♪ [ APPLAUSE ] >> Whoopi: WELCOME BACK. BILL MAHER'S LATEST BOOK IS FITTINGLY TITLED "WHAT THIS COMEDIAN SAID WILL SHOCK YOU" BECAUSE FROM STAND-UP TO "POLITICALLY INCORRECT WITH BILL MAHER" TO "REAL TIME," HE'S BUILT A CAREER ON NOT HOLDING BACK. TAKE A LOOK. >> THE REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN SHOWING UP AT THE TRIAL DRESSED LIKE TRUMP. [ LAUGHTER ] I KNOW. IT'S ALL FUNNY UNTIL IT'S THE LAW. [ LAUGHTER ] J.D. VANCE WAS THERE, VIVEK R RAMA RAMASWAMY, MATT GAETZ. NO WONDER TRUMP FALLS ASLEEP IN THE TRIAL. HE'S COUNTING HIS SHEEP. >> Whoopi: PLEASE WELCOME BILL MAHER. [ APPLAUSE ] ♪ >> THOSE I KNOW AND THOSE I DON'T. NICE TO BE HERE. THANK YOU. HI. >> Joy: YOU KNOW, BILL -- >> THEY LIKE ME HERE. >> Joy: THEY DO, SO FAR. >> Alyssa: JOY LIKES YOU. THAT'S BIG. >> Joy: I DO LIKE HIM. WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER MORE YEARS. WE'RE COMEDIANS. >> DID WE START IN THE CLUBS TOGETHER? >> Joy: YOU WERE L.A. I WAS NEW YORK. >> I WAS NEW YORK. >> Joy: OH, SORRY. [ LAUGHTER ] SO, WAIT -- >> IT WAS ONLY LIKE 15 YEARS AGO BECAUSE WE'RE 40. >> Joy: EXACTLY. YOU HAVE THIS NEW BOOK OUT AND I WATCH YOUR SHOW ALL THE TIME SO I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN -- YOU'RE A COMIC, BUT YOU BASICALLY GO AFTER TRUMP AND BIDEN. YOU KNOW, BOTH OF THEM AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH YOU ABOUT THAT. SO -- >> WELL, NOT EQUALLY. >> Joy: NOT EQUALLY BECAUSE YOU KNOW TRUMP IS MORE DANGEROUS. >> OF COURSE, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WAS MORE OUT FRONT ON THAT DANGER THAN I WAS. I WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW HE WAS NEVER GOING TO GIVE UP POWER LONG AGO WHEN EVERYBODY WAS LAUGHING AT ME AND SAID YOU SMOKE TOO MUCH POT. I SAID I SMOKE JUST THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF POT BECAUSE, HE -- [ LAUGHTER ] YOU KNOW, I WAS USING THE TERM SLOW MOVING COUP BEFORE HE WAS ELECTED THE FIRST TIME. I SAID THIS GUY IS NEVER GOING TO CONCEDE POWER. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO IMAGINE HIM GOING, I LOST. THAT'S JUST NOT IN HIS NATURE. >> Joy: I'M NERVOUS ABOUT SAYING ANYTHING AGAINST BIDEN BECAUSE I FEEL, NOT THAT I HAVE SO MUCH POWER AND YOU HAVE SOME MORE THAN I DO OBVIOUSLY, BUT -- >> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. >> Joy: ARE YOU AFRAID THAT YOU MIGHT INFLUENCE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE FENCE? >> I THINK YOU LOSE ALL CREDIBILITY. I DO. MY BOND WITH MY AUDIENCE HAS ALWAYS BEEN I DON'T PULL A PUNCH. MY BOND WITH MY AUDIENCE IS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE EVERYTHING I SAY BUT YOU KNOW I'M SAYING WHAT I REALLY THINK IS TRUE. >> Joy: RIGHT. >> AND THAT'S -- [ APPLAUSE ] OKAY. AND, LOOK, BIDEN JUST PRESENTS AS OLD. IT'S NOT REALLY FAIR. >> Joy: NO. >> BECAUSE HE'S ALMOST THE SAME AGE -- TRUMP IS ALMOST THE SAME AGE AS HIM BUT TRUMP DOESN'T PRESENT THAT WAY. YOU LOOK AT SOMEBODY RIGHT AWAY, YOU CAN KIND OF JUST SUM THEM UP. WE ARE NOT YOUNG, BUT WE DON'T PRESENT AS OLD? BIDEN DOES. I SAW HIM YESTERDAY MAKING THAT SPEECH. I MEAN, I'M SORRY, HE'S CADAVER-LIKE. >> Joy: BUT HIS BRAIN IS GOOD. >> HE'S ST-- I SAID, HE SHOULD T OUT. HE'S LOST THE FAITH OF PEOPLE. IT'S NOT FAIR. HE'S ACTUALLY DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB BUT I SAID HE'S GOING TO BE RUUD BADER BIDEN IS THE TERM I USED. RUTH BADER GINSBURG STAYED TOO LONG AT THE FAIR. OBAMA HAD HER OVER TO THE WHITE HOUSE LIKE IN 2013 TO HINT, HEY, SPEND MORE TIME WITH THE GRANDKIDS, WOULD THAT NOT BE A GOOD IDEA, RUTH. SHE DIDN'T TAKE THE HINT AND WAS NOT IN GOOD HEALTH AND RUINED HER LEGACY AND GOT THE SUPREME COURT NOW TO BE A PRETTY RIGHT-WING ORGANIZATION. I SAID BIDEN SHOULDN'T DO THAT BUT EGO, HE IS -- HE'S DRACULA. HE HAS CROSSED OCEANS OF TIME TO BE HERE AND HE'S NOT GOING TO GIVE IT UP NOW. >> Sara: YOU LEAD ME TO THE NEXT QUESTION. THE ELECTION IS LESS THAN SIX MONTHS AWAY AND BIDEN HAS DONE GOOD THINGS. HE'S MADE IMPROVEMENTS AND STRIDES ON EMPLOYMENT NUMBER, CLIMATE ACTION, THE DOCK MARKET IS EXPERIENCING HIGHS. NOW, TRUMP IS FACING 88 FELONY CHARGES AND HE TALKS A LOT ABOUT THE SUPREME COURT DECISION. HE BRAGS THAT THAT -- HE'S THE REASON IT WAS TURNED, ROE V. WADE AND HINTS HE WON'T ACCEPT THE RESULTS IF HE DOESN'T WIN ANYWAY, SO WHAT ARE WE MISSING HERE OR WHAT ARE PEOPLE MISSING HERE, BECAUSE THERE'S A DISCONNECT WITH THAT CONTRAST BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT OLD. I'VE BEEN CRITICAL AS WELL BUT THAT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR ME TO TIP THE SCALE THE OTHER WAY AND YET FOR SOME IT IS. >> I THINK SOME PEOPLE RESENT THE QUESTION, LIKE, WHAT DON'T YOU GET? LOOK, I'M NOT GOING TO DEFEND DONALD TRUMP EVER BUT I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT WE SHOULD PUT THE SWASTIKA ON THE CAP BECAUSE I THINK YOU CAN HATE DONALD TRUMP. YOU CAN'T HATE EVERYBODY WHO LIKES HIM. IT'S HALF THE COUNTRY. I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN THAT COUNTRY. I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN THE COUNTRY WHERE I HATE HALF THE COUNTRY. >> Joy: HOW DARE YOU DISAGREE WITH ME. [ APPLAUSE ] >> AND I THINK -- A CONSERVATIVE SAID TO ME WHAT YOU GUYS ON THE LIBERAL SIDE DON'T GET ABOUT DONALD TRUMP, WE DON'T LIKE HIM EITHER, IT'S JUST THAT IN THIS COUNTRY, IT'S BINARY. I MEAN, GENDER MAY NOT BE BINARY BUT POLITICS IS. YOU ONLY GET TWO CHOICES AND THE STUFF THAT THEY ARE AFRAID OF, THEY SEE DONALD TRUMP AS A BULWARK AGAINST. AND THAT STUFF IS A LOT CLOSER TO THE HOME. IT'S, LIKE, MY KID IS COMING HOME FROM SCHOOL AND THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TELL ME IF THEY'RE TRANSITIONING? THE SCHOOL IS GOING TO TAKE THE SIDE OF THE KID OVER THE PARENT? STUFF LIKE THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF CRAZY STUFF ON THE LEFT. THIS BOOK, THERE'S STUFF THAT EACH SIDE IS GOING TO LIKE AND PROBABLY STUFF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE SO MUCH IN THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ANSWER TO THE DONALD TRUMP SITUATION IS, WHAT'S GOING TO GET HIM ELECTED IS THIS WOKE STUFF THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY JUST DON'T GO FOR. >> Sara: ONE THING I BREAK WITH, YOU CAN DISAGREE ON CANDIDATES BUT WHEN ONE TALKS ABOUT LITERALLY UP ENDING THE ENTIRE DEMOCRACY, THAT'S MY HARD OUT. THERE'S NOT AN EQUAL COMPARISON HERE. SO I KNOW YOU SAID SOME PEOPLE RESENT THAT QUESTION BEING ASKED THAT BUT WHEN GIVEN THESE TWO OPTIONS, DO THEY -- ARE THEY NOT AS SCARED OF THE IDEA OR DON'T THINK HE'S GOING TO -- >> DONALD TRUMP BENEFITS FROM PEOPLE NOT TAKING HIM SERIOUSLY, BECAUSE HE'S BOTH STUPID AND CRAZY AND -- [ LAUGHTER ] >> Joy: RIGHT. >> THOSE ARE -- >> Joy: A LETHAL COMBINATION. >> THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS BUT HE HAS SAID EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING. I REMEMBER LIKE AFTER -- WAS IT THE PARKLAND SHOOTING AND HAD A BIG CONCLAVE ABOUT GUNS AND SAID IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, WHY DON'T WE TAKE AWAY THE GUNS FIRST? NOW, CAN YOU IMAGINE ANYTHING MORE ANATHEMA TO THE RIGHT WING THAN SAYING THAT? IT JUST POPPED INTO HIS HEAD. HE SAYS WHATEVER -- HEY, MIKE, LET'S TAKE AWAY THE GUNS FIRST. THEY DON'T CARE. THEY DON'T TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY. IT'S THE GREATEST ADVANTAGE A POLITICIAN COULD HAVE ESPECIALLY ON POLICY. >> Alyssa: HE'S GOOD AT FLOODING THE ZONE. HE SAYS SO MUCH THAT ANY ONE THING HE SAYS GET DROPPED QUICKLY. YOU TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE TRIAL. I KIND OF HAVE THE BELIEF THIS TRIAL IN SOME WAYS MAY BE BENEFITING TRUMP IN THE SENSE HE'S IN A COURTROOM AND NOT OUT SAYING CRAZY STUFF DAY IN AND DAY OUT, IMMIGRANTS POISON THE BLOOD OF THE COUNTRY AND SO ON THEN ON TOP OF IT IF, IN FACT, THERE ENDS UP BEING A HUNG JURY OR ACQUITTAL I THINK THAT FEEDS INTO THE NARRATIVE OF HE'S BUILT, IT'S A WITCH-HUNT AND PROGRESSIVE JUDGES COMING AFTER HIM. HOW DO YOU SEE THIS PLAYING OUT. >> I NEVER THOUGHT THEY SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THE TRIAL OR IF THEY DID IT SHOULD BE A FEDERAL CASE. I TORE MERRICK GARLAND A NEW ONE A FEW WEEKS AGO ON MY SHOW. THEY'VE HAD FOUR YEARS TO DO IT. WHERE WAS IT? WHY ARE WE COMING TO THE END AND THEY'RE ABLE TO RUN OUT THE CLOCK? THIS IS RIDICULOUS. THE DEMOCRATS DO THIS EVERY TIME. IT'S SO INTERESTING, WHENEVER THE REPUBLICANS APPOINT A PROSECUTOR, IT'S A REPUBLICAN. WHENEVER THE DEMOCRATS DO IT, IT'S ALSO A REPUBLICAN. >> Joy: SELF-DESTRUCTIVE. >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS AND MERRICK GARLAND LET IT HAPPEN. THIS TRIAL SHOULD HAVE BEEN A FEDERAL CASE ABOUT VIOLATING ELECTION LAWS, INSTEAD OF A FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS IN A STATE CASE WHICH IS VERY CONVOLUTED AND ALSO TO THE AVERAGE PERSON IT'S A CASE ABOUT SEX. YOU KNOW, HE WAS HAVING SEX WITH A PORN STAR. >> Joy: THEY DON'T CARE. >> Sunny: I THINK IT MAKES IT MORE JUICY. >> Joy: YEAH. >> Alyssa: IN 2006 PEOPLE MADE THEIR PEACE WITH IT IN 2016. THE ACTUAL AFFAIR. >> DONALD TRUMP HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH A PORN STAR WHILE HIS WIFE IS HOME NURSING A BABY IS WHAT I ASSUMED HE WOULD BE DOING. IT DOESN'T SHOCK ME. >> Joy: IT'S ON BRAND. >> IT'S ON BRAND. >> Sunny: IT'S ON BRAND. >> I REMEMBER THE BILL CLINTON TRIAL. >> Joy: ON BRAND ALSO. >> YES, AND I REMEMBER THE REPUBLICANS WHEN THAT WAS GOING ON WERE ALL ABOUT THIS IS THE RULE OF LAW AND OUR HANDS ARE TIED AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO TELL THE CHILDREN. >> Whoopi: BUT, WAIT, WHAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO FORGET IS WHAT YOU'RE GETTING READY TO SAY WHEN WE COME BACK FROM THIS COMMERCIAL. [ APPLAUSE [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] ♪ >> Whoopi: WE ARE BACK WITH BILL MAHER. SUNNY HAS THE FIRST QUESTION. >> Sunny: WELL, I HAD A DIFFERENT QUESTION BUT IT STRUCK ME THAT IN THE FIRST SEGMENT YOU USED THE TERM WOKE AND YOU SAID THAT WOKE IS WHAT WAS SORT OF RUINING EVERYTHING AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE -- >> NO, I DIDN'T SAY RUINING EVERYTHING. I SAID THAT'S WHY TRUMP COULD GET RE-ELECTED. >> Sunny: THE TERM WOKE HAS BEEN IN MY VIEW CO-OPTED BY THE RIGHT AND WEAPONIZED AND BASTARDED SO I WAS SURPRISED TO HEAR YOU THE TERM. HISTORICALLY AS YOU KNOW WOKE IS A WORD USED BY THE BLACK COMMUNITY TO NOTE THAT WE MUST BE AWARE OF SOCIAL INJUSTICES. >> BUT WORDS MY GREAT. >> Sunny: WHY IS THAT A BAD THING? >> IT'S NOT A BAD THING AND ORIGINALLY THAT WAS ACTUALLY A GREAT THING. ALERT TO INJUSTICE. WHO IS NOT FOR THAT BUT WORDS DO MY GREAT. NOW I'LL USE ANY TERM YOU WANT. >> Sunny: OKAY. >> BECAUSE MAYBE THAT IS A WORD THAT IS TRIGGERING SO LET'S NOT USE THAT WORD. WANT TO CALL IT THE SUPER FAR LEFT, BUT DON'T TELL ME THE LEFT. >> Sunny: OR MAYBE THE SUPER FAR RIGHT. >> Alyssa: HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE LEFT. >> BUT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. I THINK WE AGREE ABOUT THE DANGER OF THE SUPER FAR RIGHT AND, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SAY IT ENOUGH. I THINK THEY'RE THE BIGGER THREAT, BUT DON'T TELL ME THAT THE LEFT HASN'T CHANGED? I MEAN, I'M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS THE CONSERVATIVES WHO HATED THE JEWS. OKAY? THAT WAS A JOKE, BUT -- [ LAUGHTER ] >> Alyssa: TOO DARK. >> MAYBE IT IS BUT IT'S TRUE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF I HAD ANY DOUBT THAT I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE CHANGE THAT'S HAPPENED TO THE LEFT, WATCHING PEOPLE PROTEST FOR A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION LIKE HAMAS, THAT STRAIGHTENED ME UP PRETTY QUICK. >> Joy: YEAH. >> Alyssa: I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I THINK -- YOU'RE ALMOST A FREE SPEECH ABSOLUTIST AND BELIEVE TOTALLY IN SAYING WHAT YOU BELIEVE. A LOT WERE DISTURBED TO SEE FRIST FLAGS ON AMERICAN CAMPUSES AND SEEING THIS -- A GENERATION THAT MAY SOME I THINK GENUINELY CARE ABOUT THE PLIGHT OF THE PALESTINIANS, MOST AMERICANS DO BUT SOME WHO SEEM TO BE EMBRACING A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION OVER THE NATION OF ISRAEL. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS MOMENT AND WHAT DO YOU THINK IT'S A RESULT OF AND HOW DO WE FIX IT? >> IT'S ASTOUNDING TO ME THEY CAN'T TELL THE GOOD GUYS FROM THE BAD GUYS. I MEAN, JUST MORALLY. I MEAN, LET ME TELL YOU, IF YOU'RE FOR HAMAS, JUST LIVE IN GAZA FOR A DAY AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT WHILE THE WAR IS ON. I MEAN BEFORE THE WAR. TRUST ME, YOU WOULD GO RUNNING AND SCREAMING AND BEGGING TO LIVE IN TEL AVIV. A PLACE THAT HAS YOUR VALUES. I MEAN, WOMEN HAVE NO -- I MEAN, JUST TO SHOW -- A SHOW WATCHED BY A LOT OF WOMEN. WOMEN HAVE NO RIGHTS IN THIS PLACE AND A LOT OF MAJORITY MUSLIM COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD. I MEAN, THERE'S NO EQUAL RIGHTS AS FAR AS SPEECH, DRESS, OPPORTUNITIES FOR EDUCATION. >> Joy: NOTHING. >> REPRODUCTIVE RIGHT, FREEDOM FROM SEXUAL VIOLENCE, FREEDOM FROM SEXUAL HARASSMENT. >> Alyssa: THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY. >> YOU -- THAT TOO. BUT YOU THROW AROUND THE TERM APARTHEID, THERE IS A GENDER APARTHEID IN A LOT OF THE WORLD WHERE WOMEN ARE SECOND-CLASS CITIZENS, AT BEST. >> Sunny: ARE YOU AT ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THE INNOCENT CIVILIANS THAT HAVE BEEN COLLECTIVELY PUNISHED AND MURDERED LARGELY CHILDREN AND WOMEN AND CONCERNED ABOUT THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT JUST TODAY ISSUED A SUBPOENA FOR BIBI NETANYAHU. >> WELL, THAT'S RIDICULOUS, BUT IT'S A WAR. >> Sunny: WHY? >> BECAUSE IT'S A WAR AND THEY WERE ATTACKED AND THEY'RE DEFENDING THEMSELVES. NOW, THIS IS A WAR. DO YOU THINK HAMAS NEEDS TO BE DESTROYED? THIS IS THE QUESTION. >> Sunny: YES. >> YOU DO. >> Sunny: YES. >> HAMAS NEEDS TO BE DESTROYED BECAUSE THEY ARE A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION WHO SAY OPENLY THAT THEY WANT TO COMMIT GENOCIDE ON THE STATE OF ISRAEL. THAT'S WHAT FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA MEANS AND DO IT OPENLY. THEY'VE ATTACKED ISRAEL FIVE TIMES AND STARTED FIVE WARS SINCE THEY WERE GIVEN THAT LAND BACK. THEY COULD HAVE CHOSEN TO TURN THAT PLACE INTO ANY PLACE THEY WANTED TO AND THEY TOOK A LOT OF MONEY THAT THEY TOOK FROM THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY AND THEY SPENT IT ON BOMBS AND GUNS AND BUILDING TUNNELS. SO IF THEY NEED TO BE DESTROYED, HOW DO WE DO THAT? IT'S A WAR. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT AND YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. I ASSUME -- OF COURSE, BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IN A WAR. HERE'S A WAY TO STOP THAT. STOP ATTACKING ISRAEL. [ APPLAUSE ] >> Joy: AND THE ANNIHILATION OF ISRAEL AND ALL THE JEWS. THEY'RE CALLING FOR THE ANNIHILATION OF THE JEWS SO YOU CAN'T DEFEND THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE VERY EASILY. >> BUT BEFORE WE GO -- >> Whoopi: NO, WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE YET. [ LAUGHTER ] >> WE WERE TALKING IN THE BREAK. JOY IS A WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING AND SHE SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ATTACK HER BECAUSE SHE SAID THE THING ABOUT THE SWASTIKA ON THE CAP. SHE DOES NOT THINK THAT ALL -- AS YOU SAID TO ME IN THE BREAK, YOU DO NOT THINK THAT ALL THE PEOPLE FOR TRUMP ARE NAZIS. >> Joy: NO, I DON'T. I JUST WANT THEM TO PAY ATTENTION TO WORDS LIKE VERMIN AND POISONING THE BLOOD. >> OF COURSE. >> Joy: AND THE THIRD REICH. THAT'S REALLY WHAT I'M ASKING. >> THEY SEE TRUMP AS A COMEDIAN AND CLOWN WHO -- >> Joy: THEY SAW HITLER LIKE THAT. >> RIGHT, OKAY, BUT YOU CAN HATE TRUMP. YOU CAN'T HATE EVERYBODY WHO LIKES HIM. >> Joy: I HAVE SOME IN MY FAMILY. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE NAZIS. >> OKAY, GREAT. I'M GLAD WE GOT THAT -- I DON'T WANT YOU HURT. IN THE SUPERMARKET. >> Whoopi: WHEN WE [ APPLAUSE ] >> Whoopi: WE ARE BACK WITH BILL MAHER SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED WHAT I'VE NOTICED BUT I FIND THAT OFTENTIMES WHEN I'M WATCHING THE NEWS, I'M ONLY GETTING PORTIONS BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS, I WAS LISTENING TO YOU TALK ABOUT THE KIDS THAT HAD THE HAMAS FLAGS. IT REMINDED ME OF WHEN PEOPLE WERE SAYING ANTIFA IS THERE, YOU KNOW, AND DOING IT SO BAD PLAYERS SHOW UP AND MAKE STUFF HAPPEN BUT DO YOU FIND THAT THE VIEW THAT WE'RE BEING SHOWN SEEMS TO BE MEANT TO GUIDE US INTO THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE ONE WAY WHEN, IN FACT, IT MAY BE A MUCH BIGGER CONVERSATION? >> OH, OF COURSE. I MEAN, THE MEDIA IS ALWAYS GOING TO CHASE WHATEVER IS INTERESTING TO WATCH. I MEAN, I USED TO BE ABLE TO WATCH THE NIGHTLY NEWS, FOR EXAMPLE. I CAN'T DO IT. I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, IT SHOULD BE CALLED HERE'S SOME VIDEO WE FOUND THAT'S FUN TO WATCH. THAT'S NOT THE NEWS. YOU KNOW, LIKE ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS ON A PLANE, LIKE, THE PLANE SKIDDED OFF THE RUNWAY. SO WHAT. CALL ME WHEN ANYBODY DIED AND IT'S NOT -- THE DOOR FELL OFF. OKAY. I'M SORRY. >> Whoopi: I UNDERSTAND THE DOOR FALLING OFF BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO BE UP IN THE AIR. OKAY, I'M SORRY. THAT ONE I NEEDED TO KNOW. OKAY. >> YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. >> Whoopi: I DO. >> THEN BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THE LAST SEGMENT, THE BEAR IS IN THE SWIMMING POOL. IT'S JUST NOTHING AND IT'S NARRATIVE OVER TRUTH. YOU KNOW -- I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE TALK ON EITHER SIDE OF IT I ALWAYS THINK THEY'RE LYING, THEY'RE JUST TELLING ME HALF OF IT. >> Whoopi: YEAH. >> AND I NEVER TRUST THEM ANYWHERE UNTIL I CHECK OUT THE OTHER HALF. >> Sara: YEP. >> IT'S TEDIOUS. >> Whoopi: YEAH. >> I JUST WANT ONE PLACE AND, OF COURSE, IT'S MY BOOK AND MY SHOW. [ LAUGHTER ] WHERE YOU CAN GET BOTH. >> Sara: YOU WERE ACTUALLY LEADING INTO WHAT I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT. YOUR NEW BOOK, 20 YEARS OF YOUR EDITORIALS RE-EDITED AND REIMAGINED RIGHT IN TIME FOR FATHER'S DAY. >> YES. >> Sara: WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE AWAY FROM READING IT? >> WELL, I THINK -- SEE, I THINK WE'RE TRIBAL NOW WHICH IS NOT GOOD AND I THINK THERE'S FOUR TRIBES BASICALLY THERE'S OLD SCHOOL LIBERALS WHICH I WOULD MOSTLY COUNT MYSELF AS, OLD SCHOOL SURPLUS CONSERVATIVES. >> Sunny: YOU'VE CHANGED THOUGH. >> Whoopi: WHAT ARE THE OTHER TWO? >> WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT IN THIS BOOK. I DON'T THINK I HAVE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE SAYING IN THE BREAK WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A NEW WORD FOR WOKE, LET'S HAVE A CONTEST BECAUSE THIS IS A WORD THAT'S TRIGGERING, BUT I MEAN THOSE CONCEPTS THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN THEY WERE FIVE YEARS AGO, I MEAN, WE USED TO DO -- WELL, YOU DID IT. I WAS A GUEST ON -- WHAT WAS THE HOMELESS SHOW -- >> Whoopi: COMIC RELIEF. >> REMEMBER THAT? GREAT SHOW. >> Whit: YEAH. >> AND HOMELESS WAS A TERM THAT I THOUGHT WE KIND OF CAME UP WITH BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE CALLING THEM BUMS AND VAGRANTS AND HOBOS. HOMELESS. NO -- >> Sunny: IT'S UNHOUSED NOW. >> PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, LIKE, BUT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING IT ON THE STREET. OKAY. THE LIBERAL VIEW OF THAT WAS FOR COMPASSION SAKE WE'RE THE LIBERALS, WE'RE COMPASSIONATE, LET'S GET THESE PEOPLE OFF THE STREET. THAT'S NOT THE VIEW OF WHATEVER WORD WE COME UP WITH IT THEIR VIEW OF THE HOMELESS THEY'RE AN ENDANGERED SPECIES THAT NEED TO BE PROTECTED IN THEIR NATURAL HABITAT. LIVING THEIR BEST LIFE UNDER A BRIDGE. YOU KNOW, THAT TO ME IS CRAZY. THAT'S THE KIND OF THINGS I HAVEN'T CHANGED ON THAT I STILL THINK WE SHOULD GET THESE PEOPLE OFF THE STREET. THAT'S THE COMPASSION PART. I DIDN'T CHANGE. THEY CHANGED AND THERE'S LOT OF EXAMPLES OF THAT. >> Joy: THERE'S LOTS OF EXAMPLES OF THE MEDIA GIVING ONE SIDE AS SHE SAYS. IT'S THE REASON WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT BIDEN'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS BECAUSE IT'S TOO BORING TO SAY HE FIXED THE INFRASTRUCTURE. HE FIXED THE ECONOMY. >> Whoopi: IT'S NOT SEXY. THEY KNOW THAT YOU-KNOW-WHO IS GOING TO MAKE CHAOS. THEY KNOW IT BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW WHO IS NOT MAKING CHAOS RIGHT HERE, HE'S NOT MAKING CHAOS. >> OKAY. >> Whoopi: OUR THANKS TO BILL MAHER. HIS NEW BOOK, "WHAT THIS COMEDIAN SAID WILL SHOCK YOU" IS OUT NOW, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, Y'ALL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A COPY OF IT? [ CHEERS ] >> Whoopi: WOULD YOU? YES? OKAY, EVERYBODY IS GETTING A COPY OF THE BOOK. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. [ APPLAUSE ] ♪
