Why We Left BuzzFeed | Kitchen & Jorn

hey buddy hi it's that time of year it's gonna be this is gonna be a rough video i feel like i've spent seven months working my way to get to the point where i can do this video and like even doing it like i think it's going to be hard so yeah uh welcome to the kitchen and drawing trip welcome to the kitchen jordan show and welcome to a time-honored buzzfeed tradition the why we left buzzfeed video i should mention at the top there are some trigger warnings here for suicidal ideation yeah so it's gonna be that kind of video yeah two two two two yeah honestly this is a video that i feel like i need to make just because i feel like it would be important for me to have closure and it's important for me to have catharsis here talking about my experiences is probably the best way for me to feel that way and i will say that like we are taking a risk here it's possible people are going to be like we don't give a [ __ ] yeah but if that's how you feel you don't have to watch it you can click out there we have lots of other videos so first things first uh obviously i am like a white queer fat woman and so my experience as a buzzfeed are going to be through that lens obviously a lot of the stuff i'm about to talk about is not like particularly rosy other people have had different and in a lot of ways worse experiences than me and you should listen to them yeah we just want to like start off this video by recognizing like the fact that we can make this video that we have like the energy to make this video it's coming from like a place of privilege that we have the resources to make this video it's coming from a place of privilege we recognize that and so it's like there are people that are going to be talking about their experiences or things they've gone through and their voices are valid listen to them and we're just sort of contributing so you know where we come from the fact that we can make a video like this and it won't ruin our careers is also a privilege yeah yeah that's the first thing uh the second thing is that um this is a story about jen and i yeah it's not the story of ladylike there is a lot that intersects those two stories uh but the story of ladylike is a story that like all five of us should tell and it's not a story for the two of us to tell yeah so there are some things in this story that are gonna be left out you probably may be able to fill in some of the gaps but i will not be filling in those gaps for you so the third thing is that with all companies culture is set at the top this is every company i worked at buzzfeed for six and a half years you worked there for four five five yeah we don't even know time is just you know yeah not real and whenever we heard that someone was coming out with a ylf buzzfeed video uh we would be like oh man yeah and that's not because we like felt like they shouldn't make those videos or because they were saying things that weren't true but the one thing that would happen is like people would watch those videos and they would get upset rightfully but the people that would get affected by those videos were not the people at the top setting the culture it would be the people like mid-level employees lower level employees producers like people making content were the ones that were sort of getting the fallback and the pushback from those videos because they're the ones that are visible people will get mad at buzzfeed and then just not look at the videos being made by people who work at buzzfeed who honestly don't have a lot of power yeah i would say that if you love creators at buzzfeed the best thing that you can do to help support them is to watch their videos and like follow their instagrams and their twitters and their tick tocks because having a huge base of support and proven numbers gives people the resources and the confidence to leave if your response to this is i'm not going to watch those videos like you're actually going to hurt people that we care about and that who want to have a career after this company for like as much frustration as we may have towards like our former employer like that doesn't mean that people work who work there are bad people and that you shouldn't support them like i still watch buzzfeed videos because like i still like people that make content there and they make good things being able to quit your job is a privilege yeah in order to kind of acquire resources acquire like enough of an audience in order to make the break you you need a lot of stuff yeah and so the fact that like we were able to quit is a privilege yeah so like you shouldn't look at people and be like you still work at best feed why it's like having a media job is a big deal yeah that's health insurance that's stability that's your rent especially right now they want to make stuff that makes you happy so like they they love you so please love them yeah the next thing i want to say is like i was at this company for six and a half years i love this company i love being there i love the people the people are actually the part that keep you there very long yeah because it's like what are you gonna do leave leave your friends no no never it's like that that's the part that really i mean we didn't yeah i know we took our friends with us so we we actually circled not all our friends we still have friends there we still friends it was a hard company to leave like i i loved my job and i gave my job everything this is coming from a place of i think a deep sense of hurt that someplace that i loved so much did not love me in return yeah that's the preambles to my story yeah is it time to begin the story i think so okay yeah i'm gonna tell the story of when it started to really go downhill for me yeah starting in like mid 2016 early 2017. is when we really got put on like a treadmill we were releasing like two videos sometimes three videos a week and if we didn't get that many videos out it was just like more videos it really started when we started the channel yeah and kind of the idea was that we would work really hard on this channel for a year and then magic thing would happen or whatever i don't even know like either we'd get paid more get more resources or whatever um so that's kind of going on in the background i would say like vidcon 2018 is probably when like the suicidal ideation really started for me because we were kind of in a situation where we were just going going going going going and it was like to what end the way that like we were sort of working on ladylike was that there were there was like pretty high quotas and so that meant that you had to be filming a lot and you had to be coming up with new ideas and new content had to be put out and so those demands kind of were rising as time went on but the amount of resources that we were allotted and the amount of faith that it seemed like leaders of the company had in us really seemed to go downhill so you're sort of in a situation where a lot is being asked of you and it sort of feels like the end goal keeps moving further and further away i would say like the second night of vidcon i was just like maybe i just don't want to be alive anymore i am here at this convention i'm here at the thing that i'm that i supposed to have aspired to and i am not happy i am barely hanging on i don't know whether or not this is ever gonna stop and i know that i have two thousand dollars in my bank account so it's not like i can just leave i didn't have any sort of prospects or plans and i also didn't really have the energy to create those because i was so tired yeah i was going through my notes in preparation for this video uh and i found something that i i wrote this was this was december 2018. oh like six months after six months after vidcon i remember i was upset one day and i just kind of locked myself in a conference room and i just was like i need to write out my thoughts i need to give answers about insert project here i need to give answers about insert project here uh my keys are missing i'm not packed my house is a mess i haven't done laundry i don't have the energy to shoot every time someone says to me i know you're working hard i just want to throw them in a lake i'm treading water i'm drowning how am i supposed to be inspirational is this even fun to watch am i even fun i hate myself i hate my voice i hate my face i'm getting older but this is all i have this job is all i have so that was like 14 months before i quit so it's like right after montreal yeah right after montreal so ah i'm not doing good and then in january of 2019 the layoffs happened yeah so if you don't know in january 2019 buzzfeed laid off a large amount of people and it was like very disruptive yeah like it was super honestly i think it was permanently disruptive to the company culture and morale yeah like i think i don't think the company culture morale ever recovered from it a [ __ ] ton of like our close friends were laid off like a [ __ ] ton of people really care about were laid off i already was like barely hanging on and then that happened and then it was like obviously i still had a job so i was lucky yeah i would say that psychologically that kind of messed with me a little bit because it was like i you feel like you're like i'm lucky i still have a job i should be grateful i'm in a better place than a lot of my friends like i need to like get over all of my negative feelings and i need to just perform because it's like yes and me being upset is not worth anything right now i'm disrespectful to the fact that so many people are struggling right now yeah and that's kind of the vibe that some of the leaders had anyway so it was easy for us to internalize it yeah because like obviously we had like so much empathy for our friends so like we were already feeling it and people above us were like you're right you should feel that way not only are you in this like never-ending cycle of peeling out your body and putting it on the internet you need to feel grateful about it because your friends are suffering yeah and complaining about the job you have that is a privilege to have is an [ __ ] thing to do yeah and then that spring a lot of stuff happened that we can't talk about in this video yeah but i can briefly briefly summarize it by saying [ __ ] got worse yeah much worse much worse so then summer rolls around i would say may 2019 i was actually in my therapist's office and she very seriously sat me down and was like you have to take a month off and i was like what i'm like it was around the time when we were we were pitching empty suitcase yeah i can't take a month off like i have to pick a tv show in in the second half of this year like what and she said to me if you don't take a month off voluntarily there may come a point very very soon where you will not have a choice you may reach a breaking point where you may have to be hospitalized i'm worried that you are reaching the point where you're going to have like a psychotic break yeah and that's something she's never said to me before in the 12 years i've known her yeah and i was like what you're like no no i was like i just need to work harder i've been working my whole life to have my own show the empty suitcase show and i finally got it so now i just gotta keep working and then when i finally get that show it will it'll happen lucy will not pull the football out from underneath me this time this is all stuff i said in my head to my therapist i just was like well i'm gonna talk to hr about it we'll see i went to hr and i was just like i need to take a month off and she was just like let's sure let's let's find a way to like make it happen i think like you know because i had a ton of pto and they were just like we can we can figure this out we can figure out a way to make it happen but then that hr rep left yeah because she was sick of it and then empty suitcase got bought and it was like well i did not take the month off it did not happen yeah obviously like the team the empty suitcase team is incredible like there's so many amazing people that worked on it and we love them and you love them absolutely but yeah you you're like i'm not taking the month off i am gonna just work work work this summer so we were trying to pre-pro episodes in europe and obviously we're on the west coast united states and europe is not there so what was happening was i was waking up at 2 a.m and 5 a.m every morning to try and like email and contact social media reps for different stores because if i didn't talk to them at that time i wouldn't get a response for a whole day keep in mind when you're not sleeping and you're making all these calls and you're running around that also was not your main job oh yeah our channel had to be run so basically it was like you were pre-probing the show and at the same time it was like hey you basically we still gotta film gotta give notes gotta like have all these ideas for this channel that's going on in the background and you were not really sleeping and the channel was just like this thing that's going to keep running and running and running ad nauseum and the amount of help we have is like set over the course of like however many years i was making videos there i gave all of myself to buzzfeed i talked about extremely intimate things yeah that i don't own i cried on camera i talked about my fears on camera i got a [ __ ] bikini wax on camera sometimes people would mention to me facts about myself and i would be like how do you know that and then i realized that we'd made a video about it and i'd forgotten about it yeah my whole body and my experiences and myself were real estate for content that i gave willingly because the idea was that eventually there would be some like i don't know reward yeah that would mean or it would mean something yeah it would mean something the other thing that i want to mention is that buzzfeed is a very collaborative environment every time you see someone succeed all your major franchises all your major shows these are made by multiple people yeah not one person can claim credit for any one single thing that comes out of buzzfeed ladylike was like all of us making videos but like we had a team of researchers we had a team of editors like we had people that worked really hard to make stuff and to make it good yeah and a lot of the stuff that like we were feeling and a lot of the frustrations weren't coming from the people on our team like the other collaborators we had we weren't feeling bad because of them and a lot of them were feeling awful because they were stretched super thin because they were working with other teams yeah i think ladylike is actually a good example of this because it's like you know the person who came up with the name ladylike ashley perez someone who literally isn't even in ladylike yeah so like that's the kind of place that buzzfeed is it's the place where like you work together in a team to achieve a common goal but the idea is that you also will be looked out for by your team if bad things start to happen and i don't think that part of the social contract within the culture is being honored and that's not to say it's not being honored by people on our level it's not being honored by people that have power at the company fast forward to fall 2019 fall 2019 we're filming nbc case yeah i get through the first four episodes which were seattle philadelphia charleston and tampa i'm tired but i'm like but i'm kind of like going on adrenaline it's like okay we can do this we can do this we can do this we can do this and then i had a disney world trip that was planned in the middle of it which had been planned a long time ago we actually planned the season around that trip because it was the only time we could film it i literally went from tampa to orlando started my vacation and then had a fun vacation for like i want to say two days yeah and then on day three i woke up and i left the hotel room and i my body fell apart i was dizzy i couldn't stand up i couldn't breathe i was nauseous i couldn't i wanted to be on the ground i thought i thought i was dying and from then on in for the rest of our time every time we left the hotel room it happened again i went to the emergency room when i was in orlando and they were like nothing is wrong with you you're fine it's it's literally just anxiety and i'm like but i'm not anxious my body is just mad i feel fine why is my body acting like we're in an emergency the problem is i was so used to saying out loud i feel fine and ignoring the fact that like i physically wasn't feeling fine and then we got to the second leg of empty suitcase yeah which was hard it got to the point where i was afraid to leave the hotel room but you're having panic attacks i was having panic attacks i was praying i was like please let me be able to stand up please don't be able to talk please let me be able to get through this like we are so far from home i don't know what to do it was bad in dc it was a little it got maybe a little bit better in london but it was still not great by the time we got to greece it was bad the grease episode was probably like one of my lowest points yeah because like in between takes on that episode like i'm literally either on the ground in the bathroom or someone is holding me up the crazy thing about all of this is like as badly as you were doing like mentally and physically that's probably one of the best episodes of empty suitcases so annoying because you're a guy it's like it is it's i mean it's just one of those things where it's like you can't hide that shine god love erica who is our producer with our linebackers our line producer who literally was just like how can i get you through this how can i get you through this and it wasn't that like i mentally wasn't there i was mentally fine i would leave the hotel room and i would be like dizzy nauseous heartbeat panic attack physically like i feel like i was having like just a heart attack even though i wasn't and like we would do takes where i would be like jokes jokes jokes jokes jokes and the second we cut it would be like i'm on the ground yeah i remember like sitting in that bathroom in like the store in the store and being like i'm gonna have to get airlifted out of this country like i'm dying like this is not this can't just be in my mind i've never felt like that in my entire life and it was even scarier to feel like that when i was like far away from home we finally kind of figured it out in scotland i figured out that if i took like a xanax basically every day i would be able to like function yeah i'd be able to like get through it the only person who was in charge of us during all of this who at any point looked at the situation objectively and was like kristen is gonna die was like our boss at the time yeah she came to philadelphia and she was like she looked she she surveyed the situation it was just like this is not sustainable and i at the time was just like we're gonna be fine because honestly in my heart i knew the only way to make it better was to like you know get more resources and like the ship had sailed there was like a time crunch there were all these these deadlines you had to hit you couldn't like take breaks basically if you didn't if you didn't like hit the show on the deadline the show needed to be made the show wouldn't get made it's my dream to have a travel fashion show i was living my dream but i also was like not able to stand up i got back and it didn't go away yeah um in fact it got worse yeah i didn't leave my apartment for like a month yeah and this was before all this before quarantine a very funny joke for me you know i because i was terrified i was terrified every time i would like get ready to leave or i would walk down the hallway of our apartment i'd just be like i can't do this i'm gonna die like a rubber band had snapped in my brain yeah and wasn't fixable yeah and the thing is is that like busting was a company that i was willing to walk into hell for their response to that was like oh can you pick up a couple of things for us while you're there i cared about my show and i cared about my team but the people above way above no one was looking out to see they let me seriously hurt myself yeah they did there's nothing i mean i wish i could gloss around it and be like this didn't happen but this did happen no one was watching no one was paying attention even if someone had really been paying attention to that there was nothing they could do because they were overworked because they were overworked and culture set at the top and the culture is you [ __ ] do it and you don't complain because if you do complain there are other people who wish they had this job yeah and i think that's the thing that broke my heart the most is that i was on a you know buzzfeed is a team and i realize this is naive of me to say but i thought that the big team that was buzzfeed cared enough about me not to let me hurt myself and i realized that that wasn't true yeah this is a really long story a way of saying that like i knew that my time at buzzfeed was probably coming to a close around the middle of 2019 but i didn't know like i literally had to quit honestly it felt like to save my life yeah because it just i wasn't like a person anymore i don't think i really really got to the point where i was like recovered and like able to like leave the apartment without being like stressed out until i want to say like end of january i think it took me two months and even then it was like drugs drugs were introduced uh therapy was it was was intensified i'm doing better now like i'm i'm obviously able to like leave my apartment not that anyone's leaving not anyone can but if you could buy george you'd be out there i'd be out there i know literally as soon as i kind of started getting better it was like go back in i was like okay i don't want anyone else to go through what i went through and if saying what i went through keep someone else from suffering then it was worth it but also at the bare minimum finally saying how i was suffering relieves some of my suffering this feels cathartic to me to finally say this is what was happening to me because i think if you look at all these videos and i'm like i'm happy hi i'm kristen what's up if you touch your boobs no one will pay attention to your feelings i think that like it's important for people to know that like at the same time i was really struggling literally every day i would wake up and i would be like i really wish i hadn't woken up today it was like i have to get in front of a camera and i have to like give a little bit of myself away to a company that i don't think really likes me that much i think that like sometimes not everyone feels catharsis from talking about things like this and not everyone um know necessarily is ready to talk about things like this but i know that for me i'm ready because i think that like now talking about it i can like move forward with my life and i can make cool things and be the person that i want to be and so you want to talk about your story yeah i got hired at buzzfeed when i was 21 and i was like fresh out of college it was my first job and like i was just really excited to be there like i was really really happy and really really grateful that i got hired i loved the friends i was making i loved the work i was doing and i it just felt really exciting and obviously like as time passed a lot of that like youthful enthusiasm and like desire to please uh it just kind of like dissipated and kind of like disintegrated a lot of that kind of came from the fact that when you have a culture a company culture that is like this weird mix of like we're a family we're friends and everybody's helping everybody and at the same time is also very like bottom line dependent and very cutthroat in certain ways it kind of just creates really bad boundaries this is a really good way of putting it as time passed at buzzfeed the pervasive feeling i got was that in order to succeed i would have to like give more of myself and like work harder constantly and what kind of became clear was that that wasn't really necessarily going to lead anywhere you're throwing yourself into this well and you're like you're going to hit water and when you hit water you're going to be fine but what you kind of real what i kind of realized that the well's just never ending so you're just constantly falling there would be people in power that would like tell us you're doing great we love your work we love what you're doing and then there would be people in power that would be like i don't really see the value in this it's not really like hitting its goals it just feels like all the work you're doing is never going to be enough but at the same time maybe it's enough maybe if you just keep on trying if you just rip everything out of yourself and throw it up there maybe at some point you know yeah like i felt i was putting myself forward because i was like i care about this brand and like the people who make decisions and have power like they see that and they care too the company culture already not great combine the fact that like you know we live in a racist sexist society so that sort of adds to like pressures you feel in a workplace you know as time passed i just got really depressed i guess i just felt really really really increasingly depressed and i just i felt really shitty because i felt like i was like not performing well i felt like there wasn't really a point to the work i was doing i felt like i was ungrateful i felt like i was letting my team down one of my big things that i felt was that i just felt like i was becoming a worse person because i felt like i was becoming a really bitter angry person and i felt like i had a lot of resentment towards everybody around me and i felt like that was like making me lean into these really selfish shitty impulses there's still this like part of me that is like very much like if you had just done more it would have worked but it's like that's kind of the message you get though you just need to do a little bit more and then it will be fine but the problem is is that we kept doing a little bit more and it wasn't fine yeah it was like how many times are you gonna yank the football out from underneath us yeah i left because of a lot of things that i can't talk about but i also left because i was really depressed and i felt like i was working at a company that didn't really value me but would be happy to like have us keep working there as long as we were okay with this like unspoken but sometimes spoken thing which is like you can keep working here and we'll keep paying you obviously but you're not going to advance at all but if if you want to keep working really really really hard for not for for for diminishing returns that's cool back when we were starting a channel there were people that had said to me you know i don't know if this is a good idea because you're not going to own it again like you think i'm going to be different and you know i was 22 and i had a [ __ ] ton of student loan debt and i was sort of like i want to work in a place that is stable and the people that have power say they believe in me and so i just know that if i keep working like you know i'll get promoted or i'll keep rising and things will be good another thing that i wrestle with as i talk about this is the fact that i still feel like i was and am in a very privileged position and so i was struggling a lot with like feeling like okay like yes like there are some things about this job that suck but also like i have health insurance i'm getting paid okay like i have friends that i get to work with every day and and so even now like like talking about it can be difficult because i just i don't want to make it it seem like i wasn't wrestling with those things or that they didn't matter because they did it's just like by the end of our time at buzzfeed like every time i felt i filmed the video i just felt like [ __ ] i was like i'm just a fake fraud little [ __ ] you know i was like this doesn't matter like people don't like this content our viewers don't like it like you know our views were going down because we were burned out and a lot of the videos we were making with it just weren't connecting with the audience as much so i was like i'm making [ __ ] that no one cares about i feel like i'm a [ __ ] i'm an ungrateful little [ __ ] for feeling this way at all because i still have a job so i'm just a [ __ ] dumb idiot i was really depressed again i'm on antidepressants now and i'm doing great uh i should have been on antidepressants a while ago take your beds everybody i love meds stick your bed i love prozac and again like i have pretty severe adhd and so that combined with the depression just made everything worse because i felt like i wasn't performing at my job and that was getting reinforced by the message you were getting from company leadership so it just kind of was like you're not doing great at your job and when your job is like part of your job is you being yourself on craig on camera it's like well you when you're not doing great at your job it's because you are a failure you suck like people don't like you you you are terrible and it's like that's not really how youtube works like you can be a great person and your youtube videos can just not do well and that's and that's just like and you can suck and think right yeah vice versa you know it's not like it's not it's not about how good of a person you are but that's that's what it can feel like so i left because i was like hey i'm really depressed and i need to get out of here and also there are other things i want to do you know like so i was like i'm going to focus on you know writing i want to be a screenwriter so i'm going to work on my pilots and then i was like hey i also like want to like keep working with my friends so like we're going to try and figure out like we'll make a channel and we'll you know then the pandemic happened but we were like we're gonna make a channel it'll be great we're gonna launch it in april 2020 that was our original plan was like april 15th tax day yeah that didn't happen i also didn't pay my taxes that day either they got extended though that's fine you know there's always going to be people who hear that you were that you had a bad experience at a company and their response is companies are all about their profit and their bottom line and if things don't go right or if you give too much or you feel like your keyword may be taking advantage of or like things were not going right then that's your fault and that your it's your fault for giving too much and for not getting yourself out and to those people i just kind of say like yeah that you're free to feel that way and believe that way but like at the same time it's like i just believe that we owe each other a little bit more than that maybe in like the most like capitalism type of way you can look at our situation or maybe just in the coldest possible way you can look at our situation and be like you guys were getting paid you got health insurance and that is what you were promised and and so for you to complain what are you complaining about i think that on the one hand yes we live in a society where you gotta work and this is the work we do and you get paid and that's how it works people have it worse it's true yeah and i think that we carry that guilt with us all the time but i also know that like i am a fat queer woman we check boxes and when we check boxes we are benefit we are a benefit to a company i think the quiet part loud was that like the company i think sometimes like took credit for being like look we have these women these diverse women working for us and thriving under us right like there was some clout that came with having people like us working for them right yeah and people like us don't typically succeed in media so the story of like why i left buzzfeed why kristen left buzzfeed like there's gaps in it just because there's some stuff that we can't really talk about but i hope that it like painted kind of a picture of what was going on and like also again we're making this channel because we do like making content and we like making videos and we're excited to like put stuff out there i think we realize how much we like we like making videos again yeah but we just like making them when it's like we own them and like we get a we're directly responsible it's on our terms on our terms i'm just glad that prozac is existing because i really i got to tell you guys i was so depressed i was just like i was just not doing well i hadn't had suicidal ideation to the degree that i was having it since i was like in high school i think also that was why i was like well i'm not in high school so it can't be that bad yeah i guess i'm not closeted anymore exactly i'm a lesbian i'm fine can a lesbian be depressed no impossible only a straight lesbian in high school could be depressed like i just like didn't really recognize what was going on fast forward to now i'm still a lesbian but i am on prozac and i am a lot i'm doing better and so are you and yeah that's that's why we left our old company and after this i don't really want to talk about it ever again yeah no i'm serious uh we i would say that there's a specifically like story that'll probably happen later that will be less about our specific experiences and more about like the world everything that happened but honestly this this is meant to be the last time that we talk about this yeah i don't want to talk about it anymore i know that i have been so happy making videos with you and i think a lot of it is because we just start thinking or talking about buzzfeed yeah like listen guys you know here's the thing like we don't want to talk about it but like click on the video you know what i mean i suffered and i hurt a lot and i was in pain and i cried and i wanted to die and like i i didn't know if i was gonna live and i should make money off of that frankly listen i did the work of suffering i'm the one who should benefit from that obviously buzzfeed gave me incredible opportunities obviously you know who i am because of buzzfeed i had good memories at buzzfeed i liked working there i was there for five years like i liked working there great memories yeah and like again i'm not saying everybody's evil i'm not saying you know pitchforks i just am saying like you know yeah but by the end of our time there we did not have wanted to pitch for ourselves yeah i think we were both i i was i was pretty actively i was pretty actively like suicidal by the end yeah what i am like grateful for is like i'm grateful that there were like some amazing people there that i learned a lot from yeah and i want them to be successful and there are some amazing people that are still there and i want them to be successful you should support them you should support them and yeah just like you know support us too if you want please support us please please please subscribe please subscribe please laugh please clap please please we need to keep affording our prozac no i'm kidding it's fine i do have health insurance everything's good don't worry about us we're obviously really grateful that you've followed us here we're we're super excited to make stuff for you i honestly think that taking an unintentional six or seven month hiatus actually was like the best thing that could have happened to me yeah i feel excited to make stuff again yeah and i feel like i didn't feel that way so yeah oh yeah oh yeah yeah so yeah so that's that's the story we love you we're going to go eat lunch we're going lunch and then we're never going to talk about this again yeah we're not going to watch this again but uh thank you for listening 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Channel: The Kitchen & Jorn Show

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Length: 35min 16sec (2116 seconds)

Published: Fri Dec 04 2020

Reddit Comments

[u/Elephantintheroom1]

Tl:dr?

[u/CelestialEndeavor]

Does anyone know what happened during the times they said they couldn't talk about it?

[u/mtndewfanatic]

While I get the sentiment, watching vids of the creators is exactly what buzzfeed wants. They don’t care WHY you watch, they just need you to to watch to get their revenue. It’s a catch 22. Supporting the creator you like supports the company.

If I’m off base here someone please correct me. I just don’t think the logic works.