What Happened At #VidConUS 2017?

in this video I will demonstrate that everything in each sarkeesian says about me personally is not true I attended VidCon 2017 in Los Angeles and I went to meet a group of fellow youtubers who deal with similar subjects and VidCon there were several panels that featured Anita sarkeesian so we thought we would attend to actually hear what she had to say and if there was a question in answer session perhaps we could actually pose some of the criticism to her that we have that she has for years refused to address we arrived ten minutes before the first panel was due to start to find the room virtually deserted so we decided to sit front and center now we understood that this was going to be rather provocative as Anita probably wasn't fans of us so Dave Cullen of computing forever suggested that perhaps if she treats us with respect and professionalism and show some dignity what we could do is give her a standing ovation afterwards to show that we could respect her in turn this of course did not happen instead anita spotted us in particular me singled me out and then subjected me to a torrent of abuse for my name on youtube you get us like this gamers who are making [Applause] our making endless videos I just so after every feminist we had been silent in our seats listening to what they had to say and when she says whatever dude she's replying to me shouting back at her I just want to talk but don't just take my word for it because her audience was made up of a large number of youtubers and they all have their own opinions on what happened I went there to just see Anita talk and not harass her I wouldn't have been lumped in with those people if I knew that there were people there to harass her I wouldn't have been associated with them and and that in that vein of thought I can actually go ahead and let you guys know that I really feel like everybody that was present there wasn't there to harass her now listen I'm not going to go ahead and speak for sargon of akkad I'm not going to say that you know he hasn't said some questionable things about her in the past it doesn't matter how right or wrong he was you know none of that shit is of any consequence the point is that he wasn't there to yell at her he wasn't there to insult her he wasn't there to harass her he was just there to listen to her and I remember sending them a video afterwards I said listen we were there to kind of give you the opportunity that you guys wouldn't give us and that is to listen to them that's what I want to do is to listen to people like Anita that was a youtuber called Bundy King and he's not familiar with my past with Anita because he's only become acquainted with me recently however he has heard the defamatory lines of Anita sarkeesian and her followers which I will address later in this video Anita sarkeesian's public diatribe against me went viral and needless to say I wasn't happy because it broke vidcon's terms and conditions specifically the conditioner don't harass or abuse people so I made a video about it directed to Hank and John Green asking her to be removed from a panel that she was going to appear on two days later which was ironically an anti harassment panel despite the numerous complaints that they received that Anita sarkeesian one of their featured creators used her platform on one of their to abuse an audience member I didn't get a response it was only after Anning sarkeesian appeared on the anti harassment panel that Hank green issued a response on medium.com in it Hank makes some rather questionable and frankly inaccurate statements such as saying that it is openly known that women on the Internet are subject to far greater amounts and intensity of harassment and abuse than men a statement which is frankly factually inaccurate but I'll addressed later on in the video Hank's directly addresses the skeptic community he says there is a fairly prominent genre of social political commentary on the internet that focuses on specific individuals as a path to attacks ideas and build outrage these creators do not violate harassment policies but the result is often that the vitriol of their followers ends up focused on not ideas but on people usually women many people in these communities end up believing the righteous thing to do is threaten harass and DOX the thinkers they are arguing with whether or not this is an intentional strategy to cultivate harassment or an awful side effect the result is some of the worst discourse and most intense harassment on the Internet unlike his previous statements this one is actually half right this community does not violate harassment policies but unfortunately this is the internet you will find in every community people who threaten harass and dogs there is unfortunately very little more that can be done besides condemning and reporting these accounts he continues with this year we had a contingent of attendees some who paid some who snuck in with fake passes I paid I can't speak to anyone else who he who had either been perpetrators of this harassment or had for years watched as the outrage they cultivated resulted in followers Daxing harassing intimidating and even threatening the lives of the creators on these panels this is to my knowledge not true there was no one present at Anita's panel who had been the perpetrator of any harassment or in any way deliberately cultivated followers who would do such a thing in fact I know through firsthand conversations with the content creators that were there they all condemned daxing harassing intimidating or threatening because these things are not only morally sensible but counterproductive to dialogue but unfortunately Hanks defamation of the skeptic community just keeps going he says it is difficult to imagine that this group of people who are aware that their channels have been base camps for years of harassment of some of our panelists did not realize that they're arriving early to fill upfront three rows of the panel was going to be intimidating I'm sorry I'm really going to need a citation on that one Hank because I don't believe you know anything at all about the base camps of the people harassing your panelists especially as you had previously expressed complete ignorance of our channels entirely and I have to say I personally would think that seasoned public figures such as the ones on your panel would be able to be professional towards the audience regardless of the makeup of that audience he then goes on to address what is by vidcon's own code of conduct and Nita's abuse of me during the panel a panelist called out one of the audience members for being someone who has made her life very difficult and wished she didn't have to give an attention because he was a quote garbage human look we don't want our panelists to insult our audience members even when we completely understand that the comment exists in a much broader and pretty messed-up context and if I might interject Hank one that you claimed to have no knowledge of and if you have only spoken to my abuser you only have their words but don't worry I will put you straight in this video even when people have said hateful things that everyone in our office disagrees with we have a policy and it exists not just to protect people of the show but to protect our ability to have these conversations I'm glad you can recognize that Hank do you not think that you should enforce your own code of conduct when one of your paid featured creators abuses from the platform you provided a paying audience member our founder Hank green talked with our panelists and said two things he told her that her comment had violated our policy but he understood that there was a broader context which to be clear we were blissfully ignorant of until this weekend and remain an expert in then he apologized to her for not being more aware of and active in the understanding of the situation before the event which resulted in her being subjected to a hostile environment that she had not signed up for we agreed that she would go forward and continue on as a panelist on a later panel and if I can now give a bit of commentary on this Hank this is insane you admit you don't know what's going on here you admit you have no idea and you admit that Anita sarkeesian abused me from your platform and you allowed her to appear on a panel about preventing abuse because even though she was abusing me you think she is the victim here she is not she is the perpetrator this is in saying why are you doing this as one might imagine this absolutely baffling decision on the part of VidCon and the vlogbrothers was met with incredulity if you are looking for fair analysis and commentary from anyone on YouTube you would probably not be able to find anyone more credible than Philip DeFranco and this is what Philip DeFranco had to say about your decision debate or being critical of someone's opinions that's not always an attack in fact more and more these days I feel like people see criticisms as just hate and attacks on but to say that this man just showing up to see this panel was threatening and harassment I find that ridiculous and I completely concur this is ridiculous this is absolutely unbelievable especially for a man who claims to be coming from a position of ignorance on the subject you did not even contact me regarding what had happened from my point of view you had listened to the abusers perspective decided you agreed with it and then condoned it using VidCon as a platform keemstar the host of the channel drama alert posted a video to you on Twitter that was incredibly salient and explained to you exactly what the dangers of doing this were hey Hank I just want to say man I must think being in your position with all the dramas going on in VidCon right now but as I've been watching the coverage of VidCon for many years now throughout our community I know that VidCon has a pretty good record of eliminating like bullying and harassment at the actual event I'm sure you're already aware of this of what happened with Anita sarkeesian sargon but I mean it's pretty cut-and-dry that Anita sarkeesian Khan's rules on stage on one of the panels at VidCon calling Sargon a garbage human I'm just really hoping from my perspective that VidCon takes action so I can report you know I'm tromler that you know VidCon did the right thing here because if there is no action then kind of puts VidCon in this like you know political stance right a political statement meaning that if VidCon is not fair and open to everyone then VidCon is not for everyone it's not for creators it's only for certain creators with certain political agendas and I really hope that doesn't happen because VidCon has been such a you know thing that people enjoy throughout our community and would hate to have that label so Hank green please take some action so I could say everything was done fair here thanks Hank and thank you for all you do for the YouTube community I truly mean that as we already know Hank agreed that Anita sarkeesian was justified in breaking vidcon's code of conduct and allowed her to carry on with her second panel the second panel featured her and a few other content creators most notably boogie2988 whose rather famous in these spheres this was his opinion leading up to appearing on this panel this doesn't come across like one of my normal videos is because I'm very very anxious I'm very anxious after what happened I've been anxious about what happened three months before it happened I've been anxious ever since so it would be very hard video to make but I I do think it's important I've done the VidCon for four years in a row and I've done panels and signings and I've met a bunch of different people it's one of the best experiences my life this year's VidCon was a little bit different because I went into it very very nervous I was a little bit of social anxiety and that social anxiety got worse because some altercations were happening between the crowds and security so that made me very nervous but what made me more nervous is one of my panels ending cyberbullying and then one of my fellow panelists boogie is of course referring directly to what Anita sarkeesian had done to me and unfortunately on the first day of VidCon something happened that made my anxiety go almost completely out of control during Anita's first panel called women on gaming that panel went very very wrong with some people attacking them during the Q&A section and even during that panel some people who were saying right to the front are people she considers to be detractors of hers and she became so nervous and felt so attacked that she actually called what are those detractors names right to their face I'm sure you've heard about this controversy and because of that I became to be very afraid that if she disagreed with me she might do the same during our panel making me feel very uncomfortable and making the audience feel very uncomfortable and that's definitely not something I could handle and my anxiety got so bad that really up to about an hour before the panel I had every intention of canceling on them but I really don't like upsetting the the VidCon team and I didn't want to have to try to explain all of that to them the reason I was cancelling but why would be doing everything else I did that day and I also thought that could be perceived as an attack and I just wanted to do the panel and I just wanted to hope for the best and hope that everything worked out my anxiety got the best of me and just about every youtuber I know and even some of my fans and even the fellow panelists that I got to spend some time with and even the moderator for the panel I ran by all of my talking points and has do you think this is something that would be offensive do you think this is something that would upset Anita or anybody else in the audience I wanted to make sure to get this right that I practiced and I practiced I practiced and I practiced and I practiced I think we should just pull say for a second Hank do you think it is reasonable for bogey to be this afraid of appearing on a panel with another one of your guests because I certainly don't and the only reason he is this afraid is because Anita sarkeesian can abuse anyone she wants with impunity with your consent you're backing Hank you personally endorse this this is what we said on his panel and I'm sure you'll find it to be highly controversial practice for weeks ahead I think sometimes because we do talk about certain subsets on people specifically people down some people can get the misconception that only those groups of hardened ice ages has the only male of the family I say today's a white sis mail with a person who's in a place of privilege that I understand it some communities had it works but I have trouble really understanding the realism and depth of what we've got I mentioned earlier a few years back we had somebody put that in a shit on my life on the tour number one for 3500 bucks and they said be awake and they deliver the pizzas to my house for the developer there the absurd thing was they had the address wrong they had my friend restless friends and left a box of my house that box had a label and I say disappeared the video so I did call my friend they Jason get out of your house they're going to kill you but what do you talking about I've cinema screen and doorbell rings and dominoes and got real wedding needs to please with that boxes of species delivered to our homes we've had threats in my life my family reason made to feel very very uncomfortable and I don't say this business anyone else or to say that I had the course to make it illegal for me that I do I just want to say that you think it happened to me and I'm coming from a place of privilege I think this could happen to any of them have any of you tears we create tomorrow I think when we move in that misconception I think that we have make sense well it's not work so long it's not person paper color I think when we focus it on the human rights issue not a moment issued on handsome gay or straight issue or a fat person escapers what is a human rights issue that affects us all least of Subway until we can cite resub subsidies that's how you actually could potentially InSAR pool but we happen and I think bookies point was not only a good one and very well received by the audience but it seems to directly answer a question asked of Anita sarkeesian on the previous panel by another youtuber called Joey salads why do they act like only women and the majority the people here are control because they mustn't seem freaked out about [Music] the question is is online harassment gendered and if it is not why is it being treated as if it is and the answer is no online harassment is not gendered at least if the Pew Research Center is to be believed they think most online harassment is directed at men and it seems to be a very strange turn of events that when Joey salads asks the question he is the platformed and when boogy speaks to this question and answered it by saying no it is a human rights issue not a women's rights issue Anita sarkeesian abuses him to a couple more panelists had their closing arguments and then we left the stage and I'm shaking very very nervous but I felt like it went well and when I get off of the stage at the bottom of the panel's there's Anita and she seemed to be very very upset and I don't remember exactly what she said I'm paraphrasing here but she said in a very upset that I think it was very fucking uncool that you said what you said there at the end knowing that no one else would have enough time to respond and I bet you can imagine how that affected my anxiety because the exact focal point of my excited for the entire weekend in fact for the last six weeks the nightmare scenario that I was terrified of actually had come true I upset somebody who I very very much had tried to not upset and did not want to upset and this story is corroborated by another panelist who was there at the time and saw the thing happened I was standing right there Anita came up to him and said you know I am sorry for the harassment that you've gone through but I think that was kind of fucked up what you said at the end of the panel I don't think that we had enough time the last five minutes to unpack that trying to talk about it and I think we kind of fucked up and again I'm going to turn to Philip DeFranco for what I would consider to be the most fair and reasonable assessment of all of the events that we have covered so you're essentially criticizing someone for filming someone as you even said breaking VidCon policy it's a showcasing of actions of an individual it seems a bit ridiculous to me if I go to a markiplier panel and I want to film him because I want to I want to expose what I think are flaws in his open argument and that he at one point says Philip defranco's a little bitch baby that is my filming they can be the bad guy here's what I'll say I'm a fan of VidCon I'm a fan of John and Hank who of course started personally believe this move is weak and I don't agree with it of course I don't run then you say someone and need a violated VidCon policy but you also kind of understand where it came from also adding that one of the founders apologized to her she would then go on to be on another panel where the reports came out later and then he even made a video on it a Youtube brother name of boogie that he was scared of offending her the entire panel and then after the panel she yelled at him and luckily they were able to talk it out but still that is that is an aggressive person he's right Hank she is an aggressive person she appears to be an abusive bully and the thing is this is not a new pattern of behavior for Anita sarkeesian she has power and she will use it returning to your debrief you say what both of these issues have driven home from VidCon team is that people are often bad at understanding their own power we all imagine ourselves to be simply people just another human being among billions with one tiny voice but trolling whatever that is really does drive people from our platforms and end their dreams of being creators a simple stroll through the hotel lobby can really endanger people's safety not only is that also ridiculous but that's aimed at me Hank one of the victims of Anita sarkeesian's abuse and it's highly ironic when you say maybe that is especially true when creators have built a fan base with the kind of inflammatory rhetoric and audience development strategies that can potentially turn their followers into more than just trolls we are all watching as those techniques we're at the fabric of not just internet culture but our whole world we hope that one of the many lessons learned at VidCon 2017 will be that it is very difficult to correctly imagine the power you can have over other people and maybe we will all work harder to understand that in future again this is highly ironic given that you are defending Anita sarkeesian and again don't take my word for it as a straight sis white male I wouldn't know what I'm talking about I'm privileged why don't we ask another feminist of what Anita sarkeesian's power is like personalities have an awareness in popular culture above and beyond their direct audience meaning people have an opinion about them but they've never sat down and watched a single one of their videos all the way through now I have a unique perspective on this whole thing because I have been harassed by some of the followers of both Anita sarkeesian and sargon of akkad what do I mean by harassment I mean a pattern of things that go beyond insults campaigns to discredit me to smear me breath that is a video game feminist called Liana Kerzner I have had two conversations with her which were very polite and very enjoyable and I am sorry to hear that anyone who listens to my channel has harassed her and I denounce it without question this is her opinion on Anita's influence on the gaming industry itself I think it was a gaffe she is not good off script and I'm going to be brutal here but at the end I'm going to say I'm saying this because I'm concerned on multiple levels this is coming from a good place so you feminist frequency people out there who have engaged in your own harassment against me who have gotten me blacklisted in this industry who have basically made people afraid to support me because it crosses your ire and they don't want that they don't want the trouble of treating me like a human being because you have sent up the flares in this damn industry that anybody opposes you is subhuman and bad for women so if you think his behave here is bad you better look in the damn mirror and check yourself because you are guilty of everything that you accuse them of the problem is you are more effective at what you do you actually caused people to be shunned in this industry people the ninety interviews and don't want me covering their product because I am anti-feminist frequency not because people who think you're right but because they're afraid okay everybody is afraid of getting spanked by the feminist frequency paddle because that is a rallying cry to the Twitter mobs think about that think about how you feel right now the next time you try to attack a game because you don't like it make very very very sure that what you are criticizing is actually something that you can back up instead of just something that makes you feel personally uncomfortable that you don't like Hank why do you think she refused to answer this very straightforward question if I could I might ask is for students pacification Juanita [Music] don't have to I'm just curious the various things we can said online over the past few years do you hear leave believe okay amazing to the question like that I'm not harassment automated why wouldn't she just say yes I can't imagine being on a panel and being asked do you believe the things you say and refusing to answer that's worse than saying no it makes it look like she has an ulterior motive and again the criticisms of her are numerous and valid and again I'll refer to keemstar and Leon okay just the consistency sake when they point out why people don't like Anita sarkeesian imagine having radical thoughts and radical opinions and then saying them out to the whole world and then when you're criticized for it you claim that the people criticizing you are attacking you it doesn't matter how hard you try logical people will always win because there's always going to be more normal people where the brains work correctly then crazy fucking people so when the crazy people are saying all this weird stuff the normal people are like oh yeah I don't agree with that and then when the crazy people are like oh sorry what made all your attacking me then even more normal people are like yeah I really I really don't agree with that if you want to throw those punches like you have done to video game developers again and again and again and again and again and if you want to throw the punch of gamers like you and your compatriots have done again and again and again and again and again in order to earn the respect of this industry instead of everybody just being irrationally terrified of how you're going to terrorize their products then you have to show you can take a few hits that's how this works that is what's fighting me that is what being a warrior means it means you're going to get knocked down but you get back up and you know what you can't whine about it because if you really look at it you through the first damned punch you went after Princess Peach you went after Lara Croft you went after Ellie from the Last of Us for God's it like there is no female character in games that you have not gone after and that is your right but you need to understand the deeply personal tender vulnerable relationships the gamers have with those characters and what you call harassment in a lot of cases not always there has been some legitimate stuffs but in a lot of cases these things their harassment are howls of anguish from gamers because you are traumatizing them you are seeing the thing that got them through a painful adolescence is evil and harmful so you better be prepared to take a few blows next I'm going to address the baseless accusations that I am somehow solely or mostly responsible for the harassment that Anita sarkeesian apparently received and that comes from both her her cronies and you Hank the man who claims to know nothing about this and the way you've acted maybe you don't so I will educate you and I will accept your apology Anita sarkeesian began her Kickstarter tropes vs. women in video games in May 2012 and by June 2012 she was already promoting the fact that she was being heavily harassed after complaining at length about this harassment and after being widely publicized by the gaming press she received a massive boost to the amount of money she made with this Kickstarter from the originally modest request for $6,000 to 160,000 dollars again I stress this was done in 2012 and let's just assume for the sake of argument all of this was legitimate harassment and she made up absolutely none of it I could not be responsible for the harassed and Anita sarkeesian received because I didn't make my first youtube video for another year this is something Anita managed on her own she was divisive enough and well publicized enough to not need me at all it is simply not possible for me to be the font of Anita sarkeesian's harassment so you can take that fuck back especially when we go on to what I'm going to show you next these are the most relevant videos I could find on my channel regarding Anita sarkeesian and in none of them do I incite her ass or do anything other than try to dissuade people from doing anything - Anita I want you to watch all of these I will list them in the channel description with all of my other sources and I want you Hank to sit down and watch them if you can find anything in these videos that is not legitimate criticism you can let me know because I know I have done nothing but discourage people from harassing Anita sarkeesian in fact I call her a professional victim because that's how she makes her money here are just a few clips that I found going through these videos to see if there was anything in anything I had ever done the would incite harassment even though she regularly receives donations death threats oh yeah of course the donations come after the death threats she receives death threats from people to image her hang on do you know who the people sending anonymous death threats to Anita sarkeesian ah because I'd like them arrested turn very real when her online attackers published her social security number for home address I have left a link to the FBI cybercrime division please contact them please find the people responsible I don't want any sarkeesian getting death or weight threats either contact them so the individuals can be caught they can be brought to justice and we can all get on with our lives and not only that I have featured criticism by feminists at Anita sarkeesian's work because you will not find someone who will defend her criticism because her criticism is terrible now I actually do have some resumes of a need for pinions myself for example I'm not particularly fond of the way and one of such ruthless - sexist - prostituted women I think that she a lot of times in her series she tend to focus on female characters that can be from white she is not really particularly good at exploring I guess the intersection of how for example a black female character or female character from have another ethnicity might be to have read it differently or exotic liza something like that another person might have that she has relied too much on ropes and ropes are difficult to use and the basis for critique because they have fully defined boundaries and they can be subject to all sorts of different seafood you can argue whether or not something to do counts as an example um and those those are just a few of the things that I have that I disagree with Iran I have even gone as far as to make videos to try and investigate into who is harassing her to find those people so I can stop them because they are as much my enemy as they are hers because they are a weapon she can use against me I don't want to be lumped into the same category as the people who are asking and he sucks easier and you know what you find you'll find what I found she released an entire week's worth of the harassment she receives on Twitter I went through each and every one as far as I can tell it's just kids it's just Call of Duty playing kids who absolutely love her because they call her a bitch I don't agree with it I wish they wouldn't do it what do you want me to do Hank but I very much doubt that these twitchy Call of Duty kids are listening to my thirty minutes plus political videos I would be very surprised if they were interested in my content so let's take a look at the statement Anita sarkeesian made after she abused me this is a statement that you are defending if you are defending Anita sarkeesian this is the statement that informs everything you know about this because you didn't take any time at all to come and talk to me she says to kick off the women online panel VidCon last Thursday the moderator posed the question why do we still have to talk about the harassment of women I replied because I think one of my biggest harasses is sitting in the front row this is not true and I have proven this he showed up with several others together his group took up the front two rows of the panel their presence was plainly not as one of them said later in an apology video he posted to Twitter to give us the chance we never gave them and to hear us out but was instead to intimidate me and put me on edge nonsense she is not a mind reader we know why we turned up we were quite happy to hear her out and instead she took the liberty to abuse me they will no doubt plead innocent and act shocked but Wow they will no doubt plead innocent and act shocked at what they characterized as the outrageousness of such allegations it's only because they are outrageous this too is part of their strategy gaslighting acting in a way intended to encourage me and their other targets to doubt themselves and to wonder if all of this just isn't in our heads but to anyone who examines the patterns of behavior with clear eyes the intentions of their actions are undeniably apparent rather ironic don't you think Hank you know given that she was the abuser here as you have admitted already we have to take up two rows on the right hand side because half of the front row was reserved for people who didn't turn up but I tell you what which is the beginning of the crazy rabbit hole that you have signed off on Carl is a man who literally profits from harassing me and other women he makes over $5,000 a month on patreon for creating YouTube videos that mock insult and discredit myself and other women online and he's not alone he is one of several youtubers who profit from the cottage industry of online harassment and anti feminism together these people have millions of followers who are regularly encouraged by the videos and tweets of these individuals to harass me and other women who make videos daring to assert the basic humanity of women people of color trans folks and members of other marginalized groups this is of course not true you can check this for yourself by simply looking at my channel here is for example the last years worth of videos that I have made apart from this recent kerfuffle I have hardly mentioned her at all as far as I can tell there have been two videos in which she has been tangentially referenced as in she was not the main focus of the video look at all of this this is not about her this is hardly about women at all and it's certainly not about women of a class or anything of the sort this is about ideology this is about political events and this is why I make $5,000 a month on patreon and Anita is so powerful the cheek and merely dog-whistle the amount make a month and suddenly patreon is investigating me over my apparent harassment of her because of this event patreon is investigating me for violating its code of conduct through my behavior at VidCon a representative confirmed to mike because of what happened at VidCon it has been on our radar so we have been looking into it unfortunately for an eater two hours later patreon followed up an email to say that I was in the clear while distasteful definitely not something we agree with sargans content and conduct do not violate our policies she has lied Hank and her lie was an attempt to defund me this is something I could have sued her over but more importantly to me I have a family to support Hank this is the kind of sociopath you are defending do you understand that she is a liar and a bully and not afraid to exercise her power whenever she can and she does not care who she hurts and patreon are supporting me over it even though they say that my content is distasteful and not something they agree with but it doesn't matter than my comm who are apparently Anita sarkeesian cheerleaders they say I have not posted contents my account says November 2016 in addition we've received very few complaints about his page what do you have to say Hank unlike many patreon users who offer exclusive content in exchange for donations I publish my material on YouTube and I keep my patreon clean essentially using it only to cash in if you appreciate my work and would like to reciprocate $1 a month on patreon is the best way I write on my page offering no rewards because I'm not trying to incentivize people through other no means I find distasteful I don't want to try and bribe them into supporting me if they think I make good content they might choose to donate $1 and thankfully 2500 plus people do because I work really really hard interestingly I think me suck easing is confusing me with Thunderfoot who still does on a regular basis this make debunking videos regarding her assertions I'm personally not really interested in anything NEET has to say because she has been real - not to know what she's talking about years ago this is not interesting to me this is pointless to me nobody thinks she's right nobody thinks she's telling the truth but I suppose someone has to do it I'm not going to say there's no value to the work he does and just to be completely clear Thunderfoot is not in favor of harassing Anita sarkeesian either he also actively discourages it so don't even think about shifting the blame getting back to Anita's statement that again I remind you you clearly must agree with if you think that she's right and I not without having spoken to me because of the constant flood of threats and harassment I have received over the past five years again I've been doing this for about three and a half years simply for being a woman who argues for the basic humanity of women in a deeply misogynistic culture do you honestly think in the West we live in a deeply misogynistic culture I mean that is an insane statement no one is arguing against the basic humanity of women but that's what you must believe Hank that nonsense is something you must believe but against better I went for a very long time really participating in public conversations being the target of cyber mob harassment is a traumatizing experience the harasses seek to deny this one of their tactics is to dismiss the very idea to say that everyone online is treated the same everyone gets called names sometimes well I've already given you the proof of that so we'll carry on in fact there is simply no comparison between being occasionally mocked or insulting online as a male anti-feminist to occupies a position of power in an overwhelmingly sexist and patriarchal culture and being a woman who receives a neverending torrent of abuse whilst fighting tooth and nail to create an online culture that is a little less misogynistic and a little more equitable paranoid nonsense men get more abuse this is a matter of fact she is wrong you are signing off on something that is wrong you are just factually incorrect you're gonna have to make into the fucking retraction let you did with that crash course environment one Hank don't think I've forgotten that buddy boy get your shit in order she essentially repeats talking points that I have already debunked in this paragraph so I will skip to the coup de Gras the absolute pinnacle of stupidity that the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life now he and his followers are acting is it me publicly calling him a garbage human is the equivalent to what he has done to me oh no ha no no no no no no what she's done is way worse I've never called her a garbage human I called her exactly what she appears to be a bully an abuser all by your admission John in truth he and his followers cannot begin to imagine what it is to constantly have to beg for and fight for your basic humanity and a culture that fundamentally refuses to acknowledge it she thinks we live in a culture that does not accept the humanity of women he cannot imagine what it is to spend years and years being the target of floods of harassment and hate despite the fact I am the targeted floods of harassment and hate often generated by Anita the companion of his who made that apology video I referenced earlier also tweeted that women are powerful enough to deal with things like the workplace harassment to rape as if power is in accepting a culture in which women are second-class citizens Hank seriously think about what she just said that she thinks women are second-class citizens in Western countries she's on a panel with all women speaking down to an audience that contained a large number of men who feel utterly marginalized by her and she's saying women are second-class citizens this is the most insane misrepresentative and outright paranoid thing I can imagine and you're signing off on it Hank do you think women are second-class citizens I would love to hear your thoughts on it please give us a statement on whether you think Anita sarkeesian is telling the truth or maybe just maybe she's crazy why do you think someone got up and also look do you believe the things you say I think at this point I have categorically proven my points but I'm not done because I predicted all of this in advance because I know exactly how these bullies operate this is a clip from a very hungover interview I did with journalist Tim pool about what I thought was going to happen at VidCon is this you know you're coming here to set people up patrol their more illicit emotion but maybe I mean I think our very presence is in June I don't think they do anything to do that there's just the fact that we are here is going to annoy me enough because I think they'll view this is that domain you shouldn't be in it a traffic it so we deserve then also like that well I mean you we've seen in this fighting with you know sjw and edge of where you're at holiday I know the strong possibility they might go to the organizers and to hey these guys are not seeing these guys are dangerous we don't feel safe things like that I've been focused and I'll certainly recorded baby I think it's worth you being document because obviously don't be a lot I really like so is there any seriousness yeah coming to VidCon is there any real value outside of the and again until there are you know be interesting please connect with people and I mean it's nice that because we all know each other online none of us man you know actually meet those people looks like and that's the point of it right so so you're actually could have a normal Vic time we are actually here legitimately for legitimate reasons and it's probably going to get blown out proportion and it absolutely was but I'm not surprised because blowing things out of proportion is how these people pay the rent Tim also informed me that there had been some rumors going around that I had been the one who attacked her by storming the stage and abusing her despite video evidence to the contrary so what was the legit somebody friend of mine who's a sneaker admit can't told me she asked me said hey did you hear there are a bunch of guys who showed up for women's panel and started like yelling at the women and I was like why are you talking about I'm a Sargon thing and she said something like Parkinson or Sargon I think just making starts accusing and start on up right and I was like oh yeah apparently he sat down in the front row and she yelled at him and then my friend was like no I heard that he yelled at her and I said no apparently she's probably a shit had garbage human and he's an item on top and she was like I don't know I heard he was yelling at her and after being graciously invited on to his podcast at the last minute I told Joe Rogan that after this podcast you would see a spate of articles painting me as the aggressor and her as the victim there's a narrative going around the progressive journalists that has already been debunked by an actual journalist called Tim pool and the video evidence of the event that I personally took that I stormed the stage and started screaming abuser they're saying that they'll probably who sang journalist and like the actual journalists like a lot of an actual art well Nizam made a miracle that said there probably aren't any yet but bet you tomorrow going on there are articles about me and some them will say something like I abuse though imagine my shock when that's exactly what happened from the polygon article sarkeesian says that it's clear that I and my entourage emailing my friends were there to intimidate her he had come with several others and together they took up roughly the first two rows of course he wanted to be seen and I knew because he was filming the panel he would use it to harass me and potentially drive harassment to my co-panelists so I used the first question is not tuned T to let him and the audience know what was happening if individuals like anita sarkisian can stand up to such aggression why can't these huge and powerful organizations the answer is of course because we're not violating any of their rules Anita sarkeesian lives in a delusional fantasy land and uses this to gasp like everyone around her and uses these publications and the feminists that print these articles to defame and lie and bully anyone who dares contradict their narrative and you might think well you're just doing this because you hate feminists you couldn't possibly get along with a feminist you've disagreed with in the past you couldn't possibly accept I can this is popular internet feminists Laci green and that's me with my arm around her after she had been crying on my shoulder we met outside a bar with other youtubers and I apologized her not because I'm responsible for harassment which I don't believe I am but I had said things that I regret it they weren't very nice I have been mean to her on a personal level that I wasn't happy with and the thing is I can understand that from her perspective it might well look like I am responsible for this but I'm certain that I'm not but just in case there were some people who somehow misinterpreted any of my videos to think that there was any chance I wanted any of them to say anything to her on my behalf I apologized and it was actually freely touching an emotional moment and I'm I'm not going to go to the details of the apology because it was a personal apology from me to her but this is her video that she puts on Twitter after it and I think you'll be able to judge the tenor of the exchange that we had and I now find myself very well disposed to her everyone thought this was probably better suited for a short video rather than a stream of tweets I know a lot of you saw a picture that Carl a case Aragon posted last night you may or may not even sit at the picture I look like a fucking hot mess and that's because I was a picture was taken after you know about 15 minutes of crying and hugging and talking in the street on a street corner with Carl and you know I know people have a lot of strong feelings about Carl people are aware of how she has treated me in the past and for me like in the whole anti seeing all these communities I would say that Carl is a person that has contributed the most to my very human pain I think that you know mistakes were made and last night we finally talked about them in person and I was just it was really powerful intense night for me because this is something that has I've held on to you know some of the things that he said about me the way that he's treated me have been really hurtful and last night you know he held me and apologized told me you know why he was sorry demonstrated a real understanding of the pain that he had caused me and a willingness to stop doing that kind of shit and for me you know I meant a lot and you know I'm working on repairing my relationship with him having a relationship with him that's more healthy you know we're not going to see eye to eye and you know he may do stuff in the future that I disagree with you know the fact that he was able to do that in such a pot in such a genuine authentic way and also apologized on Twitter having you know a moment of self-awareness about some of the other pain that he may have caused other people in the community you know Anita specifically I think was a really pretty solid good-faith gesture and you know that makes me really happy but more than happy it makes me feel like I can smell good that's a baby it makes me feel like I can heal forgive move on and I don't expect anyone else to feel that way I'm not you know reconciling with Karl as a reconciliation between feminism and anti is a recognition between a reconciliation between two human beings for me and me alone and you know anyone who's going to freak out about that extent of your business how I handle the ways that I've been treated online it's none of your business you know how I go about that and how I try to move forward for me in my life forgiveness is very important it's central to Who I am it's central title in my life it's central to my mental emotional health in my happiness in this world and I needed to be able to forgive him and he finally gave me what I needed to start doing that and you know we sell a lot to talk about and you know a lot of things I'm excited to talk about because we have very different perspectives on things but yeah I just wanted to give a little bit of context you know a little bit of my thoughts on it and people are already you know I received my phone blew up this morning with all the feminist folks been angry about it and you know what they're entitled to their anger they can feel however they want to feel but for me right now this is about my pain in my experience and being able to move on and forgive that's you know me it's just me so you know Laci green is not an abusive person to the best of my knowledge I've never seen her do anything like a neat sucky isn't it done and I guess when you're a culture warrior like me and Anita it is hard to humanize the other side but I'm willing to make the efforts which is why I went to her panel I was hoping that we could talk that maybe we could do what I tried to do when I was drunk and I have my Twitter account hacked by someone and again thank you to keemstar helping me to get that back and I was feeling contemplative and I thought you know I'm happy to extend an olive branch we're both in the same area maybe maybe we can do the same thing and so I tweeted out her from a second account because I was unable to get back into my first it occurred to me that this account wasn't blocked and so I tweeted out of it I learned from Lacey that some people who said they were my followers did horrible things if the same happened to you I am sorry Anita because I am possibly the world's softest drunk and even my worst enemies can become my friends naturally I receive no reply this is a piece of artwork done by an artist called Brent cherry this is what this looks like to us Anita sarkeesian seems like a tyrant she seems to have surprising control and power she's protected by the institutions that give her a platform with which to abuse other people and the men in the audience didn't see this coming we thought she was going to just comport herself like an adult like she was reasonable it was the women in our audience so accurately portrayed here based mama and Barbara who just fuming aunt Anita and they have got many many reasons to be angry with Anita sarkeesian and among those reasons is the fact that an eater is given a platform to abuse people that they care about and you're standing behind it you're on the wrong side of this issue Hank we have done nothing wrong Anita has done much wrong and eventually it's going to catch up with her think about how that's going to reflect on you and VidCon and just finally going back to your debrief you say this is a difficult situation to build policy to alleviate but we ask all of the people involved consider the power of our actions and statements both online and in the real world the one more specific note if people attend vidcon's collects footage to later use in videos that criticize not just ideas but focus the outrage of their followers on individuals they will not be welcome back you have defined this inaccurately throughout your statement to your own admission that you're ignorant of what's happening and you don't really know the genre you don't really know what's going on and yet you are trying to gag us to protect Anita sarkeesian from the ridiculous things that she has said I and my friends I imagine will be trying to attend VidCon next year and I think that you should consider whether you let Anita attend next year because she is the one running around abusing people not us we are actually here to build bridges [Music] if they wanna know [Music] [Applause] [Music] and if you wanna change the awkward and big if you wanna break fight a right here [Music] you love [Music] he loved [Applause] and you love [Music] kill of [Music] everything comes then pieces [Music] [Applause] you're where you really did [Music] all that your [Music] the nagging and the shore and because this [Music] every phrase on to [Applause] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] my head is made up of pieces [Music] yeah yeah can't be see-through [Music] now our they think [Music] people the name you might they been and because this [Music] but make the hides and care [Applause] let me to start in two areas you're better than that [Applause] 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Channel: Sargon of Akkad

Views: 1,354,401

Rating: 4.8910036 out of 5

Keywords: interesting, funny, comedy, hilarious, current events, politics

Id: -Vyvv7P6Ldo

Length: 65min 58sec (3958 seconds)

Published: Thu Jun 29 2017

Reddit Comments

[u/supershitposting]

"I'm not a fan of video games"

"I had to learn about video games in the process of making this"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afgtd8ZsXzI

I remember two years ago while her kickstarter "promises" were going nowhere and she'd been irrelevant since Goobergate, she complained about the "violence" in the DOOM game Bethesda showed at E3 2015. Her mouthpiece "Johnathan McIntosh" who complains about the internet connection in a luxurious island neighborhood also complained about the "violence" in a fucking DOOM game.

http://i.imgur.com/eZgZYIE.png

Complaining about violence in a video game? These people really do love the 90s.

[u/poison-fang-blade]

Anita Sarkeesian

Gaming Critic

kek

[u/SentientKayak]

She interrupted JoeySalads during his question then kicked him out and after the panel was done, she bullied Boogie. Boogie and JoeySalads are bitch YouTubers in case no one knows what I'm talking about.

[u/TheBrendanReturns]

Anita literally became rich by lying to a bunch of angry women about video games, and that she was going to do a series about them.

What was it? Like 100,000 per youtibe video, she made in the end. And hardly made anything.

Those videos contained lies and no objective criticism.

But she is super famous and rich. She is a joke.

If she wasn't fuckable, these bellend men who have never fucked before wouldn't act like she had anything decent to say.

[u/JavierCulpeppa]

Honestly they're both shit-stirring contrarians. Pretty lame that Vidcon took her side, since she blatantly broke the rules. But honestly who cares.

[u/MessedUpPro]

Oh man, this shithead? I disagree with pretty much everything Anita does, but Sargon is absolutely a shithead too, and despite what he may try to convince you of, he was absolutely there to intimidate. If he wasn't trying to get noticed, he wouldn't have gotten into the hall early enough to get a front seat. That's the act of either a big fan, or someone trying to intimidate. It doesn't take a genius to know that if one of somebody's well-known critics comes to a panel and sits directly in front of the panelist, then that critic is very likely trying to throw the panelist off.

Both of these garbage humans are at fault, and they can both just throw jabs at each other all day. In the end, they are both shitheads and don't deserve any of my attention, nor anyone else's for that matter.

[u/Machinevartin]

So now every monkey can be video fames critic.

[u/[deleted]]

she is retarded,

[u/thebustah]

This was recently spoken about on Joe Rogans podcast. It's crazy how much she and the person she is referencing hate each other.