This is my biggest failure yet...

what's up guys Jays $0.02 here in case you forgot who I am so if you saw in our last video we did a stupid experiment again with an air conditioner and I promised you guys we had something even stupider in store and we're gonna do that today using oh I don't know $5,000 worth of motherboard and CPU alone it's all goes horribly wrong these are imagination EVGA is proud to announce our latest z4 90 for the wind motherboard for the latest Intel 10th gen core processors all new features including a 14 phase digital vrm power design Wi-Fi 6 4k HDMI port 4 onboard graphics and dual switchable BIOS make the z4 90 for the win a full-featured motherboard for your next build to see the full list of specs follow the link in the description below before we can get into the experimental part of this I have to build it obviously and I chose this because I don't know I want to see if I how much better I can get from our previous score where we did ice water on this you could still you can see I've still got it somewhat insulated and blue paper towels around here the water blocks already installed which is nice because the water the the blocks will hold down the CPU there's no socket retention for the 31 75 X takes a lot of power on this motherboard as you can see so we have 2 1600 watt power supplies we're gonna need for this I want to say I think 5.0 maybe 5.1 is how far we got it we watched my video and I don't think I actually said in that video how fast we got it I was so I was so basking in the glory of punching Steve in his hair that we beat his course but anyway yeah so we're gonna be using the 31 75 X which is like a $3,000 CPU and then we're using the dominus board which is like $2,000 motherboard it's 28 core CPU J why don't you use AMD for any of this stuff well I'm gonna be honest with you here where I want to see if I can beat my 3dmark CPU score and we know that 3d mark is definitely very Intel biased in a sense that having more cores is not better when it comes to 3d mark having Intel and then pushing that as fast as it can go get you the best scores if we were just doing Cinebench which I'm gonna try and do on here - because you past 3dmark easily versus Cinebench which crashes way early and as a much difficult much more difficult instruction set for the cpu to run then I would be using like an AMD rig but sadly all of our hike or count thread Ripper stuff is being used fill system actually gets put to work every single day with his what 32 core CPU 64 threads and then I have a 24 core thread Ripper which we know would be which would not do as good as a 28 core Intel that's gonna be over 5 gigahertz but I said we did ice water in the last one today I am going to try and build a closed-loop dry ice system and I think it's going to fail miserably so we're gonna kind of do a test run right now we're gonna get it all set up this is probably gonna take a couple of days for us to do we wanna we have to build a reservoir I need to test whatever we build with water because if it hold water and a whole glycol so the reason why we're using glycol is it has a much better freezing point minus 50 Fahrenheit which is this many in Celsius that's like I'm a temperature probe here no you take if temperature in someone's but why the butt this is the armpit preferred before the butt all right so before I hook up any of the power cables and stuff I need to get my proof of concept to work on the loop this CPU is held down by the way whatever your cooling solution is so as soon as I loosen these up I've got to redo the thermal paste anyway but we're gonna be switching to a thermal paste right now that we know works really well on sub-zero thermal grizzly probably have been fine too I don't know where it's at house I feel looking for it but we're gonna be using kingpins concoction into it's just so weird to see something I'm working on says Intel Xeon because I never do Xeon stuff I'm not Linus he's like a Zeon fanboy it's what lost him scrap dad was the this season I was fighting against him yeah use the reason please I don't know I'm not sure what to do I just stick my finger in and like Phil is saying off-camera XOC or extreme overclocking just looks so janky it's like kingpin does it with style he's like I'm bored now let's make a closed-loop heleng2 system so it's funny because the only six dims that we have that match because this is a six channel this is my fitness you roll with stuff so what we doing this in style and if I really wanted to flex I would have 12 so we needed an equally ridiculous graphics card for this equally ridiculous setup so of course I went with the EVGA 1650 super it's just it's just extreme in the other direction alright so I'm making about the power in this up yet we need to build a reservoir now this is where Phil and I had been really going back and forth trying to figure out how we're gonna do this we were looking up the what's it called brittle ductile transition temperature that will tell you about what point this will turn brittle and break and you don't believe it or not that information is hard to find there's plenty of info telling you how hot it can go where it will melt and all that sort of stuff but very little information finding how cold it will go so we're really torn do I just use the metal tubing that I know will hold up did we just take a chance with this stuff in terms of the fluid I put it in the distilled water bottle hey J juice this is just straight up RV and marine antifreeze is glycol-based coolant and it's safe for the components of our loop we just don't know yet how cold the pump will run and we don't know like if the pipe will hold up to it or if any of the other plastics cuz this is a plastic block so we're gonna use this top though in a dual pump okay we prove that point it's heavy so why am I using two pumps cuz I only have this one pump top that's not like an all-in-one acrylic reservoir like this and that's why we were looking up the temperatures for acrylic because I was like well if I make this too cold this will shatter the best information we can find is about negative 10 C is all that we can really reliably go down to and 0 C is crazy that's that's 32 Fahrenheit that's not much colder than we've already gotten this we want to go much colder well let's don't feel how I don't have like enough of the same brand plug oh yeah I do there all right here whatever so I've got bits power alpha cool primo chill no pantex and singularity here's the dealio when you put dry ice into a liquid it doesn't matter what liquid it is the liquid is so hot compared to the natural state of dry ice that it immediately starts to do what looks like boiling and what it is it's the dry ice immediately turning back into a gas actually dry ice when it's I think in its natural state is actually just a gas when you put it in coolant it's or even just water just like how efficient water is at transferring heat it's also that efficient at like reducing or increasing whatever the relative temperature is if the object it's touching is more efficient and faster so when you put dry ice into a liquid it immediately starts what looks like it's boiling and that's the bubbles of the dry ice turning back into a gas and rising and then it's going into the atmosphere what I don't want to happen is to just be like ok here's a reservoir here's the water we're not using a radiator we're gonna be pumping the actual fluid the glycol mix through the loop putting a bunch of dry ice in there and having it bubble and percolate or whatever it's physically doing and then have those air bubbles picked up into the pump and circulated and have a bunch of aerated loop so I kind of came up with this our chamber of dry ice secrets Harry Potter reference I want take it apart to people to see what it is oh it just came out ok so this is just a drain vent grill right vent think you see this at the bottom of a shower or something it's a really cheap plastic one and then this is just a coupler for what 3 inch to 4 inch PVC pipe so what we were able to come up with so what this is allowed me to create is a doohickey that allows me to get the dry ice up off the surface of the floor of whatever the reservoir is we're gonna probably turn this into just a reservoir for that reason and then we can put the dry ice on that and it won't go all the way down but we can drill a hole in here and attach one of my fittings so that we're picking up the cold fluid from underneath it but then when we return and we have the you know that goes back to the reservoir it's gonna come in the top so we're forcing that water to flow and put in and mix we are not sealing this up obviously because it would then pressurize and we don't want that the same reason why you guys are all freaking out when you thought I was putting my lid back on my thermos when I had ln2 in it going hey Jay you're making an Ln two explosive device I wasn't doing that I was just I was just resting it on there I really got this stuck does it matter now for those people are probably yelling about condensation you probably never saw this in the back of the room because you weren't looking that far behind us we got these oh that's gonna be a problem let me clean up this table and then we'll turn on the pump and we'll see how this goes alright so as you can see we've got it now flowing I'm probably gonna have to increase the the level obviously but you can see actually this might need to be fine on its slowest speed if you guys were ever wonder how to get these old micro bubbles out of your system one yet to let run for a while but to if you put the pump to its slowest speed it'll get rid of the micro bubbles but first you should run high speed to move the big bubbles and then once you're sure you have no more sloshing and your radiator and stuff and then you have it the big bubbles out we have those micro bubbles if you slow the pumps down look how fast it's doing it out so what we'll be doing is we'll be putting the dry ice in there but then we're picking it up right here you can you see it through the plastic we're picking up right there under the dry ice underneath the grape so we're not picking up the sublimation all right well it's together it's not leaking didn't think it would but we can now get some dry ice in the morning and see if if my theory even works we know that 60 degrees fair Celsius on liquid temperature is too hot but they don't mention anything about too cold so we have no idea if the pumps will even go like the electronics if they start uh-oh if condensation starts building up on the pump side there's electronics in here so our pump could die some stuff we think we thought some things through but I have a bad feeling about this one I really do so I guess we just have to find out how it works starting now I woke up this morning and I went you know this might be the day I just i unnecessarily ruin very expensive hardware but we do it for your entertainment so do me a favor if you find this entertaining in any way whatsoever just hit like it doesn't hurt you any maybe it does I don't know what I'm gonna do first is I'm going to fire up the system I'm gonna see what a boots at I think last time we were done with the ice water and stuff I just turned it off so I think all those BIOS settings should still be in there that at least tell me where we were so I've also got our thermometer out here that way I know how what the actual temperature of the water is that it's getting feed from if that makes sense that's Fahrenheit I was like that's not right XM p0 50 so that's where he left off was 50 do the CP is currently at 50 or 43 see sitting here in the BIOS so what I need to do right now is I have to start controlling this temperature slightly okay let's see if that'll boots I was gonna put a tiny little piece in there it's like a science experiment NVRAM don't do this to me come on I didn't do anything except slow it down CPU code fine we're gonna clear CMOS it's like a witch's brew is it at you let's just even get into the into the OS Oh see it's getting some bubbles now this might not like this might fail miserably oh it's picking up boy oh there's just so much air in there right now it's not moving anything that's what I was most worried about that's what we were trying to stop from happening oh I know what's happening major flaw in our design eventually they get small enough till they fall through the grate so our idea of elevating it worked so I almost feel like what neat what neat what we need now is a we need a we need a baffle that's not really pretty awesome it proves that our idea was necessary to begin with the holes on that are just too big as you can see they and here's a small part right there so what happens is they eventually get small enough to where they fall through the grate and even the small bits are turning into gas and so what's happening is the pump just eventually picks up all that they got vapor lock to where air made it to the pump once a water pump sees air it stops moving anything because a water pump can't move air all right so here's what I came up with it's just a fan filter or a case filter actually for a fan that I just cut left its plastic frame on pressure fit it in there and we'll put this one above it so we're starting to get a little bit of like real light condensation on here I'm so worried about how wet that block is gonna get so one of the things we're dealing with this as it gets colder the pumps don't want to move the fluid anymore and we know that the glycol gets thicker as it gets colder through that they're too hyper there's two pumps at 100% right now yeah what is causing our flow reduction here so we might be completely done already without ever even getting to do anything because what I'm showing you right here is I'm putting this dry ice and I'm sure plenty of you chemists out there have already been back from the moment we said what we're gonna do you're like that's not gonna work and your your Reich is what's happening here oh yeah what's coagulating yeah the irony that it's doing it at a warmer temperature than the water no key could see it the guy called definitely froze so we chose the glycol we got because it said minus 50 but now we're thinking minus 50 Fahrenheit would be the ambient temperature they're assuming it could work in how about we try it this time with one that's not mostly water we fell for the marketing trick one we didn't read that it says bursts proof to minus 50 see and then we found out that this is actually not even designed to be run in an engine because it's mostly water this one at a 70/30 any freeze to water mix is good to minus 64 see so now in all seriousness if anyone was gonna do a loop but they won't Orange cooling in just go get something like this and then premix it with water to dilute it a little bit yeah cuz it's made for an engine with all sorts of different metals so the other problem right now is the thickness of this glycol mix it's I think it's too thick for these pumps this is turning into such a ridiculously unnecessary amount of work to defy pumps can't move this glycol I mean I already blew out the blockage right oh that's what with it - it tastes so bad oh sort of the shop towels is it like a chemical of shop towels all right so we went ahead and just added a little bit of water to it since we know that it said on the back the 3070 mix is minus 64 C freeze protection so so that really just shows you how much resistance just the thickness of a coolant can be so that's why you should never run out and run straight antifreeze like I've seen some people suggest and we talked about it in the past and I just thought two pumps would be enough to overcome that thickness of it maybe we can get something happening now we stopped I mean cut through the Windows updates so once again the second we hooked up the block we got a blockage I can blow through it but it takes a lot of energy so we want to open up the block now and see what's going on inside so this is what I suspect is causing me a problem here the fins go this way left and right this goes across it like that so the water is being forced down through it and that's being forced to come back through it and out and if you look at this that is really thin and not that clean right now either cuz probably of all the coagulated junk I'm gonna take this out because now we'll just have a nice big open area for it to flow through all right so with that jet plate gone it's actually flowing pretty nicely what's the temp that right now zero okay well we've now gone Sub Zero oh the block is starting to frost okay the loop is definitely getting cold doin 97 and that stop block that huh I wanted this to work so badly I mean look at that look at the blocks it's doing something or the the pumps the bottom of the ln2 pots and stuff are like that thick you get that metal then that cold it's that good at holding on to that temperature when heat supplied to it we know the piece metal that thin trying to do the same thing so I think we have extreme cold on one side of it an extreme heat on the other side of it and then what we're seeing is kind of the equilibrium of that instead of the cold winning this channel has been full of a lot of wow that was surprising that actually worked this is the first time we have just had a straight-up hardcore failure let's go ahead take it apart let's take a look at the block and see if the block even got that cold like that look at the temperature that we have the coolant at now what happens if I make it start flowing suddenly let's see look I've created a Sub Zero flowing loop so I'm happy about that this is exactly what the L and two pots and stuff do so what we think we might do for a second attempt at this next time is take off the base plate on here and use it as a template you go to a machine shop or something like that and then get them to make us this plate probably without the cooling things or anything in it but really thick that way what we can do is we can create a larger mass of metal to have a higher energy that it can hang on to in terms of negative temperatures just like this this pump has not been running in a while but it's it's still all frozen frozen cold so like we were saying we think what's happening as the base of this is just too thin and it's losing the fight between the hot and cold and it needs more energy stored which means thicker metal but if you guys have any suggestions or anything maybe that's super obvious that we're just missing to do me a favor comment down below how you think and only real scientist with like a science license should comment what you think we could do to make this successful or do you think quite honestly compared to direct contact L on to pot we are just wasting our time which is also quite possible but that's where we're gonna stop for today we got some very valuable lessons for education from from some failures today and I said we all this dry ice left I'll figure out something to do with it alright guys thanks for watching I will see you in the next failure

Channel: JayzTwoCents

Views: 585,808

Keywords: dry ice, dry ice pc, dry ice computer, custom cooling, cpu cooling, custom cpu cooling, watercooling, cooling with glycol, intel, intel 3175x, xeon, intel xeon, fail, failure, complete failure

Id: CsWuCz2Q_R8

Length: 20min 50sec (1250 seconds)

Published: Sat Jun 06 2020