Brad Meltzer's Decoded: Proof of UFOs Revealed (S2, E7) | Full Episode | History

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👍︎︎ 4 👤︎︎ u/awaxakins 📅︎︎ Jul 20 2020 🗫︎ replies

The old security guard just admitted Bob Lazar worked at S4 and was on the project he says he was!!!! OH MY GOD!!!

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WHAT IF I TOLD YOU OUR GOVERNMENT IS HIDING DEFINITIVE PROOF OF ALIEN LIFE? A RECENT POLL REPORTS 40 MILLION AMERICANS HAVE SEEN OR KNOW SOMEONE WHO'S SEEN A UFO. BUT MILITARY LEADERS AND POLITICIANS CONTINUE TO DENY THE EXISTENCE OF ALIENS. FINALLY, GOVERNMENT INSIDERS ARE BREAKING THEIR SILENCE AND GIVING US THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT THEY KNOW AND WHY THEY'RE COVERING IT UP. OF ALL THE THINGS YOU'VE E-MAILED ME ABOUT, HERE'S ONE OF THE MOST REQUESTED. IT IS TIME TO DECODE WHAT THE GOVERNMENT KNOWS ABOUT ALIEN LIFE. I'M BRAD MELTZER. I'VE SPENT MY LIFE COLLECTING STORIES -- SIGNS, SYMBOLS, AND CODES HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT. SOME HAVE BECOME THE BASIS FOR MY NOVELS, BUT I'VE ONLY SCRATCHED THE SURFACE. AND NOW HISTORY HAS GIVEN ME THE RESOURCES TO INVESTIGATE THE REST. THIS IS "DECODED." [ RINGING ] HI, BRAD. HEY, BRAD. You knew this was coming. Who's ready to have a close encounter of the third kind? NO WAY. AS IN ALIENS? MELTZER: Okay, I can hear you guys rolling your eyes from here. [ LAUGHS ] IT'S MOSTLY ME. Well, let me tell you. There are a lot of very reputable, very intelligent people who would disagree with you guys. REALLY? LIKE WHO? President Ronald Reagan. SERIOUSLY? YES? President Jimmy Carter. WHAT? Prime Minister Mikhail Gorbachev. THESE ARE HEADS OF STATE AND THEY MIGHT HAVE HAD EVIDENCE. THAT'S WEIRD. I'm telling you, people really believe in this stuff. And the first place I think you should check out is the site of the most famous American UFO incident -- Roswell, New Mexico. OKAY. YOU MAY THINK YOU'VE HEARD THIS ALL BEFORE, BUT THERE'S MORE. HERE'S WHAT MOST PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT ROSWELL, NEW MEXICO. IN JULY OF 1947, A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER ISSUED A PRESS RELEASE SAYING THEY RECOVERED A FLYING DISC. THE VERY NEXT DAY, THE MILITARY RETRACTED THAT STATEMENT AND SAID IT WAS A RADAR TRACKING BALLOON, NOT A FLYING SAUCER. BUT WHAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IS THAT IN JUNE OF 1947, A PILOT NAMED KENNETH ARNOLD FLYING IN WASHINGTON STATE REPORTED SEEING SOMETHING EERILY SIMILAR. HE DESCRIBED GLOWING OBJECTS IN A "V" FORMATION AT A SPEED OF 1,700 MILES PER HOUR AND SAID THEY FLEW LIKE A SAUCER IF YOU SKIP IT ACROSS THE WATER. ARNOLD WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO REPORT A FLYING SAUCER, AND HE DID IT JUST TWO WEEKS BEFORE ROSWELL. Shuster: MY DAD WAS WALTER HAUT. HE WAS A LIEUTENANT AT THE LOCAL BASE HERE, ROSWELL ARMY AIRFIELD. HE WAS A BOMBARDIER NAVIGATOR WITH FLIGHT STATUS. HE ALSO WAS A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER FOR THE BASE. AND ON JULY 8, 1947, COLONEL BLANCHARD CALLED HIM IN THAT MORNING AND SAID, "YOU NEED TO ISSUE A PRESS RELEASE. WE FOUND A FLYING SAUCER." AND SO, HE ISSUED THE PRESS RELEASE. BASICALLY, "WE HAVE IN OUR POSSESSION A FLYING SAUCER. IT'S BEING FLOWN TO HIGHER HEADQUARTERS." AND THERE WAS A CONTRADICTORY STORY THE NEXT DAY FROM GENERAL RAMEY SAYING BASICALLY, "IT'S A WEATHER BALLOON. PEOPLE HERE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT." AND ONCE THEY SAID, "IT'S A WEATHER BALLOON," IT'S CLASSIFIED, DONE. HERE'S THE KEY QUESTION, RIGHT? MAYBE IT WAS JUST A WEATHER BALLOON. SO, TO FIGURE IT OUT, WE NEED TO ASK, "WHAT DID HAUT ACTUALLY SEE? DID IT LOOK LIKE A WEATHER BALLOON?" HERE'S THE FACT YOU NEED TO KNOW -- AT THE TIME OF THE ROSWELL SIGHTING, WEATHER BALLOONS WERE MADE FROM A FLEXIBLE, LIGHTWEIGHT, NEOPRENE RUBBER, WEIGHING IN AT LESS THAN ONE POUND. TETHERED TO THE TRAIN WOULD BE A SHORT, NYLON KITE TAIL FEATURING A DATA TRANSMITTER. BUT THAT'S ABOUT AS COMPLICATED AS THESE DEVICES GOT. HAUT DESCRIBED SOMETHING OTHERWORLDLY AND INDESTRUCTIBLE. SO, COULD AN ACCOMPLISHED MILITARY MAN, AN AVIATOR, REALLY CONFUSE AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL SPACECRAFT WITH A ONE-POUND WEATHER BALLOON? DID YOU EVER HAVE A HEART-TO-HEART WITH YOUR FATHER AND SAY, "OKAY, DAD, WHAT EXACTLY DID YOU SEE?" OR, "WHAT DO YOU KNOW?" HE HANDLED THE DEBRIS. OH. I DID ASK HIM AT ONE POINT FOR SOME DETAILS ABOUT THE SAUCER. ABOUT 22 FEET IN DIAMETER. HE DID MAKE STATEMENTS ABOUT, "WE COULDN'T BURN IT. WE COULDN'T TEAR IT. WE COULDN'T CUT IT." WHICH TOLD ME THAT IT WAS NOT OF THIS EARTH. DID YOUR FATHER SEE THE BODIES? MY FATHER SAW SOMETHING UNDER A TARP AT THE HANGER. OKAY. NOW, HE DID DESCRIBE LARGE, BLACK EYES, SLITS FOR NOSE, A LITTLE SLIT FOR MOUTH, SLITS FOR EARS, LONG EXTENDED FOREFINGERS, LONGER ARMS, WHICH TO ME IS PRETTY DETAILED FOR SOMEBODY THAT DIDN'T SEE SOMETHING. DO YOU THINK THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS COVERING SOMETHING UP? MY OPINION, AND GENERAL OPINION OF PROBABLY ABOUT 75% OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME THROUGH THE MUSEUM -- YES, THE GOVERNMENT IS COVERING SOMETHING UP. I BELIEVE THAT WE WERE VISITED. I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THERE IS MORE OUT THERE. Balthaser: YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHO WAS STATIONED HERE. IT WAS THE 509th BOMB WING WHO DROPPED THE ATOMIC BOMBS ON HIROSHIMA AND NAGASAKI TO END THE SECOND WORLD WAR. THESE WERE NOT TYPICAL G.I.s. THESE WERE THE BEST WE HAD. THE BEST PILOTS, THE BEST NAVIGATORS. AND TO SAY THAT THEY COULD HANDLE AND DELIVER THE ATOMIC BOMB, BUT TOO DUMB TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A WEATHER BALLOON AND A FLYING SAUCER IS NOT SOMETHING I CAN BUY INTO. THE BUILDING BEHIND US IS HANGAR 84 IN 1947. THE DEBRIS THAT WAS BROUGHT FROM THE RANCH 60 MILES NORTHWEST OF HERE WAS BROUGHT TO THE HANGAR AND STORED HERE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. AND WE ALSO HAVE WITNESSES WHO CLAIM TO HAVE SEEN BODIES INSIDE THE HANGAR. McKinley: A BODY FROM THE CRASH? MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE TALKED TO NOW SAY THEY WERE WHAT WE WOULD REFER TO AS HUMANOID. WALTER HAUT TOLD ME THAT HE SAW A BODY LAYING ON THE FLOOR PARTIALLY COVERED WITH A TARP THAT HE DESCRIBED AS ABOUT THE SIZE OF A 12-YEAR-OLD CHILD. THEY HAVE THE FEATURES OF A HUMAN BODY, EXCEPT THEY HAVE THE LARGER EYES, A BIGGER HEAD. THERE'S BEEN DESCRIPTIONS OF FOUR FINGERS INSTEAD OF FIVE. VERY THIN. NOT ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY HAS EVER SEEN. WHAT IS YOUR BELIEF ABOUT THIS HUMANOID? BASED ON THE INFORMATION I'VE GOTTEN OVER THE LAST 15, 20 YEARS FROM WITNESSES, I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT IT WAS NOT ANYTHING OF EARTH. IT'S EASY TO THINK THESE REPORTS ARE INFLUENCED BY POPULAR IMAGES AND MOVIES OF THE TIME 'CAUSE THE BIG EYES AND THE OVAL HEAD AND THE GRAY SKIN SOUND LIKE EVERY ALIEN YOU'VE EVER SEEN IN ANY BAD SCIENCE FICTION MOVIE, RIGHT? EXCEPT THAT MOST OF THOSE MOVIES CAME OUT AFTER THE REPORTED ALIEN SIGHTINGS. AND MANY OF THE MOVIES CLAIM TO HAVE BEEN BASED ON DEPICTIONS OF PEOPLE'S REPORTS. SO, WHICH CAME FIRST -- THE CHICKEN, OR THE LITTLE, GREEN EGG? WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE DEBRIS THAT THEY FOUND? THE DEBRIS, AS FAR AS WE KNOW, WAS SHIPPED TO DAYTON, OHIO, TO WRIGHT-PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE. AND TODAY, IT'S PROBABLY AT AREA 51 BECAUSE OF BETTER SECURITY. SO, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE IS STILL DEBRIS, POTENTIALLY, AT AREA 51 FROM THIS CRAFT THAT LANDED NEAR HERE. MOST DEFINITELY. Rolle: HOW HARD IS IT TO GET INTO AREA 51? YOU HAVE NO CHANCE. I WENT THERE IN 2006. THERE'S A 13-MILE-LONG DIRT ROAD THAT GOES DOWN, AND THERE IS NO FENCE. YOU HAVE A GATE, YOU'VE GOT SIGNS. ONE OF THE SIGNS SAYS, "USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED," AND I BELIEVE THEY MEAN IT. IT'S PATROLLED BY F-16s AND HELICOPTERS. THEY HAVE SPHERES ON TOP OF POLES EVERY SO OFTEN FOR THE PILOTS TO KNOW WHERE THE BOUNDARY IS, AND THEN THERE'S A CAMERA MOUNTED ON A 30-FOOT POLE. YOU'RE JUST MAKING ME WANT TO GO THERE SO BAD. OH, YOU DO. IS THERE ANYWHERE TO HIDE OUT THERE? NO. NO. AND THEY KNOW YOU'RE COMING. THAT 13-MILE ROAD, BY THE TIME I GOT TO THE ENTRANCE, THEY PROBABLY KNEW MY LICENSE NUMBER, THEY KNEW WHERE I WAS FROM. IF YOU GO IN THERE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLE IMPRISONMENT, AND THEY'RE GONNA KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. McKinley: I THINK SOMETHING WAS COVERED UP, BUT WHAT I CAN'T GET TO IS WHERE IS THE FIRST POINT WHERE THE COVERING BEGINS? MM-HMM. WELL, LET'S START WITH THE FIRST PRESS RELEASE. I MEAN, WE'VE LEARNED FROM JULIE SHUSTER THAT HER FATHER, YOU KNOW, CREATED THIS PRESS RELEASE. AND THEN BEFORE THAT DAY ENDED, THERE WAS A RETRACTION AND A RE-DO. I'M WITH YOU. SOMETHING HAPPENED. I'M JUST NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS. A WEIRD FLYING OBJECT. MM-HMM. INFORMATION GETS RELEASED THEY DON'T WANT RELEASED. THEY'RE LIKE, "OH, WE GOT TO REIGN THIS THING IN." BUT THIS IS A SIX-DECADE-LONG COVER-UP. THEN YOU START GETTING INTO WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON AT AREA 51. I MEAN, THESE ARE MASSIVE STRETCHES OF LAND. I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE ON ONE THING, RIGHT? SOMETHING CRASHED IN ROSWELL IN 1947, AND IT WASN'T A WEATHER BALLOON. ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK WE CAN ALSO AGREE THAT WE HAVE TO GO TO AREA 51. OUR INVESTIGATION INTO THE GOVERNMENT'S ALLEGED COVER-UP OF ALIEN LIFE POINTS US RIGHT TO ONLY ONE PLACE -- AREA 51. ALTHOUGH IT WAS FIRST USED AS A MILITARY AIRFIELD IN THE '40s, AND IT'S BEEN HOME TO CIA SPY CRAFT AND NUCLEAR TESTING SINCE THE '50s, THE GOVERNMENT DENIED THAT AREA 51 OFFICIALLY EXISTED UNTIL JULY 14, 2003. BUT BEFORE BUDDY, McKINLEY, AND SCOTT ATTEMPT TO ACCESS ONE OF THE MOST HIGHLY SECRETIVE AND CLASSIFIED LOCATIONS ON U.S. SOIL, WE FOUND SOME PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WORK THERE. AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE WILLING TO TALK TO US. I WAS TOLD THAT WHAT I WAS GONNA BE GUARDING WAS MORE CLASSIFIED THAN THE ATOMIC BOMB. CAN I ASK YOU WHAT IT IS YOU WERE GUARDING? WE WERE TOLD THAT IT WAS A WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE PLANE. SO, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAD A SECURITY CLEARANCE, YOU WERE STILL BASICALLY LIED TO ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY IT WAS YOU WERE GUARDING. OF COURSE. AND THAT'S THE WAY IT HAD TO BE. THIS IS THE GUY YOU WANT IN YOUR CORNER. I LOVE THIS MAN. HE WAS ONE OF THE VERY FIRST PEOPLE EMPLOYED AT AREA 51. HE WAS GIVEN A DIRECTIVE TO KEEP QUIET ON HIS FIRST DAY IN 1957, AND THAT DIRECTIVE WAS NEVER OFFICIALLY LIFTED. SO, AS MUCH AS I WANT HIM TO TELL US ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING, HE IS STILL HONORING HIS ORDERS. YOU'VE GOT TO RESPECT HIM FOR THAT. BUT DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE NOT GONNA ASK HIM WHAT HE SAW IN AREA 51? WHAT ARE YOU, HIGH? WERE YOU GIVEN ACCESS TO THE ENTIRE AREA? I MEAN, COULD YOU GO ANYWHERE YOU WANTED? NO. THERE WAS ONE BUILDING, A HANGAR, THAT WAS LIMITED TO ALMOST EVERYBODY. THERE WAS ONLY MAYBE A HALF-DOZEN PEOPLE THAT COULD GO IN THERE. AND YOU NEVER SAW WHAT WAS IN THERE? YES. YOU DID? YES. ARE YOU ALLOWED TO SAY NOW WHAT WAS IN THERE? NO. [ CHUCKLES ] WOW. BUT EVERYBODY MAKES AN ERROR. AND IT WAS ON A WEEKEND. AND I WAS WALKING, CHECKING ALL THE DOORS, MAKING SURE EVERYTHING WAS SECURE, AND I COME UP TO THIS HANGAR THAT I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO GO IN. AND I CRACKED THE DOOR, AND IT'S OPEN. SO, YOU SAW SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN'T DISCUSS WITH ME. AND ALL THESE YEARS LATER YOU STILL CAN'T DISCUSS THAT? I'VE NEVER TOLD ANYBODY. THE GOVERNMENT HAS DECLASSIFIED ALL KINDS OF TOP-SECRET DOCUMENTS ON SUBJECTS RANGING FROM WATERGATE TO GUANTáNAMO BAY, FROM THE BAY OF PIGS TO THE VIETNAM WAR AND EVEN THE ATTACKS ON SEPTEMBER 11th. ALL OF THOSE ARE HUGELY SENSITIVE TOPICS THAT THE GOVERNMENT WOULD LOVE TO CONTROL. BUT THEY'VE COMPLIED WITH THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND RELEASED THE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC. WHY, THEN, IS AREA 51 THE ONE TOPIC SO SENSITIVE THAT THE GOVERNMENT REFUSES TO GIVE UP EVEN A SINGLE DETAIL? I HAVE TO ASK THE OBVIOUS QUESTION. YOU WORKED THERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS IN AREA 51. DID YOU SEE OR HEAR ABOUT ANY EXTRATERRESTRIAL AIRCRAFT OR BEINGS BEING ON THAT PROPERTY? NO. AT NO TIME? NO. WOULD YOU TELL ME IF YOU DID? NO. NOW, WITH THE OTHER PERSONNEL, I MEAN, WERE THINGS PRETTY TIGHT ONCE YOU WERE THERE? I MEAN, WAS EVERYBODY THAT WORKED THERE AS TIGHT-LIPPED AS YOU? WELL, I DON'T LIKE TO GET IN, BUT YOU'RE GETTING INTO AN AREA THAT IS VERY, VERY SENSITIVE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NATIONAL SECURITY. MM-HMM. SO, IT'S POSSIBLE AFTER I HAD GONE, THE PROGRAM THAT BOB LAZAR WAS ASSIGNED WITH WOULD HAVE BEEN, I BELIEVE, BETTER OFF HAD THEY KEPT IT AS SECRET AS POSSIBLE. AND A LOT LESS PEOPLE WOULD KNOW ABOUT IT TODAY. BOB LAZAR IS A FASCINATING AND CONTROVERSIAL CHARACTER. AND TO BE CLEAR, WHEN YOU DEAL WITH HIM, IT IS DIFFICULT TO SEPARATE FACT FROM FICTION. LAZAR CLAIMS TO BE AN M.I.T. AND CALTECH-EDUCATED PHYSICIST. HE WAS REPORTED TO HAVE CREATED A JET ENGINE CAR THAT COULD GO OVER 200 MILES AN HOUR. BUT HIS INFAMOUS CLAIM IS THAT HE WORKED IN SECTOR 4 OF AREA 51 -- DIRECTLY WITH ALIEN SPACECRAFT AND TECHNOLOGY. OF COURSE, THIS IS DENIED BY THE GOVERNMENT. AND THE SCHOOLS HE SWEARS TO HAVE DEGREES FROM, CALTECH AND M.I.T., THEY HAVE NO RECORD OF HIM ATTENDING. IN HIS DEFENSE, LAZAR SAYS THAT THE GOVERNMENT DISPOSED OF ALL HIS RECORDS AFTER HE TOLD THE MEDIA IN SPECIFIC DETAIL ABOUT THE NINE FLYING DISC FLIGHTS AT AREA 51. AND HERE'S WHERE IT GETS EVEN MORE INTERESTING. LAZAR DIDN'T JUST CLAIM TO SEE ALIEN SAUCERS. HE CLAIMED TO HAVE SEEN ALIENS. Rolle: WE'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO AREA 51, AND THIS NAME BOB LAZAR KEEPS COMING UP. AND WE UNDERSTAND YOU WERE FRIENDS WITH HIM. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. I MET BOB IN 1988, THE SUMMER OF 1988. HE TOOK US OUT TO SEE ONE OF THE FLYING SAUCERS FLY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, MADE A LITTLE CHART HERE. RIGHT IN THAT LITTLE SPOT THERE WAS WHERE WE PARKED THE MOTOR HOME. Levy: WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. YOU TOOK A MOTOR HOME TO GO WATCH A FLYING SAUCER? RIGHT. McKinley: WITH BOB LAZAR? WITH BOB. Rolle: WOW. I SET UP MY TELESCOPE -- MY CELESTRON TELESCOPE. WE WERE APPROXIMATELY IN THIS POSITION AND WE LOOKED OVER THE MOUNTAINS AND SAW THIS SAUCER COME UP. IT WENT TO THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT. AND THIS HAPPENS? EVERY DAY. JOHN LEAR IS A HUMBLE AND UNASSUMING GUY, SO LET ME DO A LITTLE BRAGGING FOR HIM. HE'S QUITE SIMPLY ONE OF THE MOST ACCOMPLISHED PILOTS IN UNITED STATES HISTORY. HE'S FLOWN 150 TYPES OF AIRCRAFT. HE IS THE ONLY PILOT EVER TO EARN EVERY AIRMAN CERTIFICATE ISSUED BY THE F.A.A. HE HELD 18 WORLD SPEED RECORDS, AND HE FLEW MISSIONS FOR THE CIA. BY THE WAY, HIS DAD BILL LEAR -- HE INVENTED SOMETHING CALLED THE LEAR JET. SO, WHEN IT COMES TO AIR TRAVEL, THERE ARE FEW PEOPLE ON EARTH WITH MORE KNOWLEDGE OR EXPERIENCE THAN JOHN LEAR. LET'S SAY FOR A MINUTE THAT THERE ARE FLYING SAUCERS AND THERE ARE ALIENS UP THERE IN AREA 51. WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH THEM? THE ALIENS GIVE US TECHNOLOGY, AND WE USE THAT TECHNOLOGY. ARE WE REVERSE ENGINEERING THEIR CRAFT SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THEM? THAT'S RIGHT. WE TRY TO REVERSE ENGINEER IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S MILLIONS OF YEARS AHEAD OF US. SO, DO YOU THINK YOUR DAD'S COMPANY WAS INVOLVED IN SOME OF THE REVERSE ENGINEERING FROM THE ALIEN CRAFT? ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE FIRST COMPANY HE HAD WAS MOTOROLA, AND THEN MY DAD FORMED HIS OWN COMPANY. IT BECAME LEAR INCORPORATED. HE WAS VERY INVOLVED IN ALL OF THIS THAT WAS GOING ON AND WENT ON TO DIFFERENT PROJECTS. OKAY. TIME OUT. IF WHAT JOHN LEAR SAYS IS TRUE, THEN WE HAVE AN ANSWER. WHY WOULD THE GOVERNMENT WANT TO DENY THAT ALIENS EXIST OR THAT WE'VE HAD CONTACT? ONE REASON -- BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT ITSELF IS ACTUALLY BORROWING FROM ALIEN TECHNOLOGY. AND BEFORE YOU ROLL YOUR EYES, THINK FOR A SECOND OF THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT. WE'RE IN A QUICKLY ESCALATING COLD WAR, ONE THAT'S BEING FOUGHT WITH ESPIONAGE, SCIENCE, AND FUTURISTIC WEAPONS. AT A TIME LIKE THAT, YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT WE WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING TO MAINTAIN A TECHNOLOGICAL EDGE OVER OUR ENEMIES? AND HERE'S WHAT WE KNOW FOR SURE. IN JULY 1947, SOMETHING LANDS IN ROSWELL, NEW MEXICO, AND IS QUICKLY WHISKED AWAY BY THE MILITARY. JUST THREE MONTHS LATER, CHUCK YEAGER ACHIEVED SOMETHING THAT SCIENTISTS PREVIOUSLY BELIEVED IMPOSSIBLE -- HE BREAKS THE SOUND BARRIER. THAT'S ABOUT 771 MILES AN HOUR. NOW JOHN LEAR IS CLAIMING THAT HIS DAD HAD CONTACT WITH ALIENS AND CREATED HIS FIRST MOBILE PHONE IN THE 1940s. THIS WAS BEFORE COLOR TELEVISION, WHEELS ON SUITCASES, AND IN AN AGE WHEN DOCTORS STILL BELIEVED THAT CIGARETTES WERE GOOD FOR YOU. BY 1969, MOTOROLA MADE A GIANT LEAP FORWARD, AS IN "ONE SMALL STEP FOR MAN, ONE GIANT LEAP FOR MANKIND." NEIL ARMSTRONG PHONED HOME USING A MOTOROLA, WHICH JUST HAPPENED TO WORK IN SPACE. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? JOHN, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WE'VE TALKED TO THAT HAVE THE SECURITY CLEARANCE UP THERE HAVE TAKEN IT VERY SERIOUSLY, AND THEY WILL NOT TELL US THINGS THEY'VE SEEN. WHY DID BOB LAZAR BREACH THAT, SO TO SPEAK? BECAUSE HE FELT THAT THE PUBLIC NEEDED TO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON -- HOW THERE COULD BE SOMETHING SO BIG THAT AFFECTS ALL OF US BEING KEPT SECRET. READY FOR ONE MORE FASCINATING FOOTNOTE? YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO BOB LAZAR AFTER HIS SO-CALLED ENCOUNTERS WITH ALIENS? HE STARTED A COMPANY CALLED UNITED NUCLEAR. THEY'RE AN AMATEUR SCIENTIFIC SUPPLY COMPANY THAT SELLS ITEMS SUCH AS RADIOACTIVE ORE, SUPER-MAGNETS, AND AEROGEL -- THE LIGHTEST AND LOWEST-DENSITY SOLID EVER KNOWN TO MAN. THIS STUFF IS SO LIGHT IT'S ONLY THREE TIMES HEAVIER THAN AIR, BUT IT CAN SUPPORT 1,000 TIMES ITS WEIGHT, AND ITS MELTING POINT IS 2,200 DEGREES. I KNOW IT SOUNDS WACKY, BUT YOU HAVE TO ADMIT, THE PEOPLE WHO CLAIM TO HAVE HAD CONTACT WITH ALIENS ALSO SEEM TO KEEP SUDDENLY COMING UP WITH MATERIAL AND TECHNOLOGIES THAT THE EARTH HAS NEVER SEEN. HOW CAN THEY POSSIBLY KEEP THIS SECRET FOR SO LONG? THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT KEEPING A SECRET. THEY'THEY'VE GOT ITT, YOU KNSO WELL COVERED UP THAT UNTIL THEY'RE READY TO RELEASE ANYTHING, NOTHING'S GONNA COME OUT. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW. SO FAR, OUR INVESTIGATION INTO WHAT IS BELIEVED TO BE A U.S. GOVERNMENT COVER-UP OF EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE HAS TURNED UP SOME INCREDIBLE STORIES OF PEOPLE SEEING ALIEN SPACECRAFT AND ALIEN BODIES. OFFICIALLY, ALL THE GOVERNMENT WILL SAY ABOUT AREA 51 IS THAT IT'S AN OPERATING LOCATION NEAR GROOM LAKE, NEVADA. BUT WE'VE CONFIRMED IT'S A TEST SITE FOR EXPERIMENTAL AIRCRAFT AND WEAPONRY THAT'S USED BY THE AIR FORCE AND THE CIA. SOME SAY IT'S ALSO A STOREHOUSE FOR RECOVERED UFOs AND THE ALIENS THAT DIED WHEN THEY CRASHED ON EARTH. OTHERS SAY THE ALIENS DIDN'T DIE. IMAGES OF AREA 51 NEVER APPEAR IN U.S. GOVERNMENT MAPS, AVIATION, OR NAVIGATION CHARTS, BUT THERE'S RUMORED TO BE A SECRET AIRLINE JUST FOR TRANSPORTING AREA 51 EMPLOYEES. THE AIRPORT ALLEGEDLY LIES ON AN UNMARKED AIRFIELD COMPLETELY HIDDEN FROM VIEW, UNLESS YOU KNOW WHERE TO LOOK. McKinley: WE THINK THAT THESE ARE THE PLANES THAT TAKE PEOPLE TO AREA 51. THESE AIRLINERS? Levy: EXACTLY. IT'S CALLED JANET AIRLINES, WHICH IS PRETTY AMUSING. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, HUNDREDS OF EMPLOYEES. JANET AIRLINES ACTUALLY HAS SIX 737s CARRYING APPROXIMATELY 190 PASSENGERS EACH AND FIVE SMALLER JETS. THAT'S A FLEET CAPABLE OF TRANSPORTING 1,200 PEOPLE A DAY TO A PLACE THAT DOES NOT EXIST. NO ONE KNOWS WHY THE NAME JANET WAS CHOSEN, BUT SOME SAY IT STANDS FOR "JOINT AIR NETWORK FOR EMPLOYEE TRANSPORTATION," WHILE OTHERS CLAIM, "JUST ANOTHER NON-EXISTENT TERMINAL." I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA GET ON ONE OF THESE JANET AIRPLANES. BUT WE'VE GOT TO GO THERE. I'LL GO. OKAY. Rolle: HEY, BRAD. MELTZER: It sounds noisy where you guys are. WELL, WE'RE AT AN AIRFIELD, ACTUALLY, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PLANES THAT BRING PEOPLE TO AREA 51, THE AREA THAT DOESN'T OFFICIALLY EXIST. We need to book you guys three tickets. YEAH, I THINK THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT, SO WE'RE THINKING OF JUST DRIVING TO AREA 51. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT IDEA? I love it. That's what we're here to do. WE HOPE WE DON'T END UP SAYING, "IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD IDEA AT THE TIME." MELTZER: Do be careful, 'cause remember this is a place that doesn't exist. So, if anything's gonna happen to you, it'll be like it never happened. WELL, LET'S AT LEAST MEMORIZE PHONE NUMBERS. THE LAST TIME WE WERE IN JAIL, WE COULDN'T REMEMBER ANYONE'S PHONE NUMBER. SO, WE'LL HAVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER, YOU'LL HAVE BAIL MONEY, AND YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING THERE. If anything happens to you, I'm just hoping it's a problem that can be solved with bail money. OKAY, HE'S MESSING WITH US AGAIN. McKinley: NOT REALLY. I HOPE SO. Meltzer: TO GET TO AREA 51, YOU TRAVEL A ROAD OFFICIALLY KNOWN AS ROUTE 375, BUT KNOWN TO EVERYONE ELSE AS THE EXTRATERRESTRIAL HIGHWAY. AREA 51 SHARES A BORDER WITH THE YUCCA FLAT REGION OF THE NEVADA TEST SITE, WHERE MORE THAN 700 NUCLEAR TESTS OCCURRED. AND IF YOU DIDN'T THINK THE NEIGHBORS COULD GET WORSE, YUCCA MOUNTAIN NUCLEAR WASTE REPOSITORY IS 44 MILES TO THE SOUTHWEST. AT THE CENTER OF AREA 51 IS GROOM LAKE, A SALT FLAT ABOUT 3 MILES IN DIAMETER. ON ITS SOUTH SIDE IS A SERIES OF LANDING STRIPS, A DORMITORY, A FIRE HOUSE, AND EVEN BASEBALL FIELDS AND TENNIS COURTS. AREA 51 HAS MORE HANGARS THAN A TYPICAL MILITARY BASE, PRESUMABLY TO PROVIDE MORE COVER AND SECRECY FROM THE AIR. [ SIREN WAILING ] Levy: OH. OKAY. LOOK AT THAT. Rolle: THE COPS ARE PULLING US OVER. McKinley: THEY'RE NOT AFTER US. OKAY, THAT'S LIKE MULTIPLE COP CARS. THEIR LIGHTS ARE ON. DO YOU THINK THAT'S COMING FROM AREA 51? WE WERE JUST A FEW MILES OUTSIDE OF AREA 51, AND WE SAW A HUGE LINE OF POLICE CARS SPEEDING TOWARDS US. LIGHTS WERE FLASHING, SIRENS WERE BLARING. WE PULLED OVER, AND NONE OF US COULD BELIEVE WHAT WE SAW NEXT. [ WAILING CONTINUES ] OKAY, THERE'S A GIANT WHITE THING COMING THIS WAY. Rolle: LOOK AT THAT THING. IS IT -- IT'S A WIDE LOAD. LOOK AT THIS. THIS IS BEYOND A WIDE LOAD. IT'S TAKING THE WHOLE -- HERE IT COMES. RIGHT THERE. CHECK IT OUT. [ INDISTINCT CONVERSATION ] NO, THAT THING WAS MASSIVE! OH, MY GOD. McKINLEY, FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, I MEAN, WHAT IN THE WORLD COULD BE GOING DOWN THE ROAD THAT BIG WAY OUT HERE? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE GUIDED IN TURBINES AND GENERATORS FOR POWER PLANTS THAT WERE ACTUALLY SMALLER THAN THAT. HOW ABOUT THAT MANY COPS? OH, NO, NO, NO. NEVER. NEVER. YOU KNOW, I'M WONDERING -- TO COVER SOMETHING, YOU WOULD EITHER WANT TO KEEP IT VEILED SO YOU CAN'T SEE IT OR PROTECT IT. SO, THE QUESTION IS, "WHAT WAS IT AND WHERE IS IT GOING?" WELL, WE KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM. KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN, GUYS. THIS IS NOT EASY TO FIND. NO. YOU SURE WE'RE IN THE RIGHT PLACE? I DON'T WANT TO RUN OUT OF GAS OUT HERE. OF COURSE, IT'S NOT ON THE NAVIGATION, SO... WHAT'S OUR BEARING? DUE WEST? YES. OKAY. THAT SHOULD BE RIGHT. I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING THIS BARREN. NOT EVEN THE ALASKAN TUNDRA. IT'S BIZARRE. IT REALLY DOESN'T LOOK LIKE EARTH. IT'D BE A GOOD PLACE TO HOUSE ALIEN LIFE. THEY CAN PUT ANYTHING IN AREA 51 -- ANYTHING AT ALL -- BECAUSE LOOK HOW HARD IT IS TO GET THERE. YEAH, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE LUCKY, YOU CAN FLY IN. THERE'S A WARNING SIGN RIGHT THERE, GUYS. UH-OH. OH. "WARNING -- U.S. AIR FORCE INSTALLATION. "MAXIMUM PUNISHMENT $1,000 FINE, "SIX-MONTH IMPRISONMENT OR BOTH. STRICTLY ENFORCED." IT'S THE STRICTLY ENFORCED PART THAT KIND OF FREAKS ME OUT. I THINK THERE'S TWO PEOPLE IN THAT VEHICLE. WHERE IS THE VEHICLE? RIGHT ON THE TOP OF THAT HILL. OH, YEAH. I DON'T LIKE THIS AT ALL. YOU JUST WANT TO, LIKE, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON? YEAH. ALL RIGHT, LET'S CHECK IT OUT. HOLD ON. ARE WE GOOD? THEY'RE STILL NOT MOVING. "UNLAWFUL TO ENTER THIS AREA WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE INSTALLATION COMMANDER." ANYBODY HAVE PERMISSION OF THE INSTALLATION COMMANDER? UH...DO NOT. DO NOT. SO, IT HAS AN ACTUAL NAME -- THE NELLIS BOMBING AND GUNNERY RANGE? THAT'S A BUNCH OF CRUD. OH, YOU DON'T THINK THAT'S IT? NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS. Levy: EVERYONE HAD DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON AREA 51, BUT THE ONE THING EVERYBODY AGREED ON WAS THAT THE SECURITY THERE IS DEADLY SERIOUS. WE KNEW WE HAD TO PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THEIR REGULATIONS. OKAY, THERE IS A ROAD RIGHT HERE AND THERE'S NO SIGN THAT SAYS NO TRESPASSING RIGHT HERE. I WONDER IF WE COULD GO STRAIGHT UP THE HILL. ACTUALLY, WE CAN, AND THAT WOULD GIVE US A VANTAGE POINT TO SEE IF WE CAN SEE ANYTHING. OKAY, WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE. LET'S MAKE SURE, REALLY, WE DON'T SEE. OKAY, WHILE WE'RE WALKING, I'M GONNA MAKE SURE THAT CAR DOESN'T START MOVING TOWARD US. IF IT DOES, WE'RE OUT OF HERE. THERE'S A BUNCH OF SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS. SEE, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE UP THERE. OH, GEEZ. IT'S WEIRD. THEY KIND OF HAVE THE SAME PROFILE AS A CACTUS. OH, YEAH, THIS IS A BETTER VIEW, THOUGH. WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO THAT TRUCK, THOUGH. I'M NOT LIKING THAT. YOU KNOW, THIS PLACE IS INCREDIBLE, BUT LOOK. MEAN, YOU REALLY HAVE TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE HIDING SOMETHING. HERE'S THE MOST FASCINATING FACT ABOUT AREA 51 -- IT WAS BUILT ON TOP OF A SILVER MINE. THAT MEANS THERE'S A WHOLE NETWORK OF UNDERGROUND TUNNELS AND CAVES. THE MOST SENSITIVE AND TOP-SECRET STUFF MAY ACTUALLY BE UNDERGROUND. SO, WE'VE GOT SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS TO THE LEFT, WE HAVE A TRUCK ON THE HILLSIDE IN FRONT OF US WITH TWO MEN IN IT, AND WE HAVE SOME KIND OF INFORMATION INSTALLMENT ATOP THE HIGHEST MOUNTAIN IN THE AREA. BUT JUST BECAUSE THIS IS A GOOD HIDING POINT DOESN'T MEAN THERE ARE ALIEN SPACECRAFT AND BODIES. THEY COULD BE HIDING ANYTHING. NO, NO, NO. THAT CAR IS MOVING. Rolle: THEY'RE COMING THIS WAY, GUYS. YOU WANT TO START MOVING DOWNHILL, GUYS? YES. YES. OKAY. LET'S START. LET'S GET IN THE CAR. LET'S KIND OF GO QUICKLY. I DON'T LIKE THIS AT ALL. HE'S STARING RIGHT AT US. NO. LET'S GO. LET'S GO FASTER. GET THE LINCOLN FIRED UP. [ ENGINE TURNS OVER ] McKinley: HERE THEY COME. HERE THEY COME. Levy: WE HAVE FLASHING LIGHTS. WHAT DO THEY MEAN? OKAY, JUST, I GUESS -- DON'T STOP. DON'T STOP. Rolle: JUST KEEP GOING. WE'VE BEEN SEARCHING FOR PROOF OF EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE, BUT WE'VE LEARNED THE GOVERNMENT MAY HAVE ALREADY FOUND IT. NOW THE QUESTION IS WHAT EXACTLY DO THEY KNOW AND WHY WON'T THEY SHARE IT WITH US? SO, IN ALL OF YOUR TIME UPSTAIRS FLYING AROUND, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ANYTHING THAT YOU COULDN'T EXPLAIN OR DIDN'T UNDERSTAND? UNUSUAL PHENOMENON? NO. I HAVEN'T. BUT I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF VERY GOOD FRIENDS, HIGH-PERFORMANCE FIGHTER PILOTS. ONE OF THEM HAD SEEN A UFO NOT IN THE AIR, BUT ON THE GROUND, AND HE SWEARS TO THIS DAY THAT IT LANDED IN A CLEARING RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE THEY WERE CAMPING ONCE. I BELIEVE WHAT THEY SAY. NOW, DO I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS A UFO? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T THINK HE REPORTED THAT, THOUGH, TO ANYBODY FOR THE OBVIOUS REASONS. WHY WOULDN'T THEY? WHAT DO YOU DO? YOU GO TO YOUR COMMANDING OFFICER OR FLIGHT SERGEANT AND YOU SAY, "YOU KNOW WHAT? WHILE I WAS OUT CAMPING THIS WEEKEND, I SAW A UFO." AND YOU'RE HANDLING NUCLEAR WEAPONS -- YOU'RE GONNA BE TAKEN OFF OF THAT UNTIL SOMEBODY CAN EXPLAIN IT OR FIGURE OUT WHETHER YOU'RE OKAY STILL. RIGHT. AND, TRUST ME, NO AVIATOR WANTS TO BE STANDING OUT, DRAWING ATTENTION. THEY'D RATHER BE OUT FLYING AND DOING WHAT THEY DO. Levy: ALAN, WE'VE BEEN TO ROSWELL. WE'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN THESE SORT OF FAMOUS PICTURES OF FLYING SAUCERS AND THINGS AND DISCS THAT LOOK LIKE UFOs. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THESE IMAGES AND UFOs? WELL, THE AIR FORCE, THEY HAD SOMETHING CALLED PROJECT BLUE BOOK, AND THAT EVERY UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT THAT WAS REPORTED WENT INTO THE AIR FORCE IN THIS PROJECT. PROJECT BLUE BOOK WAS A SECRET AIR FORCE INITIATIVE STARTED IN 1952 TO DETERMINE WHETHER UFOs POSED A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY. BEFORE THEY WERE DONE, THEY INVESTIGATED 12,618 REPORTS. WHEN BLUE BOOK MADE THEIR REPORT PUBLIC, THEY CLAIMED TO DISMISS 97% OF SIGHTINGS. ALTHOUGH IT WAS LATER REPORTED THAT 22% OF THEIR SIGHTINGS COULD NOT BE EXPLAINED. BUT HERE'S THE BEST PART. GUESS WHO'S MIND DID GET CHANGED. THE SCIENTIFIC CONSULTANT ON THE PROJECT, DR. J. ALLEN HYNEK, STARTED PROJECT BLUE BOOK AS A UFO SKEPTIC. BUT DURING HIS RESEARCH, THAT CHANGED. HYNEK ACCUSED HIS MILITARY COUNTERPARTS OF APATHY AND IGNORANCE AS THEY ROUTINELY DISMISSED INEXPLICABLE PHENOMENON AS BIRDS OR BALLOONS. THERE HAS BEEN NO EVIDENCE THAT UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS ARE A THRE TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. AS HE PUT IT, "PROJECT BLUE BOOK "WENT FROM THE INVESTIGATION OF THE UNEXPLAINED TO THE EXPLANATION OF THE UNINVESTIGATED." SO, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE ARE PHENOMENON THAT ARE UNEXPLAINABLE. THERE ARE UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS OUT THERE? YEP, AND THOSE ARE WORTHY OF LOOKING AT AND PURSUING UNTIL WE DO KNOW. BUT THE TRUTH IS THERE STILL ARE SOME UNEXPLAINED OCCURRENCES OF SIGHTINGS OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND. SO, THE GOVERNMENT CLAIMS NO PROOF OF LIFE IN THEIR RECORDS. BUT THOSE, OF COURSE, ARE JUST THE RECORDS THEY TELL US ABOUT. BUDDY, McKINLEY, AND SCOTT ARE TALKING TO A HIGH-RANKING GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL WHO'S DECIDED TO TAKE A RISK, DEFY AN ORDER, AND TELL HIS STORY. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOUR POSITION WAS AND WHAT YOU WERE DOING AT THE TIME THAT YOU GOT THIS INFORMATION. Well, I was the branch manager at the F.A.A. tech center in Atlantic City. We watched the plane come down. The 747 comes down. And then when he first comes on the frequency, he says, "Do you have any traffic for me?" And my controller, he's looking at the scope saying, "I got no traffic up here." So he says, "Negative." And he says, "Well, I got something out here at 11:00, 12:00. "I've got white and yellow strobe lights, this kind of stuff." He's looking at this thinking, "There's no airplane that big." It's like four times the size of an aircraft carrier. He's flying a 747 that has an elevator in it. They have floors. It's like a two-story building flying in the air, and he's looking at something that is a massive, massive target out there. And he's assuming it's an airplane. JOHN, DID ANY PASSENGERS SEE THIS THING? All the crew said the same thing. SO, NOT JUST ONE GUY. IT'S CORROBORATED BY OTHER CREW MEMBERS. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They drew the same pictures and everything, yeah. JOHN CALLAHAN WAS THE GUY THE F.A.A. CALLED WHEN SOMETHING STRANGE HAPPENED IN THE SKY, BUT NO ONE EVER SAW ANYTHING AS STRANGE AS THIS. ACCORDING TO CALLAHAN'S STORY, A 747 WAS APPROACHED BY AN UNIDENTIFIED AIRCRAFT THAT WAS SO BIG THE RADAR PICKED IT UP AS A WEATHER FRONT. HE DESCRIBED THE CRAFT AS SPHERICAL AND GLOWING, BUT THE MOST ASTOUNDING THING WAS THE WAY IT MOVED. THE UFO ZIPPED AROUND SO QUICKLY THAT IT APPEARED MILES IN FRONT OF THE CRAFT ONE MOMENT AND MILES BEHIND IT THE NEXT. THE INCIDENT SO CONCERNED CALLAHAN'S SUPERIORS THAT THEY IMMEDIATELY ALERTED THE WHITE HOUSE AND SUMMONED PRESIDENT REAGAN'S SPECIAL INVESTIGATIVE TEAM. PRESIDENT REAGAN, BY THE WAY, PERSONALLY CLAIMED TO SEE A UFO FROM AN AIRPLANE OVER BAKERSFIELD IN 1974 -- LONG BEFORE HE WAS PRESIDENT. REAGAN SAID IT WAS A BRIGHT, WHITE LIGHT, AND ACCORDING TO "THE GIPPER," "WE FOLLOWED IT TO BAKERSFIELD, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, "TO OUR UTTER AMAZEMENT, IT WENT STRAIGHT UP INTO THE HEAVENS." Well, I came back to headquarters after we seen all this. The admiral heard I was in the building. He calls down and says, "I want you to give me a five-minute thing on what we found out." So, I go up in his office, I give him five minutes. Then he says to one of the aids, "Cancel the rest of my meetings for tonight. We'll reschedule them next week." Then he says to us, "I'm going to go see Reagan. "We're gonna hand this off to the Reagan scientific study team." Then in comes the three guys, scientific study team. They looked like the Einsteins. They got the long hair, gray hair, wasn't combed. They had nice suits on, but they looked like weirdos. And they had three guys with them from the CIA. Then one of the scientists comes out. He says, "This event never happened. "And we were never here. "We're confiscating all this data, and you're all sworn to secrecy." So I said to him, "What do you think it was?" He says, "Oh, it's a UFO," and this is the first time they ever had more than a few minutes of radar data to look at. He says, "Look at them over there. "They're just drooling, waiting to get their hands on all this data." SO, THE LESSON IS TO STOP CALLING WASHINGTON. Rolle: RIGHT. STOP CALLING WASHINGTON WHEN THINGS HAPPEN. There's nobody else to call. Even if you call the newspapers, a lot of the newspapers think you're a quirk anyway because they've been brainwashed that if UFOs existed, the government would know and the government would tell you. They know what's good for you, and they know what you should be thinking. OUR INVESTIGATION INTO EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE HAS LED BUDDY, MAC, AND SCOTT JUST ABOUT EVERYWHERE. BUT BEFORE THEY CAN REACH THEIR CONCLUSIONS, THEY'RE NOW SPEAKING TO A MAN WHO SPENT MUCH OF HIS LIFE IN THE ONE PLACE WE COULDN'T GO. YOU MENTIONED HAVING BEEN IN SPACE SIX TIMES. ARE THE EXPERIENCES DIFFERENT EACH TIME? THEY'RE RICHER BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR. McKinley: SO, WHEN YOU WERE OUT THERE, DID YOU SEE ANY OTHER BEINGS OUT THERE? NOPE. I WANTED TO. YOU WANTED TO. I WISH. OH, YEAH. BUT YOU THINK THERE'S OTHER LIFE OUT THERE, BUT YOU JUST DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE OF THEM VISITING OUR PLANET? EVERY TIME YOU TAKE A TIMED EXPOSURE WITH THE HUBBLE, IT'S 2,000 GALAXIES TIMES 100 BILLION STARS. THAT IS 2,000 TIMES 100 BILLION. SO, WITHIN ONE PICTURE THERE'S 200 TRILLION STARS YOU'RE LOOKING AT WITH ONE PICTURE OF HUBBLE. AND EVERY TIME YOU AIM IT, YOU HAVE ANOTHER 100 TRILLION STARS. SO, YOU'RE JUST SAYING THE PROBABILITY IS -- MASSIVE. IT'S A CERTAINTY. A TRILLION IS A MILLION-MILLION, SO EVEN IF THE CHANCES OF LIFE EXISTING NEAR A STAR ARE ONLY ONE IN A TRILLION, FOR EVERY PICTURE THE HUBBLE TAKES, THERE WOULD STILL BE 200 PLANETS WITH LIFE ON THEM. SO, I MEAN, WHAT'S SO INTERESTING ABOUT EARTH IS THE ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURE, THE AMOUNT OF WATER, HOW CLOSE IT IS TO THE SUN. I MEAN, ALL THE DIALS ARE SET PERFECTLY FOR LIFE. YOU BELIEVE THAT THOSE DIALS ARE SET PERFECTLY SOMEWHERE ELSE. THAT'S A NICE WAY TO PUT IT. YES. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE, IN ONE HUBBLE PICTURE, 100 TRILLION STARS, NOT MANY DIALS HAVE TO BE CORRECT, AND YOU STILL HAVE A TRILLION PLANETS WITH LIFE ON THEM. BUT THAT STUFF OUT THERE IS MASSIVELY ADVANCED IN THE EVOLUTIONARY STRAIN. OTHER LIFE? YEAH, THE LIFE OUT THERE. BUT IT ALSO HAS HAD A CHANCE TO DO A BILLION YEARS OF TECHNOLOGY. REALLY? THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR 12 BILLION YEARS. THE HUBBLE CONCEPT PRETTY MUCH DEFINED THE AGE. YOU THINK THERE'S SOMETHING BEYOND JUST, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN BACTERIA IN A CERTAIN VOLCANIC ASH? OUT THERE? THEY'RE DOING INTERSTELLAR TRAVEL. YOU THINK SO? OF COURSE. IF YOU HAVE AN ADVANCED EVOLUTIONARY STRAIN WHICH HAS BEEN DEVELOPING TECHNOLOGY FOR A BILLION YEARS, STAR TRAVEL IS HAPPENING. SO, IF YOU THINK IN 200 YEARS WE GOT FROM MAYBE A DRILL PRESS OPERATED BY AN OX TO THE INTERNET -- TO iPhone, YEAH. OR ME, BORN AND RAISED -- WHEN I WAS A KID, DIESEL LOCOMOTIVE NOT HERE. IT WAS STEAM LOCOMOTIVE. STEAM LOCOMOTIVE TO BEING AN ASTRONAUT -- STEAM LOCOMOTIVE TO SPACE. ...WHAT COULD ANOTHER STRAIN OF LIFE HAD DONE WITH A BILLION YEARS? WITH A BILLION YEARS. TODAY, THERE'S MORE COMPUTING POWER IN A CELLPHONE THAN THERE WAS ON APOLLO 11, AND THAT BROUGHT MAN TO THE MOON AND BACK. AND THESE ARE ADVANCEMENTS IN TECHNOLOGY THAT EVERY BABY BOOMER CAN VIVIDLY REMEMBER CHANGING IN THEIR LIFETIME. SO, IMAGINE WHAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IN ANOTHER 10, 100, OR 1,000 YEARS. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE ASTRONAUT IS TALKING ABOUT. HE'S TALKING ABOUT A BILLION YEARS FROM NOW WHEN OUR DESCENDANTS LOOK BACK AT US AND OUR TECHNOLOGY THE WAY WE LOOK BACK AT CAVEMEN. Rolle: STORY, IF YOU'RE 100% CERTAIN THAT THERE'S BEEN OTHER LIFE AROUND FOR A BILLION YEARS AND THEY ARE TRAVELING FROM STAR TO STAR, WHY HAVEN'T THEY VISITED HERE? FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE STATISTICS OF -- YES, THERE'S STAR TRAVEL GOING ON, BUT THERE'S A HECK OF A LOT OF PLACES TO GO TO. EVEN THOUGH STAR TRAVEL IS GOING ON, THINGS ARE FAR AWAY. BUT HOW SURE ARE YOU? I'M AS SURE AS I CAN BE, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE EVIDENCE. IT'S STATISTICAL. IT'S THE POWER OF LIFE. SO, WE HAVE 4 MILLION SPECIES HERE. RIGHT. SO, LIFE DID NOT JUST CREATE A HANDFUL OF SPECIES. LIFE HAS GOT THE MUSCLE AND THE SURVIVABILITY TO SURVIVE UNDER A HUGE NUMBER OF DIALS. AND YOU HAVE MASSIVE TIME. PUT THOSE THREE TOGETHER, IT'S EVERYWHERE. IT'S SOMEWHERE ELSE BESIDES HERE. YEAH. BUDDY, MAC, AND SCOTT HAVE DUG DEEPLY INTO ALL THE BEST-KNOWN ALIEN ENCOUNTERS AND FOUND SOME LITTLE-KNOWN INFORMATION. THEY'VE TALKED TO CREDIBLE SOURCES WHO HAVE TOLD THEM TRULY INCREDIBLE STORIES. HERE'S WHAT I KNOW FROM WHAT WE'VE FOUND -- I BELIEVE THAT THE F.A.A., CIA, AIR FORCE IS NOT ALLOWING AN OPEN, TRANSPARENT, SCIENTIFIC INVESTIGATION. I MEAN, THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO CONTROL INFORMATION. NOW, WHETHER THEY'RE COVERING UP PROOF OF ALIEN LIFE -- I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE IT YET. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE TO COVER UP. I THINK THEY'RE SCRAMBLING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON BEFORE ANYBODY ELSE, AND I THINK THEY ARE SCRAMBLING. SEE, I AGREE WITH THAT TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, BUT I THINK THAT THERE HAS BEEN AMPLE EVIDENCE THAT IT IS ALIEN LIFE THAT THE GOVERNMENT'S COVERING UP. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE A VERY CREDIBLE SIGHTING OF WHAT CAN ONLY BE DESCRIBED AS A SPACECRAFT BY A PILOT FOR A JAPANESE AIRLINE. I MEAN, THIS GUY HAS NOTHING TO GAIN AND EVERYTHING TO LOSE BY HAVING THE SIGHTING. WE HAVE CREDIBLE MILITARY SOURCES THAT TELL US THAT THEY WERE TOLD THAT A FLYING SAUCER HAD CRASHED IN ROSWELL, AND THEN THEY WERE TOLD TO CHANGE THE STORY. I MEAN, IF THEY'RE TRYING TO KEEP MILITARY SECRETS FROM US TO KEEP US SAFE, THAT'S A GOOD THING. BUT THERE DOES SEEM TO ME TO BE CREDIBLE EVIDENCE OUT THERE THAT WE FOUND IN THIS INVESTIGATION. DO I THINK THE GOVERNMENT IS COVERING UP THE EXISTENCE OF ALIEN LIFE? I DON'T THINK THEY ARE. I THINK THEY'RE COVERING UP THE EXISTENCE OF UFOs BECAUSE UFOs MEANS OBJECTS THAT WE DON'T YET KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN. THE THING AT ROSWELL -- I COMPLETELY AM WILLING TO ADMIT THAT SOMETHING LANDED AT ROSWELL AND THE GOVERNMENT HURRIED TO CHANGE THE STORY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY STARTED ME HEADING DOWN IN THIS DIRECTION FOR THIS CONCLUSION WAS TALKING TO RICHARD MINGUS. HERE WAS A GUY WHO WAS A SECURITY GUARD AT AREA 51. HE HAD ACCESS TO EVERY SINGLE PLACE ON THAT BASE YOU COULD GO EXCEPT ONE PLACE, ONE HANGAR HE WAS NOT ALLOWED TO GO. HE FINALLY TOOK A LOOK IN THERE, AND HE SAW SOMETHING THAT TO THIS DAY HE CANNOT TALK ABOUT. I DO BELIEVE THAT SOME OTHER KIND OF LIFE EXISTS BEYOND JUST THE LIFE ON OUR PLANET. WE CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE HOW LARGE THE UNIVERSE IS. AND SO, SOMEWHERE, THE DIALS ARE JUST RIGHT FOR SOME KIND OF LIFE TO EXIST. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU GUYS THAT ALIEN LIFE HAS TO EXI. AND I WILL SAY THIS -- I THINK LOTS OF THE THINGS WE'VE HEARD ARE PIPE DREAMS THAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING AND THEY'RE PEOPLE'S IMAGINATIONS AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE A LITTLE CUCKOO, BUT THERE'S JUST BEEN TOO MUCH EVIDENCE THAT I'VE LEARNED ABOUT DURING THIS INVESTIGATION TO MAKE ME THINK THAT IT HASN'T BEEN HERE AT SOME POINT. THAT BRINGS ME BACK TO OUR CONVERSATION WITH STORY MUSGRAVE. WE LOOKED AT HIM POINT-BLANK AND SAID, YOU KNOW, "DID YOU SEE ANYTHING?" AND HE PAUSED, AND HE SAID, "NO, BUT I WANTED TO." WELL, THEN, LET ME JUST ASK YOU POINT-BLANK, DO YOU THINK ALIEN LIFE EXISTS AT ALL ANYWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE? I HAVE SEEN A UFO. YOU'RE KIDDING, RIGHT? YOU DON'T TELL EVERYONE THAT YOU'VE SEEN A UFO FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS. IT MAKES YOU SOUND LIKE A WING NUT. RIGHT. I WAS A YOUNG BOY, 8-YEARS-OLD, TRAVELING WITH MY FAMILY, AND MY FATHER LOOKED UP IN THE SKY FROM THE CAR, PULLED THE CAR OVER IMMEDIATELY. THERE WAS A GIANT, GLOWING, LIKE, OVAL-SHAPED ORB IN THE SKY. IT WAS ILLUMINATED FROM WITHIN. IT LOOKED LIKE IT HAD FIRE AROUND THE EDGES. AND WE PULLED OVER, NUMEROUS CARS PULLED OVER AND EVERYONE STOPPED AND GOT OUT AND POINTED AT THIS THING AND NO ONE KNEW WHAT THE HELL IT WAS. I GOT TO BE HONEST, BUDDY. IF YOU HAD TOLD ME THAT STORY BEFORE WE STARTED THIS INVESTIGATION, I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT MAYBE YOU WERE A LITTLE CRAZY. BUT AFTER EVERYTHING WE'VE LEARNED AND EVERYTHING WE'VE SEEN AND EVERYTHING PEOPLE HAVE TOLD US, THAT'S INCREDIBLE. IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST INCREDIBLE IMAGES THAT I HAVE FROM MY CHILDHOOD. I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE NIGHTMARES ABOUT IT OR ANHING. I HAVE WONDER ABOUT IT. WAS IT OF ANOTHER WORLD? RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW. Meltzer: THE MAJORITY OF STARS IN OUR UNIVERSE ARE MORE THAN 1,000 LIGHT-YEARS AWAY. SO, THAT MEANS IT WOULD TAKE AN ALIEN 1,000 YEARS JUST TO GET HERE. THEY CAN'T GET HERE FASTER BECAUSE PHYSICISTS BELIEVE THAT THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS THE SPEED LIMIT OF THE UNIVERSE, AND THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANYTHING TO MOVE FASTER. BUT PHYSICISTS ALSO BELIEVED THAT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO TRAVEL FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF SOUND UNTIL CHUCK YEAGER PROVED THEM WRONG IN 1947 WHEN HE BROKE THE SOUND BARRIER. PEOPLE THOUGHT IT PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A HUMAN BEING TO RUN A MILE IN UNDER FOUR MINUTES UNTIL ROGER BANNISTER DID IT IN 1954. REMEMBER -- JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING HASN'T HAPPENED YET NEVER MEANS ITS IMPOSSIBLE. I WANT TO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE NOT THE ONLY LIFE OUT THERE. RONALD REAGAN SAYS HE SAW A UFO WITH HIS OWN EYES. SO DID JIMMY CARTER. AND STEPHEN HAWKING, ONE OF THE GREATEST THINKERS OF OUR TIME, THINKS IT'S A MATHEMATICAL IMPOSSIBILITY TO SAY THERE IS NO OTHER LIFE. BUT LISTEN TO WHAT HAWKING SAYS BECAUSE HE ALSO GIVES US A WARNING. HE SAID, "WE ONLY HAVE TO LOOK AT OURSELVES "TO SEE HOW INTELLIGENT LIFE MIGHT DEVELOP INTO SOMETHING THAT WE WOULDN'T WANT TO MEET." HE GOES ON, "IF ALIENS EVER VISIT US, "I THINK THE OUTCOME WOULD BE MUCH AS WHEN "CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS FIRST LANDED IN AMERICA, WHICH DIDN'T TURN OUT VERY WELL FOR THE NATIVE AMERICANS." SO, FOR AS MUCH AS I WANT TO BELIEVE, WE NEED TO ALWAYS BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT WE WISH FOR.
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