Xanderhal Exposes His Girlfriend

is lanny in your chat lonnie's my girlfriend oh nice she's a [ __ ] so like she even just did it to me what i just said was that is transphobic um sorry go ahead um what were we saying oh yeah the infrared guy he's like um he's a he's a character i think that if you catch him being calm you can be calm but he's also somebody that will meme and go big into the blood sports but but he plays like a character so i would never i don't like to argue like that with characters uh because then i feel stupid like i'm being sincere and they're just a character so yeah i don't know okay my girlfriend's off limits okay all right um what tell her to stop talking at me then okay so i got but i can't control her wait i can't then you can't control me talking about her what the [ __ ] i can't listen i can't control women i don't have that power all right let's start protecting them treat them like equal people all right you say equal rights equals means equal fights okay um no but seriously though i think i think the reason why she did this is because i'm not a very um public person like with my personal life i try not to make most of my um like private life public you know generally just not a good idea like the internet's kind of rough it's not good to do and so uh i think she just saw this as an opportunity to um i guess push me into contacting her and potentially giving her more money i'm guessing uh that seems to be her mindset but um yeah i don't know if you have any general questions or anything i can give you a like a rundown of the basics so you can ask questions up to you um yeah sure i mean i tell you what there's a few questions i want to ask i don't want to let you you know off without um asking some pointed questions to get to the bottom of some of these other issues but before that like what's your kind of perspective and overview um you know versus what she said um so she lied a [ __ ] ton in her twit longer i could bring it up and like take down the bits i already wrote like a whole you know how many pages is it 14 pages about uh everything that happened beginning to end so that's what i'll be going over on stream finally our boy xander hall getting us some good drama any gaps that people might have in the story stuff like that um i don't think i'll publish it like as a manifesto for people to read i think it'll just be guidelines for my official like stream and segment where i that laurel hubbard thing was posted oh why the [ __ ] did i get linked that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that then is that irrelevant and that's too i feel like i heard her name like this so basically um yeah where do you want to start um okay so first of all i guess we can talk about because you know i don't want to um necessarily probe into the ins and outs of your relationship but this thing about the cheating so so you said she was cheating she said she wasn't i mean she got she claimed that she got herself a job cleaning airbnbs or something and when i contacted uh a friend of hers because what actually ended up happening was i realized that money was disappearing from my account and i noticed noticed this for a very long time and i didn't quite understand why um it just seemed like i'd have less money in my accounts than you would expect right and uh obviously like i use paypal for the income that i get from my website because that's what that's done through and then youtube and twitch always just pays you direct deposit through your bank account and typically i just transfer that over to paypal because it's easier to have it like that because debit card swipe do your thing do your shopping whatever um and uh i would just i'd do a stream or something and i just noticed that there wasn't as much money in the account afterwards as there should be i'd be like what's going on here what is this so i'd i'd dig um and i'd look through like my transactions i will say on one end i am super lucky um i have i have never been with i've never been with a woman that's ever stolen money from me like blatantly like stolen money um never been with a woman with like bad hygiene issues there are some like horror stories i hear sometimes there's something and i've never had to experience these things thank god um it's gotta be so weird how like a partner like stealing money from you that's wild well that i know of that's true hey pal it's got a little list of transactions right so you go through that [ __ ] you scroll through it and uh there's nothing there like nothing suspicious nothing that would make sense as to why there was money missing um and you know i'd ask her about this and at the time i had no reason to distrust her i mean for one we've been dating for like a year she's had plenty of opportunities to leave me unconscious in a bathtub full of ice with a scar on my torso so and you know she'd been like doing the shopping and and making sure that like we like you know she she'd not seem to have been irresponsible with my card or with my finances before it felt like we were operating as a unit as you'd expect a relationship to do right you're a team right you work together you divide your your tasks and you divide and conquer right that's what a good relationship is meant to be um and i thought she was holding up her end of those things but never let women do the shopping the far left and the far right agree on one thing women be shopping um no but so i i go through and i'm the reason why women be shopping because most men are too lazy to go out and shop for their household that is the reason why by the way but it's like something is up here something is up here so eventually i you know after budgeting and after saving and just being like i'm i'm kind of done with this whole being broke thing where's my money going uh this is pretty uh pretty cringe uh i'm i'm eating ramen for dinner and uh for some reason uh not not having money saved and it eventually got to the point where i was like okay what the [ __ ] is going on here so i decided to just not be broke anymore uh i decided to uh google how to not be broke anymore okay step one was stop letting your girlfriend steal money from through paypal and i did a little searching around then i discovered a little something i don't know if this is true you might know about this chat logic i don't know if most people watching will know about this because a normal paypal account that you have for like personal use and a business paypal account like you and i would have i assume you have a business one right logic yeah yeah that's right yeah yeah yeah and a business one have uh pretty different layouts why this is why leftists make terrible finance people well i'm 22. do you expect me to be like a financial genius hold on dude i i legit i'm looking at the chat right now and i i really am curious right now how financially responsible were you guys at 22 years old where did you learn your financial knowledge let's see i had my first house was working full-time had an oops baby i had a lot of finances going on xander hall did not teach me this you did not teach me this [ __ ] in school okay chad's giving you a hard time okay yes i agree that at 22 years old um you know you might not be the most financially knowledgeable uh one thing i do want to say though because why is that a bank account you can get where you just get a debit card like why is it all managed through paypal that seems like the wrong way to do it um i had a uh i remember my very first visa card i got i think i was 13 or 12 and i was so excited um i think your parents had to co-sign for it my parents had to sign on for it and it was a they it was a weird credit card because um it was the one where you had it linked to your debit account or something like that um i don't remember why but i had a paper route when i was in i had a paper out when i was in school so eventually i got like my first little i don't actually might have been a debit card not a credit i'm just going to debit card um and i thought that on the debit card i think i've told this story before um i saw when it when it had like the symbol on the card and then it had the symbol on the atm i thought that that meant it was free and i remember went to toys r us and i remember i was like i'm about to buy some [ __ ] i'm [ __ ] rich i've got 80 [ __ ] dollars okay that i just got paid by the omaha world herald we're about to go [ __ ] [ __ ] up and i got some gundam toy things i got some pokemon card booster packs and um i remember that i went to the atm four times that night because i was balling and i got 20 out each time and i was like hell yes okay 80 bucks in my account 20 bucks four times ready to roll and the next day i learned that i had like negative like 135 dollars over my bank account because it wasn't free if the symbol was on the atm there was a small transaction fee every time and the way that they processed like bounces yeah i got [ __ ] and i was like this is some [ __ ] a suncoast credit union account back in florida and it was just like big credit union back in florida but it's only in florida so um they're like a big bank back their big credit union but once i was in california and i lost my card uh during the move and had to cancel it was like well they they're telling me i need to go there in person to to like get a new card so what i just do is i get my direct deposit into my bank account from twitch and youtube and i transfer it over to uh my paypal and i plan to get a bank account here in uh california to streamline things but i just what percentage of people you've known since streaming do you think only liked you when they thought you agreed on everything or before you debated better than them do you think a chunk of them did it strategically for the antioxidant popularity bump or do you think they actually feel emotionally betrayed um i think there's a couple of things going on i think one i think there's a lot of people that a lot of people will say things like i really like destiny i appreciate his logical thought process i like how principled he is and blah blah blah blah when in reality what they mean is i like destiny because he argues really well for all the things i already agree with there's a lot of people that say the former and mean the latter but they don't even realize it um this has happened a lot with a lot of conservative fans i've picked up who are like and i'll see this happen on twitter over and over again destiny i really appreciate your thought process you're so based and you're so intellectually honest when you're criticizing lefties but every single time you criticize conservatives you become this bad faith animal monster what's going on it's like well what's going on is you're probably a partisan hack and you're just like when i [ __ ] on people on the left like that's probably what's happening um [Music] but then i think a second thing will happen where when when people and i should probably be more exclusive about this for all the people that have backstabbed me i don't think that people are going behind closed doors i'm like all right i've used destiny this much and i've used them up i've got enough out of them now i'm going to take a a 90 degree turn and i'm going to [ __ ] them up i'm going to go crazy and build a fan base off of it i don't think that's what happens i think what happens is you're surrounded by a bunch of people that don't really like me and there's a lot of uncomfortable friction there and it's just easier to be like like everybody's sitting around like man destiny sucks mantis looks like yeah yeah he kind of does yeah i think he actually i think he does suck too and everybody kind of like jerks themselves off or whatever and i think that's i think that's kind of what happens yeah i don't think that like any of the backstabbing i've had happened to me i don't think any of it was like intentional i think it's just people in general are conflict avoidant i'm conflict-avoided um and i think that they just will kind of like agree with the people around them because it's the easiest thing to do and yeah um i have a leaf thing on my little air conditioner and i think it turns off if somebody's not like walking by it is there a way to turn off eco mode it really irritates the [ __ ] [ __ ] out of me you are not conflict-avoidant um i am very conflict-avoidant in my personal life it's something i'm trying to work on um especially recently but i'm publicly i'll be like very aggressive but i think privately um i don't like to piss people off or like upset somebody or let somebody down or whatever that was part of the reasons why um i think when aerys came on to fight is because instead of like just saying like hey like i can't play this or i don't have time for this or whatever i think general just say like oh i'll try to make time for it or i'll try to do this or whatever because i think in my personal life even i tend to be pretty conflict avoidant um which isn't usually a good thing usually ends up [ __ ] over all parties hold on one second didn't get to it or as you can see now obvious reasons anyway so uh regardless i just noticed that the amount of money disappearing was absurd and sorry one thing to ask as well because obviously there's a famous tweet that you tweeted out about your paypal and money being missing is that also linked to this then um the one that i'm thinking of i think is one in which like a bunch of charges are made through my account through steam and that could have been her using like some steam like wallet [ __ ] to be able to get cash i don't know how that seems more likely to me that was actually some sort of hacker scenario or like some sort of like actual like someone out there [ __ ] with my account scenario which is common with steam seems kind of a high target for that kind of stuff so that could have been unrelated but there was other stuff that just seemed suspicious like there was a time where um and this was like i had no reason to suspect her obviously um earlier in our relationship i um i'm sitting there and i'm at the computer and i'm like typing i say early but like early when we're living together i'm sitting at the computer i'm like typing and [ __ ] um and uh you know having a good time i checked my paypal and i noticed there's like a bunch of charges these are not hidden by the way and i'll get to the hidden charge thing in a moment um to this like chumba gold coin casino thing and uh i didn't know what this was i was like what the [ __ ] is this so i googled it and it's this online app gambling whatever the [ __ ] thing on the phone and i i was like okay well this this is not this is not either of us this is just not either of us so uh hey lonnie you know what this is our target oh yeah our card card must have gotten skimmed at the gas station oh yeah did it should i cancel this one and order a new one oh yeah totally what yeah it's gonna take five to ten business days for a new one to come it's gonna be kind of a pain in the ass and she's like oh no yeah totally yep cancel it it was stolen the card was skimmed and i was like all right i'm canceling the card it's going to be five ten days till a new one comes can be kind of a kind of inconvenient and and she she literally went all the way in on that lie and the reason why i ended up finding out that uh she was lying to me is because later on um when i would go looking through my paypal and discover these hidden payments in the form of archive payments i don't know if these exist on normal like paypal accounts for like personal use but if you use a business account you can i know this because i don't know jack [ __ ] about paypal that i like don't regularly use why do people always talk about how much i failed as a father to nathan and not how much fosh failed as a father to xander hall ever wonder ever wonder why what's up with the hypocrisy there boys as an aspect to it you can click on a payment and hide it as an archived payment which takes it off of that big convenient list of transactions in your paypal that lets you keep track of all of your income and what's coming in and out and puts it in like a secret kind of like hidden page and when i found out about that that's when i that's when i saw the charges and i was like this hoe belongs to the streets god damn it um so you just found all these transactions she'd done that were like not anything you'd approved or aware of and yeah yeah you're losing the money yeah right yeah and and i i can't there's only so much typing under the calculator that i could do it'd be like small 15 20 like bits that would happen like throughout the day so it'd be very easy to not notice right like yeah five dollars 10 25 at the most you know and it'd be while i'm asleep or while i'm like out or streaming or when i'm doing something that'll distract me and keep my mind off of uh you know off of like my my finances for a while i know every transaction me too now [ __ ] um yeah well the thing is listen i feel like listen no we're not married chad's giving you a really hard time with this i think that you know obviously with an awesome i mean it's either transactional though right because like when when bad [ __ ] happens to people online everybody's well when bad [ __ ] happens to anybody everyone wants to be the guy that says hmm that would have never happened to me i'm so much smarter uh here's how you could have done it better like everybody wants to be that guy everybody wants to be the guy that says hmm here's how you could have done it so i think let me give a better um explanation um let me get a better explanation for it for what xander hall is saying here because he's doing a really bad time recording himself if you are if you are a streamer and you get paid what happens is when you log into your paypal what it looks like is like 4.95 4.95 4.95 10.95 4.95 it's just a ton of transactions like that and and past like the right when you log in it'll show you like the last like nine or ten like somebody could be like i shouldn't say this because i don't know if kay goes access somebody could be like stealing like a hundred bucks on my paypal like every few days and i would never notice there's no way i would notice i'm not going through and manually looking at every single transaction and for somebody like xander hall i imagine even even if you're not making as much money like there's still going to be a ton of transactions showing up in there um and you could be stealing [ __ ] and nobody ever know you know i think i think that um you know for me it's like i understand if you're using paypal as your financial thing and you can hide transactions it's going to make it more difficult to track and you know you've probably got a rough idea of what's coming in from your stream but it's not going to be a precise dollar number you're going to think i probably made about 200 bucks today or something or whatever and then it goes so you're not necessarily going to notice but i think the reality is and i think you'd probably agree this so this is probably a big wake-up call to you know go and get a proper bank account set up right no problem but you can say get a proper banking account but she could have been stealing a little bit out of like the paypal or the bank out too and he wouldn't have noticed right bank account though i do need to get a local one to i'm moving soon so i'm gonna have to get another local one um i'm gonna have to get a local one to to the state that i'm in now uh just because it would streamline things generally and i do agree with that the only problem is and you i don't is this is this the problem for you uh treadlogic but like with my credit union transferring money from my bank account to my paypal or my paypal to my bank account takes five days five business days so weekends don't count so like it's really a pain in the ass to transfer money from my paypal to my bank account and just use that instead like wait what five days weekends don't magic but like with my credit union transferring money from my bank account to my paypal or my paypal to my bank account takes five days five business days so weekends don't count so like it's really a pain in the ass to transfer money from my paypal to my bank account and just use that instead like sure it's it's not exact like the transfer back or fourth takes three to four oh he fell for the credit union meme because lefties online are always saying like when you're a credit union you're actually part of a socialist co-op because all the members of the union are way better it's so much better than being part of a cuck thing like wells fargo because those guys aren't credit unions they have evil capitalist owners he fell for the credit you mean it's not nice to make fun of him but that's a little funny this days not counting weekends so it's like well okay my my advice to you i'm not sure what you've got exactly in america but in the uk there's like online banks where you can start all the normal stuff like a debit card and so on but you can set it all up online um and you explain why it sucks what's the mean i mean like you should choose a bank when you go to choose a bank you should choose a bank that has like the best services the best fees and the best availability for areas you live in that that's what you should do for me full stop the idea of like obsessing over whether or not you're on like a credit union or something like it's dumb as [ __ ] if i don't give a [ __ ] of your credit you must be a trash [ __ ] bank with like three atms where i actually need them you know um don't don't don't don't do that [ __ ] don't don't obsess over it's got to be a credit union i think no it doesn't have to be a [ __ ] credit it could be a ton of different things got like a business account which i use for all my income and then um like a personal account that i draw money out of and i do all my spending on my business account that for like equipment and stuff so i i think from the sounds of it and then other people other reddit virgins reddit finance versions will say dumpshit like um actually destiny credit unions are better because they give you vastly better rates on savings accounts and uh something you might have never heard of called a money market account but like it'll be themselves okay cool good job you get like point seven eight percent interest on your savings or like one point three percent interest on your money market deposit account instead of like point four so like you shouldn't be you're not looking to these accounts to earn money anyway okay these aren't your good investment accounts don't don't do [ __ ] like that all right it sounds to me like you just need to be a bit more structured with how your finances are working and i don't know if you've got the ability to but i've already i've already i've already dealt with that that was something that i did uh very very quickly after i realized what lonnie was doing when i realized that my finances were not in uh trustworthy hands i locked down everything uh i changed my passwords like every everything's so secure it's ridiculous i set up like i went and i updated my renter's insurance uh to include fraud protection i did like a whole bunch of [ __ ] uh to to ensure that uh believe me i i i may be financially ignorant in some respects but i am not stupid i learned my lessons even if they're the hard way but um she yeah anyways so i end up discovering these fights these charges i get you know naturally pissed off and i'm like all right well this is already like the straw that broke the camel's back this alone is uh but wait there's more enough to completely end the relationship uh i the the stealing thing no no no no like that that's a bottom line she's done she's gone she's on the street now um but uh i i was i did have some morbid curiosity because i had my suspicions because she was out quote-unquote at work all the time i was like so what is she spending this [ __ ] money on so i hit up her ex-best friend who prior to this i would have never believed a word out of the mouth of but uh about lonnie but now i realize that lonnie probably [ __ ] this person over and that's and maybe oh no the worst experience for people that are in abusive or [ __ ] relationships i wonder how many girls are realistic about me the worst thing is when you when you go to date a guy or a girl and they're like oh my god my ex is crazy and at some point maybe even talk to that actually like wow they're really crazy whatever like they [ __ ] hate you like yeah they're an insane [ __ ] lunatic and then you find out like oh no [Laughter] that's why they hated this guy girl because this person is [ __ ] insane my partner is actually crazy [ __ ] me and then you have that come to jesus moment where like all right i'm gonna message this guy a girl tell me all the problems because i think i see him now you know it's like the that's the the change-up maybe she is a good person to uh to uh to go to about this so i talked to her about lonnie and she uh she tells me some interesting things she tells me about the meth and she tells me about the gambling addiction and she just link the meth memes throw up her chat logs we did the manifesto too early boys don't do meth kids oh yeah that's obviously meth she doesn't even know drugs what a dumb [ __ ] hey life important life moment for all you kids out there okay take it from me kiddos you can never identify a drug by the way that it looks anybody that tells you differently you can safely ignore everything they have to tell you about drugs you cannot tell you cannot tell what a drug is by how it looks don't ever forget that children this generally tells me about her being a manipulative like a master the quote from her is master manipulator like very very good at lying very good at convincing you that she's somebody that she's not that's how they got that's how it got because obviously it's in this uh twit longer so she told you that you said that to her and then it's in the twit longer um oh yeah i mean it looks like it uh anyway yes that's that original quote comes from her friend saying that she's a master manipulator and a liar and something that she said to me that kind of stuck with me and it's why i'm so glad that we got the [ __ ] police reports because it's such a at least for me it's sort of like oh yeah i was definitely right i'll never have that one shred of did i overreact all this [ __ ] in my in my brain like in the back of my head um what her friend told me was that she'll lie about this to the end she genuinely believes uh that the stuff that she does is morally justified and she's convinced herself of the reality that she's spooled for herself and she will never not even like just to your face admit anything that she's done um she will lie to herself and take those lives that is what her friend told me um that is about as close to uh uh word for words i can say um and we had this really long phone call me and this ex-friend like 13 hours long me and her talked um it was a very enlightening conversation and fun as hell because it was like oh this thing oh [ __ ] yeah she does do that isn't she such an annoying yeah it was fun anyway and this this information is also what contributed to the breakup as well then so so with this knowledge that i gained from this best friend um i of course message her and uh yeah building the harem uh i message her and um i message lonnie i'm like yeah so i know about the meth i know about the stealing i know about the gambling and uh frankly i i imagine you're probably cheating on me or something i don't even know what else her friends claim she's not a cheater but i don't care it doesn't matter whether she cheated or not it makes no difference she's a piece of [ __ ] um and right so just to clarify the cheating thing was kind of thrown as an afterthought it was the the stealing underlying that yeah that that was like i'm sure you're doing this as well kind of thing what is your experience it allows me to relate to these things um usually it's um careful when i speak about women because it probably applies to men too but i only date women but usually it'll be like um i'll meet a person they seem like really friendly and really chill really cool um and then i'll know that there are some people that are like really negative opinions about them but like i said and i have said this and i truly do believe this i'll give anybody one shot i'll give anybody a chance because people say a lot of crazy [ __ ] about me um but then after getting to know that person more they'll start doing things they're like okay now i see why everybody says this particular thing about you sometimes there are cases where i realize it's like okay i know why people hate you it's not really fair but i understand why um but like i think yeah i think you've gotten a bad rap and then other times they're like i totally get why people hate you and people should hate you um yeah just from me but you know maybe a little bit emotional on my part but i did say that to her she's not lying about me accusing her of that i will i will go on the record saying that okay um but but her behavior was fishy and i think it's more likely what she was doing was on meth benders and like you know doing what drug addicts do while they're like like just gone like i i don't know that's what i'm assuming she was probably doing and um yeah i dumped her ass i told her you're [ __ ] out uh i want you out by the end of the month i've already talked to the apartment complex i've already arranged to move out um i plan to stay for a few months of my mom's condos so i can save up money without any bills to worry about so i can rent a house up in seattle and um and i like people in chat meme about me being a dead streamer or whatever but i average like 350 400 viewers on a like average day um i'm i'm doing all right i'm doing all right and my my viewer my viewer account on videos is doing quite all right too okay is it can somebody tell me if i'm right or wrong i want to say it's why i give drug advice also i'm not giving you drug advice don't do meth okay um if you don't want to that being said meth seems like a kind of base drug i'm gonna be honest with you is it can you is it true somebody told me this i don't know if it's true and i've tried to look up information that's hard to find is it true that you can't od on meth that your body can ever only metabolize so much at a time so it's impossible to ever od on it so you um you um yeah you just you you can do a lot and it'll just last for a long time and that's why people go on meth benders is that true or is that not true does anybody know we are like at 50 50 in chat oh man well somebody will email me i think i had a couple people email me but like the um one of the reasons why i heard like meth is so easy to get addicted to is that um obviously it produces like really good feelings for you but like if you take a lot you're just really high for a really long time but you don't have to worry about like like a drug like fentanyl is very easy to od and kill yourself with um or heroin not as easy as fentanyl i don't think anything is as easy as fentanyl that [ __ ] seems wild um but like with meth you could take a ton and be high for like a week and you don't have to worry about like accidentally oding and killing yourself as much i'm like math you just have like long-term meth addictions that [ __ ] with your life in other ways but but that i'm not sure 100 that's true now though so careful so uh yeah that's pretty much where i am now i'm uh oh hold on the lady that made this wiki was going to talk to one point and then she disappeared i don't know okay a methamphetamine overdose may result in a wide range of symptoms potentially fatal at heavy dosages a moderate overdose of meth may induce symptoms such as abnormal heart rhythm confusion dyseria high low blood pressure hypothermia experimental syndrome such as adrenal adrenergic storm methamphetamine psychosis anuria cardiogenic shock cerebral hemorrhage serotonin syndrome in a form of stereotype or tweaking methamphetamine overdose will likely result in mild brain damage due to dopam dopamine journey and seroto serotonin neurotoxicity different phenomena poisoning is typically preceded by convulsion and coma oh maybe you cannot be on it careful i wonder if like form of ingestion matters too i'm not sure staying at my mom's condo and saving up for the next couple months just so i can afford to put the uh you know the payments down for a keep hating your life then working class andy oh you baby this is the good [ __ ] i love this myth here you go stevie my boy god damn duke this is why i wake up every day oh [ __ ] ready to write out another manifesto um and uh a big part of it is my uncle this is a bit of a positive side of things i'm going to give you as a bit of a a palette cleanser before i get into the really crazy [ __ ] because we haven't even gotten to the like breaking bad tear like what the [ __ ] is your life a tv show part of the story okay or the part where i went full sigma um anyway so basically she i message her and i'm like you're [ __ ] out all right for one i'm moving out of this apartment at the end of the month and so like they're going to get all this [ __ ] [ __ ] out of here um if it's not out like you can get your i'm getting my [ __ ] out you get your [ __ ] out i'm turning and turning in my keys and if your stuff's still in here my my name's the only one on the lease so i'll get the eviction she knew that that if she stayed in there and like didn't leave by the day that i was set to move out then she could get me an eviction um and uh like the apartment can't have someone living in it when they do the the the clear out day right yeah so you've got all the stuff moved out and then they come and they you know take the approval back right yeah so she um holy [ __ ] so she uh wait i was going to tell you the uh the happy thing first of all yeah wait until afterwards let me type down the thing that i was going to talk about happy okay so we don't forget all right that's the single word quail all right let's continue so she has a month to get up there and so do i i immediately start packing my stuff up because i'm like well this place is [ __ ] depressing i don't want to like be around in this apartment anymore um i guess i'll just you know go go move into my mom's condo it's nice it's like a place right around the corner she rented it a few months back it's i just chill there it can stream there it's like why not i'll have no bills to worry about the next few months can jump nice so that's what i decided to do and i started streaming and you know making my uh making money saving it up so that i could afford to uh do that little move towards the end of the year and uh you know i'm like hey lonnie uh you know a few days have passed a week's past are you gonna you know get your stuff out of there and she's like yeah yeah i'm gonna get it out but i don't have anywhere to go i don't have anywhere to go and i'm like well we'll help you move if you want to get a the thing she brings up in the in the twit longer is that we suggested she moved to big bear what we did was we found a place that she could get for like fourteen hundred dollars a month that would be rent and all utilities except for internet wait is big bear is that the mountain [ __ ] up in california is that where me and molina went big bear if so that place is based included as that's past a certain threshold of like i think uh electricity usage because it was like a rental vrbo it was like 1400 a month for that much included i was like i i found this place for you like here's a storage unit place you've got the money for it get your [ __ ] out here here you go here you go you actually helped her in this month even though he'd split up you were helping her to move out because i wanted her out not because i wanted to help her right be clear to be clear no no no positive feelings for her whatsoever sure however um i wanted himself i wanted her out and i want her out of my life permanently and to never hear or see from her again so i was like i will help you get out of here but you better [ __ ] get out of here 1400 all bills paid basically it's not bad it is [ __ ] amazing that is so goddamn good in america um in a place like that so basically um i found that place for um and i sent it to her my mom even did some searching and found some places because my mom loves searching random places online for like like vrbos and rentals and [ __ ] so even she sent some [ __ ] over her way because my mom and her were friends uh we would like like we would go on drives and like go to dinner and and lunch together and we had like uh like i mean go go into having dinner with with the with the mother-in-law type thing right like not mother-in-law literally but you know what i mean yeah um like that was the sort of uh dynamic that was going on there and uh she uh refused any help that we offered her she refused any help that we offered her and um you know another week goes by i've been here i've been streaming at this place if you've watched my streams you can see the change in setting and uh thank god they never i was never gonna marry her and i i don't think she ever wanted to get married either um but uh basically i'm not very big on marriage and neither was she so basically um [ __ ] i'm high right now so i'm trying to remember where i was that's all good so we were talking about so you were you wanted her out of your life so you were finding a place for her to live so i guess i couldn't help her find a place to live she rejected my help and at that point i was like okay well i guess she's moving out on her own it's on her if she doesn't get out in time then there'll be an eviction on my record but i'll just save up and buy a house if i have to or like figure some other way around it get a roommate or something that i'm that i'm friends with or something like figure something out i could always do that um i wasn't going to like continue to pay or allow her to stay there and she was just going to get evicted at the end of the month anyway so it was like all right well she's got she knows she's got her time she's seen the the things on the on the goddamn door um and uh you know she's uh she she knows what's coming she has her opportunity to get out and so it seems like she had other plans rather than moving out from the looks of it here it would seem that way wouldn't it so go over there about i'd ballpark about 10 days before she was arrested and uh we open we try to open up the door and the door will not open um it's like it just like we open i unlock it i use my key i unlock the door we stop by there to try to like make sure it's getting cleared out i want to make sure that she's actually moving out stop by the apartment open the door with the key but there's like a lock that's been installed it's one of those slide outs what are they called the ones that swing out and like stop a uh stop the door um she installed one of those uh which was like okay so or not a chain no it's like something you do it's not even a latch it's some swinging pla hard plastic magnetic thing you put a magnet up to it and that lets you move it and then you have to move the magnet to like steady it in place that's that's my understanding of how it works anyway so she'd installed one of those to make it so i could not go into the apartment the apartment that until the you know until a few days ago was still in my name and was then i had keysborne everything what she during my segment today but i have pictures and stuff that i took in the apartment of everything i'd be bringing up here what the hell are you building this building looks like [ __ ] go there we can't get in like okay she's gonna have to deal with what happens when the apartment complex deals with her and we'll just sit here like me and my mom were like we're gonna get some folding chairs and we're gonna set them up right in front of the the apartment and we're gonna get popcorn and we're gonna get slurpees to sit down and watch as she cries while she gets evicted because she decided to sit there like a squatter for a month with every opportunity to move out to try to [ __ ] me over and that's what our plan was and it was going to be very very very enjoyable that's how it went however um however things actually ended up going a little bit better uh a few days later end up getting a letter one level spawns mobs lonnie had attempted to get some credit cards in my name the problem is she's stupid and uh i cancelled them before she could do it and then lock my credit with the three major credit um bureaus so she can't do anything else there so my credit was secured like in 10 seconds she wasn't even able to do [ __ ] with that but i had enough evidence um to uh get proof of her engaging in credit card fraud so as a matter of fact one of the next uh steps on the road here is reporting her to the police for that so we'll be filing a police report for that um especially because like we didn't zero in the new update wait mobs only spawn at zero light level they won't spawn it are you serious sorry do it because she's been threatening to post that twit longer for two days now if i don't call her and i was like we're not gonna send her straight back to jail two days later on federal uh credit card fraud like like yeah i don't want to do that right away just you know being crazy and have just and has just gotten out of jail and is being hysterical here but well now you better believe i'm pressing charges she's going to prison she's going to prison that's what's happening well at least you have somewhere to stay at that point i guess yeah she'll have somewhere to stay um yeah no she's going to prison guys i'm i'm pressing charges like why the [ __ ] wouldn't i like when am i going to leave her to be homeless i'm act like unironically like i feel like it's the kinder thing to do unironically um in all seriousness though yes yeah so just want to clarify so so basically like she had the month to move out you'd i'm kind of ported in the right direction with no priors or anything there's no way that she's going to prison i mean she'll probably get the book thrown at her like in terms of fines and [ __ ] but no way june because you wanted to kind of rid of her um but then she took steps to lock you out of the property um you know which obviously caused you a problem uh well here's where things get uh oh here's where things get breaking bad tier okay they haven't gotten crazy yet oh i'm ready all right so um we're filing well like at the time we were like okay we got to get lonnie out of this apartment and so when he found out she had tried to like do credit like steal my identity and also like get credit cards my name we're like all right well let's just file a police report and the cops will take you right out of there and problem solve we just move everything out and you know there we go and i [ __ ] you not i am literally typing up the order of events to show to the to give to the police officer when um i have the sheriff over to to file the report and i get a call from and this is the county that i'm in it's a big county the riverside county uh uh jail system and i'm like no [ __ ] way no [ __ ] way because there's there's only one person it could have possibly been who the [ __ ] else is calling me from jail it's [ __ ] her and and i i ignore her call because i know she's in jail and i'm like yeah yeah you you sit there scared um and so i uh um i go and i i check online and sure enough just as i suspected at this point i had no hard evidence that she was a drug addict or that she had um that she was a a thief necessarily and have the hardest of heart well i had a heart evidence she was a thief i didn't have hard evidence she was a drug addict yet um and not with meth but uh well i mean you saw the arrest reports what i sent you and what you showed on stream is exactly what i found online jetlogic so so this yeah it seems to be uh pretty pretty clear-cut here i mean obviously at this stage you know not to run defense or anything but this is the police aspect so i mean would they prosecute her for this how would that work would they move things forward what ended up happening is so she had a fictitious check on her which is a felony a felonious uh offense and she had um obviously meth on her and probably a pipe and like other paraphernalia on her and uh what most as you can see there's the um the a's next to the uh the charges there on the bottom those are the ones that ended up being sentenced she pleaded she pleaded down from the felony charge and the two misdemeanor um possession charges down to just two misdemeanor possession charges because well in california that's going to be a lot less severe also the um if you want to look it up i mean you look it up right now the riverside court system right now is extremely extremely backed up and like low on judges they're pushing people through really fast and pushing people to get um uh plea deals really fast so she was like there's got to be like a meme in here where it's like leftist when the crimes aren't against them and it's like we need to forgive everybody and we need to be chill guys and then it's like leftist when people commit crimes against them death penalty and rape time in three days of being held able to get a plea deal down to some basic drug possession and get out but i mean she's got a rap sheet now you know really cool to dox your ex too i'm just going to go ahead and throw this out right now this is all public information not only is the information that is in that police report not only was it public before all of this because lonnie made her information public but also that police report is literally public and none of it is doxing there's no no one's address is even on there the the place of arrest is two hours away from the town we lived in um i mean i can't listen i've got to be honest i can't help but protect a sense of um of glee like it seems like you're very kind of excited about this yeah do you not feel any sense of sympathy to water in any way or well we haven't gotten to the crazy part yet have we uh chad logic we haven't gotten to the crazy part oh so after i find out that she's in jail and we've got four days to get all the trash cleaned out of the apartment and get it like ready for the apartment complex to like if there's some heavy furniture and [ __ ] in there that that i can't move on my own because it's like some big [ __ ] giant like uh uh like case for like putting dishes and stuff like that um they said that they'd have the maintenance guy with uh or a couple maintenance guys with like a hand truck deal with stuff like that um and that would just be like i just have to pay the hourly fee for the maintenance guy which is like 16 bucks an hour so it's like okay that's fine i can i i'm fine with like some heavy [ __ ] being left in the apartment paying whatever it takes get that [ __ ] out i can't get that stuff out um on my own so um we go we go to the apartment and the door's still locked we can't get in and we we're like all right well let's just call the police let's have them let's have a cop come here with some power tool maybe they'll get the maintenance guy to come here with a power tool and you can just saw through the [ __ ] saw through the glock right you saw right through it and uh we ended up going around back first finding out the back door was actually unlocked and we were able to get in the backslagging last door she must have been so [ __ ] high that uh she forgot to [ __ ] lock it so we were able to get in there and this is where sheik gets crazy lonnie talked about the uh apartment being trashed in her little twit longer here and uh i have a feeling she might be projecting a little bit because what i walked into what me and my mom walked into was the i thought that there must have been a compost pile somewhere in the apartment compost it had been 10 days since i had been to that apartment and i walk in there are pics there are pics and they'll be shown off on stream um i walk into the apartment and it just smells like a [ __ ] compost pile and okay i'm trying to think of where the best place to start of things that i found in there i'm gonna start with the least offensive things and we're gonna work our way up to the insanity scale yep so you know how i'd taken the cat over to over here to take care of her when the ac broke so that she wouldn't you know die in like the goddamn desert heat of palm springs um the uh the cat food bowl i i forgot to to empty that out which is fine because lonnie came home right after that and and and would have been able to deal with it but no the last 10 days that i'd been gone and she'd been staying there apparently she had a left that cat food bowl this wet cat food [ __ ] sitting in the bowl on the ground for 10 straight days and i kid you not it was full of [ __ ] maggots the kitchen swarming with these tiny little flies the goddamn trash can was just vile the inside of the fridge was literally like cooled with the green juice like this pale green juice from different like produce that had started leaking and rotting because apparently what she was doing was buying fresh produce like a week's worth of fresh produce and then let goes bad in a few days and then like not eating it letting it go bad to waste money um she oh here's the crazy [ __ ] now so the house itself was obviously completely trash there was garbage everywhere and then this is what really pissed me off she was making drugs in the living room she had a drug making operation going in the living room and i won't go into super big detail on that we threw all that [ __ ] out and i just i because it was happening in an apartment with my name on it and we got all that [ __ ] out of there i i don't want like to deal with the the [ __ ] from it so i won't go in into any more detail on that but yeah simon says that's what i end up finding in there and not only that but i also end up finding this first must have been some people should be ashamed to call themselves why even pretend to be against an overly punitive system people do bad things to you okay everybody turns into a conservative when they're the ones getting [ __ ] over that's just the way of the world my friend arts and crafts table project but no i see sitting on this like uh i think what's called a cricket or like this it's basically a segmented cutting board for like it's got laminate it does lamination there's a thing for like cutting out different bits just for making fake ids they had a fake i they were making fake ids imagine if lanny lanny if you're listening okay please just do this could be funny as [ __ ] imagine if she actually turns all of this around and what we actually find out is that she was making fake ids for like trans people to escape like oppressive like sex slavery conditions and then we find out that like the fake ids were for trans people to escape like like horrible like visa abusers and [ __ ] and it's actually all completely the opposite the drugs she's making were actually it was part of chloe's operation for do-it-yourself hrt and their failed fake ids were sitting on the [ __ ] table now of course we got pictures and not only did we get pictures of that not only did we get pictures of that but we also and this will also be getting reported the police um not only to get pictures of that but we also literally got a picture of the to-do list that she had drawn out in which she literally says buy a cricket for uh fake ids she'd literally written by a cricket for faker on the to-do list they had a to-do list of things to buy for doing their crimes and wrote out what they were for in said to-do list so we got a picture of that too and uh why would you write this stuff promptly sent promptly sent every illegal piece of paraphernalia and material straight to the [ __ ] dump uh to whence it came uh because god knows i did not he left the cops wouldn't be more evidence because there's the apartments for what she did in that apartment um i'd hoped that while i was gone for those 10 days because that was i'd moved out that she would knowing that they were going to be clearing that place out soon that she would herself clear that place out and she did take everything that was valuable she took everything out of there that was hers that was valuable this is that this girl hated me online god they're all watching the lefties all eat themselves very tasty mm-hmm she only really left garbage big heavy furniture and um and and like her photo albums and her uh valuable like her sentimental stuff the stuff she talked about in her twit longer and um before they uh trashed the house um we put all that in storage it's safe and um it's it's going to be given to her like as soon as she has the ability to store it the problem is i'm paying for the storage so i'm not going to give her the key and be like okay i'll keep paying for it once she gets that key that stuff's getting out of that storage unit i'm not paying for it anymore none of the stuff in the storage units criminal stuff um i'm not paying for it anymore so she's gonna have to find a way to store it so i don't know why she's so insistent that her homeless ass living in a car needs to right now have her cat and all of her items back because she apparently has nowhere to live and know where to put it so like she's literally got a storage unit with all of her stuff and i've got the key and we'll give it to her whenever she wants it like i'll probably i want to mail it to her because i don't want to talk to her but like once she's got that key i'm canceling like and she's gotten her stuff out i'm canceling that storage unit and it's she's got to figure out a way to get to store that herself because i'm not going to be responsible for it um and i mean i'm a person she's listen i'm not a cat person i love the cat but like it's a pain in the ass to have a pet you know like if especially one that's not as sweet as a dog okay if the cat was as sweet as a dog then then it would be it would be a little bit more um appealing to have this cat long term but i assure you i have no intent whatsoever to keep her cat forever um people in makes that a new donor sounds like it's happy because of the abusive like neglectful household and it's like you've got a point but at the same time it's like one legally i have to return the cat and two it's like [ __ ] cat i know it sounds shitty but like i i don't you want her out of your life when you want the cat out of your life i i want her out of my life and i want to make sure the cat's okay okay and preferably a cat could be in her owner's care and safe in her owner's care that is the ideal thing right and that's what i'd like to um like to have happen um okay well listen that this is all of a very intriguing tale however i just want to check something in regards to the sort of methylab allegations because in my mind okay sorry that's me putting words in your mouth um okay the apparatus that was used to seemingly make drugs let's put it like that okay um so you're saying you kind of threw all that away is that not something you would need to report to the police and um have dealt with on an official basis so the apartment was in his name he didn't want to have an apartment and your name is the only one on the lease yep and you call the cops and have them come over and tell them there's a drug lab and everything going on in my apartment but it's my girlfriend that did it my ex-girlfriend that did happy to be a part of your community smiley face let's just say it's gonna be a tough [ __ ] time to uh to like to it's just gonna be a tough conversation to have you know i just don't like talking to cops listen listen regardless of how in the right i am okay in any conversation or interaction with a cop even if it's me and a cop just sitting down on the bench having a beer together the fact that cops have the ability to like you know arrest you and that's just kind of on your record is kind of a scary thing isn't it well yeah i understand where you're coming from but i mean you know i just think it seems to make sense to me that you would kind of lawyer up even if it's a public representative and um i'm going to say this i'm going to say this it was not a member it was not method making it was not a dangerous or oh is it like mushrooms what she was doing as far as making drugs was not dangerous um and i'm saving these details for the police because i want to be able to release like a police report for like weed what we're going to be filing and all of that okay for the future because i don't know what she's actually going to get in trouble for i don't want to promise oh she's getting in trouble for this and this and this and then she doesn't right because i can't promise that pill press but that's what i found you do pill press is a small operation i threw that [ __ ] away because i wanted nothing to do with it they were clearing the apartment in three days and i could not do a whole [ __ ] like do you like criminal investigation in this apartment during all that it's just not something it's not something i wanted to deal with you know what i'm saying so um cleared the [ __ ] place out cleared the [ __ ] place out okay um yeah and and but you said but you're saying that there's other things that are going to send the police though so it's fearful you know like that i don't want to get involved in with the police but this i am willing to get involved with with the police so you're gonna have to talk to the police at some point yeah we're we're getting we're we're going to have to now when when all of this went down and we're clearing out the apartment i really didn't want to get them involved because it was going to slow down the progress of getting everything out in time for me not to get an eviction on my record uh or on my on my credit which is what i was trying to avoid because why would they do an eviction if there's a genuine reason that this has come up because it needs to be vacated in time for them to clear it out clean it and get it ready for new inhabitants i'd come to a agreement with the apartment complex manager my lease comes to an end here i'm getting the [ __ ] out of here i was moved out her presence there she was not on the lease she was like not supposed to even be there so her presence there she wasn't a legal tenant and she was the only one there so the apartment this is how the whole drama started is this just the xander hall iq meme okay thank you for wasting all of our time clicking here let's wanted her out and i wanted her out and i told the apartment complex i wanted her out so they were they they were clearing the place out i want it cleared out i wanted to be moved out and i wanted and they want to make sure she was moved out by the end of the month and they were going to and they were officially i mean i wouldn't he does troll he's fairly smart i i don't know who is who is lanny in your chat lonnie's my girlfriend oh nice she's a [ __ ] [ __ ] i mean i wouldn't drew and face really smart i i don't know who is who is lanny in your chat lonnie's my girlfriend oh nice she's a [ __ ] [ __ ] evicting her because i told them as soon as this all went down when i when i realized that lonnie was stealing my money i told her the apartment complex manager what was going on she was one of the first people that i ended up speaking to shortly after this because she knocked on my [ __ ] door like two days after i found out that lonnie had been stealing from me to tell me that like well i'm packing my [ __ ] up to tell me hey zan zan hey alex um your rents passed due i was like are you sure are you sure about that by the way apartment complex manager looks like a milfie aoc just throwing that out there anyway so um basically uh i talked to her i explained the situation and um she was very very nice when i explained to her the age difference between me and lonnie that was when she seemed to have a personal vested interest in making sure that um like this worked out in a way that didn't involve a eviction wait what is the age difference between him isn't he like 24 what does he what does he mean or is ilani really old she is 31 and he is 22. yikes fiction on my record and so that's sort of how a lot of the prerequisite to everything needs to be out by this day in particular um needs to be out okay everybody's so stressed about getting a particular day couldn't he have just like done like a month a month like just a one month extra lease bro what is up with finding diamond patches that are only one diamond big is this [ __ ] real life am i getting mine [ __ ] okay please stop bro okay no listen you guys hold on wait child logic you do not get to be chub logic viewers and get offended by that no listen okay right this is what i want to say to you okay based on based on your financial um setup i'm just a bit concerned that maybe this hasn't been dealt with in the best way and i just don't want you to get in trouble because you know you've taken some action that dismantles this you know apparatus that was set up and then you're on the whole is that not a potential so it might happen we're we're we're fine the um the thing we're going after lonnie for most likely i don't think we're going to go after her after her for like the the drug [ __ ] or anything like that she already got like how this is so embarrassing how do you have it how do you have a 10-year age difference in a relationship and the older one is the person that is the [ __ ] like [ __ ] messed out drug dealer wait what is happening here holy [ __ ] oh no fire's for drugs now like why the [ __ ] is that even necessary all i'm doing then is like getting myself like a more embroiled in all of that so what i intend to do is literally just here's the evidence of her falsely trying to get credit cards in my name uh we're just reporting her for that these are federal crimes so that's what we're going to do and uh i didn't want to have to do it but at this point i don't really have a choice she's not going to leave my life she's not going to leave me alone she's going to keep on starting [ __ ] on twitter she's going to keep on trying to do things to get my attention and try to pressure me into helping her financially she wants her car out of the [ __ ] impound because oh my god she literally had every opportunity to get her listen i had every opportunity to get a bank account in california she had every opportunity to go and get her car her tags up updated they were expired in 2018. that is how expired they were on that destiny lifestyle i found out i didn't find this out until after i bro am i still still driving around in nebraska plates from 2018 2019 i don't remember when i last registered that [ __ ] as long as i don't get pulled over that [ __ ] until i saw my car okay he left was the day the power was shut off he was using my power bill money to buy vapes wait what oh i broke up with her her car her tags in her car expired in 2018. so that's probably why she got pulled over she released emails on twitter she was making insulin in their apartment to distribute to undershirt diabetic kids shut up edna twit longer i believe that bit of the story i mean yeah listen she's done some stuff here which is just you know indefensible and really stupid and here's here's the thing though right because like you know i understand you want this you know essentially this [ __ ] out of your life i guess is how you put it i just i just wonder if there's a bit more of a balance though because you really seem to be kind of relishing the idea i appreciate she's done a lot of [ __ ] up [ __ ] according to you but it feels like you're really relishing like her going to jail say and stuff like that um and i just wonder if there's any sort of like spite influence in all of this that's affecting the way you deal with it oh like in the same way that when i had the sex cult drama there was some spite for sure like when somebody is like like [ __ ] you over the degree that she [ __ ] me over and then tries to go to the internet to drum up a little pity party in the way that she did you read her twit longer it's a pity party she's begging for money and sympathy it's it's all i think there's like for xander hall there's probably two things going on one is he's young and two is the immediacy of it like there have been people that have like [ __ ] me over kind of that i've like wanted to end their life and i feel super [ __ ] horrible about and then like you know maybe in a few months or maybe a few years i've got a little oiling oh yeah i kind of feel bad for that person like yeah i [ __ ] up here whatever it's like i'm sure xander holds like probably incense now and he's probably riding high off the feeling but um i'm hoping that in a few years obviously he's like okay well you know maybe maybe this wasn't maybe this wasn't it chief well it is it's it's meant to it's for e-bagging um like that was her whole point here is that she wanted to go to the internet to get attention and to make money um i mean yeah sure i don't disagree with your analysis there i think that's probably true um but i mean i am i am genuinely i have like a shred of sympathy in her for like her situation but like so many parents i i don't know if i can get across to you how many opportunities she had to avoid this like like she had to go out of her way you know to um to to get herself arrested to hang out with drug dealers and drug addicts who are like by the way she lied about that guy being on probation he has an out of audi out out of county warrant that's why he was held without bail he can look at his go look at his uh his arrest thing right now it says literally out of county warrant uh no bail that is she literally lied about that direct literally lying uh uh thing yeah yeah i just you know and the thing is it's a difficult position to kind of say so i'm not saying you need to like look after her like you want to be done with her you know and i totally get that um and she's done some [ __ ] up [ __ ] but like she sounds like kind of sick and desperate you know and i think that i listen she was very good at making me feel bad for that's all i'll say okay every time that i found out listen all i'm saying is every single time that i saw some sussy [ __ ] [ __ ] going on in my account and i was like lonnie what the [ __ ] is this this is weird like what's going on she played the pity party she did this exact kind of [ __ ] textbook woman manipulation true um like i'm sorry but it literally is just that no it's i'm just trying to put a different alternative position to you because you know like i say it's difficult for me to to you know i'm sure she's miserable she's definitely in a bad place right she is definitely in a bad place and not doing well however she is also a manipulator who's trying to make money i really hope she gets help i hope she gets rehab and frankly i hope that in three months or whatever she's clean and living a happy life i don't wish poor on her i wish bad things on her but if she's going to keep on doing these self-destructive things especially if they're meant to also hurt me as it would seem then i can't really feel that bad for her specifically that's true yeah i mean you know obviously you're very close to it this is very personal to you um so i i kind of get that i just it just feels like you're really relishing the idea that she's gonna have bad things wait but okay wait wait hold on like have you ever been in a situation like this have you ever been [ __ ] over to she was out got arrested with drugs and it happened to her because of her actions damn these are not to show general anything because it's funny but these are the conservative talking points cops don't unfairly target you cops don't punish you you got pulled because you were speeding you know you got trapped because you did this you earned that consequence okay that's not something somebody did to you that's not you did yourself right that's just it's funny because it's a very conservative talking point not that it's necessarily right or wrong but why should i feel bad she was out like she was literally i don't know listen no i don't know listen okay wait wait that's like almost a foster caught me though because i'm not saying you need to feel bad and be like she's crying tears but you're almost like we're sending this [ __ ] [ __ ] to jail and that's like you know kind of on the other end right she would she would literally i don't i don't i genuinely think she'd do the same to me to get ahead ahead for herself i i genuinely want somebody to go and play well she's suffering from how he's using the police before that like do you do you think that your view on this aligns with maybe some of your perspectives about rehabilitation and police and things like that oh yeah right so if you heard about like a drug addict going through like a tough time doing some [ __ ] up [ __ ] you'd be like get that [ __ ] to jail [ __ ] her or would you maybe be a bit more sympathetic if you didn't know them do you think there's a difference between the state of the current american prison system that seems to basically take people who are like kind of criminals a lot of the time and pump them out being more so criminals like you go in there for like possession of some [ __ ] and you come out and you know you a lot of people come out of out of jail more of a criminal when they came in recidivism is a big problem uh people in chat are like meaning about this and omega lulling as if recidivism is a problem hey come on why are you looking at chat chat's gonna [ __ ] you know wait well i'm a streamer wait we're literally both streamers the the point of knowing the streamer is you meme with the chat you you like when someone says something stupid in chat that's like listen wait hold on listen listen to me for a second yeah i know obviously there are drama frogs in here that want to wind me up obviously no doubt um the point that i'm trying to make right now is that a lot of people will no doubt watch your segment or watch this spot after it goes up and have questions about things like that and while that person might be drama frogging and asking for an added meme this is how conservatives talk about abortion right abortions are things that [ __ ] get because they're irresponsible okay but when they get pregnant okay well i made a bad decision this is like a once in a lifetime thing like this i don't know how this happened to me like it's different my circumstances is so much different than everybody else's blah blah blah blah like this is exactly exactly the same type of talking point which is funny but not to say that anybody's necessarily right or wrong but in bad faith there's no doubt going to be someone down the road that's like well why didn't zan do this or what about this or why did zan do that oh zan says a piece of [ __ ] cause he did this i'd just like to clear that do you think your individual reactions to your own services have to line up your policy prescriptions uh absolutely not um it depends on the type of thing we're talking about i mean it's it's gonna depend on everything we're talking about the example that i always give is that um vigilantism is bad and we have dispassionate courts for a reason that's always the case you shouldn't be there to like enact you know mob justice or vigilante justice but like if a parent walked in on some guy that had just finished raping his kid and the guy was done and he's like oh wait hold on like i'm not a threat anymore like i'm finished and that's killed the dude like it's gonna be pretty hard for me to morally condemn the parent like you shouldn't have done that that was wrong that's a it's a pretty tricky situation there you know so i like i yeah i mean like we should all aspire to our deals and everything but like society exists as society exists we should allocate for that but sometimes it can be hard personally depending on the issue and it can be hard to condemn somebody that acts in a way depending on the issue but there was misconceptions sure no problem no problem okay as long as you're as long as you're happy that's the main thing okay um okay so anyway i mean yeah i'd like to say i i mean i have a hard time you know feeling a high level of sympathy but i have some level of sympathy i just feel like because you're so close to this it's kind of obvious right but you're going to have a more emotional response that might supersede um like a principal you might have or something like that um but you were explaining about the jail thing and you were saying about people coming out of jail recidivism what point were you trying to make there so i don't think that my personal dealings with somebody who has attempted to use my like facilities my my like my resources to get the ironic thing for um the ironic thing that xander hall maybe he'll come to understand this in the future a lefties one in general is um people will talk about how horrible like drug abusers are treated in our criminal justice system or whatever but the reality is is that unfortunately a lot of people that are addicted to drugs and abuse drugs also have really really negative impacts to the people around them as well um like drug addicted people have very bad downstream effects if they have kids for sure family members friends that they steal from like it's not that uncommon that these are issues that spill over into like every other part of society too you know buy in life and [ __ ] me over i don't believe that me using the legal the currently existing legal system that currently sits in place for situations like this i don't think that me believing that there needs to be some changes or uh some some just some improvements to our criminal justice system i don't think that means that it makes me a hypocrite simon says call the cops when someone when someone steals from me no i don't like what is this i'm sorry i don't want to like consider having conversations with mormons and jw questions you know it's all good um i just you know like to give people yeah i'm curious do you think of me as like the a cab screaming type is that generally like literally pointed out like politics from what i understand is um like an anarchist leaning person but you know particularly over the last year or so maybe a bit more you've come to a more moderate kind of sock them almost sock dem type position so i i imagine you probably think the police should be reformed or something most people most people call me like a progressive lib that's just generally where where i sit because it's any anything past that point and you're basically larping about uh you know nothing that's going to be relevant in modern day politics and um you can talk about issues that are like radical like oh i think yeah wait did xander hall was he one of the people that was saying you should let businesses burn or whatever instead of like violently fighting off people it's always different when you're the one involved huh we should solve this problem even though any solutions be radical to it this is a problem i think that's fine but like i i think that more pragmatic like not even sock dem but like even like policies like uh um medicare for all aren't even that popular among the democratic party i'm pretty sure um it's more like like things like this are not i'm not super duper on board with like the super ridiculous never going to actually get past stuff on my content anymore i don't think it gets anywhere and i don't think it's productive so um i'm not all on that [ __ ] acab screaming [ __ ] all the time so i don't know where that conception comes from but i do uh think that there needs to be improvements to our criminal justice system and i don't think that like drug addicts are people that should just be tossed to the wind and thrown about in society as like garbage can never be seen or thought of again but like unless you're human holy [ __ ] that's just yours as well i mean as you said before like is it my responsibility to make sure that like this person who's [ __ ] me over is doing well in life like no giga chad [ __ ] her she's done she she had it wait somebody like that twitter graph again [ __ ] where was it was it was it a twitter graph or so he was a liberal gets mugged kind of becomes conservative is that the is that where he was at to get the conservative part it's pretty funny she did this to herself i'm sorry like she has there are still chances for her to save her future she has to she can still save her future if she gets her life on track pulls herself up by your bootstraps i don't know but like i just get a job am i right why did you just get a [ __ ] job you know jesus you know he was [ __ ] out you'd think right um no but i i mean obviously there there are plenty of policies that could be introduced that would help drug addicts with getting back on their feet but this isn't a world that we live in i mean i imagine something like maybe a place like california would be the first place to implement something like that but not yet doesn't seem like yeah yeah listen people are giving you our time at the end of the day like two years ago if someone is doing something that's personally affecting you and you know they [ __ ] you over you know you've got no obligation to like do anything beyond you know like maybe give giver the keys for this lockup i guess that'll probably be the only thing um i'm just gonna send them to her and when she's like yeah send them to this place i guess like here's where i'm staying send like mail them and i'll mail it and drop off her cat and stuff that's assuming like like people are so torn on the cat thing i'm giving her the cat like i'm sorry guys if you you [ __ ] mow down i need you to man the [ __ ] up and i need you to commit to a position and make a choice somebody is walking down the street with a group of friends and they're holding molotov cocktails they're coming towards your business are you allowed to defend it or do you need to walk the [ __ ] away make a choice don't pivot and ask me something just walk the [ __ ] away okay then okay then you don't think that anybody has a right to defend any of their businesses and they should all just burn if i just want to burn them why not just say that i don't okay but what if they have pink hair and a meth pipe [Laughter] if you don't like that but and it's your apartment i'm only watching the cat because she wasn't capable of doing so and the cat couldn't stay at the apartment when i brought her over here so yeah yeah i mean i think you know the cat thing i don't really understand if she's not got a place to to stay i don't know what she would do with the cat in the first place so she would need to get a bit more stable before getting the cat i would have thought um yeah i mean that's what i would think too like why is she screaming for it so much right now that's i i understand that she's like mad that i won't talk to her but like she she she knows what's up now like i talked about it on twitter she doesn't need to do she knows what's up i mean she hasn't tweeted in a while so maybe she's done but yeah i mean she might be sleeping i don't know who you know if she's on she's she's probably asleep yeah i mean that's what she said on twitter but i haven't talked to her and i don't intend to i just want her out of my life that's more or less my uh goal and now i can finally get to the to the uplifting part yes story let's go we'll see you lift him apart so i have an uncle back in florida who raises quail or raised quail he had to stop because his job he got a new job and it's too much work he can't be home enough to raise them anymore but raising quail is not exactly hard um and you know it seemed like pretty fun pretty cheap you got free eggs every single day because female quail lay an egg a day and they're these little they're these cute little eggs they're like the size of ping pong balls they taste like a normal chicken egg but they're nice and light and fluffy and um uh i just really like the idea of animal husbandry my plan is to uh go the [ __ ] up to uh probably like i'm thinking north of seattle um or may probably actually south because i want to be near mount rainer i like the big lonely mountain from the hobbit type feel and um i'm also closer to a lot of my friends there a lot of political streamers are obviously up in seattle and everything and so um so that's value plan to get a place there establish a a little backyard quail thing and incorporate that in my content so that's the that's the future that's what we're doing what the [ __ ] so you're going to become a quail farmer and stream about it is it not streaming just quail like the idea that i had would be like uh you know how bo the fifth column does videos where it's like oh he's in a shed and he's talking about some political thing that happened or something oh yeah okay instead it'd be like all right well here i am i'm going full conservative off the grid out of the trail legs feed them and clean out their uh their coops and while i do so i'm gonna talk about politics so uh that'll just like like taking care of the quail will be like the like the sort of foreground content i don't know i think it'll be unique i feel like a little bit of animal husbandry in the political scene could be a little bit of a bit of a unique special thing to throw in there what do you think yeah no that sounds good um it's certainly unique i don't think anyone else on twitch is doing that um yeah yeah it's gonna steal my idea now i mean it's cool it's pretty unique you know people rush she left and took the cash the truth is nero knew about the drugs healing were both making meth together make enough to pay rent because it was filled streaming care then they started fighting over prices and she left and took the cash nice there's on online right now don't you [ __ ] do it i know you you guys have a perfect idea right here don't you guys do it um but no that sounds good i wish you luck with the mate are you going to twitchcon am i going to twitchcon when is it uh 7th of october i think around that time uh honestly maybe yeah are you going to be going there yeah yeah i'm going to be going um i'm doing a face reveal stream and all sorts so it should be it should be good memes if you don't look like your profile picture i'm going to be very disappointed um oh also what did you think of the destiny manifesto um i read a little bit of it and i i actually want to listen to the whole thing because i i want to hear destiny's entire side of everything wow uh regardless of whether or not i i want to hear the his side and his context to everything and uh see see what my opinion is coming out of that could be interesting it's like when you you get like the backstory to a character that you don't necessarily like too much in like a tv show and maybe you come out of that feeling a little differently about them who knows we'll see i'll get my words i'm sure okay sounds good well uh thanks for coming on um and i hope your stream goes later yeah i'm probably gonna have to push it back a little bit because i'm tired of [ __ ] but uh yeah have a great night thank you for having me on i'm sorry if i was a little bit slow talking i've been up all night i was writing out the uh like the basic points that i want to touch on when i talk about this on stream and gathering some of the screenshots and the photos and stuff like that so probably going to stream it either at 5 00 p.m today or at uh 6 00 p.m pst probably have to push it back from three because it's 8 a.m right now and i'm about to get to bed so uh yeah that's uh that's the plan no worries there's not even gonna be anything left to hopefully both catch the coverage later all righty well um we'll talk to you later have a good one thank you for having me on cheers mike goodbye uses wowzas absolutely what's this goal when i talked to like i don't know if i would call an alt-right but for like conservatives or anybody disagree with it i think the goal is to like find them in groups and then steer them towards your prescription i think one of the big problems a lot of leftists or progresses or whatever they are having these days they're not willing to acknowledge what everyone in the 37 20. okay what's this got to do with anything good question pretty sure that dude's trolling like besides that i think like the most well-known he's i mean i wouldn't he does troll he's fairly smart who wait who is that who is lanny in your chat lonnie's my girlfriend oh nice she's a [ __ ] [ __ ] so like she even just did it to me what i just said was that is transphobic um sorry go ahead uh what are we saying oh yeah the infrared guy he's like um he's a he's a character i think that if you catch him being calm you can be calm but he's also somebody that will meme and go big into the blood sports but but he plays like a character so i would never i don't like to argue like that with characters um because then i feel stupid like i'm being sincere and they're just a character so yeah i don't know okay my girlfriend's off limits okay all right um what tell her to stop talking [ __ ] about me then okay sorry god but i can't control her wait i can't then you can't control me talking [ __ ] about her what the [ __ ] i keep listening weird i can't control women i don't have i've already watched this one stop protecting them treat them like equal people all right you say well equal rights equals means equal fights okay um

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Length: 85min 45sec (5145 seconds)

Published: Wed Jul 13 2022