A Guide to Modifying Evos- The Aftermarket Ep. 2

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[Music] what when the japanese-market came to the US but a turbocharged four-door all-wheel drive it was the WRX which is in 2001-2002 you know the STI didn't come out of 2004 so when the evil came out right after the WRX it was an instantly better car so the evil became the go-to for the four-door turbocharged all-wheel drive and the STI came out and it became a battle from that on [Music] [Music] my name is Ronnie Solomon Oh an RS Motors started in 2003 pretty much right around the fast furious era RS motors we do pretty much everything from complete teardown machining assembling blueprint engine to installs to all the turbo upgrades fuel system upgrades down to the last line which is which is primarily we are known for the evils obviously since we erase a lot of Evo's or for racing why's this this chassis is what we focused on that's probably since 2013 I wasn't much of a driver then but back then I was into a drag racing more which this car and another chassis just like this one set record for stalks long blocks dr. bull running ten seven ten eight since then I transformed the car to a track car it became a lot more fun and the car kept performing and we kept seeing more potential out of the car it's it really hasn't seen an end it just keeps keeps getting better a chassis is a nice mellow guards race car he purchased it pretty much with a sort of purpose of tracking him I knew he could drive and I told him I could I can get you more power if you need it and it's always a push between you drives better I will output more power so a chassis became pretty much what we could push ourselves as far as they can go to what it is now it's which is 700 course you know it's a easy 9 second parlor sequential transmission in the US they started the evil market in 2003 it's called evil 8 up to 2005 and 2006 they came out with an evil 9 which is almost identical except for this has a MIVEC engine which is a variable intake cam at first it didn't look like an attractive attractive option or upgrade but then as as you start tuning it and be able to have boos come in earlier and torque them in earlier and a wider power band it's clearly a better ending evil 9 only came out in 2006 so that's for me that made it more desirable it I like what you can't find 2007 they didn't have one 2008 the Evo 10 came out completely different chassis completely different engine different transmission a heavier car so it's it it kind of threw the people people off a little bit but it's a it's a better handling car and more comfortable car so maybe they're trying to cater to a different market until I think 2015 is the last model and that's it for now and so they until they decide come up with another one so it they're evil 89 to have different models trims GSR GSR with sunroof or RS or mr models so the the RS and mr models come with aluminum roof and that both models come with the whole aluminum front end the lightest model being the the RS which they don't have power windows they don't have they don't even have dome lights in the middle they don't have door power door locks power mirrors no rear wipers there's no sound deadening anywhere in the car a lot of that stuff is eliminated on the RS when they came out they were kind of the track inspired model it's for people who's gonna modify them anyways and get all the weight out so why I added in the factory on the Evo tents you don't have the manual 6-speed anymore instead you have the SST six-speed option or the five-speed for somebody looking for an Evo for the first time maybe never owned one or just kind of getting started as close to stock as possible it'd probably be ideal we see a lot of cars come in and out the shop that's kind of been modified and sometimes it's scary the stuff you see how it's been done or how it's been put back together after it's been modified so I just say beware of the aftermarket stuff if it's not done properly I'm not saying all of them are bad you know it's always a good idea to have a Dyna place would be a place for your transfer ownership you know like higher diamond place for 80 bucks for two runs or something and car runs good the seller is confident that you can sell the car and the buyers happy but the car is healthy there's no better place and it's 80 bucks probably worth more than anything anything you can spend that it tells you exactly what what the end in health is and it can handle full power and not have to worry about it yeah on these chassis you have a transfer case or rear-end will start to wind if somebody dump the clutch on the launch or something or didn't take care of the gear oil and they do get old and they get hot so if you don't take care of them they will start to wear the gears and start a whine if a whine follows every gear shift is most likely your transfer case which is the most common well you know some people will track these and crash them and repair them from there or buy a part out a part about car buy parts and put it all back together it doesn't mean it's a good car or a bad car but depending on who's putting it back together right pace to have somebody who knows the cars to go look at it and say yeah this is this is not right so right before you even think of modifying the car maybe maintenance would be the first step fluid you want to keep up with them we try to change transfer case and if once a year if you plan to track the car as bad as it is we change fluids almost every track day if you're trying to modify an Evo so you just bought one a stock one the first thing we asked is what is your goal what are you using the car for is is the autocross car a drag car a track car or just a fun street car because those have different ways of modifying each one you know if it's if it's an autocross car would keep you in a stock turbo it's a drag car we want to ask what kind of horsepower or what kind of quarter-mile time we trying to get as far as basics when you get the car they come around two thirty to forty two the wheels stock some less some higher a basic tuning will get you about 300 horse if you don't have exhaust it's turbocharged car you need at least a three inch to let that end and breathe from a two and a half to three inch difference would be like 15-20 horses under 300 but I think will be more of a difference if you had stock exhaust up in the 350 400 range so you'd want that engine to breathe or you want at least a three inch exhaust brand preference there isn't any but weight is another factor so if you're modifying a car weight is horsepower less weight is more horsepower so it's about a 60 70 horse jump and then from there if you could invert in the car to the 85 you can you can get up to 380 390 and still have stock turtle that's on the nine chassis on the evil eight you will need cams to get to get to that power level the four be 11 on the Evo tents they are good engines and the and you can tune them to about 350 horse 370 torque on e85 the way they are stocked believe it or not maybe just a test pipe injectors pump and a booze controller will get you there we just scaled aluminum Evo 10 blocks 54 pounds and then cast-iron Evo 8/9 block is one hundred four hundred six Wow half the weight the 4g63 having a cast-iron block is always known to have of a lot more capability than an aluminum being cast-iron they are heavy but they're also stout you can handle a lot of boost a lot of power so the block itself are known to handle 40 psi and hold it and you can't say that with the later version of the Evo's with a 4 B 11 being aluminum block the sleeves on that block is not that thick you know and it will require for you to Reese leave the block with ductile iron sleeves for you to get more power on the heads on the 4b xi are higher flowing heads than 4g63 in stock form having this car as my test chassis I pushed stock turbos to 37 psi and it'll hold it as long as the tuners right and that's that's how I ran them a 10 second quarter mom bolted a different turbo on it because I want to see what the end you can hold pushed it up to 520 horse and write a 10-4 still on a stock long block so that tells you a lot about what the engine itself is capable cable or so if the 4 be 11 in stock form I push them to 430 450 horse we're seeing a lot of cars come in with bent rods or damaged piston piston rings ring lands as far as the sleeve itself I pushed a few blocks now their stock sleeps with six and a horse not too many miles on them but it's it's holding and it hasn't shown in any kind of weakness but we plan to sleeve that motor just in case so we don't blow it up and scatter it just because we want to push to the to the to the max [Music] so the evil 8th and 9th tuning Weiss there they're actually pretty simple the MAF on the cars can handle up to right around 500 horse above that you want to go speed density or simply looking support or star for G's are always known to be able to handle boost as long as you have the right fuel and octane level that can that can handle it most of the time is actually the turbo that's a limiting factor a lot of people don't know that maybe but nowadays it's very easy to get a turbo to bolt on and make a lot more horsepower so the engine becomes the weaker so 8 & 9 main difference is the MIVEC MIVEC table you can advance the table and get a faster spool and if you have a dyno that's kind of easy to do your graph pretty much kind of wakes up on the left side torque comes up horsepower fouls it and the whole graph just kind of swish to the left and makes it a lot stronger partner anyway as a tuner if you if you're tuning something that you just you know it's one table that you move and the whole graph moves up that's huge you can't you can't beat a spool and torque with just one table that's just it doesn't happen in the tuning world without the MIVEC so tuning for b11 they are it's a different stroke different different bore size than evil eights and nines and then a smaller turbo with a smaller faster spool interval so they spool you know like I think pull peak boost is like 3,100 3,200 verses like a 35 36 on evil eight to nine a variable cams on intake and exhaust we typically don't touch the exhaust side on us when it moved the whole power band around try to be careful with trying to get peak torque out of them because they're known to have weaker rods I don't know why they look like they're identical rods and stock rods in eighth and ninth but they are known to bend or break tuning these we mainly use ECU flash which is an open-source market which is also available on the subaru side access port was available for this car for a very short time but but when the open source market came out a lot of guys jumped on and developed software for this so we stuck with a with easy flash [Music] buddy these cars are pretty strong the way they are drivetrain ways we use a lot of stock components as long as you maintain on there I think there are lasts a long time even even track of use the transmission will probably be one that's just gonna require their attention and that's more of a driver side it takes a little bit more finesse to get a transmission to last when you're making a lot more horsepower so you're gonna make sure to just go in you're in the clutch and if you're just gonna try and bang the next gear and you don't time the clutch perfectly it's not gonna go in here or if you're shifting at 8500 and 9,000 rpm it's not gonna go in here on the synchrotrons you might get lucky and go in once a while it's not gonna go in every time well if your granny shifting for work so on the Evo 8/9 the transmission are identical except for some gear ratios and first and fourth mainly the five speeds are pretty stout transmissions there's also a six-speed option on the M R models of the Evo 8/9 and those some people would say they're weaker than 5-speed and some people would say to like them on the Evo tents you don't have the manual 6-speed anymore instead you have the SST six-speed or the five speed difference between the evil eight nine five speed and the ten five speed is this a lot beefier gears inside of equal ten double synchros and on pretty much everyone instead of having a single sink we're on some of the gears on an eight to nine they are shorter gear ratio for the tenths versus the nine and some people complain it's there on higher rpm cruising in the highway instead of lower in the nines the SST is a very nice option for these cars for the Evo tents it's a dual clutch transmission paddle shifting it's it's it's the best of transformations out there they do have weaknesses the magnets do fall off on the shift Forks which some people panic and think is there's a junk from there but it's actually a pretty easy fix we just scaled a five-speed transmission out of an Evo 8/9 which is a hundred twenty pounds and then the SST transmission out of an Evo ten or ralliart which is 222 pounds so that's a difference of a hundred pounds this is a stock ebo nine gear set a good one obviously and happen to think that's one of the weakest points of the evil 5-speed and that's what they do if you make enough torque you mash it on the throttle coming out of corner exits and you get in full torque they'll shred those gears so what we have is the upgrade here for to solve that problem I still use a synchronizer but you now have a straight cut gear set to run in your fourth gear the rep replacement this one happens to be a dual synchro conversion so you use the fourth gear dual synchro as a third gear synchro and fix that problem I think the evil eights and nines specifically the nines are going to higher in prices than any other model I think the tens are actually going down still insurance on these cars are kind of up there I think it's maybe it's cost of replacement because they're they're not so many of them and they're a rare model you know turbocharged all-wheel drive Ford or they're just not many I think they're for everybody if you like if you like the Roth feel go for the 8th and 9th they do have an amazing steering response the Evo tents if you're into more of a comfortable ride I think it's a better handling car on track than the 8th and 9th but they are heavier but you can get the same times with them and it's you know similar horsepower so they're they are capable cars even if they are heavier as far as daily driving I think they're they'll both do it but the Rothfeld always gonna be on on this chassis yeah this car will do good anywhere from a grocery getter to attract nice [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music]
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Keywords: evo, evo 8, evo 9, evo x, 4g63, 4b11, mitsubishi, dsm, ayc, rs motors, time attack
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Length: 19min 7sec (1147 seconds)
Published: Sat Feb 15 2020
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