THIS is why people have trust issues! Intel 14th Gen Review

well Intel's new 13th gen I mean 14th gen CPU has uh officially been unveiled and launched and we got to talk about uh or we get to talk about its performance stuff now we're a little late to this video normally this video would been up at 6:00 a.m. with the rest of the Embargo stuff but I had some additional testing I wanted to do because specifically some of the changes that they made to the power profiles and such with 14900 K versus 13900 KS um it's kind of interesting so anyway the point of today's video is kind of show you how our stuff sort of um matched up versus like the 7950 X non-3d they're very close to the price point of the 14900 k/4 13900 k um but it it's the numbers are new there's new [Music] numbers one of the funny things about doing the video a little bit later is the fact that some of the memes that make their way out are pretty hilarious actually so first and foremost I'm going to I'm going to give some of you some time Savers right now if if you were on a 13th gen CPU there is zero reason for you to consider a 14th gen period especially if you're considering an i7 for an i7 or an I9 for like an I9 there there is such little performance Improvement in this quote unquote New Generation that it makes no sense at all 12th gen and older might make sense 12th gen is Believe It or Not the first gen of the ecore P cor stuff um the IPC was great but well it was okay but not great um the jump from 12th to 13th was pretty big but 13 to 14 they're the same it's Raptor Lake it's the same CPU even though it's called 14th gen it's not really a 14th gen it's a 13th gen plus and Intel is not new to this they've they they did this with 4,000 series they did this with the 9,000 Series and the 8,000 series they just are notorious for remember the 14 nanometer plus plus plus plus plus plus plus plus they're doing it again I think this is just a hold over because of meteor Lake coming which we don't even know what we're going to be getting for desktop CPUs on that but anyway I digress rewinding backing up here did some benchmarks um some fairly straightforward benchmarks um pretty much free utilities that you guys could download and compare yourself I like to use benchmarks that are specific for um being free I think the only thing on here that might not be free is uh Time by extreme uh it's just a CPU test you can omit that one if you're if you don't have it anyway everything else that's on this list is free so you guys can download it yourself and compare how your CPU is comparing to these scores um we did our 14900 K test on our Falcon Northwest PC right here which we'll be doing a separate video on this is uh the first time we'll be taking a look at this Si's desktops um we've taken a look at like the frag box and the the super small sff PCS like that's what I did the expanse them build on um and I've taken a look at their laptops but I haven't taken a look at any of their custombuilt desktops and these are not off-the-shelf like cases these are cases designed inhouse um by by them so we'll be talking about that in a separate video but it's worth pointing out there are a few things to consider when it comes to Intel reviews many motherboard manufacturers like to just take Intel's power limit suggestions recommendations and just throw them out the window like Asus being a major culprit of that if you have an Asus motherboard let probably even 9th gen or newer and you were to go into your bios you would probably notice that your power profile setting or your just your overall power setting is set to Auto let bios optimize the problem with that is those are not taken into account Intel's limitations they are Asus limitations that Asus puts in in place to say let's push the CPUs as far as we can now considering all Intel uh kcq CPUs are unlocked I think the mindset there is hey let's just let people get more performance for their CPU the problem is it can make the CPU actually look worse than it is intended to when it comes to like power draw and thermals um and then boost tables kind of fluctuating all over the place based on what your cooler is capable of so I took the 14900 K the 13900 K and the 7950 X and basically ran well the 7950 X we just ran with PBO on through all the tests and that was it we didn't do a PBO off it's such a small hard to measure difference with AMD honestly it automatically goes right up to its limits um but for the Intel CPUs we did a setting which is actually their performance setting which is the 2533 WT package limit the 307 amp ICC Max limit 150 watt um limit that's actually 150 watt for the 13900 KS I don't have a KS so it's 125 watt for my CPU um and then we ran the extreme profile which Falcon Northwest has a profile saved on the motherboard so it's a falcon Northwest one where there's a 320 watt limit put in place not the Asus unlimit unlimited which would just go to up to like 400 watts to be honest honest or probably even Beyond uh depending on the what the Au settings are so I am running the Falcon Northwest profile and then I match that profile in the 13900 K non s to be the same 320 watt the same amp limits and all that um so that way you can kind of see obviously it's an unlock skew so if you have the cooler for it then you would want to push those limits if you want more performance now this is a 280 mm AIO in here so it is in my opinion a little on the small side to try and keep 300 20 watts plus cool now again remember intel was comparing it to the ks model which has the same 6 GHz um single core limit uh the remember that was 150 wat TDP versus 125 wat TDP for the 14900 K and the 13900 K so I just want to point that out there a true Apples to Apples comparison on these would probably be the ks unless they're coming out with a 14900 KS this is this is what I got and zxt build is a quick and easy way to get a new gaming computer build a gaming PC on your bu budget using the built-in configurator and see exactly how your favorite games will perform don't want to spec it yourself then choose from bl's preconfigured player PC systems designed to fit your needs and budget to see the full lineup and specs of the NZXT BL player series pre-built PCS follow the sponsored Link in the description below I found the 14900 K stock settings at 253 Watts was actually matching the 13900 K when I put it at the 320 watt limit so in terms of performance per watt that shows that the 14900 K is clearly doing a better job because what we're getting with the 14900 K is higher boost clocks of a on average 100 MHz to 200 MHz per core on all core overclock uh at the same watt so that means we're getting more performance per watt so that extra speed is really equating to about 5% more performance now here's the thing this is this is where the frustration comes from Intel's marketing and naming is the fact that it is for all intents and purposes not a 14th gen it is not a 14th gen this this to me has 4770k and 4790 90k Devil's Canyon written all over it again where it is the same process and the process has improved therefore they can push the clocks a little bit and be a little more conservative on the power limits and get more performance out of it and say oh it's a new generation it's not a new generation it's just not and so it's it's disingenuine to advertise it as such meteor lake is a new generation it is a new process everything about it is new this is not it really should just in my opinion should have been a 13950 k and a 13750 K but I feel like they just are avoiding 50 because AMD uses 50s so I don't realistically that would make more sense a 139 50k because it is about that much faster to be honest if we're looking at the naming convention there I think it's just wrong to call it a 14th gen hell you don't even have to update the BIOS in many of the motherboards to make a 14 900k work which shows you when it comes to the micro code and stuff on the CPU for all intents and purposes they're still viewed as 13th gen it's just I identifies itself as a 14th gen so the BIOS displays it as such um anyway moving on it's in it is still impressive on the scores we're able to get out of the 14900 K keeping it under its TJ Maxx so overclocked 320 Watts I was seeing 5.7 GHz all core with a 280 AIO keeping it just under 100 C that's a lot to ask of a 280 aiio okay that was with the side panel closed and all that by the way so 41102 in cinebench R23 what's impressive though is the single core performance obviously because single core is going up to 6 GHz it's going up to 6 GHz every single time we ask for single core stuff um 2311 on that c bench r24 is an interesting test the way it runs it it kind of instead of like R23 where it just pegs the CPU 100% utilized from beginning to end until the test is done it sort of it sort of like rapid fires the CPU rather than just pegging it and then it moves the cores around on on what like the Affinity on which cores are being hit the hardest and I think r24 would be a better type of test for finding overclock instabilities because of the way the core clocks go up and down and up and down and up and down because that up and down motion of the core clock fluctuating and the voltage fluctuating with it during line load or load line calibration U um it's calibration right yeah during load line calibration shows that if there's instability it's going to happen in those fluctuations when it comes to blender um these are samples per minute so obviously the higher the number the better when it comes to samples per minute they just not that far apart I mean to be honest the 13900 K 320 watt is basically the same as a 14900 K Intel limit so 253 watt so we're talking 70 watts of less power which equals a significant less amount of less Heat because the 13900 K or the 14900 k at 253 watt was running about 78c whereas the 13900 k at 320 watt was pulling 88 to 90c so better better performance per watt and because of that we're seeing uh a lower wattage to get the same performance better temperatures so times SP extreme CPU test um they're all fairly similar I mean it's just another test geekbench is just another one of those utilities that kind of runs a sampling of different types of instruction sets to see how the CPU handles it they do both a multi-core uh as well as a single core 7950 X um performed well but quite a bit behind on geekbench the 7950 X is in here because in terms of pricing it's like $30 away from the 14900 K realistically this CPU is these are these are not bad CPUs it's bad marketing behind it it's it's trickery in making I think buyers that maybe are not as experienced or versed in Intel's naming might think this is quote unquote a new generation but it's not it's honestly not and I just it it frustrates me when it it seems like it's just a marketing move I think people would have been just fine with Intel calling it a a 13950 k it would have at least been honest like I started to say they're good CPUs if you're coming from an old CPU like 4,000 series 6,000 8,000 9,000 even 10,000 or 10 gen like 10,000 CPUs 10 9900ks and such it's going to be a huge uplift in performance the IPC has gotten good the power draw has gotten really good even versus the 20 the 10 core 20 thread uh 10900 K was a hot one it was a hot mess I had one of those and it's going to be a huge uplift for anyone coming off of any older AMD CPU I think the problem is again the naming behind it you know I see a lot of memes of people talking about going from 13th gen to 14th gen that I don't that's that's' be a really dumb move there would be no point in doing that that even going from 12 to 12 to 14 would be kind of a lateral waste I mean you'll see an uplift in performance across the board but I don't know if you'll see enough uplift to justify the cost unless you get a really good sucker to buy your 12th gen for more than it's probably worth anyway I don't know what else to say other than the fact that it's it's a CPU that exists that has a name behind it and it's up to you as buyers to determine whether or not 14th gen is is worth it for you I think Intel has to drop the price on 13th gen at this point which to me would mean go buy a 13th gen I mean when it comes to Skunk Works I'm really toying with the idea of putting the 14900 K in there I know I'm I got a z9 790 board so I'm going to be putting a 13th or 14th gen in there I'm probably going to put 14th gen in there just because of the higher performance for watt so keeping the Watts down and keeping the performance up is definitely going to be a nice you know a nice to have but not a must have but I think for people looking at building bu or buying gaming PCs they're proba I mean depending on what your budget is these are almost $600 CPUs so yeah this is where you sign off down in the comments Below on if this is something that you're even excited about it it's funny because it really just feels like 13th gen launch part two honestly it it just it seems like more of the same and I and I know that that's got people just bored bored with the entire genre which is why I'm doing more PC builds moving forward and less of the discussion type stuff like this cuz I enjoy building PCS I I don't care if I'm building a a slow PC a budget PC a high-end ridiculous PC like SC Skunk Works I just like building PCS so the end of the day put whatever the hell you can afford in yours I don't know what else to say

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Length: 13min 46sec (826 seconds)

Published: Tue Oct 17 2023