[Music] hey well welcome to tonight's gathering together as we consider Bible prophecy tonight and we're encouraging you first of all of you if you wouldn't mind doing this if you would let others know maybe you can text them email them maybe you can somehow communicate to your friends and others inviting them to join us because we were gonna have a good time tonight unscripted live together in the Word of God as we have dedicated this time to questions and Lord willing answers from the Bible we're living in amazing days and in fact in John chapter 14 I find myself going back to this back to this back to this over and over again and I've noticed some years ago that there's a I forget who it is but there's a there's a News contributor on I think it's Fox News the guys choices let not your heart be troubled well jesus said that in john 14 jesus said let not your heart be troubled verse when you believe in God believe also in me in my father's house are many mansions and if it were not so I would have told you I go now to prepare a place for you and if I go to prepare a place for you I will come again and you receive you to myself that where I am there you may be also in that great exhortation as the church at this hour all around the world has certainly entered into a brand-new season of God working I personally believe that with what has happened in these last couple of months regarding this pandemic was like a tripwire it was like a an alarm going off and I think I am NOT a prophet and I'm not saying thus saith the Lord what I am saying is we have come to a global time where people's faith is either rising to the challenge or people are finding out that their faith needs some propping up some strength there are some finding out that their faith was actually based upon the wrong or things Jesus said let not your heart be troubled and so with our time together tonight that's what we're looking forward to do is to take whatever our questions are and or concerns and bring them to the Word of God to the Lord Himself so pray with me if you would and we'll go right into our first caller I'm just so blessed we've got a line of callers already which is fantastic father we pray that you'd bless this evening together and Lord that tonight as brothers and sisters in the Word of God Lord that we'd be edified by our time invested in Lord this is one of those redeeming factors regarding the whole shutdown that out of this shutdown came the opportunity to host this very get-together so we love you God we love your word we look forward to seeing you we hope even tonight if not we will continue by your grace walking with you until we hear our call home so we just give you this time in Jesus name Amen amen so we are going to take our first caller and I think this is Sarah from Virginia is that right Sarah are you there yes sir hi Sarah what's your question this is Jack hey thanks for taking my call thank you um I would like to know how you relate Matthew 24:34 about the generation that does not pass away if you relate it how you relate it to Israel being reversed as a nation the 1948 story in the 1967 yeah right remember the context Sarah let's let's all make note of this everybody it's very good what Sarah is asking the context of Matthew 24 the context of mark 13 and Luke 21 these are all the same events and we must read it in context she's exactly correct by bringing up the rebirth of the nation Israel which is probably one of the absolute greatest announcements that God is working in the last days when it says that this generation will not pass till all these things be fulfilled the speculation is this does that generation by the way the word means a generation of a biblical generation which is tough to nail down everybody because a biblical generation ranges anywhere from 40 years to 70 years it could even be argued to be a hundred years the jury's out on exactly how we interpret that in the short term but we know this that that Greek word actually means this race this race bigger than a 40-year period of time it is an is it a it's a grand statement of that the last days when these things begun begin to be fulfilled this race or this generation or listen I believe specifically this Jewish people will not perish without all these things coming to pass why do I say that because the context of those three chapters correlate to the book of Revelation and I believe that when you look at those three gospel authors it's talking about those who specifically dwell in Jerusalem come down from their homes and flee talking about global events talking about for example Matthew 24 mentions the advent of the Antichrist and the abomination which makes desolation and so I would safely look at it this way it could mean the generation that saw the rebirth of Israel it could mean she mentioned 1967 when Israel took control of Jerusalem again it could mean that but I think it's absolutely safe and conservative to view it that once the Jews are back in the land they will net wood they will not perish out of the land until the Messiah comes and all these things are fulfilled so I hope that helps Sarah listen the next caller is going to be Yolanda Yolanda from Baldwin Park just outside the LA area Yolanda hi this is pastor Jack what's your question alright pastor Jack thank you for taking my call I want to know how the Jewish people are going to find a priest from the Levitical line for the their temple Wow great question how do they find a priest now your question is so great because it's one of the it's one of the the sticklers it's one of the the conundrums to the Jewish people today they want to believe that they can produce a lineage that will prove that you that that they have a Levite or a co ha fight with them to pull this thing off because they've got to have a sanctified group of scholars Pharisees if you would and they've got to have these egg a dedicated high priest from the proper lineage how are they going to prove that and there's various answers some of them believe that there's technology that is going to prove this well what does that mean I can only speculate does that mean some form of DNA tracing is it some genealogical naming which is going to be really hard to do ulanda because in 70 AD all of those records of genealogies which i think is significant they were destroyed when Titus Vespasian invaded Jerusalem and put down the upheaval in 70 AD general Titus destroyed all those records the Jews today do not have those records anymore so how will they prove that they have a real bona fide acceptable priest I honestly don't know but somehow maybe that's part of them believing the endtime lie I don't know but somehow they're going to believe that they got themselves an earthly priest and great question Yolanda that just tells me that you know your Bible and you're keeping tabs on the time so listen our next caller is is Steve and Steve is calling from Boston and what an awesome City he's from Boston so Steve hi this is pastor Jack hi Steve hi dr. Jack hi yep can you hear me yes I can yep so my my question is about Ezekiel 39 I know you and Dawn frequently talk about an equal 30 yep but thirty nine goes into more details about you know the war the burning of the weapons what seems to be some sort of chemical warfare yeah and I would appreciate any insight you have chuck Missler is really the only one I've really heard yeah an analysis on it but I'd appreciate if you have to yes Steve I don't know if I have any more any new information or anything that I can share with you but let's just bring this to to our audience's mind you wisely brought up Ezekiel 38 which is awesome because you're right we do focus on 36 37 and 38 39 is remarkable because what Steve is referring to you guys is the fact that Ezekiel tells us post war post Ezekiel battle how Israel will deal with the bodies of those who are killed listen killed it doesn't seem to tell us that they're killed by Israel's warfare it implies that God is the one who destroys the invading our army armies plural how does he do that Ezekiel tells us that they're their spears or their missiles their projectiles allow me to say it this way their rockets will be launched and it says that when it when the projectile leaves them it's going to come back upon them so does God scramble with their technology does Israel scramble with their time I think it's God that does it and Steve is asking the question about what happens to those people who are dead from this attack these invaders the Bible says in Ezekiel 38 which is remarkable so we're talking about a 2000 basically six hundred two thousand seven hundred year old prophecy that tells us that when these people die when these soldiers die no one's allowed to touch their bodies it has nothing to do with them being unclean to the Jewish mind it even says in Ezekiel 39 that when you see a body mark the body just put a flag there market don't touch it market and it says that Israel will hire men of continual employment Ezekiel 38 to come and remove the bodies and it says and bury them east of the Great Sea and it implies east of the Jordan River that's downwind Israel like California our wind blows off the coast toward the East Israel does the exact same thing the wind comes off the Mediterranean and blows into the Jordanian wilderness and ultimately into Iraq and onward same-same they're buried downwind you're not allowed to touch them only professional barriers are allowed to touch them and on top of it whatever they use in their invasion of Israel they're Ezekiel 39 says that Israel will use the weapons from the invaders for seven years for power for energy for you know some sort of propulsion or illumination or energy purposes it's an incredibly technical chapter what's so remarkable about it is if you go online friends and you can go to the US it's either US Army laboratories or you can just google the disposal of NBC the disposal of NBC the disposal of nuclear biological or chemical weapon tree and what's amazing is that if you're ever involved in an NBC attack and you survive you are not to touch what's left at some point those that are safe enough to touch it only them they are to remove these elements or this or these samples whatever they might be and bury them downwind from your population remarkable so I have no greater insight than that except that now more than ever we have serious capabilities to fulfill that prophecy and I'll leave you with this uh and I'm not gonna elaborate on it maybe somebody else will ask this question but that region is ladened with NBC weaponry most of its buried in the ground it's not just in Damascus but there's other reserves in other places Iraq the US military currently has a possession of that that Saddam Hussein had Iran is notorious for this and there's a lot of speculation that some of it has even made its way into southern Syria where it is concealed that being the case we live in a time now that that prophecy is more close to being fulfilled now than ever before the pieces are there so thanks Steve great question Kelly's calling Kelly's calling from beautiful Santa Rosa and Kelly hi this is pastor Jack how are you I'm good how are you good I'm good great actually thank you awesome so my question is I was I'm a pre-tribulation believer as well but recently as I've been studying revelation more I came across a question or a thing about in Matthew 24:31 where it talks about you know he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet you know and gather together select it refers him back to revelation 3:10 where it says you know because you have kept my word of my perseverance I will also keep you from the hour of trial but I noticed that in Matthew 24:31 it's talking about the day of the Lord when he actually 2nd when he is in a second coming so it just is confusing to me because I always thought that that was referring to the church yeah Kelly first of all you're very very perceptive in you're not you're not really confused Melissa at most many Bible teachers will teach that Matthew 24 again mark 13 and Luke 21 that in there is the rapture the problem with that is they fail to recognize that there are two trumpets that are specifically mentioned in Scripture that actually make their first first appearance with Moses in in Exodus when God gives Moses the instruction by the way if there's any Jewish listeners right now pay close attention to this Moses was instructed to have crafted to spectacular mind you silver trumpets and then the Bible tells us that whenever Israel hears the trumpet blown that they are to gather together and then they will be once they gather they will be given instruction from whatever Moses or for that matter whatever Joshua whoever it was would would pass along the Jews today will ask they'll often ask where's that what's with the second trumpet where is the second trumpet and nobody knows the answer to the second trumpet that's why many many scholars believe I know John Wolverton others as I've mentioned in the past believe that the second trumpet we know that the trumpet is used to gather God's people together and it was blown together Israel together and it's interesting that it speaks about in the book of Revelation that there's a trumpet that's blown and you have the trumpet that's blown in these gospel message this gospel chapters that you're talking about but I believe Kelly that the context demands that it's referring to the Jewish people I do not believe it refers to the church and I'll tell you the reason why the second trumpet can also be referred to as the last trumpet now look there's many last trumpets in fact there's the last trumpet of the trumpets of the judgments found in the book of Revelation so there's multiple last trumpets but remember this book of 1st Corinthians tells us that at the last trumpet this is what's going to take place well the last trumpet from what reference the last trumpet from the first trumpet because Moses made - and you've got the context of the church in the book of Revelation by the way that's what we're gonna be studying this Sunday is the message to the church at Philadelphia which you're referring to in Revelation 3:10 where the trumpet is blown and there's there's a calling upward remember John heard in Revelation 4:1 a trumpet blast and he was now transported into heaven to see the book of Revelation and fold before him Paul talks about the trumpet being blown at first Thessalonians 4:13 it's not the trumpet that dictates the context in its meaning it's the context that dictates the meaning of the trumpet because there's multiple trumpets throughout the Bible the church will hear a trumpet blast we will be gathered to the Lord Jesus Christ Israel will hear a trumpet so to speak that will be announced somehow in spirit will they hear it or it's in their heart to regather them together certainly that but but remember that Kelly that don't confuse the various trumpets and again a good study on this would be the work of dr. Tim LaHaye or excuse me I'm dr. ed Henson or dr. John Wolverine would be a good source for that Larry from Dallas Georgia is calling Larry from Dallas Georgia Larry how are you pretty good how you doing I'm doing good thanks what's your question it is in reference to the temple mount's I'm wondering if pastor Jack has heard of the potential of the the third temple actually the second temple being located in the City of David a couple hundred yards away from the Temple Mount and the western wall and it's so yeah you know what my thoughts are going to be just as good as anybody else's so now now we enter into the realm of speculation so we can all take a deep breath in and relax so what can we know about this there there is Larry and there always has what is known as the northern conjecture and what is known as the southern conjecture and when you talk about the the Wailing Wall in its proximity you need to remember everybody I'm sure most of you know this that the actual Wailing Wall today and I don't mean to I don't mean by any way to upset any of our Jewish friends the reason why the Wailing Wall or the Western Wall is so important to the Jewish community today is not because it's the western wall it's not because it's the Wailing Wall it's because it's the only wall that allows them to get as close to where the original Holy of Holies would have been now having said that it doesn't mean that it's three feet beyond the Wailing Wall I'm not saying that it's a hundred feet from the Wailing Wall I'm not saying if it's north south or east from no they stand there and pray because that's the closest as they can get to the original footprint okay so now if it's north if the temple is going to be built to the north which if anyone looks at the Temple Mount today the North Area is the area that is extremely vacant today you can do this on Google Earth or you can look at it and you'll see the area that's north of the Dome of the rock mosque and it's vacant it's about three and a half four acres completely marbled finish vacant could the temple go there it could certainly fit there according to the book of Exodus absolutely well what about the southern conjecture which would place it much nearer as larious st. to the city of David which is south so if you're looking at me picture this everybody when we talk about Mount Moriah this is what we're looking at this is the entire mount it has a a southerly low topography or altitude and it ascends upward to the high ground and this is all Moriah okay this is Golgotha Moriah is all this Golgotha this is the Temple Mount okay so look if you know here's the Temple Mount today and down here is the southern steps but you're able to walk on today Jesus walked on the southern steps that you know of today in Jerusalem down here's the City of David David lived just outside across the street and you can go there you can go it's all been you can take a tour there it's spectacular it's all there so this is Moriah this is where Abraham offered up Isaac we're on the high ground we're on Moriah where's that right here same place by the way is Calvary same location the high ground of Moriah okay so this region the temple once stood and the temple buildings that were on the Temple Mount if Israel decides to build it on the southern conjecture location then that means the Dome of the rock site is going to be somehow destroyed or removed it's possible but for me I'm thinking it's much more politically correct and the Jews would be fine with this if it was built on the northern conjecture the space is already available you know why I think that's important because Ezekiel in Revelation tells us both that there's going to be a great wall between the area where the Jews worship and the area that is defiled and Gentile area that would make it an unclean area the Dome of the Rusk mosque area to the Jew is an unclean area is it possible that the Antichrist comes on the scene and part of the peace deal that he brokers with them is you take this vacant lot build your temple I'll give you the permit and we'll leave the Muslims over here or some hybrid of what is Islam and we'll just have these two worlds coexist during my wonderful reign as the Antichrist and that will be the pea still you can share the Temple Mount and could that be it's possible because one area will be Jewish one area will be a Gentile pagan and a wall will divide them so it's yet to be seen one thing is certain what layer the question Larry just asked is a very common question today in Israel they're ready to go they're ready to go on this which is amazing Thank You Larry we're talking to Christy right now Christy from North Carolina and hi Christy this is pastor Jack how you doing yeah I'm doing great I am glad sir thank you so much making my call I love you and what you're doing I think it's awesome you're an inspiration to many but my question is and with us being in the last hours of the last days in these times and seasons that we were in it mentioned in Joel 2 and acts 2 about in the last days your daughters will prophesy and I really want this to really go out to the women that are listening as far as where are we to be at in these last days and hours of how we are to speak because I know it takes out of context as far as you're not to speak women aren't to speak and teach and that sort of thing and that's all twisted and with Romans 16 when Paul talks about Phoebe I wish he went more into depth of what she did as far as ministering to the church and what she did as far as ministering to him James great honor you know I want it I want the women to hear what are we to be doing how bold are we to be in these last days that we're in oh man Christi that's such a great question not only Phoebe but remember the remarkable ministry that Priscilla had as she and her husband Aquila they discipled Apollo's remember that and they were great assistants in the ministry to the Apostle Paul into the ministry team she was a tremendous woman of God when you begin to look at some of the others for example you in Romans 16 and in Romans 16 you have I think it's Andronicus and others these are females who ministered to him and they're mentioned there in Scripture we know that when Jesus ministered there was a coalition of women that ministered to the missionary team that Jesus and His disciples as they were so to speak on the road ministry so in this day and age you you're the front end of your question was this regarding the last days in the last hour which John says we're in the last hour first John what are women to be doing I believe that the gifts of the Holy Spirit unless otherwise specified in Scripture the gifts of the Holy Spirit every woman of God needs to find out from the Lord now begin finding out now Lord what's my gift what's my gift now there's areas of scripture where gifts are qualified and God shows us that in various locations Ephesians chapter 5 for example and first Corinthians 12 first Corinthians 14 Romans chapter 12 it's all laid out there but understand this women today for example who have the gift of teaching women's ministry and I can speak for this church women's ministry to the women of the church is one of the greatest ministries we have here at our church and it is so effective and so needed is the Holy Spirit using women ministry leaders remarkably so yes yes to that when you mentioned Joel - let's remember this everybody she mentioned Joel 2 and Acts chapter 2 when Peter is speaking memory speaking by inspiration of the Holy Spirit that when they all thought the crowd thought listen to these crazy Jews these Galileans a bunch of drunks they're all drunk in the morning speaking in all these languages of the world how in the world that's happening witches are really done question because they were galilaeans but they were speaking perfect language and dialect of the known world that was present but they didn't know those languages if you read it carefully it says how is it that we all hear the wonderful works of God in our own language seeing these men are just Galileans it was Galileans which were the country people of Israel speaking perfect Macedonian perfect northern dialects and languages of Africa perfect a Parthian or Mead perfect and it shucked them and Peter said what do you guys all freaking out about this is what was said by the Prophet Joel that in the last days my sons and my daughters now theologically Christie technically if you're teaching this in a Bible course that verse is given to Joel to the Jewish people context demands remember this is the first century church it's Jewish Peter was completely speaking by the Holy Spirit because it was happening as Joel mentioned but then you realize that quick and short order in the book of Acts goes on to tell us that the Jews by and large the leadership says we don't want this gospel we want to go back to the Old Testament economy and the disciples said seeing then that you see yourself worthy unworthy of eternal life we now preach to the Gentiles and then the Gentile world gets the gospel okay having said that we are still in that state that bracket of the last days but just remember this the technical fulfillment is to the Jewish men and women old men maidens young girls young boys of a spirit being poured out and that is going to happen specifically after the church is raptured and Israel and the remnant of Israel gets saved and you're gonna see a mean we're not we're gonna look down from heaven we're gonna see a massive outpouring of the manifestations of the gifts of the Holy Spirit upon the Jewish people that doesn't mean today that we as Gentiles cannot dream dreams and see visions of course we do but the ultimate fulfillment will be upon the nation Israel and the remnant that shall be saved Thank You Christie for that and now we go to Birmingham Alabama Alabama and JD is is a bone doctor Jack yes awesome it is my audio okay yeah it's good I hear you perfectly Oh perfect this is this is such an honor to speak with you this is a cool I love your church I consider you guys like my second church great well brother listen that's awesome and we're grateful because this is an out yet again another indicator of the last days JD because God God has God has this church all over the world and it blows our minds so awesome JD what's your question brother okay yes I have a question about revelation 13 uh-huh and the I'm trying to figure out if it's if it's implied that okay right after the rapture happens you know the Tribulation Period starts and we see in the beginning of the chapter of the you know the Antichrist coming to power and everything and then second part you have the false prophet coming to power I'm wondering if if is the are they going to be wheeling and dealing at the same time in the first half of the tribulation or is the false prophet only going to come on the scene once the abomination of desolation occurs in the three and a half years great question great question the what we're gonna call the Antichrist okay we're gonna call the son of perdition he's referred to as what we call him the Antichrist first John right refers to him as the Antichrist so when the Antichrist comes on the scene he does so remember and you know this JD Daniel 9 is how he wins the world with this peace treaty the world's gonna go nuts because he finally brought peace to the Middle East JD there appears to be I'm not saying he's operating alone but you know guys like that egomaniacs he's gonna be the epitome of a megalomaniac this guy's gonna be oh yeah he's gonna be stoned on himself right right and and so he's probably gonna have a grand entourage no doubt about it but there's there seemingly is no manifestation of miraculous powers being performed by the false prophet for example it doesn't mean he's not there JD we just don't see him doing anything it appears that the first three and a half years the 1260 days based upon the Babylonian calendar was a 360-day year that the first half it's pretty much the Antichrist show as he's wooing Israel he's got that peace treaty now he's coming through he's amazing he's the Daniel tells us that he will deceive the world by peace and prosperity so I believe in those three and a half years he's going to have incredible prosperity in the world and tremendous peace and people are gonna adore him and then yeah once the abomination of desolation is perpetrated there in the temple by the Antichrist from that time on now you enter in - it's not the tribulation period that's seven years now you enter into the last 1,000 1260 years which is known as the Great Tribulation all of it that's when the mark is enforced right that's when it'll actually be enforced it's not enforced in the first half you know it's it's that's debated is it is it implied in the first half we don't know I kind of lean in your direction JD I think when he comes you know I need to be careful with how I frame this because boy I have a picture in my mind right now of what we're going through here in California when a man gets power handed to him by the President of the United States or for that matter by the Constitution states right and you see a guy with power who goes cuckoo on it you know so you're gonna see you're gonna see this Antichrist guy and I do believe that at the midpoint at how about this at last no doubt at the least the mark of the beast will implement it be implemented at the midpoint it could be sooner yeah it could be sooner it could be anytime during that upfront time yeah I think it's absolutely certain at the midpoint on but where where it might be kind of voluntary at first and then all of a sudden hey if you don't take this you know off with your head no I am god yeah yeah I don't know absolutely JD think about it because Satan is a gradualist he's very slick he's very cool he doesn't like to move in big big moments he likes to wiggle and that's how he sneaks into our lives right he drops a little breadcrumbs here and there he's very good at that it may be that the three and a half years he's just absolutely lining up his ducks so to speak for the grand unveiling because when the unveiling takes place we know that from second Thessalonians 2 for example and Matthew 24 mark 13 and Luke 21 that this guy deceives the entire world with the revelation of himself I'm God and the Bible says he's gonna speak against God in heaven he's gonna speak about speak against God's people and he's gonna speak about he's gonna speak against God's place Israel he's gonna condemn Israel he's going to condemn God's people is going to condemn the God of heaven the guy goes nuts and and so there's no doubt about it we can safely say at the at the latest he's going to implement the mark of the beast the numerical cashless system globally by what most people understand to be a prefix a prefix that number 666 is probably going to be a number that's going to be in placed in front of some other number so call it your social security number driver's license number maybe who knows what number but 666 could easily be dropped in front of the rest of your number and that would be by you acknowledging the claims of the Antichrist JD thank you for asking this because paper listen Christians we need to calm down and not be so goofy everybody's freaking out and look I'm no fan of vaccinations I mean there's some that I'm okay with most are terrifying if you study them having said that a lot of people are freaking out today they're already saying Christians you know this is why we get a bad a bad mark I don't mean that I don't mean that literally I'm a bad a bad name not mark a bad name when we say oh my gosh you know the kovat virus vaccination is going to be the mark of the Antichrist we need to stop that because you're not going to be tricked into taking the mark of the beast you need everybody read your Bible you're not gonna be tricked you're not gonna you're not gonna go join the army and get a chip because you're gonna be deployed in a covert mission and then wake up and find out oh my gosh I accepted the Antichrist or you're not gonna get a you're not gonna get a vaccination look let's be honest you're not even get you're not even gonna get an implant it doesn't even matter I can go this far it's gonna people are gonna faint right now with what I'm about to say even if there was an implant on your forehead it doesn't mean it doesn't mean that you have accepted the mark of the beast you must willfully bow and acknowledge him as Lord you have to willfully pledge your allegiance to him so hypothetically a ship system could come and play tomorrow the Antichrist theoretically could could not come on the scene who knows for twenty years from now it's wrong for you to say oh my gosh I got the mark of the beast no you don't just like you accepted Jesus Christ willfully you're gonna have to willfully accept the Antichrist and so we need to calm down because Anthony Fugees not the Antichrist the Antichrist is going to be very handsome and winsome I think and remarkable okay it's not Fuji it's it's not we need to calm down but I also not endorsing all vaccinations I can hear the letters coming in now so JD great question I love your questions you guys are very astute on your Bible so flower from Amarillo Texas flower is calling us from Amarillo Texas and flower which what's your question hi um my question is on John 17 verse 15 D high priestly prayer um if you can go a little bit more into it where it says I do not ask that you take them out of the world but that you keep them from the evil one yeah you know flower that's a prayer you know that's a prayer that I almost wish Jesus I'm joking that Jesus almost didn't pray so why well when you study the meaning of it it's like doggone it and it means this Jesus is saying the high priestly prayer is the prayer of Jesus for not only his disciples in the here and now and and and in the here and now in his time all the way out though to to us even the church now when he says I don't know I just don't pray for these but for others also and I pray that you wouldn't take them out of the world father but that she would keep the minute the word keeping heap in Greek is an awesome word it's exactly how you and I are living today we are kept by the power of God unto salvation this keeping based upon Jesus's priestly prayer can I can i elaborate on it this way father there's a lot of work that these precious ones who believe in me are going to be doing and the salvation work that they will do many will believe all of them father keep them safe and fruitful and faithful all the way through in your sanctifying work all the way through to the end father I don't pray that you take them out of the world I pray that you'd keep them listen through the world it means that God the Holy Spirit who came to us on the day of Pentecost was guaranteed to us by Jesus regarding the promise of the Father the Trinity is in the story in the message of Pentecost and it's the Holy Spirit's job to keep you flower all the way to the end to the either the moment you die or when Christ raptures his church up and you're kept here right now flower I'm being kept right now here to do God's work flower God has a work for you to do and you better find out what it is if you don't know and I need to find out what God wants to do with my life because that is incumbent upon you and I and so it's vitally important do I wish look let's be honest wouldn't have been fantastic if the moment you accept Jesus Christ you're instantly raptured you're just vanish that'd be cool but not for our families it wouldn't be cool for the world around us God wants to use you and I in the world and that's that keeping power so I'm gonna try to pronounce this beautiful name from Miami it's it's Maria Carmen yeah how do I say that name hello yes hi is this mine hi is this Maria Carmen yes Maria Carmen I have never heard that name before that is a great night many people tell me that I bet a combination of Maria and Carmen that's great I am so blessed that I was able to get through I love your church I love Gia everybody so nice pastor Jack everybody's doing such an amazing job they're amazing you know we are blessed with your church hey listen Maria Carmen I'm blessed by this church this staff the board worship ministry pastors front office missionaries it's I you know what I happen to be at the right place at the right time this is an in work and I get to be here it blows my mind so listen real quick what's your questions so we can we can hopefully my question is when the rapture happens with all the children go with Jesus even the unbeliever children I think so we answered this a couple weeks ago somebody had that that similar question I think the even the children of unbelievers go up for this reason the book of Romans tells us that God doesn't hold someone responsible for their sins when there's no knowledge but with the knowledge of the law comes sin certainly Paul the Apostle said that about himself and so how can you hold a three-year-old for example accountable to the law of God when they don't even know what they have violated so I go like this Maria Carmen I I D fault to those wonderful words by Abraham Abraham said when the angel of the Lord appeared to him he said shall not the Lord of all the earth do right and that was a great character assessment by Abraham of the father of God and that is he will do right and so I believe that the even the children of unbelievers are gonna go up now I got to tell you Maria Carmen there's there's Calvinistic friends of mine who'll tell me nope those kids God knows those kids don't go and they it's too bad for them um I just disagree with that you know but I think they go up Carmen Maria Carmen I think they go up it it's to me it's consistent with the nature of our God I think that's I think that fits so that's a great question by the way very important question Carol from Pomona Carol how are you yes I'm good how are you I'm good thanks for calling what's your question let me fix my phone real quick here I turned it down hi yes my question was why is America not mentioned anywhere in the Bible and the Old Testament or the New Testament and not even in Revelation I don't know I mean seriously isn't it weird it's a stranger did I mean I can give you - not mention China's not mentioned by name but China could be part of what is referred to in the book of Revelation as the kings of the east it's possible it's possible but certainly certainly the regions of Persia in or in India regions of the Pakistan that's certainly kings of the east could it mean Russia I mean I mean China it's possible but here's what's amazing Carol and I'm gonna be as fast as I can on this is the fact that not only to your question profound that we rarely think about but we can't even find the birth of America in the Bible and you might say well who cares well here's the only reason why I care America has been the greatest haven of Christianity in the history of mankind America was founded upon judeo-christian worldview values from the Pilgrim Fathers themselves this is not a statement of speculation it is a literal Library of Congress fact that the founding documents of our nation beginning with not only the Magna Carta but beginning with our birth certificate in some ways and that is the Mayflower Compact before Bradford and the pilgrims disembarked there in Plymouth the whole thing was to the glory of God the propagation of the gospel no country on earth has ever seen a Christian move like America so why is it in the Bible I don't know what nation on the face of the earth became as it were a big brother to Israel in its Diaspora helping Israel nurturing the dispersion of Israel and being not only aid incubator for the Jew before its homeland was reborn but the American president himself is the one who stood and led the nations of the world to declare Israel its own state its own nation again and to this hour the United States is the greatest defender in provider for the nation of Israel how could we possibly escape the chapters of the Bible and I have no answer and if anybody thinks they do they don't the closest thing I could Carol point you to I commend to all of us is the reading of the book the great book is the light and the glory by David Emanuel and Peter Marshall you've got to read that book it's the closest answer Carol you can get to what's up with God in America and time itself but you're not going to find America in the Bible there's just no way there's only speculation and it doesn't answer anything so great question um this is Chris from Minnesota Chris from Minnesota how are you doing how are you hey Chris are you calling from a cell phone I am okay okay now we can hear you there's a little bit of static there Chris okay you in before the wrap a question in regards to the tent rides me and about them all having the oil but not enough of it what is it says in verse 1 the kingdom of heaven will be like and rising and where does the Holy Spirit kind of fit in if some Sunstone is a key for live action is it during the tribulation for the Jews and that chapter is talking about well great question okay so that's a that's it's brilliant I don't you could all hear her but the the latter end of her question actually was a tip-off in am blown away that that Chris would say this regarding the the parable now remember the Bible says it's a parable which immediately puts it in a a context of interpretation what do you mean Jack parables are designed to cast alongside truth to open up your eyes to understand the point the parable is not the point as much as the parable opening your eyes to the point meaning you can never push a parable too far they begin to break down all of them they are a graphic illustration regarding a point so her question was regarding the ten virgins and the oil and five maintained their oil and five didn't was this well some say it's the church and it's proof that you can lose your salvation because they're locked out of the wedding feast and they they're not allowed to participate and it's really bad news okay I I think that's a stretch it's kind of kind of tough to back that up but okay some say that these are not true believers the five and it's the separation from the false and the true and the fact that proves it is the oil that the oil is the symbol of the holy spirit and those who are true believers will maintain and persevere and maintain the level as it were of their relationship with with God through the Holy Spirit and they it's possible and those that are not are are false there they're not true they they're just of the story that's possible there's another view and I hold to this view I'm not saying it's right I just I just holded this view overriding understanding from old testament to new the oil it's the symbol of the holy spirit we know that Bible says so regarding the virgins what do we know about them listen carefully we know that they're that they believe they have some form of belief jesus warned us that in the last days there are going to be those who believe for a while but when hardship difficulty persecution comes they give up they were never born again they believed he didn't say they had faith he said they believed this is important because until your belief takes you to faith you're only believing by the way a lot of to a lot of people today in the Christian Church in America or the world they believe that they believe they believe that they believe that they're Christians instead of believing and having faith in Christ big difference so let me get to the point and then we'll move on for times sake I personally believe that the scripture is teaching that there's 10 that are invited to a wedding if if it's the church why does the church need an invitation to the wedding that the church the bride is not invited to the wedding her friends are the bride is the wedding I personally believe that Jesus is talking about the fact that when Christ returns to earth revelation 19 he returns with the bride doesn't he the church it says so revelation 19 he comes back to Israel doesn't he Mount of Olives establishes his kingdom I believe that he's referring to those that are claiming to believe as Jew Masaya and those that actually do believe in jesus as messiah because the groom comes with the bride i know that the documentary didn't separate this clearly as or didn't even intend to it's okay that what i'm saying where you've got the groom who is off preparing a place and that that awesome film by Brett Miller jr. if you guys have not seen it you must see it it was it was going to be released just the week before the covet virus shut everything down in theaters across America it's called before the wrath before the wrath you can look at the trailer on YouTube and the so the groom goes away to prepare a place and and the bride is getting ready I would place it this way the groom goes away the bride's getting ready she is carried away in the fly away it's called in Galilee and wedding she's carried up over the shoulders and carried to the bridegroom's place and then he comes for the celebration with her for their life and I'm think I think that the 10 is actually revealing the believers on earth when Christ comes back with his church did they maintain their relationship with God specifically God the Holy Spirit it's something to think about but thank you for bringing up and I again recommend all of you to go to that documentary Brett Miller jr. world renowned filmmaker this guy is is just hitting homeruns and he's got more to come so thank you Chris Betty from Louisiana Betty how are you can i mastica hi Betty okay hi god bless you we appreciate everything you do we love you you so wonderful thank you for doing this I have a quick question um me and my friend were talking and she seems to think you can be tricked into taking the mark of the beast like if you they come up with a vaccine it put a microchip in the vaccine and then they trick you into take in it and then all of a sudden you have the mark of the beast can that happen no no I don't I don't believe so and here's the reason why when you read about the mark of the beast in the book of Revelation specifically you've got to first of all realize that people who are receiving the mark according to 2nd Thessalonians 2 they believe the lie they are the one they they believe the lie of the Antichrist so number two is the fact that the Bible says these are all condemned they're the reason why they received the mark Betty is that they're already condemned according to God this is important so they're not tricked they are not desiring Jesus they don't want Jesus they don't want anything to do with the 144,000 Jewish evangelists preaching Jesus they're not interested in the tribulation Saints preaching Jesus they have loyalties to the Antichrist and the Bible tells us that this group of people that receive the mark of the beast they they're not only loyal to him but they they celebrate for example all around the world it says that they're going to celebrate the death of the two witnesses that God sends to the earth to preach and to condemn the actions of this godless system the Bible says that when those two prophets die and lay in the streets of Jerusalem for three days it says that the Olsson gives to each other celebrating the death of these losing loser God sent prophets they're so devoted to the Antichrist I do not believe that you can be deceived and I mean I mean I don't believe that you'll be tricked into that and and be somehow duped oh no I can't believe I I took the mark no listen you're gonna want the mark those people will want it they're gonna love him they're gonna think he's the best thing since you know avocados that I love I'm sorry said that just avocados I love them then they didn't he's the best he's the greatest I don't think you're gonna be duped I don't think it's gonna come by some little slick vaccine I think it's gonna come economically it says there no one's gonna be able to buy or sell without the mark or the number of his name and so people are gonna get into lying they're gonna line up they're gonna say man give it to me this is awesome I did he's the best guy he Daniel says he's gonna deceive the world with peace and prosperity people are gonna get in line they're gonna love them and so I think you can take a big breath and relax you're not going to be tricked and into taking the mark it's just I just don't think that's even possible I think Satan is only going to be happy with those who say hail Satan you know and go with them willingly so my opinion Jenni Jenni is calling from British Columbia Canada so Jenni how are you is it Jenner gurnius Jeanie isn't it it's Jeanie Jeanie hi thank you so much for taking my call pastor Jack my question is out of second Thessalonians and the question is is the restrainer that will be removed which I believe is the Holy Spirit and if it's going to be removed during I guess the rapture at that time and the people that are left so the Holy Spirit's no longer here on earth how will people come to know the Lord yep that's a great question if you look real carefully there in 2nd Thessalonians 2 it's announcing that that he he who hinders will do so until he is actually it's taken out of the way then shall the wicked one be revealed whom the Lord will consume with the brightness of his coming and with the breath of his mouth this is important word genie very important word the Holy Spirit doesn't go anywhere at all number one God cannot go anywhere he's everywhere one of the attributes of the omniscience of God is the omnipresence of God and the omnipotence of God the Omni descriptions of God all-powerful all-knowing all present God of the Bible the Holy Spirit will not go anywhere he will hinder until he has taken out of the way he simply I in fact I'm sorry for this very week especially well no you guys love football in Canada don't you yes you do so GD think about this think about a line of a of a football I'm not talking about European football I'm talking about North American football not soccer football and you've got these 300-pound men massive guys holding back the defense defense from getting the quarterback that's what the Holy Spirit's doing right now with the church it's not the church holding back evil it's the Holy Spirit in the church holding back evil and he's holding and he's holding is holding then he's gonna step aside imagine that big defender on that offensive line throwing his arms up and turning sideways and the defensive player just rushes through ok that's what the Holy Spirit's gonna do he doesn't go anywhere he just steps aside and evil is unleashed the Antichrist cannot be revealed until the Holy Spirit steps aside and I think it's very clear from Scripture the Holy Spirit will not step aside until two things are happening number one Israel has to be a nation again Israel's got to be in our own land number two the church will have to exist at the same time Israel exists for this to happen the church has never existed in tandem with Israel in the history of man until May 14 1948 and it's only strengthened 1967 1973 and so on Israel when the church exists now simultaneously telling us that we're the last hour when the church is caught up to heaven it makes perfect sense that then the Antichrist is revealed unto the world scene because the Holy Spirit steps aside who then pours out his Holy Spirit Joel chapter 2 someone called earlier today about this and He pours out his Holy Spirit on the believers of Israel Jews who then in turn with the hundred and forty four thousand as well begin to preach the gospel to the world John says so many people get saved he can't even count them no but nobody could and all of those believers came out of the tribulation period which makes them tribulation Saints as we refer to them the church is nowhere involved in that the Holy Spirit is always present and that's how they're gonna get saved they're gonna get saved because he now is done with the church and He pours out the spirit of himself of course upon the believing remnant of Israel and then ultimately the believers throughout the world and then the Second Coming will take place for Christ returns to the earth in Revelation 19 to establish his kingdom so great question where we're talking to Karl from North Hollywood Karl from North Hollywood Karl how are you very good great what's your question here me yeah I can hear you good my question is about the revelation 12:14 this is a information I've heard from people talking about America being in the Bible and times and that's but the woman was given two wings of a great eagle to fly from the presence of the serpent to her place in wilderness where she was nervous for a time and our main bird for you know America is of course the eagle so is that as is that too much of a jump to have that a reference for America in the end time yeah you know what Karl not only is it too far of a jump but one of the great rules of Bible interpretation is is not only expositional constancy in Bible interpretation but the rule of first mention when something is mentioned then you want to apply that rule all the way through Scripture by the way this is how you keep from becoming a cult if you apply the consistency of Scripture in other words let scripture interpret scripture then you'll never fall into error okay it's very important now the Eagle when you talk about the eagle of Revelation 12 you're talking about that is actually describing not America it's actually describing Israel as a nation that's a very key scripture in revelation 12 it's very Jewish it's very very Jewish it's not international it's national Anjou Jews the nation of Israel God dealing with the nation and it even tells you that then that the nation brings forth a son brings forth the child and it's caught up to heaven the Scriptures teach that the Messiah came from the Commonwealth of Israel Israel Israel was tapped by God to be the custodians of the Old Testament Israel was supposed to be the great evangelist of the world Israel was supposed to be the great great giver for example Israel we have scripture today because Israel kept the word when the scripture says this the child was caught up the woman brings forth a child what's consistent in scripture from Genesis all the way through is the fact that the must the Messiah is going to come from a Jewish woman the Old Testaments clear on this Isaiah 7 Isaiah 9 we even noticed the town not City we know the town he wasn't good according to the prophets Karl he was not going to be born in the city he had to be born in a town and we know that town before it ever hit the headline news of the Jerusalem Post 2,000 years ago Micah tells us in Micah 5:2 that it had to be Bethlehem a little town the must its notes it's known it's no secret that the Messiah had to come from Israel and there's very much the very specific prophecies about that has nothing to do with America it has nothing to do with anything other than the Jew Israel Jesus being the Messiah and him being caught up and noticed in the tribulation period after the first three and a half years okay seven years the first three and a half is over right in the middle go read Matthew 24 because you're gonna read about Israel coming down from their rooftops you're gonna hear Jesus say if you live in Judea run and pray that your escapes not on the Sabbath is it amazing the same application to Revelation 12 is what you would apply to Matthew 24 this is Jewish in context and it doesn't deal with the church it's certainly not dealing with America sidenote Carl did you know what the did you know how thank God did you know that we got an American Eagle and like the last minute as our national emblem we had a two other previous runners-up and we almost didn't get the Eagle one was this is so cool in fact there are some museums there are some artifacts in American America's antiquity in our founding that they have this look hard for it the original seal for the United States of America that was put forth was going to be Joshua and Caleb carrying on their shoulders a huge cluster of grapes that's what that's what America's first original seal was going to be and then that was not approved and Ben Franklin Ben Franklin wanted turkeys he wounded turkeys I love that guy I've read a lot of Ben Franklin I feel like I know I read his mail I'm so glad he didn't get his wish on that one he wanted turkeys because turkeys according to Franklin they they were the sustenance of the Pilgrim Fathers and that's how they survive so we need to have turkeys nope we got the Eagle thank God because I don't care what you think about an American Eagle that thing looks like it could rip your face off or take care of you and comfort you what it goes one way or the other that American Eagle is a pretty terrifying character to take a look at so pretty amazing great question Carl ken from Chino hi Ken how are you doing I pastor Jack how are you doing I'm doing I'm doing good thank you ken what's your question it comes out of revelation 11 3 about the two witnesses yeah um I've heard it said before that the witnesses will be Elijah and Moses but Moses had died why wouldn't it be Enoch and Elijah or do we know who they are great well we have a speculation exactly we can only speculate but we can have some fun with this for sure how why how is it that we can have some fun with this well first of all if you want to be strict it's appointed unto every man once to die and then comes the judgment that is absolutely a general truth no doubt about it right we can all agree on that well we have some exceptions so for exception we have Enoch as you mentioned Enoch never died so does that verse apply to him does Enoch have to die and so he must be a candidate for the two witnesses in revelation 11 well let's put he knock over here who else didn't die Elijah didn't die so if it's appointed unto Him every man wants to die then Elijah let's put him in the running so we got two strong contenders we've got Elijah and we've got Enoch and that really is a strong argument and okay I get that um but what about Moses it's interesting ken if we're going to speculate with a little bit of sanctified speculation isn't it amazing on the Mount of Transfiguration Jesus was there praying Peter James and John were nearby and while Jesus was praying his countenance was transformed his hair became as white as wool than his face as bright as the Sun and his apparel was glistening he was transfigured in this grand illumination and while Peter James and John are looking Moses and Elijah appear and they speak to Jesus regarding his coming death and glorification or death and resurrection Moses and Elijah not Enoch Elijah according to the Bible old and new Testament must return before the second coming of Christ Elijah I think is a hundred percent shoe-in to being one of those prophets because remember John the Baptist showed up John the Baptist was not Elijah Jesus said something really really amazing they asked him Jesus John's asking about you and others are asking about you in general are you the one or do we wait for another and the question was brought up regarding doesn't Elijah come first jesus said something that is absolutely profound jesus said if you can receive this john has come in the spirit of Elijah that's a fascinating statement which theologically answers the question if Jesus was the Messiah he's supposed to establish his kingdom then why did he get himself killed and the whole thing flop and it didn't flop my friend Jesus gave you a huge clue John the Baptist has come in the spirit of Elijah and Jesus said surely Elijah must come so that's a fantastic answer oh I believe Elijah is coming again in the second prior to the second coming I believe he's one of those witnesses I speculate now and I believe that Moses is the other one and I only have this answer to give you if you're a Jew there's two figures in all of your history that are the two prevailing prompt prominent outside of Abraham himself it's Moses and Elijah Moses is the law Elijah is the prophets and Moses and Elijah appeared on the Mount of Transfiguration as I said and I think it's significant that when Moses died do you remember what happened Ken when Moses died the Bible tells us that God when Moses died God buried him where nobody knows where he's buried but the Bible also tells us I think it's Jude tells us that when Moses died Satan and Michael fought over the body of Moses that's freaky why would Satan what Moses his body that is really weird I don't know the answer to that could it be somehow that if Satan and his mind anyway thought that he could somehow captivate the body of Moses his deceased body could he animate Moses I don't know could he pull some deception off and speak an eleventh commandment of the children of Israel I don't know one thing for sure God took Moses his body and God buried Moses and nobody knows where Moses is buried and I think even angels don't know but we do know that right after Moses died the Bible says that Michael and Satan fought for his body I used that as a speculative speculative argument for it maybe Moses and I think most certainly Elijah so anyway Phyllis from Ontario Canada I love these Canadian calls this is awesome so Phyllis how you hi I am a little nervous here I'll tell you why I've just loud because last year I saw you at the waiting to soon return and in Toronto yes and and you prayed with me and my husband about my grandson Jackson he was a speech impediment oh my god and about him becoming an evangelizer I remember this okay a week later a week late exactly to the day he asked a four year old little girl do you know Jesus isn't that wild yep it is wild I just thought I would let you know now he hit my daughter his mother is she's a believer but she's not a believe do you know what I mean she's not really fully committed so I need prayer for her but here's my question okay yes I'm a nurse that goes home to home and but can I tell people regarding the covert vaccine in the end times is this a precursor to the same rapture and coming of the AC which could be alive and well well let me tell you in fact can I just can I encourage you and everyone listening right now I just got a copy of a book by dr. mark hitchcock and it's in another room yeah that's fine that's fine but dr. mark hitchcock just wrote a book very very recently within the matter of the last couple weeks regarding the corona virus and where does it fall into if at all the end time scenario we I can honestly say Phyllis at this time there is no hard core fulfillment of Bible prophecy regarding the corona virus however there is a profound a wake-up call that jesus warned us that in the last days there will be and increasing everything he said in Matthew 24 is based upon things increasing meaning Jesus said there's going to be volcanoes they're going to increase there's going to be earthquakes they'll be increasing there's going to be wars and rumors of wars that's going to increase there's going to be famine it's going to increase there's going to be pestilence incurable diseases it's going to increase so does covet fall under the category of end times pestilence increasing absolutely yes is it the judgment of God good pastors a good Bible teachers some will say absolutely because all things that are destructive are a form of judgment maybe maybe not I don't know about that but some pastors say it's absolutely a form of judgment maybe I don't know its life look we live in a fallen world it's a this is a horrible world that's be honest isn't that what God wanted I think when the judgment of God Phyllis begins to come you won't guess you won't have to guess I think you're gonna know and so is kovat a wake-up call absolutely there's no doubt about it never in the before in the history of the world has the entire world at the same time gone into hiding in the cities and towns and villages of the world went silent as it were so this is definitely at the least an endtime wake-up call I think things I look can I speculate it's just us right nobody else assists us here right now let me just say something and it's it's just the sajak I'm probably totally wrong but if you were to tell me from this time on things are gonna get really wild I believe you I think things are gonna get really wild don't think we're through by the way we're not even halfway done with the coronavirus effect that's what I'm calling it the corona effect it's the biggest thing is now the disease the biggest thing is what we're now starting to experience globally the next pandemic the nut you got it listen I don't mean to upset anybody people but the numbers regarding the death rate of corona it's not so significant there's been much were this much honestly there's there's more there's flus out there that are killing people in greater numbers than the corona virus it's just very weird how this all came about it's very virile it's very powerful but the lethality of it is I think 0.03 percent and that numbers constantly going down the numbers not going up because the more we test people that are asymptomatic that number of deceased or sick goes down but what we are finding out is that there's a vast majority of people who have already had it and they're completely fine which is spectacular in the state I'm in because California was the first state to receive wuhan flights in San Francisco and Los Angeles and many at Stanford University and other places including it's either Johns Hopkins or Northwestern University have stated that California was probably the epicenter of the United States of the entrance of the virus because by the time we woke up to it and started testing people California had already experienced unbeknown to us our peak our curve because when we got on earth when we got on the curve to start taking covet testing and patients to discover it we were already descending California never went like this we went like this so the science said we went through our peak somewhere November December mid-january and we were heading down which is significant because that supports the science that you are now hearing about experts now are saying the worst thing you can do is stay in out of fresh air and out of sunlight because we now know from New York by sequestering everybody specifically New York City but New York that very incident rate and death rate was far greater than anybody else and of people one third of the deceased in New York were read what's the word cut not I don't not convalescent homes but assisted living homes the elderly and that's tragic areas areas where they were very mildly affected on living here right now California forty million people we have 2,000 deaths did you know that California's death rate for the flu season as of right now in this time of May is lower than normal it's lower than last year's no one's talking about that are they no insane that pretty amazing stuff I can't believe we have okay we're gonna we're gonna take Wanda's call and two more I think one or two more after Wanda she's from Virginia and we'll take a few more by Wanda what's your question hi Jack I'd like to talk to you I know you believe in the pre-trib rapture and that's how I was raised as well but as I got older I started reading it and looking into it a little differently and looking at the like mid-trib and in this world that we struck for persecution and tribulation and when I think back about how terrible the tribulations was for the Christians in the past and how the persecuting them today you know why are we going to be any different come and let me answer your question this way and let me be very very transparent with you I was born again at a church that was very what's called premillennial and this is what you need to discover for for yourself Wanda I didn't say pre-tribulation 'el I said premillennial so watch this there's what's called a millennial there's a post-millennial and there's premillennial Wanda you fall into one not both not two you have to fall into one of those categories because each of those categories are the foundations of denominations now remember denominations are created by people not God okay remember that for example Calvary Chapel it's so it's supposed to be a non denomination but it's it functions like a denomination but it's invented by people if you're a Lutheran or a Methodist or a Baptist those denominations are man-made okay but you land in your denomination and every one of your denominations everybody is based on and a pre or post millennial of you and that is based upon your founding scholars of who founded your movement or your denomination so I was saved at a premillennial pre-tribulation 'el futurist interpretation of Bible prophecy in other words I believe that Jesus will come back and set up his thousand-year kingdom before eternity begins at the end of the thousand years you can read Revelation chapter 21 and 22 and you'll see how that fits and there's other views so here's the deal then I started reading books by other scholars and other denominations and other authors and I for about four or five years gravitated toward the post tribulation rapture view I I don't mean to say this to be abrupt Wanda but when I studied it I came to the conclusion that the mid-tribulation view was a place where people who were confused about both ends will land it the mid-trib was a place where I don't fit over there I don't fit over there then I'm gonna land in the middle but if you understand if you study more the meaning of the seven years this is what I want to commend you to do Wanda and I'm gonna give you I'm going to tell you about a book that I want you to read that will blow your mind the seven great the seven-year tribulation period there is a particular player in the seven-year tribulation period that's all about them it's all about them it's all it's it's the reason why it's seven years and even the even the description and the verbage used in the book of Revelation fits perfect with who they are do you kind of know who I'm alluding to it's the Jewish it's the Jewish people according to the Book of Daniel the seven-year tribulation period is all about God now working again with the Jewish people because God said I've got seven years I'm gonna work with you a special work and during those seven years at the end of it by the way during those seven years in the middle this is what's going to happen there's going to be a covenant for seven years in the half of the seven years the covenant will be broken my people will be terribly terribly persecuted the Jewish people but at the end one who will come like a rock out of heaven never being cut by human hands will hit that last day's government in its feet and destroy the entire thing and from that rock will grow the kingdom that will last forever and ever that rock is none other than Jesus Christ the image that he hits is in the feet it says Daniel chapter 9 gen Daniel 2 and on and Daniel and it's the last governing Empire of the last days here's what's important it's all about the Jewish people that's why in Matthew 24 Jesus is talking to the Jews that you better you better hope when the Antichrist unveils himself you better hope you're not on your housetop because you better come down and run you better hope it's not on the Sabbath day you better hope that you don't live you better hope you don't run out of Jerusalem when it's snowy he talks about snow in Jerusalem why cuz it snows in Jerusalem it's very Jewish centric okay so keep that in mind the church is Gentile with a little sprinkling of jewel right the church Israel Israel's Jewish the church for 2,000 years started Jewish and Gentile because Jesus marries a Gentile bride just like Boaz married Ruth she was a Gentile Boaz was a Jew it's very beautiful but listen here's the punchline the church has to be out of here before God initiates the 7 years why because it's all about Israel and you have to fulfill Wanda John 14 1 2 & 3 you've got to be able to do that and what's beautiful is that those 7 years is the time known as and I'm quoting now from the Bible the time of Jacob's trouble Jacob has another name do you know his name Jacob goes by Israel Israel in it yeah so so here's what's cool God the Father says he's married to Israel the Bible says Jesus is engaged to the church he's coming back to get us and you want to read this book it's awesome for everyone to read it's called ok yep it's called what is it called it's by dr. it's it's by dr. John wove read and it's called the rapture question the rapture question and here's what's fantastic he argues every view of the rapture remarkably so if you want to read the mid-tribulation view read this book he is going to give you incredible arguments for the mid-tribulation view and then he's going to show you the weak points he's gonna argue tremendous arguments for the post tribulation view and then he's going to give you the weak points and then he's gonna argue pre-tribulation view and he's going to he's going to give you the weak points and then it's gonna come to a conclusion and wanted to blow your mind you need to read that book it will actually get you very excited and then one final word persecution must happen and it's happened since the day Jesus Christ rose again from the dead and the church was born in the day of Pentecost we will always be persecuted we are being persecuted and every year there's a increase and Christian death every year what we want to be careful in the West is that we live in a bubble I think that bubble is being popped and persecution is coming to the Western Church I don't think we're going to escape persecution we are supposed to have it and so it has nothing to do with the Tribulation Period because the tribulation periods not technically persecution it's a time of God's wrath upon an unbelieving world and yes the Antichrist goes after the Jewish people and he destroys Daniel 9 21 sorry Daniel 7 21 I think it is it says that power is given to the Antichrist to destroy the Saints that's not the church those are the tribulation Saints so you think about that Wanda what's cool if Jesus comes back tonight you and I can talk about that on the way up okay that'd be cool so then Elise from Rancho Cucamonga beautiful Rancho Cucamonga when people when people know that Rancho Cucamonga is here in Southern California they think I'm joking and it's real and it's beautiful so Elise what's your question oh so I originally had two questions but they told me I could only do one so well you know what if I ask both and if I'm a good boy I can quickly get both done oh okay so my first one is does it really matter if there is a pre-tribulation or post tribulation rapture since we will get to be with Jesus by being faithful to him either way it totally matters and here's the reason why Titus chapter 2 verse 13 Titus 2:13 tells us that it is the Blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ so it's a deity issue God our Savior Jesus Christ is coming for us and it's the Blessed hope it means that is that it is the imminent in any moment now blessed hope with a believer second passage of Scripture is for John chapter one well just read first John chapter one two and three and in there you're going to read that the rapture of the church is also what keeps you and I motivated and serving Christ and looking up at all times the Bible tells us over and over again Peter and Paul and Jude and John tell us that we need to constantly be alert constantly be watching out as we're serving Christ so it is a great great argument in the affirmative yes but the end is as you say we all get to be with Jesus in the end anyway but I mean that's fantastic but just keep this in mind we are commanded to be watching for him if there's a post tribulation rapture you do not need to be watching for him it's very important awesome and then what you're saying here's my good one if it isn't a Salvation issue to teach eschatology then why is it important to teach it's not a Salvation issue hit listen to this it's not a Salvation issue but eschatology actually is the is the delivery system of the doctrine of salvation in other words genesis 3:15 is an eschatological statement by God God says to Adam and Eve salvation is going to come through you Eve the woman from your genealogy from children that will come forth from you the Messiah will come that's genesis 3:15 the Messiah is gonna the seed capital S is going to come out of Eve that's amazing that's first of all that's impossible but it's a miracle that speaks of the virgin birth so the soteriology is the doctrine of salvation that is actually housed within the prophetic teaching of the Bible you take away prophecy and now everything else becomes allegorical everything else becomes an opinion everything else becomes not the authoritative Word of God and then I'm gonna end at least with this well you and I would never know if the Bible is true there is no way to know if your Bible is true without Bible prophecy this is the place where God says you you prophets if you prophesy wrong you're dead Wow what's the big deal what's the problem because a prophet uttering falsehood leads people astray that's why the the prophets of the Bible have never and nor will they ever be proven wrong every prophecy that has been fulfilled has been fulfilled literally which tells us that what is remaining will be fulfilled literally nothing will be fulfilled allegorically it's gonna be fulfilled literally and so it is extremely important because I would never know if Matthew Mark Luke and John are true if the prophets weren't accurately fulfilled in those eyewitness accounts I would never know that Isaiah was being fulfilled I would never know that zechariah 9:9 was being fulfilled on Palm Sunday I would never know that Jesus being born but born in Bethlehem on Christmas Day was the fulfillment of Micah chapter 5 verse 2 and Isaiah chapter 7 verse 14 so prophecy gives you an eyeball ness that what we believe is founded upon fact that's why if you listen to us I will often say that our faith is founded upon fact you say how dare you say that it's a religion our faith transcends a religion our faith is based upon fact and we are the only ones in the world that can say that nobody else can say that but the Christian it's awesome why because promise is true 27 to 33 percent of the Bible is prophetic and God did that for a reason Jesus said I've told you these things in advance that when they happen you'll know that I am he awesome god Bless You Elise Oh take care I think that's it you guys yep hey listen we're so glad that you've been with us if these things are a blessing to you let us know well I will keep doing these if they mean something to you you're busy I'm busy we're all busy but if this is valuable to you let's be honest I don't want this to be a you know weird I don't want this to be some kind of a time killer but if it's actually strengthening your faith and and causing you to be dependent upon the Bible then let's keep doing it and also I'd like to hear this from you if you would like to change up the content meaning it doesn't always have to be about Bible prophecy we can have an evening together where it's about salvation or about the Holy Spirit or about the baptisms is there water is there spirit is there fire what does this mean hey just let me know you would let me know now just respond to us you can respond on my facebook live on my page or you can contact the church email us but if it means something to you but by all means let's keep doing this and I want to thank all of you who tuned in last time and wound up telling friends because we have now in our first meeting together we have far exceeded over three hundred thousand views and that's because people want to know the Word of God and so I'm blessed by you so thank you very much god bless you guys and join us this Sunday will be here at 7:15 a.m. Pacific 9:30 and 12:00 noon pacific time book of Revelation chapter 3 we're going to be studying our lives and how they correlate with the Church of Philadelphia it's the church you're gonna want to be god bless you guys until next time [Music]
