Unboxing The Fysetc Spider - Best Klipper Board Yet?

[Music] okay so quick video for you guys today we're gonna be taking a look at the new controller board from physic this is the spyder and this is a brand new controller board that is now out and available and it's designed with the voron v2 in mind so before we even open the box uh first thing you're gonna notice this isn't a generic brown cardboard box this actually you know so it's like a motherboard box this looks like you know something you would see on a shelf in a store this is actually some some packaging uh fizzex spider fur voron design physique x waron so a little bit of backstory on how this board came to be fizzak was developing this board and they contacted the voron uh design development team before putting this board out and said hey we're making this board uh do you guys want to take a look at it you have any comments or whatever and the team well those on the team that knew where they were doing i am not one of those people i made some suggestions some critiques and gave some advice on what they should change what they should uh switch around on the board and this is the final outcome we did not know they were going to be doing this so that's kind of cool to see um but this was all on their own so the on the back of the box uh we have some links well you can type these in do some documentation there's a side and this is the spyder 446 that is the type of mcu on it version 1.0 and that is it so unfortunately my box got a little bit crushed during shipping but i've already opened this up and everything inside is okay so let's open it up and see what's inside so the first thing you're gonna notice is the actual packaging there's quite a bit of foam in here and everything came all nice and packaged up nice and tight nothing was loose and flopping around now again i've already opened this up so some things are already unpackaged let's take a look at what's included so uh you do have the choice of what stepper drivers come with it i went with the 2209s and i have eight of them now these are labeled as the s2209 v 3.1 uh these are physic boards and the chips do say tmc 2209 la germany so it does come with eight of the stepper of your choice you have the option of getting it without steppers if you already have them i also have the heatsinks we have a usbc cable now the controller board itself the mcu doesn't actually support usb 3.0 so this is usb 2.0 over usb c connection but i do like the usbc connection you don't have to worry about having it in the right orientation but this is only going to be running at usb 2.0 speeds so don't be trying to uh fast charge your phone with this but it's going to be running clippers so speeds aren't really an issue and lastly we have the controller board itself and i'll dive into this with more depth in a second here now what's not included is any sort of connectors so if you are doing a printer build uh and you don't already have connectors on hand you're gonna have to get some up so either gonna have to source a pre-made wire loom with connectors already on it or you're going to have to pick yourself a connector kit up and this is the board itself so as you can see it looks a little bit different than most control boards out there it has a ton of connectors and hookups and we'll go through and i'll touch onto the main ones so just for a quick comparison this is the physics spider and this is comparing it to the stock ender 3 board just so you can get a size comparison of the board itself so it's only a little bit wider but it is much longer [Music] there's no connectors on the back just some branding labeling callouts for what the pins are and one thing you can notice it looks very clean there's really not a lot of flux the board's nice and clean i don't see any bad solder joints or anything anywhere the quality of the board is higher than i'm used to seeing off aliexpress boards so i'm actually really impressed with this board just on appearances so we'll start off on this end work our way across so you're going to see this big bank of connectors here and what these connectors are for is for multiple hot ends and the bed so you have your power in and this board can take up to 28 volts although most of you are going to be running it at 24 volts you also have a bed in connector and a bed out connector and then we have three extruder connectors now depending on how your setup is you could run four extruders if you weren't running a heated bed or you could run four extruders and a heated bed controlled with a solid state relay using another available pin to control the ssr so theoretically you can run with four hot ends with this controller you can see here we have two replaceable 20 amp fuses and these are for your main power in and for your bed in to protect those circuits so in the event that you pop something hopefully it is the fuse and that is easily replaceable the top here we have this long bank of connectors here and this is for your step sticks this can take eight step sticks so they are labeled um x y is two zed but they are paired onto one stepper and then extruder zero to extruder 4. now in your software configuration you can go ahead and configure these however you like so on a voron v2 for example you would have your x and y would be your a b motor on a core xy setup you would have four of these as your z motors and then you would have an extruder motor and then you would have one free motor that you use for another extruder for example this is a good board too as well for any type of tool changing setup or any other sort of printer setup where you need eight motors or eight step sticks available coming down here we do have our sd card and right across from here is actually a breakout for the sd card so if you're running a setup that you want to have a sd card reader somewhere else you're running marlin for example you could have a sd card breakout connected here and then run the actual connector to say the front of your printer again we have our usb c connector and this is not usb 3.0 this is just a usb 2.0 connector and a usb-c package and then also this white connector here is also another usb connector so if you don't want to use the usb-c and you want to use a locking connector type you could break out a usb here as well we have a 5 volt rgb connector here so if you want to hook up a rgb led strip that's 5 volts you can use these pins here we have our expansion 1 expansion 2 ports this of course is for connecting a screen such as the mini one two eight six four above that right here this is a can bus connector so you can hook up can bus add-ons to this board directly without the need of a separate breakout board now down here we have our temperature sensors for the three hot ends and the bed so there are only a total of four temperature sensors on this bed if you need more than four you are going to need an additional board but as you can notice here the temperature sensors for the three hot ends they are three pin you do have the option of using a pt100 with this board so that is possible you don't need a separate breakout board or add-on board to use a pt-100 instead of your standard thermistor type like the beta 3950 that a lot of people use above that you have your end stops now these jumpers are already installed from the factory like this this is for sensorless homing so if you are going to be using traditional end stops you're going to have to remove these also this zn stop here has the option of plugging in your pl08 or pl05 type inductive probe directly to that there is a basically bat 85 diode already in this circuit on the board so you don't need to do any additional soldering or adding a bat 85 diode to your inductive probe you can just plug it directly into this board and it'll do the voltage drop for it to work correctly without shorting out your probe so that's a nice little feature that make the setup and installation much simpler across here we have our three cnc fans now these are for running some leds and you have the option of selecting either 12 or 24 volts for powering them with this little jumper here but also you can use these to control four more fans at either 12 or 24 volts so if you want to run your hot end fans for example at 24 volts but you have some nice quiet noctua fans for your electronics cooling and those are 12 volts you can run those 12 volt fans off here and these fans at the 24 volt and also don't forget any unused hot end circuits can be used to control a fan as well so you can really load this board up with controllable fans and these are all controllable these aren't just simple always on fan connectors now right smack dab in the middle of the board here you can see this little block of pins here it's labeled pi power and uart what this board has that i haven't seen any other controller board like this have is a built in five volt relay with enough amperage to power a raspberry pi so what that means is you can power your full-size raspberry pi 4 off of this controller board without needing a separate power supply or buck converter the board itself can do that and there's an available uart connection right next to it so you can plug your raspberry pi into here completely skipping the usb connection completely if you wish to do so so i hope you enjoyed this quick little first look at the physics spider board it will be a little bit of time before i actually get this installed and up and running in my machine this will actually be installed in my v 2.4 v2 26 it's in need of an upgrade i'm going to be redoing the wiring on it swapping out to a lgx based tool head instead of the old beta afterburner from a year and a half ago i'm still running now when it comes to doing a full review of this board later on the review will focus on the board itself and its functionality and its ability to deliver on its features i won't really be reviewing print quality with this board because let's face it it's a 32-bit board with tmc 2209's running clipper the actual print quality will guarantee to be pretty much the same as any other 32-bit board with tmc 2209's running clipper your slicer profile and the printer itself will have a much bigger impact on print quality than the type of 32-bit controller board you are running in your printer when you are running clipper however the fact that this board is so feature packed and it is a single board solution means that we have a very good potential winner on our hands here so i am much looking forward to installing this board testing it out and going forward i see great things coming from this board so to make sure you follow along with the progress with this board and my other projects make sure you are subscribed to the channel if you enjoyed the video today make sure you like that smash button if you want to help support the things i do and the content i create i do have the links in the description as well for that i hope you learned something new today and as always hope you have yourself a great day thank you [Music] do [Music] you

Channel: NERO 3D

Views: 34,287

Keywords: voron, voron design, v2, v2.4, v2.1, v24, v2.2, v2.0, vzero, v0, v1, serial, request, cereal, overview, intro, 3d, printer, 3d printer, corexy, core, xy, abs, enclosed, fysetc, spider, controller, board, fysect, fystec, spyder, fysetc spider, spider board, spider controller, klipper, marlin, design, kliper, rrf, printing, 3d priting, 3d printing

Id: WGGNzl2iudw

Length: 12min 27sec (747 seconds)

Published: Thu Apr 29 2021

Reddit Comments

[u/mmikse]

Also looking to start a Voron build, and I can't find enough info whether to go with a Spider or Octopus. If price was not an issue, which one would be the superior one in terms of reliability, quality, features, etc...

[u/varunpatel1988]

Has anyone used BTT 2209s on this board? I'm REALLY hoping they're compatible

[u/jae686]

If one is to start a voron build, would this board would be the way to go?

[u/runsleeprepeat]

Not required for the Voron Builds, but I built a remix friendly case for the Fysetc Spider plus Raspberry PI4:

https://www.prusaprinters.org/prints/79181-compact-fysetc-spider-and-rpi-4-case-and-120mm-fan

[u/iWorkAsIntended]

I just bought the 1.3 boards for two printersas I could get my hands on them. Looks like I could / should have gone with the spider though.

[u/IWantsToBelieve]

Call me stupid but what is Bed in? I know what Bed Out is obviously... But "in"?

[u/beep_dog]

This is fantastic!

[u/ExtruDR]

The product looks great, but the fact that they slapped the Voron logo on there without any approval is pretty shady.

The Voron team should be looking to get some sort of licensing fee for this sort of association/endorsement/collaboration with products. They certainly deserve some compensation for their efforts and I would be very happy to spend my money in support of that.

[u/ryanthetuner]

Ordered mine last week for my first 2.4 build! Can't wait to get it.