Addressing the BIGGEST DRAMA in Wuthering Waves! Echo Investment Controversy!

hello and welcome to my channel iendo gaming we are currently experiencing one of the greatest dramas in gotcha history 44111 verse 43311 in today's video I'll talk about this entrancing topic to settle this drama once and for all in mothering [Music] waves all right I seen many comments and a lot of discussions surrounding the topic of 44111 verse 43311 and it's been a while since we've had some juicy Theory crafting discourse and this one might just rival the jungly debacle of genjin impact okay I'm just joking about that this is not nearly as intense since that literally led to death threats to Hoy overse but I have seen a fair amount to discourse in the community over this so what exactly is this discourse well every character can only equip 12 total cost of Echoes characters in weathering waves can equip echo in a few different ways with one of them being two for cost Echo with three one cost echo which is the 44111 build that uses 11 out of the 12 cost meanwhile the 43311 setup equips one four cost Echo two three cost Echoes and two one cost Echo this uses up all 12 out of 12 cost now different cost Echoes can have different main stats with four cost Echoes providing the much desired crit rate and crit damage and the three cost Echoes providing the highly desired Elemental damage or attack percent now for cost Echo are generally easier to farm with the two- pity drop system allowing you to alternate between a couple of world bosses with conveniently placed way points allowing you to farm one of them every 2 to 3 minutes on top of that there's seven main stats so the chances of you getting the desired crit stat is 1 and seven or two and seven if you're fine with either crit main stat meanwhile three cost Echo are generally more tedious to farm at least to farm infinitely as you have to go around the map killing a bunch of Elites and since there are 11 different main stats the chance of getting the correct Elemental main stat is much lower on top of that there's a limited number of three cost Echoes In Your Overworld and they just respawn once a day so if you have a lot of extra time to farm you'll run out of three cost Echo to farm and you'll have to start bugging your friends to go into their worlds to steal theirs and this debate stems from whether or not 44111 is a reasonable alternative to 43311 and specifically this is mainly an issue for Electro and Havoc elements at least as of release as these are the only two elements with two different for cost Echoes and even more specifically this is more so of a discussion for the electro element since Electro only has two farmable three cost echoes in the Overworld and there's actually barely any of these dumb birds or I don't know what these things are in the Overworld as such we will primarily be talking about how good the 44111 and 43311 setups are for the electro element now that we've sewn the seeds of the greatest discourse in video game history it's time to have a calculation Showdown for these calculations I will be assuming an easy peasy yinin rotation at sequence 0 level 90 and with her signature weapon at refinement 1 the string Master no team Buffs are included in these calculations and this is an extremely simplified set of calculations but it's better than nothing it goes without saying that different characters in different situations with different buff with different teams against different enemies in different dungeons will have different results but we can at least get a general idea in the first Corner we have 43311 which will be the Baseline for our calculation this heavy hitter is legendarily known as b or Captain well for 3311 be completely Unstoppable or will any other contestant stand any chance against it all right enough of those Shenanigans cuz I'm going to lose my whole voice if I do that but here's the whole damn chart okay at least most of the chart there are a few interesting takeaways from this chart with the first being that for 43311 with double Electro you can use an attack percent main stat instead of of an electr per main stat and still be within just a few percentage points behind when it comes to yin's damage output other characters have a larger or smaller difference but knowing this attack percent is actually a great alternative for the elemental three cost Echo and this means that you've essentially doubled your chance to actually get a usable Echo for your electri set having attack percent as another option and frankly all an attack percent three cost piece would need to outperform a three cost light ing damage piece is one additional crit or attack percent roll so knowing this we already have a great alternative to the double Electro three cost setup sadly though after this is where things start to go downhill we have a two-piece void plus two-piece lingering Tunes combination this starts to fall significantly behind as we're missing the 15 to 30% Electro damage from the five piece set bonus of the five-piece void we're talking around 91.5% of the five-piece voids 43 311's damage and up next we have 44111 the main topic of this video and the underdog and well it also does around 10% less damage than the 43311 this likely isn't news for most of you all as we all probably know that mathematically 44111 is overall worse but let's move on before I actually talk about when and how the 4411 could be worth it lastly we have the goofiest and the funniest suggestion that I've seen floating around and that people have told me about but it is the double Electro rainbow setup what does a rainbow setup mean well it means that you have no two-piece set bonus I've seen people claim that a rainbow double Electro set is better than the 44111 and I have no idea what these people are smoking I've been trying to conceive of why anyone would suggest this and I do think I've thought of one plausible scenario let's say you've got a really good for cost crit piece on a different set for a different character but you just want to use it on your newest shiny Wu that you just pulled out of the gotcha so you slap a dreamless onion Lin and call it a day then you manag to get an electro three cost lingering Tunes so you slap that bad boy onto yland as well thinking okay I'll want this lingering Tunes piece leveled up eventually for calaro then you miraculously got an electro 3 cost for the Moonlight set and you're thinking huh this could be used in the future for my Yin Lin to support my calaro oh and you're already have a good one cost Fusion Echo because you wore an encore main at the beginning of this game and you got another random off element one cost attack Echo that rolled pretty decently this is the only conceivable reason why I can think of people using a rainbow build but you know what here it is in this situation when you just want to use your shiny new waifu and can't be bothered to farm yet then sure this is indeed better than literally not having any Echo equipped at all however not only is this situation pretty contrived this brings me to the most important tip in this video do not level up offset Elemental pieces you might have just gotten an electro damage glacio set three cost Echo and be tempted to level it up for your Yin Lin but just don't crunch that Echo into a different Echo and sacrifice it do not level this as it will literally be the first thing that you'll trash the moment you have the opportunity to Rainbow builds are just terrible in this game and should be avoided think of it this way you're sacrificing the five piece set bonus which is 40% Electro damage to achieve this rainbow build a three cost Electro piece provides 30% Electro damage this offset three cost Electro piece fully leveled which believe me costs about 2 to 3 days of resources for a free-to-play player does not even make up for the 5p piece set bonus that you're missing so unless you're planning to use the electro main stat on lingering Tunes or the moonlet there is literally zero reason to level off element three cost Echoes anyway this brings me to my next point when is 44111 viable first of all I think it's actually fine to farm 44111 if you haven't already farmed an electro set and you're planning on building both yinlin and calaro this way you'll have two good four cost pieces to eventually to set them both up with 4 3311 sets this means that it's perfectly viable while you're farming for both characters to use a 44111 set on one of them in the meantime in other words this is a solid early to midgame farming option and you won't even necessarily waste any resources since Karo is more than happy to get yinin sloppy seconds on top of this it generally takes much longer to farm good Electro three cost pieces because there are very very few Electro three cost Elites in the Overworld however you can endlessly double Farm both the thundering mempis and Tempest me where if done correctly you can Farm about 1.5 of these every 3 minutes so yeah 44111 is perfectly viable as your first set because you're very likely to find a good use for your second four cost echko if you're going to use yinin plus calaro however if you're not planning to use both yinin and calaro at least in today's meta I actually don't recommend farming the 44111 as you'll be spending a lot of your resources on this setup with significant waste when you eventually migrate over to 4 through 311 one especially without having two electric characters to distribute these pieces to now there actually is one more non I'm just farming reason to use the 44111 setup and while I personally don't recommend it 44111 is competitive if you can get around 3 to four additional substats like three more crit rolls and this is honestly a bit unlikely and I would personally just be patient and farm better three cost Echoes eventually and let's also just quickly Circle back to the rainbow set given that once every piece has attack percent and both crit substat rolls on them getting more substats starts to have less impact as flat attack and TI percent damages become the next best options as such in order for a rainbow set to do better you'll need 22 ideal substats and that doesn't even leave room for energy regen which is pretty absurd to even consider as such rainbow builds are not something I can ever recommend for you to spend any of your resources into but they are literally a I don't have any Echoes yet so I'll slap this on my shiny new Dy Mommy to try her out it's also worth mentioning that Kuro games has been giving us even more ways to get the correct main stet on three cost Echo via the two most recent events making 43311 farming a bit easier also if you're farming tacit fields which you'll need to for Echo experience Taca Fields have given me quite a few Electro three cost pieces finally attack percent is also a very viable alternative to Elemental damage for your three cost Echoes so with just a bit of patience 43311 is definitely the way to go especially if you're only building a single Electro character so yeah hopefully this settles the 44111 verse 43311 debate once and for all now obviously I as an individual don't have the power to end this debate but I'd figured I'd at least present my arguments towards this topic let me know if I missed anything in which you think about this highly controversial and tumultuous discussion as always I appreciate every single one of you this is I went to lose signing out h

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Length: 12min 2sec (722 seconds)

Published: Fri Jun 14 2024