Winchester PDX1 12 Defender (12 gauge) Gel Ammo Test

[Applause] hey everyone ten outdoors nine and today we're testing some 12-gauge this is the Winchester P DX 112 defender two to three quarter inch shell 1,150 feet per second remember that number we're going to come back to that as a reference point in just a moment for those who choose to prefer loading their home defense shotgun with slugs or buckshot this gives you the best of both worlds here's a cutaway and is two and three-quarter inch shell our payload is a 1 ounce foster slug but in front of that you're going to have 3 double-aught buckshot and notice that those are copper plated now packed in between all of that is this matter known as grex GRE X these are plastic granules and this product and it is a product is designed to give you tighter patterns with regard to the velocity 1150 feet per second out of a two and three-quarter inch shell a slug by itself is going to be cranking along in the neighborhood of fifteen to sixteen hundred feet per second and double-aught buckshot in the vicinity of 1,200 to 1,300 feet per second so we're giving up this velocity because of this extra payload in a two and three-quarter inch shell now the pattern itself this represents a four inch group or pattern at 15 feet home defense distance this is what Winchester is saying we are going to see now we're going to do this in just a moment at ten feet so it's going to be a little bit tighter or at least it should be and also these positions ten two and six to seven o'clock we are supposed to be able to see that as well due to this design now at forty to forty-five yards Winchester is saying that this pattern will spread out to approximately fifteen inches the purpose of those opening shots was to show two things one the recoil which is it bad and two the spread or pattern that we have at approximately forty yards now typically I'm not going to shoot one ounce foster slugs even out of a two and three-quarter inch shell at less than 100 yards on two ar500 steel because it will crater I've done that at about sixty yards and I'm not going to do that again so I know it for a fact did not have a problem with these it did not crater it just simply shattered and I took that chance because I knew we had a much lower velocity and we didn't have any problem with that now the pattern what I'm thinking happened here is that this slug carried this pellet that's at ten and a half inches and this one at eight and this one is at twelve senator Center measured from this impact I think this impact of the slug brought that pellet which is at about seven seven and a half inches and this hit didn't put any pellets on there so we put nine pellets downrange and for our own and IPSC target my point with this is it relative to self-defense it's about someone who might try to use this or consider using this for hunting and you do whatever you want the slug is going to be accurate that's fine but they're not going to pack the punch that a typical slug and a two and three-quarter inch shell is going to be carrying by itself and you're really not getting that much of a benefit at this distance with the pellets themselves oh we got a draw I recall correctly this is the first time the block has completely left the table and taking a dirt nap that's exactly what's going on it's a dirt nap because of all the days I chose not to put a tarp on the ground or a drop cloth this is what happens I'm going to get this back up on the table and give you a closer view of the damage there also the pattern at this distance I know you're really interested in that as am i but I want to show you this first because we're going to lose this perspective when I do so that is one of the pellets and that penetrated about 18 inches in fact they would have come all the way out had it not been for the board stopping it so that was a concern of mine I did not see anything out the back that whole by the way that's where I calibrate the BBS I'll shoot those all into one of the lower corners and extract that section to confirm the calibration hey kids introducing the chia pet ballistic gel block hours of fun for the entire family available at fine craft stores everywhere check out that mess and that's going to need a really good cold shower before I get this anywhere near ready for recycling okay let's check out the good stuff the pattern that's at 10 feet with the ball spur 20 inch barrel and just a standard choke Center to Center from each of these pellet openings is two and a quarter inches you can see pretty much a perfect triangle around that massive opening which is the slug obviously and that sound like matter you see on the front of the block is that grex the buffer so let's take this indoors get it cleaned up and start the dissection I'm working with multiple elements here so we're going to have to break this into a few segments and we're testing handgun calibers in this format we typically see a path or track here that's an inch to maybe an inch and a quarter wide okay got that let me zoom in a little bit this is the three inch depth mark right there and this is about seven so let's focus on this area this four inch area right here check out this cavity that's not all of it that's the rest of it underneath there this cavity is approximately four four and a half inches wide got this on the tripod let's zoom in the damage was caused by the slug no doubt about that just that the volume the mass and the energy behind it but if you look closely right here that's a path of one of the pellets and also right here that's a path of another pellet and they are not going in a straight line next just a quick view of the left side of the blog just to illustrate I capture the greatest majority of that cavity on the other side I lost this track at about seven or eight inches because the slug when it went in made a really sharp turn to the right more on that right now here's that big cavity again back to the right side of the block there's a lot of paper other things brought in from the shell now we're at an interesting point here we're at the ten eleven inch depth mark when we have tested foster slugs in this media in this format well before this point they have disintegrated and the pieces have gone their separate directions that has not happened here not yet or will it happen 14 15 16 17 and this turned out to be more of a 21 inch block than 20 inches and we've got something working down in there that is the slug and it appears to be intact and given the actual length of this block that leading edge you can see it turned is coming in at about 19 and a half inches and from this perspective no fragmentation pellet update and I'm referring to the pellets based on their position in the pattern so we found the five o'clock pellet at 18 inches on the bottom of the block and we have another one that left this is the one o'clock pellet it exited the top of the block at 11 and a half inches so it's also off the grid and finally pellet number three this is the left side of the block now it spent much time there pellet came in that's the eight o'clock pellet parallel with the slug slug ventured off to the right this pellet took off like a rocket headed toward the top back corner of the block and there it is at 19 and a half inches slug has had a warm bath everything is nice and clean I have weighed this three times and I keep coming in at one point zero zero two ounces you there's no denying that massive amount of energy transfer that we saw in the first seven or eight inches of this block but we're going to get that with twelve-gauge concentrated buckshot loads and of course slugs as well we've seen that so far in this testing this is where it comes down to I think as the penetration that happened after that initial cavity all that trauma and so forth I do not use a slug in my home defense gun however if I did I would choose something that has a higher velocity and a much better chance of fragmentation we've seen that happen with regard to buckshot I do use double op buckshot for my home defense load but I do not use plated buckshot because of what we had a tendency to see here to me this plated buckshot resembled a full metal jacket in a handgun test where it just keeps on going so I think that's where this comes down to in spite of all the other aspects we saw about this concept which is interesting but that's just how I feel about it looking forward to your comments and just ask everyone to please be civil with each other thanks for watching

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Length: 9min 34sec (574 seconds)

Published: Mon Jun 11 2012