this and
I'm just really upset. - [Hailey] I'm sorry bro. Honestly like, I just really can't say anything more than that. And I feel horrible and I feel bad. - [Nev] Blah, blah, blah, all right let's just be honest. Can someone just (beep) be honest? This is stupid. I just want someone to
(beep) tell me the truth. - [Tallulah] This is all bull (beep). - There is no bull (beep) this is what you see is what you get. There's nothing more to it,
like it just got out of hand. - We know for sure that's
not what's going on here. - What else, what do
you think is going on? - [Nev] I think you guys and
Taylor are all full of (beep). We know that's not the whole story. We know Taylor's best friend has the same phone number as the catfish. It doesn't add up, none of it. You guys aren't fooling
anybody, it's all BS. Do you have any additional things to say? - Not at all. - [Producer] Why don't we take a break and talk a little bit more, is that cool? - Yeah, why don't we just
take a quick breather. - Okay. - All right. - [Producer] So um, we
just got a hold of Jerrika. She said the reason she
doesn't wanna be on the show is because she doesn't wanna be deceptive in helping Taylor with her plan. Maybe Jerrika got cold feet and then these guys got pulled in. But yeah. As far as Jerrika is concerned, all of that stuff is bull (beep). - Right. All right, why don't we go inside and try and figure this out. All right. - So here's how I'm feeling. I feel like maybe you guys were in on it with Jerrika a little bit. Like for me, you know like
for me to have her number and stuff and then maybe you
guys are like protecting her 'cause she's one of my
really close friends. - Is somebody gonna say something? - I don't know Jerrika. - I don't know Jerrika. - I don't know Jerrika. I just, we're in too deep at this point and things are getting
out of, just out of hand. And I feel like a lot
of it is coming on us, and I feel like everybody
needs to take accountability for their actions and their
part in the situation. - [Nev] I hear what you're saying though. You guys are taking the
fall for someone else. - I mean, there's only so
much that we can explain 'cause I've never called Jerrika, I've never talked to Jerrika, I've never texted Jerrika. She hasn't, she hasn't. Only one person in this room can explain. - How did you get involved? - Taylor. - Like when you guys added me on Facebook and were just like playing around? - [Hailey] I'm trying to
give you the opportunity to speak your truth. - And I'm speaking my truth. - Right, so I'll just say it. I'm just gonna say it. So Taylor set this up to come on TV and then at some point asked
you guys to come on the show? - Yeah. We kinda got in on it at the end. - [Tallulah] You basically, you
three were gonna be the ones that were the catfish. - Her. - She was. - Wait hold on, Taylor
you just said that like all of a sudden you're like
agreeing with the story. Are you just gonna casually
admit that like they're right and that you've been (beep) full of (beep) this whole time? Are you ready to do that? - So Jerrika decided to
make it up and I wrote it. - Okay. - [Taylor] And then Jerrika said she didn't wanna look stupid. - Look at us. - [Taylor] So I was like, let me see if someone
from Atlanta can do it. So I wrote her but, - [Nev] But why, why do all of that? To be on the show? To boost your Instagram? - What's the origin point
of why were are all sitting in these couches right now? Like I wanna be on TV. Like what the (beep). We talked to you, you sat with us, My thing is like why? We spent time and energy. When we do this like 110% into everything and like that's (beep) up. - If they would have said no then I wouldn't even
of wrote into the show. It's not like I was gonna
keep finding people. - And that's my fault for, - [Nev] Yeah right. No, that's ridiculous. You don't think anything's your fault, the world just like at
your feet to do whatever. Yeah, but this just like,
you look so gross right now. I don't even think Jerrika is involved. I'm sorry, I just think the fact that you went through with this and that you so casually
are just saying like okay, yeah that's it and haven't once like seemed to express any sense of remorse. You're like, life is gonna
be perfect for me anyways so like oops, sorry. That's how I feel about you right now. - Okay. - So I'm finished. You guys, that's it. I got the answers I need,
I think the story's over. I'm sorry you guys got roped into this, that was unfortunate. It was a bad decision but okay. Good luck, sorry we had
to ruin your big TV debut and please don't ever waste my time again. Oh, I guess it's this
little apartment complex. - This one here? - We're here. We're here. Does she live here? - This is weird. - I know right? This is pretty shady. - I'm nervous again, guys. - Let's see, we're here. Are you in one of the rooms? - I don't like this. - Me either. - I guess I'll just,
you guys hang out here. Let me snoop around. I'll see what I can figure out. (intense music) She could be in a room,
one of these rooms. Maybe she works here, I don't know. Oh. - Oh great. - 106, all right. Oh, it's right there. All right, hold on let me see. - Come on, let's go. (knocking) - [Jesus] Who's that? - Hi. - [Nicole] Hi. - Alexis? - [Nicole] Yeah. - Nicole? - [Nicole] Yeah. - [Nev] What should we call you? - [Nicole] Nicole. - Nicole. - [Nicole] Yeah. - All right, well glad you're here. Obviously, Jesus is here
and he wants to meet you. We have some questions for you. So if you're ready, why
don't you come outside? - [Nicole] I'm ready. - [Kamie] Oh my god. - [Jesus] Who's that? - [Kamie] Oh wow. - Why don't we, why
don't we come over here? - That's Alexis? - So Nicole? This is Jesus. And you are the person
he's been talking to? Is that right? Okay. So what's been going on here? Because we got a whole story from Amanda. Clearly you're not the
girl in the pictures. - No, Amanda made the profile. - Wait, Amanda made the profile? - Amanda made the profile years ago, she was doing this and now
she used to be my best friend, she's not anymore. - [Nev] Hold on, so you're saying that when Jesus started talking to Alexis, he was actually talking to Amanda. - He was talking to her
and then I took over. - [Nev] How long have
you been the profile? - [Nicole] I been talking to
him like a little over a year. - [Nev] So pretty much the whole time? - Yeah. - [Nev] And it was you
in the video chat right? - [Nicole] It was me. - [Nev] Okay, so you are the catfish. Who's the girl in the Alexis profile? - [Nicole] That's my cousin. All of her pictures. - [Nev] Oh, you used
pictures of your cousin. - Yes, that's quote, unquote Alexis. - And she knew you were
using her pictures? - No, Amanda didn't tell her nothing. Amanda befriended her
like a friend, you know? Hey, let's do this together. I said, okay, you know I agreed to it. - [Nev] And what about this Nicole person? - [Nicole] That was my daughter, Nikki. - [Nev] You used pictures
of your daughter? - Yeah. - [Kamie] Does your daughter know that you're using her pictures? - No. - [Nev] What about your
other daughter, Alyssa, that you told Jesus about? - [Jesus] Yeah, who's Alyssa? - Alyssa, that's Amanda's daughter. - You said it was your daughter. - Yeah, but don't yell at me. That's Amanda's daughter. - [Nev] Oh right, Amanda said
you guys got into a big fight 'cause you sent pictures of
her kids to some guy in prison. - Uh, first of all she's the
one that gave me the pictures to send to him. Second of all, - [Nev] So you did send
pictures of her daughter to someone in prison? - [Nicole] Nobody in prison. She was in this the whole time. I don't know what she's talking about. - The bottom line is Alexis is not real. You're talking for a year
plus to this young man and the idea was to make a
fake profile to talk to guys to see if you could get
them to give you money? - Yeah. Amanda's being a total
bitch and a hater right now. - [Nev] Enough about Amanda. You're the one here who's telling me that you have been scamming lots of guys, pretending to be Alexis and like, and you're the catfish. - I'm not innocent, I'm far from innocent but don't make me look
like a (beep) bad person on national, (beep) national TV. 'Cause I can just get up
and walk away real quick and I won't care. - So you don't care about him at all? - I care for him as a friend. - You guys were saying "I love you." - [Nicole] As a friend. You can't tell a friend you love them? - [Nev] Well right, but you
knew that he was more in love than just like friends. - But it was just like
I wanted a friendship. - [Kamie] You have to
care about him if you, a year is a long time to talk to anybody. - Really, I have to? When nobody gives a (beep) about you, you don't gotta care about nobody. You don't know my life story. You don't know what I been through. I been through a lot of (beep). I been in the foster
care, I've been adopted, I've been in and out of jail
since I was 11 years old. Okay, I've been through a lot of (beep). Okay Jesus? I been through a lot. - I have too. - [Nicole] I had my ass dragged
from one end to the other. Okay, if you don't wanna talk to me at the end of the (beep)
day, oh well so be it. I'm still gonna be me,
I'm still gonna move on, I'm gonna do me and my kids and that's the bottom (beep) line to it. And if you believe Amanda then you're (beep) dumber than I thought. - [Kamie] Oh my god. - But you lied. - [Kamie] I honestly
don't believe anything that you're saying. - I mean, what you did is not okay. Take some (beep)
responsibility for yourself. You realize what you're
doing is really (beep) up. - I'm done, I'm done with
this situation, I'm done. I'm gonna walk away, 'cause I'm about to cuss
your ass out real quick. So I'm done with this, I
don't wanna talk about it. Thank you. Okay, I'm really done. - Just let her be, just let her be guys. - She's obviously in a lot of pain, but so are a lot of people
and it's not an excuse. - I just wanna go home already. - [Justin] Here goes nothing. - Oh. - [Justin] Nev, Nev! - [Nev] Uh oh. - Oh, get me the (beep) out of here. No! Nah, that nah, absolutely dead. Like I gotta be Boo Boo the Fool, like no. - You really fell for this? - [Nev] Who is this? - [Cherie] No, an old friend of mine who doesn't know his place. - You forgot me? - [Cherie] We ready to go? - [Nev] What's going on? Who is this guy? - Somebody I was literally
just old friends with. - [Nev] What happened? - [Cherie] Yeah. - She asked to borrow some money from me and I haven't heard from her since. - That is so childish. - [Nev] All right, so hold on a second. What's your name? - My name's Buddy. - [Nev] And you guys go back as friends? - Only a little bit,
about three or four years but we're honestly not that close. - [Buddy] About five years, since 2012. - [Nev] Okay, so you guys were friends. - [Buddy] Uh huh, we used to hang out. - And close enough that
you lent her some money here and there. And about how much do
you think you lent her? - A couple hundred dollars. - [Cherie] First of all, I
didn't ask you for anything. This man blew up my phone
one day and I didn't answer so he went into my
account and paid my bill and then told me I need to pay him back because he thought that my phone was off. Now I'm borrowing money from you? - But you didn't specifically
say, "Can I borrow money?" He just, - I didn't ask him to pay my bill. - It said it was off. - So wait, so what did you want? - I wanted my money back. That's all this was for. That's what started Avion. There were several days where she said, "I'll bring you your money this day. Oh, my check is funny. I'll bring you money this day. My commission check is short. I'll bring you your money this day." And it's been months and I
haven't heard a word from you. - Because I'm not
friends with you anymore. Do you really think that the money has something to do with it? You're a (beep) friend. - When you said on your word. - I don't care. I don't care, my word is
that I don't (beep) with you. - [Buddy] And then I don't hear from you and you spent the money,
you spent the Lyft money to go see this fake person. But you couldn't put the
money in your friend's hand. - You know what I owe you? A goodbye and a have a
nice mother (beep) day. - [Justin] Wait hold on. Were y'all just friends? Strictly friends. - [Cherie] Yes, nothing more than that. I wouldn't let this man
touch me with a 10 foot pole. - Yeah, you don't like her? - No, that's my friend,
that's my homegirl. - You never had interest in her? - No. - Okay, well that's confusing. You're initial interaction
with her as Avion was very sexual. - It was because in the beginning I was just saying the
worst things I could say and then she started sending these nudes. Like I didn't think she would
carry on as far as she did. - [Nev] But she says you
were asking for that. - [Buddy] I wasn't. You offered them up, and so I
said sure, "I'll take them." And I'm telling you these
was the nastiest things I have ever got in my life. - [Cherie] All right, continue lying. - [Buddy] That's fine. - I'm waiting. - I saw your insides. - At the end of the day, we're not friends so all of this converse right
here really doesn't matter so I'm gonna go ahead and let you go. - [Buddy] I know, that's
why Avion is here. And that's why Monica
came up with Avion for me. - Who came up with it for you? - Monica, she's a friend of mine. I have had a partner from the beginning. - [Nev] Who is she? - First of all, he has
no wife named Monica. He knows nobody named Monica, he just told you guys
I've known him for years. - I mean, you can knock
on the door and see and talk to her. - All right, so hold on a second. We know her name is not
Monica, who is helping you? - [Cherie] I feel like it's Desiree. - [Justin] Wait a minute, who's Desiree? - [Cherie] Some female friend that he has. Do I look, y'all think that I know this, like I know this whole
situation so I'm saying like, - We don't know (beep). So can I, - You can talk if she'll answer. - [Nev] Let me see if she'll come out. (knocking) - Hello, hi. That's the house. All right, this is it. There's no turning back. All right, so I think we should do it. - Let's do it. - [Max] Let's go. - This is crazy man. - You guys wait here in the
shade, I'll knock on the door. (knocking) - How you feeling? - I'm feeling like, this
is like so weird bro. This is like killing me
right now, like for real. - Hello. - [Jose] Hello. - [Nev] Hi. - [Jose] Hey. - What's he doing? - [Nev] I'm sure you
must be pretty nervous. - [Jose] I just didn't know that he was standing right there. (sobbing) - [Nev] It's all right, it's okay. I'm assuming your Rosa. - [Jose] Yup. - This is like so weird bro. - [Nev] Just be yourself, be honest, and say whatever it is that
you feel comfortable saying. Okay? - [Jose] I'm ready. - [Nev] Okay. (intense music) - Oh my god bro. - Say something. I'll start the conversation. (intense music) This is Jose. As I understand Jose has been Rosa. - Yep. - This is just crazy man. What are you doing man? - I mean, I didn't mean for
this to happen like this. - Aren't you ashamed of yourself bro? - I am ashamed of myself. - [Danny] Yeah. - I am and I'm not gonna lie. - What is this man? Why would you do something like that? - I never meant you know, I never meant to hurt nobody else. I was trying to hurt the
person in the picture. - The girl in the picture? Why, do you know her? - Yep. Natalie. - [Nev] So you know Natalie? - [Jose] I went to school with her. - [Nev] In Florida? - I was trying to get her to
feel the pain that I felt. I used to be bullied at school, you know, by her and obviously a
group of other people. - [Max] So you created the
account to take revenge on her? - Basically yeah. - [Max] You made that
account in high school? - [Jose] I was in high
school, I was in ninth grade. - [Max] And how old are you now? - [Jose] I'm 26 now. - [Nev] So that was a long time ago. - That was a long time ago. - Whatever you have against this girl bro, what does that have to do with me? You don't play with people like that, you don't, you don't do that to people. I'm over here making plans,
I'm like all into this girl. What were you actually planning
on getting out of this? Eventually we're gonna find out the truth. You know? This is just crazy man,
it's embarrassing actually. You know? - It is embarrassing. You know and like I'm sorry, like I am. - You need some help,
you need to go to church, you need to get involved,
you need to speak to someone. You can't just lock yourself in there and make believe you're a woman. If you like men, holler
at a dude that likes men. It's as simple as that man. What you did was wrong. - And I admit it. - [Danny] And I have
nothing to say to you man. This is an embarrassment for real. I'm done here. (intense music) This dude is sick bruh. - [Jose] For him, it
might not seem that I care but I really do. Like I really do and I
feel bad about myself every single day that I wake up. (subtle music) - This is (beep) crazy bro. (subtle music) This is so embarrassing
it's not even funny. - [Jose] I didn't mean
to hurt him, you know? But I was going through so much at home and the only reason that I
did continue talking to Danny, like I wanted to stop at first, you know? But he was the type of
person that he sat there, you know, and he listened. He listened and actually gave me advice and never tried to judge me. Obviously he was a good person, you know, very religious you know? And those words of inspiration
that he used to tell me, you know you know, really helped too. Everything that I said that, you know that Rosa was going through I really went through it, you know? As me, as Jose, you know? I told Danny, you know, that
Rosa was sexually abused. I mean, it happened to me. I was in pain, I, to this
day I'm still in pain. I was just trying to find an escape, I tried to find an escape through drugs. I used to do drugs heavy, you know? The only way that I stopped doing drugs, I got locked up. And that was the only
thing that was helping me. I felt like being somebody else, being somebody that you're not, being somebody that you can
actually talk to somebody and they can't judge you on your past because they don't know
nothing about your past. - [Nev] All right, well look this is a distinctive moment for you, 'cause right now when you
look back at your life a lot of it's the stuff that wasn't great. It's getting bullied in high school, it's getting addicted to
drugs, it's going to jail, it's not the best past. And while it's not gonna go away, starting now you can do
it a little differently. Tomorrow if you're up for
it, we can hopefully help you start that process of
healing and turn that page and leave volume one of the
life of Jose somewhere else and start you know, volume two. - Okay, thank you. - [Max] It was nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you guys. Like thank you guys for real. - [Nev] All right. We'll check in with you later. Oh man. Well that was probably more
than you bargained for. - [Danny] Uh yeah. I just kinda like wanna
disappear from the world for a couple of days. - Yeah, I mean I know it's not fair because this is just as much
your experience as it is his, but I think it's pretty obvious that this guy has had it pretty rough. - [Max] You have every right to be mad and to not wanna do
anything more for this guy. But if you really wanted to be a hero and go beyond, the one
thing you could give him is to let him know this is not something you're gonna hold against
him for the rest of your life and that might lighten
his burden a little more. - This is crazy. - Just send a (beep) text. - This is like too immature. (intense music) - Uh oh. - [Kamie] Is that him? I can't believe it. - Oh my gosh. - It's him! Wow. I'm shocked. - Oh my gosh. - [Nev] What happened? We hadn't heard from
you for a couple hours. - [Jaquan] Yeah. - [Aaliyah] Oh my gosh. - I'm a little nervous for real. Yeah, something new,
new experience for me. - [Nev] Okay. - [Aaliyah] This is crazy. - [Nev] Jaquan, that's your name. - Yes. - [Kamie] Aaliyah you wanna join us? - Yeah. - [Nev] We're confused I mean
'cause you did get her texts. - [Aaliyah] What's been going on? What took you so long today? - I kinda didn't wanna
do the show to be honest. I didn't wanna meet like this honestly. That's kinda like embarrassing for me. - [Nev] Okay fine, but it
would've never come to this if you had just even
like FaceTimed with her. - Yeah. - [Nev] Right? - Yeah. See like, it took me a big change to even get on the phone
with her in the first place 'cause I don't even talk on the phone. - But you haven't sent her any pictures. - Right. - [Jaquan] I was skeptical. You know how online dating goes. At first I didn't take it serious. And then she told me
that she was a virgin. To me, I'm like a good guy, like I wouldn't wanna
take no girl virginity and not be with the girl. - [Nev] So you felt like she got serious and then you guys obviously live on other sides of the country. You weren't sure how,
where it was gonna go. But from what she told us, it seemed like you guys
were in a relationship. You said you loved her,
she said she loved you. She was willing to get on a flight. I don't get it. - [Jaquan] I wanted to meet her, but that was a big step for me. I was kinda nervous,
I'm insecure in person. She wanted to see me so bad
that I would just say yeah but when it came down to it, I would make up like
an excuse or something. Like I gotta work or something, or I ain't got the money. - I hear what you're saying, there's just been so
much mystery around you. - Why'd you delete your Instagram? - Well, my brother did that. - So is Park Heights, - Oh that's my yeah, that's my brother. - That's your brother? - Hm. - [Nev] And he blocked us because you didn't wanna do the show? - Yeah. He was kinda putting stuff in my head to because he was more skeptical at first. - Skeptical of her? - Yeah, pretty much. - We found a Facebook
page that you use I guess and she didn't know you
had a Facebook page. And on the Facebook page
you were very flirtatious and you were definitely
talking to girls on Facebook. - I was, I was just doing
it for fun basically. - You were like sexual
and then what we seen was like recent, you know? - [Kamie] Jaquan in real life is supposed to be in a
relationship with Aaliyah. If you're out and about and
somebody were to ask you, "Do you have a girlfriend?" do you say yes? - Um, would I say yes if
somebody were to ask me if I had a girlfriend. Um. - If you gotta think about it, it's fine. - Yes. Like I really do love the
girl, don't get me wrong but I really don't show my feelings until I know like it's genuine. And I was scared to get my heart
broke, if that makes sense. And I can't, like when
I wanted to meet her, I can't do that on my own. Like that was a big step for me. I was kinda nervous and
like, I'm insecure in person. Like I know I like, I can't do that. - He's like shy, it's cute. - [Kamie] But okay, Aaliyah talk to me. Come on girlfriend. - [Aaliyah] It's hard, like when you see somebody
for the first time you know? It's like hard not to like, give in. - So you're into him? - [Aaliyah] Yeah, I am. - [Kamie] Just from knowing
you for the past few days. - Yeah. - You do a lot to make
other people feel loved and you wanna give, give, give, give but like how much love are you getting? You're giving all of it but
what are you getting back? I personally don't think
that he would have ever actually met up with you
if it wasn't for this. - [Aaliyah] But I don't know. I could see like the more he was talking it was like this was hard for him. I don't know, like I love him. So it's like more than that. I don't know, it's crazy. - From the conversations
you guys have had, you've talked about wanting
to move to California and to you know, be with her. - Yeah, I talked about moving to LA. - Right, but you didn't
imagine moving to LA to like be in a relationship with her. - No, but it's like 50/50. - How serious are you? - I'm serious right. I mean, I love the girl, I got feelings for her a lot. I could see myself
moving out here with her. I just wanted to make sure basically. - To make this work. - Exactly. - [Nev] All right, let me
just check in them and see. I'll bring her over. I've been talking to him
and it sounds to me like he has things he wants to say to you. So why don't we just let them talk and we'll just kinda leave
you guys for a minute. - [Kamie] I wanna hear. - [Aaliyah] Nervous? - [Jaquan] Heck yeah, I'm nervous. Like what you wanna do for real? Like do you wanna be with me? I mean, I wanna be with you honestly. - I do, I just don't wanna look dumb. I don't know, it's just like
trust is kinda (beep) up. So what are you willing to
do for this relationship? - I'm trying to be with you. - Like what are you willing to do? - Whatever you ask me to
do, that's what I'm saying, that's why I asked you like
what you want me to do? - [Aaliyah] Show your
actions so I don't get hurt. I could show my actions. - I like it. - So you don't get hurt. - Would you want to move with me to LA? - Um, I feel like I would
be okay with moving. - Yeah, we could live together. - [Kamie] Nev, they're
talking about living together. - Yeah, good. - No, it's not good. - So do you love me? - I want a hug. Yes, I love you. Come here, give me a hug. - I can trust you? - You know you can trust me. - I don't want it to look
like I was eavesdropping. - You were. - You're so cute. - You think I am? - [Nev] All right you two. - [Kamie] No you're cute, no you're cute. - [Nev] Let's sit over here for a second so we can all sit together. You understand like, she is serious and she doesn't (beep) around and when she's with someone
she's really with them and it means a lot. And from what you're saying you
feel very much the same way. So like, there's definitely grounds here for some sort of future thing. - Right. - But you're gonna have
to prove it, you know? - I think that you guys,
because you are so young, you can both come here and make moves and do exactly what it
is that you wanna do and be in a relationship with each other but still have your own path. - Yeah. - Don't move in together
for Christ sake, please. I have to say that before I leave. - So that's it, all right. And then I'm, you know. Wow. (laughter) Why don't we let you guys have some time. Nice to meet you. Good luck. - [Kamie] Good luck. - [Jaquan] It was a blessing to meet you. - I have to make sure she's okay. I gotta keep my eyes on him at all times. - I've got butterflies
in my stomach, real talk. - Are you serious? - Yeah. - Still? Do you ever have
butterflies with a female? ♪ This is what they call real love ♪ - [Antonio] Hey Alfred. - [Alfred] What the (beep) is this? - It's Antonio. I heard Catfish was in town. - [Alfred] So what that gotta do with you? - Why are they here? - Get in your car, go home. Get in your car and go home. - Can I talk to you over there? - Why? - For five minutes. - For what? - So I can talk to you. I don't need everybody
else in my business. I don't need that. - [Kamie] Hold on, hold on. - [Alfred] But why are they here? - [Nev] Why don't you go back inside and I'll explain to Antonio
what we're doing here? - You're Antonio? - Yeah. - I'm Kamie. - [Alfred] This is what I
was telling y'all about. You see what I'm saying? - He's probably just jealous and upset. - He always (beep) jealous,
that's what I'm talking about. - [Kamie] It is Alfred's business, but we're just, we're here to help. - This is a perfect
opportunity to just say, - I told y'all, I told y'all. - Yeah, but you don't need it anymore. - I told y'all. - It's not your responsibility. So why don't you go out there and let him know how you feel? What do you have to say? - Why are you bringing Catfish out here? Am I not good enough for you? Like why you trying to meet somebody that you don't even know? - [Alfred] Look at this bull
(beep) you pulling right now! You hear something from
Sanford and you coming at me. - [Antonio] We been here for five years, five years is a long ass
time for you to throw away for somebody you don't even know. - You, it's been about you. - [Antonio] But you don't
even know this person. - It doesn't matter. - [Antonio] It'd be different
if you knew this person, but you don't even know this person. - That's my point! - So you gone leave me over somebody that you don't even know? - [Alfred] You damn right I would. - That's stupid as hell. - And what you gonna do about it? - You look dumb as hell. - And that's fine. - [Antonio] You look dumb as hell. - [Alfred] Okay. - [Antonio] You look dumb as hell. - [Alfred] Okay. - And the reason why you
can't find the person is because I'm Adonis bitch. Yes, I am Adonis. - Bitch! (screaming) (intense music) - [Kamie] Stop guys, no, no, no, no, no. - [Alfred] I wanna kill him. I'll kill him man. Nev, please let me get him. Nev, let me kill him. Nev, let me get him. - [Kamie] It's not worth it. - He better be lying y'all. - [Kamie] It's not worth it. - He better be lying. He better be lying. - [Nev] Hold on, hold on. Hold on one second. - [Alfred] He better be lying bruh. (sobbing) I'm tired of him. Nev, Nev, I'm tired. - Let's take a second. All right. - Oh, he better be lying. He better be lying. - We're not gonna get anywhere right now, everyone's upset. - [Kamie] Are you okay? - Yeah I'm okay, that (beep) was crazy. He's mad at me because
he's been cheating on me. This is just too much, I
can't talk, I'm about to go. I can't do this. - [Kamie] Please get home safely. - [Antonio] I am. - [Alfred] I just wanna know is he lying. - Do you want me to go ask him that? - Please. - Just stay here for a minute. - Find out if he's lying, please. - All right, just wait for
me one second right here. Okay? (intense music) - [Kamie] He said he needs to leave. - [Nev] Did you talk to him at all? - [Kamie] Yeah I did,
but he doesn't wanna. - [Nev] Hey, just really fast is it true? You said at the very end right before you guys started fighting that you are Adonis. - [Antonio] I am Adonis. - That's true. - [Antonio] That's true. - So you made the profile? - [Antonio] Yes. - And it's been you talking
to him the whole time. Why did you do that? - [Antonio] Like I needed facts. - In terms of him like cheating? - [Antonio] Cheating on me, talking to other people behind
my back, I needed facts. - [Nev] I'd like to talk about this and try to help you guys. I don't know if right now
is the time to do that. Are you willing to meet
up with us tomorrow? - [Antonio] Tomorrow yeah, I just need time to
just process everything. - Fine, so you should go and we'll talk hopefully
tomorrow and meet up again. - [Antonio] Okay. - All right. - [Antonio] All right. - Nev, was he lying? - I don't think so. I just asked him, he said
that is, he made the profile. He said he wanted to see
if you were you know, if you would cheat on
him or talk to someone. Obviously that doesn't explain why he would go on this
long and be so supportive and helpful and encouraging. - [Kamie] Right. ♪ And my heart is not
the same without you ♪ - [Nev] If he wanted to
just see if you would send a dick pic or flirt with someone, he could have done that in a week. - Exactly. But why did you drag this the (beep) out? ♪ With open arms ♪ ♪ You can fall back into ♪ - [Nev] He said that he was
willing to meet up tomorrow once he's sort of settled. You guys obviously have a lot
that you need to work out. - [Kamie] When you've been
with someone for that long, I think that you owe it to each other to tell each other the truth. ♪ We can never unravel ♪ - [Alfred] I just really wanna
hear why he did this to me, I wanna know why. - In the meantime, I'm sure
you have some thinking to do. Not the answer we were looking for but, - [Kamie] We're gonna
figure it out tomorrow. - [Nev] Here's the plan. Gemini, you're gonna hang
here with me and Kamie. You guys will be in here. Obviously, you know, we're close so try not to make any noise. - Okay. - You don't wanna give away your position. After Gemini and Ashley get
a chance to talk for a minute I'll come in with her. We'll see how that goes. All right? So hang tight, we'll be right outside. Oh, she texted me. She's here. All right. - [Kamie] How you feeling? - [Jim] Hostile, my stomach
is like, I don't know. (intense music) - [Nev] Hello again. - Hey. - Hey Miranda. - [Nev] Well, Gemini here she is. Miranda aka, - [Kamie] Danielle. - [Nev] Danielle, Ashley. Thanks for coming. - [Ashley] Yeah. - [Nev] We're really just here
to give you an opportunity to get some closure to this whole thing. - [Gemini] Like why did you
do it in the first place? Like what was you looking for? - Nothing from you. - Like still? - [Nev] Well did you have feelings? - [Ashley] No, he's a great guy but he's just got, you know, issues. - What you think you got? - [Ashley] No, I'm just saying
like you're a great guy, you're a great friend. It happened, it was a joke. - [Gemini] How the hell it was a joke? Seven years? All right, ain't nobody
found it funny but you. - She can't even answer this stuff. - I only came here today 'cause I wanted to make amends. I've done that so, can I go now? - Nope, I think he had a question. - Okay, and like I'm not answering him 'cause right now it's gonna
get heated between us. - Get out, like I don't even care no more. Like you selfish, you don't
care about nobody but yourself. - [Nev] He's upset obviously
and I think it's justified. - [Ashley] He always upset. That's a wrap. - [Nev] I'm gonna quickly
just talk to Gemini, I'm gonna take him inside for a sec. - Please do. - And cool him off and
then we'll come back out. - [Ashley] I'm not doing it this time. If we gone do this then I
will go back to the crib. - I don't know what you're expecting. - We got as much from that
conversation as we're gonna get. You guys can just be here. You all right bud? - Yeah, I'm good. I just wanna get this over with. I don't even care no more. - [Nev] All right, I'm gonna
go get her, I'll bring her in. I'll be right back. He's in there, he's calmed down. Why don't we go in there
and we can try this again. - [Ashley] Oh Lord. (intense music) Y'all damn. Why the (beep) did you bring them here? - [Nev] Come on in. - No, no, no, no, no. - [Kamie] They love
you and care about you. - [Nev] As you can see, we brought some people
here from your life. - Hm, it's an intervention. - Yes. - Kind of. - You set me up. - That's how interventions work. - [Nev] Let's have a seat. So look, call it whatever you want. I care about you as a
person who exists right now. Obviously you need to
stop the cat fishing, but maybe before you can do that you need to realize that there are people, specifically these two who
you've known a long time, who want you to be happy and be honest and live a life that's
fulfilling and rewarding. We're here, we wanna know how you feel and we wanna be helpful if we can. - [Meka] I love you, but
I'm not fixing to sit here and applaud your bull (beep) 'cause I know you're better than this. The whole point of being on this show is for these people to get their answers, not for you to come in
here and make this a joke and act like this isn't hurting them and like, you're just completely deep down okay with what you're
doing to these people. What about your real life? Not this person you're pretending to be. All this effort you putting
into all these lies, you could put it into finding
yourself a real husband. Not one that you gotta lie about. Yeah, the smile's gone now isn't it? And that's coming from
me, your big sister, who actually loves you and
cares about the real you, not this person you're pretending to be because it's not okay. - [Gemini] It's crazy. All I'm asking you is why? Why you can't be yourself? - [Meka] That's one question. He just asking one. - It was a joke, I feel bad, I'm sorry, but it is what it is. - [Meka] That's not a joke. You wasted seven years
of this young man life. - [Ashley] I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. - Ashley. Hold on, hold on, hold on. - [Ashley] I'm not doing this bull (beep)! - [Meka] It's not bull (beep). - [Ashley] I'm not doing this! (intense music) - Ashley, you all right? - [Ashley] I'm fine. - [Derek] You sure? - [Ashley] I'm fine. - She left 'cause she
ain't wanna start crying 'cause that's where she was headed. - Yeah. - But what happened to you that was so bad for you to do all this to people? - You feel like you've been attacked? - [Ashley] Yeah I do like, how dare you sit there
and talk about my marriage and say this is all bull (beep) and you don't know what the
(beep) I been going through. Yeah I get it, I hurt people I get that but don't fixing to put it, don't talk about what about your husband? Like don't do that. - [Derek] You know I didn't
come here to attack you. It's all about love baby. - [Ashley] And that's the thing, like they (beep) ambushed me. Like y'all don't know what the
(beep) I been going through the last three years. I'm gonna get this over with, 'cause I'm ready to go home. Like they don't (beep) know, like you don't know what (beep) hell this person put me through
these last (beep) three years. - [Nev] Well tell us, we wanna know. - [Ashley] Don't talk
to me right now, Nev. Thank you. - [Nev] Okay. (knocking) (knocking) What's up? - [Chance] What's up? - How you doing? - What's going on? How are you? - Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you too. - Wow. - [Nev] This is Matthew as you know. - What's up man? - What's going on? - [Chance] Good. - [Nev] So I know this is not easy for you and I appreciate you being here but clearly we are here
for the main reason which is that you guys have
been talking for a while and in an effort to
clear up any lose ends, your dad did pass away right? - Yeah. - [Nev] Okay, I'm really sorry. I can understand not wanting to deal with all this right now. - I'm doing all right. - That's good. - [Nev] So we have some questions. - Yeah. - [Kimiko] He had been
in Atlanta a few times. - [Chance] Yeah, I was in
Atlanta for a few times visiting my girlfriend. - [Nev] Sharanda, you guys are exclusive? - Yes, we are. - [Nev] Which came as a bit
of a surprise to Matthew 'cause you had never
mentioned having a girlfriend. - I mean, you should have
like kinda figured it out. - Figured it out? - [Nev] Is it crazy that
Matthew was under the impression that there was attraction and a potential for something to happen between you guys? - [Chance] Well through text and stuff, like everyday we'll send like
little stuff here and there. But it's like, you know,
I do that with everybody. - [Matthew] In my mind I'm like, "Oh, when he get to Atlanta, maybe it could be something more or we can get to know each other more." You know, who knows you
know what can transpire once he gets to Atlanta. - Well I mean you should
of like kinda got the hint when you would send me like messages like and I wouldn't really respond to it. - [Kimiko] But you did neglect to say that you had a girlfriend. - True. - [Nev] It just feels
weird to me 'cause like if you were living in New York and you're talking to
someone who lives in Atlanta and you're talking pretty often, and then you tell him you're
gonna come down to Atlanta and you wanna see him. To me that sounds like you
are giving very clear signals that you like that person. - [Chance] You're saying
like, I wanna see him. I be like, you know we should meet up. - Well sure. - Don't say it like,
don't say it like that. - [Nev] Okay, well why
don't we go inside and sit? - [Chance] Yeah please. - And yeah, let's do that. Okay, well yeah. Matt I'm gonna hold this, wait one second. Kimiko, you go in and
settle in for a second. - [Kimiko] Okay. - I just don't feel like he's being fair and like kinda making it almost feel like I gave you signals like,
that's bull (beep). I just don't wanna see
you like let him like, - Run over. - Just yeah, just sort of
like disregard all the (beep). - Yeah. - That you felt and that he
said and that like happened. Because like he doesn't wanna admit that he had feelings for you. - You weren't romantically
involved with Matt at all? - No. - I mean, we saw some text messages and it seemed pretty
flirty back and forth. - I wasn't, it wasn't like that at all. You know, I don't wanna date a dude. - So you don't date men at all? Oh okay. We were under the impression
that you were bi-sexual. - That's not true, he
lied that's not true. - Okay. - [Chance] You know,
now I'm mad about that because that's, - [Kimiko] I don't mean to make you mad. - That's not like, - Yeah. - Wow. - I just don't feel like
we're getting the whole story. - Yeah, there's something going on. Like it's just how do we get that, like how do I get that out of him? - Right. All right, let's see what he has to say. All right, much better in here. - [Chance] So you're telling these people that I'm bi-sexual Matthew? - [Matthew] Well I know in
the past you've dated men and women. - I mean if, Matthew I'm just really upset about you giving these people think, having them think that I'm bi-sexual. It's kinda coming off confusing. - [Matthew] You would
do like the heart eyes. - Right, the heart eyes. - Yeah, and all that
and that was like kinda drawing me in even more. - [Chance] Listen, I'm
never gonna date you. - [Nev] Why then were you
talking to him at all? Is this the first time
that it's been clear to you that he likes you? - Yes, this is the first time. - Really? - Yep. - Wow. It seems there's a couple issues here that amazingly hadn't
been brought up until now. One is that you're not bi-sexual, but you were having a very
flirtatious relationship. You're intentionally not
mentioning a girlfriend when you could easily
because you're trying to kind of maintain a possible
romantic relationship. - [Chance] No, I blocked
you on Instagram dude. - Well that was only recently. - Whatever, but. - You seem upset. I'm not getting that because like, if the worse thing this guy has done has been really liked you and like, hoped to be in a relationship with you then like can you be
a little nicer to him? - [Chance] I am being nice to him. - I feel like you're
not being nice to him, which is weird because
like what's the big deal? So he has a crush on you. - He's a catfish himself. You are. - And how am I a catfish? - You know how you're a catfish. - How? - [Chance] You're not a catfish at all? - No. - So what is this? What is it? - [Kimiko] Oh my god. - Oh wow. Wow. - [Chance] Like (beep) outta here. I never told you I dated men. That's nobody's (beep) business. - [Nev] This is the park. - [Kamie] I don't see anybody. - [Joseph] That is weird. What if that's her right there? - [Kamie] Where? - [Joseph] Between these trees. - [Kamie] Why is she hiding
creepily in the trees? - [Nev] Is that her? Should we go check it out? Okay. (intense music) Oh now she's walking away. - [Kamie] What? Oh no. - [Nev] Maybe she's
nervous, come on, come on. I think that's her. - [Kamie] Um, excuse me. - [Nev] Hello? - [Joseph] Hello? (intense music) - [Nev] It's all you. - All right, I got this. Hello? You know me? Hm? What's your name? - Patricia. - [Joseph] Patricia? Oh, so why all this? - Um, it was never like with
malicious intent, it never was. - You still played with
emotions and (beep). - I mean, I can't force you to believe it but the feelings really weren't a lie. - Is that the only profile that
you ever made in your life? - Yeah, and for you to believe that like I said I'm not gonna force you to. - Why throw a child in the
situation that wasn't even real? I just wanna know why would
you, why'd you do that? - I did lose a kid myself, little girl. - So that's real. - [Patricia] That's real. I need a minute. I need a minute. - Whoa, take your minute. - [Nev] Hey sorry, we
wanted to let you guys talk but I don't want you to leave
before I get to say hello. - Hi. - What's your name? I'm sorry. - Patricia. - Patricia, this is Kamie. - Hi. - [Nev] I'm Nev. I understand this is
emotional, it's a lot. - Yeah. - But don't walk away from it. So Patricia. - [Patricia] Yes. - [Nev] From Denver? - I am. - [Nev] Okay, and how old are you? - I'm 20. - [Nev] You're 20? - Yes. - [Nev] So you okay, and when did you start
the Sabrina profile? - Four years ago. - [Nev] Okay so around
the time that you met him was when you first created the page? - [Patricia] Right. - [Nev] Was there a reason initially or, - I've always been like a bigger girl, so I've been bullied all the way from the time I entered school
till almost till I got out. So I was like a sophomore
and then there's this guy and he's like, "Hey, I think
you're really beautiful." And he had a plan for
us to go to the movies and I was waiting and waiting and waiting and I finally get a text from him. He's like, "Hey, this was a joke, it was a prank, it was a bet." So that kinda just destroyed me 'cause like why am I someone's
laughing stock you know? That put me in a dark place. I just wanted to be called like pretty, so that's then when I had made that page. - [Nev] I mean, I totally
understand initially doing it just to kind of get
some positive feedback. But at some point did
it become clear to you that you could use the
profile to lure men in and then kind of get them
to possibly do things? - [Patricia] No, I'm
not that type of person. - [Nev] But at some point
you started asking for money. - I've never asked for money. - He told us that you did send, that he did send you some stuff. - Okay, I understand that. You did. - You just like used
my kindness and (beep). - I just don't know what to say. - [Kamie] What about the cousin? - [Nev] Do you have other fake profiles? - [Patricia] I just had those two. - [Nev] Wait so, was
Sabrina one and the cousin? - So that's fake? - [Patricia] Right. - That was a fake profile as well? - Right. I friend requested him because like he was messaging, flirting
with other friends and there was other females on Instagram he was flirting with. So I needed to catch him and react. - Hard for you to justify as someone who's been lying to him. It's a tough sort of case to make. - [Patricia] Right. - [Joseph] What did I ever do to you for you to impersonate and
come back as someone fake and (beep) with my feelings? - [Patricia] Actually um, let
me just start off with saying I had a daughter April 15th, 2015. So I had her and she
was just not developed. - She was premature? - [Patricia] Right. So we were sitting in the hospital, so I made Sabrina's page
because I was sitting there kind of like bored and hoping
my daughter would you know, make a recovery so that
gave me something to do. - [Nev] So wait a second, you started the profile while
you were in the hospital? - Right. - With your daughter. But you've just told us a
different version of the story. - So I had just went through this guy like making me his laughing stock and I was in the hospital with my daughter trying to see if she
has a fighting chance. So we were in the hospital until December and then they unhooked her from NICU, she didn't live past three hours. So that was like where
it was getting deeper, 'cause that's my child you know? - [Kamie] Obviously like it's impossible not to feel for you, we all feel for you but if this story is true and you're someone who has
had a daughter who passed how can you fathom creating that scenario for another woman and her child? - I'm not making a pity story, like all I could say is I'm sorry. I love you, that wasn't fake. - I'm kinda done for the day. - All right, all right well
look this is a big deal. Would you be willing to meet us tomorrow see what we can, - Come up with tomorrow? - Yeah. - Okay. - [Nev] We'll speak to you soon. - [Kamie] That was a lot. - [Joseph] That was intense. - [Kamie] You can't
help but to feel for her because she's obviously
been through a lot of (beep) for someone who's only 20 years old. - True. - But at the same time, it's hard to know how much
of her story to believe. - With her, and her
stories, and those lies I just feel like it's a messed up story what happened with her daughter and stuff but like considering the lies, how do we know she wasn't just using that to get what she wants? - And it sounded like when
you were over here with her she said she only had the one profile. - Yeah. - [Kamie] But then slowly it
came out about the second one. That makes me wonder, like is
she being completely honest? - Right. I feel like everything's a lie like, you know what I'm saying? 'Cause like who's the real you? - They just pulled into the parking lot. - Oh my goodness. - All right, you guys
wait here I'm gonna see. - [Sparkayla] Well I'm just
really stressed out right now, I'm really nervous, I have no idea. - [Nev] I don't see anyone over there. Oh. - Oh my. - [Kamie] Can we see? - [Sparkayla] Oh my god. - [Nev] Here we go. - [Kamie] Is that her? Can you see? - Hi. - Oh my god. - Hi. - Hi, Maritha. - Maritha. - That's her. - Yeah, that's her. - Interesting, very confused. But hopefully you'll explain all of it. - [Maritha] I will. - [Nev] You got us all really scratching our heads on this one. - Yeah, that's the girl on the picture. - [Nev] So this is Maritha from the photo. - How are you? - I'm good. - [Nev] So it's you. - It's me. - [Nev] I don't know what
to say, I'm speechless. - Kamie. - Oh sorry, and Kamie. - [Kamie] Nice to meet you. - Yeah what, okay I have
a whole lot of questions. - [Nev] Wait, why don't
we let you start maybe 'cause I know you said you had some stuff you wanted to talk about. - [Maritha] I know it
seemed like I was shady, but I'm really who I am. I was just shady because I
had a lot of disappointment in my life when I tried
to meet my family members. Like how Dedranae blew me off, like everybody basically was just like, "Oh, no we don't wanna deal with you." You know? - I never made you feel like that. From day one when you
told me you was my sister, I just accepted you. I didn't have no proof,
no evidence, no nothing and I just accepted you. - You did. - [Sparkayla] I opened
myself up to you a whole lot. - I'm sorry if I hurt you. - I'm just confused because
like the video chat thing. - [Sparkayla] Yeah, why you
didn't wanna video chat? Like why was it like, - It never really worked. It was never really a good time for me. - That's pretty strange behavior. - [Maritha] True, I just,
I have a lot going on. I'm always working, so you know maybe I did distance
myself for a little while. - [Nev] It just feels
like this is a situation that could have happened
a lot, a long time ago. - [Sparkayla] Yeah, it
coulda happened in San Diego. - [Nev] Were you really in San Diego? - I was. - [Kamie] Did you really leave San Diego? - I did. I don't think I was ready. I wasn't ready. - So you made me wait another year? - I wasn't ready. - This is, this is so crazy like. - [Nev] Just to confirm
what's your dad's name? - His name is Tommy. - Okay, that's your dad's name. - Yes. - [Kamie] But you have
a different last name? - [Maritha] I do, I have
my mother's last name. - [Nev] Got it. - Did you always know that
Sparkayla's dad was your dad? - [Maritha] When I was younger, my mom told me I had
a sister named Sparkle and I been trying to
meet her for a long time and when I had a MySpace, I went in there putting in Sparkle (beep) but nothing ever came up. One day four years ago,
I talked to my uncle and he just spilled the beans. He's the one that gave me her information so I started talking to her on Instagram and we started talking. - Everybody question is like we never heard anything
about another sister and that's kinda like why at this point I feel like we need to do a DNA test. I need to know for my own self now. - [Nev] We actually looked into that and there is a place nearby
that does these tests. Are you open to taking a paternity test? - No. - [Nev] Why? - I don't, I don't want you to get hurt. - Why you think I'm gonna get hurt? - My dad made a statement
before about one of us, so I don't want one of us to get hurt. - About one of us? - [Nev] Okay wait, so hold on a second. You are in touch with your dad? - I am. - [Nev] Are you suggesting that
she may not be his daughter? - That's what you think? Did he tell you that? - Yes. - Wow. When did your dad tell that to you? Before you reached out to her? - [Maritha] No. - [Nev] So after. - [Maritha] After I reached out to her. - Interesting. - Jesus. That's, that's a lot. - [Maritha] Yeah. - Well we could take the test, I'm ready. - I would love to just get
the answer to all of this. I've been waiting eight
seasons to do a DNA test. Can we just go there, is it open now? - [Olga] Yeah, it's around here somewhere. - [Nev] Okay great, so now that
all this is out in the open are you comfortable
potentially doing a DNA test? - Yes, I'll do it. - [Kamie] You both understand
like this is a big deal. This is not like any light (beep). - Yes. - Yeah. It's been two years, I need to know. - [Nev] Okay great, so
let's head over there. This is crazy. - [Sparkayla] If my
dad is not my dad, wow. That's a first. - [Kamie] But do you,
you don't believe that? - [Sparkayla] No, I don't
believe that at all. (upbeat music) This whole experience, oh my god, she really got me mind blown. - [Nev] This is it. - [Sparkayla] Like I'm
just hoping that Maritha is who she say she is. - [Kamie] Are you ready for this? - Oh, this is scary. - I know. - The results will be expedited so we should receive
them within 12, 24 hours we should have them. - So by tomorrow? - Yeah. - [Kamie] If the DNA does not match, then we have a situation. - [Sparkayla] Let's see
if Maritha is my sister.
