This seemed Gimmicky... Turns out I was right!

you ever wished you had an air conditioner for your computer as the self-proclaimed air conditioner computer guy today we're going to review just that an air conditioner designed for your computer we interrupt this video to bring you a special message from ifixit no we interrupt this interruption with this interruption that new stuff from my fixed head pushing graphics card but inventory sucks fix the inventory problems with ifixit whoa don't drop it can't fix that with ifixit just kidding yes you can wish you could take ifixit with you anywhere but your pockets aren't big enough introducing you more and the new menu take them with you anywhere so can i fix it for your loved ones or just get them for yourself [Applause] so i was i was contacted by a company called cooling style and they're known for making chillers in all sorts of different applications they make chillers for 3d engraver like laser engravers they make rack mounted chillers for servers a ton of different applications in fact in fact i'll put a link to the description or in the description down below to their company um although they did send this over it's not any sort of like a sponsored deal i just thought it was interesting and neat because as somebody that has hooked an air conditioner up to a computer quite a bit this is kind of unique in the sense that it uses the same type of heat exchanging process that you would use to you know cool down air only it's doing it to the fluid itself so it works in the same way as an air conditioner would like say in a car where all the air is running through coils and through a heat exchanger that's going to extract all the heat out of the air this is advertising that it can get your system down below 10c in one minute now i feel like first of all calling it an air conditioner is a little disingenuous there's some marketing on this that i'm not a fan of and the reason for that it's already scratched the reason for that is the fact that it's a chiller not an air conditioner you're not conditioning the air you're conditioning the fluid that's going to be flowing through it so let's go and open it up and take a look at it i also want to point out when it arrived it did it did come soaking wet and you can still see there's some fingerprints and where we were trying to clean it off the sides already got these like fine scratches and stuff in it the anodizing on here is not exactly the best i'm not explaining it it's a very industrial type product but if it's designed to be sitting on your desk obviously it needs to be um appropriate looking so on the inside you can see right here it's got a very similar reservoir that we would see for a computer um it's got a very what appears to be almost like a dc ddc pump we've got a thermal coupler right here so this is just going to measure the water temperature because it does have what they call self-driving i don't like that term i think that's just again another buzz term they're putting in their website in fact if you look at their website there is a ton of fluff and filler text in there that just has nothing to do with the product whatsoever it's it's actually pretty bad but anyway i digress it's another here or there this is the temperature probe here that's going to tell the controller inside what the temperature is of the fluid that way you can set it if you don't want it going max cool let's just say you want to set it to like i don't know 19c 18c 20c typical in a room that's uh about 28 c or so which is what the mid low 70s fahrenheit coolant would typically run under load somewhere around 23 to 27 c depending so you could set the coolant lower level lower than that and then what you're going to end up getting is obviously sub ambient cooling because if you go too far below subambient you're going to end up getting condensation a lot of condensation buildup which is actually why the tubing they provide for you which is very very stiff like it is probably the stiffest tubing i've ever seen it is quarter inch by the way so i would have preferred to see at least 3 8 inch on there for better flow but it does have this insulation wrap on there which will help contain drips and stuff to the ends of the tube so if it's on the pc side and dripping out of there that's bad keep that in mind i did actually get different softer vinyl to use probably instead of this stuff just because that's something that's stiff it's really hard to fit over the barbs moving on two 120 millimeter fans on the back right here on the heat exchanger which is essentially a radiator but for the freon that's going to be flowing through the compressor right here it's a little mini compressor um it is sitting on these rubber standoffs and then they shoved a whole bunch of like memory foam rubber stuff underneath it as well that's this is to stop vibration and then this looks like this is a filler bleed port right here whatever for the freon this is a rubber fitting right there that has to make quite the bend to come back through and then on the front right here this is a controller two intake fans on the top which are rgb i'd like to point out this is rgb so you can see on the top right there fill port to fill the fluid because this has a self-contained pump as well this doesn't need your pc or a closed loop pump in your system moving fluid it's gonna all happen on here brings cold air in through the top brings it through the heat exchanger exhausts hot air out the rear so before we move forward let me cont let me tell you about some of the ways that we're gonna move forward with this because i have a couple of objectives here i want to figure out one and this is the power supply right here for it obviously one does it work is it going to be able to take a cpu or a gpu it's up to 500 watts of thermal cooling capacity now there's a difference between thermal watts and power consumption watts by the way that's like the difference between actual package wattage and tdp when it comes to measuring component these fans appear to be very like if you look at the blade pitch they are 30 millimeter fans instead of 25 millimeter so my concern with this is how loud is it that's another point i want to look at here because on the website it says quiet 55 decibel design 55 is louder than any system i've built i just want to say that right now so if it's sitting there on your desk [Music] that's going to be pretty annoying you would never use that if you're live streaming or if you care about your your um and what's it gonna sound like is it a motor hum is there a squeak you know what what because compressors make clicking sounds and as they're going because they're compressing it's like a piston kind of a deal so what's that going to sound like and then my other major concern with this how much hot air is going to come out of the back of this because you already know your your your computer that is a massive heat load inside your your space or your room or your office or whatever it is which is why we had a crap ton of air pumped into our new office because of the amount of computer that we're putting in there so there's a thousands of watts of heat not just our body temperatures and the environment itself but all the computers and stuff when we start doing full testing and what not going into this testing season there's going to be a significant amount of heat that can build up in that room so if you're in a small 8 foot by 12 foot bedroom that you've turned into a gaming room or it's your bedroom that has your computer in it and stuff you've got a tv and all that sort of stuff one little ac vent supplying air into the room how much heat is coming out of this because i feel like if this is on your desk you're just going to be having the armpit under boob sweat time of your life if this is putting 500 watts worth of heat out the back and then the last thing is going to be could we just omit this entire design by having a portable ac unit like i showed cooling the entire space including the computer rather than taking the heat out of the component through water through the chiller out the back into your space causing an ambient temp increase we have to fill it with the plumbing into our test rig which is a 10900k i'd love to use a 12 900 i don't have a working 12900 right now that i can put a block on but 10 900k i'm curious we're going to start with just the aio we're going to see what the temperatures and stuff look like under load then we're going to hook this up with all the same settings it is overclocked just the cpu and then we're going to see what the temperatures are what the noise is like you got a little digital readout so you turn on and off settings plus and minus for temperature settings and then off you go in terms of the design though and the quality some of these are kind of loose like they don't see that for the power plugs that's not very comforting looking at the backs i forgot to show you power plug on off power switch and you're in the outlet which is kind of funny because the compression does nothing because it's so much bigger than the tube like it doesn't it will never compress and no it you don't compress down on the insulation that doesn't fit in there anyway so it's like you're just gonna have to thread that on and use a zip tie or something and it's very stiff to try and get on there to hope it doesn't leak because the compression does nothing so this is an intel 10th gen 10900k running full load right now instead of bench r23 at one point it's auto voltage but it's going like 1.45 volts on the vid for the most part um if we look at the clock speeds where are they at right there 5.2 gigahertz all core this is a pretty decent chip and uh you can see our package temps at 74 75 c and we're averaging high 60s low 70s and all the cores side note does that show you how terrible 12th gen is with temperatures because that's pretty significantly better than 12th gen even 11th gen's great 12 gens hashtag pray for 13th gen this is just using a phanteks 360 eio right now with the fans not even set to very high they're they're actually at a fairly low speed so you could the temperatures on this are perfectly fine in fact this might have been a better test for 12th gen because if you look at the package temp it is pulling 275 watts from the package so it's not any more efficient necessarily than 12th gen it's just better at dissipating the heat so i need to let this run now until it maxes out uh which is probably going to be about where it is now to be honest we'll let it go for like 10 more minutes see where max is out and then we will hook this guy up i'm just going to take the block off i'm going to put of course i have to put the js2 sense edition water block i almost hold it upside down the js2 edition water block this one's all scratched it has been through hell because we have been kicking this thing around the studio so much um but anyway it's got rgb in the inside rgb in the outside it's got this neat kind of a um forged carbon look to it it is faux forged carbon it's not real forged carbon or i'll be charging like 400 for it but anyway if you guys want one link is down below but yeah we'll be hooking this up to it and then we'll show you the filling process and i've not turned this on yet so this whole video could be derailed if it doesn't work which also makes it just as important of a video because then you saw that it didn't work but we don't know that yet we're assuming couple side notes one it comes with a type i plug at least our unit did so i don't know if you buy through their website and you put in there that your shipping address is north america if they have north american plugs or regional plugs ready to go or if they're just using type i because of the fact that it is coming from the asian market so i mean australia and new zealand also use type i i highly doubt this is coming from australia and new zealand considering the back has chinese writing all over it so fortunately this end is universal which also means it comes out of the box already set to 230 volts with this uh power supply that's in there fortunately it's switchable so i was able to switch it down to 115 watts by just using my little pick all right so we're pretty much done climbing here um package temp is staying right around the same the cores have risen to the mid 70s uh coldest core is core 9 at 70 and then the hottest core is core 4 at 70. you can't write this that is like the first time this system has like ever crashed i know anyway we got the temps that's what matters i'm not changing the settings i can't now it was the emf of my electric personality that did it all right we're plumbed up i used the um insulation they provided you can see here i just went with brass fittings holes air should hold water without leaking hopefully i'll just have paper towels handy in case there's a small drip there inlet to the block outlet on here actually it's just outlet outlet now obviously this tubing may not be long enough for your application their installation anyways because remember you still have to make it from here into your chassis but i just wanted to point out i'm also not doing a gpu in the loop because i just want to kind of keep this test as straightforward in one testing component as possible 500 watts should be enough to cool a gpu and a cpu but you saw the you know cpu is probably 120 130 watts worth of heat anyway so i'm going to power this on because we still have to fill the rad fill the tubing and fill the block so it's going to take multiple fillings i'm sure what happens if i just turn the power on it's immediately rgb and going just like i thought that's a lot of noise that can't be the entire oh god it's wet everywhere it's not ceiling on there it all stayed on the block see the js2 synth block also works as a perfect bowl to hold all your water okay i need to get a way to seal that i still advocate for water cooling okay i just advocate for using the right fittings okay it appears to be holding for now imagine that using thread tape on fittings that are actually designed to have thread tape so let's talk about the fittings real quick they should have provided quarter inch barbs designed for pc they're like three dollars retail actually more like six dollars i think retail every single computer component these days is g quarter thread and that's exactly what the threads are on you know the block and the radiators and the pumps and there's no reason why they couldn't have provided you two barbs ones that are shallow enough with o-rings to seal so you're not dealing with home depot fittings with graphite thread tape on there considering how much this costs we'll talk about that in a second gross undersight or maybe intentional i don't know from cooling style on that are we starting in f14 oh my god okay i mean it is set to max speed right now you can control it appears you can control it we are still dry up here there's no droppage okay i'm gonna turn this look how fast it's coming down so we need to keep an eye on that that's gone up two degrees so this is air coming out the top right there that's air coming out of the heat exchanger on the back and this is the fluid temp right here oh it's slowing down i'm wondering if because it's at max temperature right now like it's at room temp and we have it set to just probably whatever oh yeah set temp is 15c okay so as it's approaching 15c oh there's a nasty point in the rpm range of the pump and the compressor where it gets super noisy we can set it to 6c thick so the flow rate of the pump is the flow rate of the pump is 1.3 liters per minute dude look at the court times 14c let's run one right now see what it goes under load 48 51 50s high 40s low 50s oh you can tell it went under load oh yeah because look the temps rising because it's now under a heat load so it'll be interesting to see how well this thing can maintain under a constant load the whole table's vibrating the whole table is vibrating look at the voltage there's less voltage required though i'm testing this in the everyday use case scenario where someone's not going to necessarily go in and like voltage tune their whole system or they're not going to lock their voltage either at a certain volt normal most of the time they're going to set either an offset or leave it on auto so if somebody was just to plug this into their system put it into a cpu block leave it on auto what's going to happen well less voltage look at this we're also seeing about 20 watts almost 30 watts less on the package temp again that's because of the lower voltage okay 1.408 volts because it's colder as we've already talked about same package wattage it's dropped to mid 50s again a couple that one core is upper 50s so drop from 62 and upper 50s down to 56 because of the fact that the coolant temp dropped from 13.9 with our flawed test because we had the limiter set we didn't realize so 9.1 c when it's all out balls to the wall max cooling capacity it's this is where it's landing there's there's something that's important to keep in mind too if we look at the temperature on here 89.6 degrees fahrenheit that's pretty warm if we go back to celsius for everyone else 32 degrees celsius this room is big enough with a 10 ton air conditioning unit cooling it the room the temperature in this room is not being affected by this however in a small bedroom the temperature will be affected by this and as the temperature in the room goes up so will the temperature of the unit because the air coming in through here to cool the heat exchanger has heat higher heat capacity in it will excuse me heat already in the air because the air has been heated so there's less efficiency and then that will continue to rise and eventually it will find an equilibrium basically what we've done with this test because of the type of environment that we're in we have seen what is the max cooling capability of this unit if nothing else is affecting it like having the room temperature slowly increase i've already said as the room temperature increases by 1c so will the temperature of the water because that's it's a perfect linear ratio at that rate so if the room ends up being 32c whereas right now the room is 21c it's 11c hotter you can expect this to be potentially 20c water so you got to keep that in mind what i want to do now because we have it set to 6c which is the loudest mode because as you can hear it is very loud very warm air coming off the back we're going to go to auto now because whoops i think 11 or so c there is where it wants to go with auto and the reason why it's going to do that is it's going to find a period at which the noise isn't as intrusive looks like it shows 9.9 c for auto right now so it's slowing itself down [Music] i almost preferred it running full speed than hearing that wow see it wants 10.2 now and it's at 11.3 so it's got to speed up and the problem is it looks like it overshoots so if this is the set point it's going to be doing this the whole time it's going to be a sine wave there's no way you could have this on your desk and have it not be like totally just intrusive okay neat concept i like when companies are going this route of trying to try new things i'm not sure there's anyone here watching this video that agrees that the price of an rtx 3080 is worth this for the 20 or so c that we saw you know thermal difference and that's the early bird price i have no idea what the regular price is going to be i mean this company makes like i said server grade stuff they also make a backpack you can wear it's like a full cooling system for your body that's got to be battery powered who knows how long that could actually last but i'm sorry um cooling style it's it's a neat idea this is just never going on my desk

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Length: 20min 15sec (1215 seconds)

Published: Mon Sep 19 2022