- A portion of this video
is sponsored by Salesforce. Watch till the end to learn more. When we think of a high
performance CPU these days, it's all about the processing cores. I mean sure, 5.3 gigahertz
is more than five gigahertz, but if you've only got
four cores versus eight, you're getting left behind. But that's not how things used to be. Just three short years ago, four cores was all you
needed on the desktop, mostly because a single
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invisible hand of the free market thinks that the Ryzen 5 3600
is the indisputable sweet spot. (techno music) It's because it's the
best bang for the buck. Video over. Thanks for watching guys. If you're looking for
something else to watch, keep watching this video. The Ryzen 5 3600 is
currently the number one bestseller on amazon.com with
third gen Ryzen in general, making up seven of the top 10, which is just an
unbelievable coup for AMD. It's a similar story on Newegg
with third gen only eclipsed by previous gen chips
from both AMD and Intel that frequently end up
on clearance specials. But how did these multi-core rising CPUs come to dominate the
market in the first place? To answer this, we have to
go way back to the mid 2000s. The last time that AMD was a
competitive threat to Intel. AMD had the Athlon X2 and
Intel had the Core 2 Duo. And even back then the advantages
of having more CPU cores in those cases, two, were
mostly in making sure that background tasks wouldn't
suddenly spike your CPU and grind whatever you were doing in the foreground to a screeching halt. When Phenom II flopped and
AMD's disastrous FX CPUs failed to provoke a response out of Intel, the industry kind of
settled into quad core as the top of the line
while software continued to play catch up. That meant that despite multi-threading becoming more mainstream as older single core CPUs became obsolete, most software could only
really count on there being two to four cores in the typical computer sold at your local Best Buy. So that is what most
games and desktop software got optimized for. Now Intel kept going
with the easy to produce and easy to remember product
lineup all the way until 2017 when generational
improvements became so meager that something had to give. Enter AMD Ryzen with up
to double the CPU cores for roughly the same price. I mean sure, early software struggled to take advantage of the new cores not to mention AMD's unique core layout, but today this has been mostly resolved and AMD has not only caught up with Intel, but have actually surpassed
them in many ways. Not that it was easy. At the root of the trouble,
was GlobalFoundries, AMD chip production partner
who struggled with 14 nanometer and later 12 nanometer production that led to stability issues
due to poor quality Silicon and even consumers who wanted Ryzen CPU, couldn't always find one on the shelf due to product shortages. Unlike lttstore.com where
you never even see a shelf cause it's online. With today's third gen rises though, AMD has two big things going for them. First, is TSMC's much improved
seven nanometer process. This is big. Well,
metaphorically speaking. While nanometers aren't always relevant, seven nanometer was a major leap forward and provided a much needed
shot in the arm for Ryzen and enabled the second big improvement, the chiplet design that's
used throughout the lineup. Chiplets are Core Complex Dies or CCDs, are made much smaller than
traditional all-in-one processor dies because what they do is
they move all the complex I/O to a separate die all together, allowing AMD to essentially
just produce one type of small CCD and then thanks
to the magic of binning, bundled them with
whichever I/O die they need since they're essentially
the same physical design across the entire product stack. This means that overall
performance, stability, and yields, all improve and the number of core
combinations increases. So a single CCD chip like our Ryzen 5 3600 can have anywhere from
four to eight cores, and those exact same CCDs can
be combined and rearranged in an array of up to eight of them to create up to a 64 core thread ripper. That's very streamlined from
a production standpoint. Now back to the 3600 for a moment though, this is a CPU that kind
of straddles the line between the old and the new with six reasonably fast
multithreading capable cores and with very attractive
price, about $205. Not to mention, that it comes
with a cooler in the box. Although we wouldn't recommend using that if you wanna over clock,
which of course though, you're free to do on all Ryzen CPUs. AMD's older CPUs are still
strong contenders though, so it all comes down to compatibility. No matter what generation of
Ryzen motherboard you have, you can actually run any of these CPUs. So if you're waiting for Zen 3, you can buy a Ryzen 5
2600 and save a buck today with the option of upgrading later on, and the cool thing is it works
the other way around too. If you've got a first gen Ryzen system, you can actually get a significant
increase in performance by upgrading to a Ryzen 5 3600 today, and then just drop it in
with a simple BIOS update. This is a huge advantage for AMD right now because Intel Z370 chipset
actually broke compatibility on older CPUs with their Z490 successor on a completely new socket. So if you're like most people,
you'll probably feel a bit burned about only getting two
generations of compatibility with team blue for all these years, when for the past several years, AMD has done a much
better job of maintaining intergenerational compatibility. By the way, AMD is due to launch
fourth gen Ryzen very soon, so get subscribed so you
don't miss our review. As for the performance of this puppy, well, there's a reason why
our budget 4K video editing PC used a Ryzen 5 3600. Taking advantage of a compatible previous generation motherboard, we got the cost of our whole workstation down below a thousand dollars
and without any overclocking impressed the heck out of Dennis, who usually edits videos on a workstation that costs twice as much. And don't take just our word alone. Steve over at Gamers Nexus found that in general productivity, performance of this
chip is roughly in line with Intel's Core I5, 10600K, a CPU that costs nearly a $100 more and doesn't even have a cooler in the box. And it's no secret that the Ryzen 5 3600 will handle gaming too, albeit
with performance that below, but not far below team blue,
especially at this price point. This combination of
acceptable gaming performance and stellar productivity
has attracted tinkerers, content creators, and of
course thrift seeking gamers. It just straight up is
the best all-rounder, do everything CPU. It's not the you know, star
of the show at anything, but it doesn't have to be, it
can go wherever you need it, and it comes with
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now back to other Linus. Thanks for watching guys. If you enjoyed this video,
hey maybe go check out our most recent "Why's
everyone buying this?", where we focused on TVs and
the manufacturing challenges that they face to bring costs down.
The true "Just Buy It" product.
Because its cheap, overclockable, has more than 4 cores, and gets shit done ;)
Thats why.
I decided to go with the 3600 for my newly completed build instead of my original plan of buying a 5000 series CPU at launch.
I play games at 1440p/4K so GPU will be the limiting factory anyway, so I can afford to wait for 5000 series prices to drop in 6-12 months.
Man i hate the 'why is everyone' 'blanking' about 'blank' marketing bullshit that is all over the place lately.
I will not take this random slander of the Phenom II lineup. Saying it "floped" is doing it a big injustice. Those CPU's were great price/performance parts. And the 6 core CPU's were especialy good value.
Because its a good cpu
I think the main reason why 3600 was a good option is because Intel lower models didn't have hyperthreading which should be a standard option in any CPU imho, in older CPU comparisons you can see that HT can save a CPU from being an useless garbage and poor people like me can definitely use a year or 2 without a need to upgrade, now with cheap i3's and i5's the choice is not that obvious and it all depends on motherboard price and if you want to overclock. Personally I went with 3700x since I want to use it around 10 years and I'm unsure how much new 8 core Zen 2's consoles will affect lower core count CPU's in new PC games.
170 is was such an excellent price especially on sale for 160 and even less at times. Now a days I am kinda sad to see it going for 200 everywhere and still selling out.
Linus: Recommends R5 3600 over pretty much every other CPU.
Also Linus: Why’s everyone buying the 3600?! What?