PRESIDENT BIDEN TO BE THERE AS AMERICA'S LEADER. BUT FROM A
POLITICAL STANDPOINT, WHAT IS THE IMAGE HE'S TRYING TO
PROTECT EXCUSE ME PROJECT AND HOW IMPORTANT IS IT? IT'S
REALLY LOOK, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT REALLY IS
A STRUGGLE FOR DEMOCRACY. I THINK AND WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT THIS BEFORE. THE MORE HE CAN GET OUT THERE. EVERY TIME
BIDEN GETS OUT AND SPEAKS. >> PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH, HE SENT
A PRETTY GOOD. I MEAN, THAT STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS WAS
EXCELLENT. WAS 7 SAY IT SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD AS ANY NOT TO.
AND HE WAS SO GOOD. IN FACT, THAT TRUMP WAS LIKE HE'S OUT
DRY. YOU KNOW, REMEMBER THAT TRUMP WORLD WAS PUTTING EVEN
LIKE CONCEPTUALIZE IT. SO YOU NEED TO GET OUT THERE THIS KIND
OF THING. IT'S GOOD. HE DID THIS BEFORE THE MIDTERMS AND
YOU'LL REMEMBER A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA WERE LIKE THIS
DOESN'T WORK. PEOPLE DON'T VOTE ON DEMOCRACY. AND IN FACT, IT
WORKS REALLY WELL. SO I THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD. ALSO, D-DAY
IS REALLY IMPORTANT. MEN, YOU KNOW, WORLD WAR 2 WAS ONE
OF THOSE SORT OF, YOU KNOW, SPAT THE THING THAT SORT OF
CREATED AMERICAN DEMOCRACY IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND ALSO NATO. >> OKAY, THAT'S KIND OF THE
THING RACES TO THE PRESIDENT IS THERE MARKING D-DAY BUT SORT OF
STANDING ARM IN ARM WITH THESE OTHER WORLD LEADERS. DO YOU
THINK IT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL OR THEY'RE THEY'RE THERE HITTING
THE RIGHT TONE, RAISING THE ALARM THAT THIS IS A BATTLE
ACROSS THE WORLD AGAINST THE RISING AUTHORITARIANISM.
THAT THREAT IS REAL. >> WHEN I WORK WITH LIKE A COP
AND YOU MENTIONED HIS PIECE AT THE TOP, THIS QUESTION, ALL.
YEAH, THIS QUESTION ALL OVER THE WORLD ABOUT
AUTHORITARIANISM WHICH HAVE HAPPENING TO THE CONVERSATION
ABOUT DEMOCRACY. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT IN ALL THESE COUNTRIES AND
ALL THAT SORT OF WORLD SYSTEM THAT WE'VE BEEN USED TO IS A
BIG ONE. AND WHAT'S REMARKABLE ABOUT THIS TO ME IS I THINK
THAT YOU PUT THOSE 2 THINGS BACK TO BACK. THEY SHOW JUST
HOW DIFFERENT BOTH OF THESE CANDIDATES ARE RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT. YOU KNOW, AMERICA, I TALK A LOT OF VOTERS HAVE YOU
ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND OF AMERICANS ARE. I'M KIND OF SAD
AND FREE DOUBT THAT I FEEL CONFIDENT AND GOOD ABOUT BEING
AMERICAN AGAIN. THEY DON'T FEEL THAT RIGHT NOW AND IT TELLS
THEM THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT BY BUILDING UP FROM WHAT WE'RE
USED TO AS A COUNTRY, THE FOUNDATIONS THAT WE HAVE
BUILDUP GOING TO GO TALK TO NATO AND TO REBUILD THOSE
ALLIANCES ARE GOING TO HAVE A COUNTRY THAT YOU'RE USED TO.
AND TRUMP'S ARGUMENT IS WE'RE GOING TO TEAR ALL THESE KINDS
OF THINGS DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, PROSECUTE DEMOCRATS DO
POLITICALLY MOTIVATED JUDGE JUDICIAL THINGS DISH. THE DIFFERENCE IS SO
STARK AND IT IS REMARKABLE TO ME JUST HOW CLOSE THE ELECTION
IS WHEN YOU SEE HOW DIFFERENT THE 2 GUYS ARE IN THE 2
MESSAGES THEY ARE. >> HOW DIFFERENT THEY ARE AND
THOSE MESSAGES, THOSE MESSAGES THAT DONALD TRUMP IS PUSHING ONE WOULD THINK ARE WILDLY
UNPOPULAR. SO WHO IS HE SPEAKING TO AND WHY IS IT
STICKING BECAUSE THEN YOU SORT OF SUPER-WEALTHY SAID THAT'S
GETTING EXCITED ABOUT HIM. THAT'S ALL ABOUT TAX CUTS AND
DEREGULATION. THEY CANNOT BE DOWN WITH ANY OF THIS. >> A LOT OF THESE REPUBLICAN
POLICIES ARE NOT SUPER POPULAR BUT THEY ARE. YOU KNOW, LOOK,
WE WE LIVE IN MEDIA BUBBLE, RIGHT? THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH
MEDIA, THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA THAT'S GETTING TO A LOT OF THE
PEOPLE IN THE UK. >> ALL RIGHT, GLENN, LET'S TALK
ABOUT WHAT DONALD TRUMP AND HIS ALLIES ARE DOING. TALK TO US
ABOUT THIS REVENGE MISSION. RAY STEVE BANNON SAYING THIS IS
A MOMENT FOR OF SKEWER REPUBLICAN PROSECUTORS TO MAKE
A NAME FOR THEMSELVES AND GO AFTER DEMOCRATS. >> YOU KNOW, THE REPUBLICANS
ARE DISTINGUISHING THEMSELVES AS THE PRO CRIME PARTY, PLAIN
AND SIMPLE. WHEN YOU SEE HOUSE SPEAKER MIKE JOHNSON, YOU SEE
REPRESENTATIVE JIM JORDAN AND HIS WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT
COMMITTEE. I MEAN, WHAT THEY ARE DOING, AT LEAST THAT THIS
IS THE WAY IT LOOKS TO THIS. ALL PROSECUTOR IS THERE
INSTRUCTING JUSTICE. THEY'RE OBSTRUCTING PROSECUTIONS,
DONALD TRUMP FOR POLITICAL ADVANTAGE. THEY'RE DOING IT,
WHETHER THEY'RE STATE COURT PROSECUTIONS, WHETHER THEY'RE
FEDERAL COURT PROSECUTIONS AND I WISH SOME PROSECUTORS WOULD
ACTUALLY RISE UP AND BEGIN TO CALL THEM OUT AND HOLD THEM
ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT BECAUSE THEY SEEM TO STAND FOR NOTHING OTHER
THAN JUST A NAKED POWER GRAB IN THE WAY THEY PERCEIVE. I THINK
THERE CHANCES OF RETAINING POWER IS TO MAKE SURE THEY
NEVER DRAKE FROM DONALD TRUMP. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I
HOPE IT COMES BACK TO HAUNT THEM COME NOVEMBER. >> AND IN MOLLY'S CORRECTLY,
IDENTIFIED MEDIA BUBBLE BE D*****. LET'S ACTUALLY TALK
ABOUT THE TRAINS BECAUSE REPUBLICANS ARE ARGUING THAT
THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IS BEING WEAPONIZED. BUT IT IS THOSE
VERY REPUBLICANS THAT ARE OPENLY ADVOCATING FOR
POLITICALLY PERSECUTING THEIR OPPONENTS AND AT THE SAME TIME,
WELL, DONALD TRUMP JUST TRIAL. GUESS WHO ELSE IS THE
PRESIDENT'S SON AND NEW JERSEY SENATOR BOB MENENDEZ, LIKE AT
THIS VERY MOMENT, WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? HOW LOCAL ROUNDS CAN
REPUBLICANS SAY THIS? YOU KNOW, SOME TIME TO COME ON YOUR SHOW,
YOU THAT IN THESE REALLY. >> WHAT YOU REALLY IT'S A
DIFFICULT CHALLENGE YOU TO ANSWER TO YOUR DATA IF WE KNEW
THE ANSWERS AND PEOPLE WOULDN'T HAVE YOU. THESE QUESTIONS ARE
JUST LIKE STRAIGHT UP POLITICS. MOST OLD-SCHOOL, BORING
POLITICS YOU CAN PACK. THINK OF WHEN YOU THINK OF A PERSON
SAYING THE JUDGE THAT PROSECUTED IN MY CASE, THAT
JUDGE IS OF IS A BAD JUDGE. BUT THE JUDGE THAT IS GOING TO
BE GOOD RULINGS IN FLORIDA, FOR EXAMPLE, OR THE JUDGE THAT
PROSECUTING THE CASE AGAINST HUNTER BIDEN OR THE JUDGES TO
THAT, THAT THOSE ARE GOOD JUDGES. THIS IS JUST BASIC
POLITICS AS IT GOES LIKE IT LIKE THAT. HE'S IT AGAINST ME.
IT'S BAD. IF IT'S AGAINST THEM, IT'S GOOD. AND THAT'S ALL IT
IS. IT'S THE MOST DIRECTING EVER SEEN AT LEAST IN THIS
CYCLE. IT'S IT'S JUST SUCH A OBVIOUS OBVIOUS POLITICAL PLAY. >> SO SO THE WHOLE STEVE BANNON
ARGUMENT IS A WELL, YOU JUST OPEN THE DOORS THAT IF YOU'RE
GOING TO DO THIS TO TRUMP, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS TO YOU.
WHAT THE WHOLE THING IS RETRIBUTION MIGHT THAT. >> THE IDEA IS YOU ARE NOT A
LOT. YOU KNOW, IF YOU TRY TO DO THESE PROSECUTIONS, WE WILL GET
BACK AT YOU. YOU NEED TO BE AFRAID OF REPUBLICANS AND LOOK
AT THE WHOLE PARTY IS BASICALLY ABOUT TRUMP'S NOW. I MEAN, LIKE
NAME OR REPUBLICAN PLATFORM LIKE THIS ONE OF THE TENANTS OF
THE PARTY NOW. WELL, AND I STOPPED. YEAH. >> WELL, IF YOU ARE IN THE IN
THE TRUMPS NEAR YOU NEVER DOING MAINSTREAM MEDIA. SO NO ONE IS
GOING TO LOOK BACK AT STEVE BANNON AND SAY, WELL, WHAT
ABOUT BOB MENENDEZ? WHAT ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN PUBLIC? THIS IS
ALSO >> VERY DANGEROUS. AND YOU WANT
TO THANK YOU COVER AS REPORTERS TRIED LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE
THINGS THAT BIND US TOGETHER AS A COUNTRY. AND WE TALK ABOUT
THIS IDEA OF ATTACK. CAN YOU SHOULD GET JUDICIAL SYSTEM TO
SAY THAT LIKE IT'S JUST FAKE MEAN THIS IS THIS IS WHAT
THEY'RE SAYING WHEN WHEN SOMEONE SAYS, LOOK, YOU ELECT
ME ALL PRESS YOUR THAT YOU HATE AND IT WILL GET THAT JUST HOW
IT WORKS. AND IT AND THE PRESS TO ME, IT'S FAKE. IT'S FAKE.
THIS STUFF HAS REAL IMPACT ON THE LINE, RIGHT? IT IS POLITICS
RIGHT NOW. IT IS. PEOPLE ARE MAKING BETS THAT THEY CAN SAY
THESE THINGS AND GET VOTES AND GET JUST ENOUGH FOR THOSE SWING
STATE VOTES TO WIN. BUT THERE IS A LOT REALLY SERIOUS,
LONG-TERM IMPACT. DO YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR WE TAKE WITH THE
IDEA OF THE COURT SAYS BEING REAL? WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT
HAPPENS AFTER THAT. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I AM WATCHING SO
CLOSELY. I DO MY REPORTING. I TALK TO THESE VOTERS WHO
REALLY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE STATE OF AMERICA. THE GOVERNMENT TELL THEM THAT
THIS WHOLE OTHER CHUNK OF IT IS NOT WORKING IS ALSO FAKE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS
FOR THE NATION'S SORT OF LIKE HEALTH IN THE LONG TERM WHEN IT
SORT OF USE REMINDER OF HOW EXTRAORDINARY IT WAS THAT A
WEEK AGO. >> 12 ORDINARY NEW YORKERS TOOK
ON THE BRAVE, BOLD AND DIFFICULT TASK OF SITTING ON
THAT JURY AND CONVICTING DONALD TRUMP AND HIS. NOW TODAY WE
LEARNED FROM AXIOS REPORTING THAT TRUMP TOWER WAS ALREADY
TALKING ABOUT THIS IDEA THAT THEY WANT TO THROW DA ALVIN
BRAGG IN JAIL. WHAT DOES THAT SAY TO YOU, ESPECIALLY WHERE
DONALD TRUMP WAS IN 2016 TO WHERE HE IS TODAY? >> IT SAYS THE REPUBLICANS ARE
THE PRO CRIME PARTY. YOU KNOW, IF I AM THRILLED THAT NEW YORK
STATE JURISDICTION DECIDED TO DO THE HARD WORK OF HOLDING
DONALD TRUMP ACCOUNTABLE FOR JUST SOME OF HIS CRIMES AND
THESE ARE CRIMES THAT WERE DESIGNED TO GAIN UNFAIR
ADVANTAGE IN THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. AND WHAT
DID THEY GET? 4 IN NEW YORK? WE HAVE JURORS WHO ARE BEING
DOCKS. WE HAVE WITNESSES OR BEING SWATTED. WE HAVE JUDGES,
FAMILY MEMBERS AND PROSECUTORS BEING PUT IN HARM'S WAY,
INCLUDING BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WHO WANT TO, AS YOU SAY,
STEPH, GO AFTER ALVIN BRAGG FOR SIMPLY DOING HIS JOB. AND, YOU
KNOW, THE ONE THING THAT I THINK WOULD PROBABLY GO A LONG
WAY TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PRAGUE, JUSTICE INTO
WAKEFULNESS WRIT LARGE IS IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BEGAN
CHARGING SOME OF THE HIERARCHY OF THE INSURRECTION, THE SUITS
OF THE INSURRECTION AS COMPARED TO THE BOOTS OF THE
INSURRECTION, THAT COMMAND STRUCTURE. BECAUSE WHAT
HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6 STAFF IS A FEDERAL PROBLEM AND IT NEEDS
A FEDERAL SOLUTION. AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE FED SEEMED
CONTENT TO LET THE STATES WHETHER IT'S NEW YORK OR
ARIZONA, WISCONSIN, GEORGIA, MICHIGAN, DO THE DIRTY WORK,
THE HARD WORK OF JUSTICE AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE FEDS
CONTINUE TO JUST SORT OF SIT BACK AS THEY DID UNTIL WE SAW
THE HOUSE JANUARY 6TH SELECT COMMITTEE BEGIN TO PROD DOJ AND
THE WAKEFULNESS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT START FLEXING ITS JUSTICE MUSCLE AND BEGIN
INDICTING SOME OF THESE FOLKS, INCLUDING THE ONES THAT ARE
PRESENTLY UNINDICTED CO-CONSPIRATORS IN DONALD
TRUMP'S FEDERAL PROSECUTION IN DC. >> SO MOLLY, WOOD DEMOCRATS,
WHAT IS THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN DO WITH THIS HAVING A BREAKTHROUGH
AND EXPLAIN TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THIS RIGHT-WING DRIVE
FOR VENGEANCE? THIS AIN'T OLD-SCHOOL POLITICS.
THIS IS DANGEROUS, RIGHT? AND I THINK WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT BEFORE DONALD TRUMP IS AN AUTOCRAT. >> I MEAN, THAT'S JUST HE'S
RUNNING AS AN AUTOCRAT. HE DOES THESE THINGS WHICH ARE ANTI
DEMOCRACY LIKE PULLING DOWN THE COURTS TO RULE OF LAW, ALL THE
CONSTITUTION, THE NORMS THAT WE HAVE LIVE BY IN THIS
CONSTITUTIONAL DEMOCRACY. AND I THINK I THINK THAT WHAT
DEMOCRATS HAVE TO DO AND BIDEN HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF THIS,
BUT HE JUST NEEDS TO BE OUT THERE MORE. AND THEN THE VICE
PRESIDENT, WHO IS REALLY AN EFFECTIVE MESSENGER. SHE NEEDS
TO BE OUT THERE TO AND THEY BOTH NEED TO BE OUT THERE AND
THEY NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT THESE ARE THE NORMS AND IT'S THESE
NORMS GO AWAY. WE WILL NO LONGER BE THE COUNTRY THAT WE
ARE ALL LIFETIMES OF LEFT. THAT WILL BE SOMETHING CLOSER
TO HUNGARY OR RUSSIA OR TURKEY. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT WILL
EVENTUALLY BE. AND SO I THINK THE STATES THEY NEED STAKES NOT
ODDS. >> WHEN I GOT ALL RIGHT, GLENN,
I SAY THIS QUESTION UNTIL THE END BECAUSE I KNOW THIS STORY.
HAS YOU READY TO BUST OUT YOUR BLACK BELT AND START KICKING TODAY? THE GEORGIA COURT OF
APPEALS BASICALLY FROZE THE FULTON COUNTY ELECTION
INTERFERENCE CASE, AT LEAST FOR NOW. WHY WAS THIS HAPPENING?
WHAT DOES IT MEAN? >> YEAH, BUT FOR THE NEW YORK
RESULT, JUSTICE SEEMS TO BE GOING NOWHERE FAST. AND I THINK
GEORGIA IS NOW PROVING THE POINT. LISTEN, PELLET
LITIGATION CAN BE A VERY SLOW PLODDING, YOU KNOW, ORDEAL.
AND THE GEORGIA APPEALS COURT JUST PROVED IT BY NOT ONLY
SETTING THE ARGUMENT IN THE APPEAL OF THE DISQUALIFICATION
OF DISTRICT ATTORNEY FANI WILLIS ISSUE, WHICH WAS
REJECTED BY JUDGE MCAFEE AND TRUMP AND COMPANY APPEAL THAT
THEY SAID THAT OFFER OCTOBER. BUT THEY HAVE ALSO SORT OF PUT
A STAY IN PLACE. SO NOW JUDGE MCAFEE CAN DO NOTHING BUT JUST
KIND OF TREAD JUSTICE WATER UNTIL THE GEORGIA APPEALS COURT
FINALLY RESOLVES THE THE APPEAL. SO, LOOK, THERE IS NO
HOPE NOW OF ANYTHING HAPPENING IN GEORGIA BEFORE THE NOVEMBER
ELECTION. OF COURSE, THERE'S STILL A SLIM CHANCE. WE MIGHT
SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN IN DC IF THE SUPREME COURT DANES TO
DECIDE THE ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY ISSUE AND RETURNED TO JUDGE
CHUTKAN TO PUT IT BACK ON THE TRIAL TRACK. AND OF COURSE,
DOWN IN A FLORIDA JUDGE CANNON HAS MADE SURE THAT THAT CASE
WILL MAKE 0 PROGRESS. >> SHALL MEAN, THE IRONY IS
RIGHT NOW AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO JUST SEE YOUR FACE
THE SECOND OR SAW THAT WE PROMOTED YOU AND THEY'RE GOING
TO I'M MAD AT HIM. I WANT TO HEAR FROM SOUNDBITE. THEY MAY
HAVE HEARD ON SOME DAY THAT WAS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT. ANY IRONY
IS THAT'S WHAT THIS BOOK IS ABOUT. ABSOLUTE NO ONE'S
ACTUALLY TAKING THE TIME TO THINK. >> AND LISTEN AND LEARN.
THAT'S RIGHT. MEAN YOU'RE ANY CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW, A LOT
OF TIME BECAUSE YOU CAN COME ALL WANTED THESE PLATFORMS.
AND IF YOU'RE IF YOU DID TO ME OBJECTIVES, YOU NAME ME KNEW
WAS THAT YOU NEEDED TO BE CRITICAL. YOU KNOW, OF BOTH
PARTIES. YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT WING, THE RIGHT MEDIA
WILL TAKE WHAT THEY WANT, THE PUSH THEIR NARRATIVE AND
THE LEFT IS JUST NOT GOOD AT THAT. SO THE LEFT LANES THAT
RESPONDING TO THE RIGHTS NARRATIVE AND THEN THE LEFT AND
UP, YOU KNOW, EATING THEIR EATING EATING EITHER THEIR OWN
ARE ATTACKING PEOPLE WHO AREN'T NECESSARILY AGAINST THEM.
I'M JUST HAVING A NEW WAS CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
BOTH PARTIES. >> BUT IT IS A SMALL TALK AND
HOW WE'RE LYING TO OURSELVES. HOW WE CONVINCE OURSELVES.
WE'RE COMMUNICATING ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I LIKE THIS. I LIKE
THAT. BUT WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY >> GETTING REAL. THAT'S WHY THE
TITLE OF THE BOOK AND GET ON IT. AND I LIKE BECAUSE I'M I'M
D*** PEOPLE NOT TO BE HONEST WITH THEMSELVES BUT TO, YOU
KNOW, STOP LYING TO THEMSELVES AND STOP VOLUNTEERING. A LOT OF
OTHER PEOPLE STOPPED LYING LIKE YOU'RE OPEN MIND, STOPPING
LYING LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A NUANCED CONVERSATIONS.
TIMELINE LIKE YOUR OBJECTIVES, TIMELINE LIKE YOU CAN, YOU
KNOW, PUT YOURSELF IN OTHER PEOPLE'S SHOES BECAUSE YOU HAVE
YOUR OPINION. YOU HAVE YOUR FEELING, YOU HAVE YOUR
NARRATIVE AND YOU'RE STICKING TO THAT AND YOU REFUSE TO BE
MOVED BY ANYBODY. >> NO, THE BOOK IS A LOT ABOUT
HEART. BUT THE HEART THAT YOU WRITE ABOUT ISN'T SOFT ARE
WARM. IT'S RAW. IT'S REAL AND IT SOMETIMES CAN BE PERCEIVED
AS RUDE. >> WHAT MOM ALWAYS TOLD ME THAT
WAS USED TO TELL ME AND LET ME AND MY DAD DON'T KNOW HOW TO
TALK TO PEOPLE, SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING I'VE BEEN,
YOU KNOW, TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, MASSIVE COMMUNICATOR WHO CAN
TALK TO PEOPLE. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, MY DAD TOLD ME THAT
THE FACT THAT WE KNOW 2, 2, POINTS IN A STRAIGHT LINE
AND SEE, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN WHEN I TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BE
A REAL BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO BE REAL. WHAT OTHER PEOPLE WRITE,
WHAT YOU CAN LOOK AT SOMEBODY OATS AND TELL THEM WHAT THEY'RE
DOING WRONG. WHAT THEY'RE WEARING IS WACKO, HOW THEY LOOK
IS WET. BUT CAN YOU LOOK AT THE MAYOR AND DO THAT TO YOURSELF?
THAT IS VERY HARD FOR SOME PEOPLE TO DO TO HAVE THOSE
HARDENED COUPLE CONVERSATION WITH THEMSELVES. THAT'S VERY
HARD TO DO. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I YOU KNOW, I
USE MUCH OVER THE NEWS FOR THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY. >> IN THE BOOK YOU LOOK AT HOW
POLITICIANS AND LAWMAKERS COMMUNICATE IN THIS IN
AUTHENTIC WAY AND YOU DON'T LIKE IT RIGHT NOW. LET YOU HOLD
DONALD TRUMP TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD. HE SAID EXCEPT DONALD
TRUMP. THIS GUY KNOWS HOW TO GET RIGHT TO THE HEART OF
THINGS AND SPEAK TO PEOPLE. BUT HERE'S MY ISSUE WITH THAT.
AND HE MIGHT KEEP IT REAL AND HIS DELIVERY. BUT IT'S ALL
HUSTLE IS THE MAJORITY WORDS THAT HE'S SAYING. >> I'M ALSO SLIGHTLY, YOU KNOW,
THAT APP IS CALLED THE LANGUAGE OF POLITICS. IS THAT WHAT YOU
SAID IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. BUT WHAT I ALWAYS SAY THAT
REPUBLICANS THE MOST SINCERE ABOUT THEIR LIES, THAT
DEMOCRATS ARE ABOUT THE TRUTH. SO REPUBLICAN THAT, YOU KNOW,
LIKE THE GUY LIKE DONALD TRUMP BALL, YOU KNOW, FOLKS LIKE
MARJORIE TAYLOR, GREENE WILL SIT RIGHT THERE. LOOK YOU IN
THE EYE. I CAN TELL YOU BOLD FACE LIE, BUT IT'S SOUND ON IS
WITH ME. WHILE DEMOCRATS, SOME DEMOCRATS COULD BE
STANDING ON TRUTH AND THEY SOUND VERY SHAKY IN THEIR
DELIVERY. DON'T SOUND CONFIDENT ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE
TELLING. YOU NEED THE REPUBLICANS, THE CONSERVATIVE,
THE SOUND VERY CONFIDENT ABOUT THE MESSAGE, YOU KNOW THAT THAT
THEY'RE DELIVER. >> SO WHY GIVEN THE PLATFORM,
WHY WHAT DOES ONE NEED TO DO TO ADDRESS THAT? WHAT'S YOUR
ADVICE FOR ME? RIGHT? SO WHEN DONALD TRUMP ISN'T A LINE LINE
AND SO'S MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE AND WE'RE LIFTING THEM. >> BY GIVING THEM THIS
ATTENTION, ARE WE MAKING THE STATE WOULD NOT THINK WE'RE
LIFTING THEM? YOU CAN'T IGNORE THEM. I MEAN, ONE GUY WAS THE
FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND, YOU
KNOW, THE OTHER ONE OF THE THE CONGRESSWOMAN. SO YOU CAN'T
IGNORE WHAT I WOULD TELL FOLKS WHAT I HAVE TOLD A LOT OF
PEOPLE ON THE LEFT AND GO ON THOSE CONSERVATIVE PLATFORMS,
GOING THOSE CONSERVATIVE PLATFORMS AND ACTUALLY HAVE
CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM LIKE EVEN FOR THEM TO TAKE YOU OUT
OF CONTEXT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, THE
NETWORK TO CONTINUE INTO CONTEXT AND, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT
THEY WANT, WHICH WHICH WITH YOUR LANGUAGE, WELL, YOU KNOW
YOUR RHETORIC, BUT IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY THERE AND THEIR
AUDIENCE IS WATCHING, YOU IS VERY HARD TO BE TAKEN OUT OF
CONTEXT OF PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA USED TO GO ON FOX NEWS,
RIGHT? LIKE YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE LIKE GAVIN NEWSOM GOAL ON, YOU
KNOW, FOX NEWS AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE
LOOKING AT THEM IN DIFFERENT WAYS BY GAVIN NEWSOM PROFILE
ROLES CONSIDER WE'VE BEEN WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT HIM WITH
MORE PEOPLE ARE JUST SOME OF HIS BEST WORK. THAT'S WHAT I'M
SAYING, SIR. WHY RUN FROM IT? IF YOU'RE AFRAID AND THEY WANT
TO TAKE YOU OUT OF CONTEXT, WHY NOT GO THERE AND HAVE THE
CONVERSATION WHILE WE'RE ARE WE RUNNING FROM A WHOLE OTHER SIDE
OF AMERICA? >> YOU DON'T SUPPORT PEOPLE
GETTING CANCELED. BUT WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE? >> IT DEPENDS LIKE I'M NOT.
I'M NOT GOT SO A LOT OF CANS OF BUD AND SORRY. YOUR NAME IS
CHARLENE. I'M NOT I'M NOT THE GUY. RIGHT? AND THEN HE'S LIKE
I'M NOT CASTLE CANCELING A SUBJECTIVE CONTINUAR. YOU KNOW,
THE OWNER OF THE NETWORK ARE IF YOU'RE A FAN OF SOMEBODY AND
YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING THAT THEY DID, YOU CAN CANCEL AND
YOU CAN UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THEM TO STOP LISTENING TO THE
PROGRAM, JUST WATCHING THE TEAM. SO STOP BY TO ME. YOU CAN
DO IT. BUT I MEAN, JUST AS FAR AS THIS WHOLE SOCIAL MEDIA ERA
WHERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, PUTTING EVERYBODY TO THE COURT OF
PUBLIC OPINION. AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE THE JUDGE, JURY AND
EXECUTIONER LIKE WHO ARE WE AND EVERYBODY NEEDS TO FIT AN EXACT
CATEGORY. WHY? WHO ARE WE? AND I WANT TO GO BACK TO MY
SAID ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TRUMP IN THE LANGUAGE OF POLITICS IS
POLITICS THAT HE'S MADE IT TO WHERE POLITICIANS CAN BE HONEST
IF THEY CHOOSE TO BE HERE NOW POLITICIAN HE WAS. >> WHAT WE CAN SAY HE IS A
VOLATILE NOW WHEN HE IS A POLITICIAN. NOW WITH THE
EXECUTIVE HE WAS THE EXECUTIVE PRODUCER HAS MANDY. THE THEME
OF THIS IS A REALITY SHOW STAR. >> SO SOMEBODY LIKE THAT GETS
IN THE POLITICS, OF COURSE, THEY'RE GOING TO COMMUNICATE
BETTER THAN THE POLITICIANS GOING POP. THIS IS SITTING
THERE WITH THEIR NOTES AND YOU'VE INTERVIEWED A BUNCH OF
THEM. YOU HAVE TO A QUESTION THEY GO STICK TO THE SCRIPT,
BUT ASKING THAT SAME QUESTION AGAIN AFTER THEY GOT READY TO
TALKING POINTS. NOW, YOU'VE GOT TO BE HONEST, NOT A GOT TO BE
REAL. HE'S NOT REALLY WITH NO TALKING POINTS. SO YOU SAW WHEN
CONGRESSWOMAN DEMOCRAT THAT LAST WEEK FROM MARJORIE TAYLOR,
GREENE DIDN'T LAWN BAD AND BUILD BACK. AND YOU KNOW, YEAH,
THAT WAS A BEAUTIFUL MOMENT BECAUSE FINALLY, SOMEBODY WAS
LIKE YO, I'M NOT NORMALIZE AND NONE THAT IS BS THAT IS COMING
FROM FROM YOU ALL. NOW I WANT TO CHECK YOUR ON THE BS THAT
JOB KEEPS SPEWING BECAUSE IF YOU LEAVE AN UNCHECKED, THEN IT
STARTS TO LOOK. IT STARTS TO GET NORMALIZED IN OUR SOCIETY. >> I WANT TO ASK YOU SOMETHING
A LITTLE PERSONAL. YOU GREW UP IN WORLD, SOUTH CAROLINA.
MOST POINT. WHAT WHAT WHAT ARE YOU HAD ALONG ATTENTION SPAN
BECAUSE YOU'RE UP IN A TIME WHERE YOU'RE SPENDING A LOT OF
TIME OUTDOORS WHERE YOUR INTERNAL CLOCK WAS THE SUNRISE
AND THE SUNSET RIGHT SIDE, FAST FORWARD, 30 YEARS. AND YOU
ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF NEW YORK CITY. YOU HAVE IN SOME
INSTANCES DEBILITATING ANXIETY. AND YOUR ADVICE FOR PEOPLE IS
TO UNPLUG TO GET OUT THERE IN NATURE TO LITERALLY. >> GROUND YOURSELF IN THE DIRT
AND HOW THE TREE. YEAH, I WOULD LEFT IN THE MORNING 1978.
SO YOU NOW WITH MORE ON BEFORE A LOT OF THIS TECHNOLOGY, WE
CAME UP IN THE AIR TECHNOLOGY. SO I HAVE BOTH, YOU KNOW, BOTH
POINTS OF REFERENCE TO KNOW HOW WHEN YOU'RE DISCONNECTED FROM
SOMETHING OUT, GOOD, HE CAN BE. AND YOU KNOW, NOW AT 45.
BUT TO BE 46 YEARS OF AGE, I STILL STILL THAT, YOU KNOW,
KID GROWING UP ON A DIRT ROAD IN MOSCOW, IN SOUTH CAROLINA,
LIKE TO WALK AROUND BAREFOOT, YOU KNOW, IN MY YARD. AND I
LIKE TO DO GROUNDING, YOU KNOW, I GO INTO PANIC, CALL IT FAR AS
BEING I LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, PUT MY BACK UP AGAINST A TREE
AND JUST GET OUT THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST JUST MEDITATE ON
GOLDEN, THAT BUILDUP GO UP THE TREES AND PUT MY HANDS ON THEM.
BUT THAT'S IN THE BOOK TO HAVE A CHAPTER CALLED, YOU KNOW,
TREE ON THE BLOCK, YOU KNOW, JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW A LOT OF
BEING CONNECTED WHEN THEY CHOSE TO, YOU KNOW, REDUCE ANXIETY,
REDUCES STRESS IF YOU NEIL WOULD LIKE ABOUT A DEPRESSION
THAT SOMETIMES GO OUTSIDE, GO IN THE OCEAN, YOU KNOW, SAY
A PRAYER LOOK RIGHT UP TO THE SIDE. WE DON'T LOOK UP WITH
ENOUGH, STEPHANIE, THAT THE OTHER THINGS. I WAS JUST A I
CAN TELL YOU THAT EARLIER, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT SIREN IN
TRAINING, WHY DON'T JUST LOOK UP. LOOK AT THAT. LOOKING TO
LOOK AT THE TRICKY. HE'S LOOK AT IT. DO YOU THINK ABOUT IN
THE WORLD? WE WERE ALWAYS LOOKING DOWN AT OUR HOMES AND I
THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE TO POP MUSIC, KEEP YOUR HEAD
ABOUT. THINK ABOUT SONGS, LIKE BE OPTIMISTIC FROM SOUTH
OF BLACKNESS. WE NO LONGER YOU KEEP YOUR HEAD TO THE SKY.
YOU KNOW, THINGS WILL BE OK, IT'S LIKE WHEN IT GOT TO ME
SOMETHING TO WHERE THEY'RE KEEPING US CONSTANTLY LOOKING
DOWN BY. WHY DON'T WE INTENTIONALLY LOOKING UP
ENOUGH? THERE'S ALL OF THE DEVICES THAT ARE MAKING US LOOK
NOW. WE HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL TO ALL ABOUT LOOKING UP
