TRYING TO FIND A REASON TO INDICT PRESIDENT BIDEN. IF TRUMP RETURNS TO POWER, THEY WILL NOT NEED A REASON. JOINING ME NOW IS MICHAEL COHEN WHO APPEARED AS A KEY WITNESS IN THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S FIRST TRIAL IN NEW YORK AND IS THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK, REVENGE. MICHAEL IS ALSO THE HOST OF THE PODCAST WITH MICHAEL COHEN AND POLITICAL BE DOWN. GOOD TO SEE YOU, MY FRIEND. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. YOU AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC FORU A LONG TIME AND IT RELATES TO YOU VERY SPECIFICALLY. AT ONE POINT, YOU HAVE BEEN IN OTIS BELL AND YOU ARE IMPRISONED, THERE. YOU WERE LET OUT? AND YOU WERE CALLED IN TO ADMINISTRATIVE --? >> I WAS CALLED IN IN ORDER TO SIGN WHAT IS CALLED THE FEDERAL LOCATION MONITORING AGREEMENT WHICH IS IN ORDER TO HAVE EITHER AN ANKLE MONITOR OR A TELEPHONE PLACED UPON ME. >> T DOSE THAT IS THIS? >> IT CONTAINS A SPECIFIC FEDERAL ID NUMBER IN THE TOP RIGHT-HAND CORNER. >> BUT THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU WERE BROUGHT TO SIGN BUT THIS IS, A SEPARATE DOCUMENT WHICH HAS SOMETHING THE OFFICIAL FI DOCUMENT DOES NOT HAVE. IT COMMITS YOU TO SAYING YOU WILL HAVE NO ENGAGEMENT OF ANY KIND WITH THE MEDIA INCLUDING PRINT, TV, FILM, BOOKS OR ANY OTHER FORM OF NEWS, NO POSTING ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND REQUIREMENT THAT YOU CAN MEDICATE WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY TO EXERCISE DISCRETION IN NOT POSTING ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE PURPOSE IS TO AVOID GLAMORIZING OR BRINGING PUBLICITY TO YOUR STATUS AS A SENTENCE SERVING A CUSTODIAL TURN IN YOUR COMMUNITY. THAT IS HIGHLY SPECIFIC TO YOU, MICHAEL COHEN. THIS IS NOT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SIGN. >> THE WHOLE DOCUMENT IS FOR ME AND I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY SIMILAR PARAGRAPHS AS IT RELATES TO COUNTERFEIT. MY REFUSAL TO SIGN THE COUNTERFEIT DOCUMENT RESULTED IN APPROXIMATELY ONE HOUR LATER, AFTER APPEARINGAT AT 500 PEARL STREET BEFORE TWO MEMBERS OF THE BUREAU PRISON, PART OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, I WAS THEN MET BY THREE MARSHALS WHO PROVIDED MY LAWYER WHO IS WITH ME, NONE OF THIS SEEMED TO MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL. AND I WAS REMANDED BACK TO PRISON FOR ANOTHER 15 DAYS OF SOLITARY CONFINEMENT. >> YOU DID NOT SIGN THIS, A THING THAT SAYS YOU WILL NOT COMMUNICATE AND I WANT TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THIS WAS ADJUDICATED IN COURT AND IN THE DECISION, THE JUDGE SAID THE COURT FINDS THAT THE RESPONDENT, THAT IS YOU, THE RESPONDENT -- I'M SORRY, THE RESPONDENT IS THE GOVERNMENT -- FOR RELEASE ON FURLOUGH AND RE BACK TO CUSTODY WAS RETALIATORY IN RESPONSE TO THE DESIRE TO EXERCISE HIS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO PUBLISH A BOOK CRITICAL OF THE PRESIDENT AND TO DISCUSS THE BOOK ON SOCIAL MEDIA. ACCORDINGLY, RESPONDENTS ARE HEREBY REJOINED FROM ANY CONTINUING FUTURE RETALIATION AGAINST MICHAEL COHEN FOR EXERCISING HIS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT SO YOU WERE VINDICATED? >> I WAS VINDICATED IN THE FACTI THAT I WAS RELEASED AFTER ANOTHER 15 DAYS OF SOLITARY CONFINEMENT15 MAKING IT 51 DAYS IN TOTAL. THAT TO ME IS AUTHENTICATION. THAT, TO ME, WAS -- I WAS THANKFUL FOR IT. I SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. THE VINDICATION IS TO PUT A STOP ONCE AND FOR ALL TO WHAT I KNOW WHAT DONALD TRUMP IS BEHIND. THERE IS NO WAY THAT EITHER OR A GUY NAMED PATRICK McFARLAND YOU WILL SEE IN THE REMAND ORDER, THERE IS NO WAY THESE THREE CONCOCTED THIS. THIS CAME RIGHT FROM THE TOP. AND THE ONLY WAY TO BE VINDICATED IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T USE THIS PROCESS ON PEOPLE LIKE YOU! ON OTHER PEOPLE WHO THEY DEEM TO BE CRITICS WHETHER IT IS MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, THE MEDIA, SUPREME COURT JUDGES OR DISTRICT PEOPLE. EVERYBODY! JURORS, WITNESSES, NO MATTER. ANYONE THAT DONALD TRUMP DEEMS TO BE A CRITIC, HE WILL BE ABLE TO USE THIS. I SAID IT AND WE DID THAT OVER A YEAR AGO -- THAT THIS IS A TEST RUN AND NOW HE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HE CAN GET AWAY WITH. AND HE HAS ADVANCED THIS AND HE HAS ALREADY DICTATED AND HE IS ALREADY PROJECTING WHAT HE INTENDS TO DO. I HAVE SAID IT 1 MILLION TIMES -- IF HE ENDS UP BECOMING PRESIDENT -- >> YOUR POINT IS THAT THEY HAVE A LIST, THEY SAY IT AND THEY GO ON TV AND SAY WE ARE GOING AFTER MEDIA, CRITICS, THE JANUARY 6th COMMITTEE SHOULD BE JAILED, ALVIN BRAGG SHOULD BE JAILED. WHAT IS THIS ABOUT? THIS IS NOT A COUNTRY WHERE YOU GO AROUND SAYING PEOPLE SHOULD BE JAILED LIKE THEY DID WITH HILLARY CLINTON, LOCK HER UP. >> WELL, IN MY OPINION -- THERE IS NO OPINION. THE DOCUMENTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. IT IS PLAIN AND SIMPLE. WHAT HE HAS DONE, HE INTENDS TO DO, AGAIN. AND HE IS TELLING YOU IN ADVANCE WHAT HE INTENDS TO DO. YOU ARE NOT SAFE. GUYS LIKE ELON MUSK, THEY THINK THEY ARE SAFE. NO. TRUMP WANTS TOTAL POWER OVER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA INCLUDING THE WEALTH. TH HE WILL DO EXACTLY WHAT MOHAMMED DID WHEN HE JAILED ALL OF HIS RELATIVES. DONALD WILL TAKE THEIR WEALTH, HE WILL TAKE THEIR POWER, HE WILL TAKE EVERYTHING. NO MEMBER OF CONGRESS IS SAVED, NO ONE IS SAFE BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE DOCUMENTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. WHY DO PEOPLE NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS HAPPENED TO ME AND IF IT HAPPENED TO ME, IT WILL HAPPEN TO YOU. >> BECAUSE YOU ARE FULL OF DONALD TRUMP SECRETS AND YOU ARE ACTUALLY ENDANGER. >> WHICH IS WHY THEY DO THIS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, HE WAS RIGHT FOR TRYING TO GET ME TO DO THIS. LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED AS A RESULT OF MY 20, 19 TESTIMONY BEFORE THE HOUSE COMMITTEE. THAT WAS ONE OF SEVEN. LOOK WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE NEW YORK ATTORNEY GENERAL CASE, THE CIVIL, $500 MILLION. LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY CASE , HE KNEW I WOULD BE AN ISSUE TO HIM SO WHAT DID HE DECIDE TO DO? LOCK THEM UP AND THAT IS EXACTLY -- >> THE MORE IMPORTANT THING THEN LOCKING YOU UP, IT WAS AN EFFORT TO SILENCE YOU. I UNDERSTAND. I BUT THAT IS THE GOAL, RIGHT? IF YOU LIKE A FEW PEOPLE UP, THE REST OF US >>> MICHAEL COHEN IS BACK WITH ME. AN INTERESTING POINT YOU MAKE, WE HAVE BRAND-NEW GRAPHICS AND THE STUDIO LOOKS REALLY NICE. WE ARE ALLOWED TO SAY ANYTHING. I CRITICIZE GOVERNMENTS ALL OVER THE WORLD INCLUDING HERE IN AMERICA WHICH IS WHAT WE DO AND WHAT WE ARE PROTECTED IN DOING BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT. YOU ARE MAKING THE CASE THAT ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF IS IN PERIL. WE COULD BE IN A SITUATION IF DONALD TRUMP IS PRESIDENT IN WHICH THE NEWS IS CENSORED, -- >> STATE-SPONSORED NEWS JUST LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE IN RUSSIA AND THEIR STATION WHICH IS CALLED PROPER AND MEANS TRUTH WHICH IS IRONIC, RIGHT? ALL OF THIS GOES AWAY UNDER A DONALD TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. WHY? BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING NEGATIVE BEING SAID ABOUT HIM. THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE THIS TELEVISION SHOW, THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER, ALL OF THAT GOES AWAY IF IN FACT THIS MAN INTO BECOMING PRESIDENT AND THE PART THAT I AM MOST OFFENDED BY OUR THOSE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND OTHERS WHO ARE SUPPORTING THIS TYPE OF CONDUCT, THIS RHETORIC, THIS BEHAVIOR BECAUSE THE ONLY REASON THAT THEY EVEN HAVE THE POSITIONS THAT THEY HAVE IS BECAUSE OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT. WHICH DONALD TRUMP DOES NOT BELIEVE IN AND HOW DO WE -- >> EXPLAINED TO ME. PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE FAITH IN THEIR OWN POWER TO GET ELECTED AND SAY THEIR CONSTITUENTS REPRESENT YOU WELL SO TELL ME WHAT THE CALCULUS IS. I AM GOING TO SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP EVEN THOUGH I THINK SOME OF THE STUFF HE SAYS IS OUTLANDISH AND SOMEWHAT CRAZY BECAUSE I WILL BE MORE EMPOWERED IF HE GETS REELECTED? >> ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WHETHER IT IS MARCO RUBIO, MARK JOHNSON, MARCO -- MARK MEADOWS HAVE ALL SAID DISPARAGING THINGS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP AT ONE POINT IN TIME. THEY BELIEVE THAT IF DONALD TRUMP WINS AND THEY ARE SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH HIM, THAT THEY WILL HAVE UNLIMITED POWER WHICH WOULD OF COURSE GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO HAVE UNLIMITED RESOURCES AND ASSETS. ONE MISTAKE THAT THEY ARE MAKING , DONALD TRUMP DOESN'T SHARE. IT IS ALL ABOUT HIM. NOT ABOUT HIS KIDS, NOT ABOUT HIS FAMILY, IT IS ALL ABOUT HIM SO THEY THINK THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HITCH THEMSELVES TO HIS WAGON IN HOPES THAT THEY ARE GOING TO ELEVATE THEMSELVES WHETHER IT IS IN POWER, THROUGH MONEY, THROUGH CONNECTIONS AND SO FORTH, IT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY. HE WILL NOT ALLOW THAT AND JUST LIKE VLADIMIR PUTIN, ONCE YOU START TO GET TOO BIG FOR YOUR OWN BRITCHES, PEOPLE WILL START FLYING OUT OF WINDOWS, THEY WILL END UP IN GULAGS. AS DONALD SAYS ALL THE TIME, SEND THEM TO GITMO, SEND THEM TO GUANTANAMO BAY. >> YOU TALK ABOUT MARK MEADOW BEING EXECUTED, AT SOME POINT, IT SOUNDS EXAGGERATED AND I DON'T WANT MY VIEWERS THINKING WE LOSE OUR HEADS OVER THESE THINGS. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HE COMES INTO POWER AND HE PUTS THESE LOYALISTS INTO OFFICE AND THEY START TO DO THESE THINGS? WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU? BECAUSE THEY TRIED EVERYTHING TO GET TO YOU AND YOU HAVE NOW BEEN A KEY WITNESS IN A CRIMINAL CONVICTION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER FOR A FORMER SITTING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT IF DONALD TRUMP WINS? YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT YOUR CANADIAN FAMILY MEMBERS? >> ABSOLUTELY AND FAMILY IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY THAT I WON'T DISCLOSE. HE HAS ALREADY SAID THAT HE INTENDS TO USE SEAL TEAM SIX TO START ROUNDING UP HIS POLITICAL LIMITING THESE -- POLITICAL ENEMIES. THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT I AM SOMEWHERE AT THE TOP OF THAT LIST. YOU ARE CERTAINLY ON THAT LIST, AS WELL. AS IS THE PRESIDENT OF MSNBC, HILLARY CLINTON, THE ENTIRE BIDEN FAMILY. THIS IS NOT A JOKE AND THE FACT THAT HE IS EVEN CONSIDERED TO BE THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE, ONE OF OUR TYPICAL -- TWO POLITICAL PARTIES, IT SHOULD BE SO OFFENSIVE TO EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTRY, A MAN WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN THE VERY FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION AND, BY THE WAY, ALL OF THESE FOLKS THAT THINK DONALD TRUMP IS THE KEY TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT, HE IS OUR SECOND AMENDMENT GUY, WHAT DO DICTATORS DO ON DAY NUMBER ONE WHEN THEY BECOME THE AUTOGRAPHED, THE FéHRER, THE SUPREME LEADER? YOU ROUND UP ALL OF THE WEAPONS BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT A MILITIA. YOU DON'T WANT CIVILIANS TO GET TOGETHER AND CREATE A MILITIA AGAINST YOU. THESE DO NOT HAVE FREE-FLOWING WEAPONS LIKE WE HAVE IN AMERICA. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE RICH FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN LINING UP BEHIND DONALD TRUMP. FIRST OF ALL, HE HAS GONE OUT AND BASICALLY SAID, YOU DONATE TO ME AND I GET ELECTED AND I WILL DEREGULATE AND YOU GUYS CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT. IT HAS BEEN A SHAKEDOWN BUT A LOT OF THEM INCLUDING THE FOUNDER OF A MAJOR FINANCIAL FIRM HAVE SAID THEY WANT TO SUPPORT HIM. YET, I GO BACK TO YOUR RUSSIAN EXAMPLE IN THE RICH FOLKS SUPPORTED PUTIN BECAUSE HE WOULD MAKE THEM RICHER AND TELL IT STOPPED. IT WAS A GREAT GRAVY CHAIN UNTIL IT STOPPED. >> WHEN IT STOPS, THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO MAKE IT STOP. EITHER INCARCERATION LIKE WHAT WE SAW WITH -- OR SOME OF THE OLIGARCHS. THINGS ARE SO BAD FOR THEM, THE GUYS ARE 28, 30, $40 BILLION AND IT IS NOT EASY BEING WORTH THAT SORT OF MONEY. AND SO THEY ALL DECIDED TO JUMP OUT OF WINDOWS. I MEAN, THE WHOLE THING IS PREPOSTEROUS. AMERICANS HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP IS A COPYCAT. HE WANTS TO BE. IT IS WHY HE IS SO ATTRACTED TO AUTOCRATS, TO VLADIMIR PUTIN, TO MOHAMMED, TO THE QUEUE -- KIM JONG UN AND HE WANTS TO CONVERT AMERICA, DESTROY OUR DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC AND TURN IT INTO AN AUTOCRACY FOR HIS BENEFIT. IT IS SO CRYSTAL CLEAR AND THE FACT THAT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, MANY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS HAVE SEEN THESE DOCUMENTS. I HAVE SPOKEN TO THEM ABOUT IT. IN FACT, FOUR YEARS AGO, AT KING JEFFRIES AND TED LIEU WROTE A LETTER TO THE IG ASKING FOR AN INVESTIGATION TO BE OPENED IN REGARDING THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL -- THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL REMAND OF THE UNITED STATES CITIZENS TO PRISON BECAUSE HE FAILED TO WAIVE THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. THIS IS SO APPARENT AND WHY EVEN THIS BIDEN ADMINISTRATION? Y MERRICK GARLAND? WHY THIS IS NOT RIGHT AND CENTER TO EXPOSE AND TO COUNTER NARRATIVE. WHAT DONALD IS SAYING EVERY SINGLE DAY WHICH IS WHY THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAS WEAPONIZED THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AGAINST HIM -- >> THESE DOCUMENTS ARE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS NOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. >> THESE ARE ALL UNDER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND THE WORST PART IS THAT HE IS TELLING EVERYONE WHAT HE INTENDS TO DO. WHAT HE INTENDS TO DO IS THIS AS A REPEAT. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. THAT WAS A LOT. YOU AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME AND PEOPLE SAY YOU ARE BLOWING IT OUT OF PROPORTION. EXHIBIT A, MICHAEL COHEN.
